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WAS:Keith Marshall left off roster projection
OAK:Amari Cooper 'excellent' in offseason program
BAL:Mike Wallace: I have a lot up my sleeve
SEA:Tyler Lockett 'right in the middle' of plans
DEN:Negotiations not weighing on Manny Sanders
BUF:Watkins noncommittal on training camp status
JAC:Julius Thomas 'nearly unstoppable' at OTAs
DET:Calvin Johnson knew 2015 would be last season
WAS:Redskins 'loved how Crowder looked' in spring
OAK:Aldon Smith's probation violation not new
CLE:RG3 has been coachable in offseason progr
>>69048398
Also first for Bronies winning back to back
texans
First for Bengals
>>69048398
>CLE:RG3 has been coachable in offseason progr
If being "coachable" is a sign of progress then Browns fans should not be too excited about him.
>>69048398
>Keith Marshall
I had to look him up. I guess he's a rook?
>>69050149
Seriously, shouldn't every player be coachable? Hell, I'm coachable.
16th for Bengals fans are good people and know how to throw a fucking wedding.
>>69050206
TYBB
Seahawks!
whole lotta 0 playoff wins ITT
>all this Benglels
>>69052560
>go to Cincy for a wedding
>tfw your a victim of a hit and run
The Bangles are gonna win the owl this year and there is literally nothing you can do about it.
>>69050206
TYBB
Chase Daniel when Bradford eventually gets injured
>>69052950
Honestly, I prefer Daniels to Sanchez. There was a time where you knew what you got with Sanchez...then it turned into you knew the defenses knew what he got and you had to suffer through it all the same.
Daniels is at least as good as today Sanchez but with the appeal of defenses not having years of tape on his bad habits.
daily reminder Rivers is better than Roethlisberger and Eli
>>69053275
Ben and Rivers is a toss up, but definitely Rivers over Eli.
There is the question of how much Rivers benefited from Tomlinson and Gates. A large portion of his career he had one of the elitest RBs in history keeping defenses on edge. That affects a QB's ability to build numbers easily.
>>69048410
the Loins lost the best receiver in recent history
the puckers just got back their best receiver
doesn't seem like you have much to be comfy about
>>69053516
That doesn't even consider the changes the Vikings have made. Bears should be improved a bit with Kevin White actually playing and their defensive additions too.
>>69053338
Im a Boys fan and even I know Eli>Rivers.
Eli has carried shit teams his whole career. The mid-late 00s Chargers were easily the most talented roster in the NFL at that time and Rivers never won them shit
Ti- COWBOYS DYNASTYs OFFICIAL QB RANKINGS SPONSORED BY XHAMSTER
Elite
1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Romo
Quality Franchise QB
5. Roethlisberger
6. Wikson
7. Rivers
8. Palmer
9. Newton
10. Dalton
11. Luck
?. Dak Prescott
Mid Tier
12. Stafford
13. Manning
14. A. Smith
15. Matt Ryan
16. Joe Flacco
17. Kirk Cosuins
18. Tannehill
19. Derek Carr
Low Tier
20. Cutler
21. Bradford
22. Bridgewater
23. Bortles
24. Osweiler
25. Winston
26. Mariota
27. Tyrod Taylor
Meme Tier
28. Sanchez
29. Gabbert
30. Geno Smith
31. RG3
?. Jared Goff
?. Carson Wentz
>>69053628
fuck
I agree with you
>>69053628
>15. Matt Ryan
>16. Joe Flacco
these are two elite qbs here. u have them in the wrong tier
>>69053628
You're telling me, as somebody who has supposedly watched the Cowboys for a few years, that with the defense on the field in a 3rd and 12 situation you would be more scared of Andy Dalton than Eli Manning
You and that other faggot on mlb (probably you as well) are a disgrace
>>69053596
That's a joke, right? OBJ, Victor Cruz, Burress, Tiki, that one 3 headed monster year of RB led by Brandon Jacobs gave Eli more wide spread and open offenses than Gates and Tomlinson. This isn't even accounting for the defenses. NYG D of that era > SD defense.
Also, the most talented roster in the NFL was the easily the 07 Pats. The Giants had the benefit of a better defense, the offense on a manic hot streak, and late season opponents (starting with the Eagles) showing vulnerabilities with the near perfect Pats...and it still took a fucking miracle for the Gmen to win.
Through the length of their careers, Rivers had had much worse teams than Eli and still has more wins since 2006.
>>69053817
Giants defense was on more than a hot streak than their Offense. IIRC they set a playoff sack record or got most turnovers in the playoffs that year or something
>>69053834
Truth man, that 2007 defense was stacked and knew it was Strahan's last chance. It's amazing how much that affects player's will to win.
>>69053628
First 2 tiers are pretty accurate, aside from Romo and Dalton.
>>69053873
>Cowboys have best record and best regular season defense in 2007
>worst o line that year
>Wade Phillips rests all the starters week 17
>that plus the playoff Bye 3 weeks without playing
>play Giants in divisional round
>play rusty
>oline can't save Romo
>lose to meme magic
.___.
I found mayo on /fa/
>>>/fa/11455163
>>69054023
lmao
Was 2008 the best qb draft of all time?
two, count 'em, TWO elite QBs in the same draft.
>>69054023
Jesus that's sad.
>>69053516
No one cares about that faggot lmao
Packers are irrelevant
>>69053873
The Giants defenses were not stacked. Name one decent back 7 Giants defender in the last decade
Cruz and OBJ are Elibabbys
Gates and LT >>>>>>>>
Olines about the same
3 good pass rushers that beat a choking Aaron Rodgers and got in the Bradys head somehow (he cant beat the Dolphins either, it happens) doesnt mean theyre some best defense of all time. They fucking went 9-7
>>69053628
Your inner cuck is showing putting Prescott above Wentz, Lynch, and Cook. :^)
Solid list though. I'd knock Brees down to the top of Tier 2 as a precaution. That late-season foot injury is the same one Peyton had. Romo would go down towards the end of Tier 2 just because I want to see him take a halfway decent hit without hurting. He's got the talent, but the hits he took last year were no biggie, which was worrying.
I'd put Bradford above Tannehill at least. There were times Tannehill was downright shameful last season. Bradford showed growth throughout the season in a stupidly designed offense perfect for demonstrating ability late in the game (usually garbage time). He'd benefit from a non-meme offense that actually challenge a defense mentally.
Other than that, great list.
>>69053997
>Eagles starters go 13-1 in 2004/05.
>Trounce NFC playoffs without TO
>Lose SB by 3 because of Donovan's mental mistakes and Andy Reid meme clock management.
I had a dream TO had one more catch in that Super Bowl. 10 catches, 150 yards, 1 TD. Eagles win by 1, 4, who cares? No one cares about Donovan throwing up since they finally get the Ring. The TO vs Donovan drama doesn't happen. TO gets paid. No driveway situps, Andy loses his TO 15 TD bet and has to wear spandex in public in 2005. Able to focus on replenishing the aging defense, remain in championship contention, maybe win another one. Still draft Desean Jackson (no need for Maclin the next year since they still have Owens) in 2008 and the TO/DJax/BWest combo is the difference between Eagles vs Cardinals in the NFCCG. Go on to win against the Steelers.
We all missed out on an (at least) 2 Owl Eagles era capped off with a Battle of Pennsylvania Super Bowl XLIII. Thanks Andy.
Should I be optimistic about this year?
>>69054178
Come to think of it, I just replied to someone who unironically tried to argue that Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw and Jeremy Shockey are better than Antonio Gates and LT
Going to bed
>>69054190
Just imagine Buddy Ryan is right there with you. F.
>>69054190
Look at me in the eyes anon.... you and I both know we are going to be filled with hope then crushed with terrible disappointment.
>>69054179
I'd trust Tannehill over Bradford. Tannehill has been consistently getting better with each season - last season there was a lot of shit happening, and while I'm not absolving him of all blame, there were definitely some factors that made him look worse than I think he really is (WR drops, swiss cheese o-line, coaching change halfway through the season, defense constantly putting them in bad field position). That being said, he absolutely needs to improve on 3rd downs and in the 4th quarter. However, I'm willing to call the overall performance of last season a fluke unless he still can't do it this coming season.
Bradford is too much of an unknown at this point. His injury history and the fact that his team traded up to draft a QB speaks to their lack of confidence in him as a long-term solution.
>>69053628
>Flacco
>Eli
>Not elite
How the fuck could anyone root for the Bungles?
>>69054202
>>69054178
>OBJ
>Elibabby
1 decent back 7
Pierce, Rolle, Amukamara for a time, DRC, Webster was average/above average, Kiwanuka.
>Implying anyone could think even in jest or mistake that Shockey is elite past 2005 at anything except shit tattooes.
There's a difference between individual talent and how a team functions with a wide variety of offensive talent and how the many options create defensive mismatches. The Jacobs, Burress, Toomer offense was better at keeping defenses off balance and utilizing offensive depth than the LT and Gates Chargers offense. Giants could do more with more pieces. Chargers could do a lot with fewer pieces.
Good night.
>>69054190
7-9 to 10-6. Pederson can make Smeth a viable QB, I'd like to see his offense with Bradford. Schwartz's defense gives me a hard on.
>>69054307
Tannehill under pressure and handling the ball was what had me concerned the most. He puts it on the ground more than he should. I'm pulling for him to break through, but if it doesn't happen this year then I don't think it would. Quality coaching is the important factor.
They didn't take Wentz because they don't have confidence in Bradford. It's outside circumstances that affected their decision the most. Think about the state of the NFCE and the entire NFC in the year 2021. Who will be the top QBs?
Rodgers and Cutler will be 38
Matt Ryan will be 36
Cam will be 32 and Wilson will be 33, which is historically the beginning of the decline for franchise QBs (run heavy QBs are usually done even earlier).
There could very well be as many as 2 and as few as 0 top tier NFC QBs by the time Wentz and the Eagles are in championship contending mode. It isn't a lack in faith of Bradford's ability, it's a need for a player who will be young at that time...and cucking other NFC teams out of that QB.
Reminder: the Raiders are winning a minimum of eight games in 2016
>>69054555
>Raidniggers actually believe this
>>69054474
>Tannehill under pressure
You're right about that. There was some stat that when all of Miami's starters on o-line are playing, he has a very good record, and it's the opposite if any of them are injured. It's hard to demand that QBs should have no problem playing under pressure, but it's definitely something that needs to be worked on, especially given the history of that line.
>If it doesn't happen this year then I don't think it would
Yeah, I'm actually really interested in what happens after this season if Tannehill can't do it. I think Gase is going to get his own QB on the team if he's not happy, but on the other hand management will probably make the "it was his first year in the offense" excuse and buy him more time.
>Who will be the top QBs?
Hundley, apparently. But yeah, I get how that's important. I just can't get over the fact that Wentz and Goff were post-1st round picks at the beginning of the offseason and got hyped up so much near the end. Typical for QBs, I guess. Even then, there's no way to tell if Wentz will be a contender at that point in time, or if there will be other QBs between then and now who turn out to be better. Time to sit back and see where the wild ride takes you guys.
>>69054594
You're right about the Tannehill and Gase dynamic. I think Tannehill has 2 years to prove himself with the new regime. If there aren't enough positive signs after the first, he'll have a short leash.
I'm not too concerned about the QBs early offseason ranking compared to late. The Senior Bowl, pro days, private work outs, and extra months of analyzing the tapes do their job. There's also a history of QBs going 1st overall or 1st and 2nd overall having approximately a 75-80% success rate. If NFL scouts who are paid for years to decide if a guy is worth it determine these guys are, us armchair guys can only put our trust in that.
>its a Bengals episode
Sweet my favorite
>>69054558
I think I picked a trip name
Gone to soon.
RIP
Messi, Lionel #10
>>69054743
Literally who?
>>69054889
Turton Ziplon
>>69053628
>4. Romo
>Dak Prescott being listed at all
>>69053628
>yet another list where Taylor is 27th or worse
>captcha thinks bubble tea is a milkshake
>>69053628
Flacco is Quality tier, Winston is mid tier.
Other than that pretty accurate
>>69055049
oh wonderful another post by this trip faglord
Relevant teams
AFC
Steelers
Broncos
Pats
Bengals
NFC
Hawks
Panthers
Cardinals
Packers
Irrelevant
Literally everyone else. You're all shit.
>>69055158
all these fucktards post shit like this you'd think they would be in vegas since they can see the future
>but their shift at KFC just ended
>>69055158
>Bungles
>relevant
>>69055170
t.fan of a team not listed
>>69055183
t.fag who can't place a bet bc their KFC paycheck goes to rent
>>69055171
More relevant than the rest of the AFC
>>69055192
I'm a pats fan, but even I know jets>bungles
>>69055190
Imagine being this assblasted
>>69055158
>Panthers
>relevant
>literally 0 rings
you know, that would be one way to keep the cancer down in this thread
every autist who posts something like "seachickens win superb owl LI"
should have to post their betting confirmation
put your money where your mouth is
>there would be a 50% reduction in posts in this cancerous thread
>>69055205
Imagine not being able to back up any cancer post you make
I mean, how many of you tripfags and basement dwellers
would have had to turn to crime by now if you even bet
$100 on your team to win the superb owl last year?
Cowshits fans? Cheatriots fans? There's like 10 more
cancerous groups who would have a bunch of black kids starving.
And your sons mothers would have been like:
"I told you not to bet our baby formula money on the Seahawks again!"
You are pathetic NFL general
>>69055316
This is true. /NBA/ general > /nfl/ general
>>69054928
That is literally the most meme name ever. Not surprised the faggot shot himself.
>>69054555
Trips confirm
>>69055533
triple-dubs re-confirm
>>69055558
>off by 3
>>69055555
>>69053628
I'd switch burger with romo
Carr at 17
Switch bortles with Bradford
Cutler to 28
Marriota over Winston
>>69053275
this is true
other than having a decent game against one of the worst defenses to make the owl, ben has been the most overrated postseason QBs there are
How exposed will stafford be this year without megatron?
>>69055923
Exposed? They already lose most of their games
Why are you even asking this you meme loving stat worshipping fuck?
Just another reason why nfl general should be banned
I wouldn't be caught dead in a kitties game thread and therefore would be free of your shitposting
This fucking thread is pure cancer
>>69050369
Fastest 40 in the combine this year
This is how Bill Belitard sees the game
>>69055211
The Broncos are ahead of the Patriots
not hard to realize it isn't an all time list.
>>69054743
i am offer fittest goat to volcano in please of great Quetzalcoatl of the Zoltan's new life
Just watched Super Bowl 33 for the first time
Is this guy elite?
>>69058187
Schlereth? Nah.
>>69055349
My bad, I spelled it wrong. It's actually Zurtip Lonton
>>69058259
>Schlereth
he's an elite homer for the broncucks
>>69058187
I HATE YOU JOHN ELWAY
HORSE FACE SARAH JESSICA PARKER FAGGOT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69058187
post 36 years Elway is the true GOAT
>>69055923
As exposed as he was when Calvin Johnson got injured and Tate proceeded to put up 600 yards in 4 games.
>>69055158
>steelers
Uhhh, I'm surprised Roth didn't retire before Manning desu
>Broncos
Defense split, and they don't have Manning how're they relevant?
>Pat
obvi
>Bengals
I can see it
>Hawks
Yeah
>Panthers
Yeah
>Cardinals
Yeah
>Packers
Yeah
You gotta work on your AFC though.
who is the best mobile QB of all time?
>>69060217
Gotdamn... She looks like a prostitute
>>69060229
>>69060217
>>69060276
>>69060217
Maddie was better.
>>69060229
ron mexico
>>69060217
Pardon, but she gave me a hard on, what her name?
What are the chances Romo retires without a ring?
>>69060229
A. Smith
>>69060229
Vick dumbass
>>69060350
considering the team they have now 30%
>>69060229
Steve Young
Kenny Stabler
Bobby Douglas
Michael Vick
>Terrelle Pryor
Cunningham
Newton
And Gannon come to my mind
>>69060229
Vick without a doubt, falcons in Madden 07 are unfair.
>>69060229
Peypey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbQdVOgO6Pk
1 more day lads, then it's the stars and stripes up there, and I can go full old bay whenever i please
>>69060500
Why is the NFC east always such an entertaining division?
>former bucs great Warren Sapp arrested for battery, resisting arrest in Orlando
Updated with the likely top 20.
>>69060631
JUST
>>69060613
its like watching a car crash happen, its bad to look at but you cant look away because a body flew out the window and the kids died in the back seat
>>69060764
>this from the guy that has the bungles and browns in his division
>and went 5-11 last year
lmao i'm dying fåm
>>69060812
bungles went to the playoffs and the ravens had the second or third most starters out on injury
>this is coming from the fan of a team who has a losing record against the ravens
not suprised tbqh pham
>>69060764
>>69060812
Reminder that the NFC East was the toughest division in football consistently for nearly a decade until around 2010
Fuckers in school telling me, always in the barber shop Joe Flacco ain’t bout this, Joe Flacco ain’t bout that My boy a BD on fucking Lamron and them He, he they say that nigga don’t be putting in no work SHUT THE FUCK UP! Y'all niggas ain’t know shit All ya motherfuckers talk about Joe Flacco ain’t no QB Joe Flacco ain’t this Joe Flacco a fake SHUT THE FUCK UP Y'all don’t live with that nigga Y'all know that nigga got caught with a ratchet Throwin at the Steelers and shit Nigga been on probation since fuckin, I don’t know when! Motherfuckers stop fuckin' playin' him like that Them niggas savages out there If I catch another motherfucker talking sweet about Joe Flacco I’m fucking beating they ass! I’m not fucking playing no more You know those niggas role with Ray Lewis and them.
>>69060634
Wtf kind of shit map is this
Alex smith was born in washington and went to college in Utah
Jamie Collins didn't make the top 100 players?
I don't get how that could have happened
>>69060904
Still would consider it toughest division as all the games are hard fought and every season any team can come up on top based on what they did on the offseason
>>69060812
>Bungles
>still shit
You been asleep for the past 4 years or something?
Then again
>iggles
>>69060869
It's been 3 years since the Ravens have beat the Bengals.
>3 years
You can't shit talk the Bengals until further notice.
>>69061180
Post your top 5 favorite defensive players on your team, I'll start
1. Ninkovich
2. Jamie Collins
3. Malcolm Butler
4. Devin Mcourty
5. Dont'a Hightower
>>69055158
>Steelers
That defense though......but yes.
>Broncos
If Von Miller stays yes. If not, no.
>Pats
Yes
>Bengals
Yes
>Hawks
Yes
>Panthers
Yes
>Cardinals
Yes
>Packers
Nigger sucked dick last year, maybe.
>>69055066
>Implying I don't know Dynasty shit posts the Cowboys 24/7 and thinks ever player ever on that team is a 1st ballot hall of famer.
>>69061430
1) Aaron Donald.
2) Aaron Donald.
3) Aaron Donald.
4) Aaron Donald.
5) Aaron Donald.
>>69061430
Wolfe
Wolfe
Wolfe
Wolfe
Ward
>>69061430
1. Jason Verrett
2. Denzel Perryman
3. Kyle Emmanuel
4. Brandon Mebane
5. Joey Bosa (pls do well)
Although Casey Heyward could break into the top 5 if he plays well.
Really interested to see how Joshua Perry and Jatavius Brown work into the Defense this year.
;_; RIP in peace Weddle
>>69061660
I really hope Jatavis gets playing time. I wanted him in the draft.
>>69061114
It's based on where they were raised. Why would arbitrary shit like where they were born or where they went to college take precedent over that? Dumbass coon.
>>69061277
depends on the meaning of the word tough in context, it gets used different ways. it consistently has great parity but hasn't been full of behemoths for a while now.
>>69061729
Because those are the 2 things people ask nfl players when they ask where they came from
Not "where they went to high school"
>>69061430
Carr
Mack
Cooper
Crabtree
Amerson
>>69061854
>defensive players
>>69061808
When someone asks where you are from, what do you tell them?
You tell them where you spent most of your young life. I was born in a city that I've never been to since, a long way from where I was raised. The fuck connection do I have to that place? Niggers man, I swear.
>>69061872
Shut up
>>69061891
this is correct, but it doesn't necessarily have to be only niggers that wouldn't get it. some people I've met have only ever lived in one area their whole life and it wouldn't occur to them. maybe that guy didn't actually know where smith was from, just a couple factoids about his history.
>>69060229
Russell desu
>>69061430
1. Cam Wake
2. Reshad Jones
3. Suh
no one else is that good
>>69048398
Teddy Bridgewater has ice water in his veins. Completely unshakeable during the 2nd half of a game.
>because he totally freezes and the coaches take the game completely out of his hands when it matters instead of letting that dumb nigger absorb coverage sacks.
Cory redding retired
>>69062172
greenfrogshootinghimselfinthehead.jpg
>>69062172
>>69062172
Y'all have mario Williams and Jarvis Landry
They're breddy gud
>>69062505
>Jarvis Landry
>defense
>>69062571
didnt read
I just assumed it was the whole team
Your list looks better than the packers though
1. Matthews
2. Miken daniels
3. Julius peppers
4. ???
5. Failure
>there are still bengals fans that have faith
How do you fuckers do it? I'll always room for them but I'm done every having any positive expectations after that fuckfest of a playoff game
>>69062276
>>69062172
"But dont you worry we are going to be totally different this year. we are going to be winning the next 5 super bowls and will be a dynasty."
-stephen ross
>>69062610
micah hyde and haha are both good
>>69062613
probably because they realize that Marvin Lewis and Andy Dalton have to die or get fired eventually.
>>69062613
>there are Peyton fans that had faith
Wow what morons
>Manziel will be sober by July 1st
IS THIS NIGGA SERIOUS, HE'S DONE MORE COKE LT, EMMITT SMITH, AND JOE GREENE
>>69062642
FACT: The 06 colts only won the owl because they played the 06 bears
>>69062648
>sober equals clean
How's middle school treating you?
>>69062667
FACT: Dalton has made the playoffs every single year despite starting as a rookie.
>>69062648
What do you mean by this statement?
>>69062682
What, I seriously doubt Manziel could go cold turkey like that, he's ALWAYS high or doing stupid shit
>Sober = Clean
Lolno
If Peyton hadn't been elite, would he be elite?
>>69062700
And all of those teams would have been more likely to win those playoff games if they had a real QB instead. They've gotten there despite him, not because of him.
>>Sober = Clean
>Lolno
So you don't understand how greentexting works either? You aren't making a very good case for not being underage.
>>69061430
1. Mack
2. Amerson
3. Edwards Jr.
4. Williams
5. Heeney
>>69062720
>Peyton
>Elite
>>69062700
Fact:Andy Dalton will always fuck up on The big stage and there is nothing you can do about it.
@69062748
says the retard who can't @ correctly
>>69062761
Fact : Jews can alter the past present and future
>>69062760
Prime Manning is the best passer I have ever seen
>>69062748
Who are you quoting newfag
>>69061430
1. Slay
2. Ziggy
3. Levy
4. Quin
5. Whitehead
>>69062779
That may be true, but can they see why Kids love cinnatoast crunch?
>>69062761
FACT: You are being tricked by ESPN memes.
FACT#2: You will post with a different trip within 2 years.
>>69062836
He literally got outplayed by AJ McCarron.
>>69062779
B-but hes a chokester too!
Compare Peypeys first 4 to Daltons first 4 years are and realise why people say you dont know shit about dick and disregard your opinions.
>>69062831
https://youtu.be/datRs9_LcUk
No, but I'll have me some corn grain crunch, its the cereal you can eat for lunch
Will Dalton surpass Peyton in one-and-dones?
Which QB does this image remind you of
>>69062882
Says the man with a lot of shit on his dick.
>>69062893
>Jewish Rapper
Sup Drake
>>69062929
>im not actually going to look shit up i just want to shitpost
Cant wait for Brady's regression
>>69062923
Joe Theismann, it's the wrong limb but otherwise fits perfectly.
>>69061854
You're retarted
>>69062610
>Matthews
>good
are you stupid or is the packers defense really that bad?
>>69063080
you're just tart
>>69063143
I'm the only tard here.
Four More Years.
>>69063080
Oh look an opinion no one asked for
>>69063304
Oh no you don't
>>69063500
I'm more retarded than you.
>>69063500
>>69063531
pls get on my level.
©69063531
Nope I vowt reepuhbliken
>>69063409
>thinks Carr is best player on team
>thinks Carr, Cooper and Crabtree play defense
It's not an opinion, it's a fact that you're retarded
>>69063593
Old Bay you have such a hateboner for the Raiders. You need to calm down and relax. Unclench that asshole and realize we aren't going to bother you lol.
This is literally the last thread on /sp/ with American posters, and soon it will not be allowed either. Sad and ironic.
>>69063593
At least >my team beat yours
>>69063626
>it will not be allowed either
explain
>>69063675
He's one of those eurocucks who think /sp/ should be entirely based in soccer.
>>69061430
1. Mack
2. Amerson
3. Edwards Jr.
4. Aldon Smith
5. Dan Williams
>>69063719
Aldon Smith shouldn't count since he's about to go to jail
>>69063765
Don't care, I liked him in SF and was stoked when he signed with Oakland, charges and all, I believe he'll rebound and be very productive
Luck signed an extension through 2021
Guesses on the yearly average?
I'm guessing $22 million
#Colts owner Jim Irsay announces QB Andrew Luck has signed a contract extension through 2021.
>>69061430
Davis, Kuechly, Coleman, Short, Ealy
I think we should bring back the bounty system and make the league more dangerous.
>>69063875
>>69063892
Has it been 4 years already? Wow
>>69061430
Cox, Jenkins, Mcleod, Barwin, Logan
Anyone got the details on the Luck extension?
>On his 5-year extension, #Colts QB Andrew Luck is now the highest paid player in the NFL, source said. Puts him over Joe Flacco's $22.1M.
>>69064016
LOHL.
inb4 the luck is a bad QB meme resurfaces
>>69064016
Damn.
>>69064016
>>69064016
Lol how retarded are the clots?
>>69064016
Damn son
It's official. We can no longer make fun of >120 million. We now have to laugh at the Colts.
>>69064016
>clots
>>69064129
But the Colts are actually investing it in a legitimately worthwhile QB.
>getting upset because a QB that has dragged his shitty team for years is paid accordingly
Safe to assume his shoulder recovered?
I just came nearly a gallon, what have you guys done?
>>69064154
They should invest in a worthwhile team as well
>>69064203
The Dolphins should do the same, but they didn't. Jarvis Landry will go to the Giants to be reunited with Beckham.
did Luck finally get rid of the neckbeard?
>>69064203
Not Luck's fault the owner, GM, and HC are all idiots.
Who gives a fuck about Andrew Luck? My main nigga Stannis Baratheon is coming back to be named king of Westeros
>>69064235
Dolphins haven't been doing diddly dick for the past decade. And just because Landry will end up leaving doesn't mean you have to rub it in my face...
>>69064198
I've been harassing Oilers fans on Facebook.
>>69064244
Yes, he glued it to his thinning hair.
>>69064016
inb4 yet another dumb Draw Play shtick about fort moneys
>>69064244
he's part caveman the more he shaves it the worse it gets.
>over 120 million
>>69064253
Pagano isn't an idiot. Irsay and Grigson are literally raiders tier retarded
>>69064298
Actually I think even the Raiders wouldn't make such a stupid decision.
>>69064182
Dragged his shitty team where?
>>69064343
The Raiders have made plenty of stupid decisions the past 15 years. No other team is that incompetent as they have been
>>69064370
To Gillette Stadium, where it keeps getting killed.
>>69064370
a couple of AFC champ games so far.
Manning is retired and once Brady is gone no one in the AFC will be able to stop him.
>>69064154
>legitimately worthwhile QB.
>Manning is retired and once Brady is gone no one in the AFC will be able to stop him.
>>69064439
Why doesn't your dumbass know how to quote someone properly?
>>69064409
He went to one.
>>69064506
Wow, Luck is shit in the playoffs
>lucky ducky nowhere to be seen
>>69064437
tsuyu > uraraka
>>69064673
Their running back became an hero and now Irsay threw a blank check at Luck's agent in a drunken fit. It's a rough week for Clots fans
Let's do some acronyms
P - Perfection
A - Amazing
C - Championships
K - Knowledgeable fans first choice
E - Elite
R - Rodgers confirmed GOAT
S - Superbowl win incoming
B - Bullshit
E - Every year a disappointment
A - About to be relocated to Las Vegas
R - Retarded fans first choice
S - Sucks dick
Did you guys know that Chef Boyardee makes a Mac n cheese in a can? Shit is GOOD
>87 million guaranteed
>>69064890
Still not as bad as what Cox got guaranteed
>>69064850
Resurgence
Awesome
Illustrious history
Defense is great
Enormous fan base
Resilients
Substantially improved offense
>140m
well it was inevitable
kinda disappointing, I guess even Irsay isn't coked up enough to give someone 200m
>>69064991
Resilient*
>>69064992
>>69064992
This
I was really hoping for an absurd 8 year $200 million deal because irsay is just insane
Just kind of disappointing
>>69062779
No fucking shit
Prime E.D is the best rushing performance ever as well
>>69064889
>Chef Boyardee
I don't give a shit what anyone else says, beefaroni is good. the spaghetti and meatball one is ruined by the nasty sauce though.
>>69065049
Brugh
I ate beefaroni a few years ago thinking it was good like in my childhood
It tastes like dirt
Or what I expect dog food to taste like
But some tobacco, cayenne pepper, a little ketchup, mustard and BBQ sauce and it was edible
>>69064653
It's his team's fault he underperforms.
>best mobile QB getting completely devastated by the safety ever
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7s1cRTMgA
Packers: 11-5 3rd place in NFC
Vikings: 8-8
Bears: 7-9
Lions: 6-10
>>69065090
>all those extra condiments
Maybe you'd be better off making your own lol
Kraft Mac N Cheese > Chef Boyardee
>>69061430
Thomas, Bennett, Sherman, Wagner, Chancellor
>>69065189
I had already opened the can and heated it and started to eat it
So I had to find a way to make it edible
It ended up being decent after all the additions
But I haven't bought it since
And yes Kraft > chef B
I like to add a little extra real cheese that I have laying around my fridge too
Sometimes I'll add Velveeta too if I don't have real cheese
>tfw you dont give a fuck about anything
>>69065090
>obacco, cayenne pepper, a little ketchup, mustard and BBQ sauce
so basically you were just adding chef boyardee to your condiment soup instead of the other way around.
>>69064850
most of those are more appropriate for Patriots fans too bee honest
Patriotism = infinite
Accidentally caused the genesis of spee
Tom Brady is the GOAT QB
Rob Gronkowski is the GOAT TE
Inevitably will win SB51
Other teams' asshurt caused = infinite
Two decades until Benjamin Brady dominates the NFL just like, and maybe more than, his dad
Super Bowls won: probably more than your team
>>69065091
I suppose, despite /nfl/'s conflicting logic, that blame for poor QB performance has to be on other parts/the rest of the team or the FO at some point
he is still the Patriots' bitch until further notice though
>>69060229
iggles need to bring those jerseys back
>>69065267
if that's his house, he gonna need to do more than smoke weed errday to keep it
>>69065264
>Velveeta
I hate Velveeta so much, it doesn't even taste like cheese to me
>>69065294
>Benjamin Brady dominates the NFL
I give him 12 years until he offs himself when he find his momma's cuck pics
>>69065327
that's because it's not cheese
doesn't mean it can't still be good if used right
>>69065327
nothing made by Kraft Foods ever tstes like wht's supposed to be, it's disgusting
>>69065327
This >>69065356
It's "cheese product" and yea it looks gross
But a pound of ground beef with taco seasoning plus a can of rotel tomatoes = delicious Queso dip
>ONE (1) HUNDRED AND FORTY (40) MILLION UNITED STATES FEDERAL RESERVE BANK NOTES
>>69065352
>12 years
nigga he's probably seen them already, he's 4 years old and has access to internet
>>69065415
>one hundred twenty MEELION DOLLERS
>>69064991
Rapists
Arsonists
Illegal Immigrant Fans
Domestic Violence
Enormous Lack of Class or Money
Rapists Again (They like Rape)
Sodomize Each Other
>>69065395
I have done this before
>>69065356
Up to a point
>>69065361
Its better than most others imo
>>69065415
is that Cutler or some other inevitable disappointment of a quarterback?
>>69065395
for the super bowl I experimented and made a quick and dirty dish, just heated up some of those frozen pre-cooked buffalo chicken strips, chopped that up and added it to some boiled rotini pasta, "nacho cheese", frank's red hot, and a bit of canned diced green chili to taste. so it was basically Buffalo Nacho Casserole. never made it before but it came out good, was pretty cheap and fast to make too.
>>69065505
Rape murder arson and Rape
>>69065395
looks like cheese to me
>>69065352
>>69065505
>Rapists Again
kek
>>69065548
you said rape twice
I like rape
>>69065267
>father publically shames you
>go to cabo smoke weed and fuck bitches
Sure beats shitposting on /sp/
>>69065267
he looks skinny as fuck
too much booger sugar
>>69065562
>not wanting to be a trophy husband, as the GOAT at your own profession, of the world's richest supermodel
hell, I'd take that in a heartbeat
>>69065622
When you're fucking 10's who cares
>>69060229
Steve Young
my offseason project this summer was creating an algorithm to rank qb's.
The career score is the final stat for that, ranked on three things, regular season, postseason, and longevity(how long the qb has played as a starter.)
for the regular season I've made a W.A.R. stat per 16 games which is basically saying how effective that qb is in their average season vs. an average nfl starting qb.
Added in are the postseason modifier and longevity modifiers.
the only requirement to be on the list is a minimum of 80 starts and the qb must have been drafted 2000 or later.
I will eventually add qb's from previous generations but this is just the list so far.
any questions feel free to ask, this isn't perfect by any means but I just made this for fun.
>>69061430
1. Matthews
2. Haha
3. Peppers
4. Randall
5. Elliot
I just saw Irrelevant posting in /hoc/ I hope he doesn't come here.
>>69065664
he could be in the NFL, fucking 10s, not be a cokewhore and earning money. I hope his parents cut him off, he only made like 5-6 mill if that. he might blow through that in a few years
You know at least Flacco's contract was somewhat justified. The year he won Super Bowl MVP he threw 11 TDs and 0 ints in the postseason.
>>69065709
post spreadsheet download link so I can ogle your formulas
if you could also save it in an older format that'd be great since I'm only running office XP and newer versions won't open in it
>>69065742
And considering the position they were in they either had to sign Flacco or draft/sign another QB. Still a shitty decision but you have to give props to Flacco's agent for cashing out on a good situation.
>>69065733
>going on /hoc/
You should go back there and keep him busy. It's a win/win for /nfl/ because neither of you will be posting here
>>69065742
you don't pay players based on what they did, you pay them based on what you think they'll do. flacco's run was good, but not standard flacco. we saw standard flacco last year and the year before
>>69065780
>says the guy who literally contributes nothing.
>>69065803
He contributes
He gets us to 500 replies
>>69065803
who you quoting?
>>69065796
Quarterbacks reach their prime when they hit 30. Baltimore saw fool's gold with Flacco in 2012.
>>69065838
I've been slacking lately. Today is the first day in forever I've posted extensively
>>69060229
1. Vick
2. Tarkenton
3. Young
4. Cunningham
5. Wilson
>>69060229
qb with the best mobility or best qb with mobility?
because vick is definitely one but nowhere close to the other
>>69055158
>bengals
>relevent since 1991
>>69064390
The Raiders FO is incompetent meme died when Reggie got hired.
The last 10 years of Al Davis will always be the single worst general manager in the history of the NFL
>>69053275
Nah
Rivers is a jackass. There's a reason his teammates say fuck this guy in crunch time, same reason they have problems getting free agents
Rivers is a flaming jackass. Great arm, really smart but a shitty leader
SEVEN DEADLY SINS OF /NFL/
Old Bay
Tiki
p12
BB
Sneak
Scarletism
Carrmageddon
>>69048398
I hope if we don't keep Keith Marshall on the roster, we at least can retain him on practice squad.
Dude is crazy quick, and just getting back from injury
>>69066173
this is literally retarded.
his teammates vote him as the most valuable player every year. not one of his teammates has ever said "fuck this guy in crunchtime." nor does he provide any reason they can't get free agents. all WR receiver free agents say that rivers is a reason they come to the chargers. stay mad rapelisberger fan, rivers is and has always been a better qb
>>69066173
at least he isn't a rapist
>>69064268
>BTFO by the worst Lannister
>killed his daughter
>BTFO by the worst Bolton
>killed by a woman
>off screen
>>69064850
Cursed
Hatred
Allen da MVP
Rivers
Gatesy
Ever heard that Gates played basketball?
Reaching for mediocrity
Sigh
>>69064268
>beat by a woman in battle
your "man" is pathetic as fuck and is the Chris Benoit of Game of Thrones
>>69066169
Reggie has had one good draft and has like a 13-40 record as GM. Reggie is great at not fucking up can't miss top 5 picks like Mack and Cooper but that's about it
>>69066184
What is this meme?
>>69066240
Fuck off showfag
>>69064390
>No other team is that incompetent as they have been
The Browns exist
>>69066304
>Fuck off showfag
At least the show will be finished faggot. GRRM is gonna choke to death on some german porn actresses strap on, and the last two books will be novelizations of the show.
>pic. bookfags
>>69066261
my sides, this is the best so far
>>69065902
>I've posted extensively
I advise that you halt this practice and hang yourself on the nearest tree so your fellow Baltipooreans can attempt to break their city again
>>69066240
>>69066300
>MFW a showfag samefagged and talked shit about Stannis near me
>>69066261
Canton Bound Rivers
Hall of Fame QB Rivers
A HoF bust of Rivers
Rivers to the Hall of Fame
Gates will be there too...with Rivers
Eli jealous of Rivers in HoF and Eli misses it
Rivers deserves a HoF jacket for the # of kids too
Super Chargers Rivers is HoF bound
>>69066225
>>69066226
Yeah... Except it's well documented rivers is an asshole. Story after story about him being a d bag and getting crushed by the other team. Dude talks so much shit.
... I mean shit.. This is really old news. You guys are saying something akin to Tom Brady isn't insanely driven, or cam newton isn't a athletic freak. Seriously google it.
Phillip rivers is a huge HUGE asshole.
>>69066363
I like your style.
>>69066363
lel
>Archie not paying off the HOF voters to get both of his sons into Canton
unlikely
>>69066365
>an asshole
he doesn't talk shit because he never curses. its called "trash talk"
he really sounds so mean...
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/0ap3000000608303/Sound-FX-Philip-Rivers
do your research. rivers does some of the most charity work in all of the NFL. on away games he visits kids in hospitals.
show me the "well documented rivers being an asshole" and separate out strict competitive trash talk and what do you have? nothing, you fucking crybaby
>>69066363
Nice. Epic. I like it.
>>69066429
>both
or should I say, the ones that are important
#ElivesMatter
>QB has fun on the field talking trash and enjoying the game
>this makes him an asshole
>>69066361
I only know one king who's name is Mace "the Ace" Tyrell, based is his name, high is his garden. Kisser of the long canal, double kisser in Salty Town. Immune to Wildfire and delusional stannis fags. He will rise from the ashes of the Sept of Baylor and pull Brightflame from Margery's burnt body.
>>69066483
Is this not the same reason no one likes Richard Sherman?
>>69066365
There couldn't be a nicer player in the NFL (unless Tebow was still in it). I dont know where you got your news from, but its definitely not well researched.
>>69066496
I think people didn't like Sherman calling a certain player out.
>>69066487
>Implying it won't be Gerald Dayne who saves her
Why do I love Darkstar so much? It's pretty simple when I think about it. Darkstar isn't just the best character in the series, he might just be the greatest character of all time. Just imaging him riding through the sands of Dorne, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him. As he rides through the red mountains, the ladies swoon at his very scent. They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Planky Town under the the name of "Greenblood Orgasm." The very nature of Darkstar is mystery. could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes? The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit. However, Darkstar is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers. Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Darkstar is not one that is easily penetrated. Darkstar is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world. Darkstar is not only beyond thecomprehension of us he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes. His eyes like pools of saffron provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Darkstar. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt. Darkstar is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the saga together. Without Darkstar, the entire series, the entire world of Westeros as we know it crumbles. The Trident would stop flowing without Darkstar, the Reach would become a desolate crater, and the Wall would melt without his frosty gaze. These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Darkstar so much.
>>69066496
Sherman is black so it's wrong for him to talk trash.
>>69066512
Do you not remember Rivers chimping out in every single game when Cutler played in Denver?
>>69066512
>>69066439
I'm sure he's nice off the field away from
Football. But on its and around football he's an asshole
Prove me wrong
Go to
Type in
"Philip rivers is an asshole" or Philip rivers is a douche bag" or Philip rivers is an ass" jackass, faggot, etc all
Work
You'll see player after player talk about how he's a loud mouth asshat
There's a reason the team always just says fuck this guy then tanks
>>69066615
you mean playing better than cutler every single time? I do remember that
>>69066594
HISSSSSSS BAD POOSY
>>69066632
>butthurt fans making shit up about a QB they don't like
listen to him mic'd up, whatever date he's mic'd up. you will not hear one asshole thing come out of his mouth.
He'll tell DBs he's going to throw it at them and does.
>getting injured is the same thing as tanking
delusions upon delusions
>>69066634
Yeah but rivers would chimp out. That's the point. His intangibles are shit in that way. He's like a petulant child throwing his turds at his pre school teacher.
Tell me a team of millionaires half whom from the ghetto and black are going to
Back a loud mouthed jackass white boy
>140 million dollarydoos
>>69066697
the entire team
every year
>>69066665
>listen to him when he knows he's being recorded
>he's really nice then
Don't go full retard
Anyways you have some of his own former teammates talk about him and his over the top shit talk and how they'd have to tell opposing lineman "hey I'm just doing my job, your fight is with him"
Ever notice how the game is on the line he gets nailed left and right? Or how his teammates get "injured"?
Most players get injured during the season. Guys on good teams even if injured keep playing because their team is doing well. If their team is doing shitty or they hate the leaders on the team they don't play
>Los Angeles County approved a referendum to raise the minimum wage from $10/hr to $15/hr
>and raised up from $8/hr to $9/hr statewide on july 1st 2014 and again to $10/hr just at the start of this year
>already a mass exodus as homeowners are starting to sell their houses in order to escape the imminent cost of living spike
>meanwhile beaners are celebrating the "great" news
I wonder if being retarded is contagious, I live 2 counties over.
TOP 10 QB SEASONS OF THE 21st CENTURY
1. 2011 Aaron Rodgers
2. 2007 Tom Brady
3. 2004 Peyton Manning
4. 2010 Tom Brady
5. 2001 Kurt Warner
6. 2013 Peyton Manning
7. 2011 Drew Brees
8. 2005 Peyton Manning
9. 2009 Brett Favre
10. 2004 Daunte Culpepper
>>69066801
yeah, concussions and broken legs are done on purpose because "fuck rivers" amirite? you're a fucking imbicile
>>69066848
Beaners are literally retarded. So is the average person in Socal. Not you though.
>>69066853
5000
0
0
0
>>69066879
You won't even google it will you.
Here
Tom Brady is incredibly driven
Cam newton is incredibly athletic
Philip rivers while productive and insanely well paid, and the offenses leader is a well documented Jackass
>>69066853
What about 2002 Rich Gannon?
>>69066888
I'll bet many of the loudest supporters for this either didn't vote or don't work, they just unironically think this is a great thing. on the plus side, it's only LA county and not statewide, on the downside we're going to be flooded by former LA residents.
>>69066958
You better get ready to blow away some fucking losers from LA.
>>69066931
its been googled
http://www.si.com/more-sports/2012/10/10/philip-rivers
>>69066942
four (4) INTs in one (1) game
>>69066853
>1. 2011 Aaron Rodgers
You mean the faggot who only scored 20 points in a home playoff game after getting carried to a 15-1 regular season?
>$140 million dollars
>>69066942
>Tim Brown and Jerry Rice
>Rod Woodson and Charles Woodson
Fuck you, Bill Callahan
>>69067016
Other than the Owl, he was great that season.
>Luck signed a new contract with the highest guaranteed total in the history of the NBA
And it's still less than Jeff Samardzjia got this past offseason.
>>69066853
FIVE THOUSAND
I
V
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H
O
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S
A
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D
>>69067077
>NBA
>>69066980
don't worry, I prepared myself for shit like this. with just a single command line, these spreadsheets become WEAPONIZED. I'd like to see them try to jump my garden wall when they'd get a pivot table up their ass. home depot invasion? I've got a recursive array for that. selling stolen fruit at the freeway offramp? they'll taste my nested if statements instead. coming at me with numbers won't work either, I can spam macros faster than they can breed anchor babies. just gotta hold down shift+ctrl+Z and watch em fly.
>highest paid player is Andrew Bust
LMAO
>>69066304
He spent the first two years cleaning up the worst ten years of NFL management ever and the next two rebuilding basically from scratch. Judging him on his lack of immediate succeeds is literally senile Al Davis-tier. His three drafts where all of his draft picks weren't already traded away for him have had basically one underperformer (DJ Hayden) and a number of starting quality players (Latavius Murray, Mychal Rivera, Derek Carr, Gabe Jackson, Justin Ellis, TJ Carrie, Mario Edwards Jr., Clive Walford, Ben Heeney, Neiron Ball) and a few pieces of tradebait (Sio Moore, Brice Butler, probably Connor Cook in the future) drafted in rounds 2-7. He's done a hell of a job turning around the Raiders given his circumstances.
>>69067273
What the fuck man
>yfw da Falcons win da superb owl
>tfw 4 more years
>>69067273
I was just saying to get a gun to protect yourself.
>>69067386
Impossible. Jeff Driskel will be leading the 49ers to a Super Bowl victory this season, sorry.
>>69067386
I want to
>>69067335
dont test me bro
>>69067435
>get a gun
>in california
are you a madman?
>>69053628
Dak Prescott got rocked by the University of Kentucky defense. They run a pro style 4-3, and they had a losing record. What's he gonna do when he faces the same type of coverage but with people who are good at it?
Is Andrew Luck a bust?
>>69067273
Kek
>>69067450
Jeff Driskel couldn't lead the Gators to sing "Come to Jesus." What makes you think he'll earn a ring?
>140 million buckaroos
>>69067504
He's been working with Joe Montana since he got there dummy
>>69067474
I brought guns in from Georgia and concealed carry while I was there.
>>69067504
He is elite.
>>69067273
Holy shit dude
>>69067487
No, he will just never live up to the massive hype he received coming out of college.
>>69067627
this
without those expectations he'd be doing pretty good in his career so far for a young franchise QB
>>69067487
Yes, he will never win a Super Bowl.
>>69065709
>this summer
>past tense
were you vacationing in South America or something? we're only a month into it right now
also
>Pennington
>Bulger
kek
>>69065738
anyone could blow $5-6 million in one night in the right casino or on the right hookers
>>69067273
This may be better than any spreadsheet you've ever created
>>69067320
>>69067462
>the leaf always has to chime in with his asinine opinion
comparing "greatest passing seasons" from the past 10 years is a joke, except for Marino's all of those occurred in the past 10 years under Madden/Nerf passing rules
>>69067273
BAN ASSAULT SPREADSHEETS
>>69068055
there's no way to regulate that, not when it's so easy to apply conditional formatting. I'm a goddamn column ninja. just watch me transpose this range like I'm slipping into fucking subspace.
>>69064972
Are you retarded? 10m a year is the going rate for an elite position player.
>>69066697
wouldn't you get sick of being henpecked for "not winning a trophy" or getting swarmed by 8(?) kids every night, just once in a while? he needs some place to vent that anger
>>69068127
>he needs some place to vent that anger
he does that by fucking his wife
unfortunately that only seems to be contributing to the problem
>>69067984
All those QBs except Marino would be below average QBs in the 80s.
>>69068215
Only Brady.. too soft to play
>>69067273
Is it weird that I got an erection over this?
>>69068164
>when
>>69068215
that's kinda my point. everyone on that list except Dan ">62-7" Marino was basically playing on Madden difficulty
interestingly, only 3 of those highest-yardage seasons led to SB appearances (>43-8, >18-1 redux, and >Lelphins), and they were all losses, while the TD leaders went 1 for 4 (Warner and GSOT being the only winners). It seems to be a curse, like having the #1-ranked/GOAT-tier overall offense, or winning regular-season MVP.
>>69067273
what
>>69068215
>>69067984
>its an "Marino was playan in da 80s" thread
reminder between 82-88 all quarterbacks stats spiked.
>there are people that think Luck is a bust
>these same people lick the taint of Derek Carr, who while also good, is even more unproven
?????
I'M NOT GAY, DAMNIT!
QUIT FUCKING ASKING!
>>69068271
yes, but not nearly as weird as sharing that with us. did we REALLY need to know that?
>>69068334
>muh stickum
>>69068341
I don't really have a choice in liking Carr. So I have to. Fuck Luck though I lost money in fantasy because of him.
>>69068341
except /nfl/ shat on Carr in favor of memewater
that turned out well :^)
>>69068419
There is nothing wrong with using stickum and that gloves used today are basically legal stickum.
Matt Ryan was the best QB of the 2008 NFL Draft.
>>69068427
i think that was just vikings fans
Would you let Ronnie Lott in his prime hit you for $1 million?
>>69068485
They were trained for helmet to helmet hits back then, fuck no.
>>69068485
Do I get to wear padding/helmet?
>>69068341
luck is still a lot better than carr but people didn't just automatically assume carr was going to be a hall of famer like luck
>>69068485
thats well above my going rate so yes
>>69068460
no everybody hated him
>>69068427
>selective hearing: the post
>>69068528
"no"
>>69068612
>>69068533
>selective memory: the Psyops
>>69068419
are you mocking people that use stickum as an argument to why 80s players were good or...
I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
what are some significant single games for your team where if the outcome had been different, either better or worse, then history would have been drastically changed?
Hardmode: regular season only
Godmode: has nothing to do with playoff implications or injuries, some other reason instead
>>69053628
>19. Derek Carr
He is literally elite though.
>>69068691
The Texans game that happened after Al died. That was probably the most significant regular season game that technically meant absolutely nothing.
>>69067450
>>69067529
>>69067550
>Driskel
>Couldn't even start for a 6 win Florida team
>>69068719
stop using the word literally when you don't know what it means...
>>69068691
Eventually beat Packers x2, make the Wild Card and have the greatest Super Bowl run in NFL History
>>69068691
The Vikings game with Safety Dan where >we lost by 2
No one remembers 2-14 or 1-15
>>69068526
Good thing the intellectuals at 4chan are around to keep people in check
>>69068777
I literally cannot stop using it.
>>69068526
I'm on mobile right now so I can't check, but isn't Luck entering his 5th year? Typically quarterbacks should be entering their prime in their 4th or 5th year, so if Luck really is better than Carr someone better tell him he needs to actually play like it.
>>69068905
He did in 2013 and 2014
One injury-riddled season does not negate this. /sp/ has the memory of a goldfish
>>69068905
>has had one of the worst rosters in the League his entire career
>still been to playoffs 3/4 years
This would be the equivalent of Mariota taking the Titans to the playoffs. Carr not being able to get it done with all of the good young players the Raiders have is disgraceful by comparison.
>>69068905
are you implying that luck hasn't had a much better career than carr up until this point? because that's wrong
>>69068950
>He did in 2013 and 2014
He did what, choke?
>>69068979
What did Carr do?
>>69068905
You are a delusional faggot and you make the other raidniggers look bad. Get lost.
>>69068979
>omg he didn't win a super bowl in his first five seasons so he's terrible >:-(
>>69068969
Carr is entering his 3rd year, Luck is entering his 5th. 50% of Carr's career so far has been playing with a dumpster fire of a team, and he was a rookie. It isn't a fair comparison to make. Also, the Colt's division has been complete shit for years.
>>69068979
are you implying that making it to the playoffs most seasons and actually winning playoff games is bad or below acceptable standards for a young franchise QB somehow? because that's wrong. russell wilson's runs are above the norm, not the standard.
>>69068996
How am I delusional? I'm just saying that saying Luck has gone to the playoffs 3/4 times in a complete garbage division is bullshit. Carr will be better than Luck, I'm tired of people dickriding the Colts.
>>69068979
Carried a worse team that the Raiders to the playoffs.
>>69069054
>Carr will be better than Luck
maybe yeah, but you absolutely can't deny that Luck has been more successful so far, which is fine since both QBs still have plenty of time left on their careers.
>>69069015
>Carr's career so far has been playing with a dumpster fire of a team, and he was a rookie
The best roster Luck has had to work with is at least as bad as the worst roster Carr has had, if not worse.
>>69069033
For the last time
>Plays in garbage division
>Gets cakewalk schedules
Remind me what happened the second the Clops faced an actual team? Oh right, they got BTFO and were so salty they started a cheating conspiracy.
>>69068691
If playoffs and owls don't count, either week 3 or week 13 of the 1992 season.
The Seahawks just needed to lose one of those games, and they would have had Drew Bledsoe. Even though Bledsoe wasn't a HoF tier QB, the team would have avoided all of those seasons of terrible QB play with a franchise starter.
>>69069093
>at least as bad as the worst roster Carr has had
>worse than the 2014 raiders
>>69069085
Ok, I can level with you. That is a perfectly reasonable thing to say, I don't know why I am catching flak for saying what should very damn well be common knowledge.
>>69069093
Yeah, and remind me what relevancy the AFC South has had you mouthbreather. What about the Clops schedule thus far? Stop giving Luck credit for the NFL literally handing the shit team games with cake schedules. Pretty much every time they play a real team they either have the fight of their lives or get completely pulverized. Is that necessarily all of Luck's fault? Of course not, but stop dickriding the guy and acting like he should be wearing a gold jacket already.
>this dumb fuck making me look bad
If you honestly believe in the Raiders you are a dumb schmuck.
>>69069095
are you seriously unable to separate the concepts of success and talent? Eli Manning is now a more successful QB than Dan Marino, that doesn't automatically make him better.
point is, Luck's level of success so far is nothing to scoff at, but whether he or Carr will be BETTER than the other remains to be seen and is not based on how much Luck has lived up to expectations or not.
>>69068680
the former
>>69068526
I don't see much of Carr but Luck just looks like another >muh numbers guy along the lines of Peyton, Favre, etc.
>>69069202
Carr will be better than Luck, you can cap this post.
>>69068905
Carr's Career Yard per attempt is 6.2
which is lower than teddy bridgewater, geno smith, and Tim Tebow
>>69069252
You are a complete fucking retard and you make me ashamed to even associate with the Raiders. You have no room to even talk about how good a player on the team can be until the team proves itself as being good. GTFO.
>>69069312
Both very good stat lines tbqh
>>69069312
the later half of the 2015 season was fucking insane for the seahawks
>>69068691
EZmode: >18-1
Hardmode: 2013 Week 10 vs. the Pants (the game-ending Kuechly DPI non-call)
assuming the rest of the regular season went as it did:
>we'd be the #1 seed over the highest-scoring offense of all time by head-to-head record
>would have taken revenge in the divisional against the Pants
>would eke out another win and kill the GOAT scoring offense with half our starters kill
>would get destroyed in SB49
>>69069209
>Luck just looks like another >muh numbers guy along the lines of Peyton, Favre, etc.
You mean he looks like a top 10-15 all time QB?
How the fuck is that a bad thing?
>>69068691
>Raiders
>2011 week 6 vs. Cleveland
If Campbell didn't break his collarbone, the Palmer trade never happens, the Raiders make the playoffs, Tebowmania would just be a footnote in Broncos history, Manning probably goes somewhere else, and maybe Reggie McKenzie is more willing to work with Hue Jackson.
>>69069253
just for reference
>>69048410
>losing Calvin Johnson
You might as well kill yourselves now.
>>69069141
You don't know much about football obviously.
>>69069505
He's a bust.
>>69068691
Colts
Easy mode: Super Bowl 44
2 super bowl titles >>>>>> 1 (>implying anyone counts Baltimore rings)
Hard mode: last season vs Texans, we would have made the playoffs and hasselGOAT would have led us to victory (also assuming he didn't get a season ending injury that game)
God mode: last season vs pats, I wouldn't be haunted by the fake punt debacle
>>69069151
>acting like he should be wearing a gold jacket already.
You're the only one who's mentioned this itt.
>muh division
lol, stop trying to claim the Broncos success, cuck.
>>69069535
Which is why he's a perfect representation of the Lions and the city of Detoilet.
>>69069535
>He's a bust.
Not even good b8. The Lions are trash.
>>69069559
best part is that luck eliminated the AFCW from the playoffs two years in a row
>>69069392
Yeah, I should have been more clear with that: what do favre, peyton, marino, tarkenton, etc. all have in common? mediocre to bad playoff records/performances overall.
Favre - choker
Peyton - [closes own hands around throat]
Marino - [throat stepped on by a very obese man]
Tarkenton - [gasping for air ceases after a minute or two, followed by ghostly silence]
Between those four, there is 1 Super Bowl win that the quarterback was primarily responsible for (Favre's Packers > Pats in 1996.)
I see the same kind of thing in Andrew Luck.
>>69069302
>ashamed to associate with the Raiders
Then stop following my team my man.
Are the Colts fucked now? Texans and Titans are on the rise. I feel like their time to win with Luck was in 2014.
>>69068691
just thought of a way better one
>2011 AFCCG
>Billy Cundiff makes the chip shot FG, Ravens beat us in OT
>proceed to beat the everloving shit out of the Giants in the Super Bowl 46
I would consider that a happy ending to the season. t. Pats fan
>>69069659
Shit I forgot to check.
You're a FUCKING LEAF. Of course you're retarded.
>my team
>>69069700
>my
>>69069604
The Chiefs choked, what else is new. I'd rather see Luck win than them anyway.
>>69069559
So you're seriously making a claim that the AFC South being complete garbage pretty much since Luck started has nothing to do with the Colts making it to the playoffs 75% of Luck's career so far? Top fucking kek.
>>69069253
Carr has played for 2 years and this past years was the only year Carr actually had anything to play with. Not to mention the AFC West is not a bad division, the Chargers are the only real slouches.
>>69069661
It's not your team loser.
>>69069647
peyton was great in the 2006 colts regular season where the offense was carrying a historically bad run defense, and he played really well in the afccg.
to say he had nothing to do with that championship is just wrong, he played 4 very good defenses in that postseason run.
>>69069680
>Titans on the rise
I assume this was a mistake and you meant the Jags.
Speaking of which, the only way I will ever admit Luck is anything more than an above average quarterback is if when the Jags emerge as the powerhouse of the AFCS Luck still somehow finds a way to regularly split with them.
>>69069700
not sure u can make fun of the seahawks just yet bud
>>69069712
even if luck's division was giving him a free pass, he's still beaten 3 playoff caliber teams in his short career, aka infinitely more than carr has
>>69069784
>infinitely more than carr has
CARR HAS ONLY PLAYED TWO FUCKING YEARS AND HIS ROOKIE YEARS HE PLAYED ON ONE OF THE WORST RAIDERS TEAMS I HAVE EVER SEEN FIELDED
WE PLAY IN A DIVISION WITH THE BRONKEKS AND THE CHIEFS WHICH SUDDENLY BECAME GOOD ALSO WE DON'T GET HANDED BABBY SCHEDULES BY THE NFL
>>69069476
>Derek almost has as many TD passes in two years as David did in his career
>Derek will have more than David after his third year
>Derek doesn't even have half of the INTs David did
>mfw some tripfag seriously tries to argue that David's somehow better because of some meme sabermetrics-tier PFR stat.
>>69069817
>wahhh my QB hasn't done anything
>he's still better than that guy who has tho hehe
right now carr has done jack shit in his career, so you don't get to act like he's had a better career than someone who's actually done things
are we done here?
>>69069817
Just stop. Maybe when >we make the playoffs or have a winning season you can make this argument.
>>69069531
Got me there.
>2014 Raiders had the hardest schedule in the league
>literally played the two superbowl teams (patriots and seahawks)
>best receiver was the fullback
>Head coach: Dennis Allen
>Colts play in the fucking AFCS a division with TWO collective owls
>>69069889
what other top tier qb right now has a YPA of 6.2?
my point wasn't that derek was worse than david but that some of his stats are comparable(or worse) to the biggest busts of the last 10 years
and ypa is anything but sabermetric
it's literally YARDS DIVIDED BY ATTEMPTS, unless you're too retarded to know how to divide.
>>69069717
>links to a jewpost
>>69069680
They need to clean house with the FO and coaching staff and rebuild.
>>69069916
>>2014 Raiders had the hardest schedule in the league
>literally played the two superbowl teams (patriots and seahawks)
So did the 2013 colts, and they went 2-0 against the Broncos and Seahawks. And they made the playoffs. And that was lucks second season.
>>69069712
Yeah, the division being bad has something to do with it, but without him the Clots would've been just as bad as the Titans and Jags were over that stretch.
>>69069904
>wahhh my QB hasn't done anything
He has played for 2 fucking years you dolt.
>he's still better than that guy who has tho hehe
I never made that claim, I said Carr WILL be better than Luck you absolute moron.
>>69069910
Are you the same autist who always says >we or >us every time someone uses those words to refer to their team?
>>69069916
List the above average players the Colts had in 2014. Then do the same for the Raiders. You'll learn.
>>69070029
No. I used to get greentexted by other autists who would go >we so now I do it out of habit so they won't respond to me.
>>69070007
Yes, this I agree with. Finally someone who makes sense and isn't a fucking retard.
I've never made the claim Luck is trash, I'm just saying the argument of
>H-he made the playoffs 3 times
is completely irrelevant because the AFCS has been complete trash for all of Luck's career. It is only now that the Jags are probably going to dominate the division and the Texans are starting to do decent will Luck actually have a chance to prove the claims you retards make about him.
>>69070040
Colts:
>Luck
>Wayne
>Vontae
>Hilton
After that it's garbage. Castonzo is/was the most overrated O-lineman in the league, and that was a down year for Mathis IIRC
>>69069904
hes right actually
the raiders have been given the worst schedules for two years playing with nothing until now. Meanwhile the super hyped to go 14-2 unstoppable colts started 0-2 ( which I predicted btw ).
>>69070029
>wahhhhhhhh people don't take my QB seriously despite the fact that he's done nothing and has been around for 2 years
>but h-he'll totally be better than this guy who's already done things, my proof is _______
and your retarded "muh division argument" makes no sense because luck actually did things in the playoffs after making them, like beating two big bad AFCW teams that were stopping lil carr from making the playoffs :(
also you forgot your dumb trip, but it's okay, leave it off
>>69070074
>takes one of the worst rosters in the League, wins 10+ games every year, gets in the playoffs
>doesn't prove anything because 2 of the teams in the division were bad
Compare SOS and get back to me. I'm sure their division softened it a little, but it's not like they were ducking anyone.
>>69069776
are you forgetting he got either outscored by or tied with Vinatieri on raw scoring numbers in each playoff game and collectively?
>Peyton had 4 TDs (inc. 1 rush TD) for 24 points
>Adam had 42 points on 14 FG (49 if you include XPs)
that's terrible, not good
>>69070078
>Wayne
He was like 1000 years old.
Now compare to the Raiders.
>>69070120
And lets not forget the NFL has once again fucked us in the ass with a bullshit schedule for next year.
19. Richard Sherman
>>69069889
David has a ring and he had to do fuck all to get it. not even bitter here, just stating da fax
>>69070164
you still have to get your kicker in too field goal range... i dont really get this meme
also wheres the new thread
18. DeAndre Hopkins
>>69070208
patriots fans hate peyton a lot
>>69070078
and that garbage team was playing in a garbage division whose only wall is the patriots. As where the 2014 garbage raiders were playing the bandits of the /nfl/ almost every week and Carr did fine.
Including almost beating the patriots, literally better than luck could dream of.
>>69069889
>most frequently sacked QB in NFL history
>surprised his stats are bad
>>69070134
>wahhhhhhhh people don't take my QB seriously despite the fact that he's done nothing and has been around for 2 years
Do you even hear yourself, that is a legitimate argument to make and you think by making me sounds like a baby it dismisses it. Fuck off Phillyfag.
>but h-he'll totally be better than this guy who's already done things, my proof is _______
My proof is Luck has played in a babby division which is now starting to get good with the Jags and Texans on the rise. I'll tell you what, in a couple years when the Jags are running the division, if Luck still manages to win regularly I will admit I am wrong. Until then enjoy your shitty team which might only win 5 games next season.
>>69070135
>takes one of the worst rosters in the League, wins 10+ games every year, gets in the playoffs
Look at their schedule you mongoloid.
>>69070278
>Look at their schedule you mongoloid.
Show me the SOS you mongoloid.
>>69070302
I said look at their schedule, Luck is a division/schedule babby.
>>69070189
>>69070224
Sorry, those were 20 and 19.
18. Patrick Peterson
>>69070329
I said check the SOS, Luck is a much better QB than Carr.
>caring about SOS before the season
No one does this, right?
... right?
>>69070270
tfw Tannehill is the modern David Carr
>>69070329
his only wins came when the other team collapsed too lel
How many times do the patriots have to steamroll them to learn to tank for a decent team.
IND:Colts make QB Luck highest-paid player ever
FA:Manziel says he's going sober starting July 1
SEA:Seahawks lock Doug Baldwin up through 2020
ARZ:Report: Cards want Mathieu deal before camp
MIN:Cordarrelle Patterson: I need to work harder
FA:Ex-Colt Tipton killed in accidental shooting
DAL:Ezekiel Elliott could crack 300 carries?
TEN:Mariota will hand it off '40 times' to win
BUF:Legendary coach Buddy Ryan dies at 85
WAS:Keith Marshall left off roster projection
OAK:Amari Cooper 'excellent' in offseason program
BAL:Mike Wallace: I have a lot up my sleeves
>>69070406
why didnt u just make a new thread you fucking leaf
>>69070397
He still doesn't get sacked nearly as often as Carr did.
17. Russell Wilson
>>69070363
>Luck is a much better QB than Carr.
Even that is debatable, but I agree with it. Carr will be better in the future, anyone who even questions that knows absolutely nothing about football.
>>69070397
Luck gets sacked more than Tannehill, he's the only QB who gets sacked and hit more
16. A.J. Green
>>69065758
God I love you harbawwww. Don't ever leave us again.
>>69060229
It's Steve Young you underages shitters
