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>spencer pratt
Glad that I don't watch this 'sport' anymore.
>>69081106
>that fatass can sprint faster than 40% of divegrass players over a 40 yard stretch
>>69081106
Too much ass
>>69081152
yeah nah
BIG
>>69081106
>still a better athlete than anyone on 4chan
>>69081152
kek, 40 percent of divegrass players can't run and/or don't have to.
>baww this fatass can run more than a minor percentage of divegrass players
>these covering CBs, holding midfielders and static centreforwards don't have to run or are too old for that though
>i-isn't that impressive?
kek, can't make this shit up
>>69081152
>
hahaha shit you are sad, this delusion
what do these guys train anyway? How to smash dummies more effectively? How much training does that take?
THICC
look at all that man meat
>>69081106
His job is to be a moving human wall to go against other human walls
Making fun of him is like making fun of a sumo wrestler, it's kinda pointless
>>69081152
Yep.
>Vince Wilfork 40 yard: 5.08 seconds
>The lean, shredded, greatest povertyball athlete the world has ever seen Ronaldo's 40 yard dash time: 4.7 seconds.
>Wilfork vert: 26"
>Ronaldo vert: 30"
And I bet Ronaldo's arms would snap if he tried to throw up a 500lb bench press like Wilfork.
>my job is to stop this guy from going around/through me in a 5-square-foot area
RIP me
>>69081106
>chicanos
>>69081152
every single time lmao
>>69081152
>Ameriblobs
And someone like Rob Gronkowski completely destroys Fagnaldo is pretty much every athletic trait you can think of aside from muh stamina.
>40 yard
Gronk: 4.61
Ronaldo: 4.7
>Vert
Gronk: 35"
Ronaldo: 30"
>Strength. Obviously in favor of Gronk.
To be fair to Fagnaldo, we have no way to compare their lateral quickness.
And Gronk is 6'6", 260lb.
>>69081327
Nope. making fun of him is a reminder that burgerball is a dumb sport in wich one-sided individual performance matters more than anything.
How much distance does he cover in an average game? I'm pretty sure he needs mostly huge burst.
>>69081550
Basically American athletes are the type that are good in all aspects of physical fitness where as divegrass players can only trot and jog for an hour and a half
>>69081592
lel handegg players would be gassed after 10 minutes if they tried playing actual football
>>69081569
>He doesn't enjoy the strategic value of a sport with specialized positions like human chess
Guess your brain's just too small, huh Pierre?
>everyone ITT using TSUnaldo as the best benchmark for a good footballer
kek
He has been crap for a few years now,and was never intended to be a good runner in the first place anyway.
>>69081635(you)
>>69081634
>implying being human ches would be a good thing
That's precisely what makes handegg so boring. every player having only one or two supposed tasks makes the overall strategy predictable, all that remains are individual moments of throws, tackles and runs while doing a military salute.
0 strategic value, it's human tic-tac-toe.
>>69081592
Pretty much.
>>69081217
>he is a better athlete than someone who isn't an athlete
>>69081692
>Never heard of the wildcat meme
>Ameridonalds
>>69081152
>try to defend vice wilfork
>I know, I'll say he is faster than soccer players
You could have talked about strength or something m8
>>69081550
>pretty much every athletic trait you can think of
>no stamina
ok
>not taking into account technique
ook
>>69081692
>So how difficult is it to truly master an NFL playbook? According to Redish, “it’s like trying to play a musical instrument that’s scheming against you.”
http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2014/08/04/how-difficult-it-memorize-nfl-playbook-neurologist-explains
And these players spend as much time watching film as they do practicing. And a QB like Peyton Manning will watch 40 hours of film per week.
> He pores over game film and not just the usual film from an opponents’ last few games. He will reach back years to draw on something.
Soccer is like the fingerpainting of sports. All based primarily around "childlike" improvisation. It's why the 3rd world gravitates toward it, and why the results are highly luck based (a team can dominate possession and shots on goal and still lose on a flukey goal).
>>69081793
Fuck i'm hungry
>>69081626
and divegrass players would die if they tried to play American football
whats your point?
>>69081795
>not taking into account technique
This.
This is why Italy is walking all over the euro as we speak.
Good technical players beat individual performers easily, especially in football. That's why Germany shat on Brazil and Argentine in the last WC to.
>>69081848
that they are not superior in every physical aspect you dumb ameridumb
>>69081815
>Amerifat "athletes" train by watching movies
top kek you can't make this shit up
I don't think its fair to compare any human being to Gronk
>>69081692
If u know so much about football strategy why don't u explain to everyone each formation and how and when to use it
Yuropoors forget linemen are pro athletes, not your average fat fucks. They have massive strength and incredible bursts of speed for their size.
The only athleticism required in soccer is the ability to jog/stand around for 90 minutes
>>69081106
VERY fast amerilard running at incredible hihg speed
>>69081106
the literal point of him being a fatass is being able to be a moving train. He can still run faster, hit harder, etc. than athletes from other sports
>all these Americucks so quick to defend their big fat niggers
>>69081920
Being able to see your dick is also a requirement
>>69081951
for like 2 seconds, so long as he gets his commercial breaks between each play
>>69081920
>The only athleticism required in soccer is the ability to jog/stand around for 90 minutes
what's funny is that amerilards literally and unironically believe this
>>69081969
I'm not saying you are wrong, but have to go back anyway, you disgusting chicano.
There is no Murican athlete more alfa then this boy
>>69081106
>implying he wouldn't fuck you up.
>>69081550
>american athletes
>white
stop deluding yourself.
>>69081330
>Ronaldo
>4.7
Holy shit are soccer players really this slow?
>>69081969
They have to defend ther wives' sons' fathers
>>69081951
Please realize that muscles are heavier than fat and provides more speed and stamina
>>69081868
they are overall better athletes than soccer players yes
>>69081330
i'd thought ronaldo would cover 40 yards in 4.2 seconds at most
>>69081154
what's a matter, don't like Hottentots?
>>69081626
I think their workouts are as demanding as a divegrass match.
>>69082001
What about jj
>>69082050
kek they actually seriously literally believe us
>>69081550
Mirin those natty gains top left.
>>69082059
the point is that the sports are fundamentally different so comparing their physical aspects is just stupid
it's like comparing a 100 meter sprinter to a cycler
>>69081330
Ronaldo usually runs in zigzags though, he's much faster at that.
Try comparing players who actually run in straight lines most of the time. Bale, Robben, Valencia.
>>69082041
It's pretty hard to swell up to 350 lbs with just pure muscle.
>>69081795
>>69081855
>technique
This depends on the position. Some positions like CB, QB or OT are extremely technical while others like NT are not.
>>69081550
If all you Amerifats care about is strength then Europeans are king because they win a majority of the Strongman competitions
>>69081920
You forget that linemen need to skill because all they do is being moving objects
You need to be a fat fuck who runs faster than other fat fucks
You dont even need a properly functioning brain, as soon as someone is able to train monekys so that they perform the simple tasks a lineman does you'll start to see literal apes on the field
>>69081920
>>69082128
*need no skill
>JJ Watt is natty.
>>69082003
Yep.
There was this silly Yuropoor show that "tested Ronaldo to the limit," (the reverent tone throughout it was comical as the Yuro commentator was basically in awe of Ronaldo's 3.61 25m dash time and his 30" running vertical), and from his 25m dash time, it's estimated he would probably run the 40 in about 4.64-4.70 seconds.
>It’s a safe estimate to say Cristiano could run the 40 yard dash between 4.64-4.70
https://xcountrytrackathlete.wordpress.com/2015/09/04/how-fast-could-cristiano-ronaldo-run-the-nfl-40-yard-dash/
Ronaldo's fastest in game speed is 20.87 mph.
> Ronaldo’s top speed, according to FIFA,is 33.6 kph, or 20.87 mph
Here's Mike Trout running faster:
http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v260048283/2015-asg-statcast-tracks-trouts-basestealing-speed
>>69081626
Everyother faggot can pick a ball and play in their Thursday Night amateur soccer leage without doing much else than jogging everyother day, if you try to play american Football at any level of competition without Training 2.5 hours a day everyday you will regret it big time, you really have no idea how physically demanding Football is
>>69082128
Offensive linemen do need skill. If you look at a GOAT like Joe Thomas he's not even the strongest or fattest lineman but his technique (blocking + footwork) is out of this world, not to mention his smarts.
>>69082119
Even goalkeepers are required to have an high level of technique anon, it doesent depend on the role
>>69082178
I don't think you've ever seen someone who has never played football try it for the first time before
>>69082128
>>69082186
Seriously. Look up Jeff Saturday and what an average center's role is in the NFL. It's really fucking cerebral. Knowing what kind of blitz is coming and who to pick up can be difficult.
Meanwhile povertyflop twink manlet players need to run around for 90 minutes and kick a ball into the net. No strategy required.
Do you not see that massive muscular thigh. In a split second burst he'd rape Messi's whole buttcheeks.
>>69082191
In American football it does. Some of the positions are so different from each other they might as well be playing a different sport, nose tackles and cornerbacks are nothing alike.
>>69082128
The offensive Line is by far the most important unit in Football anyone who disagrees obviously knows shit about it and should be quiet
Seriously though, Mt. Wilfork is the wrong one to joke with. The man continues to dominate the largest men on earth on a continual basis.
>Ball sports
>>69082186
Being adept at blocking is not as demanding as being able to control, run and kick with precision a ball with your feet only
It requires much more training simply because it is less instinctive
It's a complex task that requires continous control of your body, the ball and at the same time awareness of what's going to happen around you
On top of that you dont stop every two minutes for commercials, so come on
>>69082191
>fall over with your arms extended and hope you guessed correctly
>high level of technique
>>69081106
i know they are stronger and more athletic than i am, but do nfl fatties longer stamina than i do
>>69082230
Offensive linemen and centers especially are criminally underrated even by many Americans on this board, because most people here experienced football only on high school level where it's pretty much "fattest guy in the trenches wins."
The presnap reads and blocking audibles centers do are often more complex and cerebral than QB's work yet they seem to get no credit.
This is not an excuse to get fat like a pig
>>69082301
>run in a straight line untile you stop something or something stops you
>while occasionally carrying an egg
>high level of technique
>>69082300
Learning to block your opponent without holding him is extremely skill demanding. There's a reason why these guys are the 2nd highest paid position after QBs, they wouldn't be if teams could just pick any random fatass / gym rat off the street.
>>69082093
They're really not much faster. Ronaldo is still the 6th fastest soccer player on Earth.
In the NFL or even in baseball, he would average-to-below average speed.
>>69082238
that tub of lard would fall on his ass trying to catch messi running around him
>but muh strength
>but muh speed
doesn't matter when have the agility of a truck
>>69082300
Two different body types.
Watch footage on John Hannah, unreal man.
>>69082358
forgot pic.
>>69082362
yeah he was great in The Mummy
>>69082097
Excuses, you guys are just not trying hard enough
>>69082388
Oh well nvm then
>>69082360
Wilfork and defensive lineman still need to have reasonable agility to try and limit running backs.
And someone like Barry Sanders would absolutely crucify Messi in any straight agility competition you can think of: shuttle course, zig zag course, cone drill, etc, etc.
>>69082360
He'd snap Messi in half.
>>69082216
Please 90% of people never go beyond empirically learning soccer, meaning going to a park and play with their neigborhood friends, and many people un their 20s and shit still play in amateur leagues without any formal Training, those things simply cannot happen in Football, the required preparation alone should be an indicator of how much more physical and technical it is than soccer
>Human """""""""athletes"""""""""""
>>69082216
Please 90% of people never go beyond empirically learning soccer, meaning going to a park and play with their neigborhood friends, and many people un their 20s and shit still play in amateur leagues without any formal Training, those things simply cannot happen in Football, the required preparation alone should be an indicator of how much more physical and technical it is than soccer
>mildly banterous bait in OP
>thread is full of Ameriblobs talking about how strong and sexy their black athletes are
fucking hell
>>69082459
Winner
>>69082301
>gk requires no skill
There's a reason why Buffon is still dominant at 38 and why keksillas is done at 33
Occasional reminder that football fans are either rednecks and simpletons (both usually).
>>69082458
the ability to precisely kick and control a ball is something that takes practice
a random guy without training would look like an idiot in any league match, no matter how low the level is
>>69082535
Practice usually aquired on an informal setting, besides it really isnt that hard, i can do it and i dont play soccer regularly, learned as a Boy, playing with friends as preetty much everyone else
>>69082611
if it's so easy then why didn't you become a pro?
>White people arguing about which minority produces better athletes
Why do povertyball fans always shift the debate to skill?
We're talking about overall athleticism, and the prevailing, highly retarded, idea among povertyball fans is that fat=unathletic.
When in fact, a lot of these "fatball" players can run as fast and jump as high as any soccer player, despite weighing 150 more pounds on average.
>muh stamina
Yes, soccer players have that obviously, but I could easily reply with muh strength in favor of the linemen.
And the position players who are more similar to soccer players in body type absolutely thrash the elite of the elite soccer athletes (Ronaldo, Bale, Walcott, Sterling in pretty much everything aside from stamina, which they wouldn't even be that much behind in since a lot of NFL players did run track. Also, stamina is the easiest thing to train up. Go to any running forum and see how couch potatoes went from barely being able to walk a mile to running 6 minute miles in a couple of months.
>>69082633
no need to be defensive, we're just making fun of a fat black guy.
REAL SPORTS AREN'T DECIDED BY "ATHLETICISM" YOU FAT CUNTS.
FOOTBALL IS ART IT IS FLUID IT IS BEAUTIFUL. NO ONE CARES THAT MESSI IS SHORT, HE IS A GOD GIVEN TALENT.
>>69082633
>Why do povertyball fans always shift the debate to skill?
Because that's what matters most in football, not overall athleic performance. Footballets are not especially good runners because they don't need to.
A more accurate and interesting comparision in terms of physical skills would be american football and rugby.
>>69082631
>white people
What makes you think I'm white?
>>69082633
>Why do povertyball fans always shift the debate to skill?
because skill is an important factor in football, while in handegg you literally only need to be big and strong
>>69082678
>quarterbacks
>corner
>wide receivers
>"only big and strong"
Please stop talking about sports you know fuck all about.
>>69082388
That's the speed with the ball you retard.
>>69082677
Proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation?
>>69082630
Not him.
He actually didn't do shit, he's just saying crap to impress his internet buddies.
>>69082706
Most Americans on /sp/ are black, this isn't fucking /pol/.
>>69081330
Tfw ur as fast as Ronaldo :D
>>69082676
But this debate usually doesn't center around skill.
The shitpost usually goes like this:
- Yuro (or Mexican living in America) posts pic of fat American NFL player, greentexting American "athletes."
- American enters and shows Yuro that these fatasses are just as athletic as a lot of soccer players.
- Yuro then starts talking about skills, commercials, etc.
>>69082693
>Please stop talking about sports you know fuck all about.
Same to you, mister big black American.
>>69082724
>Ameriniggers
>>69082630
Getting to pro level in any Sport is ridicously hard, that really is not a valid argument, do not hyperbolize your way out of the discussion, sure every profesional soccer player out there worked insanely hard to get to that level, but so did every Football, rugby, basketball or pro ping pong player, point is if i wanted i could join my coworkers Thursday soccer Team like it aint no thing but there are no casual Football teams because its way more demanding
>>69082758
>athleticism is being strong and running fast in a straight line
literally lmao'ing right now
>>69082758
>- American enters and shows Yuro that these fatasses are just as athletic as a lot of soccer players.
This is my favorite part, funny every time.
>>69082694
Oh w8, in soccer they don't carry the ball around with their hands?
Kek amerifats
>>69082799
>athleticism is maintaining a slow jog for 45 minutes
>>69081152
>be american
>be retarded
>be obese
>get shot
>>69082168
>safe estimate
Oh fuck off.
>>69081330
If renaldo is really a 4.7 then he should be embarrassed
>>69082794
you're the one who brought up amateurs in the first place, pablo, and they really don't have any place in this """"""""""""dicussion"""""""""""" about professional sportsmen
>>69082824
>get btfo by facts
>"s-stupid Americans"
lol, I mean I'll take this shit from Europeans that live in functioning countries, but fucking Brazil? You might as well live in fucking Africa.
>>69082841
>one of the best players of his generation should be ashamed because he can't go fast in a straight line
Why should he work on that if he has no need for it? Should a marathon runner be ashamed of not being able to throw a javeline or lift weights?
This sort of speed is pointless in football because you can't go in a straight line in the first place.
It's over. Just Imagine Barry Sanders on the pitch. Our blacks are amazing. Fuck we built our country off them. Appreciate.
>>69082860
>""facts"" by bias Amerinigger media sponsored by Coca Cola®, McDonalds® and Burger King®
>>69082890
>This sort of speed is pointless in football because you can't go in a straight line in the first place.
literally this
it's why players like valencia and walcott are shit 90% of the time
there's a reason why they're called pacebabbies
>>69082904
KEK BTFO
>Christiano Ronaldo's vertical is 30(thirty) inches
Ronnie confirmed for white
>>69082904
>no counter argument
>"B-BIASED"
Explain how.
>>69082904
Get out of my country you fucking leech.
>>69082890
NFL players don't usually just run in a straight line either, it's just a baseline way to test speed.
There are literally university students that are more fit than Ronaldo
>he doesn't accept people no matter their size
sizist shitlord
>>69082900
>Fuck we built our country off them.
>at the height of slavery about 1% of all cotton was gathered by them
>they were replaced by simple machinery
Oh yeah. They built that country alright.
>>69082957
>being offended by people insulting commercials
>>69082859
It all started with you saying nfl players wouldnt last 10 minutes in a futbol Match, and well no you are wrong, if you can play american Football then you can hold yourself just Fine in soccer, cause its simpler Sport, less physically demanding and kicking a ball is not really that difficult you can get a hold of it quite fast
>>69082900
That said, the greatest big man was white & a New England Patriot.
>>69082970
>FSU
is this the american version of TSU?
>>69081106
Look how small his feet are, low arches too
If this is him at his peak he wont make 60
Also why is he completely shaven?
>>69082993
Larry Allen was a million times better than John Hannah.
>>69082957
I will move back to Canada once I have finished my degree. It's so funny that all the stupid students are Amerifats and all the smart ones are foreigners lmao
>>69082974
Yeah I don't know what that dumb nigger is taking about, to the slaves' credit though, they were bred like race horses and show dogs
>>69083013
You won't be able to go back, you'll get apprehended at the border and impaled for not being white.
>>69081692
>every player having only one or two supposed tasks makes the overall strategy predictable
>>69082988
You're kidding. In a competitive match soccer is 90 minutes of low-high intensity workout.
Fatass in OP would get a heart attack.
dumb frogposter
>>69082988
>if you can play american Football then you can hold yourself just Fine in soccer
no, you really can't
even without taking skill into consideration you severaly underestimate the amount of running you do in a pro match, and also keep in mind most of that running is done by sprinting
>>69083010
Strength wise, but Hannah had it all over him in the athletic department. Pull, cut, quick push to the second level. Anything you wanted.
>>69082993
IIRC Bruce Matthews never played for the Patriots.
>>69082970
>that dumb nigger
>a real student
>FSU
>a real university
pick one wew
>>69081912
but soccer players do the same thing nigel. take your proxy off
>>69082993
>greatest big man
>a fucking guard
Nope. OT or nothing.
>>69082904
Don't forget Budweiser, The King of Beers, anon
>>69083084
Maybe in today's passing game.
>>69081330
How long can that diabetesball player keep it up for? Because He sure as hell can't do it many times over a 90, sometimes 120 minute period.
And Football players in a counterattack have to sprint for nearly 70 meters, more than the fatass that will get his feet cut off when he turns 45 years old.
>>69083006
i wish
>>69082964
And again, speed in itself is useless in football. In the sport as it is today, lateral mobility and endurence matter a lot more. A fast player can be useful but he won't get anything done by himself because no matter how fast he is, he'll have to slow down because he'll get marked by three defenders by the time he gets close enough to the penalty box to strike. It can work if you use the sides to istract the defense. that's how the netherland play (with Robben being the runner and striker) or how France did at one point (with Cissé) but it's far from being the most efficient tactic there is.
The reason why skill and other things are brought up when it comes to footballers is because the agility matters much more than speed. Speed doesn't get you rid of two guys stcking to you when you get close to the goat, speed doesn't shoot on target in a spor that the goalkeeper won't be able to put himself into. Running speed is really a lesser element in football.
>>69082988
>if you can play american Football then you can hold yourself just Fine in soccer,
the big problem is endurance. American football players are much more elite in many categories of athleticism but they don't train for marathons, they train for sprints. The lack of endurance is a killer.
>>69082694
Nope. Watch Robben's sprint. He was on a dead sprint (running down the ball) for a good 40 yards.
>>69082931
DAMAGE CONTROL. Soccerfags BTFO
>h-he doesn't NEED to be fast, no soccer player does!
> the field is only 110m, there's no room to run in a straight line
>>69082678
That's the most retarded thing I've heard in a while. You really have no clue what you're talking about.
>>69083052
And a sawker fairy would get his spine snapped like a twig if they tried to block him on the gridiron, what's your point?
>>69083148
Depends on the position.
Imagine running 50 yards full sprint, backwards, sixty to seventy times a game. You are now a defensive back.
why do americans invent all these strange little metrics
why can't they just focus on the skill of the athlete in their sport?
>>69083178
It's actually true, the only time you need to be fast is when you play a quick counter and that doesn't happen that often in the top level, you have no idea what you are talking about, please refrain from talking any further.
Someone wanna post that thick gymnastics chicks pictures from last year?
>>69083206
Both sports require skill
>>69083206
It's Handegg. The greatest sport known to man.
It's basically War the game.
Takes many different weapons to get the job done.
>>69083135
As much as you povertyball fans use muh stamina and I can use muh strength.
>How long would a midget like pic related last on a defense line?
One play and then he's carted off to the hospital.
>>69083171
He run around the defender in the first half and pretty sure it is taken in account only after he did 3 touch.
>>69083209
>the only time you need to be fast is when you play a quick counter
And that's still just relatively fast because you can't overtake the guy with the ball (which isn't running top speed either due to having to handle the ball).
>>69081998
Australia's Brave Christian Vieri
>America
>most Olympic medals by far
>most Olympic golds by far
>Is able to compete at a high level on the world scale in a sport that's probably like, the 7th or 8th most popular sport in the country
>yurop beliveing their top tier athletes can compete with Americas top tier athletes even though literally all evidence points away from that
M-MUH STAMINA. Stamina is not a fucking skill. Any idiot on earth can get in shape and run a marathon after a half a years worth of training.There is nothing athletic about "stamina" unless in relation too a sport like Boxing, where you are actively taking large hits.
>>69083237
"Roid Rage: The Game"
>>69083146
All of that is true of gridiron as well, lateral movement, change of direction, hip/lower body flexibility, etc. are just as important as top-end speed. Just that the baseline for speed is higher in gridiron (on average, obviously not if you're just talking linemen).
>>69082343
> what is stiff arm
> what is spin move
> what is juking
> technical skills all ball carriers should learn
>>69083209
So this proves our point that an NFL lineman are more overall athletic than povertyball players?
All you can really deflect back to is muh stamina, the EASIEST athletic attribute to train up.
>>69083198
if anything 4-3 DEs and 3-4 OLBs probably need the most endurance. They don't cover as much ground as corners but they are constantly switching between grinding with 300 pound men and chasing down ball carriers.
>>69083275
I would argue some soccer players are on the sauce as well.
>>69083206
Handegg at the NFL level requires a much broader range of skills than top level soccer.
>>69083243
Why would you put a fitter person on a defensive line anyway, you would need a mindless tub of lard that can crash into things.
And football won't all retire with horrible brain damage like many handegg players, nor will they die of diabetes 10 years afterwards because they are encouraged to be fat motherfuckers and that will only get worse once they retire.
>>69082970
Shit there's high school kids with far better raw athleticism.
>>69083332
>JJ Watt
>>69083267
>stamina makes you more resistent do damage
>>69083305
They also stop resting every 10s. We're talking of a game with a timed 15 minutes of actual action over three hours.
>>69083227
football has some low skill positions. Running back and WR are positions you constantly see players converted to.
but then you have QB which is a position with such a demand for refined skill and mechanics that teams spend 20 million for guys that can just provide you mediocrity at the position.
Hey hey america look at this Aubameyang is faster than Bolt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZXUse86r1g
No it's not biased at all !
>>69083332
>And football won't all retire with horrible brain damage like many handegg players, nor will they die of diabetes 10 years afterwards because they are encouraged to be fat motherfuckers and that will only get worse once they retire.
Friendly reminder that divegrass has (by far) the highest instance of ALS among retired professionals. All dem flops add up I guess.
>>69083300
I'd like to see the guy in the OP make a clearence like Boateng did in the EC against Ukraine or try to keep up with Messi dribbling past him.
>>69082301
So much this. It's either they have predetermined where to jump or they collapse on the ground trying to block a ground ball even though they go between their legs half the time
>>69083332
>And football won't all retire with horrible brain damage
So this also proves it's a tougher sport?
Not to mention the coaching.
In no other sport does it really matter more than Handegg.
>>69083332
>mindless tub of lard
>>69083376
it's a byproduct of banging your head against a ball and occasionally another head.
parents that are trying to get their kids in soccer because it's safer probably have no idea it's only slightly safer.
>our heavily roided athletes are so much better than yours xD
every tiem
>>69083346
Then if you use JJ Watt as an example, why are there so many players like the one in the OP, and not all of them look like JJ Watt?
He's just an exception, the fact that those fat fucks can play any sport competitively at all is ridiculous.
>>69083332
Putting on fat is an important part of the sport. Think of Sumo Wrestlers and ask why they are fat? It adds weight and leverage to your body, and the body also needs fat if you want to pack on muscle for being ludicrously strong.
I dont think you guys comprehend how absolutely atheltic these "fat" guys are. Vince Wilfork can run a 40 yard dash in 5 seconds. Think about how much energy that he can produce with that much weight and strength.
Also, you guys severely underestimate how incredibly complex Gridiron is. In soccer, the coach is kind of just there to make sure the players play well and to stroke egos, it's similar in a lot of ways to basketball. It's a sport where if you have the best players, you are generally going to win. In football, the coach is the general, and quite possibly the most important person on the team. A good coach can win games with a bad team while a bad coach can lose games for a good team just because of how important the strategy elements are.
>>69083383
And I'd like to see any of those fags get around a 330 lb O Lineman with or without pads
>>69083350
>implying there's 15 minutes of actual action in a 90 minute sawker game
lol, if all that time in between plays, when handegg players are milling about or jogging on/off the field doesn't count, than neither does all that time sawker players spend strolling around the pitch.
>>69083428
>it's a byproduct of banging your head against a ball and occasionally another head.
There is no danger in heading a ball you numbfuck
>>69083428
There's no concrete, known cause, because no one knows exactly what causes ALS. Leading theory is that it's a result of being dehydrated regularly.
>>69083441
>the game plan doesn't matter in sports I don't understand
EVERY TIME
>>69083430
>our
>yours
>>69083321
>>69083237
>I can jump slightly higher than you
You are all such fucking losers it's ridiculous..
>>69083485
my hunch is choline depletion in endurance athletes
>>69083440
Watt is a defensive end, used to rush the QB primarily. Wilfork is a NT, used to clog up blockers & create an impenetrable pile in the middle.
Cortez Kennedy was a great, who recently went into the HoF. He did both. Highly underrated.
>>69083441
>the coach is kind of just there to make sure the players play well and to stroke egos
>I don't know anything about football: The Post
>>69083440
Wilfork isn't a DE end.
JJ Watt is DE/OLB.
>>69083514
All of which play the defensive line.
>>69083440
OP posted a nose tackle, which is the only position where it is practical to be that fat.
Nose tackles mostly have one job: be so big and strong that it takes two people to block you.
>>69081106
The strain that this ridiculous build takes on their body should be respected a bit more. These aren't fatties playing athletes, these are athletes who sacrifice everything for more force so as to compete with the arms race that is the line. They don't get to look good or show off like the other positions and their body ends up more fucked than any other position in the sport once they retire but there is no one else in the world who can do what a lineman does.
>>69083488
Im not implying that game plans dont matter, but the vast difference between soccer and gridiron is astronomical, and the real eye opener is how important the coach is.
Football coaches are probably the most important people for a team. Soccer coaches are just kind of there to make sure egos dont get in the way. It's the same with Basketball, Hockey, other sports that have very complex play structures, but arent really all that complex.
>>69083499
>le 7 putt man
>>69083539
And all of them do different things on the DL.
>>69083209
>>69083252
I guess you're right because anytime there is a break away, the ball handler falls to the ground on first contact with a defender. They don't even try to get around him the just want the free kick
That does not mean being faster than everyone else isn't important at all. That makes 0 sense. Being the first player to the ball is a big advantage, is it not?
>>69081692
>tic-tac-toe
Pic related is an AMATEUR playbook. NFL gets even more complicated.
>>69083348
He doesn't sound like he knows what hes talking about but taking a hit does actually mess with your stamina. Stamina is also important for focusing while you're seeing stars from getting punched over and over, whether its through your guard or not.
>>69083555
>playing sport in america involves getting as fat as possible to have a competitive edge
yep, sounds about right
>>69083440
You said defensive linemen, not just NTs. Face it you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>69083566
>basketball and hockey don't have complex play structures
>only sports I understand well have complex play structures
AS OLD AS TIME
>>69083441
>italy in the european
>absolute shit players
>still winning
>ITT: gringcucks on pooicide watch
KEK
E
K
>>69083440
Different positions, plus JJ Watt is a freak of nature
>>69083440
Because JJ Watt is primarily a defensive end, and thus has a typical defensive end build, since speed is very important at the position.
Wilfork is an interior defensive lineman, a position where bulk is more of a priority.
Watt sometimes plays interior, but he probably wouldn't last a season full time. Ripped looking Arnold Schwarzenegger types would be too small.
>>69081330
>ronaldo runs a 40 in 4.7
I literally run the 40 in 4.7 too, and I haven't been an athlete since high school, thats pretty pathetic
>>69083586
Same principle as sumo or weight lifting.
>yuropoors try to get Americans butthurt
>end up gettinf butthurt themselves
>>69082417
its far easier and you get the result you want with just building a fuckton of muscle and then adding a layer or fat on top for extra oomph
>>69083586
Ya, he's fat, but he's not weak. That's like saying a strong man is just a fat fuck because he has a lot of bodymass.
>>69083376
>ALS is the only kind of brain damage
We don't even know what exactly causes ALS, and there have been people bringing CTE to attention in handegg for a while now, which is caused by smashing your head against solid objects, or just look at the difference on football players retired because of CTE caused by concussions to handegg players retired because of them.
>>69081330
>>69083621
Isn't Ronaldo's 40 time in meters though?
>>69082119
NTs dont just brute strength their way through things my man, each posisition has its own techniques that require alot of practice to become proficient at
>amerifats try to get Europeans butthurt
>end up gettinf butthurt themselves
>>69083441
Not really, no.
that's why Germany is the current world champion and why Portugal, Spain, Argentine and Brazil are often disappointing.
>>69082119
>NT
>not technical
Just stop
>>69081692
>tic tac toe
>nfl
there are plenty of things to criticize about the nfl and watching the games but for the love of god, strategic depth is not one of them
>>69083593
Tell me why Phil Jackson, who was never a good coach was able to win a billion titles.
NFL coaches are way way way more important then any other sports coaches I can think of. I watch a lot of basketball and hockey too ya dingus
>>69081106
You mean the """"sport"""" where an """"athlete"""" can make his entire career WITHOUT touching a ball?
>>69083659
The don't brute strength their way, their job is literally to clog up space, not get to the passer. Anything more than that is just a bonus. They get this fat so the OL wouldn't be able to move them around like rag dolls, that's the whole point.
This is why people who evaluate NT performance by sacks and tackles are utter retards.
>>69083586
Reminder that his man has been the UK's most dominant "sportsman" over the past two decades and makes more money than someone like Aston Eaton.
>>69083579
TBF, that's a D1 College playbook. Amateur, but lots of money riding on the team's success. The coach makes millions, the school makes 10's of millions, off of the team.
>>69082090
anon this is a burger thread. Of course itìs stupid
>>69083710
Darts isn't a sport.
Try harder lad.
>>69083194
Guy's a fatass and would get a heart attack. I thought I made that point rather well.
>>69083700
You might try gay porn if you like people touching balls that much.
>Amerifats
>>69082300
Trying to stop the momentum of a person who is probably faster, stronger, and sometimes just as heavy as you is just as difficult as playing soccer
>>69083514
>>69083547
>>69083588
>>69083619
Then if they play in different positions why bring JJ Watt up at all?
My point is that the fact that someone is this fat, and actually encouraged to be (like players in his position apparently are), and is still somehow a professional athlete in a major American sport, is ridiculous. If you look at any other Major sport in the world besides maybe Basebore, you will never see someone like that.
>>69083720
Pro franchises are worth upwards of a billion dollars
>>69083650
CTE is overblown. It's a big deal because the guys dying from it now didn't know the risks. Players today do know, and they make enough money to get the best medical care. Also, the idea that it's some kind of epidemic is a fabrication. Outside of some long-time NFL players (usually 10+ years), you only find it in cases (with younger players) where their medical situation has been egregiously mishandled in some way. You simply will not get CTE from playing amateur handegg as long as you observe the safety structures that are in place.
& there's different techniques. A 3-4 Defensive end would be different from a Watt like 4-3 defensive end. Likewise, a 4-3 defensive tackle would be different from a Wilfork 3-4 defensive tackle.
Some are talented enough to play across the line, very rare.
>>69081330
4.7? I could run a 4.6 in high school..
>>69083757
Because you're lumping all DLs into one bag, a pass rushing DE is absolutely nothing like a space clogging NT.
>>69081106
>come to 4chan
>see naked niggers
>leave
>>69083761
This isn't remotely as complicated as a typical football play
Definitely more cerebral than 90% of basketball plays though
>>69083747
lol'ed they didn't even put baseball (it's less than 0.4 mile per game)
>>69083747
ameriblobs btfo
>>69083652
Nope. It was projected from his 25m (82 feet) dash time in perfectly controlled laboratory conditions. Ronaldo ran it in 3.61 seconds.
To put that 82 feet time into context, here's Zach Greinke (an "unathletic" 34 year old pitcher) running about the same amount of feet in 3.67 seconds in game, wearing a clunky helmet.
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2016/06/23/185850748
The man came out of college playing around the 340 lb. mark and still ran a 5.08 40 at the combine. I don't get what the whole Yuro argument is about not being an athlete. The sport is designed for short bursts of max power. If your problem is with the structure of the sport thats an entirely valid but seperate argument. The man is an athlete and if you see him bull rush linemen it's obvious.
>>69083794
you've obviously never played organized basketball
http://www.coachesclipboard.net/BasketballOffenses.html
>>69083735
>people who do things proficiently for a long period of time tend to be better at those things than others
Whoa, great point. Really makes you think
>>69083783
No, you couldn't.
>>69083785
My point still stands, there being a position for someone that fat in a major sport is fucking ridiculous.
>>69083775
Then you have tweeners, like Rob Ninkovich for example. He can play 4-3 dfensive end & 3-4 outside linebacker.
>>69083807
Jesus, that's sad
Is Ronaldo known for being a particularly fast soccer player?
>>69083808
it's just banter m8
>>69083808
Well the fact is that the guy is an athletic ubermensch under all of that lard, he's that heavy yet outruns the vast majority of skinny people.
>>69083747
This not even considering the fact that a starting NFL player is gonna play like what, 600 minutes per season? Donaldo has already broken 4600 minutes and he's not even done for the year.
>>69082417
Look up Tyron Smith Dallas cowbooys, that man is 312 pounds of all muscle
>>69083747
> literally jogging around for 2 1/2 hours
This chart just shows why diveflop is so boring
>>69083747
>the purpose of any sport should be to cover the largest possible physical distance
So why follow anything besides death march?
>>69083846
NTs are basically sumo wrestlers while DEs and LBs are more like rugby players.
>>69082360
He would catch and murder Messi
>>69081152
But can he take penalty kicks?
>>69083747
>cardiovascular endurance is the only measure of athleticism
wew lad
>>69083858
Why are you guys so proud of these roided up nigs?
>>69083757
In all honesty, he could stand to lose a few pounds.
>soccer
Stamina
>football
Speed, acceleration, strength, vertical
>>69083603
Nobody is saying that soccer has NO strategy, just that football is ALL strategy ALL the time.
And, because soccer is such a low-scoring game, teams that just play 10-men behind the ball can still eke out wins if the other team doesn't take their chances/they score on a fluke goal.
>>69083824
You're just moving around like 5 dudes, what's the big deal?
>>69083884
Why are you so proud of your scrawny twinks?
>>69083584
? never experienced that, but i've only practiced boxing at very low, amateurish level
>>69083757
Tell me how fat equals unathletic?
Pic related. The "lean, shredded, and athletic looking" wrestler got his ass kicked here.
>>69083878
Pretty sure he would get a red card for that in a normal sport.
>>69083884
Handegg is not about the individual. It's about the team.
Well, excluding the Quarterback that is.
>>69083848
6 fastest in the world.
But did Ronaldo dive across the finish line to save time?
>>69082631
>Not knowing who JJ Watt is
>>69083871
A 3-4 defensive end actually has to be both. Same goes for a 4-3 defensive tackle.
>>69083923
A good quarterback isn't gonna do shit with a bad line and bad receivers
Football might be the one sport where one individual player's performance has the least influence on the outcome of a game (except maybe baseball)
>>69083902
tempo, patterning, exploiting, spacing, movement, openings, etc
pick any one of those offenses I linked to and go into the details and you'll have your mind blown
I know to a casual observer it seems like basketball and hockey just kind of 'flow' without much design, but there are extremely strict rules being followed by all of the players that allow that to happen
>>69083951
There are rumors that JJ Watt is closet homosex
They're not as strong as Rodgers, ODB, or even Wilson, but they're out there
>Football
Endurance needed to run for 90 minutes
>Handegg
Strength needed for quick sprints in a 10 minute game with 3 hour commercials
Fit handegg players can beat footballers on 40 yard runs, but footballers will always win on higher distances because they have more stamina.
>>69083949
6th with the ball. There's a lot of players faster than him in straight line without a ball but no ones cares.
>>69081106
Why does the female version have a hot girl while the male version has a fat ugly dude?
what has this thread achieved?
has it brought you happiness? knowledge? wisdom?
>>69082859
Stop saying my name
>>69083956
Not necessarily. DTs generally tend to be less fat than NTs, JJ Watt plays a lot of 3 Tech snaps in a 4 man front.
And not all 3-4 NTs are obese either if they happen to play a 1 gap scheme, pic related. Though most are.
>>69083917
If you can't see the difference between Gardner and the guy in the OP you're seriously deluded, and probably making excuses for obesity.
>>69083771
>they're worth less than pro franchises
So what? Lots of money at stake. Stakeholders (institutions and coaches) that could make or lose lots of money. Therefor, they are run like professional organizations. More rules than NFL teams, because of dealing with academic and school rules, but the idea is the same.
>>69083870
>>69083882
look at all this backpedaling
>>69083999
The details seem sort of simple honestly, but there is a lot more to it than I thought. I've never even tried getting the nuances of hockey because that shit is just nonsense to my brain.
>>69084051
True. Being an NFL coach and being a college coach are two vastly different jobs. NFL coaching is like being a CEO, with a lot of delegation of responsibilities to assistants and coordinators. College coaching is being a dictator, with control over much more aspects of the program.
Hence why guys like Chimp Lelly and Jim Harbaugh aren't cut out for the NFL. They're too autistic. There was serious discussion in Philadelphia that Chip legitimately had Aspergers
>>69084049
So you still can't tell me how fat equals unathletic?
Here's another relevant pic.
The lean and shredded guy loses again.
So are you into sports for watching athletes or admiring body types?
>>69084017
and among a group of athletes who train to run a quarter of a marathon each week.
a quarter of a maraton made of mostly sprints.
comparing them with guys who train primarily on how to run fast for short distances is something only an idiot would do
>>69083900
0 understanding of real football
>>69084053
How is that backpedaling? Soccer players are better at cardiovascular endurance. Football players are better at everything else, sport-specific technique excluded. Unless cardiovascular endurance is the only factor in determining athleticism, football players are more athletic than soccer players
Handegg is just a really great game. You fuckers would enjoy it if you gave it a shot.
Help us create a united world Handegg!
>>69084053
How are they backpedaling?
Why is the only thing Yuros are concerned about is distance covered?
There is nothing easier to train for than pure stamina.
But using Yuro logic, this man is now the greatest athlete in the world.
Ashton Eaton got nothing on this beast.
>>69084123
The main difference that is often overlooked is recruiting. What do Urban Meyer, Nick Saban or even Les Miles have in common? They're all great recruiters and that's a skill that's completely useless in the NFL thanks to the draft.
>>69084185
Handegg players are better at resting every 3 minutes while another commercial is playing.
>>69083999
>it's hard to understand strategies!!!!
>90% niggers
>>69083747
I dont get how they measure this
>>69084221
Oh, sorry.. I forgot you're tooo poor to afford such luxuries.
opinions discarded
>>69084185
>Football players are better at everything else
In the first 15 minutes. Then they need a 7 months offseason to recuperate, while footballers keep competing.
>>69084239
The average soccer player is dumber than the average American nigger, is that what you're saying?
>>69084053
>FUCK, I'm getting destroyed, better start flinging out buzzwords!
>>69084128
Both examples are of athletes winning in huge upsets, because they were either out of form or older than their opponents, The fat handegg players are supposed to be on their primes, and their form is the norm for their position, which is baffling.
>>69084230
a marathoner runs at a steady pace for an extended period of time
footballers do high intensitity sprints at intervals and still averagely run 9-11 kilometers during a match
you really should stop comparing fundamentally different kinds of sports
>>69084239
yes, and this is why an extraordinary amount of fantastic HS basketball players fail in the ncaa and why schools like duke and gonzaga are so consistent
>All these asshurt ameriblobs
>>69084230
>There is nothing easier to train for than pure stamina.
By itself maybe. But training stamina in addition of other stuff is one of the hardest thing to do in sports, because it requires a type of training damaging to developing anything else.
>>69084260
Because it's a tougher sport since it demands more than just lightly jogging.
Compare the injury rate to football vs. soccer and get back to me.
>>69084260
>while footballers keep competing
lol, I mean there's more athleticism on display in 15 minutes of gridiron than 90 minutes of fairyjog. C'mon now.
>this exact thread, with Vince wilfork, will happen several times a week for months
>>69084302
You do realize Mexico has surpassed the US in obesity rates?
>>69081330
Wow soccer players are slow as fuck, imagine if our top athletes played this shit sport. Even baseball players are faster than soccer players. The best base stealers run a 3.8 30 yard dash.
nota huge fan of divegrass but here are the things i will say about it in relation to other sports
impressive
>finesse needed to control a ball using your feet (very unintuitive)
>high level of endurance
>goal keeper reaction time can be incredible
unimpressive
>lots of time standing around doing nothing
>gets really messi and a lot of goals turn out to be a lucky bounce or the guy being in the right place at the right time
>most games are low scoring not due to the stalemate nature of games but because there's not a lot of strategy required
>coaching is basically pointless
>athletes aren't nearly as athletic as most people in other sports
>divegrass is worse than NBA flopping most of the time
>spectators are way too into their sport and it's embarrassing what lengths they go to in order to show support
>>69084350
Doesn't change the fact that you're all still a bunch of fat fucks.
>lol you just have to be big and strong xD
Brock Lesnar was cut by the Vikings in preseason. Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson, the strongest man on Earth, could've been signed by the Colts but he wasn't because his footwork / technique was shit. There's way more to playing lineman than just size and strength.
>>69084356
>even
Baseball players are faster than any other sport
>>69084323
Wild claim.
And even if true, that would only be possible because gridiron fags are aware they will only be required to play as often as the average anon has sex, which means they can train in a completely different way.
If NFL athletes played a 50 games season half of the teams would have to retire from the competition before the end.
>Football:
explosive, highly technical, highly specialized, match that requires many moving parts to make highly athletic movements and split-second decisions all in cohesion towards a common goal
>FlopTrot:
oi m8 just put the bole in the box and give yaself a chance m8. At the end o' da day that's all your can really ask of your squad innit that roight Nigel?
Well I'd have to agree Pierre, just heet it on goal and you neva know if you'll get a penalty or 'anball or who knows you just moight score a absolute cracker of a goal m8
Football = Go
FlopTrotLuckHoof = checkers
check deez dubs too
>>69084362
pretty decent b8 m8
out of curiosity, are there any divegrass players who are also competing in the olympics in a different sport? The NFL has some.
>>69084386
Well you have some athletic freaks like Hamilton but you also have fat fucks like Ortiz or Bartolo Colon.
>>69084377
I could've sworn this was just a midwest meme or something since almost nobody here is like this, I had seen pictures but never actually met one.
went to a wal-mart superstore this weekend and I'll be damned, three of them were in there. like it was fucking scripted.
so it's not amerifats really, just ameriwalmarts.
>>69084413
>floptrot
I love this
>>69084397
It's not a wild claim, though, just watch a sawker game. If you're going to give gridiron shit because of all the downtime between plays, you don't get to also pretend that 99% of a sawker game isn't the exact same thing.
>>69081106
>Britbong women
>Britbong athletes
>>69084413
>Being this insecure
I get your sport is irrelevant but please stop acting like a child, it won't make the world give a damn.
>>69084397
>handegg
Either action or commercials
>soccer
Either action or jogging, standing around like a faggot or rolling on the pitch pretending to be hurt for 5 minutes.
>>69084292
>and their form is the norm for their position, which is baffling.
It's not baffling.
A big muscular beast like that Polish strongman or something would be UNDERSIZED for the position.
He would get decimated by an offensive line.
I don't think it is humanly possible to put on 350lb of lean muscle unless you're 7 foot tall or something. Ronnie Coleman is probably the biggest body builder of all-time and he doesn't crack 300lb. Besides, muscle consumes more oxygen than fat, so it would actually be a detriment to put on that much muscle.
And again, prove to me fat=unathletic. I'm still waiting.
>>69084439
It really does depend where you live. Euros are fucking morons and think everyone acts the same everywhere here. I can go to the Walmart in the uppity part of my town and you won't find ghetto niggers or fat fucks like this there. However, 1 town over and youre in the ghetto. The Walmart over there fills the stereotype exactly.
>>69084444
But see, people have actually measured the downtime, and gridiron clocked 15 mintues of action against football's 60.
And even all the "jogging time" is still strategically relevant, and requires the players to keep focused on the action, unlike gridiron which basically resets at every stop, so you can just turn your mind off in the down time.
>>69084413
>Football = Go
>FlopTrotLuckHoof = checkers
that's a terrible example since Go has a very simple ruleset with only one kind of piece, and making the most of it depends entirely on how you approach it. to be a proper analogy to football it would require many more kinds of pieces and a specific board and rule setup that is unique to that game, and success or failure depends more on high-level strategy and understanding type matchups than tactical awareness.
>>69084511
>15 minutes of action
That's only when you count the time between the snap and the whistle and don't account for presnap reads and setups which also is a huge part of the game.
>>69084521
Gay sex
>>69081152
kek
>>69084511
>But see, people have actually measured the downtime, and gridiron clocked 15 mintues of action against football's 60.
So, 1 guy dribbling in a soccer game while everyone else stands around = minute of action? C'mon now. I've never seen a soccer game with 60 minutes of actual action in my life.
>And even all the "jogging time" is still strategically relevant, and requires the players to keep focused on the action, unlike gridiron
But that IS like gridiron. The fuck do you think they do between plays, jerk off? They're considering the next play with the level of focus of a chess match.
>so you can just turn your mind off in the down time.
lol, now we've entered full-blown delusion territory. There isn't a sport that requires anywhere near the mental capacity of gridiron.
>>69084381
Brock Lesnar and Björnsson were tested? Wtf dude if anything it shows clearly that your sport need less skills. You could be an athletic monster if you din't play football for all you wouln't get a chance.
>>69084592
>which also is a huge part of the game
Not from an athletic perspective.
>>69083631
Sumo is just regular wrestling but with all-fat 300 kg competitors
![cristiano-ronaldo-and-james-rodriguez-attend-the-presentation-of-the-picture-id462010776[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nCpdGLT.jpg "cristiano-ronaldo-and-james-rodriguez-attend-the-presentation-of-the-picture-id462010776[1]")
Ronaldo is now the best paid athlete in the world and his manager, Jorge Mendes, is the second highest paid sports agent in the world only losing to Scott Boras.
No one in NFL can compete with that.
>>69084362
constantly sprinting throughout 90 mins really fucks with you if you have excess mass. So yeah footballers are pretty meh in terms of how little greek-godlike they look.
It's not standing around doing nothing, it's just the playing field is vast and the ball can cover great distances in a split second so people need to cover the places even far from the ball. Those guys look like they do nothing but off-the-ball play is crucial.
Things you say for the lack of strategy clearly beacuse you are not that familiar with the game. But less strategy compared to a game which is played for 15 seconds and many minutes of break after that; in that type of game you have lots of time to devise and implement strategy. Whereas football is continuous so players need to come up with shit to do themselves.
>>69084648
all your life
>>69084362
Filippo Inzaghi
>technically shit tier
>50 goals in 85 CL games
>all of them by simply being "in the right place at the right time"
I don't know, maybe is tactical understanding?
>>69084483
>prove to me fat=unathletic. I'm still waiting.
These people are trained to be really fat, they still have muscle and shit, but there's no guarantee that once they retire they will keep on with that training and stay a healthy person, seeing how they are encouraged to be really fat, that doesn't seem like the case.
Most fat people are very unathletic, these people are the exception for as long as they are playing, after that it's not the really the case, and their obesity will become a problem. Or are you implying that fat = athletic?
>>69084247
>>69084221
whats the point of watching a game where commercials last longer than the game itself
>>69084652
From a strategic perspective. Meanwhile in soccer you have the clock running while the teams are trying to get into a set play on a corner kick, free kick or a throw in, which in soccer counts as "action", not even talking about the tame wasting faggotry like players faking injuries for minutes or teams passing the ball back and forth in order to save time.
>>69084668
>all but a handful of the most valuable sports teams in the world are American
But, hey, congrats on all the African bandwagoners.
>>69084730
he said 60 minutes of action. Do you know that soccer games last 90 minutes? those 30 minutes are clearly removed from the count
>>69084730
that's why minutes are added at the end of each half
>>69084730
There's a lot of strategy involved in football, but since it's so dynamic only an experienced eye can tell.
seriously though, have any of you non-americans tested your sprinting time before? the standard measurement here for football players is 40 yards, and I've heard many non-athletes (both americans and foreigners) laugh it off like they could outrun the fat football players without even having to try, not realizing that getting close to 5 seconds in the 40 is not an easy feat.
for example, in high school we once had this athletic fair sort of thing where members of different clubs and sports teams would face off against each other in physical competitions. everyone laughed when they saw us submit our starting defensive tackle to the sprinting competition, but he outran the basketball, baseball, swimming, soccer, tennis, and even cross country team members by a good margin. the only one he lost to was the track team guy, and it was still not that bad. everyone seemed shocked, but that's just normal for football players.
they may be huge, but they can hustle. momentum is mass times velocity, and they have plenty of both.
>>69084321
The mistaken impression here is that you equate soccer with running a marathon or something.
A total distance of 7 miles covered that combines jogging, walking, and sprinting, with the former actually used the most, in 90 minutes with a half-time break, isn't some otherworldly demonstration of endurance.
A lot of football players, even the fatasses, probably grew up playing basketball. I played a lot, and we'd play for hours on end at times, full court, which probably covered even more miles than your average 90 minute soccer game.
Point is, a sport that tests stamina (in addition to sprinting and jumping) won't be some foreign territory for many American athletes.
>>69084806
And? The pace of the game doesn't change at all, it's just a few more minutes of the same. Half the time still runs off while only 1 or 2 guys are doing anything or someone is on the ground, etc.
>>69084826
Here's an average guy compared to an NFL hambeast fatass (337 lbs / 153 kg).
http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/09000d5d81e0cde5/Raji-vs-Rich-40-yard-dash
>>69084511
>But see, people have actually measured the downtime, and gridiron clocked 15 mintues of action against football's 60.
you say this but then you point out this
>And even all the "jogging time" is still strategically relevant, and requires the players to keep focused on the action
the same is true of football, you know? just because the ball hasn't snapped yet doesn't mean important shit isn't going on. I know this is just a >commercial, but this gives a quick look into things happening between every snap. it's just that television broadcasts don't do the game justice and most of this is skipped over or not shown properly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzuxTdnIVbo
so yeah, that's almost a minute there, and by the standards of the measurement you're referring to, NONE of it counts as relevant, which is entirely misleading
>unlike gridiron which basically resets at every stop, so you can just turn your mind off in the down time
this is very untrue and you do yourself a disservice by believing it
>>69084712
>these people are the exception for as long as they are playing, after that it's not the really the case, and their obesity will become a problem.
Who cares about after their playing career? We're talking about them during their career, and their physical attributes are indeed world class (I doubt any athletes in any sport or competition have better size/speed/jump ratios than NFL lineman).
>Or are you implying that fat = athletic?
In most cases, fat does equal unathletic, but we're not talking about most cases, and in this case, you can't just simply equate body type with athleticism.
>>69084413
>highly technical
How is it highly technical when it's almost purely physical with a bit of tactical awareness and knowledge depending on positions? Americans really have a strange, twisted definition of "technique" or "skill" where in the end it all comes down to physicality.
>>69084904
Here's a better video about presnaps that isn't a commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH5gwHHjZ7Q
>>69084886
which is really embarassing considering raji was constantly mocked for being a slow lazy fatass even by linemen standards
>>69084950
>i'm all knowing about a sport my country doesn't play
>>69084417
>best player in history
>literally can't hit a 15 foot target from 10 feet away
>quits because he is a pussy
>muh "athletes" are so technical and superior
Why do you retards always want to compare athletes from two different sports?
>Football
For a fucking nose tackle/shade you want them to be big and powerful. Same goes for anyone on the o-line. Athletically football players use a fuckton of energy in short bursts by going full blast on every play. If football players had to what soccer players did they would probably be tired as fuck after 20+ minutes.
>Soccer
Requires a different type of conditioning because they are always on the move. If you taught two teams, I don't fucking know, Barcelona and fucking Chelsea, to play American football with the same vigor and intensity, I promise you they would be tired as fuck after 4 or 5 drives.
they are radically different sports with different ideal body types and energy expenditure. Anyone with a fucking brain should notice this. Doesn't make one a superior athlete over another.
I'll just leave this here.
>>69084950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoqA-LKGb4
>QB
>not one of the most technical position on Earth
>>69084668
>believing this
>>69084960
fukkin saved, but it's nice to have a short video to quickly illustrate the basic point to someone who doesn't get it in the first place. that one is nice for a bit more detail, but this argument comes up often enough that the commercial isn't bad.
not every football team should be judged by peyton's standard, either. he's especially notorious for his pre-snap adjustments.
Most handegg players are literally trained to sprint only 40 yards, since the distance is so small, acceleration is key, meaning more muscle mass is needed. Football players on the other had are usually already jogging when a play is being made so they don't need to train for acceleration as much. Football requires more finesse skills and quick thinking since the strategy is dynamic and free-flowing, handegg is all about raw strength, tactics in handegg are planned by the coaches and QB, Jamal doesn't need to care about that, they just need to follow orders from their white overlords pump iron.
>>69085033
>tactics in handegg are planned by the coaches and QB, Jamal doesn't need to care about that, they just need to follow orders
This is mostly true for high school and college, but not the NFL.
>>69085003
nothing compared to what football players do
>>69084648
Brock played football in high school.
Giving the strongman a chance with a known knee injury is puzzling. Smells of publicity stunt or just the Colts throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks.
>>69085033
you got the terms backwards buddy
soccer has very little strategy but is built on tactical awareness
football doesn't have much by way of tactics but is the most strategic sport on the planet
>>69085071
Couldn't help but notice that you didn't even try to support this claim. Interesting.
>>69084377
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/junk-food-loving-mexico-now-fatter-than-us-8702522.html
>>69081330
>the shitty of divegrass
>>69085071
Let me know when soccer players will be able to quickly set their feet and throw a 60 yard completion with a milimeter accuracy while they're having several 300 lbs niggers trying to literally kill them.
>>69084981
>trying to rationally argue a point
back to ribbit
>>69084945
The point some Americans are trying to make here is that that fat fuck is more athletic than any football player, when he is better than them at just a few things like brute strenght, and blocking people with their mass, but in many other regards of athleticism most football players are obviously superior to him.
>>69081330
>4.7 seconds
Top fucking lel. Here's a 140 kg fat lineman running a 4.65: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8_1n6Y4l74
>>69081795
So much this.
This is why americucks will never suceed in football. All they can think about is 'muh athlete'
>>69085033
>handegg is all about raw strength
this is the size of a college playbook that "Jamal" has to memorize. They're much larger and more complex in the NFL.
>>69081106
You know I love this time of year. The Olympics are coming, and our nation of fat asses will crush the rest of the world. But of course the rest of you poor 3rd world fags will claim the Olympics don't matter.
Only poor people play soccer in America.
Can see why it's so popular in European countries and South American countries
This thread has accomplished many great things and resolved several misunderstandings. Thank you OP for making it.
>>69085221
you're confusing aerobic with anaerobic exercise. they are both athletes but depending on how you define athleticism, football players ARE objectively and categorically superior to soccer players. the problem is that it's not a 1:1 comparison, but no sport synchs up 1:1 anyways.
the best analogy we could make to the way soccer players are built is probably baseball.
>this is considered a sport
how embarassing
>>69083747
>only 7 miles
Shitty athletes.
>>69085329
>the best analogy we could make to the way soccer players are built is probably baseball
association soccer vs gridiron football is a fair enough comparison, as long as you do it by a specific position. Most gridiron football kickers and punters have soccer backgrounds. TSUUU would probably be an all-pro punter.
>>69085356
IT'S JUST LIKE THE FUCKING SIMPSONS
THERE ARE PEOPLE ON /sp/ THAT WILL LITERALLY DEFEND THIS
>>69085356
>this is considered a sport
embarrassing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C_7OpncLLY
>amerifats
>>69085221
Let's do a check list of athletic traits:
- Strength, by a huge margin.
Fat lineman
- Sprint speed
Even (Warren Sapp ran a 4.6 40, which is faster than Ronaldo's projected time).
- Vertical leap
Fat lineman, on average. They range in the 26'-32". Ronaldo is one of soccer's highest leapers and he checks in at 30".
- Lateral quickness
Soccer player
- Stamina
Soccer player, by a huge margin.
Oh yea, the lineman is TWICE the size of the soccer player.
I don't see how you can't be impressed with the fact someone that size can move that well when most people who are over 300lb are riding around in mobility scooters.
It just seems like you care about body type more than actual performance.
>>69085429
you havent seceded yet, texas.
Why are people saying NFL players are faster?
I just googled it and not even the fastest NFL player seems to match the speed of Missi according to this chart
http://the18.com/news/whose-football-fastest-are-european-or-nfl-players-faster
>>69083900
the word you are looking for is "tactics".
US football is tactics all the time, and more precisely, "programs": Coach tell offensive line what program to use, and they execute. Program fails? no problem, back to 0.
World football IS strategy. what formation do you use? and HOW do you play: keep the ball? let the ball? height of pressing? distance between lines? use of sides? zone/man marking? who organize play midfields/playmaker/libero? how do you use your forward/striker? etc etc. not mentioning how do you intend to play YOUR game against this or that opponent. way way more strategic than US football
>>69082283
>sports you can "play"
>>69083747
>But why isn't Ronaldo sprinting for 90 minutes straight?
>>69085356
Look at all the sprinting and amazing demonstration of stamina that is simply mind-boggling to Americans.
>amerifats
>>69085395
NEVER fucking reply to me again unless you are contributing to the thread
>>69085381
just because they're kicking doesn't mean that their ideal build or ideology is the same. that'd be like saying a baseball pitcher and a shot putter are the same just because they throw stuff, or that a sprinter in the 100m dash and a marathoner are the same just cause they run. they're entirely different disciplines.
that said, soccer-converted kickers do have the technical ability that lets them cross over easier, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make, which was more about the musculature and energy expenditures that the sport's demands would require of them. soccer and baseball players are both athletes, but the kind of athleticism required in each is much closer than comparing football and soccer.
>>69085458
>keep the ball? let the ball?
Running down the clock with a pounding offense vs a time saving passing offense
>distance between lines?
Blocking schemes
> zone/man marking?
Zone/man coverage
>height of pressing?
Dropping 8 in the box / amount of pass rushing players
Seriously don't even bother trying to talk about things you have no clue about.
>>69085356
SOMEONE PLEASE DEFEND THIS
PLEASE, I AM DYING TO HEAR THIS
>>69085458
>not mentioning how do you intend to play YOUR game against this or that opponent
Are you trying to imply football doesn't use gameplans? They have a week long practice sessions solely based on gameplanning around their current opponent.
>>69085452
The dumb writer compared the average speeds of football players over 40 yards to the TOP speeds of soccer players.
From the comments:
>this is so misleading and wrong. Like others have said, calculated avg speed from a standing stop vs. absolute top speed are apples and oranges measurements.
>>69085356
>this counts as """action""" in soccer
I'd unironically rather watch Geico commercials than this shit.
>>69084504
>mfw I went to the chicago suburbs once and saw like 5 of these behemoths at a time
I have yet to see one as big in Los Angeles
>>69085071
>12:45:21
>12:48:62
>video is 8 minutes
>didn't even watch it
>>69085458
>getting it backwards again
football is strategy
soccer is tactics for the reasons you JUST described.
>>69081592
Body Coordination, you can have Gronk in a high level divegrass game but he wont be a real threat because he cant handle the ball well enough
this thread is a decisive victory for America
Yuropoors you need to step up your game, I think you need some australians to back you up, at least some britbongs
>amerilards in full damage control mode
>>69085630
you're kidding, right? I'm hoping you just chose a bad example. gronk is known for all the aspects that go with body control as well as he is for being an athletic freak. the guy is just a beast.
>>69085630
Well, yeah, no shit he wouldn't handle the ball well, he's never done it before at a high level. That has nothing to do with athleticism though.
>>69085623
you confuse strategy (the whole plan of how you play the game) vs. tactics (small programs executed when the game starts).
US football is a suite of offensive programs.
>>69085639
>Being this deluded.
You're getting blown out ITT to be honest
>>69085452
This is what happens when you don't have a head to use.
>>69085690
They aren't separate in gridiron, they're intrinsically linked.
>>69085697
>getting blown out
>7
of course its fucking mexico
Does the NFL have statistics like this? I only see the 40 yard shit when I google it.
>>69085750
Based Robben
>insecure yuros make these threads at least once a day
>same ill-informed tripe over and over
>gets corrected by well-intentioned amerianons
>"hurrr durr fat, muh sawka bawl!"
The big take away for me is that something is driving a massive yuro inferiority complex. I almost never see Americans making these kinds of threads, yet yuros churn them out daily. Why is that?
>>69085750
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/new-data-shows-that-arsenals-theo-walcott-is-still-the-worlds-fastest-player-as-arjen-robben-only-ran-at-31kmh/
>>69085690
what this guy said >>69085724
but also
you confuse strategy (the whole plan of how you play the game) vs. tactics (small programs executed when the game starts)
illustrates exactly my point, football is more strategic and soccer is more tactical. they both have elements of the other, but that's the overall mode of each.
>>69082168
you know those speeds are with the ball right?
>>69085724
the fact is you can change all your players in US football, hence changing tactics everytime.
in World football you can't change easily a key player (a midfielder) to change your overall strategy because subs are limited. a coach never does it during a game
>>69085690
>>69085458
Gridiron has both.
Gameplanning = strategy
Playcalling = tactics
>>69085697
Yeah, sure, Jose.
>Yuros make fun of "fat" American athletes. Are then shown those fat football players are about as fast and jump about as high as the greatest povertyball athlete there is.
>Yuros start talking about skills or something, per usual. Americans aren't even talking about skills, since comparing the skillsets of two different sports is stupid.
>Now the debate has shifted to strategy and tactics. An NFL playbook is dictionary sized. NFL teams gameplan all week, watching hours of film, yet Yuros claim soccer is more strategic, despite them ALWAYS telling us of soccer's improvisational beauty that's like Jazz music (I think it's more like finger painting).
>>69085785
>"fucking piche gringo, how dare he shit on my ill-formed, illogical arguments! I know, I'll MEME! That'll fucking show him how much smarter and better I am than him!"
Starting to think /pol/ is onto something with race/IQ stats.
>>69082122
yeah, those Icelandic guys are pretty badass to be fair
>>69085356
>taking poortugal as an exemple
There is a good reason why they are among the most hated teams in the world.
>people defending lard collide
>>69085750
Reminder that those speeds were recorded when the players were running with the ball.
I gotta say Kevin Love put in a better showing.
>>69085842
what are you even talking about? Change players? No we don't
>>69082230
all that talk about strategy, tactics, comprehensive books about plays really falls flat when you realise how much time they get before preparing their attacks.
>>69085856
Now you're just projecting. At least lose with class.
>>69085750
I found this http://www.stack.com/a/these-players-clocked-the-10-fastest-speeds-during-the-2015-nfl-regular-season
>>69083057
average about a 8 kilometers a match
that's not very impressive tbph desu
>>69085785
Football is a war between two sides with literal commanders sitting in the sky strategizing for each battle
Floptrot is a bunch of skninnyfat twinks going for a jog and aimlessly firing in the general direction of their target hoping something lands while their main cheerleader with too much hair gel stands on the sideline flailing his arms in the air and arguing with the ref
you guys have no argument here
>>69085822
they're also all incredibly inaccurate. the only way we can really compare is with shit like 40 yard dash times, or 100 meters
also I think walcott's record 35.7 was during a 100m sprint
>>69085928
Gotta love insecure Americans.
>>69085897
>"He didn't go for my 'KEK!' meme! Fuck, I need a buzzword to throw at him! Uh...uh...uh....I know 'PROJECTING!'"
Jesus lad. Would you like me to send you some money, man? Must be tough for you just to get by day-to-day.
>>69083747
Ameriwhales on suicide watch
>>69085356
I know it'll ruin the ebin meme, but this is in a game where it's in the final minute and neither team needs a victory to advance so why would you waste energy?
>>69085928
Burgerball is fat black dudes throwing themselves at each other while another runs towards a post while doing a military salute.
Actual football is constant tactical guessing for application of an overall strategy that must be implemented accorting to the opposing team's placement, their physical condition of the moment among many other things. It is a game of risk and reaction where the player who can create and lead a break through the defensive line may take the advantage or be countered.
You literally cannot say otherwise.
The fact that most burgers think that in order to improve their league, MLS, they should just get in more FAST BLACK MEN or BIG BLACK MEN is testament to their complete lack of understanding as to what football requires. Coordination, technical ability, and ball control are equally important if not more so than physical prowess in football. In fact, you'd be better taking someone who is dominant in those traits and then getting them fit than you would getting a sprinter to learn football.
>>69085979
Keep the tears coming, I can taste the desperation.
>>69085750
Yes. Since Robben's time was confirmed bullshit, see here: http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/new-data-shows-that-arsenals-theo-walcott-is-still-the-worlds-fastest-player-as-arjen-robben-only-ran-at-31kmh/
Walcott is the fastest ever, which puts him at a top speed of 22.18mph.
Remember, that is the fastest ever.
Here's the top in game NFL sprints from just this season. And they're running with full pads.
And if we removed the pads and looked at the fastest NFL players sprint times in the 100m or something, they would handily best Walcott's speed.
>>69083747
my grandma can probably run 7 miles in 2 hours also
>>69083747
>running = jogging
Americans literally spend an entire thread to prove that being fat doesn't make you less of an athlete so they can justify their own morbid obesity to themselves
Literally couldn't make this up
>>69086022
>>69086065
Post is 2 hours old, stop getting triggered by it.
>>69086008
>"I'm not c-crying, YOU ARE!"
lol, my older brother once said this while sobbing after I kicked his ass and made fun of him for whimpering like a bitch. Always seems to happen like that.
>>69086001
And it all results in a 0-0 tie 50% of the time. Lol.
It's obvious soccer is highly luck based. One team can dominate time of possession, shots on goal, etc and still lose to a fluky goal.
This is why the 3rd world loves it. Anyone can play the game and understand it.
Does soccer test players with IQ tests (Wonderlic, which correlates to IQ) like American football does?
posting to make this thread autosage faster
Holy fuck this thread is like a throwback to 2009, I missed this shit
>>69086149
>Americans get blown out so hard they want the thread gone to end the embarrassment.
>>69085981
>"lol dumb amerifats, don't they know that the peak of athletic achievement is a slow jog over long distances!"
>amerifats being good at another sport that isnt eating hamburguers and being fat
>>69083747
/thread
>>69086119
>One team can dominate time of possession, shots on goal, etc and still lose to a fluky goal.
But this is how the world works anon. You can be the biggest military power and still have civil airplanes crashing on your skyscrapers.
>>69085356
Of course not showing it was 90+3 in the E21 final
fucking retard
>>69086017
You forget that those sprints are with the ball in their feet, try doing the same and see how much harder it is and how it slows you down as well.
>>69086220
>distance jogged = degree of athletic acheivement
So, once again, why aren't you hailing death march as the pinnacle of sport?
Nothing is bigger than the Super Bowl and our sport generates more revenue.
We are better than you ;^)
>>69086203
We're better than you in pretty much every sport known to man aside from povertyball.
You did have a cute little run in tennis, though. But you really are nothing historically.
>>69086279
I never said that. Having to actually be fit is a component of football though, and also general athleticism.
>B-but muh sprints
That's not what football players train for friendo, endurance is at least as important to them as speed, it's not the same as in hand egg, there is actually a full 90 mins of play, what are you failing to understand?
>>69086369
You aren't the best in actual international sports though.
>>69086391
I didn't say most watched. I said we generate more revenue because we are better and it's not just a bunch of third worlders watching
>>69086391
LMAO CRICKSHIT CONFIRMED MORE POPULAR
BURGERS BTFO
>>69086432
The whole world watches the WC, including first world countries.
>>69086391
>all those poos tuning into cricket
>>69086493
>all those rednecks tuning into handegg
>>69086464
But that's one match every four years. Super Bowl isn't even an all star game either
>>69086431
Basketball bitch, we are first or second in baseball too, 3rd at the least in hockey. And none of you faggots would stand a chance in football
>>69086515
what the hell are Mexicans even doing ITT
this is between real countries
>>69086278
Per the FIFA criteria, it's when the player has control of the ball, which could mean one kick and then a dead sprint for the 10 yards it takes to catch up to it.
I think most would agree that Walcott is at the very least top 3 in terms of raw speed, and his 100m time is 10.6 (fastest ever for a soccer player).
Walcott would be at the bottom of this list.
https://web.stanford.edu/~clint/100m_nfl.htm
>>69086119
>luck based
idk if trolling or not, but why it's always the best team who wins? if it was luck based, any team would have the same chance to win
>inb4 Greece 2004
they won because they were the best at disrupting their opponent's strategies. they also had a great striker (Charisteas)
>Does soccer test players with IQ tests (Wonderlic, which correlates to IQ) like American football does?
that's why all US football players die at 55? thanks to their genius?
>>69086410
>physicall fitness = endurance and only endurance
Dank my man.
>That's not what football players train for friendo
Of course not, there's no place in it for athletic versatility.
>there is actually a full 90 mins of play
>1 guy dribbling, 1 guy defending, 20 guys picking their arses
>a full 90 mins of play
>mfw
>>69086410
>there is actually a full 90 mins of play
>>69085356
>>69086664
your last point is non-sensical
>>69086604
>And none of you faggots would stand a chance in football
There's a tournament for that. We send low-level college players and dominate it.
>>69086604
No one plays Handegg but you, only Japan and Central Americans play Boreball, Basketball is dominated by negros.
How about real international sports like Football, Tennis, Rugby, F1, Cricket, Volleyball, etc.
>>69086431
If we're talking all-time:
>Basketball
>Baseball (there's not a good International comp to decide this, though).
>Tennis
>Golf
>Boxing (this one burns, doesn't it?)
>>69085871
>>69085991
>>69086274
THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING IT
HERE COMES THE DEFENSE
>>69086410
>he said "there is actually a full 90 mins of play"
>this entire thread
>>69083747
TENNIS players run more than ameriblobbing nigger-colliding handeggers
>>69086644
Have you ever run at full speed with a ball? It's not just about kicking it then catching up to it, you have to fix your strides, thus slowing you down
>>69086764
>No one plays Handegg but you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFAF_World_Championship
>>69086432
how can you not generate more revenue when there are more commercials than actual game time?
>>69086767
>Tennis
wut?
>Box
Rigged garbage, not sport
>Golf
Not sport
>>69086838
And death marchers run almost as much as everyone on that chart combined, wtf does that prove?
>>69086904
Give me commercials over players wearing atrocious billboards any day.
>>69086432
>we generate more revenue because we are better
Of course you do, goyim.
>>69083858
>that thing
> pure muscle
kekerino
>>69086764
How is tennis is an international sport when it's a fringe sport in most countries?
That's why there's little to no parity in tennis, because pretty much every country on Earth doesn't take it seriously.
But if you want to talk tennis, we are inarguably the GOATs all-time.
>Volleyball
lol. A women's sport in most countries, and again, a sport not one country really takes seriously.
But if you want to talk volleyball, we are tied for the most men's golds with the Soviet Union.
Cricket. Not a worldwide sport. India inflates it. So if population is all that is required for "worldwide status," then basketball is easily up there.
>Rugby
Lol. Only taken seriously in New Zealand, France, South Africa, and the UK. Even Australia is constantly on here telling us how irrelevant it is.
Union is so relevant, that a world cup Final only drew 33 million viewers.
>Perhaps the most revealing of the 2007 audience figures was the lack of interest outside the major rugby nations.
>The Putting Rugby First report found 97 per cent of the abovementioned 33 million came from New Zealand, Australia and South Africa, the four home nations and France. Fewer than one million tuned in from the IRB's other member nations - which number well over 100 - and include Japan, Argentina
We're the world sport kings. We flirted with Rugby once. Won back-to-back Olympic golds. Flirted with povertyball, too.
3rd place in the very first World Cup.
>There were no good teams in that!
Okay, then in 1950, we send a bunch of amateurs and knock out World number 1 England.
The rest of the world is lucky we let them have it.
>>69087190
I'll give you US$1k if you post a timestamped video of yourself running a faster 40 yard dash.
>>69086909
Did the world just begin last year for you or something?
And this doesn't take into account all the titles we won prior to the Open era, doubles titles, and women's titles.
>>69087201
>3rd place in the very first World Cup.
Amateur tournament at that point, and as far as I remember that USA team was full of actual British born players.
>>69087480
Back when the world didn't care about tennis, now imagine if they cared about handegg or niggerhoop? You wouldn't dominate at all ;^)
>>69087691
>the world
>mfw the entire world needs to band together to compete
>>69087691
what is Mexico even good at?
>>69087691
The world didn't care about tennis so much so that they only produced Boris Becker, Bjorn Borg, Rod Laver, Lendl, Edberg, and many others.
Tennis was actually more of a worldwide sport then. The same 3 guys have ruled tennis now for over a decade.
Federer is still a threat 34. Back then, you were retired at that age.
>>69088107
Getting decapitated.
>>69081550
who the fuck is this rob gronkowski guy?
seriously don't expect anyone outside the US to know who these nobodies are
>>69085010
How many matches this year?
Oh thats right..
somehow this shit is a sport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07mBfR8erMY
>>69085251
Well you dont really memorize the playbook that would be unpractical, to memorize each play i mean, you rather learn the nomenclature and memorize some keys (where am i supposed to be standing in each formation, what route should i run) that way you understand whats going on in the huddle
>>69084504
Texas is roughly 2/3rds the size of Europe, yet they still think Americans are a hivemind of SJW/redneck fatasses. But heaven forbid you don't correctly guess their unique ethnicity/culture. I mean shit, Europe is a tiny place with lots of different peoples, why would America, a much larger area with a history of immigration, be homogeneous?
>>69087520
Nope. Full of the children of Scots-Irish immigrants who came to work the mills of New England though. 1st generation Americans basically.
