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What the fuck, France?
>>69399427
post the wiki link pls
Why is the total attendance for baseball so high?
>>69399544
>2,430 games
>>69399544
Look at how many games they have played.
>>69399544
MLB is huge in the US, baseball is the second most popular sport after football and way ahead of basketball and ice hockey.
>>69399427
>below the indian league
HAHAHAHA
>>69399427
who said we were a football country?
The richest rugby league is in France.
>>69399427
>Bundesliga: 43k average per game
>PL: 36k
ahahahahaha
>>69399658
It's more southern France which likes its rugby is it not?
Heavy taxes will do that to you.
for a player to be paid 200k a month, clubs have to spend another 200k to the government
making it impossible to compete with other leagues in term of salaries
so no more good players
except if you have unlimited funds like PSG
>>69399612
Attending a baseball game is similar to going out to a movie or bar. I cannot stress to you enough that it is NOT a sporting event. It probably should not be on this list.
>>69399676
No.
>>69399658
>The richest rugby league is in France.
How do you measure this?
>>69399707
baseball haters are so cringe
>>69399717
by looking at wikipedia
>>69399707
sorry to hear your dad didn't love you
>>69399717
Wages probably.
>>69399674
Higher population, larger stadiums and much lower ticket prices
>>69399427
Does ice hockey have a higher attendance than basketball?
>>69399761
Link? I can't find it.
>>69399761
England and France should be 1 country tBh. You're pretty similar in many ways
>>69399766
average attendance has nothing to do with higher population
>>69399777
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue
>>69399767
They are almost identical.
>>69399716
ayy, but the vast majority of the clubs are located mid to southern France. Similar to rugby league in England, most of teams are in the midlands or the north
>>69399807
if only the vatican was more interested in football, they could easily have 15 thousand at each game
>>69399802
Delete this.
>>69399850
> if only the vatican was more interested in football
>>69399544
They play several games a week senpai
>>69399802
They tried once, didn't really take.
>>69399848
Last champion is Racing 92, from Colombes, near Paris.
>>69399707
>>>nearly 74 million people attended MBL games in 2015
http://www.baseballpilgrimages.com/attendance/major-league-2015.html
haters should go...
>>69399427
>football country
Nobody in their right mind ever said that about France.
That said, you're comparing a country of 70M to a country of 300M.
>>69399838
yes yes, well done, England, well done, England
HOWEVER
>>69399900
Some northern scum broke through? You can't let this happen.
>>69399951
That's what money does to a sport.
Amateur rugby is still overwhelmingly Southern.
>>69399838
I don't even know how our league manages to generate 56 millon per club with such shitty attendance and TV ratings.
>>69400042
I don't know, ask Serie A.
>>69400202
>Serie A
Mafia.
>>69399745
i dont hate baseball amigo. i live in chicago and go to cubs games all the time thru work. its fun as fuck but no one watches or cares about the team besides holding up "W" signs and talking about "the curse". it aint no gd sport
>games every day, even on weeknights when people have work the next morning
>literally only 3 teams of 30 draw less than 20k a match on average, better than all of france on saturday afternoons when nobody has anything else to do
pathetic
and attendance has been growing in baseball, its not just old people. it's the number 2 sport and will be back to number 1 once american football is either banned or becomes so lame due to safety rules that people stop caring
>>69400302
> no one watches or cares about the team
of course cub "fans" don't. your only exposure to the sport takes place in wrigleyville, you know nothing of which you speak
france stadiuns are not that big.
>>69400270
you just answered yourself
>>69399674
Some EPL stadiums are tiny as hell, a lot are old as hell as well. Also ticket prices in the EPL are stupid so you don't get full attendance in all games especially if the team is playing badly (i.e Villa last season)
>>69399427
A few things :
>France has a much smaller population, 7 million people here is a lot when in the USA,it's a niche
>large stadiums in France are smaller than average stadiums in the USA, with only 4 that have a capacity of more than 50 000. Not to mention a good half of Ligue 1 teams come from smaller cities with smaller infrastructure
>it's also mostly followed on TV anyway
>>69400389
Germany also has standing areas which fits more people in. Need to do it over here.
>>69400355
By european standarts this is not small.
>>69400435
Didn't Old Trafford use to have a standing area? I think its a requirement now by the Government or the FA for all stadiums to be all-seaters over here.
>>69400460
Mate, three fourths of them have less than 40 000 seats, of course you won't have huge attendance numbers with that.
If you really want to get an idea of the popularity of the sport, look at the TV audimat during important games on public channels.
what's the matchday revenue like for french clubs? it's pretty shitty that they can't match clubs from other countries in the big 5. their broadcasting money is shit too: i think a lot of their ligue 1 matches are free to air. like, what the fuck? sort your fucking life out, france!
>>69400504
>I think its a requirement now by the Government or the FA for all stadiums to be all-seaters over here.
After Hillsborough yeah. They've been talking about introducing safe-standing for a few years though.
>>69399427
>Bish Bash League
lol what the fuck kind of name is that?
>>69400523
>i think a lot of their ligue 1 matches are free to air
Some of them are available on free, public TV rather than cable because broadcasting them is seen as a public service and every citizen has the right to follow them without paying for it outside of taxes.
Most of it used to be on Eurosport and is now on qatar TV though.
>>69399948
>including bundesliga's one win in 15 years like you're relevant
hilarious
>>69399544
A lot of games, and the quality difference of live vs recorded is significant.
>>69399427
>Dat steady boreball/pakipaddle consistency even though the populations of those countries are so different
>>69399427
What ? Could be worse. Our national league sucks anyway, since we serve as a formation center for our neighbours.
France isn't a football country
>>69400767
This desu. In Europe there's England, Spain, Italy, Germany at the top, and then the rest.
France is similar to Netherlands I guess, with the difference being that our NT won most of its finals.
>>69400767
It is in that the sport is extremely popular and has been for decades despite both NT and clubs underperforming, and most of our top players leaving the local league.
>>69399427
>Monaco
>>69401065
lel, the most plastic of all the plastic clubs. Stadium is always empty and most of the "supporters" aren't local.
Even with the money they have it still surprises me every time a good foreign player signs there, who the fuck wants to play in an empty stadium every other weekend.
>>69401120
There also aren't that many Monaco locals
>>69400767
Yes, we love many sports such as Rugby, Basket, Tennis, Cycling, Handball, etc.
Football is just one of them, but the retarded OP didnt realise that.
>>69400620
At least we had people from our country in the winning team.
>>69399903
>74 million people
74 million attendees
>>69401120
>who the fuck wants to play in an empty stadium every other weekend
People who want to live in Monaco?
>>69401140
Yeah, it's a really artificial club.
>>69401174
Although we're not a football country, football is still the #1 sport by far here.
It doesn't have huge attendances because it's only loved by the low class who can't afford tickets (France = low pay + high costs of living), and can't afford a car to go to the stadium either. Same thing in Italy, who has weak attendances too.
Also the games in Ligue 1 are terrible and unexciting, who right in his mind wants to spend a big part of his mediocre wage to see Lorient-Angers or Caen-Guingamp?
>>69401324
Hey man, Lorient plays a pretty decent football. But it's true we have a lot of bus parking teams and less goals on average than other good leagues.
>>69401324
They banned all the away supporters (Paris, Lyon, St Etienne, Marseille, Bastia, etc.) It doesn't help for the attendance.
>>69401324
>Lorient-Angers
Actually two of the most interesting teams of the season.
>>69401413
Makes sense when you look at all the retardation that went on in the mid 2000s and the "golden age" of the OM/OL/PSG rivalries that ended in shitty behavior from all sorts of retarded fans. This sort of thing also didn't help to make the average Jean-Pierre wanting to go to the stadium instead of watching the game in his living room with his buddies.
>>69399658
absolutely not just check the audience of France/Germany almost 20M viewers
>>69401488
Yeah but these are people who only watch the Euro and world cup, and only when the NT performs well.
>>69401518
who gives a fuck about rugby outside of a world cup ?
>>69401488
>richest rugby league in the world is top 14
>Huurr there was 20M viewers for france germany
your point is?
>>69401542
I don't know, southerners I guess. I never watched a single game of rugby, not even international.
>>69401547
rugby is the 2nd most important sport in france way behind football
delusional rugbyfag
>>69399427
might aswell stay at home to watch the ligue 1 senpai.
>>69401570
>that reading comprehension
>>69401324
> France = low pay + high costs of living
Arlette, please.
Also, Ligue 1 is clearly not as bad as people say. There is a lot of self-deprecation because for some reason French people always want to complain.
>>69401578
>controle des dommages
>>69401623
He didn't compare it to football, he said it was the richest rugby league in the world. Fucking illiterate.
Holy shit, 18 consecutive french posts, we're invading /sp/ lads
>>69401542
People in the south-west and in Clermont-Ferrand.
Note how a lot of cities that have good rugby teams also have abysmal football teams. Top 14 doesn't have as large an audience as the Ligue 1, but the few people who really follow it are very dedicated, much more than you average football club supporter.
>>69401542
The 6 Nations tbqh.
>>69401606
Ligue 1 isn't as bad as people who never watched a single game of it say, that's for sure.
But it's also definitely inferior to the top leagues in Europe, in good part because of the lower financial power which makes the best players leave at the end of every season.
>>69401699
>6 weeks of great weekend games at comfy afternoon hours and evening
>mad /sp/ bant all tournament long
>yearly international competition
6 Nations season, the most wonderful time of the year.
>>69399427
French football fans themselves never stop saying that France isn't a football country and that only suddenly cares about it when the national team does well in tournaments.
>>69401770
that's why the word "footix" exists.
>>69401713
This. If we could keep our young talents in Ligue 1 its attractivity would skyrocket. But they all go grab a big paycheck on the english benches.
>>69401271
Monaco is too expensive a city for low-class football fans. Richer folks don't care about it that much.
>>69400302
The only fanbase that would call a baseball game "like going to a movie or bar" is Cubs fans.
Every other team's stadium is filled with people who are there to watch the sport.
INDIAN CRICKET IS ABOVE BIG BLACK LEAGUE
HAHHAHAGAH
>>69401825
>Doha Saint-Germain inflating the salaries might be a necessary evil to make the Ligue 1 competitive again and avoid our national players leaving the country
>>69401863
Nice try, but I'm a Lyon fan.
>>69399593
>>69399602
>>69399877
>>69400667
It should be said that the fact that baseball has such a long season with so many games (162 games a year per team) and still manages to pull a 30k average attendance is super impressive.
>>69401920
Does the PSG even have fans outside of Paris now? They used to be everywhere ten years ago.
At least, in all towns that did not have a team in L1
>>69401946
I think PSG has more fans abroad than in province. Marseille is probably the club with the most fans outside of their city.
>>69401768
I feel it m8.
If you added college football, the 14-team SEC averaged 78,630 last season.
Four of those teams averaged over 100,000:
>Texas A&M 103,622
>LSU 102,004
>Alabama 101,112
>Tennessee 100,584
>>69401713
>But it's also definitely inferior to the top leagues in Europe
No one in this thread said otherwise.
The quality of Football actually doesnt matter that much. Our problem is in our youngest generations, who follow the cult of popularityinstead of the cult of the club, like in Spain, England, Italy and even Germany.
Take MSN out of Barca, you'll get a lot less of tourists into Nou Camp for sure, but the Socios won't leave.
Here, except maybe for the supporters of the top teams, no one cares about the teams, thats why we have A FREAKING LOT of yougsters who are into football, but are supporting fucking Real, Barca or Arsenal instead of French teams. They're doing with because they grew up free of any tie with their local teams. And as long as we're going to let that cuck mentality slide, Ligue 1 will be irrelevant.
>>69402024
and those are tiny little towns with small ass populations, yet they are able to fill fuckhuge stadiums once a week
Yet these frenchies struggle to get 30k people in major cities to attend a match in their no. 1 sport. Sad!
>>69402062
Yeah, like how Ann Arbor is a suburb clinging on to civilization outside of the apocalyptic ruin that is Detroit, and they manage to get find, on average, 110,000 people to show up to every game.
>>69402062
Paris had over 40k on average last season. The numbers are for the entire league, which includes some pretty small cities, and a bunch of stadiums that can't even house enough people to reach the average league attendance.
>>69402062
Honestly, it might have to do with the fact that one specific league is getting all the focus and that one league has been dominated by a handful of teams for nearly 20 years now.
In a sense the american system of geographic conferences is very clever.
Ligue 2 is seen as largely irrelevant, which is understandable, and Ligue 1 has a large gap between the high budget teams that can afford the best players and smaller teams that have to do with the players they formed for the most part.
However a success story can change thing. I live in Angers and the Angers SCO climbing from L2 to L1 and then doing well in the season really refueled the interest for the team and the sport here, which is great. but it's not enough to beat the sort of cynicism of many fans who know that whatever happens in the season, there are really just four teams that will end up ebing capable of winning, and it has been even more unfair since the PSG has increased its budget and has been stomping all over the competition.
>>69402026
I just wish your stadiums weren't so poorly lit.
I try to watch Ligue 1 on occasion on BeIN but Jesus Christ every night game looks like it's taking place in the back of a movie theater.
Ligue 1 isn't competitive in the slighest since the oil overlords took over, why should anyone care?
>>69402120
>small Amercian cities have no problem filling 100,000
>small French cities can barely manage decent crowds
>>69400618
> Qatar tv
>>69402180
well, some people had hopes when some other teams were bought out by russians or chinese moguls.
It didn't change a damn thing.
Is France losing interest in Semen Slurp?
Bravo!
Stick to a real sport like Rugby.
>>69402221
ayy
>>69401606
Go to any decent foreign country. Cost of living is similar to Paris, but wages are much more important.
2500 euros per month is considered "good" here. In USA, Switzerland, Australia, Denmark, Singapore, Norway, Canada... it's considered poverty-tier.
We're getting fucked and you think it's commie delusion to say it.
Regarding Ligue 1, it's very defensive and not too enjoyable to watch.
>>69402221
Not really. And rugby is only really popular in the south.
>>69402192
Not funny. Go fuck yourself.
>>69402192
At least it's not as bad as Russia, where even Moscow teams can barely fill 50% of their stadiums.
>>69402242
Jesus Christ. It must be terrifying to cheapshot a guy that hard in his ear and he only stumbles back one step. What happened after this?
>>69402395
He probably hit back, then the ref came running and told them both to kindly fuck off.
Usually that's enough because rugbymen seem to respect refs, unlike grassdivers. But it's in Australia so you never know, maybe they pulled their pocket snakes and murdered each other.
>>69402242
Rugby can attract its fair share of autists, especially kickers.
>>69402490
>wilkinsontakingapoo.jpg
Basic economics:
>the average Ligue 1 fan is a poorfag on minimum wage
>he earns $1,600 per month
>rent is $1,200 for a cramped studio (Paris)
>he's supposed to face all other expenses with $400 (utilities, food, bus card, etc.)
>WHY OH WHY DOESN'T SPEND $50 OR $80 TO SEE A FOOTBALL GAME???
>>69402890
every other country seems to get their working class plebs inside stadiums
>>69403032
there are every year fewer popular working class clubs in europe playing at high level, they are quite an endangered species.
Dortmund, Marseilles or Liverpool are not the norm.
>>69403135
good, the working class is scum anyway
>>69403135
>Saint-Etienne will never be great again
>>69403032
In "every other country", rent doesn't eat up 50% to 75% of your fucking wage.
France is a country where the young work like slaves (and must consider themselves happy to have work, even with a degree) and live in literal misery to finance to lifestyle of their 65-year-old landlord (who had it really good when he was young btw).
>>69403213
the UK has a pretty similar situation though, with London being even more expensive than Paris is.
>>69403292
Just London, not the whole UK.
The difference is that it's easy to get an okay-paying job in London. In Paris, it's complicated to have a mere job (I MEAN A PAID ONE).
We are the best and we don't even care lol
>>69402490
is this the zaza of rugby?
Ligue 1 is shit and France isn't an as big football country as it was
>>69399544
Baseball is a good excuse for americans to gorge themselves with processed meat products. They dont actually watch the games
Does anyone remember ligue1fag?
To be honest, I wouldn't go to football if I was French either.
>Options for a Saturday afternoon if you are British
Getting drunk in a dark pub then having your head smashed by a chav
Eating a plate of soggy toast with baked beans whilst getting a blowjob from an STD infected Lithuanian hooker
Getting beaten by your coal miner dad for learning Ballet
Finding Polish people and shouting that you voted to have your country back then beating them
Going to watch football
>Options for a Saturday afternoon if you are German
Getting drunk in Oktoberfest whist your girlfriends vagina is smashed by a refugee
Eating a plate of soggy sauerkraut with currywurst whilst getting a blowjob on Prostitution Simulator 2016
Getting sternly spoken to by your factory owning dad for wasting company resources
Finding Turkish people and buying kebabs from them
Going to watch football
>Options for a Saturday afternoon if you are French
A bike ride along the French Riviera
Visiting a wonderful Patisserie and eating croissants, Mille Feuille and Pain Au Chocolat
Baking wonderful bread with your beautiful girlfriend
Enjoying a wine and cheese board atop your Parisian balcony
Attending one of many hundreds of high end fashion events
Visiting a world famous art gallery
Attending a world class theatre in a secure building
Creating the greatest Empire the world has ever seen and repeatedly humiliating your island monkey enemies whilst doing so
Playing an accordion to a world class standard
Writing poetry in the worlds most powerful and versatile language, French
Going to a tiny football stadium to sit next to Leicester City scouts to watch a bunch of Senegalese immigrants kick a ball around for the right to be signed by PSG
France is too good for our sport
