When did baseball disappear from American pop culture?
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The average American probably couldn't name 5 active MLB players. I turned on the home run derby yesterday and didn't recognize anybody except for Stanton. What the hell happened?
>>69508839
Lots of big name players don't do the Derby because it's a pointless injury risk
>Why do people stop about a boring game that is only fun when you are drunk?
Too many spics
>>69508882
>I have pleb taste: the post
>>69508882
>average mlb game takes 3 hours
i don't think that shit stays fun for so long, even when you're drunk
>>69508870
it can mess up your swing mechanics as well
>>69508893
So you say that enjoying baseball is a niche thing?
I used to think that baseball was real big and you know...stadium filled with plebeians
>>69509025
It's not a niche thing at all, I don't know what the other guy is talking about. It's still the 2nd-most popular sport if you look at polls, attendance, and revenue, but it has no presence in popular culture whatsoever. Nobody talks about the games at work, nobody talks about which player is best, you don't see many players doing big endorsements...it's weird, because baseball had a strong presence in pop culture about a decade ago but now it's gone.
They finally realised it was a shit-tier sport.
>>69508920
Drunk AND high then?
It's really shit. Baseball is the only sport I can't bring myself to watch
Sport got expensive. Prominent tv coverage was scrapped. Internet came and took peoples attention elsewhere. Kids don't go outside to play anymore. Well, they do, but I mean really go outside like in the old days (e.g. The Sandlot).
>>69508839
Basketball-Americans happened.
>>69508839
The strike in 1994 basically killed the sport.
MOOOOOM WHY AREN'T THERE SWAG BLACK PLAYERS ON TV?
>>69509770
Baseball is fun to play, plenty still do
Watching that borefest is another matter
>>69509775
They're only like 10% of the population
Are ANY sports players superstars anymore? You might be able to say that some NBA players are, but around August or September there won't be any mention of them until the end of next year's season. What >>69509770 said is true, but it applies to every sport in the USA.
>>69508839
>didn't recognize anyone except for Stanton
That's because you're a casual faggot
>>69511788
>unknowingly giving weight to OPs argument
baseball is easily the worst sport out of our major 4
The only reason baseball stays relevant is because it runs unopposed from the end of the NHL/NBA finals to the start of NFL preseason.
>>69509674
>Nobody talks about the games at work
Completely depends upon where you live.
A lot of casuals know what's going on in the sport in the northeast.
>>69509775
Their population as a percentage of the total has declined significantly from the 1950s, when baseball was at its peak.
>>69510419
>Are ANY sports players superstars anymore?
Lebron, Kobe, Brady, Curry, arguably still Jeter
>people don't care about Autism: The Sport
It's a minor miracle that it was popular at all.
>>69508839
Because (((they))) hate baseball.
You're literally shamed if you like baseball. That's why that manlet Chris Rock made that video crying about how he didn't picked for the team in school and how it's raciss
>>69511808
Just because you don't like it or don't know anyone doesn't mean jack shit
I'm so sick of this generations faggot me me me self centered universe
OH I DONT LIKE THIS THING SO EVERYONE DOESNT
you fucking retards
Baseball was built for radio
It survived the TV
It survived the computer
It will coexist with the smartphone
Case and point, how many people are on their phones at games.
>>69511837
It's still extremely popular here (and in Japan, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, etc.). The attendance per game is right up there with the NFL and the Bundesliga, and the total annual attendance blows every other sports league in the world out of the water. But for some reason it's invisible in pop culture.
>>69510419
Tom Brady
>>69509961
why is that? I've heard this cited before.
I dislike baseball as well. It's simply boring desu.
>>69511837
>there's always one croatian in these hate on baseball threads
I don't typically accuse of samefagging but you're a faggot
>>69508839
lots of things, nothing overnight. The most significant was certainly the invention and popularization of the television in America
>>69511873
This is the first time i'm posting in a baseball thread, and I have my reasons to be butthurt about baseball. There is one Croatian kid that goes into all American threads and shits around like it's a street in India, maybe that's him.
>>69511864
Still that fucking packed? God damn it.
Maybe people ran out of ideas about it.
>>69511872
Baseball is built on >muh passion and >muh tradition in a way that no other sport in America is. It's very similar to how Europeans feel about soccer. So all the players going on strike for an entire year and the World Series being cancelled for the first time since 1904 seriously reduced interest in the game for many fans.
It also ended Michael Jordan's short baseball career. He promptly went back to basketball, helping to make the NBA an actual competitor to MLB instead of the NHL-tier league it was before.
Long time all around sports fan here, I've stopped watching practically everything else since I realized baseball is literally the perfect game.
Testament to how far your country has sunk that obesitycollide has taken over as your main sport. Baseball was life, baseball was war, baseball was every day and it was where real stories and real legends were made.
now you guys just get together with literally every single casual your gifted marketing talent has reached out to to watch three hours of commercials. seriously how can you even stand watching every one of your 16 (LMAO) games with your casual alcoholic sister.
Worry not ameribros, handegg will concussion itself out of existence in your lifetime and baseball will become the great American sport again
>>69511920
>and I have my reasons to be butthurt about baseball
Would you mind sharing? I'm not the guy you replied to, but I'm really curious about why a Croatian would have anything against baseball at all. Shouldn't it be completely irrelevant for you, the way that cricket and rugbee are for us?
Attention spans got smaller and so did sports requiring such spans.
Friendly reminder that the US' decline as a country almost marks for for dot the decline of baseball as the most popular sport here
there are too many games. 162 in just the regular season waters down interest significantly. It makes games far less interesting when they almost literally don't matter when there's going to be playoffs anyway. The world series is the only thing remotely interesting these days and even the NFL draft gets more viewers.
>>69508839
Would Liz be a fan of the Dodgers, the Giants, or the Yankees?
>>69511864
because your corporations are pretty invested in the NFL being THE american sport now
Maybe it's different in kids stories. I never played a game of baseball in my life but all the stories I read as a kid has them playing baseball (aside from those divine Canadian books they rammed down our throats at every opportunity)
>>69511938
Can you explain to me why in your view baseball is literally the perfect game?
Most of the household names of the 90s being exposed as roiders probably didn't help. I didn't follow baseball at all as a kid, but I still knew who McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, A-Rod were. We all know what happened next there.
Also gotta think baseball players are harder to market than football/basketball players. How often do you even see Trout or Harper on TV shilling for something? They're on offense for 1/9 of the airtime and only shown on defense when they're involved in the play. Any star pitcher only starts ~1/5 of the time. Meanwhile Brady and Newton and James and Curry are the most important guy on the TV for at least half the game. The overall shifts in media don't help the sport at all imo
>>69508839
Because literally only old white men care about boreball and guess what, old white men are dying by the second. People will throw around muh tv revenues but it doesn't matter because in 15 years with no new fans the sport is going to be dead.
Only fatherless cucks that had nobody to play catch with hate baseball
1. Baseball is slow as shit.
The prevalence of the internet and subsequently Myspace and Facebook have given people something to occupy their brain 24/7.
"There's nothing to do ALL DAY. let's pass 6 hours by watching basebore" is no longer a thing that's said.
2. Unwillingness to evolve.
Things are constantly changing. There is an awful amount of horse shit in pro sports. All of them. But the NFL is constantly changing rules to keep things evolving and fresh. Whether it be for player safety or to add excitement.
Basebore is still stuck in 1910.
M-muh tradition. M-muh history
3. Baseball highlights show exactly how pathetic the sport is. It's squirrels running around on the field. It's people stacking 50 cups in the stands and running around like fuckheads. It's people who broke their phone catching a foul ball. Literally nothing that has to do with the sport itself.
4. Baseball discussion shows exactly how pathetic the sport is. It's talking about how "beautiful" a fucking field is instead of actually talking about the sport. Because the sport is boring and irrelevant. It's the opposite of exciting or engaging for discussion. Discussion is right up the alley of old crusty morons who say "they just wanted it more" because that's the only thing they can make apply to basebore
5. No rivals. The Yankees and Red Sox are not rivals. They were rivals 100 years ago. See: m-muh history. There is no anger. There is no hate. Nothing pops off the screen. Only a moron would think they're "rivals" simply because E!SPN is telling you "b-buh they're rivals i swear!" If you took away the names of the teams there would be no indication of a rivalry to measure. Because there isn't one.
6. Devoid of personality. Bryce Harper literally has a fucking hairstyle and old crusty retards get butthurt. A guy flips a fucking bat and has the slightest of smirks on his face after a home run and he's "disrespectful" and pitchers decide to throw at his head.
Comment too long. Basebore is pathetic
>>69511922
MLB is twice as big as NBA. The NBA is 30% bigger than the NHL
>>69508839
>>69509025
Seriously this is what you get at a bball game of a major bball club.
>enter stadium before first pitch, everyone is out getting food, stadium is empty
>third inning, people are still coming in
>fourh inning, stadium mostly full, people are chatting about meaningless things, and occasionally clapping when something happens
>sixth inning people are leaving since home team is behind
>seventh inning, larger break, everyone goes out to eat, or home in case home team is behind
>two fans are making fun of opposing reliever worming up
>eight to nine inning, stadium almost completely empty and birds are circling in for the loot
>>69512082
I am /sp/'s puppet and treat shitposts as fact: the post
Your "no rivalry/hate" comment is probably the most retarded of all. Baseball has more brawls than any sport but hockey, and probably would have more than hockey if they were allowed like in hockey.
>>69511968
It's a long, painful and boring story.
I was a breddy gud player when I was a kid. Even got scouted once when I was 16.
Since we didn't have a minors league, and Croatian league is pretty shit, I played with senior players. And in that same season I fucked my knee up really bad when sliding into base. 14 months out bad.
Meanwhile the local team I played in got cucked and turned into a softball team only, and I didn't have luck into making it into any other team.
When I finally did, coach there was a huge dick, I rarely played, got injured again and gave up on it.
And every fucking time I see anything baseball related I remember how much fun I had playing as a kid, and that it was the only thing I was actually good at, how nothing ever came out of that, and how it might have been.
>>69512135
They're not really allowed in hockey. Moreso tolerated.
>>69512151
Damn, kinda amazed you played in Croatia at all. I guess the world is getting more pluralistic.
>>69512151
Sounds like a man who's bitter at his ex-girlfriend because she became better than him after the breakup
>>69512151
If it makes you feel any better, you probably never would have made it anyway. The only Europeans in the majors are Italians, Germans, or Brits with dual citizenship (usually with an American dad in the military).
>>69511859
u mad?
>>69512252
I was happy when Alessandro Liddi made it. I guess he's just a farmhand these days.
>>69511837
based croatia
not every baseball fan is an unathletic autistic nerd, but every unathletic autistic nerd loves baseball
just like drug dealers and pitbulls
It's not really a sport. It's more of a game.
Scripted 1v1 encounters and archaic gameplay dynamics are what doomed baseball. There's no creativity, improvisation or team chemistry required.
It's had a good run but just let it die.
>>69512151
Seems like kind of a silly thing to get mad about. Less than one tenth of one percent of the kids who play baseball ever even make it to the minors, let alone the majors. Even if you grew up playing in South Florida with access to the top-tier coaches and facilities, you still probably wouldn't have made it past the high school level.
>>69511938
>I never played football and have zero grasp of its intricacies
>a leaf
whatever you say bro. hockey is based though.
>>69512280
>not every baseball fan is an unathletic autistic nerd, but every unathletic autistic nerd loves baseball
>just like drug dealers and pitbulls
Nah, the majority of unathletic autistic nerds who like sports like basketball predominantly, in my experience. Just like drug dealers who own pit bulls.
>>69512338
whites go for baseball and minorities go for basketball
>>69512356
Not always. Cubans, Venezuelans, Dominicans, and Puerto Ricans all prefer baseball.
>>69512199
We've had baseball since 80's, american football since 2010. No one watches it tho, it's niche as fuck.
>>69512216
I know, manchildish of me, but can't fucking help it.
>>69512252
>>69512307
I know that, I wouldn't made it to America, but there are places in Europe like Germany or Netherlands where I could have made it.
>>69508839
I forget, what was the importance of the bird vs birdcage necklace choice at the beginning of Bioshock Infinity? Did it affect anything?
>>69512386
im cuban and puerto rican and i prefer american football or soccer. baseball isnt that popular among us unless you actually played it. its a dying sport as far as spectators go here
> The attendance per game is right up there with the NFL and the Bundesliga, and the total annual attendance blows every other sports league in the world out of the water.
A. Total numbers are so high because you have so many games. 162 games per year, 80 home games, so even 10k is enough to get total numbers really high
B. They lie about attendance. It looks good for the press and even for ticket sales, if you tout that you are 'sold out', or even so they pass the blackout. In fact they count season holders that don't come to matches, sponsorhip tickets that don't come to matches, and even regular sold tickets aren't sold. I mean it's the same as Maverics running sold out record, and then them playing in half empty stadium.
C. There is huge disparity in attendance and revenue, AAA farm teams of big franchises make more money than the quarter of MLB teams, and they're not exactly swimming in cash ether. About the bottom half of the MLB would straight out collapse if it wasn't for revenue sharing and tv rights.
>>69512003
Firstly, it's a sort of game-within-a-game, with the results of the timeless pitcher vs batter duel impacting different areas of the overall game, adding a unique dimension to the sport.
Second is the process of segmented scoring. In baseball, a player is isolated in turn and given the opportunity to score, or more likely, build up a better opportunity to score by first accomplishing a smaller (and ultimately, insignificant at the final accounting) objective. Thus in baseball, we can directly quantify the mini-goals a player might help his team with, along with being able to acutely judge the difference between players, as they are all required to perform in relatively the same situation.
Third is the relentless grinding nature of baseball. Anyone that doesn't want to be able to watch their team play practically every fucking day is a fucking casual, it's objectively the best schedule for a sports fan. It also makes baseball great because you get relatively massive sample sizes for stats, and players are not judged for having done some great bits of action on big nights but on consistently proving their precise skills over crazy amounts of games
I can go on for a while
>>69512452
>even so they pass the blackout
there is no blackout in MLB
The baseball federation should try to market their sport in cricketing nations.
>>69512082
>Devoid of personality. Bryce Harper literally has a fucking hairstyle and old crusty retards get butthurt. A guy flips a fucking bat and has the slightest of smirks on his face after a home run and he's "disrespectful" and pitchers decide to throw at his head.
this desu
>>69512495
When I was in India, I watched Cricket cause it was the next best thing. Also, at least Australia has active players in the major leagues.
>>69508839
>highest attendance
>really high salaries
seems to be doing ok
>>69512495
They tried. But then they were all like "fuck it" & did more shit in Japan.
>>69512580
>only watched by 60+ demographic
it's really not
>>69512580
>doing ok
>2014 NFL draft
>6.8 rating
>2013 MLB playoffs
>Highest rated game was game 6 of the world series
>5.5 rating
>Non-competitive football event outdraws a baseball championship game
>doing ok
>doing ok
>doing ok
this is why baseball is disappearing.
>>69508839
I like to think of baseball like turn based JRPGs. Still fun, just an older slower form of combat.
>>69512779
To be fair, every American sport is doing poorly compared to American football.
>>69512477
>I'm autistic
ah k got it now
>>69512580
Baseball is clearly thriving if you look at attendance and revenue. But tv ratings are pathetic compared to football and even basketball, and it's definitely fallen behind those two sports in terms of cultural relevance.
>>69512495
that's literally the dumbest idea i've ever heard
why would they try and market their bat and ball game in countries that already have an established bat and ball game? it has about as much chance of succeeding as cricket in America
>>69512428
>baseball isnt that popular among us unless you actually played it.
I guess we just had really different experiences then. I'm Cuban and everyone in my family cares about it more than other sports. Same goes for all the Cuban and Venezuelan kids I knew, everyone played and watched baseball.
It seems (from a filthy sudaca point of view) that the NBA gets a lot more exposure on movies and shit, next to the NFL and the MLB is next to nonexistant
>>69509674
It is not the second most popular sport.
>>69512954
Pajeet clearly hasn't had his morning shit yet, go easy on him m8
>>69512421
There's no real change, but it's kind of an inside joke/reference. Most people would associate the bird with freedom/goodness and the cage with imprisonment/evil on their first playthrough, but if you know how the whole story goes it's actually the opposite.
>>69512982
I was just basing it off of this poll
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2015/01/28/Research-and-Ratings/Harris-Poll.aspx
Football: 42%
Baseball: 16%
Basketball: 9%
It really shows how dominant football is, because they separate pro football from college football and college ball is almost the 2nd-most popular sport on its own.
>>69511853
baseball is the only sport (((they))) are good. If anything (((they))) love it
It's still popular, I don't know where the hell you all live. It's a more regionalized game than ever before (which is fucking crazy seeing how the average fan is exposed to way more games and clips nowadays). Everyone in the DMV area knows who Bryce Harper is. I'm sure everyone in the Northeast knows who Pedroia and David Ortiz are, and I'm sure even in dead-as-fuck Miami everyone knows who Giancarlo Stanton and Jose Fernandez is.I can't comment on knowing 5 players because I don't know what the average American remembers.
It's a fun summer thing to do go to the ballpark drink some reebs eat some peanuts and cracker jacks good time bring a gun though you could get shot
>>69512484
>srsly
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/faq_blackout.jsp
>>69508839
You're a pleb if you don't know Cano, Frazier, or Trumbo
>>69511980
>>69511980
>>69511980
>>69511980
Could not agree more.
>>69513293
ok, there IS a blackout, but its not based on attendance like in the NFL
>>69513338
>>69513293
>Americans being lectured on their own sport by a Slovakian
American education truly is a parody now
>>69511922
MJ was garbage at baseball
He was attended spring training and was on a minor team
>>69511980
This
>>69511980
>attention spans got smaller
Underrated post
>>69512288
This.
There's no fluidity to it.
>>69508839
>can't name 5 players
>generalize the public using yourself as the public mindset
>>69512288
I really think baseball is going to die as a sport once the baby boomers who grew up with the sport as their #1 sport die.
When did football surpass baseball as the nation's #1 sport, like the early 80s?
I think that probably in 2020s when the boomers die is when baseball dies. Only another decade of this shit.
>>69509674
>baseball had a strong presence in pop culture about a decade ago but now it's gone.
Steroids tainted the game so people don't actively care anymore.
>>69508882
Yet soccer is still a thing...
>>69512082
>The Yankees and Red Sox are not rivals
When did you become this disconnected from reality?
>>69511864
>total annual attendance blows every other sports league in the world out of the water.
Gee that certainly has nothing to do with every team playing about 1000 games a season
>>69512911
Don't worry kid, some day you'll be able to join the big boy discussion.
>>69508839
Baseball is about the team, other popular sports are about the individual.
Sports coverage outside of the NFL has just turned into TMZ celeb worship. I guarantee most casuals don't know shit about the NBA outside of the Cavs and Warriors.
>baseball
>relevant
I'll give it credit where it's due, in countries like Taiwan and Japan it's still relevant, Taiwanfags are being forcefed this shit doe, baseball everywhere.
>>69518077
unlike before?
> boreball out
>>69509775
Is it just my limited view of american pop culture but are blacks the new rulers of america? If it's not aimed at blacks americans don't want to fucking know about it. That's what your adverts indicate.
Baseball is gay.
>le baseball is dead meme
>muh baseball isn't relevant argument
>>69525007
>>69525031
OP isn't saying that baseball is dead, only that it's vanished from pop culture. Basketball is far more relevant despite having fewer fans and lower league revenue. Why is that?
>>69525106
I honestly don't know, it kinda felt forced into pop culture to start with. Watch any movie from the fucking 30s up to mid 80s and all they always talk about is baseball, then from the 90s onwards it's football.
>>69512288
>Scripted 1v1 encounters and archaic gameplay dynamics are what doomed baseball. There's no creativity, improvisation or team chemistry required.
Basketball, soccer, and American football also have much worse game design.
>muh improvisation
So your beaner brain only cares about improvisation that looks flashy on the television screen?
I don't think you know how much improvisation goes on during the batter vs pitcher matchup.
But it's not Lebron improvising with travel to get into the lane, so it doesn't count.
>>69525172
The problem is that you can't see/understand the improvisation unless you understand the game already. It makes it hard for new fans to get interested.
>>69509025
Yes and no. For more than 100 years, baseball was the go-to sport for plebs. Then after they introduced sabermetrics and other Asperger shit for player evaluation it naturally attracted absolute autists.
>>69525106
Basketball is not really relevant outside of when Lebron James, Curry, and formerly Kobe were playing.
See the ratings for the NBA Finals, and how they crashed the following year after Jordan retired. And basketball seemed to completely disappear from pop culture overnight when MJ was gone.
Even the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe really couldn't pop the ratings back up to MJ levels.
We would really see just comparatively marginalized basketball is to baseball if Lebron or Curry didn't make it to the Finals. See Detroit vs. San Antonio for evidence.
Basketball isn't relevant in US pop culture. Lebron is.
I say this as a basketball fan. But most Americans really couldn't name a player outside of 5 or so, and don't really follow the sport "unless Lebron's playing."
>>69525371
This. That's why basketball is so DESPERATE to promote one player and hype him into oblivion. People call Curry and Lebron manufactured superstars but it really started with Jordan.
>>69525371
So it STILL hasn't even surpassed the ratings during Jordan's first title? That's incredible. Has one player ever elevated an entire sport like that?
>>69525299
You're right on this point.
The common act of jogging down a fly ball is more difficult to perform than a crossover dribble, but the latter is "highlight worthy" because it's more visually exciting.
Someone will greentext that, but I played both sports, and tracking a small, white object 10 stories high in the air launching from a distance 300 feet away that is constantly changing direction (subtly) is harder to do than dribbling the ball from your strong to off hand quickly.
>>69508839
peoples realised it was a pretty boring sport
with not much happening most of the time , so peoples more and more turn toward sports where shit happen
>>69525401
>Has one player ever elevated an entire sport like that?
Maybe Ruth in the golden age of baseball?
>>69509674
Everyone talks about baseball in the #the6ix
>>69525463
Baseball was already extremely popular even before Ruth. I'd say Jack Dempsey, Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis really elevated boxing.
Baseball is popular in NYC, Boston, LA and Chicago
who gives a fuck about the rest of the country?
>>69525371
To help prove your point, try to think of any three basketball movies. I'm almost certain at least two of them were made in the mid-90s.
>>69509674
It's because it's extremely team and depth oriented, one superstar can only do so much. Kershaw might be the best pitcher in the world but even that doesn't amount to much if he plays only every 5th game and not even a full game at that.
Meanwhile if you have someone like Aaron Rodgers in football or Lebron in basketball it can elevate a crap team into a title contender instantly.
>>69525452
>with not much happening most of the time
Baseball actually has more happening in it than other sports.
There's about 300 pitches per game in an MLB game, and each one is important.
There's just not constant "running and jumping" which people seem to define as action these days.
>>69508839
Ayo hol up!! Where da slam dunks tho nigga!!? XD
These square crackas be lame an sheeit nawmean famm!!? Smh
>>69525371
This. How many casuals can name any current player other than Lebron and Curry?
>>69525512
Baseball is also popular in California
>>69525512
NYC, Boston, LA, Chicago, San Francisco, Atlanta, Miami (not Marlins per se but the Cubans in Miami LOVE baseball), St. Louis, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, it's popular pretty much everywhere other than the literal who states like Montana or whatever.
>>69509674
>It's still the 2nd-most popular sport if you look at polls, attendance, and revenue,
It's had a boost in attendance over the last few years, but not popularity for one reason:
Baby Boomers are retiring.
Seriously, there have been articles about it. Baseball attendances are up only because baseball-loving Boomers have more free time to go to more of the many many home games. Popularity amongst young people continues to drop.
>>69525172
>le epic lebron traveling in the lane meme
>someone who doesn't know shit about basketball arguing with someone who doesn't know shit about baseball
/sp/ in a nutshell basically.
>>69525639
People retire every generation though
Might be true to a certain extent though, this is probably why you see some gay attempts to appeal to swag faggot millennials creeping into broadcasts
>>69525639
Too bad the frequent attender statistics prove you wrong.
And what's with this retarded idea that baseball is a "boomer sport?"
They're the demographic who made football into the relevant monster it is today, and the average age of the typical NFL and MLB is 49 and 53.
You also assume that the taste of young people will remain static. Young kids switch favorite sports by the month.
But among the 18-34, baseball is still very strong.
>>69525761
He didn't say anything that wasn't true though, while you contributed nothing except acting like a condescending faggot lmao
The game doesn't let you jam as many commercials into it like football or basketball.
It's a sport where you wear a fucking belt with pants.
>>69525847
It doesn't let me watch da whyte wimminz dancing either
>>69512954
Don't you guys play both down there?
>>69508839
It's still alive and well where I live. Our community baseball league has like 10 teams for both boys and girls from 5yrs old all the way to high school. Saturdays are fucking packed and it's been like this since I was a little kid. My son has played for the last 4yrs now and he loves playing more than the football, basketball and soccer leagues he plays in.
>>69525609
>Miami (not Marlins per se but the Cubans in Miami LOVE baseball)
We like the Yankees more than we like the Marlins though lol
>>69512082
Lol ur a fag and your shit's all retarded
>>69525371
Well while it didn't hit Bulls numbers, this years game 7 hit 31.02 million.
Also keep in mind that this is an age where there are many more options for entertainment on demand and not limited to OTA programming.
Fox is intent on ruining Baseball for everyone with this shitty television series about a female pitcher that will never, ever, and quote me on this, EVER happen in reality.
I understand people want to belong, and think everyone can do everything, but this is getting to the top of ridiculousness. Someone needs to put a stop to it and bring some common sense back to Sports and Sports coverage. Unfortunately it's going to have to be a woman to stand up and say "Yea you know this won't happen" and lay out exactly why because men, and this include Major League ballplayers, are too weak and effeminate to say anything.
>>69525971
Yes, these playoffs were lovely weren't they. Two teams coming back from down 3-1 in back to back series with no help at all. Completely on their own merits. No interference or inconsistency. Just objective rule enforcement and punishments. Definitely the best sport. Get your $379 Currys or LeBrons today!!
>>69525999
Obviously it won't ever happen, but this doesn't really have anything to do with the sport of baseball, it's just a tv show. Obviously a completely stupid idea for a show though. If a woman ever were to somehow play baseball, she most certainly would never be a pitcher
>>69509674
It's the last true "team" sport in today's sports in the fact that one player can't make a team a contender for a championship. Football has it with QBs, soccer has it worldwide with their stars, basketball obviously has it. Couple that with an increasing amount of people who are simply fans of a player (JJ Watt, LeBron, Messi, etc), baseball has kind of fallen behind in that respect. I mean Mike Trout, the best player in the game by a mile, is performing incredibly well on a last place team, and no one will talk about a team that loses. The steroid era also did a lot to disenfranchise people from the sport in a time that old stars were leaving and new stars were coming, taking away a lot of buzz that could have been created. Pop culture doesn't follow big market teams anymore (Dallas, New York, LA, Boston). It's about the individual players and their personal marketability through social media, and baseball will never have that on the level of other sports desu
>>69508839
missing baseball for a year killed the love of the sport.
>>69526095
>Mike Trout, the best player in the game by a mile
>>69526061
They're going to try to get around her physical limitations by making her master pitch being some sort of super-screwball, but even knuckleballers still need to have a 80-85mph fastball to occasionally change it up.
The world record for fastest pitch by a woman in 69mph.
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/fastest-baseball-pitch-(female)/
That kind of arm strength wouldn't even be good for 2nd base.
>>69525803
the boomer thing comes from the average age of people watching at home, which for baseball is almost 50 years old (don't have source but google it, won't be hard to find). This has convinced people that the olds are the target demographic of MLB and that they will lose the youngs to other sports. I'm not really buying it, but that's the story
>>69526061
I always thought pitcher would be the most likely position for a female baseball player.
>don't have to bat if in the AL
>minimal running
>shortest distance to throw the ball in fielding situations
>pitchers can get by with having crafty, difficult to predict pitches and not being overpowering
Not that I think a woman could play in the MLB, just that if it's going to happen it would be athe pitcher
>>69525864
>pants
only if you're a pleb, patricians wear knickerbockers.
>>69526144
>crafty
>difficult to predict
Females are dumb as shit.
>>69526147
>2016
>not wearing longstockings
>>69526061
It does have something to do with Baseball because MLB & Fox teamed up on this. Major League Baseball literally has a hand in the deceit, deception, and propaganda that this show will embody.
I'm hard pressed to think of one position a woman could possibly beat a man out for on the field. You can't hide a weak link out there. The physical requirements are too great even in a slower game like Baseball.
>>69526118
not him, but how can a pitcher be the best player when he only plays once every five games. the sport is constructed in such a way that you have to play for the long run and manage a team into the post season for a chance run at the title. Pitchers just don't have the opportunity to contribute as much as other players.
>>69510419
JJ Watt, Trout (though I live in LA so my exposure might be more than elsewhere), literally every top 10 NBA player, Messi, Ronaldo, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Sidney Crosby, etc
I think the major problem with baseball is Trout is the only player in the league you could argue belongs on the list, and you could still make the case that he doesn't
>>69526144
You still some bit of velocity at the end of the day, and even the best junkballers can still get it up around 80-85. Wakefield was the slowest at 75mph, which is still 6 mph faster than the women's world record.
Barely anyone has posted the real answer: ESPN decided they were going to start hyping niggerball A (NFL) and niggerball B (NBA) at the expense of everything else. It all trickles down from there. Fortunately ESPN is losing relevance
>>69525999
Why do you feel so attacked anon
everyone's just going to look at it, laugh, and move on. acting like there's an invading dogma just makes their resistance stronger
Would love to see a girl in baseball though, just for the keks. there was some French qt last year that was eligible as an international FA but she evidently has not made it
A female pitcher is absolutely retarded though. I don't even know what position a girl could play, maybe some contact hitting Amazon at first?
>>69526184
>MLB & Fox teamed up
Damn, I didn't know that. Still, just a show though. If a woman ever plays more than 2 games in a season or for a team that's not completely eliminated from playoff contention just for the gimmick and to draw attention to the sport from casuals for a couple of days I will kill myself though, cap this
>>69526118
>DL
Meanwhile in cricket.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3274933/Sarah-Taylor-selected-woman-play-elite-men-s-cricket-Under.html
http://www.sportskeeda.com/slideshow/5-female-cricketers-who-have-played-mens-cricket
>>69526190
I get that, and I kind of have a problem with pitchers winning MVP because of that, but Kershaw is definitely the best or most dominant at his position
>>69526134
It wouldn't even matter, if her only decent pitch isn't unpredictable like a knuckleball and she can't throw anything else above 70 anyway, the scouting report is just gonna have a big smiley face drawn on it
>>69526192
Trout, Harper, Stanton, Syndergaard, Kershaw, Arietta, and the list goes on. Being a superstar is part talent and part personality, and I don't see how anyone can say that baseball doesn't have enough.
I think the real problem is that a lot of people don't understand what's going on. When my wife and I had people over last weekend for a party I turned on the game and there were men, not just women, there that didn't understand what was going on between swings of the bat. I had to explain that the catcher was signaling the pitcher and that pitchers can't just throw their best pitch all the time, that batters had to make a decision to take a pitch to set up a steal and so on. They literally just thought that nothing happens outside of a guy swinging at a baseball.
>>69526276
>best or most dominant at his position
totally agree, but the nature of the position more or less invalidates any argument that he's a bigger contribution to his team that trout.
>>69526134
I'm honestly surprised that some super strong enormous woman hasn't been able to hit higher speeds. Maybe it's because women know not to try to train for the sport, since it won't get them anywhere. Surely some 250+ lb woman weightlifter has the muscle mass necessary to throw faster than 69 mph. The great disadvantage of women relative to men is their ability to put on muscle mass and their muscle to fat ratio, but we've seen extremely twiggy men throw very fast, so that tells us that the minimum threshold of muscle mass necessary to hit those speeds is not particularly high.
this shit sucks http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/baseball/36771336
was looking forward to seeing MLB come to the UK and would hopefully expand its presence over here like what they're doing with the NFL.
from a britbong who's been watching baseball for 10+years
>>69508882
>>69508920
Euros can't handle a sport that doesn't have a clock?
>>69508920
if cricket can remain popular globally then so can baseball.
>>69526301
As a baseball fan, I know those players but your typical casual fan doesn't right now. Maybe it's the fault of the MLB or ESPN for not marketing them properly, but ask somebody 10 years ago and they could spout off Jeter, ARod, Bonds, Ramirez, Ichiro, and others. I highly doubt your casual, "I only watch baseball in September and October" fan could name those off the top of their head
You are definitely spot on that people don't know all that happens, and it could be because of the increasing use of sabermetrics in the game. People just want to know homeruns, slam dunks and touchdowns. Having a concept of who's actually good in today's game requires knowledge of all these seemingly random statistics that to the average fan looks like total gibberish, and it detaches the casuals that don't want to take the time to look at anything more than ERA and batting average.
>>69517981
Okay, but then is it not impressive that they can play 81 home games per season and still keep up attendance figures? I always hate this argument.
>>69526410
>People just want to know homeruns
This
>>69511980
Best post ITT.
>>69526428
Yeah, I don't get it either. I think the average attendance is about 30,000 people per game. Not bad for >muh meaningless regular season games
>>69511986
>when they almost literally don't matter
How often do teams get down to the last couple games of the season and are only up a few games for the division title? Please continue to say they "literally" don't matter. Games in April do matter, contrary to what people want to believe.
>>69526410
>ERA and batting average
I think another part of the problem is that there is generally a lot of variance to these things nowadays. When Bonds was playing you knew he was going to make contact (if they threw to him) and that he was going to get on base for sure. The star players used to be more consistent in their output from game to game, but now there a good chance that I tune into a Nats game and Harper doesn't get a single hit. For me that's fine and I'll watch anyway, but for others that feels like a downer. It's not often (if ever?) that you see Curry have a no points game. People don't just want to see superstars, they want to see superstars knowing that they'll give a peak performance.
>>69512100
Only thing in this post that is true consistently is your first point.
>>69526452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLECMCargd8
You guys don't actually believe that he fastest baseball pitch by a woman is 69mph do you? That's pants on head retarded. I've seen girls at the pitch speed things at baseball stadium get well above that. Google tells me the fastest ones are hit the 80s
>>69512631
Wow didn't realize me and my friends were 60+
>>69511980
10000 % correct
>>69526118
>plays 1 time every 5 days
>injury prone
>choker in the playoffs
>best player
top kek
Sports in general are less prominent in popular culture now
Though baseball is by far the hardest hit. Even as the local game that it is, the average person won't know shit about their local team
>>69526134
Sorry but unless she can develop like 3-4 pitches that can reach into the 80-95 range, depending on the type, she will never amount to anything.
>>69526377
Just keep trying to drop the baseball pill on your friends bruh
>>69526465
It is hilarious when people say games only matter in September. Makes no sense.
>>69525007
>Harris poll of 2178 adults
>>69526656
Your point? Even 1000 people is statistically relevant sample size, ever took a statistics class?
Baseball will always be the silent majority sport.
Gotta love how any player going "omg theres no nig yolo swag thug stuff going on" immediately gets shutdown.
>>69526673
To a population of 318 million, it isn't
>>69526710
lol
>>69526710
>To a population of 318 million
you don't really understand how sample sizes work do you?
>>69526710
What would be then?
>>69526722
You don't understand how relevancy works, do you?
>>69526710
>this fucking retard
Literally look up sample size calculator.
>>69526742
Just stop man.
>>69526742
for a population of 318million at 95% confidence with a 5% error you need 384 respondents.
>>69525803
>And what's with this retarded idea that baseball is a "boomer sport?"
First of all, your very graph shows that MLB has the lowest percentage of overall attenders in the 18-34 range. What it doesn't show is what percentage are 6-17 and what percentage are 34+. Still, MLB is closer to golf in terms of its demographics than it is to MLS or NBA.
In 2013, the average age of a viewer of the World Series was 54.4 according to Nielsen.
Nielsen defines "kids" as viewers aged 6-17.
In 2013, 540,000 kids tuned in to watch the NLCS and ALCS, compared to:
In 2003, 2,500,000 kids tuned in to watch the NLCS and ALCS
Kids accounted for 4.3% of the NLCS and ALCS audience compared to:
9.4% of the NBA conference finals
9.0% of the NHL conference finals
11.0% of Premier League audience on NBC
Information came from:
http://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303843104579167812218839786
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/2/10/5390172/major-league-attendance-trends-1950-2013
>>69508839
MLB players today have no real personality. Baseball needs a Muhammad Ali-type guy who's just better than everyone else and makes sure that everyone knows it.
>>69526846
>Muhammad Ali-type guy
pls no
>>69526846
>verlander blowing people the fuck out on twitter isn't personality
>>69526846
Baseball needs an 80 IQ nig who hates America and dodges the draft?
>>69508839
Move to Japan. Its bigger there then in USA.
>>69526846
you can't get guys talking shit like that because
1. they'll just get pitched at
2. no one can put up that consistent of a performance
besides we still have plenty of personality, people just don't want to watch a sport they don't understand.
>>69511980
>Attention spans got smaller and so did sports requiring such spans.
>Friendly reminder that the US' decline as a country almost marks for for dot the decline of baseball as the most popular sport here
Yes, because the problem is entirely the US population and not at all changes in the sport.
>>69526983
blame the jews then
>>69527006
We both know it's not just commercials. There is a fuckton of fannying about by players.
For one, I want them to ban batters being able to call time. You step into the box and hit. Gloves don't feel right? Fly buzzing around your head? Too fucking bad, you're a millionaire athlete. Hit the fucking ball.
>>69508839
>caring about dying sports
Baby boomers are literally the only ones keeping that "sport" alive but they'll be gone soon enough
>>69511853
Jews fucking love baseball. Theres a documentary about it even.
>>69526983
I'd like to see median game length rather than average. There's always some game each week that goes on forever into extras.
>>69527056
That's great and all, but if you make batter less comfortable they'll hit worse, and there's always fear of another deadball era.
I can seriously only name, like, 3-4 baseball players and I'm not sure if some of them are even relevant anymore
Bautista, Trout, Linececum, Halladay, Texiera, CC Sabathia
>>69527132
one is great, one is good, three are irrelevant and one is fun
>>69527098
>I'd like to see median game length rather than average. There's always some game each week that goes on forever into extras.
The average was taken from 9 inning games, so they're all the same amount of innings.
>>69527175
okay, didn't notice that. shit reading comprehension.
So since the 70's game have added ~29 minutes. Let's say 4-5 of that is replays each game, a couple more from commercials, where's the rest coming from?
>all these boreball autists still delusional about boreball tanking
Quite literally no one but spics and old geezers show up to boreball games. I remember 1 boreball autist telling me that Dodgers are the most popular sports team in LA where I live even though Lakers and now the Rams drive up interest top kek.
>call out luckswing as the boring autistic """""sport""""' it is
>some luckswingfag suddenly switches from being a cuck to muh America's favorite pasttime you're not American if you don't enjoy watching Spiccy Hernandez swing.
Now all that's left is to let this shit """""sport""""" die with the baby boomers
>>69527006
The problem is batters calling time every pitch and pitchers making like 20 pickoff attempts per inning. Also managers making 3 or 4 pitching changes in a single inning.
>>69510419
Name a top 10 NFL QB and probably a big star. Cam Newton, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson are bigger than every other athlete sans NBA Stars like Curry, Durant, LeBron, Melo, etc.
Side note, is Rose still worthy of star-NBA player status?
>>69527192
Mostly mid-inning pitching changes when situational relief became all the rage in the 90s
But also pitchers and batters take longer. Guys in the early 2000s like Nomar with their ridiculous routines between every pitch. That kind of shit didn't occur in the 70s.
>>69511864
>Attendance per game is up there with NFL
M8, maybe in the postseason, but you don't seriously believe this, do you? Most NFL teams average 40k+ (with the shitty teams like the jags, busc, and lelphins on the low end) which is way better than an average regular season MLB game.
>>69508839
It disappeared when fox ditched their great pregame music around 2010 and started using the shitty NFL music instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9_AyDshGqI
>>69527158
I should have made myself more clear: baseball players who I think are active
>>69527354
>>69527343
>>69527331
>>69527314
>>69527300
because baseball is fucking garbage and people are finally realizing it
>muh wooden bats
homeruns are boring
>muh stats
youre not smart
>muh get in umpires face and yell
gay
>muh 9 innings
it should be 7 max
>>69527337
Correction, every individual NFL team averages over 52k in attendance. MLB average attendance for the whole league is around 30k per game. 16 MLB teams average below 30k attendance, and the league average is honestly boosted by the fact that the Dodgers and St. Louis have 43-44k, at least 2k higher than the teams immediately below them.
>>69527394
at least you can see what's going on when you watch baseball, unlike stickfight.
>>69527435
follow the play not the puck my american friend
>>69527368
>ywn be this triggered by a sport
feels fucking great man.
baseball games should be two and a half hour's long, for fuck's sake. unless it's a crazy exciting game with tons of hits, that's what it should be.
i remember watching based greg maddux for years on TNT or WGN or some shit and he'd calmly walk out there at 1pm and have the whole shit wrapped up with a 2-0 victory by 3.20
>>69527453
the ball is the play.
>>69511980
>proceeds to bash soccer because it has few goals
and yet it is gettinf popular.
baseball is shit,the new generations arent being pushed into it so they don't get into it by free will
ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO
>>69527478
whoever told you that soccer is getting popular here is lying to you.
>>69508839
I grew up playing baseball and going to Indians games with my dad. Now I couldn't give 2 shits if it dies. I have no nostalgia for such a dumb sport. Americucks need to get over "muh history"
>>69527470
Agreed, the problem is that players and coaches are being allowed to drag out every moment of the game for as long as possible.
>Batter steps up to the plate
>steps back out of the box, adjusts his glove
>pitcher gets set, looks, looks, looks, throws
>strike
>batter steps back out of the box, adjusts gloves, takes a couple swings, steps back out
>pitcher tries to pickoff the man at first
>gets set
>does it again
>batter steps back out of the box
It's fucking agonizing. Then the manager will change pitchers and we all have to wait 10 minutes for the new guy to get warmed up, because I guess he was just sitting on his ass in the bullpen.
>>69527454
>triggered
I love baseball. I've got a Jose Reyes foul ball and a Dontrelle Willis figure on my bookshelf right in front of me. I've got multiple jerseys in my closet.
I'm just worried because there are problems with the sport that are being glossed over because Boomer retirement money is hiding the fact that there are cracks in the foundation. I want to see these problems fixed so baseball can be the cultural force it once was.
>>69527508
why would you have nostalgia for a sport that is currently being played?
>>69527477
not a Baseball Is Dying article
but kek, your sport has been constantly dying for over a century
>>69527478
>>69527506
Soccer is getting popular, but not because it's suddenly become interesting. The popularity of soccer is growing at the same rate as the Mexican/Colombian/Guatemalan immigrant population. We're not becoming soccer fans, we're just importing them.
>>69527524
the "problem" is that the younger generations just want to see constant action because they grew up with electronics and instant gratification which has melted their brains. and before some smart ass calls me gramps and tells me to go to bed i'm 26 years old.
>>69525007
>the top two sports will soon be
>football
>college football
I hope arena league and the canadian league eventually fill in 3 and 4, lingerie league can be 5.
>>69527520
yep.
another big issue is that what's actually there is less exciting than ever before. too many strikeouts, not enough balls in play. defensive shifts making a ton of decent hits into simple outs.
the game needs more balls in play and more hits. balls in play are exciting. strikeouts vs homers is not fun.
>>69527508
>Now I couldn't give 2 shits if it dies
What changed? And why would you feel nostalgia for a sport that's still very popular?
>>69527520
>10 minutes for the new guy to get warmed up
they're allowed 8 pitches
Most everything else you said is right though. If you can't enjoy the parts between the pitches you really can't enjoy baseball. Either you find it tense and exciting or you find it boring.
>>69527551
>needs more balls in play
more balls in play means a longer game though. you can't reasonably make rules that both get more offense and a shorter game.
>>69527564
Even when I played, I hated how everyone took their sweet time between pitches. I can understand that sometimes the batter needs to call time, and pickoff attempts can be fun, but it's happening too often and it's ruining the game at every level. I went to my little brother's game the other day and naturally they were doing that same "taking all day to throw a pitch" crap the pros do.
>>69527549
The games are getting long to the point of being a problem. It would be fine if there was just an increase in the action, but that's not the case. The game is just getting stretched out so there's more downtime.
I used to love going to see Mark Buerhle pitch, because he didn't fuck around. He fired in pitches and we got to watch fucking baseball. I don't want to watch batters dancing around and the pitcher lobbing soft tosses to 1st base eight different times. I watch baseball to see baseball being played.
The increased length of baseball games is not a subjective opinion, it is an objective fact.
>>69527549
>melts their brains
Doesn't that mean their brains are working faster? Watching baseball is literally like watching paint dry.
>even best players only get on base one out of every three fucking bats
>substitute as many pitchers as you want, who gives a shit
>instant replay, somehow still get the calls wrong
>no salary cap
>games somehow go into the fucking three hour mark
>so many games during a season, each game is fucking meaningless
>despite no contact except the occasional hit at bat, players always hurt
Baseball is the worst aspect of every sport combined into one.
>stoppage of Americaball
>lack of scoring of Euroball
>flopping and pussy egocentric players of Sneakersqueek
>4,000 regular season games of Stickfight
>commentary on par of CapitalGainsSwing
Challenge for casual baseball fans & non-fans: name 3 of these guys
>>69527554
Still very popular? Sure, maybe with ESPN viewers and old white people. Face it, it's a boring tradition that never evolved and even the Venezuelans and Dominicanos are converting to soccer.
>>69527644
They need to implement new rules to get things back to normal imo. Set a time limit between pitches, and limit the number of times the batter can call for time to once per at bat. If the pitcher goes over the limit, it's a ball. If the batter goes over the limit, it's a strike.
>>69527644
it's also an objective fact that i've barely noticed the increase in length and it hasn't bothered me in the slightest. your brain is melted and you don't have any patience.
>>69508839
It didnt. Youre just a teenage shut-in faggot.
>>69527578
Increases in game length are unrelated to scoring.
>>69527702
>Still very popular? Sure, maybe with ESPN viewers and old white people.
http://www.theharrispoll.com/sports/Americas_Fav_Sport_2016.html
1. Football: 43%
2. Baseball: 15%
3. Basketball: 9%
Average attendance:
1. NFL: 68,400
2. MLB: 30,517
3. NBA: 17,864
Revenue:
1. NFL: $13 billion
2. MLB: $9.5 billion
3. NBA: $5.2 billion
>>69527651
none of those things matter except for instant replay, which is a problem in every sport that has it. everything you listed has been going on for as long as i can remember watching, which was in the late 90's.
>>69527751
What you mean to say is that the increases in game length that have occurred are unrelated to scoring. What you said is that there need to be more balls in play. More balls in play means more batters necessary to finish the game, which, ceteris paribus, will increase the length of the game. It's possible to decrease the length of the games without affecting score, but I challenge you to find a way to increase scoring without affecting the length of the game.
>>69527472
What an ignorant fucking comment, lmao
>>69527818
what's the point of watching the players if you can't see what they're doing? they're passing around this tiny little circle at 85mph and you can't see shit. you know what they should do? paint the ice black and the puck white. or have it highlighted when it's on tv. it's just too small and too fast.
>>69513499
fuck you
>>69527852
saying that you can't follow the play because you can't see the puck is like saying that you can't follow baseball because you can't see the pitch. Get better eyes.
>>69527852
>paint the ice black
BLACKED
>>69527880
but i can see the pitch in baseball, very clearly.
>>69527897
and the people who watch hockey can see the puck clearly. It takes a little time, like with baseball, but your eyes get used to it. I grew up with baseball and watch hockey now as well, it's really not that difficult.
>>69527852
I have this problem when trying to watch lacrosse
>>69527934
it doesn't take time to get used to the pitch in baseball, it's always very easy to see. the only time it's hard to see is when it pops up during a daytime game.
>>69527804
First, that wasn't me, I was responding to your point.
And you're assuming that balls in play cause an increase in game length which is not necessarily the case. A player hitting a first pitch single and then another player grounding out into a double play on his second pitch sees two players out within three pitches. While a pitcher grinding out two strikeouts takes at the very least six, if not realistically 8-10 pitches to do so.
Ultimately, the failure is that you're equating "balls in play" with "successful hits and runs" which is not necessarily the case. The argument that he makes, and I agree, is that watching a player fly out or ground out is still more enjoyable than watching a player strike out. Fielding and baserunning are more exciting to see than guys taking pitches and fouling stuff off. Plays at the plate are 100x more exciting than home runs.
In general, what we're, in fact, seeing is that the number of pitches per plate appearance has been consistently rising over the last few decades. Pitches per PA continue to rise despite the fact that runs and hits have decreased significantly since the juiced era. Pitchers take more and more pitches and time to get players out despite less balls in play. We're seeing more pitches and less dynamic action than ever before.
>>69508839
Ichiro
Jose Reyes
Big Papi
David Wright
A-Rod
I do have to admit that it took me a little longer than I wanted to think of any 5 active MLB players. Goes to show that I'm not really into the sport anymore. It has been probably 2 years at most since I have watched a baseball game.
>>69528017
3 of those guys are on the verge of retirement
>>69527982
I don't really think it's more difficult to see a puck than a baseball. It took me time to get used to both.
I mean sure you can see that a baseball is in the air, but getting used to the motion to know that it was a curve, slider or fastball takes time. Honestly if you can't tell the pitches apart the at bats are pretty boring.
>>69528003
>you're equating "balls in play" with "successful hits and runs" which is not necessarily the case.
you're right I did, and I see you're point. my mistake.
>>69528033
that's just knowledge of the game, that has nothing to do with actually seeing the pitch. since the camera films from behind the pitcher it's always very easy to see the ball. i don't know a damn thing about soccer, but i still like watching it because i can actually see what's happening.
>>69528076
>camera films from behind the pitcher
I thought we were talking about watching in person. Yeah it's very easy to see the pitch on tv.
>>69528026
Yea, I noticed that as well. Also goes to show that I was more interested in the sport when I was younger and more interested in the World Series and now don't really know much of the new and popular guys.
Actually, I will say that I did somewhat pay attention to the World Series last year because of the Mets.
>>69528105
no i was talking about tv. hockey is the reverse, it's easy to see the puck when you're actually at the game but it doesn't translate well to a screen. the camera is so far away from the rink.
>>69525864
You wear a belt with a football uniform too anon
>>69528143
I'm the opposite of this, I can never follow the puck live but on TV I have no problem.
Either or, it's easy enough to just follow the player's reactions and figure out exactly where the fucking thing is anyway.
>>69526095
Doesn't really work like that with football(soccer). There are certainly hugely famous players but one player can never carry a team.
>>69525864
Belts are /fa/ as fuck, literally creates a visual line between undershirt and pants- allowing you to cleanly break any patterns or colors. Giving you tons more options. Also it's a completely free accent.
>>69528177
it's just not the same if you can't see it. that's what i do when i watch every sport, i follow the ball, and i've been doing it for too long to break the habit just for hockey.
>>69508839
The league just does a really awful job of marketing. The NBA (both the league as an entity as well as individual teams/players) makes full use of youtube, twitter, vines, snapchat, etc., and the league has a great presence in pop culture as a result.
>>69528205
>one player can never carry a team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS8pqLtyEZU
>>69527664
Trout
Cabrera
Reyes? (is he on Kansas City now?)
>>69508839
I can name 5 or more active Major League Baseball (MLB) players:
1. Kris Bryant, 3B, Chicago Cubs
2. Salvador Perez, C, Kansas City Royals
3. Madison Bumgarner, P, San Francisco Giants
4. Daniel Murphy, 2B, Washington Nationals
5. Mike Trout, OF, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
6. Jose Bautista, OF, Toronto Blue Jays
I also know who Giancarlo Stanton is (OF for the Miami Marlins, won the 2016 MLB HR Derby). It isn't hard to name any currently active MLB players.
>>69528306
>Daniel Murphy
>>69528205
In England alone RVP, Bale, Suarez, and arguably Kane all did it.
>>69526039
>i-it's all fixed
Fuck off, retard.
>>69528205
I said it is more likely and easier to do so in soccer than in baseball, which is true. Baseball has too many individual factors constantly at work, and sometimes your best asset on your team may be a pitcher (doyers) and he's only going to play around 35 games a year. If you threw a top 10 soccer player on any team, they could at least contend. Not saying they would be favorites to win it all, or that it implies it takes anything less than a great full team to truly be dominant, but they certainly wouldn't finish last in their division or league, which happens often in baseball.
>>69528359
Are you nuts?
Having watched Field of Dreams and Moneyball recently, I sort of want to get into Baseball. Unsure who I'll bandwagon though. Will probably watch a few games and see who I fancy though. Maybe the Chicago Cubs because Steve Goodman was a fan of theirs.
Also what's the difference between the National League and the American League?
>baseball has been dying since the Ottoman empire
>Cubs still can't win this dead sport
>>69528401
in the american league there is a position called the designated hitter that doesn't exist in the national league. the DH is used to replace the least effective batter on the team, which is usually one of the starting pitchers. in the national league, everybody who's active in the game has to bat.
>>69525172
I know nothing about sports I talk shit about the post
>>69528273
Suarez was a massive player for them right enough, but they also had Gerrard, Coutinho and prime Sterling at the time.
>>69528449
Oh right. Do they ever play each other?
>>69528401
The Cubs, Mets, Astros, Orioles, Nationals and Indians are all young teams that each have potential to make some good runs in the next few years. You'd be getting in on the ground floor of some pretty exciting baseball IMO
>>69528505
yes. when they're in a national team's home stadium they can't use the DH, but if they're in an american league stadium they can both use one.
>>69528401
The American League does not play baseball
The American League is also full of meme expansion teams while the national league is the oldest continuous professional sports league in the world.
>>69528505
Yes and home team uses their league rules. interleague play is still relatively new and there are some who aren't the biggest fans of it
>>69528531
It also has teams that were jewed out of the NL by butt stealig
>>69528401
The National League is older (founded in the 1880s vs the AL which was founded in 1901). The American League also uses a silly meme rule where the pitchers don't have to hit.
>>69528531
>>69528547
>>69528600
Total cringe
>>69528523
Cubs it is I guess. Wrigley field is meant to be pretty iconic as well I hear.
>>69528634
Did you really cringe at that? Life must be tough if that made you physically cringe up.
>it's another "stop liking what i dont like" bait thread
Why dont the janitors dont just delete this fucking garbage
>>69528650
Wrigley and Fenway are memes, seriously atrocious shithole parks, but they won't get torn down because muh tradition (yeah because the Cubs won so many world series playing there).
>>69528687
when it's gone on for this long a tradition of losing is just as impressive as winning.
>>69528653
It really speaks volumes about how much of a stupid pathetic fuck you are
>>69528634
>muh secret internet club trolling lol fuck u suck my dick boxxy!!1!! c u at habbo hotel!!!1!1!!!1 xdxdxd
>>>/r/4chan
>>69528726
What the fuck are you even talking about you stupid aspie
Baseball is simply too involved, intricate and intelligent for NFL babbys who can only pay attention long enough for muh tackles. There's a reason nobody really keeps stats in football and it's because there aren't really any stats to keep track of. Football is, quite literally, the dumb rube's choice. They know it 100%, that's why the entire game has just turned into an advertising vehicle because NFL shitters are too dumb to notice
>>69528708
That I asked if you physically cringed?
Holy moly man. I didn't know they let people online at the National Center for Aspergers treatment.
>>69528757
Oh wow, good one you fucking retard, dad must be proud to have such a witty genius like you!
>>69528757
Dumbass
>>69508839
Gee I wonder why
>>69528766
Jokes on you! I have shit to do today!
>>69528776
Actually offended Aspie?
>>69528786
>pitcher stares at him for at least 10 seconds
stopped reading there.
>>69528786
It would be so easy to eliminate 90% of that. Why doesn't the league do it?
>Batters can no longer call time
>Pitchers are limited to 1 pickoff attempt per at bat
There we go, cut the game time down by an hour without really changing anything.
>>69528835
>an hour
stopped reading there.
>>69528816
>>69528859
Reading is a real struggle for you, isn't it?
>>69528816
>>69528859
>this asshurt
>>69528914
no, i'm just more of a non-fiction kinda guy.
>>69511870
Should be amended to mean Are there any superstars that aren't system babies and cheaters
The game has no nation-wide appeal. If your team isn't playing, then you don't care. It's not like football or basketball where everyone tunes in for the Super Bowl and the Finals. How many people outside of New York and Kansas bothered to watch the World Series last year?
>>69528810
>i have shit to do today
Obviously, which is why you're being a fucking autist
Baseball isn't a team sport.
>>69529099
alright, take the defense away from the pitcher and see how well that goes for him.
>>69529151
They don't have to interact aside from hitting the cut off man and the executing double-play. The level of synchronization between teammates is extremely simple compared to more sophisticated team sports.
>>69527664
AL sux
>>69527664
Bryce Harper
Miguel Cabrera
>>69508839
I think what it basically boils down to is that there's a lot more fatherless households these days so kids don't have an opportunity to play catch with their dad and there moms are too weak to put their autistic video game playing children in little league. The black men that fuck these kids' moms are probably basketball fans so the kids come to identify with these basketball players as role models, in part because they look like the men who fuck their mom
>>69529191
doesn't matter if it's simple, who's going to make those throws if they aren't there? a ghost? and there's also the batting order, if there were only one batter then he'd have no choice but to hit a home run.
>>69529304
Nice memebot
>>69527664
That wasn't even this year's all star team dumbass. I know them all except for SS and RF though
Salvador Perez
Miguel Cabrera
Jose Altuve
Josh Donaldson
Alex Gordon (? I think)
Mike Trout
Nelson Cruz
>>69529309
The dependency on the batting order is one of the game's biggest flaws.
It's just a series of one on one encounters. Literally nothing team oriented about it. Very outdated.
>>69529349
There's actually some situational things that are dependent on the base runners. But you wouldn't know that because you don't watch baseball lmao
>>69529313
The gist of what I'm saying is true though
>>69529349
have you ever heard of RBI or do you think baseball is just a series of home runs and strikeouts?
>>69529349
"Team orientated" goal sports are what's outdated.
They've been around for centuries and there's about 10,000 "goal sports" in existence. Baseball (and cricket) attempt a different game design, merging an individual sport with a team sport.
And you're wrong about the batting order being a series of individual pieces that don't have influence on the following players.
>>69529387
>>69529404
>>69529414
>>69529421
I grew up watching baseball and played it through little league. So.. stop assuming I don't know the game.
Baseball you can score off of a homerun. It literally takes one person to make that happen.
Basketball can take a preset play consisting of a series of passes, cuts, 1v1 and improvised elements.
I'm not saying baseball doesn't have its charm, but from a team sport perspective, it's much less complex.
>>69529500
That's part of what's cool about it though, imo. It's pretty much an individual sport and a team sport, all at once
>>69529500
In basketball you can score by dribbling down the court and just pulling up for a 3-pointer. It literally takes one person to make that happen.
Baseball can take a series of plays consisting of stolen bases, hits, walks, and sacrifice fly balls or bunts.
>>69529500
so you played the lowest possible level of baseball, that doesn't make you an expert on the game. and sometimes in basketball a player will shoot a three pointer before his teammates even get set up. that happens about as frequently as a home run in baseball.
Not enough blacks, so jews can't push their agenda.
>>69529565
>lowest possible level of baseball
that would be t-ball
and i've watched it my whole life.. so, yeah, i know the game pretty well desu
I only know Jake Arietta because he's on ESPN every day.
>>69529696
t-ball is t-ball, it's not baseball if nobody is pitching to you. if you're a white american male then there's like a 75% chance you played in little league there's nothing special about that.
>>69529702
>watching ESPN
But seriously, ESPN is fucking terrible, especially with baseball because they try to push that "star" label on people and put narratives everywhere. It isn't the NBA for fuck's sake. This is my opinion from watching ESPN for about 5 minutes in the past few years though
>>69529731
I don't watch it sorry I just use the website when I'm done with B/R to see if there is any more news I missed.
>>69529710
Little league doesn't even have the same rules as real baseball
>>69529743
For sure, they actually have good articles sometimes
>>69529710
Point still stands.
Baseball's intricacies are incredibly overrated and romanticized.
There really isn't much to it.
>>69529774
There's a lot to it actually. Each player having his own tendencies and weaknesses. Each at bat is literally a game of chess
>>69529759
Most good ones seem locked behind insider though. If you have any suggestions on other sites I'd be keen to check'em out.
Been meaning to actually try to get into baseball recently. Since I live in CAL is there any team you'd suggest?
Just moved here from Aus so I don't really know shit about any of the teams.
>>69529799
>literally a game of chess
>>69529832
Wouldn't know unless you've played the game at a somewhat competitive level. If you don't understand what's going on then you don't get it
>>69529774
if you think that applies to the entire sport and not just the defense then you're just another dingus who doesn't know what he's watching. pitching and batting is a very intricate game, and it can change dramatically simply because of which hand a player uses most. one player is telling a riddle and the other player is trying to figure it out before he runs out of turns.
>>69529890
Ok, sorry. I wasn't aware a bunch of ex big leaguers hang out on /sp.
Pitching is not as complicated as you'd like to think it is.
Take Aroldis Chapman for example. He can gas it up to 103 and sometimes relies on strictly ONE fucking pitch.
Sure, it's incredibly difficult to hit a ball traveling at that speed, but let's not get carried away with how complex hitting is. It's a ridiculously demanding skill. But that doesn't make it sophisticated.
It simply comes down to seeing the ball well out of the pitcher's hand, anticipating its velocity and movement (although some claim Ted Williams could read the spin and instantly determine what kind of pitch it was) and swinging the bat at it as it crosses the plate.
Pitching is entirely overrated. It's a joke. I don't know how many times an announcer will go on and on and on about how brilliantly a pitcher is mixing his speeds and locations.
There was never a more cerebral pitcher in the game than Greg Maddux. His approach was simple. Mix up speeds and locations with pinpoint control. There are very few pitchers that have played the game with his kind of ability.
It's not rocket science. Just accept it. If you can change speeds and locations and keep the batter guessing, you'll fuck up his timing and ability to make contact.
It's that "easy".
>>69529800
I'm from northern California and I'm a Giants fan. But I'd say just watch and root for whatever team you live closest to. They all have good and exciting players, but the Angels, A's and Padres aren't doing good as teams this year. The Giants and Dodgers are two of the best teams in baseball
>>69529963
i never said it was rocket science. there isn't any skill in any sport in the world that can be compared to rocket science. but you literally just explained why it's intricate, because you need the ability to keep the batter guessing. if you think you can just mix up random pitches then you are dead wrong. you have to know what kind of batter he is, the location of the pitches he hits the most, the location of the pitches he hits the least, his height, his reach, is he conservative or aggressive, is he a power hitter or does he hit grounders, is he right handed or left handed.
>>69529963
None of that is taking into account anticipating what the batter is looking for, or what the pitcher is going to throw, or what the hitters strengths and weaknesses are. This all has to be factored in. Every count adds a new dimension to the at bat too. You're somewhat right, but it isn't really "that easy" at all
>>69529963
>It simply comes down to seeing the ball well out of the pitcher's hand, anticipating its velocity and movement (although some claim Ted Williams could read the spin and instantly determine what kind of pitch it was) and swinging the bat at it as it crosses the plate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTwE7xDZkPk
>>69529862
lol checkmate
>>69530193
>bases loaded
>one out
Couldn't a bunt down the 3rd base line basically win the game?
>>69530222
Clearly baseball players are shit at chess
Because baseball is slow and boring, pretty simple
>>69530193
Do you have the video for this? It seems like it would fail spectacularly, any contact towards the left side would be a win for San Diego.
>>69530322
They brought in an outfielder to play on the left side of the infield
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YwdkLhmh2uY
>>69530322
I don't have the link, but the batter hit a grounder right to the second baseman
>>69530193
Welcome to the golden age of stats
>>69526403
Cricket isnt popular globally. They basically stat pad their ratings by being popular in 2-3 countries with a lot of people.
>>69531124
Heaps of countries care about cricket amigo.
Australia, India, England, New Zealand, Zimbabwe, West Indies, South Africa, Sri Lanka.
You're essentially right, I'm not saying it's globally popular, they stat pad with a few countries, but it's more than 2-3 lol.
>>69531169
australia, england and south africa are the only real countries you listed.
>>69508839
The average baseball fan is just too old now. People under 30 (who are what most tv, music, and website content is aimed at) all prefer football or basketball.
Baseball is too white. The media pushes that not enough niggers play baseball. But they refuse to include Latino niggers in their statistics. Baseball is literally the most diverse sport racially. Whites, blacks, Asians, kikes, Latinos -- all fairly well-represented by their population proportions.
Basically baseball is "irrelevant" because the (((media))) has declared it too white.
>>69512100
Thanks for the explanation. Kinda wish I had an hotdog and some fries right now.
>>69529963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUtSWQuF16A
>>69531204
>Australia
>real country
Good joke.
>hurrr why can't baseball be full of egotistic meme politics bullshit
American pop culture is a joke, and as a baseball fan I am glad it's beyond it.
Baseball is comfy. Nor is it totally behind the times when you get stuff like At Bat and MLB.tv streaming being ahead of leagues like the NFL.
These young players coming up have given the game new life. The Cubs winning the World Series will invigorate it further.
>>69535744
>The Cubs winning the World Series
>>69535857
It will signal a new era in America and the world - the true beginning of the millenium
Once people realized there were much better sports out there and didn't have to suffer watching that shit anymore
>>69535911
>>69535744
Baseball is a lot about tradition and the Cubs being shit is a part of said tradition.
>>69508839
This isn't the 1800s anymore grandpa. People have other shit to do than watch a boring ass game. Time to join the 21st century.
>>69536052
yee, tell dat ol ass raysist honkey waddup nawmean famm?
>>69536141
Enjoy your dying "sport" chuckle fuck.
>>69536215
BOO YA
>>69536215
Will do homie, it's all good in da hood famm, you be trippin an sheit rite now, just chill breh, Smh
>>69536052
every day i come on here to see if baseball has triggered a millennial shitter, and every day i go home satisfied.
>>69536291
How does baseball trigger anyone? It's a lame, dying "game". The only reason anyone 30 years old or younger would like it is because their dad forced them to watch it when they were kids.
>>69525999
As long as the AL has the DH a woman has the chance to make it on a major league team as a meme-pitch specialist reliever.
>>69525999
>black
>woman
Tell me, did they go for the hat-trick and make her gay too?
>>69536343
AYO HOL UP!!
SO YOU BE TRYIN TO SAY THAT SOME PEOPLE ENJOY WHAT THEY GREW UP DOING AN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN ME!!?
Crazy sheit Tbh famm
>>69536365
Why do people think a woman can be a good pitcher?
A pitcher needs to have:
>physical durability
>strong arm
>strong hand-eye coordination
>smarts
None of which are really typical for women. Show me a woman who can throw a 98 mph fastball and then we'll talk.
>>69512082
how will boreshit ever recover?
>>69512082
>It's talking about how "beautiful" a fucking field is instead of actually talking about the sport.
The worst part is, the ballparks aren't even beautiful by themselves, what makes them good is the amount of hills, water and skyscrapers you can see from the stands. Imagine PNC Park or AT&T Park if they were in the middle of nowhere, absolutely generic shit.
The only time ballparks per se get appreciated is with shit like Fenway and Wrigley for being antiquated 3rd world shit with wooden seats, meme things that block your view and stands that are falling apart because "muh history".
>>69536531
>Fenway and Wrigley
confirmed for never having been to either
>>69512082
The only thing I'd probably take exception to is the no rivals thing. Other than that, you hit the nail on the head. Fuck basebore.
>>69536550
Funny you say that, last time I've been to Wrigley was literally a week ago when I took a trip to Chicago. It's utter garbage, I find the Sox stadium much better even though it's in the middle of a ghetto.
But yeah you're right that I've never been to Fenway and just going off of what other people told me.
>>69526983
They've actually addressed this and I think it's gotten a bit better.
>>69536570
You're a retard.
>>69536291
I think it more triggers Pacos and Urban "yutes" than anything.
>>69536570
>lying on the Internet
Wew lad
>>69536637
t. buttblasted Cusbfag
>>69536641
Is it really hard to cope with the fact your stadium is Africa tier? Also thanks to that stupid hipster neighborhood getting built before cars existed there is no fucking place to park.
>>69508839
Let me try....
Bryce Harper
Aroldis Chapman
Adrian Gonzalez
uh.... C.C Sabathia?
Homer ... Bailey?
>>69536656
>stupid hipster neighborhood getting built before cars existed there is no fucking place to park
>he actually drove to the stadium
we know you're lying, but you clearly are retarded
>>69527231
People have been saying baseball is dead since Connie fucking Mack was managing kek
>>69536676
Yes silly me, I should've trusted the CTA and travel with all the crackheads that use it.
>>69536699
how about stop being a degenerate fat fuck and walk to the stadium?
or take a cab
or take the red line
but no, you'd rather be a typical amerilard and drive your expedition right up to the gate
>>69536691
The same with boxing, people have been saying how boxing is on its deathbed ever since the 90s and predicting that the UFC will overtake it in no time, well while boxing is nowhere near as popular as it once was, memeshit like UFC still can't even remotely compare.
>>69536724
>Cusb bandwagoner from Obeseville Iowa calling anyone fat
jejs were had
>>69527644
Trout Miguel Cabrera Nelson cruz
>>69536738
no.. i live in old town
come fight me right now bitch nigga
>>69536724
Virtually all stadiums I've seen have a parking lot / garage right across the street from them.
>>69536751
k? nice blog post
>>69536691
A lot these "millennials" on here don't realize that their taste will change as they get older and might just well move onto baseball when they realize how flawed and shitty of game Apehoop is after the fun factor of "sick dunks" and step back 3s wears off.
We all had our apehoop phase.
My dad could tell you every world series winner ever and in how many games and winning pitchers and shit no one else would know of course he is a boomer.
>>69536761
>move onto baseball
keep dreaming granpappy
>>69536755
Hence if your stadium doesn't provide that it's pretty much 3rd world.
>walk to the stadium Amerilard xD
This is America, people use cars, deal with it. Move to Europe if you want to ride your communal donkey to the stadium on a cobbled street and show everyone how cultured are.
>>69536784
>pretty much 3rd world
>having a functioning mass transit/rail system is 3rd world
top keke.. burbafat anons from flyover shithole cities ruined by urban sprawl should really not post here
>>69536802
>Chicagoan talking trash about other cities when it comes to urban sprawl
Top lel. Chicagoland is literally urban sprawl: the metro.
>>69536820
lol
but people actually live in the city here in chicago.. unlike your shithole.. lemme guess, st louis? kc? cincy?
as if theres any difference lel
>>69536836
You hear even people from Gary Indiana say how they're "from Chicago", that's how massive the fucking sprawl is.
>>69536847
"ok"
>>69536862
I live in australia, don't watch boreball, and could probably name 5 hitters in the nats line up
>>69517805
Getting this insecure
>>69526378
Tennis is extremely popular in europe
t. no clock
Your face when based Berman covers football, baseball, hockey, and golf but has actively avoided anything basketball for his entire broadcasting career.
>>69536972
>Berman
>based
>>69536982
underage pls go
berman may be a babbling senile lardass now but he was literally the goat during ESPN's golden era
kys
>>69536784
>Move to Europe if you want to ride your communal donkey to the stadium on a cobbled street and show everyone how cultured are
I keked
>>69536784
>>69537145
nice post samefag
nobody cares
Here's a picture of your average basebore fan.
>>69537160
Obviously you do faggot. I don't even care about the conversation, I just thought that was funny. Maybe you should cry more
>>69526893
Fuck off edgelord
>>69537206
>you(You)
>>69537642
What?
It's a symbol of the sport slowly dying. It's happening with cricket in anglo countries too. Up until NZ's fluke meme success in the cricket world cup absolutely no one here knew any of the major players except the old guys.
Same in england, they have one of the most marketable teams currently around, and yet general plebs will know more about Kane and Vardy than Root or Broad, even though the football team sucks and the cricket team is their best in years.
>>69508839
Television was invented and became ubiquitous to life. More visually exciting sports flourished while boreball declined. The only reason it was ever popular was because it is the perfect sport to listen to on the radio or read about in the papers.
What is this shit. Baseball is still popular. It's just there's 162 games so interest tends to wane July-August
>>69525527
This DESU. Kershaw is one of the top 10 pitchers today but his team will still miss the playoffs due to shitty run support and the other 4 starting pitchers are bad
>>69527070
the (((owners))) dislike that baseball has no salary cap but the average jew I know loves baseball and GOATS like Coalfax and Pederson
>>69511860
>not having MLB first pitch app open
>not tracking all the advanced stats pitch by pitch
>>69527337
>>69527408
MLB teams also play an average of 4 weekday games and 2 weekend games every week so that dips attendance down compared to the NFL with only 8 home games a year
It makes the sport cheap as fug to attend with $8 bleacher seats though
>>69511990
probably the giants since they were suffering during her time
>>69512082
>hating on cub bro
also people literally got brain damage due to fights from the dodgers giants rivalry
>>69514137
>implying spics outbreeding whites dont also amo el beisbol
Why the fuck is baseballs so goddamn triggering for some faggots? Why the fuck is the least cancerous, least meme filled general full of posts trying to prove that baseball is dying even when it is not. Those fat fuck baby boomers aren't attending games, they're too lazy and they have a doctor's appointment the next day.
shitposting is the new American pastime
>my thread is still alive two days later
>it's 99% shitposting
thanks, guys
>>69540317
>doyers
>yankees
The two richest teams in baseball aren't even going to make the playoffs lol
>>69539890
>so interest tends to wane July-August
So interest wanes when baseball is literally the only major sport on tv?
>>69546937
august is the most important month in baseball. i would say interest probably wanes a few weeks after opening day when the season is still very young and the NBA playoffs are happening. then it picks up in the summer, baseball is a summer sport.
>>69546913
Isn't that every thread?
Anyway, just because YOU aren't interested in baseball, doesn't mean there's no interest.
>>69546929
Makes me rock hard desu
>>69512082
suck it bro I still cant wait until friday night. there is, and always will be die hard ball fans.
>baseball has been around since before the Civil War
>lol it's totally dying
It's just a great chill time to watch, either at the park or on TV. I know the millennials are used to the fast-paced world of the internet, & the instant gratification of video games, but here's the thing: Even millennials will one day be 40, and baseball will be here waiting, when your shitty kids tell you how stupid pokemons are, and how it's "old people shit."
>>69547679
This.
I bet that guy you're replying to complains that blowjobs take too long, too. What an asshole.
>tfw 4chan died when torres memed
>tfw there won't even be a sticky for when the cubs break the curse
feel badman
>>69547762
I pray to the sweet lord the cubes never win, at least not during my lifetime
>>69527664
CF: name has something to do with fish, hes a good young player.. i should be able to think of this
LF: no idea
RF: no idea
SS: not a chance
2B: not a chance
3B: not a chance
1B: not a chance
C: nope
DH: lol
>>69536891
the fuck would you even bother to go?
ITT: Amerifats argue how dead is an irrelevant dead sport.
You know what fucking disappeared from American pop culture?
Fucking hockey.
>>69547692
>I know the millennials
I honestly think the idea that millennials don't like baseball is way overstated. You'll often see this graph posted as "evidence" that the youth are abandoning baseball (and softball), but you'll see that participation has declined by the same rates in basketball and soccer.
Or someone will post that ESPN poll, which lists pro soccer as the 2nd favorite sport of kids aged 6-17, but ESPN polls are always worldwide.
And yeah, baseball is a sport you start appreciating more as you get older (older millennial myself).
>games take 3-4 hours
>most of that time is the players milling around
>not even stuff that can be construed as interesting, like a football team lining up and changing plays. It's the pitcher doing his OCD routine, the batter doing his OCD rountine, then the pitcher staring in for the pitch, then they just hold like that so the batter gets uncomfortable and calls time out, then repeat...
>actual play takes less than a second on average. 4-5 seconds is the long end.
>more ad breaks than any other sport
>most sanctimonious fanbase with all their stupid "unwritten rules" and bitching about the "purity" of the game while defending the biggest cheaters in sports
It's just bad. Bitch about hockey and basketball all you like, at least those are near continuous runs of play.
>>69508839
American football and the NFL happened.
Regardless, baseball and MLB aren't going anywhere. It's the ultimate casual spectator sport.
And with all the new information about concussions and CTE, american football may not dominate forever. Smart parents of athletic children will encourage them to pursue less damaging sports.
>>69548033
>more ad breaks than any other sport
Wrong, Paco (or Jamal).
>>69547981
The mighty ducks were the last bastion of hockey on American pop culture
>>69510022
This. I remember reading an article about some young MLB guy who doesn't watch baseball games because they're too boring. He said he loves to play it, but can't bring himself to sit through watching one
I imagine it's the same thing with soccer
>>69548033
>at least those are near continuous runs of play.
Continuous runs of play doesn't mean good.
Basketball's scoring is repetitive, tension-less and feels meaningless until the last half of the 4th, at which point takes an hour to play because of all the called time outs.
Basketball roster building is also a complete joke, with how much impact a single player can have.
Hockey is fun, but every goal being worth the same and scoring being restricted to one type of play (player hitting the puck into a net) makes it a bit less interesting than baseball's scoring dynamic..
>>69548033
>basketball
>continuous runs of play
....?
the last five minutes of a basketball game are notoriously unwatchable because every team has 17 time outs each
bigger court, running clock and basketball would be good
>>69548224
I'm a big basketball fan, but its game design is kind of shitty. especially with regard to creating tension.
Scoring isn't at a high premium until the 4th. And no time beforehand do you feel, as a fan, could this be it? "We're only down 5 in the 3rd. Still plenty of time!" And yeah, an invested fan will always be tense, but for non-invested fans wanting drama, basketball doesn't get interesting til late in the 4th, and only if it's a 1-5 possession game.
In hockey, football, and baseball one score can be enough to win the game, which essentially turns every period, quarter, and inning into a de facto 4th quarter.
>tfw your country will never play baseball
>>69548361
i know anon, i actually like basketball as a game but it's as if the rules are set up to make it as excruciating as possible and take everything interesting out of it. it's an attractive game to outsiders but man
i think bigger court/running clock solves a lot of issues and makes things like stamina, vision, and concentration far more important than they are now
>>69547981
Hockey was never part of American pop culture though, it's always been that weird niche sport that only Canadians and Minnesotans really cared about
>>69548468
Games turn into free throw competitions in the final minutes too.
>>69508839
Honestly when they took the 'roids out. Folks were living the HR chases, now it's boring.
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