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>Edmonton
w-why didn't u come steven?
who will make me nachos with cheese now
>shorks
Oilers did nothing wrong
>Stammer is coming to T town cause this is home so therefor he's signing with the Leafs for 10 years.
t. Laffs fans everywhere 10 hours ago
>yfwswtc
Fuck memes
who will be the first big name signed on friday and who will sign him
>>69071278
>>69071299
Nah there's no way this nightmare happens again. But I'm hoping Therrien is fired after the first 3 game losing streak, that's what they hired Muller for
>Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson
>>69071343
Bishop to Oilers
>>69071343
Lucic, NJ
>>69071343
Lucic back to Bruins
Is edmonton shit?
>Let's not trade ENH, Eberle or Yakupov!
>Let's trade our best winger for someone we could have drafted in 2011
>Let's replace that winger with a hunchback goon from Hongcouver
I know I've said in /hoc/ before that Edmonton should stack defense and make 4 forward lines of just goons, but not like this. Not like this, man
>>69071334
>yfwtcbjwtsc
people can't make fun of the gudbranson trade now KEK
>>69071388
that would be too many memes for one offseason
>@StuCowan1
>Shea Weber does not sound very excited on his conference call about leaving @PredsNHL for #Habs. Wait till he sees Montreal media mob.
Weber on suicide watch
>>69071283
>Ben Bishop on defense
>McDavid in net
That was one of the best \hawk\ threads I've ever seen.
>>69071358
>s
>mtpo
kek
>>69071343
Lucic to the oilels
>>69071336
I do believe Weber/Pacioretty/Price/Galchenyuk and to a lesser extent Gallagher is a great core but maybe I'm just being a delusional fanboy
>>69071411
RNH*
>>69071415
her pee is too yellow. she needs to hydrate
also post that gook ass kippers
>>69071335
that is the first time i have seen anyone wear a rasy hat
>>69071415
Le ebin pee meme http://mlb.com/images/1/2/2/127784122/orbit_streaking_med_gvyw2dsi.gif
>>69071415
Most people forget the canucks even exist desu
>>69071454
>imageboard
>posts a link to image
uhh... go back
>>69071433
>he thinks anyone wants those other trash players
>he thinks you would get anything worth a damn from those players
laughinggirls
>>69071411
The only thing keeping me from leaping off a bridge is McDavid, and this fucker in pic related.
>>69071473
It's an image bored mate :^)
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Hall isn't as valuable as I or many others thought?
>>69071483
I guess you won't be very happy when mcdavid needs shoulder surgery in November.
>>69071473
Post tits or fuck off
lucic yfw lucic has scored 30 goals more times than taylor hall
>>69071451
i live in tampa and i have a blots, sucs, and lex university hat but ive never bothered to buy a gays hat.
>>69071483
>>69071483
bulju doesnt look right in oilers colours. im not even a blow jackets fan either
Chris Johnston @reporterchris 19m19 minutes ago
All but $8-million of Steven Stamkos's $68-million contract will be paid in July 1 signing bonuses. He's due $8.5M on Friday.
unnnnnnnnnnn fucking real
Lucic - McDavid - Pulju is actually a based as fuck line.
>>69071431
I think it's good enough, especially in the East. At some point, whether it's july 1st or the deadline we have to fix the offense to give them a serious chance in the ploffs.
>>69071498
He's good but people are overvaluing the fuck out of him for the position they were looking for, in my opinion.
>>69071514
i thought gays technically played in St Petersburg and not the city of tampa
>>69071518
why doesn't he retire when he hits 30?
Hold me /hoc/
>tfw hallsy will never get to play in an outdoor game
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@TSNRyanRishaug
The ask from MTL for Subban was astronomical to Oil. Draisaitl, #4, Klefbom or Nurse and more.
This makes it sound like Montreal understood Subban's value at one point. What went wrong?
>>69071518
>yfw it's a sign and trade to Toronto as Tampa buys out his contract letting him sign with the laffs for another 60m
>Weber signed that huge fucking contract
>He didn't get a NMC
how?
>>69071516
I'm an Oilers fan, and I think he look ten times more awesome in the based orange and blue.
Holy fuck >my team sucks, though.
Taylor Hall is literally just a 20 goaler wing guy lol
meme
>>69071569
offer-sheet from philly
>>69071571
Don't let the faggots here convince you otherwise but they made a step in the right direction today.
>>69071569
Because NMC/NTCs are left up to the team that matches the offersheet.
>>69071566
>it's another episode of laffs fans being fucking retarded
getting really retired of these repeats tbfh
>>69071569
Flyers gave him NTC/NMC but the Preds only had to match the money structure.
>s..stammer just said he wants to stay in tampa for no reason
>t... toronto here he comes
>>69071573
1st overall tho
>>69071555
Weber's meat and potatoes adds a lot of value
>put frogs in charge of your managementment/coaching
>have autistic frog breakdown when they do things you dont like
kek. frog hate thread when?
>>69071617
Why does that matter at this point?
>>69071632
Because she doesn't actually understand how hockey works.
I'm assuming Hall is a shithead in the locker room? That's the only reason I can see this trade being made.
>>69071640
No its because he was their best player not named mcdavid.
>>69071632
because value is always attached to high draft picks
you can be a fucking bust and be unloaded for good stuff
except the oilers literally traded the bust for crap
thanks, chia, always trading high picks for shit
>>69071579
>>69071587
>>69071600
>hello, montreal.
>>69071640
Chiarelli is really bad at trading.
Yo what the fuck? Are oilers fans happy about this?
>>69071640
they traded a 20 goal winger for a top pairing shut down D. chia just fleeced new joisey.
Life is honestly becoming a giant meme
2017 is our year
>>69071657
More relevant than his draft position would be his 80 point season.
>>69071657
>because value is always attached to high draft picks
>>69071676
You're not wrong. I'm enjoying the sports portion of it at least.
>>69071670
literally JVR for Luke Schenn part 2.
>>69071640
read the story about him and some player going to bars and getting angry at people for not knowing who he is
>>69071672
Are you the same American Oilers fan that's been going on all day about how Chiarelli did good with the trade?
taylor hall is just a younger lupul, lol. thats a good trade for edmonton. let taylor go score 25 goals in that smelly ass disgusting city. oilers just stole their cornerstone D
>>69071330
This was me.
Now I'm glad we have don't have that horrible caphit for 8 years
THIS IS WHO WE GOT! THIS IS WHO WE GOT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGTf3HVbmX4
I'm actually a Kingsfan but living in Edmonton means I watch a lot of Oil games. High level bridge here I fucking come!
>>69071707
I'm not him but yoy guys severely overvalue Hall for what player they were trying To acquire. Disagree if you want idc.
when i saw "hall for larsson" today, i thought it was ekman-larrson
i was worried because that would've been a fucking steal for the oilers
HAHAHA TRANPA BAY CLOTS FELL FOR THE LEAFS WANT STAMKOS MEME
THEY HAVE NOW JEOPARDIZED THE REAL TARGET
HEDMAN TO THE LEAFS 2017
>HEDMAN TO THE LEAFS 2017
HEDMAN TO THE LEAFS 2017
>HEDMAN TO THE LEAFS 2017
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>HEDMAN TO THE LEAFS 2017
>>69071498
Canadian hockey "minds" think that Center is a more valuable position than winger.
>>69071670
we needed that position filled and we used one of our excess forwards to do it
the price was high and it remains to be seen if larsson can actually be what chia thinks
the reality is that we couldnt go into next season without addressing the defense
>>69071738
Lmao pls anon, your team got btfo with a garbage trade
>>69071738
I was just wondering. Because it seems like there's been just this one dude going on and on. Cool beans tho.
>>69071699
Holy shit anon this is a literal perfect comparison. Hall is better than JVR and larsson is better than schenn but same shit.
>>69071640
Oilers have a shitload of depth on the offense, why not trade some of them for a top-2 D when you suck defensively? There's a reason why you're not a GM, dumbass.
>>69071750
>laffs
>Trade Hall
>Stuck with Meme face still
>>69071756
i dont see how trading a 20 goal winger for a top pairing D is bad. in fact, thats great value.
>>69071741
OEL is so based. Shame he will waste his career in phoenix
>>69071773
Disagree. JVR for Schenn made no sense because Schenn was a bottom six dman at best.
Larsson was on the top pairing, can actually skate a bit
>>69071771
That other guy is kinda undervaluing Hall. He is better than he is saying.
>>69071756
Whatever man that's the beauty of sports. People have differing opinions.
>>69071790
Larsson isn't a top 2 D yet and may never get there.
>>69071827
actually, every metric suggests you are wrong.
>>69071790
This. It was a good trade for both sides. Quit jerking it to Hall and take a look at the bigger picture.
>>69071827
and taylor hall has been riddled with injuries throughout his career
>>69071573
he's a carreer .85ppg player in the second dead puck era. That's hard to find
>See Hall traded for Larsson
>Think we got OEL for a second
>Reminded we got someone we could have drafted in 2011
>Still have RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, MemePoopjarvoface, Frenchy on our team
>mfw
>>69071809
The optics of the trade are bad. Hall is a much better player than Larsson, the fact its a 1 for 1 is why its bad.
>>69071857
he's a 20 goal winger. p much every team has at least 4 of those
>>69071753
Do you think Draisaitl would have gotten you Larsson? Would you rather have lost Draisatil over Hall if it were possible?
WE GOT OUR DEFENSEMEN BOYS, OIL COUNTRY TAKING THE CUP HOME NEXT SEASON FOR SURE
>>69071573
>delusion
Hall is basically a younger Phil Kessel, but grittier
>>69071873
>it's an oilers fan that just wants to continue to horde offense and ignore the defense
Ebin my friend
what did he mean by this
>>69071891
And larsson is a middle pairing defenseman. Can't you find those in the 3rd round?
>>69071877
the optics of any trade are arbitrary
>>69071916
I don't know but sounds like complete bullshit if you ask me
>>69071916
>~P2
Probably a third pairing bust
>>69071844
Nah he's good but he's not Hall good. They could have at least gotten a pick out of it or something too.
>>69071852
True
>>69071827
The point is that Oilers is sooo full of offensive minded forwards, where are you gonna play them all with mr. meme coming to the lineup for next season? And Larsson is definitely top 2, at least in Oilers.
>>69071903
do you watch nhl hockey?
>>69071895
draisaitl wouldnt have gotten larsson
>>69071943
I think most people here don't desu senpai
>>69071916
bullshit, if they shopped hall to nj i can guarantee that they shopped hall to everyone
>>69071917
actually, he's a top pairing D.
>>69071943
Nice meme
>>69071968
Nice meme
>>69071966
What? Do you think people on the internet would lie? :^)
>>69071916
>make that trade
>package those two 1st rounders + Nurse or Klefbom, throw in Eberle if need be
>walk away with Pietrangelo/Burns/player of that calibre
>>69071978
>>69071984
Nice meme
>>69071939
Could they really not have made a package for him around Eberle instead?
>>69071997
>make that trade that does not exist
>>69071997
>>69072013
Anyone here could have made a better trade than Chiarelli did.
>>69072004
Jersey tells you to fuck off if you're not offering up Hall or Drai+
his value to NJ > his value to other teams
lets go oilernation
>>69072004
ebs is so overrated its not even funny
>>69072025
Okay what do you suggest then? Make sure it is realistic.
that nhl executive was prob a half in the bag don sweeney and he offered 2 first rounders in 2023 and 2024 and dennis seidenberg for hall
>>69072067
not even the most lopsided trade today tbqh
>>69072039
agreed, the trade makes us better, when mcdavid is hoisting the cup next season people will understand
>>69072067
false
>>69072067
Fucking fleeced
What is the better city to live in?
Calgary or Edmonton?
hall for hamonic, pulock, 1st
i cant wait to see who toronto gives up to get their top pairing rhd
marner?
How come the Kings arnt making a splash in the free agency?
>>69072071
agreed lol
>>69072073
Who knew that all the Oil was missing was Adam Larsson and Lucic before they could be a cup winning team.
>>69072109
Calgary. Closer to the mountains and you get the occasional chinook in the winters
>>69072123
It hasn't started and they have no cap space because of Duthtin Brown
>>69072109
Calgary, it's cleaner and less natives
>yfw Marc "the frog" Bergevin got fleeced by David "the cyclops" Poile
>>69072123
No one wants Duthin Brown.
>>69072114
"no"
>>69072004
Maybe they have their prospect pool in a shape where they don't want to shake it up too much and if you have the luck of Edmonton, you really don't want to trade a lot of picks away.
I dunno, I still think it's a good trade.
>>69072123
because it hasn't opened yet you stupid stinky bean monger
>>69072118
Still wouldn't be as bad as Taylor Hall for ADAM LARSSON
>>69072109
calgary is warmer but the city is laid out like some kindergarteners attempt at sim city, although its gotten better with stoney trail
edmonton is so fucking comfy to travel around
id say edmonton
>>69072144
they already made a worse trade i.mo
>>69072109
lived in calgary for a "good" part of my life
calgary is better
>>69072143
No he didnt you stupid fucking redditfaggot.
Weber is hands down a better defenseman than subban.
>>69072159
20 goaler for a top pairing shutdown defenseman
>>69072159
not even a bad trade if you have more than 3 brain cells
>>69072139
>>69072143
Can't the Kings buy him out or trade him ?
>>69072190
>Habs fans have memed themselves into delusion already
>>69072165
Let me come live there
>>69072048
EDM gets Larsson
NJ gets EDM's second round 2017 draft pick and a used zamboni
Montreal is a fucking bust. Bergevin got absolutely taken to the cleaners, fleeced
>>69072165
>edmonton is so fucking comfy to travel around
Nigga do you even live in Edmonton? The ring road is brand new, Edmonton was and still is one of the worst cities to drive in.
>>69072213
Nice meme tripcunt
>>69072195
>trade
no one is taking that anchor
>buy out
Ownership probably doesn't want to pay it and the GM doesn't want the dead money. Better plant some drugs on him if you want him gone
>>69072190
Oh I'm so sorry for you anon
>>69072183
Eh bitch give me dat ANE and I'll take you to Pete's after, bae.
>>69072165
lel wtf is up with the road layout here?
>>69072210
your welcome to my futon, ive sat on it maybe twice since i bought it
>>69072109
Calgary looks nicer, but is full of dickheads and hipsters and the layout is fucking retarded. It's set up in quadrants, so there are four different '35th Streets' in completely different corners of town. Plus the Saddledome is fucking garbage.
Edmonton is uglier, but it's full of working class, down to earth people. And the layout is pretty much god-tier - it's set up as a gigantic grid, with two big ring roads circling the city. And the new arena is almost done.
Edmonton all the way.
>>69072264
BTFO so bad they will never recover again.
>>69072225
well youre a fucking retard then, so piss off
>>69072260
Would weedman let me in? I'm not brown
I'm bored of life down here desu
>>69072225
It's a grid, ya fuckwit. If you miss a turn, just take the next one and you'll still get to wherever you're going.
>>69072264
>may the rebuild last forever
marc bergevin just got his ass spanked raw by that mastermind in nashville lol. p.k. is gonna be spitting chewing tobacco into a ten gallon hat while hill billies play banjo and hoot on a jug for him and shea weber is going to have to eat smelly cheese and then freeze to death while little men with funny mustaches mispronounce his name and smack him with loafs of bread. bergevin just got FLEECED
>>69072264
accurate and fair
>>69072193
2 time top 10 point producer in the league and a 3 time 25 goal scorer for a 4th defenseman. Taylor Hall had more shots on goal this year alone than Larsson has had in his entire career.
lol the haps
>>69072294
>not having the webm saved
>>69072308
Wow, didn't know they were trading for a defenseman because they wanted shots on goal
kek
>>69072308
larsson is a top pairing shutdown D and taylor is a 20 goal winger
>>69072285
>>69072291
Driving around isn't the problem, it's the other people on the road
>>69072289
>screencapping only the top of the article
poor form
>>69072342
He's only just played his first full season. Let's pump the fucking brakes on saying he's a definitive top pairing shutdown D.
>>69072344
Every city in the world is full of shit drivers, dude.
>having a general in the dead of the offseason
>>69072313
does ES actually come in tetrapacks
>>69072371
>choosing a day where a bunch of shit happened to say this
Poor form my friend
>>69072371
We aren't even into free agency yet, you fuckwit.
>>69072206
>>69072239
Im not a habs fan im just not an idiot.
You can immediately tell if someone is a casual if they think Subban is better than Weber.
>>69072290
i dont know how exciting it would be for you here, but hey if you ever make it to edmonton theres a new futon with your name on it
does anyone else think the trade is better for Montreal than all of the whiners seem to think?
>>69072371
we literally went through 4-5 threads today because of news
>>69072417
Weber's a better fit
>>69072392
Is this a BLACKED photo? send link to video if you can please.
>>69072398
> I see you are trying to trigger me m8
>>69072416
I don't know, Michigan is kinda boring but I suppose I would be just as bored elsewhere.
>>69072342
Vlassic, an actual first pairing shut down dman, had twice as many points and shots as Larsson and didn't have a PIM a game like Larrson did.
>>69072351
people know where it's from, cmon now
>>69072398
I don't need to think Subban is better, it's just objectively true
>>69072425
he's also a better player
>>69072371
i'm kinda surprised
i left, went out, and like 3 threads died by the time i returned
i didn't know people hung around in the house all day on a week day work day
lmfao the only thing subban is number one at is giveaways in his own zone
>>69072449
>he doesn't post from work
Step it up
>>69072449
It's so much easier to shitpost on mobile nowadays
shea weber is bad, pk subban is good. fact not opinion. end of discussion
who will look most wrong?
>weber in habs jersey
>hall in devils jersey
>subban in perds jersey
>trading away your 2nd best player for a literal who
>>69072002
>rags
>>69072449
i was posting from work all day
>>69072472
Wow you convinced me. I am now in the #SubbanClan
>>69072472
this is true
>>69072479
casual hockey fan spotted
>>69072438
brad marchand is objectively a better goal scorer than taylor hall
>>69072483
on the computer or on mobile?
how do people browse this shit on mobile? the screen is fucking small and you have to scroll forever
i don't get the whole chinannigans. Hall would have just slowed down Mcmeme and Pulju. The guy has no hockey iq whatsoever.
>>69072500
Fact not opinion
>>69072472
just in case u need facts tho
>>69072509
Open your eyes
>>69072509
Are you autistic?
Hall trade was good, shitheads. Larsson is a great defenseman.
reminder that Hall for Subban would have made more sense for both teams
>>69072509
>the screen is fucking small
Your eyes are in permanent squint, how can you not see the fucking screen, bro?
>>69072500
Marchand has a ring
end of discussion
>>69072509
mobile, the size doesnt bother me and it refreshes at the bottom of the page
it just sucks not having access to 45gb of images
>>69072524
Do Hall and Larsson next, thanks.
Threadly reminder that Erik Karlsson would not be in the NHL if he were average offensively.
>>69072530
who the fuck spends hours browsing a thread?
the only time i post on mobile is when something happens and i just leave a post and close the thread and don't bother reading replies + other comments in the thread
>>69072524
This chart doesn't show that Weber suppresses shot quality:
http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-measuring-d-by-quality-of-shots-against-1.391447
but the Preds as a team are very good at it so it might be systemic rather than something Weber does
And Subban is still better
In retrospect, the Subban trade was good only because Fabbro or Dougherty are going to be 1st line defensemen in 3 or 4 years
Short term though it might fuck up with retaining James Neal or Ryan Johansen though
>>69072559
I don't know I can read past a 3rd grade level so it doesn't take me hours to read through a thread.
>>69072524
doesn't take into account deployment, zone starts, qoc, or the sort of system the players play in (nsh purposely siphons offense to the boards and gives up a ton of low pctg. shots just like lemaire and julien's systems. even makes their goalers look better than they actually are on paper.)
casual stats for casual fans pig disgusting
>>69072190
Are you from 3 years ago?
Weber just came off the worst season of his career and has been declining the past two seasons. Hes 31 and is signed with Montreal until hes 40. Subban is in his prime at 27.
>>69072557
Threadly reminder that if Kane was average offensively he wouldn't be in the NHL.
>>69072500
Taylor hall has had 50 assists in a season and doesn't have a big nose.
>>69072578
Get lost you degenerate pedo faggot no-one wants to hear your worthless opinions.
>>69072431
>american flag
Yeah, absolute casual
>>69072441
casual
i'm exaggerating, but i barely read threads unless there's an image next to a post
i don't even read half my replies most of the time
>>69072600
Funny thing is you can be average offensively as a defenseman and still be a top 4 guy, as long as you're good defensively. Karlsson is shit defensively.
so /hoc/ explain to someone who rarely watches canadiens games
what's the point of trading a franchise defenseman the fan base loves and is good PR to anotehr franchise defenseman? what does weber offer they needed?
>>69072578
If they'll be 1st pairing defenseman, wouldn't having Weber for cheaper in the short-term be better?
>>69072578
>Short term though it might fuck up with retaining James Neal or Ryan Johansen though
It won't. They will get the money that Fisher and Ribeiro are taking up right now.
>>69072524
>per 60
weber has the ability to play more minutes per night than suban so that doesn't matter.
>>69072556
>>69072587
>deployment/zone starts
>qoc
those average out to noise over the long haul anon
they amount to nothing for defensemen who play half the game anyway
>>69072572
>shot quality
>as if its a thing
>>69072614
>calls people casual when hes wrong
ayyyy
>>69072635
Are you living in 2010? Everyone now agrees shot quality is real. That's why we have xG and shit because they're trying to figure out how it incorporate it.
>>69072589
>Weber just came off the worst season of his career
pretty sure he got the same total points as PK did
>>69072606
taylor hall has cartoonishly bloated monkey lips and plays with infinity draft lottery forwards. he also has 0 cups. he also is objectively an inferior goal scorer, to brad marchand
>>69072635
>he doesn't believe in shot quality
>>69072628
Meat and potatoes
>>69072622
meant to quote
>>69072586
>>69072627
i guess someone should remove Orr and Coffey out of HHoF
>>69072628
Stylistic change I guess, but he needs to be paired with a good puck mover to work. Doesn't carry the puck himself at all.
>>69072628
management doesnt want him to be the face of the franchise because he acts like a retard on and off the ice
>>69072662
isn't subban a pretty physical player too despite his average size?
>>69072635
U must be the dumbest nigga alive
>>69072628
trading away the coloreds. smith pelly last year, now pk is gone finally they can relax.
>>69072635
zone starts absolutely do not average out over time. greene/larsson were deliberately deployed on the defensive zone at a 2:1 rate against offensive zone starts because the rest of the defense are aids and couldn't handle the minutes
>>69072628
they already milked 10 million out of him for a children's hospital so they needed a new player to swindle, watch Weber make a similar donation and be mysteriously traded the next year
>>69072688
they still have Price though
>>69072635
Lmao at everything in this post. Underage pls go
PK is bette
>>69072652
>>69072660
woops yeah you're right, forgot about HDSC
subban is still better and younger
>>69072683
yeah but he doesn't have that >leadership
>>69072682
really I thought that nice negro boy was involved with the kids etc. whatever good image they want for a high profile player
>>69072676
They weren't memes like Karlsson.
>Trade Hall
>Give Yak more playing time
>McJesus to Yak for the one-T
>Turn Yak into an Ovechkin or Stamkos
This trade might work after all.
>>69072656
Look who PK plays with Weber will get EXPOSED with no Josi there
>>69072695
no one other than bergevin would take webers contract
>>69072622
are you fucking serious kippers still posts here
>>69072703
I agree that Subban is better but you shouldn't dismiss Weber's ability. He's not elite anymore but he is still pretty good.
>>69072657
brad Marchand is a manlet and Hall probably gives much better head because of those big lips while Marchand's nose stops him from deepthroating,
Weber's contract a shit
WTF is going on in leafville holy shit
>>69072682
>acts like a retard off the ice
Are you retarded? He may be a dumb diving goon on ice, but off-ice he literally pays millions to some child hospitals and plays hockey with toddlers and children for them to enjoy hockey
although he sometimes styles on them and thinks he is the shit for outdeking some kid standing on skates for the first time
>>69072628
Frogs and negroes are natural enemies. That and French management is worse than Finnish management.
>>69072723
Weber made Suter look amazing too
Larsson lead the league in defensive zone starts
Edmonton fans don't realize how good of a player they are getting. If you were waiting around for a Hall trade that you were a clear winner on then (You) would be waiting forever. They lost the trade big time but you become a much better team as a result.
Lucic + Larsson for Hall is a risk not a shot in the dark.
>>69072737
you're right. i didn't take the metrics into account i was just going off eyetest
this is a no BLACKS zone
>>69072747
Josi is elite and will probably put up 80+ points now that he doesn't have to cover for Weber
>>69072712
he comes into the rink wearing pimp suits, throws temper tantrums every single game, he pretends to be this mega suave ladies man to the media
in reality hes an ugly, autistic, slightly above average hockey player
>>69072733
Right, but typically defensemen don't age well. I'm sure he's more than capable of handling PKs minutes.
I just think it's a hilariously bad trade
>>69072749
I think it's more non-oilers fans ripping it hard. The oilers fans here seem concerned, but hopeful
>>69072723
Weber consistenty scores like 20 goals a season and is an amazing traditional dman
Subban has never even touched 20 goals before
>>69071672
>a top pairing shut down D
He's actually quite shit.
Here's a comparison of him to Dougie Hamilton. You know, Calgary's #5 or #4 defensemen.
http://public.tableau.com/shared/294QX3BST?:display_count=yes&:showVizHome=no
>>69072683
yes, he likes to throw his body around and will muck around in front of his net and in the corners but not to Weber's extent of course
>>69072742
damn give him a nobel peace prize, he plays hockey for charity nigga are you for real? that shit is crazy, nobody does that
>>69072793
At this point Weber is clearly the worse player, plus he has an $8M cap hit until he's almost 40
>>69072742
hes a proper house negro and he talks white too like a learned nigger does. he could probably read even. little shuck and jive, some slick foot. he's a good size littl nigger too that boy's got some meat on those monkey bones of his. proper house negroe
>>69072578
>muh m-magic b-beans will b-be on the first line! xD
You must actually be retarded if you unironically believe that. I'd love to see Poile read this post and laugh his ass off
>>69072782
What is this meme, great defenseman age extremely well, hell even Chara is playing great despite being 39 years old and Lidstrom was still playing among hte best in the NHL when he retired
Weber is a behemoth and will most likely age well, he's never really had any health problems or injury prone his career, don't expect him to drop off until his very late 30s
>>69072801
>throw his body around
i remember when he tried to take mcdavid into the boards and 18 year old connor brushed him aside easily
>>69072755
Advanced stats are the future kid. BJs/60 is just one of the stats where Hall excels and Marchand falls short
>>69072829
he also has less of a cap hit for the next six years, which puts him three years away from 40
so that's a pretty bad argument
>>69072831
kek
>>69072782
>defensemen don't age well
>>69072800
those charts are dumb and for baby brains who can't into metrics
>>69072842
>even Chara is playing great
lol
>>69071283
you now remember Coilersfags being in denial every time people pointed out how shitty their management is
>b-but C-chiarelli is n-new and t-the o-other g-guys have no say xD
>>69072829
Lol what? Weber is much better than PK, the only reason Weber isn't a 2 time norris trophy winner is because he's on a small market team
Weber is vital leadership also and is always among the top 3 goal scorers for the Predators, which speaks volumes of how valuable of a player he is
Subban is great in all, but I don't see him ever being legitimately better than Weber till Weber retires.
>>69072842
>hell even Chara is playing great despite being 39 years
Chara is a 6'9 pylon
>>69072747
Suter just had a career year in Minnesota.
>>69072723
Subban is just as likely to be exposed without Markov.
>>69072783
Rightfully so, they completely lost that swap so it's easy to meme on them.
The biggest meme would have been not doing anything as bold (like move Hall) at all to address the back end which some people are unironicly suggesting.
>>69072893
you have to be one of the worst, least knowledgable posters ever dude lol
>>69072934
>what are oilers and leafs fans
>>69072860
Except Subban's is through his prime while Weber should just start declining.
>>69072916
How is Subban more likely to be exposed now that he plays with someone ellse who can skate and move the puck as well as he does as opposed to a Russian dinosaur?
>>69072934
>I can't offer a legitimate rebuttal
y-you're wrong r-r-right guys!
>>69072961
So you're trading an offensive Dman who is worse defensively but is in his prime, for a well rounded defensemen who is better defensively but is past his prime, and the older defenseman is a lesser cap hit in a year with great UFAs
lol seems like it isn't so bad
>>69072961
Weber has already started declining. Wake up sheeple. That knee surgery was the beginning of the end.
>at least poolparty wont get drafted by oilers
>drafted by oilers
>w-well maybe the 1st picks finally start paying off and they get their shit together
>this trade
why?
>>69072893
>nuh uh
Sorry bro Subban is younger, better as of now, and has a much more favorable contract going forward. There's good reason why everyone is freaking out over this lopsided deal.
>>69073024
>another clueless tard that thinks the trade is bad
>>69072962
Markov is really good at hockey mang
>>69072959
Fuck you, faggot. What shit team do you cheer for?
>>69073026
>nd has a much more favorable contract going forward.
what? no he fucking doesn't, he's the highest paid defenseman in the league
>Canadiens
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>69073059
getting larsson is a good idea but that's a high price
If you honestly five a shit about the Oilers or the Hasb you are a mong. Who cares, they'll be shit anyway.
>>69073086
shut the fuck up you faggot
>>69073105
Can anyone explain why the fuck the Canadiens would do this, other than they purposely want to lose? Do they just hate black people?
>>69073009
Don't take it from me. Read what Montreal fans think of the trade.
http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2016/6/29/12061540/pk-subban-trade-analysis-shea-weber-montreal-canadiens-worst-trade-ever-fire-bergevin
>>69073115
I like Weber and I'm sad he'll have to suffer on a shitty frog team
>>69073105
>just wanted to be like his idol Grapes and wear terrible suits
>because he's black everyone thinks he's a pimp
Kek
>>69073126
Quit being a faggot
>>69073086
The Wongs.
>>69073133
I honestly do not give a flying fuck about what the french think of Shea Weber
he is among the absolute best in the league
>>69073126
That's what I thought. Post your team and get ripped like the rest of us, or go fuck your sister.
>>69073081
he's a smart player but he's clearly lost a step over the last couple years.
>>69073026
>better as of now
Subban scored fucking 6 goals last season while Weber scored 20 and was the core reason they even got to game 7 both rounds of the playoffs, had Forsberg been able to help out the team who knows what the Preds woulda done
If you're only source is a bunch of dumb fucking hockey fans of facebook and your favorite hockey blog then your argument is as stupid as the garbage you're spewing
Weber is a better goal scorer, defender, and a fucking monster at checking people, his only problem is moving the puck and his contract expiring when he was what 41 or 42. My only problem with that is the fact that the Predators by then will most likely have Fabbro or Dougherty taking the reins as one of the top defenders
>>69073131
They don't, they know Weber is better and will contribute more to their team
>>69073163
Do Canadians do that?
>>69073163
i don't have one, so i'll fuck your mom
you stupid fucking faggot
>>69073160
What about non-French?
http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2015/7/23/9019367/shea-weber-may-have-started-declining
>>69073114
if that's the price then that's the price, chia didnt seem to pleased about it but what can he do? the team cannot advance without a high minute right shot defensemen
>>69073195
Weren't you the one who wanted to trade Weber during the playoffs because Josi, Ellis, and Ekholm passed him?
>>69073202
>too much of a pussy to post his team
>he's a fucking Sens fan
>>69073200
You stay out of this, stripes.
>>69073212
that's not how negotiating works. there's still plenty of time until the start of the season
>>69073160
Shea Weber was an absolute fucking turnstile in the playoffs, the guy has Phaneuf-tier footspeed now. You can't keep viewing him from the lens of 2010-14
>>69073255
>TELL ME YOUR TEAM NOOOOOW
>STOP BEING MEAN TO MY TEAM
looool, you faggots are the worse
>>69073195
he was horrendous against the sharks and his foot speed has gotten steadily worse over the last 3 seasons. his breakout passes are mediocre. his mobility and lackluster puckmoving make him a candidate for a rapid decline.
subban is every bit as skilled as weber offensively, in fact, he has better hands and is the far superior distributor of the 2.
weber scores 20 goals cause nashville consistently memes offense from its blue line. subban had a down year, as did his team.
he is a younger, better D. the stats show it too. and his game is one that lends itself to longevity and is the direction the league as a whole is headed.
>>69073195
Wake up dude. Weber just scores more goals, but scoring isn't everything. Subban does that everything else better, including creating more goals. See >>69072524
Looking at their ages, one is most likely going to improve and one decline. Saving $1 a year isn't worth it.
>>69073203
Literally every forward ever has begun to decline when they turned 29
Why is this fucking news to ANYONE?
"player older than 29 begins to decline"
WOW REALLY lol
>>69073244
I wanted to trade Weber for cap reasoning, to get a forward, not for 2 million more a fucking year, and yeah in the playoffs those 3 did play lights out also, and Josi is better than Weber right now
But Subban over Weber, no fucking way is he better than them, I'd say he's on the same level as ekholm. Especially for 9 million. The direction the Predators should be going is getting solid centers not fluky dman
>>69073289
you beta ass pussy maple nigger bitch. Name your shitty ass basement team now cunt
>>69073279
Chia is taking a massive gamble here, hoping Larsson's underlying numbers are the real thing. And I'm pretty sure he's banking on Lucic, maybe even Demers signing here. Worst case scenario, Larsson is a dud, and Lucic/Demers sign elsewhere. High risk, high reward but if this backfires, it's going to be utterly spectacular in the most fucking brutal way.
>>69073322
>basement
higher than yours KEK
you bitch ass faggot
>>69073309
subban is light years better than ekholm. not even close. the issue here is that your familiarity with the player is pretty much purely on paper. its really transparent.
>woke up from a nap
>I didn't actually dream that Edmonton traded their second best player.
>I didn't actually dream that the Habs gave Subban to the south
>mfw
>>69073354
>that flag
>not basement
sure thing faggot
>>69073363
did you dream that the lightning got stammer for 8 years for 8.5
>>69073373
>flag has to indicate the team i cheer for
HAHAHAHA
GET A LOAD OF THIS FUCKING FAGGOT
>>69073379
They should have waiting a day or two to announce that. Too much to meme about and they throw it in with everything else, inconsiderate as fuck.
>>69073396
All Canadian teams suck
>>69073379
No, I dreamed that the Vegas team really called their team the Black Knights.
>mfw
>>69073359
The issue here is he's an absolute fucking retard
how is he still getting (You)s after saying the trade can only be justified because of literal whos like Fabbro and Doughliteralwho becoming "first line" players (nevermind the fact he's casual enough to be calling defenders 'first line' instead of pairing)
>>69073396
>not cheering for your hometown team through thick and thin
You fucking goddamn dirty bitch bastard casual.
>my fucking face when wongs and laffs thought they would get Stammer
>>69073410
What if he doesn't cheer for a Canadian team?
>>69073435
Then he is a faggot like the other leaf is saying.
>>69073340
My only concern is that the West is faster and Larsson's biggest weakness happens to be foot speed so I don't know how that'll work out for ya
>>69073426
hes hfboards af lol its embarrassing
>>69073434
you're forgetting buffalel whose GM literally spoke to the media about being able to win with 10m+ cap hit players
>>69073434
Enjoy the clots blots fan
>>69073426
>perds fans
>>69073432
>HE THINKS BECAUSE I SAY NOT EVERYONE FROM THEIR HOME TOWN HAS TO CHEER FOR THEIR HOME TOWN TEAM INDICATES I DON'T CHEER FOR MY HOME TOWN TEAM
holy shit! this faggot is unbelievable!
ps - your team fucking sucks dick you retarded cock slurping faggot
>>69073462
so is the west just overall better. cause ive seen people say that its bigger, stronger, grittier, more skilled, and now faster too?
how come no cup?
>>69073291
Every bit skilled offensively except for scoring goals, which is the point of the sport, and meme offense from its blue line is a dumb ass argument, it's called having great defenders
Saying Subban was having an off year is unfair because Weber was coming off a surgery offseason
That meme stats means nothing also, it just shows that Subban is an effective shooter and can setup his forwards to score, We know Weber does that and puts point s of his own on the board
>>69073359
>>69073359
I'm not the one basing my arguments on stats
I'm saying face value Weber is asked to carry the team which he mostly does, I don't think Subban is going to do the things he was asked to do, especially for 2 million more which might affect signing James Neal or Ryan Johansen
>>69073481
Wonder when his mixtape comes out
>>69073494
too many memes this year, it happens
>>69073467
even hfboards wouldn't name dougherty as a potential first pairing defender
>>69073481
Look at this fucking human wreckage
>stamkos would rather go to shitty toronto where the weather is shit all year and the city fucking sucks because traffic everywhere over staying in a beautiful city with beautiful weather, low taxes and low media pressures
-6ix fags
>>69073478
>w.. we didnt want stamkos anyway
>h.. he said he wanted to stay but he didnt mean it.
>uh..
>>69073494
Pens were a better team than SJ. The only thing the East has over the west is the number of superstar players, but they're mostly memes anyways.
>>69073494
because the sharks memed through the playoffs instead of an actually good team
>>69073542
>tampa
>beautiful city
>>69073542
>he can never be proud of where hes from because its an irrelevent shit hole
>stay at home defenseman like Larsson and Gudbranson are worthless
>All defenseman need to be le epic play puck movers like my beloved idol Pylon Kang Simian
>>69073569
Compared to Toronto it's heaven
>>69073396
disgusting desu senpai
>>69073579
People just love sucking Taylor Hall dick senpai
>>69073579
Stay at home defenseman implies that the player is actually good defensively. Larsson is a swede who can't box out or clear the net and Gudbranson is a snail who gets skated by constantly.
>>69073569
wew lad
>>69073426
>>69073426
>not keeping up with your prospects
This is why you're a massive fucking faggot and you should in fact stop posting
>>69073569
Tampa fucking sucks too many niggers, but Bradenton and Sarasota on the other hand though
>>69073623
Tampa is nice. Much better than Jacksonville.
>>69073481
>performance moment
kek
Post the skyline of the city you were born in.
>based Victoria
>>69073589
did someone from ontario bang ur mum?
>>69073623
>generic skyline
>its in florida
WEW
>>69073623
I've built bigger cities out of legos
>>69073579
i thought people were memeing, but people ACTUALLY dress like this in public
Texas Rangers blew a 5 run lead in the 9th inning
come ragspost with us >>69073274
>>69073665
>toronto is like this 30 days of the year
WEW
![01%20cc%20northave%20beach%20aerial[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ARzrqXd.jpg "01%20cc%20northave%20beach%20aerial[1]"){kind=small}
>>69073650
I don't need a sunset to make my city look awesome
>>69073687
No one carea
>>69072697
GO BOLTS!
We will dominate the Eastern Conference for another 5 years!
will the snes, ruins, or laffs meme into the playoffs this year?
![hf_pier_4_1270x560_FitToBoxSmallDimension_Center[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y8RBhr2.jpg "hf pier 4 1270x560 FitToBoxSmallDimension Center[1]")
>>69073665
what pictures are you looking for m8?
>>69073693
Too generic, Broman Josi.
>>69073636
reading HFboards doesn't count as keeping up with prospects dumbfuck
I'm actually moving to Bradenton in a month Lightning bros, what's the proper procedure I should go, should I
A. continue being a fan of the Predators desptie them trading for a nigger
B. Switch to Lightning fan and relish in a public every 5 miles
>>69073746
>relish in a public
what
>>69073746
Stick with the Preds, shitbird. Don't be a worthless free agent fan.
>>69073665
I'm sure Stammer would love to play in a depressing shithole full of Muslims and chinks.
>>69073746
God damn you are such a fucking faggot
>>69073746
>public
haha you did an embarassing
@69073746
filtered, no more (You)s for you
Are the Devils elite?
>>69073746
can you please stop posting here
>>69073767
T. pol tard from no where ontario whose never been to toronto
>>69073788
Yes
>where is grease during all the fun?
>>69073788
actually yes
Carolina is the next team that needs to trade D for a forward
>>69073721
Or watching admirals games/highlights, Dougherty again hasn't played much so the jury is still out on him, he could play well, plus he's a second round Preds dman, those historically are G.O.A.T. tier
dante Fabbro is among the most talented ever drafted by the Preds also, so don't meme me you faggot, you're just mad your organization isn't great at developing prospects, much less the best at developing Dmen
>>69073794
I was born and raised in Toronto bud. It's a terrible city.
>>69071283
they literally traded a subban, a guy in his prime with 6 years left for weber, a guy on his tail end and 10 years left hahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahaha
>>69073788
>Schneider
>Hall
>some other guys on D
Who can stop them?
>>69073788
Shero's actually done it, the absolute madman. He's made the Devils fun to watch again
>>69073746
>racist is moving to Florida
Story checks out
>>69073785
please x and c are right nect to eaxh other, try to understand
>>69073765
I won't be able to watch Preds games except on 240p russian streaming sites, and I'll only be 50 miles away from the Lightning stadium
>>69073494
>so is the west just overall better. cause ive seen people say that its bigger, stronger, grittier, more skilled, and now faster too?
It's much easier to get into west ploffs. Check the points this year. The west has a couple juggernauts but everything else is shit. The east is overcrowded with teams that could go either way.
>tfw team/management isn't memeing like everyone else
>>69073822
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but the only people who say things like that are dumb faggots who can't hack it in their hometown.
fabbro is smart but his ceiling is 2nd pairing. his stock inflated cause of world juniors. same reason chychruns dropped. a bunch of scouts memed about how fabbro was better after the tournament. chychrun will be the better pro. mcavoy and sergachev were my favorite d in this draft. juolevi is a meme from my viewings also
>>69073818
>muh m-magic b-beans are g-good I swear xD
even hfboards wouldn't mention the words "first line" near a literal who like dougherty
>>69073861
successful people rarely stay put in their hometown.
>>69073665
Toronto vs Tampa Bay: which Would you choose?
Toronto the laughing stock of the NHL and Tampa Bay back to back ECF appearances (if not for their Vezina candidate goalie being hurt or Stammer not needing surgery then back to back ECF Champs)
No income tax in Florida, plus Stamkos doesn't have to sell his beach front property to live in a frozen hell hole with ungrateful Leafs fans that throw their jerseys on the ice.
As a hardcore Oiler fan i'm happy with the Hall trade. The guy scores alot of points sure but he dogs it on the backcheck and honestly looks and feels like a douche. Wouldn't surprise me if McDavid made a request to get him off the team because he still hasn't mentally grown up enough. As for Larsson, he's only going to get better and is a right handed d'man the oilers havent had for ever. It saves up cap space to try for Lucic but I would rather try for Okposo or Ericsson.
The team got better today
>>69073850
Do you have to actively try to be this big of a piece of shit, or does it come natural to you?
apology for poor english
when were you when montreal dies?
i was sat at home eating poutine when marc ring
‘pk is trade’
‘no’
>>69073895
>honestly looks and feels like a douche
>>69073914
kek
>>69073650
pic related
a-at least we still have Gally
>>69071306
Stamkos didn't want to play with the laffs because of Mitch. He flat out said "I don't want to play with Bitch Tarder. That goof is a weak baby who only looks good because he stat pads against 16 year olds. Fuck that bust, the first time he gets checked by a man his faggot body will explode into dust."
>>69073907
Believe me he's just as bad if not worse in /nfl/. An utterly worthless person.
>>69073914
>poutine
>it's literally just chips, cheese and gravy
i thought it was some classy meal by it's frog name
but it's just something from the chipshop
>>69073825
>subban
>a guy in his prime
He's already past it. He's only going downwards now.
>>69073914
PK didn't do shit for the Habs when price went down except start talking shit about how he was better than everyone else. PK left becuase he knew he wouldn't have a chance of winning a Cup in Montreal and is in his prime.
>>69073948
>leg blown off by Weber slapper
RIP.
>>69073907
Stop giving him (You)s
>>69073967
he injures at least one teammate a year
>>69073962
if that's the case then weber is in dumpsterville already then friendo :^)
>>69073650
I was born in D.C., the city without a skyline.
>>69073861
the ironic thing is toronto is full of dumb faggots who couldn't hack it in their hometown
there are a shitton of transplants from vancouver/victoria, montreal and ottawa who couldn't find jobs in those cities
>>69073932
what did he mean by this
What did he mean by this?
https://vine.co/v/5zAMFv9nt70
>>69073964
>PK left becuase he knew he wouldn't have a chance of winning a Cup in Montreal
>goes to Nashville
>>69073907
Your amerifags are just mad because you're always wrong, typically the Euros particularly the Finns appreciate good posting and opinions when they see it
>>69073873
Because the Predators have a history of getting those whos into top players maybe.... maybe that's why :^)
Like I'll say it now Vladislav Kamenev will be a top 6 center for the Predators in 2 or so years, and he'll be great at it
>Howe can one city be so underrated?
>>69073949
They ran that quote on Sportscentre today, I kind of feel bad for Mitch Manlet.
TFW Canada realizes they suck at running hockey organizations in 45 minutes.
Taylor Hall traded to NJ
PK Subban traded to Nashville
Stamkos chooses Tampa over Toronto
>Inb4 all Canadian born players, Canadian teams suck
>>69074030
Kamenev and Saros are the only Preds prospects that really need to hit. Anything else is just gravy.
>tfw you hope Mitchey Marner doesnt get murdered by Weber
>>69073889
http://theleafsnation.com/2016/6/28/why-the-stamkos-tax-may-actually-be-in-toronto-s-favour
>>69074060
Damn dude, you're the first one to make that joke today. I bet it feels good to be that original.
>>69074018
SUBBAN: I FEEL A WHOLE LOT CLOSER TO WINNING STANLEY CUP
What the fuck was his problem?
>>69073949
lmao
>>69074075
>yfw weber explodes matthews' face in the first game they play against each other
>>69074096
Needs more truculence
>>69073788
Bummed that Lars had to go (hoped the Oil would bite on Sevs), but Shero made a sucker out of Chia. Honestly, NJD has to be a wild card team this coming season.
>>69074045
Honestly the city is underrated but it is still garbage
>>69074081
It must suck to watch America be better at the only claim to fame your country has.
>>69074062
nah, Dougherty has a lot of potential and after this season we'll see, I personally think he has a lot of potential to be a 2nd pairing, I won't mark out 1st pairning, because well look at Josi right now, if I said 4 years ago he'd be a top 5 defensemen I'd be laughed at also
Fiala is pretty good, he's just having a rough time on smaller rinks
>>69074112
>its a laffs future ruined by injuries episode
you may only reply to this post if your team didnt completely fuck up their offseason in the past 24 hours
sorry habs fans you can skip this one
>>69074119
Pretty comfy if you ask me.
>>69074096
3 players on this team making 6million a year that arent worth it
>>69074096
After forcing out Chiarelli, I thought Neely's guys were the problem in Boston's braintrust.
It turns out all Boston execs are absolute madmen.
>>69074138
redeemed a years worth of panic
>>69074127
>because well look at Josi right now, if I said 4 years ago he'd be a top 5 defensemen I'd be laughed at also
so I guess Hawks fans should've expected to hit on every 2nd round or later dman pick after they hit on Keith huh? you're a retarded fucking mongrel
>>69074096
He was riding high after somehow making off with Pulju at the draft.
But seriously, he's gambling that Larsson will be the top pairing RHD that the team needs, and it's a fucking ballsy gamble. It's either going to make him look like a fucking genius, or an absolute drooling retard - there is no middle ground in this deal.
Best fucking skyline N.A. coming through.
I met Joe Thornton at a charity ball hockey game in charlestown when I was 11 and he ripped ass and laughed about it and said "Who stepped on a duck?" in front of like 10 of us
>>69074163
>sweeney
>chiarelli
>benning
The holy trinity of JUST
>>69074163
>drafting some guy projected in the 3rd round in the 1st round
>last year 3 consecutive 1st round picks were guys ranked in the 2nd/3rd/4th rounds
that's nuts
>>69074175
name me currently active premier defenders (top pairing on good team) who hadn't established themselves at age 23
>>69074138
It could go either way. I knew >we were going to get raped for a D man, but wow.
Why are Habs fans so disloyal to abandon their team ?ive literally seen thousands of Habs fans saying they are quiting on them for good
do they have the worst fan base in /hoc/?
>>69074189
honestly astounding that they went to 2 cup finals and won one too
>>69074161
>trades the only player who is
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>69074168
Or because the organization is amazing at developing defensive prospects, seriously look at what they've made Weber, Suter, Ellis, Josi, and Ekholm just as of recently
>>69074138
Is Matthews going to be the first American captain of the Leafs or will it go to someone else?
More importantly, how near to a hospital is Don Cherry going to be if that gets announced?
>>69074207
Pretty sure Duncan Keith took forever. And didn't Weber take a while? I didn't say I liked the gamble, but it's a gamble nonetheless.
>>69074138
Here I come out of the woodwork.
I was going to joke about asking Montreal for a prospect while they're still retarded today, but they don't have any good ones
>montreal
Ducks fan reporting
You guys don't have shit on my epic skyline
Do you think Hall ($6/yr) being replaced by Lucic ($7.5M/yr) is worth it?
Lucic hits and gets penalties.
>>69074240
Could see it going to Rielly, now that Stamkos isn't coming to TO
>>69074138
All that needs to be done for Rutherford to make this offseason great is to trade Fleury. Could he get a return better than Andersen?
>>69074221
French are known to surrender.
>>69074263
no. Maroon is Lucic lite. I'd rather get okposo or Eriksson
>>69074262
which one of those is the scientology building
>>69074240
matt sundean was captain i thought
>>69074127
Others might be good but no one else is getting penciled into the lineup like those two. They need to be ready soon and if they aren't then it becomes something to be addressed in the next two years. The d prospects have time, probably won't desperately need one to be ready until Ellis' contract runs out.
>>69074240
>tfw no good ol kingston ontario boy
;_; come back dougie
>>69074263
>Lucic ($8M/yr)
Every time I see his name mentioned it seems like his price goes up
>>69074240
Also just checked, he would be the first American captain.
>>69074221
It's the latest self-inflicted injury by Habs administration since the 1990s (arguably 1980s, too)
>>69074278
Eriksson is coming to Vancouver.
Lucic is going to Oilers because of "muh Boston connections"
>>69074289
>Mats Sundin
>American
American hockey "knowledge"
>>69074316
The Canucks will sign absolutely nobody of note, and overpay whoever they sign by $1m/year, minimum.
>>69074321
yeah he's a boston boy
future elite
Tampa Skyline
Tampa Bay includes St Petersburg, Clearwater, Sarasota but this is where the team plays.
>>69074243
weber's 23 year old season was amazing, as were his 22 and 21 year old seasons.
keith, yes.
there's also stralman and giordano.
vast majority of good-to-elite defenders had been well established by age 23.
coilers are counting on Larsson joining that incredibly small group
>>69074292
I personally can't wait for the Kamenev/Saaros era to begin
the new >finnish goaltending matched with a cutie russian boy as a top 6 is always something you want to see on a team
Fiala will be ready after next year also, he might replace James Neal if they can't keep, though I don't think he'll keep up in production
>>69074305
Clark didn't get his captaincy until his 6th year, Sundin until his 4th, Gilmour until his 4th, Vaive until his 4th, Sittler until his 4th, etc
Gotta play a few years and prove yourself first. Phaneuf was an exception to the rule
>>69074259
this would have been better before the draft
>>69074218
It wasn't that bad. Oilers have a ton of forwards and poopoopeepee can replace hall soon.
>>69074378
captains are trending young these days when it's a bonafide star, can't sit on a guy
>>69074359
>there are people who would actually rather play in toronto than here
>>69074360
To be fair Larsson was on a team with a coach that can't into player development.
I feel bad for San Jose cause they're going to go from breddy good to extremely mediocre really fast.
>>69074378
matthews is the epitome of le meat n potatoes character man he's not going to have to wait that long
>>69074397
Would have been better if they had Kyle Connor in the system instead of le can't skate or score man
captains dont mean shit lol. real life isnt a movie these guys dont give a shit about each other, its their job to play hockey good. they arent in the locker room listening to their captain give a speech
When does hoc discuss good teams and not just meme teams that are so '''''cool''''' because they dont win anything
Why haven't the Leafs gotten a RHD yet? Is Lou waiting for other GMs to finish memeing?
>>69074436
skating is literally his best trait you dumbfuck
>>69074430
yeah he's a square reminds me of sid or bergy. le no fun and games man
>>69074378
Having your young, newly acquired, face of the franchise become the captain is a hot new thing in the NHL. Crosby, Toews, Landeskog, Karlsson to name a few.
>>69074426
Yeah the Marlies...
new thread when?
>>69074456
>why is hoc discussing teams that were involved in trades today
Calm your autism faggot
>>69074465
>not knowing who le can't skate or score man is
>>69074359
i havent been to that new park area since they put all the lighting and stuff in
>>69074502
griffin winefart
>>69074496
never ever
>>69074476
or toews
>>69074276
andersen got an extra pick because of his RFA rights , best you could expect from MAF is probably a 2nd rounder 2bh
>>69074426
You Canadians lie to yourself with every superstar and let your media feed to bullshit that Canadians would rather live in Canada than in paradise.
Stamkos is the newest example and before him it was Corey Perry coming home to Ottawa...they make millions playing the sport they love and get to do in paradise. Why would they go back to the frozen hell hole they grew up in when they will be loved there regardless?
>>69074551
because toronto actually exists and tampa bay doesn't
>>69074551
>before him it was Corey Perry coming home to Ottawa
u wot
new bread where
>>69074565
In terms of the NHL Tampa Bay is a powerhouse and Toronto is the NHL's basement
Mathews won't have to play for the Marlies becuase the Leafs are literally the Marlies
>>69074551
It's straightforward
>get to live in perfect weather during the season, enjoying 20-30C days making millions
>during the offseason get to head back home to canada during the only months it's actually nice
If I was a pro i'd never play for a canadian team ever except Vancouver but they suck right now
>>69074585
Toronto is an existing city while Tampa Bay is an imaginary city, you dip
>>69074589
Even Vancouver is a bad idea...it's literally the most expensive city in North and I assume South America
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@adater
Anonymous ex Hab to Toronto Star: "They hated how much fun he had. The fact that he never sulked and pouted, win or lose, just bugged them"
Matthews will actually leave Toronto for Arizona in the end
>palm trees, cocunuts, orange juice, disney world, beach babes, sunshine
>frozen tundra, millions of casuals swarming you, tim hortons sucks, bad miserable team, muslims, post-apocalyptic wasteland after financial collapse
easy choice for stammer tb.h
>>69074595
Someone doesn't understand what a metropolitan is
It's understandable when America has 9.2 times the population of Canada
>>69074607
Not really if you live in the suburbs, only downtown Vancouver. I wouldn't care to much if I made millions either, Vancouver has alright weather. I still rather pick an American city, Dallas, Florida, Tampa, LA, Anaheim, San Jose would all be awesome cities to live in while playing a sport making millions
>>69071555
Everyone played hardball with Edmonton because they knew they were desperate.
Fuck I'm gonna miss that sexy son of a bitch.
Does anyone engage the cuck puck movie poster?
>>69074624
We all know this except for the willfully ignorant Leafs fans, they love to hype themselves up before the obvious all
>>69072475
Weber in habs jersey, ill miss that son of a bitch
>>69074672
The taxes and property costs while playing in the NHL (lower wages than the other big 3 sports leagues) would hurt alot. Like you just said picking state like Florida, Texas or even Tennessee with no income tax could net you more money long term and you could always vacation in Canada in the offseason (the summer) when it's actually beautiful and bearable.
>>69074262
Why the hell are living in a Spanish Mission? Are you an orphan?
>>69074321
>not getting the joke
>>69074697
Literally as disgusting as seeing Subban in a Smashville jersey.
Those franchises switched faces, it's fucking crazy.
>>69074719
>The taxes and property costs while playing in the NHL (lower wages than the other big 3 sports leagues) would hurt alot
They also hurt a lot being a normal dude
The difference is when making a couple million a year that doesn't matter at all, you can literally live off of interest the rest of your life. 2 million in a savings account can earn you up to 200k a year if you're low balling it
>>69074359
>you will never see a star again in your natural life
Holy fuck, turn down the light pollution.
>>69074766
Taken from an article the other day:
Stamkos' hometown Maple Leafs, due to a 53.53 percent provincial/federal tax code, would have to offer him $12.37 annually over seven years to net the same as he'd make over eight years at $8.5 million in Tampa, according to national tax guru Robert Raiola.
>>69074779
I seriously hate the light pollution all over Tampa Bay...if you go to any country outside of Pinellas, Hillsborough or Manatee you can see the stars, other wise it's just the moon.
We are debating an idea to start LED street lights that only shine down and with a brighter light and immediately above them zero light pollution which would allow for stary skies and brighter streets.
>>69074864
County*
>>69074832
My point is it doesn't matter, the difference in salary wouldn't matter because you're still living comfortably for the rest of your life and your children will live comfortable and their children will as well. Imaging if Stamkos just invests 4 million and makes 400k a year off of that, going on that 10% interest rate and accounting for 3% inflation he'd have 180 million dollars after 40 years. The amount you make doesn't fucking matter if you just throw a years worth of salary in the bank
>>69074893
Yeah, your thinking too much like someone making a regular salary. When you have the chance to make a few more millions to play in a city with tax benefits, it's different than someone making a regular wage working for their entire life. Athletes generally work until they are in their mid 30s (god willing) and want to make as much as possible and then they can budget their money for the rest of their and their children's lives.
>>69074948
It's even simpler as an athlete though
Stamkos can take one year of his salary in any city no matter what the taxes are and he can earn upwards of 400k a year on that and after 40 years he'll be sitting on almost 200 million not counting sponsorship's. This is just a small amount of money for him, he'd still have millions to blow on cars and houses and whatever else he wants.
>>69072109
Edmonton is basically the buffalo of canada if that puts things into perspective
>>69075048
It's funny that assume most athletes aren't already doing what you suggest with all their financial team's advice. And if given the chance to make a an extra million or two in another city, they could increase that interest or the ability to invest in another asset in their portfolio. It's hard to argue they want to make less when they can make more, unless you factor in their ego and a winning team (Lightning) and tax benefits that allow you to make the same amount as Toronto (losing team) paying 12.37 mil a year.
>>69073462
Nah man, east is the speed zone. Just look at tampa and pitsburgh. The west is more known for a heavier/more physical game
>>69075403
True
Kings, Ducks, Sharks = {hysical
Sekera - Larsson
Klefbom - Demers
Davidson - Fayne
Oesterle - Gryba
If that's what the Oilers' blueline ends up becoming they might have a chance at 3rd in the Pacific or a wild card slot. All they have to do is breakout their forwards and not hemorrhage shots against.
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