My fellow Englishmen, you WILL be cheering on Wales today, the only other constituent nation of the UK that uncucked itself on Thursday, right?
yeah but just because of bayol
of coursh
>>68885946
To fucking right.
Who do you think fucks more slags? Farage or Alan Pardew?
go back to pol
Fuck bayol. Used to respect that man but he can fuck out now Bruv, get me?
Can't wait till he gets BTFO and crWla back to Madrid where he will go back to being a bitch for tsuuii blood.
Ronaldo should put a leash on that scrub and should publicly humiliate him everytime he doesn't pass to him...silly balding bitch. Bale should have to lick his boots and blowy in the shower after games is tsuuu is not happy with his bitch performance
>uncucked
lel, enjoy being USA's lapdog (even more now)
>>68887427
Mick McCarthy
England-Wales Empire WHEN?
For the Glory of Wales!
>>68887478
>empire
Hard to do that with a plummeting economy. Also
>all these Welsh bowing to their English masters
WALES
A
L
E
S
COME ON WALES!
>>68887478
Why is the Irish flag part of that?
>>68887478
Lol. That flag has a cross too many.
>>68887510
aesthetics
>>68887524
Not a good enough reason to appropriate a flag of a country not in the union by the time this would happen desu
>>68887535
What are your suggestions?
>>68887557
Just England and Wales like it would be.
Maybe colour it shit to represent the economy
>>68885946
Let's face it; Bayol is better than all the players on the NI team combined. There's no way he isn't putting at least 2 goals in the net.
>>68888052
Bale will save us all
>>68887510
It's the grass
>>68887478
This one is better.
i'm actively cheering against them and england now
fuck the UK. i can't support us any more. hope iceland smash us to pieces.
>>68888361
Scotland really are very salty about this whole referendum thing, aren't they?
>>68888377
live in essex m8. my city voted leave
>>68888361
lol maybe you should stop crying and make the EU listen to the UK Demands so they can stay you dumb scot
>>68885946
You mean cucked itself? Self-imposed recession for muh sovereignty
I'm rooting for every British team to lose. I fucking hate being English.
>>68887457
They were only useful when they let us manipulate the EU, desu.
Norn Iron here, fuck you all I'm getting an Irish passport
UEFA should ban BBC from broadcasting and ban your shit teams from participating, you made a decision, now you can have commonwealth games instead of Euros
>>68885946
Absolutely, God save your beautiful lands bros
>>68889698
t. Donald Tusk
>>68888670
same except NI. at least they voted remain
england and wales can go to hell
>>68889737
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/24/the-british-are-frantically-googling-what-the-eu-is-hours-after-voting-to-leave-it/
>>68889744
All David Cameron desu
>>68889698
>belgium can't tell the difference between being in europe and being in the EU
gee maybe farage was right after all
>>68888670
OK Ahmed
>>68889740
Scotcuck detected
>68888888
>won't be able to go to an eu country to do a cheap masters and pick up a second language after finishing my degree
>won't be covered under european healthcare agreements when traveling now
>economy gonna be rocky for at least 2 years, fewer jobs
>higher prices for goods
th-thanks guys...
>>68889804
>everyone calling me scottish
fuck off spastic
>>68885946
>tfw you though that N.Ireland were bros but it turns out that they're remain cucks
At least Wales turned out to be bros.
>>68888361
Do you think England will get booed in their remaining matches? I'm willing to bet they do.
>>68889902
I hope so. The anthem too.
>>68889944
Scots aren't invited mate, fuck off and drown yourself in your worthless oil.
Nationalist living in Northern Ireland.
I am actively cheering on Northern Ireland for the first time in my life to smash those sheep shagging, Leave Voting fucks.
Wales can go fuck.
got norn iron in the office sweapstake so no
ULSTER SAYS GOAL
>>68890003
good lad, lad.
>>68889985
told you i'm from essex you wanky cunt. scotlel isn't relevant because they're fucking shite at football.
such a shame, i was so proud of us everyone qualifying and then you wankers had to go and ruin the country for everyone.
>>68890043
> This salt
Merkel should use your tears for lube for fucking you up the arse with.
>>68885946
>Leaving the EU
>Uncuck
It's amazing how easy it is to get the uneducated to vote against their own best interests. Enjoy your Recession.
>>68889698
Yeah because its the EU cup...
>>68889698
>he would rather have turkey in the EU
>>68890086
Be quiet Cooper, you know fuck all about politics
Stick to chopping wood for your prehistoric dwelling you fucking peasant, also don't forget to pay your respects to OUR queen, cuck
>wanna support Walels
>but don't support Brexit
wat do
>>68890468
>Doesn't support brexit
Why because you're now stuck with all the immigrants that YOUR prime minister decided it was a great idea to let into Europe in the first place
Moral of the story : never leave a woman in charge
Any plans on leaving UEFA? All those filthy foreign players/managers took yr jerbs!
>>68890740
>Maggie fucked Britain
>Merkel fucked Germany
>Hillary is gonna fuck the USA
Pottery
>>68890740
Merkel isn't our prime minister
>>68890911
we don't have a prime minister you pillock
since the conversation is heading this way, why are people saying the country is fucked and ruined and will never recover, i dont really see anything different that is going to affect me, pretty much stayed indifferent to things during the whole lead up to the vote and dont see anything different now
>>68890954
Case in point
>>68890740
She's the Chancellor
Imagine actually BEING in the EU have having a layer of government ontop of your own government.
>>68889698
What is Turkey
>>68885946
>uncucked
Not possible, you can't uncuck yourself. Sorry Britfag.
Are they going to play the same anthem twice?
but the Wales fans will probably boo God Save the Queen, meanwhile the Northern Irish will be singing God Save the Queen
so what now?
>>68890911
Whatever she is, she runs your country and she's willingly inviting immigrants and terrorists to come and reside there, time to fire up the old chambers again eh?
>>68891139
I stand corrected, my point was obvious though
>>68891341
whats their anthem?
the german people are at breaking point, i look forward to seeing them rise again and take their country back from merkel
they are some of the most fearsome men on the planet and no amount of brainwashing about tolerance and acceptance will make them feel fine with being isolated and oppressed in their own country in favour of bending over to different cultures and people who have been allowed into the country without wanting to integrate or assimilate
>Inflation rates set to sore
>This means mortgages and rent will skyrocket so that banks and greedy landlords will maintain their profits
>Fuel prices set to rise by at least 3p by next week and as much as 10-15p after we are officially out due to oil being calculated and traded in US dollars
>Conservative government set to rule forever now, because SNP will always dominate voting in Scotland (Ironically London was the only region to vote leave, and London is also where 80% of Conservative voters live)
>No more single market, meaning all of our big multinationals are fucked and therefore all the employees of our big companies are also fucked and will receive paycuts, redundancies and MORE 0 hour contracts
>NHS will now be fucked as we struggle to find enough qualified staff to fill roles
>People wanting to visit EU countries will now have to pay £100s more in flights, currency conversation and living costs
>UK workers will not find it nearly impossible to work in the EU, just like they currently do with America, Canada etc.
>MASSIVE shortage of unskilled labour, meaning too many people at University and a significant shortage of jobs for graduates (as if it wasn't bad enough)
>Want to buy something from Germany? Maybe a rare DVD for £15? Enjoy your customs tax and your £8 Royal Mail handling charge. Meaning that £15 is now £25-30
>Employees working rights are now up for 'discussion' say goodbye to trade unions and fairness in the workplace. You now answer to Boris and co
But never mind eh lads? Mussies out! We took back control!! Sure, Scotland will leave next year with their massive oil and tourism revenues but never mind, we'll have.... uh.... our massive manufacturing industry? Or wait that's not right, our banks and financial services? Well they're already on their way to EU countries to re-establish themselves, so maybe not them... but we'll still have our.... uh... British Identity!!! God Save The Queen, am I right? We sure showed those cucks!
>>68886033
CRASHING THIS UNION
>>68891797
basically, we will all be poorer and have less money, yet the price of literally everything will go up
except property, if you own a house or own property you're fucked. it's now worth 15-20% less than you paid for it 5 years ago
>>68891797
>Scotland
>Tourism
Who the fuck would want to go to Scotland lmao.
Also, oil is cheap as chips lad. Not worth the barrels it's kept in ( I realise they don't actually use individual barrels to store oil).
>>68891935
hahaha retard, scotland are propping up the uk with the oil, without it the uk would crumble
>>68891935
>Who the fuck would want to go to Scotland
More people than would want to go to Australia LMAO.
>Oil crash
Still worth 30% of the UK economy. Even if it has lost its way.
WE'RE ENGLAND AND WALES
ENGLAND AND WAAAALLLEEEEEESS
FUCK OFF BRUSSELS
WE'RE ENGLAND AND WALES
>>68891935
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Scotland
>Scotland is a well-developed tourist destination, with tourism generally being responsible for sustaining 200,000 jobs mainly in the service sector, with tourist spending averaging at £4bn per year
And to answer your question
>In terms of overseas visitors, those from the United States made up 24% of visits to Scotland, with the United States being the largest source of overseas visitors, and Germany (9%), France (8%), Canada (7%) and Australia (6%), following behind
Australians.
>>68891797
>Using facts
just go with your gut la, fucking ragheads out! britain first! britain for the british!
I wonder how the EU is doing today without our $3 trillion economy
Probably not as well as they were doing 2 days ago
>>68892226
yeah we sure showed them
this is like cutting off your own dick to piss off your wife
>>68892287
When the EU collapses within the next decade you and the other Bremainians will be glad that we were the first ones to get out
>>68889882
Hard to vote leave when half of the population are Irish nationalists that want to unite Ireland
>>68892388
the northern irish aren't stupid enough to vote to unify ireland and cut off their money, and the irish aren't stupid enough to take in a financial black hole
>>68890740
What the fuck? Didn't you guys hardly take any refugees in at all?
>>68892343
If it collapses, it will have collapsed BECAUSE of Britain leaving. Not because it was a flawed, unworkable organisation.
So no, I won't be glad at all. Each individual country will be weaker overall.
>>68885946
You do realise that the NI team is made up of unionists, and the unionist constituencies of NI voted to leave?
KYS faggot.
>>68888328
>Lion rampant
That's Scottish.
>>68892559
m8 we have literally 0 influence in the EU despite paying in a lot more than most countries. it really is a one way relationship. but you're a Britain-hating globalist so it's pointless trying to reason with you
>>68892892
>m8 we have literally 0 influence in the EU despite paying in a lot more than most countries
utter bs
>hurr durr you hate britain
great argument
>>68892892
>m8 we have literally 0 influence in the EU
This is just not true. Germany is the only player that is bigger than us and arguably has more influence than we do. Britain already has loads of special rules to suit us.
Britain literally, objectively earns more money from being part of the EU than it does in contributions. If you can't understand this then you're mentally retarded. It's not one-way at all. It's the reason we have the 5th biggest economy in the world.
One day later and we've already lost 350billion from this exit. That's more than we have paid in, in 3 years of EU contributions.
>Britain hating
I don't give a fuck about national pride m8, it's fucking retarded. I don't care about being white, black, Muslim, Turkish, Christian or Jew. I'm a rational and logical being and all I care about sustaining our economy and thriving as a power politically and financially. Something we simply cannot do alone in 2016.
>>68893020
So are you denying that we aren't nearly as influential as Germany and France, despite being of a similar size and stature. They were always short-changing us m9
>>68892559
>it will have collapsed BECAUSE of Britain leaving. Not because it was a flawed, unworkable organisation.
Autism
Voting to leave was objectively the wrong decision and you're a fucking idiot if you think it was a good idea.
The only people of significance who thought it was a good idea are selfish idiots who care more about their own publicity than anything else.
If Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage could, they'd hand our country to ISIS in a heartbeat if it meant they'd be made PM. That's the truth. They don't give a toss about Britain. All they want is to be charge of whatever is left.
>>68893296
>They don't give a toss about Britain. All they want is to be charge of whatever is left.
Gove is the same.
>>68893184
We had influence if we bothered to use it. We had a bit less influence than the germans as they have what 15 or 20 million more people. There was nothing in the EU's structure to stop us having just as much influence as France.
How did they screw us? We will be poorer out of the EU, doesn't sound like being screwed in it desu. Free movement applied to them with all the exact same rules, it's nonsense to pretend we somehow got a bum deal, we got all the benefits and didn't have to join the euro or schengen which have fucked germany and france.
>>68893232
No, it's just a fact.
It's like Messi leaving Barcelona because he thinks the team is shit. Then once he leaves (and the team inevitably turns to shit) players like Iniesta and Neymar also put in transfer requests so they can join more successful clubs.
Doesn't mean that Messi was right in the first place. Or that Messi was justified in his decision to leave. Only that Messi leaving the team made the team weaker.
Pretty basic stuff. You're fairly autistic if you don't get it.
>>68889698
fuck off juncker
the bad thing here is that i won't be able to go to the uk anymore for 20€ and the visa thing
>>68893164
This guy gets it. No one with a basic economic knowledge would think the UK would be better off outside the EU. But logic and rationality fails in the face of muh freedom, muh soveregnity, muh refugees
>>68891797
this sums it up
absolute farce that cameron left this up to a referendum. one of the worst moves in British political history, a completely selfish act to gain votes, now look what he's done
i hope he's hounded into an assisted suicide
I visited Germany a couple of weeks ago and I didn't really see that many Muslims 2bh
>>68893296
>>68893361
>>68893557
Why are you whining on 4chan when you could be making preparations to move to one of those EU paradise nations that you desperately want to be a part of? We won't miss you.
>>68893557
Cameron is at fault for putting this bullshit to a referendum but it takes two to tango and you also have to blame the short sighted voters that chose leave. I dunno how many people I've read that said 'I voted leave as a meme!'
>>68893460
>muh freedom, muh soveregnity, muh refugees
It's ridiculous, isn't it?
>>68893164
>One day later and we've already lost 350billion from this exit
We're still in the EU
>>68893831
Yes actually, because two of those are just populist concepts with barely any practical value, just buzzwords basically
>>68893755
I'm not going to blame idiots for being idiots. It's common knowledge that most people are fucking retarded. They enjoy X Factor, Gogglebox and pulling the wings off flies. I'm not going to blame people for doing what comes natural to them.
Cameron is to blame because he's an educated man who should also be aware of this fact. And not leave it up to plebs to decide the future of a country. He gambled and got it wrong. This is unacceptable for a PM.
>>68885946
Absolutely
>>68893997
You're right, it's going to get a hell of a lot worse. Strap yourself in, because we're in for a hell of a bumpy ride which could last decades.
>>68894084
If everything is fucked we can just rejoin the EU, it's not like they wouldn't let us in.
Of course that's not going to happen.
>>68894015
Yeah let's sell our ability to decide laws that affect the people in our country for money, money is what is most important in the world because you can touch it and count it
>>68892559
>Each individual country will be weaker overall.
If you bothered to look up history you would know that this would be a good thing.
>>68894133
As already discussed, the EU may well fold completely now that Britain is leaving. There's no going back.
>>68893424
>>68891797
Read this, economically it's also a mess, there's nothing as coward as money if it smells inestability ,also now Cameron has country completely divided with literally (as in, literally) half the country against leave and half against staying.
I hope there are no booings of anthems, that is utterly disgusting and has no place in this competition.
I know this might be a surprise for some, but UK is not out of EU just yet. This will take, if, at least 2 years.
>>68894156
It's not like the UK didn't have a say in EU policymaking
>>68894133
>If everything is fucked we can just rejoin the EU, it's not like they wouldn't let us in.
they wont let us back any time soon, too much risk in giving other countries ideas of leaving
>>68894211
the eu wont fold lol
>>68894024
>Cameron is to blame because he's an educated man who should also be aware of this fact. And not leave it up to plebs to decide the future of a country. He gambled and got it wrong. This is unacceptable for a PM.
What a shame that the country that gave us Magna Carta and modern parliaments breeds undemocratic fascists like you.
>>68893460
Principles are worth voting for, even if it might cost something.
I don't like this new politics where we should apparently make all decisions purely for reasons of our pocket, especially when it's people who are "left wing" pushing that narrative.
>>68894196
Why would pre-1970s history be of any relevance to the current day?
Times have changed, we live in a global world. We no longer make things in Britain. We trade. We buy and sell.
>>68894133
It'll take 2 years to get out, maybe more. Then 7 years to negotiate trade deals. Then after that we decide we're truly fucked, then have to spend another 5 years minimum negotiating our way back in? Lmao. You'll be an old man by then. Your whole life will have been a desperate struggle. And by then everyone else will be light-years ahead of us and we'll have no power or standing in the world anymore. Our economy won't be in the top 50, let alone the top 5.
Unworkable.
>>68894405
Why are you trying to shill for remain now? It's too late. You lost.
>>68894405
>Our economy won't be in the top 50, let alone the top 5.
let's not get carried away mate, we will slip down a bit but lol top 50
>>68894156
>>68894156
>our ability to decide laws that affect the people in our country
Uh.. we have more power and control IN the EU m8.. that's how you dictate policy, by having a seat at the negotiating table...
>money is what is important
Sorry, but like it or not, IT IS. Money is what makes the world spin. It's what pays for our national health service, it's what pays for food and for quality of life. It's what has made Britain a great country.
Don't think money is important? Try moving to Malawi or somewhere without a penny to your name. See how much you enjoy it there.
>>68889698
We haven't left fucking Europe, we left the EU. Why are people this fucking dumb? Do you think the UK is its own continent now?
>>68894405
>Why would pre-1970s history be of any relevance to the current day?
Because western europe is going almost exactly the way the Romans did.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/christian-eriksen-could-quit-tottenham-hotspur-following-brexit-result-agent-claims-5965571/
>>68894024
And that cost him his job, very well justified. Buddy you need to move to the states cause you're fucked.
>>68894368
Why the fuck do you think parliament exists in the first place? There are issues that cannot be left at the hand of the common folk. What Brexit shows is once again that direct democracy is terrible.
>>68894368
>undemocratic
We voted Cameron in. He's supposed to do his job by deciding what is best. That's democracy.
Democracy is not throwing decisions up to a public vote. That's retarded, unfair and unworkable.
>>68894392
Fair enough, I guess, maybe it will turn out good.
But imo, an exit is a too drastic decision, a permanent solution to a temporary problem
>>68894405
All this and yet none of our daily lives will change in the slightest
>>68894642
> General hedionism
> Invaded and attacked by barbarians and no one bothers to do anything
Checks out. Europe is kill.
>>68892226
Shouldn't you be wondering how the UK will do without the EU's 13 trillion economy?
Absolutely
>>68894405
You are one pathetic faggot.
Kill yourself
The UK won't leave the EU
Article 50 will never be invoked.
People will get scared. When the next GE is called, Labour will offer a second referendum in which we will vote remain
>>68894545
By having a seat at the table I can affect the lives of the people living in Denmark, Portugal, Slovenia, etc. I don't give a shit how they live their lives. By being a part of the EU parliament cannot make laws reducing EU immigration, cannot make laws regaining control of the UK's fishing areas, and has to spend months negotiating with the leaders of EU countries just to decide how a portion of our welfare budget is spent
>>68893557
God forbid a PM of a democratic country leaves an issue to be decided upon by the democracy!
can we boo the english anthem on monday?
>>68885946
Yeah but rest of Europe won't anymore.
Enjoy it.
>>68891975
>>68892007
>>68892065
I always laugh when Scottish people try to pretend that their country is in any way significant and not a shitty irrelevant place that no one cares about.
>>68894800
>Implying
>>68894661
>Why the fuck do you think parliament exists in the first place?
The brits invented it to put limits to the king, not the masses.
Check your history burger.
>>68894665
>We voted Cameron in
>Democracy is not throwing decisions up to a public vote.
Blatant contradiction.
I thought Northern Ireland voted leave too?
>>68894661
>What Brexit shows is once again that direct democracy is terrible.
Absolutely.
There is a reason that only the brightest and the best go to University, and that from that select few only the very, VERY best go on to work in the very highest, specialised positions available.
You can't let Joe the welder decide whether or not it's a good idea to leave the single market and negotiate trade deals separately. He doesn't even know what the fucking EU is. He just makes shit jokes about women with head-scarves with his mates in the garage.
>>68894024
>>68894024
well that's the quintessence of democracy, everyone's vote has the same value, whether they watch Big Brother or work in the JPL
meritocracy when
>>68894726
You should worry about your own economy mate
>>68894886
Yeah because the king held absolute power. Yet you ignored my whole argument that instead of this being a parliamentary issue they left it to a direct vote which was absolutely a blunder.
Educate yourself... Wait no wonder you South Americans are uneducated 3rd worlders anyways
>>68894665
>Democracy is not throwing decisions up to a public vote.
That is literally a type of democracy, it's called direct democracy and it's just as valid of a form of democracy as any other
>>68894916
Joe the Welder sounds like a lad
>>68894726
>Says fucking portugal
Enjoy extra taxes
>>68894886
>>68894886
No, there's a difference.
You can "vote" for a manager to take over your team, but you can't "vote" for him to sub X player on after 60 minutes. You already made your decision by picking that manager. You have to trust his decision.
See
>>68894916
Where's my vote on drink-driving limits?
Where's my vote on gun control in the UK?
Where's my vote on legalised gambling?
Where's my vote on class sizes?
Unworkable.
>>68893557
>I hope he's hounded into an assisted suicide
TOP kek
Yeah, we're completely doomed. Just like Norway and Switzerland, the two non-EU countries that also have the highest standard of living in Europe. Oh wait.
When Trump gets elected we'll have much closer co-operation between the UK and America and the Anglosphere will start to dominate global issues, with the EU sliding into irrelevance. Won't be long until France, Germany and Italy are kicked off the G8.
>>68894993
direct democracy works in small countries like switzerland because most share culture and views on where the nation should head, in big countries with millions and millions of people indirect democracy is better i think
>>68894916
Not in the UK, every retard goes to university here. London Met or Bolton Uni would be much dumber than the average sixth form.
>>68894916
fuck off cuck, go revise for your womens studies degree.
>calls itself the 'United Kingdom Independence Party'
>breaks up the United Kingdom
LMAO
This country's economy is going down the toilet, we do NOT export anywhere near enough to make favourable trade deals on our own, the huge financial sector and their GDP-fudging will both be discovered and leave the country, Scotland is going to leave, NI will leave if they do, Wales will probably leave when it realises how much funding it recieved from the EU and that Westminster is unable to pick up the bill, the far more white European populations of all three will leave England with an even higher % of Muslims and blacks as before, we're going to experience a massive white flight brain drain due to the loss of E£1bn in science grants from the EU, and the history of this spectred isle has been consigned to the bin. Our Queen took to the throne when there was still much of the British Empire left, and when she passes away there will only be the Kingdom of England - a Muslim-ridden, technological backwater, with an ever receding economy.
Thanks lads, you've truly and utterly fucked the UK.
>>68885946
>the only other constituent nation of the UK that uncucked itself
you mean cucked itself right?
>>68894969
Democracy usually works because the retards who read 'Zoo' and 'Nuts' don't bother voting anyway and have no interest in politics because they don't understand it. That leaves the middle and upper classes to decide their government and they are at least somewhat clued up about what's going on.
These referendums bring every fucker out of the woodwork though. There's a reason this is the highest voting turnout in over 20 years...
>>68894916
Why are you qualified to have an opinion?
>>68894916
I can't tell if this is sarcasm
>>68894916
>>68894916
>AH BLOO BLOO BLOO
Accept our cocks ya cuck
>>68895019
Those aren't constitutional issues
>>68895010
Enjoy yr NHS without the Portuguese and Spanish nurses, Hungarian and Polish doctors
etc.
>>68894916
>that select few
>50% of the school leaving population
>>68895055
>Norway
Oil
>Switzerland
Banks
Britain has neither on the level of these. Half of the money we take in is from trade with EU (for goods or services, usually financial services).
So yeah, no.
>>68895100
not really, its still only about 40% that go to uni
honestly just imagine how thick some people who get a couple of Ds at gcse, are forced to keep studying til 18 and fuck up all their a-levels are
not to say london met or bolton uni are fine institutions full of geniuses, just that youre underestimating how thick most people are especially as everyone stays at school til 18 now
>>68894916
Jesus fucking christ have you just got done posting this on Facebook?
>>68895055
Norway and Switzerland both accept the freedom of movement which was one of the main reasons for people to vote leave.
Well, to be fair, the main reason was simple xenophobia but that was how it manifested itself.
>>68888328
polska!
>>68894916
Just retarded, anyone with half a brain knows that being informed does not equal going to university, how dare you presume that the working class are less intelligent than you and don't deserve the vote. It's that kind of flippant attitude that leads to rise of dictatorships.
Also:
> only the brightest and the best go to University
This hasn't been true for decades, essentially anyone can go to a University nowadays so long as they don't fail high school.
>>68895228
yeah well, you wont be telling us how bent our bananas have to be and how fluffy our pillows are anymore fucking kraut 2 world wars and one world cup doo-da doo-da
>>68894988
>Yeah because the king held absolute power.
Unrelated
>>68894988
>Yet you ignored my whole argument that instead of this being a parliamentary issue they left it to a direct vote which was absolutely a blunder.
Didn't ignore it. It told the brit this point of view is undemocratic and that's my point. You might disagree with giving power to the masses , but not doing is just undemocratit wheter you like to admit it or not.
>>68894988
>Wait no wonder you South Americans are uneducated 3rd worlders anyways
Talks about education and then comes with this typical /pol/ shit.
Educate yourself burger
>>68895276
m8 the working classes are effectively now the people who fail 'high school'...
with uni being easy to get into you can get out of the working class trap and into lower middle class existence if you have half an ounce of sense
>>68895337
Graduating with a degree in post-colonial African feminism and working in a call centre for 20k a year is not middle class.
>>68895131
Bachelor's degree from a top 100 world University (including 2 years of studying Politics and Economics)
Master of Science from another top 100 world University
Tested IQ of 138
Experience of managing teams of highly skilled people
Experience of managing and being responsible for millions of pounds for a FTSE 100 company.
But despite all of that, I don't consider myself capable or qualified making a decision about the UK and its position in Europe. So why the fuck would the rest of this country be able to? I'm not a politician, I wasn't elected to decide, I shouldn't be able to decide. Simple as that. It's common sense.
>>68895149
It's not. Not sure why you would think that.
>>68895337
Fuck off, you just become working class with a useless degree.
>>68895464
All that and you still have the opinions of a thick fuck?
Is this sort of how it felt when we voted Obama in? A really dumb, emotionally-driven series of events we sort of knew would fuck the country over but acquiesced anyway?
>>68895220
This.
People underestimate how stupid the general populace truly is.
>>68895276
>how dare you presume that the working class are less intelligent than you
Fuck off Joe, I respect that you clean my car and take my bins out, but with all due respect, you shouldn't be having a say in these matters.
>>68885946
I'm from scotland and voted leave, you fucking shit stain
>>68895337
I know plenty of fucking morons who went to university and became useless cunts the moment they finished. Its not something special.
>>68895670
Are you annoyed at the way people are implying all of Scotland voted remain?
I'd feel bad if was a leave voter in Scotland.
>>68895337
Fucking what?
Uni people end up with no job. Employers don't want to hire someone in their 20's with no work expierence.
Glad I finish my A-Levels and went straight into work. Got a house and a car.
People I knew who went Uni are scrapping for cheap temp office jobs and living with their parents and then blame everyone else for their shortcomings.
>>68895429
It nearly is.
And nobody earns 20k in a call centre unless they're based in the city of London.
Try 15k.
reddit started to cry when i made the proposition to take away the right to vote from stupid people
>>68895429
ok a degree that doesnt exist and a situation that doesnt exist outside of a few terrible years when we were in recession and decent jobs were hard to come by
i have a fair few m8s who have got middling humanities 2:1s from good but not great unis who are in a solidly middle class professional existence, it's not that difficult to do - just isn't - and those who don't do it are genuinely a bit thick
you can of course do well without going to uni too, it's far from the be all and end all, but it's generally still the easiest route in life and only thickos cant do it pretty much and they stay poor
>>68895522
'useless degree', tired meme - most degrees are simply signalling, some have direct career value but vast majority of people in their working life barely use anything they did in their degree
it's simply to show you have a level of competence, to stick with something for a few years and jump through the hoops
t. someone who had a couple of years in recruitment when the recession was hitting hard
>>68895704
stats don't bear this out, but alright kid
>>68895704
>A-Levels
So you didn't fail High School. You did reasonably well and got a job. Lucky you.
Class doesn't exclusively mean education. It's just one of the factors.
>>68895826
I'm middle class as fug but never went to uni. I got a job instead.
>>68895755
Is the eu ecomony this shit lol? You can easily make double that in the USA
>>68895661
>Fuck off Joe, I respect that you clean my car and take my bins out, but with all due respect, you shouldn't be having a say in these matters.
Once again with the patronising, I study Physics and Pure mathematics at my university, god knows I'm better informed, and if we're showing our cocks, have a higher base level of intelligence than you.
You're just an edgy teenage cuck with no principles who only agrees with democracy when it suits them. Get back to your gender studies degree mate, I'll be laughing when 'Joe the car washer' makes more money than you do over the next couple decades.
>>68895826
> High School
You should go to college and go to an education instiution that isn't full of 11 year olds.
Everyone who did A-Levels at school end up as losers. Being at school when you're 17/18? Fucking lol
>>68895795
>'useless degree', tired meme - most degrees are simply signalling, some have direct career value but vast majority of people in their working life barely use anything they did in their degree
this
there's only a very small number of degrees that are actually essential to getting jobs, usually they have specific qualifications as part of them
you just need a solid 2:1 in any subject and you're set to apply for any graduate job with any company, the rest is all about personality, motivation, internships/experience etc.
>>68895661
>Fuck off Joe, I respect that you clean my car and take my bins out, but with all due respect, you shouldn't be having a say in these matters.
You are everything I fucking hate about this country at the moment.
I bet Northern Irish are feeling sad/cucked that English are supporting Wales. Northern Irish identity has always been muh english heritage.
>>68895755
>It nearly is.
no it's not ffs
A middle class salary should be able to sustain a small family, pay for a car and a house. With 15k you won't be able to do shit.
>>68895981
>going to college
only the retards went to college where i live m8
leave school at 18 ---> university is what the smart kids did
>>68896003
>you just need a solid 2:1 in any subject and you're set to apply for any graduate job with any company, the rest is all about personality, motivation, internships/experience etc.
That's not true at all though. The result has fuck all to do with it when it comes to an irrelevant degree. What makes the difference is where it's from.
A degree in English from Oxbridge is worth infinitely more than one from Fuck Knows Polytechnic.
>>68895698
Yes, i'm embarrassed by this countrys attitude now, I don't know what happened, everyone is turning faggy and there's nothing i can do.
If there's another vote for independence, i will vote no, like i did last time. I love being apart of britain, I consider myself british, I love the english, the welsh and the northern irish. If we remain in the EU, I will have to leave this place, that i used to adore.
>>68896033
eh? I didn't say it was middle class, i said 20k is nearly there.
the AVERAGE household salary in the uk is 27k a year, that's usually for TWO people or maybe even more than two
so half of that is 13.5k a year per person, ball park, round up to 15k because some people live alone
if ONE person earns 20k then that's above average and you are doing pretty well for yourself, i'd say that's arguably middle class territory, and if that person is educated and went to university then i'd say they certainly are middle class, especially if they are still fairly young (under 35).
>>68896080
>leave school at 18 ---> university is what the smart kids did
More like the work shy manchildren who now populate Reddit.
>>68896108
true to some extent, but generally getting less true as time goes by as employers are generally disregarding uni degrees a bit anyway, and trying to be a bit less elitist and just look at the actual result you got mixed in with judging if thats good for your background too
what could make a huge difference is contacts you can make at oxford compared to huddersfield or w/e
>>68896176
>I love being apart of britain, I consider myself british, I love the english, the welsh and the northern irish. If we remain in the EU, I will have to leave this place, that i used to adore.
Well congratulations! By voting to leave the EU, you've kickstarted the death of the UK! You're a massive fucking retard!
>>68896108
No m8, I work in recruitment for a company that has annual graduate programs and internships. I also went through the system of applications for 2 years before I got this job (2008-2010).
I know how it works because I'm one of the ones that make it work.
You can get into a technology graduate programe with a degree in geography with some companies.
Cardiff voted to remain... don't hate us eurobros. There are just a lot of uneducated outside of the cities. Hurrrr lets get rid of the pakis.
>>68889698
>muh Bruxelles
>>68896382
More like Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, University Professors, MPs, Accountants, and Business leaders.
>>68896671
Those are literally all from India.
The ones from Uni are in the extreme minority.
>>68896176
If you wanted to be part of Britain you should have voted remain, idiot.
Now the second referendum will happen and the retards that voted no last time will all vote yes this time.
I've always been a proud Welshman but this is the most ashamed I've ever been. To be lumped in with the English like this, to be lumped in with the ignorant. I understand it's down to poverty essentially, and Wales is very poor, but the fact that people voted on the basis of emotion, not the facts, is just so fucking disheartening. Especially when those very people benefit the most from being in the EU. Tangibly so. It's a shocking failure of Labour/Remain to not have campaigned properly in Wales. It just goes to prove how much the media ignores Wales as well. It should have been a fucking LANDSLIDE in Wales.
>>68897058
> basis of emotion, not the facts
Seems to be the other way around the way remain babies are acting.
>>68896012
This.
>>68896108
>A degree in English from Oxbridge is worth infinitely more than one from Fuck Knows Polytechnic.
It's not 1970 anymore lad. These days a degree is the minimum standard to even make an application, it's not even considered any further. It's literally just a checklist which gets ticked. Usually the standard is 2:1.
>mfw idiots killed themselves working hard day and night to get a 1st when i slept through uni and got a 2:1 then got a better job than them
>>68896584
>There are just a lot of uneducated outside of the cities
The irony.
What should I bet my Welsh friends?
>>68887453
>what did he mean by this?
>>68897058
You just can't accept it can you? Maybe get of your moral highground and actually try to understand your oppositions' position.
>>68896012
>>68897108
It's the truth though.
You wouldn't want Joe the morally/mentally questionable welder having a vote at the Surgeons consultancy meeting to decide whether or not you need surgery, would you? No you fucking wouldn't, so don't be so fucking stupid.
>have to sit through 120 more minutes of bus parking before the inevitable penalties
kill me now
don't be too harsh on Norn Iron
the Scotch voted remain up spite the UK, Norn Iron voted remain because they don't want to get kneecapped by Irish nationalists
>>68897456
I wouldn't want a load of jumped up graduates who think they know everything making the decision either.
>Brexitbowl
>Northern Ireland voted in
>Wales voted out
BAYOL hattrick confirmed
WE'RE ENGLAND AND WALES
WE'RE ENGLAND AND WALES
FUCK OFF IRELAND
WE'RE ENGLAND AND WALES
>>68896584
This.
The Remain side:
>Scotland
Country of elite intelligence, invented everything. World class education system, world class Universities for centuries.
>Manchester and Liverpool
Home of the world's first computer. Home of the Beatles. Cultural icons of the world.
>London
The World's capital. The financial hub of the entire planet. The most relevant city on the globe. The place where the country's elite work and live. The place where all the country's finest companies are based.
>Out
Shitty, grim places like Hull and the rest of the north of England. Full of racist farmers and scum. The working class plebs.
No coincidence.
>>68890086
Go suck Trudeau's dick you faggot cuckold
>>68897456
What you don't seem to understand is that Britain's place in the EU effects the whole country. Sure I wouldn't want Joe decided whether or not I have surgery, but that's the wrong analogy.
The correct one would be him deciding if HE should have surgery, you wouldn't want to force him to have a medical procedure against his will would you?
Another remainer another strawman. Might as well leave now laddy, there'll be no place for classist, unintelligent, work-shy losers like you in the new Britain.
>>68885946
Anyone got a nice stream to watch the game?
>>68897616
I'd rather that than Joe.
But I'd much rather experts who are PAID to decide on these matters and that's what they do for a living...
>>68897701
Guess who else voted leave, cuck
>>68897701
>Country of elite intelligence
>voted SNP into power
wew lad
>>68897701
>british """""humour"""""
>>68897456
but Joe the welder is the one who has the firsthand experience of decades and decades of UK governments encouraging mass migration and changing the demographics of this country forever without a mandate. Tell me why some thick 20 year old sociology student who gets their politics fix from buzzfeed should have as much as a say?
>>68897456
What a fucking copout strawman.
Anyway, the idea that you should be "educated" to vote is absolute bullshit and is just reflective of the ego of the absolute cunts who say it.
Alright, sou you need to be educated to vote, because the "normal man" doesn't understand economics. Fair enough. Do you? Well, not really, no. Your degree in whatever doesn't really mean you know about that. So I suppose you're not educated in the subject either.
Oh well, looks like you're out. Still, at least the guys who studied economics and global politics are still there. Then again, they don't really have EXPERIENCE in it do they? They might have read about it, but they don't have experience of putting it into practice. No, better the people employed in that to have an opinion. So, at least the bankers get an opinion.
Then again... And so on.
TL;DR: Go fuck yourself you egotistical cunt.
>>68885946
I'm going to have to cheer on NI for Steven Davis
>>68897701
>The place where the country's elite work and live
Wrong. That's the City of London. London is where all the country's scum live
>>68897799
Technocracies have failed harder than anything we see in liberal democracies.
As for Joe. How do you know he isn't a reasonable bright guy who just didn't want to walk the rigid academic path set out following school? Presuming he eve had that choice.
>>68897748
someone pls help a fellow /sp/artan out
>>68897701
>Delusion, the post.
>>68897890
>Anyway, the idea that you should be "educated" to vote
That's not even what I'm saying. I'm saying you should be an expert on these matters e.g. the Government
i.e. there should never have been a vote in the first place
>>68897100
Well yes, people are emotional about the fact their future is in jeopardy. I don't think that's hard to comprehend. Gove's "We're tired of the experts" says it all.
>>68897437
I understand it perfectly. People feel disillusioned with current power, they feel worried and upset over high immigration, and they long for the Britain of old. Many of these people are already poor, so economic arguments are like water off a ducks back. "What could be worse? Change could help." None of this is solved by leaving the EU, in fact experts have predicted it is to get worse, in particular, for the people of Wales, who will be hardest hit by cuts and loss to EU funding. Scotland have the SNP to campaign for them, Wales has the failed Labour who were terrified of addressing peoples (valid) immigration concerns.
The whole basis for their reason to vote leave was on these issues that are fundamentally NOT related to the EU. EU migrants contribute 34% more to GDP than they take. They were sold a lie by politicians who have hijacked the ever growing immigration concerns as a way into power. Legitimate faced politians were going to do it eventually (Boris and co). I'm not even saying immigration isn't a problem. It is. But it is not solved this way, and many people have taken this referendum, particularly the old - as a vote for immigrants, or a vote for the britain of old. To see the backtracking already on these promises - "we won't cut immigration, free movement, NHS" is sickening. But good job, I'm sure I'll get a few meme pictures as replies.
>>68885946
Obviously. The remainfags aren't even trying to hide the contempt for democracy. Fucking authoritarian leftists.
>>68885946
BRAY FOR WHALES!!!!
>>68897701
> Worlds first computer
That was the US
>>68889698
Shut your cuckface, Pierre
>>68898053
The government isn't expert in it either. The civil service maybe, but the people you elect are a cross section of twats with PPE degrees and connections and some normal people who lowered themselves to climb the greasy pole.
>Wales
>Uncucked
pick one
>>68898040
>>68897969
>>68897845
>>68897842
It's true though. The best places to live/work in the UK are in no particular order:
>London
>Manchester
>Scotland
>>68898074
>nearly 70% of vote leave believs that global warming isn't happening / is not important
says it all
GOD SABE OUR GRAYSHUS KWEEN
>>68894916
Get a load of this fucking lefty yurocuck. Universities are leftist indoctrination centres where you learn about safe spaces, tolerance and how being white is 'problematic' while earning a degree in womyn's studies and you think these loony retards are the only ones who should be allowed to vote? You should be deported to the continent cuck, fuck off
>mfw self proclaimed 'leftists' are upset about leaving the neoliberal technocratic global capitalist EU superstate
this is a huge chance for real leftist politics to make real progress, unburdened from the EU
but no, let's just cry and call the working class stupid
fucking champagne socialists
>>68898053
>Democracy is bad if it doesn't go my way
You leftists are the most hypocritical people on earth
>>68898053
>That's not even what I'm saying. I'm saying you should be an expert on these matters e.g. the Government
>A bunch of ex-lawyers, ex-unionists, and PPE graduates elected by the undecated masses you so decry are magically incredibly educated god-geniuses with infinite IQ's who always make benevolent perfect decision ons the behalf of the public.
Actual autism.
This is what happens when parents tell their kids their special snowflakes, I bet this lad is a "P's gets Degrees" fellow who inexplicably still manages to feel superior.
>>68898053
As with everything, you're only saying this because your side lost.
Jesus Christ this generation is the worst.
>>68898074
one day you'll grow up and learn to value and accept democracy and different opinions
Ah yes, voting along with the niggers and shitskins. Very good remaincucks
>>68898154
The Government takes advice from experts and consultants. For example, the head of the NHS, the bank of England etc. etc. etc. etc.
All of which said remain.
>All these salty cucks that no nothing about economics have suddenly become experts in the matter
Piss off back to whining on KikeBook
>I voted Leave
>>68898218
Maybe if you are a muslim or a foreigner
Or a leftycuck who likes sucking off muslims and foreigners
>>68898256
Fucking this
The true left would be wanting to leave, like Corbyn or Skinner.
>>68894916
I voted Remain, but you sound like a fucking retard mate. So far up your own arse you think nobody else deserves an opinion. It's a democracy, other people are allowed to have a say and they don't want to be the EU, accept it or just leave the country.
I for one think that regardless of the outcome the time comes to work together not start bitching about how it's 'not my vote'.
>>68898340
>The Government takes advice from experts and consultants. For example, the head of the NHS, the bank of England etc. etc. etc. etc.
Did you ever think these people might be biased in their opinions?
Learn to think at least a little critically.
>>68898218
You are retarded. Scotland has no industry to speak of and is broke.
>>68898340
And none of whom have to live in previous white working class communities that have literally been taken over by non-whites or eastern europeans who refuse to integrate. Is it any wonder the people forced out by migrants are the ones who most want to leave? Please kill yourself
>>68898340
It take opinions from those favourable to their party and interests. It ignores as much advice from experts as it takes on board.
>>68898340
The financial elites have incentive to remain, and they trick you into thinking their financial benefit to remaining is also yours.
I thought you people didn't believe in trickle-down economics
>>68898257
>leftist
I'm right of centre.
>>68891797
Oil was discovered as part of the UK, and so the rest of the UK will be entitled to it's share if Scotland leaves.
Also, when the oil runs out, Scotland is fucked.
>>68887498
Actually check the FTSE before you chat shit, you tosspot
Do you retards not question the instantaneous reaction regardless of no physical or legislative change yet?
It's just a little market panic that will normalise and seem ridiculous in a couple of weeks.
>>68897058
If the Euro bureaucrats just didn't import muzzies then everything would have been fine.
>>68894726
No, because the UK is one of the EU's net contributors. It puts in more than it gets back.
>>68898259
Nobody said they were perfect you fucking retard, they're just the best shot we have of a perfect decision.
You don't listen to an expert surgeon who says YOU CANNOT have surgery because YOU WILL 100% DIE and then come away thinking "yeah but what does he know? fucking graduate hotshot, nobody is perfect, I'm going to take my chances and have the surgery"
It's common sense you mouth-breathing spastic.
>>68897701
>scotland
>intelligence
they wear skirts and eat haggis.
>>68898534
>Also, when the oil runs out, Scotland is fucked.
Scotland is already fucked.
When labour is too expensive in Russia for them to make a profit with current oil prices how is Scotland meant to make a profit.
>>68898300
>As with everything, you're only saying this because your side lost.
No, I said this in 2014 because it was abundantly obvious back then it was the wrong call.
>>68894916
>There is a reason that only the brightest and the best go to University
Yeah, you have to be really intelligent to get a third in sociology and gender studies
>>68898218
>Manchester
>Scotland
You fucking serious? North is a shit place to work unless you are a research scientist. Most of it's industry is based around the working class bar very few jobs.
>>68898617
>equating politics and economics (sociology basically) with actual scientific matters
Maybe now Europe can go back to being a trading bloc rather than a political union that's hellbent on importing as many non-white, non-Christian migrants as possible to undermine national identity? Just an idea really
>>68891797
>muh (((economy)))
The (((economy))) of Eastern European countries was also hurt by leaving the Comecon and other communist associations.
That's the price of freedom.
>>68898617
Shitty analogy desu
Economics isnt the only consideration
>>68898432
>b-b-but they might be biased
>muh conspiracy
Yeah, and Boris and co aren't biased in anyway, are they? Nothing in it for him, is there?
lmao
>Mental gymnastics to try and find a desperate argument
Just face facts. It was objectively wrong to have the vote in the first place. It was a farce and a huge error and Britain is now going to pay for it.
>>68898617
>Nobody said they were perfect you fucking retard, they're just the best shot we have of a perfect decision.
>We should trust people who's self interest tells them to vote remain to give us an unbiased result.
Come on mate, now you're embarrassing yourself.
>>68898617
>You don't listen to an expert surgeon who says YOU CANNOT have surgery because YOU WILL 100% DIE and then come away thinking "yeah but what does he know? fucking graduate hotshot, nobody is perfect, I'm going to take my chances and have the surgery"
Irrelevant to what I was saying, it's immoral to force someone to have surgery which is what you were implying.
>>68898617
>It's common sense you mouth-breathing spastic.
Nothing but ad-homs from the #remaintrain , why don't you suck MORE german cock.
>>68898763
>ignoring planned economies don't work with inflation
>>68898218
This literally isn't true at all. London is an utter shithole outside of central London and the white commuter boroughs in the SW, NW and NE
>>68898386
>fedoras voted to leave
They voted remain.
>>68898617
>It's common sense you mouth-breathing spastic.
Common sense according to you:
>You're stupid
>The opinions of people "smarter" than you are 100% always right
>You must listen to authority because they are always right and you are wrong
>The rich and powerful have no reason to lie to you
>You're an idiot
>>68898458
>IMMIGRANTS ARE TAKING OVER!!
>DEY TUK AR JURBS!!!
Wow it's like a parody. Please tell me you're just trolling and aren't serious?
>>68898318
Tyranny of the majority is a real thing. Luckily, our founding fathers instituted it into our constitution at a time when people weren't whiny bitches.
>>68898053
And this is how democracy dies, why are we allowed an opinion at all on anything? We should just let everyone else decide everything and live like sheep.
Leaving has good points as well, but you are such a fear-mongering little shit.
>>68894916
Things the "brightest and the best" were wrong about during the 20th century.
>Stalinism
>Maoism
>modernist urban planning
>Freudian psychoanalysis
I'd say they are a bunch of stupid self-serving idiots who think their degrees in women's studies give them the ability to decide what is best for everyone, Soviet commissar-style.
>>68898747
>back to being a trading bloc
It never was just that. I am sorry.
>>68898793
>Yeah, and Boris and co aren't biased in anyway, are they? Nothing in it for him, is there?
I never said that, of course they are, but they are useful idiots for the purposes of freedom and democracy.
>Just face facts. It was objectively wrong to have the vote in the first place. It was a farce and a huge error and Britain is now going to pay for it.
How can you say it was objectively wrong when so far there have been no real negatives? The FTSE has bounced back, the supposed 'black friday' never happened. You're wrong mate, time to get over it.
>>68894916
>There is a reason that only the brightest and the best go to University
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2016/05/16/lord-patten-university-quotas-will-hit-standards/
>>68898534
Uh... take it you missed the 2014 debates? The north sea belongs to Scotland. The UK has a tiny fraction of the oil that they will be able to claim as theirs.
But as others have said, Oil is done for the foreseeable future anyway.
>>68893718
>having different views means you should leave the country
>>68898941
Best post in thread. #rekt
>>68899000
>Digits confirm that you should indeed leave.
Bye bye, I'm sure Juncker will let you play with his dick if you ask real nice.
>EU can finally discuss measures without constant British bitching and moaning and interfering every step of the way
>Brits in their eternal arrogance think that their departure from EU is some catastrophic event for the rest of us even when they were always one of the countries least willing to contribute to the EU in the first place
As much as people hate to admit it, when you're part of any sort of collective there are times when you must compromise between your interests and the interests of the collective, and the UK has never seen the EU as anything more than something they can manipulate for their own interests, as soon as they stopped benefiting as much as they wanted to from EU measure they fuck off, well good fucking riddance
>>68898688
More intelligent than you certainly. It's all relative.
>>68898903
>NO NO LE POOR MIGRANTS BEING LE PICKED ON BY LE BIGOTED XENOPHOBIC RIGHT WING LITTLE INGLINDURS
>How fucking dare those xenophobic scumbags expect migrant populations to integrate and at the very least learn the language?
desu I don't really mind Eastern European migrants. They're white and Christian, and will often move back home within a decade.
An economy that will struggle for some years is a price worth paying for sovereignty and control of your own country.
Britain will suffer in the short term but will be better off in the long term.
The EU is a failed experiment that thankfully will soon be dead.
>>68899000
>not being able to accept a democratic vote means that it should be overruled as your opinion is more important than 17.4 million others
sure thing senpai, if you don't like the result and can't accept it just leave.
>>68899077
This.
>>68898966
Yes it was
>>68898903
>Mass immigration isn't out of control in this country and across Europe
Please tell me you're just trolling and aren't serious?
>>68898856
Planned economies don't work. And the European Union was a huge planned economy in the making. Don't get me wrong, that's not what Schuman, Adenauer and Gasperi wanted, but that's what it became in the hand of unelected bureaucrats, these people will always try to take more power to themselves and so the European Union as on it's way to become the USSR 2.0.
It's fitting that the liberty-loving Englishmen put a end to this farce. Kipling would be proud, the Saxon awoke and cast down the new king.
>>68899056
>More intelligent than you certainly. It's all relative.
>Presuming to know what everyone else does for a living.
I'm loving your salty tears, they taste like victory.
>>68889698
bakkes toe vulie kankeraap.
>>68898241
I can't tell if you're being serious anymore.
>>68897044
>Now the second referendum will happen and the retards that voted no last time will all vote yes this time.
you must be retarded if you think there'll be a second referendum
>>68898971
>No negatives
Holy shit.
>>68891797
There's at least 10 for starters.
I challenge you to find one benefit of leaving that isn't a vague attempt at describing ""freedom"" or taking back ""control"" of which we now have none.
>>68898747
>replace poles with pakis
>more white
You dun goofed m8
loving this brexit thing for pissing off krauts, eurocrats, shitskins and all the self proclaimed intelligentia in this shithole. first time ive ever liked brits
>Wales
>naming your country after marine life
>>68897044
>Now the second referendum will happen and the retards that voted no last time will all vote yes this time.
He's gone through Denial and Anger lads, this is the delusional Bargaining, if we're lucky he might kill himself when he gets to Depression.
>>68899149
It annoys people like you. That's a benefit ;)
>>68898939
>everyone else
This is your mistake. "everyone else" and "them" are actually "us" and "we".
We elected them. They are our guys. The problem is when they say "fuck it, we're not going to do our job and decide, we're going to leave it up to you"
>>68899149
>Holy shit.
I can only assume that 'Holy shit' is you realising your mistake? I mean, you couldn't come up with any negatives so clearly I'm right.
Unless, let me guess:
>muh holidays
You're honestly stupid if you think trade deals will be effected by this.
>>68899099
It was political from its inception.
The coal & steel union was formed to prevent a war.
I can't understand how no one ever bothered to inform the british pulic desu.
No wonder they are angry.
>>68889902
Yes they will, but the bright side is they will only play one match desu
>>68899202
>Naming your country after states that (((((united))))) (gay)
>>68899117
>what you do for a living defines your intelligence
Nope.
>tears
I'm the one sitting here ripping you apart and laughing at you. I'm having a blast.
>>68899149
control over migration
the ability to conduct our own trade deals
the ability to now create every law and not be subject to one size fits all regulations from a commission that is supposedly meant to aggregate the interests of 350 million people
there you go mate
>>68899149
>I challenge you to find one benefit of leaving that isn't a vague attempt at describing ""freedom"" or taking back ""control"" of which we now have none.
A chance to finally embrace free trade and get away from regressive EU protectionist policies. SEA nations have already shown their willingness to sign quick trade agreements as has the US.
Check-mate.
>>68899146
You must have missed the news today, retard.
>>68898256
I'm surprised about that too. I'm old enough to remember that 15-to-20 years ago there was a huge anti-globalization left, who used to protest at G8 meetings and hated NAFTA, hated the EU and hated globalism. They supported nationalist politicians in the Third World and loved how Hugo Chávez used direct democracy to oust the old Venezuelan oligarchy from power.
Now the Western left is all pro-globalization and hates direct democracy. All it took them to change opinion was the elites convincing them that being anti-globalization was racist.
Really, anti-racism was the best tool the elites invented. Can you imagine if the leaders of the Eastern Bloc had the same foresight? The Solidarity trade union is protesting against communist policies in Poland? They are just racist old white people, ignore them. Communism would still exist and still be praised by the same intellectuals who opposed Brexit.
>>68899282
>I can only assume that 'Holy shit' is you realising your mistake?
No, it's an expression of how gobsmacked I am at your lack of intelligence. Like "Holy fuck, nobody can be THIS retarded, can they?"
Yet to name one b.t.w. Keep trying.
>>68899308
It was a trade union designed to make the constituent nations interdependent and therefore lose more if it was a war
it was an economic union to further peace
>krautcuck
nice /pol/ threrad you got there
>>68899329
>Nope.
But what you study at uni is? Classic
>I'm the one sitting here ripping you apart and laughing at you. I'm having a blast.
>mfw
You aren't fooling anyone
>>68899050
We were one of the biggest financial contributors to the EU and got fuck all back. Now we will contribute nothing and get fuck all back. Better deal desu
>>68899344
>that isn't a vague attempt at describing ""freedom"" or taking back ""control""
>first word
>control
Dismissed. Britain will want to work in the single market, that requires freedom of movement. You will have NO control over that. And you will have NO say on it either, as you are no longer at the table for these negotiations.
Try again.
>>68899417
>Yet to name one b.t.w. Keep trying.
Yes i did m8o
>>68899370
You're the one who's yet to name a single negative.
>>68899487
Why is it vague? We can now entirely determine who can come into the country
>Dismissed. Britain will want to work in the single market, that requires freedom of movement.
Will it? What have switzerland just done?
>>68899149
>I challenge you to find one benefit of leaving
Leftycucks get BTFO
>>68899481
>and got fuck all back
We got more back than we put in. Jesus how can you still be so misinformed at this stage?
Did you watch a single live-debate?
Did you just see the bus with the banner on it and make up your mind?
I'm genuinely worried about the future of this country with people like you living in it.
>>68887478
>empire
lol
>>68899175
That is what you are doing, not us
>skilled workers voted for Brexit
>people who can fix your plumbing
>people who can repair your car
>people who can solve problems with home electricity
>people who actually build things
>educated university students voted for remain
>people who know about Foucaultian discourse analysis
>people who learned the art of ethnic basketweaving
>people who campaign for feminism at Game of Thrones
Welp
>>68897490
this is all it boils down to
>>68899626
>We got more back than we put in.
This just isn't true.
Give us the sourced stats if you're so certain.
>Pro-tip: There aren't any
>>68899626
>We got more back than we put in.
No we didn't. Please provide a source. What we DID get back of that 350m contribution we couldn't spend where we wanted
>>68899581
>switzerland
Must allow free movement of people through their borders. They do NOT control their own borders. And despite this, they have NO say in it. They can't bring it up at an EU meeting as they aren't in it. Same will apply to Britain.
>>68899481
You lost about as much money yesterday alone than you spent on contributions to the EU.
>>68899647
You just cut yourself off from EU country immigration. Guess who's left?
Surely you don't want you son to clean toilets.
>>68899329
>I voted remain and lost, now I'm having a blast crying about it on the internet
>>68891797
>Scotland (Ironically London was the only region to vote leave, and London is also where 80% of Conservative voters live)
Stopped reading there, 80%? Are you actually a fucking retard?
>>68899732
>You lost about as much money yesterday alone than you spent on contributions to the EU.
and then gained it all back, haven't you been following the stocks? The FTSE bounced back, I made a killing.
>>68899234
We don't elect them to run a totalitarian state, big decisions which affect the long term future of the country can't be decided just by Politicians, and they also get a vote to remember.
Plus if you remember a part of voting in conservatives was to have a EU referendum vote.
>>68899694
>muh 350m a week
Today alone, Britain lost 350 BILLION, just because of the news of the exit. Not even the actual exit. I'll let you work out how many years of contributions that equates to.
You are embarrassingly ill-informed.
>>68899663
>being this much on an le old fashioned working man worshipper
Biggest meme in the world right now desu
>>68899787
>>68899787
>Today alone, Britain lost 350 BILLION, just because of the news of the exit.
Once again just a plain lie
>pic related
FTSE bounced back to where it was a week ago. Another remainer on suicidewatch
>>68899782
>I made a killing
You sat in your basement as your mum suggested you go outside, at which point you threw your hot-pocket at the wall in a rage.
>>68899834
inb4 much dead cat bounce meme
>>68899782
They made about half of it back and still closed out on a negative.
>>68899732
The markets quickly rebounded within the same day. Did you just stop following the stocks an hour after the vote?
>>68899834
>muh FTSE
drop in the ocean
you didn't even post the FTSE 200 which is just as bad, but still not the big picture...
>>68899787
>Britain lost 350 BILLION
No it didn't
>believing the stock market is anything but a zero sum game
>>68899857
Look again pasta
>>68899834
>>68899663
our 'skilled' workers are imported from the eu m8
our university educated scientists, bankers, lawyers, engineers voted remain
>>68899870
The FTSE is not the 350 billion m8...
I don't have time for an economics lesson, but the money lost yesterday has little to do with the markets.
>>68899838
Another cuck mad he's too poor to into stock trading.
Feels good having 15k in savings.
>>68899741
We already have tonnes of poles here to clean the toilets, we don't need any more, that's the point
Also, any EU national can still come and work here providing they pass the points-based immigration system
>>68899870
>>68899894
>implying that won't be a dead cat bounce
Even then that's just the FTSE 100, take a look at the FTSE 250, the bounceback was much worse.
>>68899787
>Today alone, Britain lost 350 BILLION, just because of the news of the exit.
Bald faced lie
>>68899787
But we didn't you spas.
FTSE is stronger than the EU markets which are plummeting, the £ is recovering. This was all down to retards panicking as if a vote to leave meant we left the next day and started pulling money out because they don't understand shit.
If anything the EU suffered more than the British markets
>>68899919
>The FTSE is not the 350 billion m8...
Every source online using the 350 billion number is referencing the FTSE. Where else do you think we magically lost that money from? Invisible investors? GDP magically dissapearing? Come on.
>>68899897
>our 'skilled' workers are imported from the eu m8
ok, good thing they're already here and won't be deported then...
>>68899897
This.
Leave
>Uneducated scum
>NEETs
>People on the dole
>Criminals and scum who torture animals for fun
>Racists
>UKIP and BNP members
>Average IQ below 80
>Sun readers
>Working class plebs
Remain
>University Graduates
>Doctors
>Lawyers
>CEOs
>Engineers
>The Government including the vast majority of MPs (the ones that didn't had career agendas)
>The head of the NHS
>EVERY financial and economic expert
>The wisest, hardest working, most intelligent elite the country has to offer
>>68899947
>Even then that's just the FTSE 100, take a look at the FTSE 250, the bounceback was much worse.
Because the rally a few weeks ago didn't happen either right guys?
>>68900091
>(the ones that didn't had career agendas)
none of those exist
>>68899921
I earn 100k a year, I don't need to invest money or lie to strangers on the internet.
>>68899897
I'm not surprising about bankers, lawyers and scientists, those are parasites, but you have any actual stat on engineers?
They don't tend to be left-wing idiots.
>>68900091
What a crock of shit. You have no idea how people voted
>This one retarded Aussie that doesn't understand how the stock market works
Should just go back to being a giant prison island t.b.h.
>>68900091
>Average IQ below 80
But the demographic most likely to vote in was niggers. The second demographic was Muslims. see >>68898329
The generation most likely to vote out has lived in a period both under and without European governance. The second demographic most likely to vote out is the one that has had to deal firsthand with the consequences of mass migration
What does that tell you?
>>68900091
leave - the proletariat
remain - bourgeois scum
your time is coming to an end capitalist dog
>>68900130
Why would I lie? I'm laughing to the bank.
also, if you actually earn 100k a year, which i don't why aren't you trading and making 130k a year?
Because you're not as intelligent as you think you are, that's why.
>>68900080
not for the next 2 years sure but they might have to get a visa after that and could have difficulty
eu migration has been pretty good, who has actually had a negative experience with eu migration? why do people care about stopping hard working poles coming to the uk?
>>68900132
a vote for remaining in the eu was not a left wing vote you retard, it was a vote for economic competence
traditionalist right wing types(who often arent that fond of modern capitalism) and labour's core working class vote joined together to pull out, while professionals voted in
but they have basically been duped, we will not get meaningful reform to eu migration
>>68900150
There is a lot of data from polls available m8.
One in particular which surveyed over 16k people makes for interesting reading..
The fact of the matter is there are more idiots than intelligent people in this country. Therefore when you get a high voter turnout like we did in this vote, the retards win.
That's how it panned out. Now we all have to suffer for it.
>All these mad sociology studying remain voters
LMFAO
>>68900091
See >>68898941
Read about the 20th century. Malcolm Muggeridge's "Chronicles of Wasted Time" is a good start.
The entire "enlightened" elite of Great Britain in the 1930s supported the Soviet Union. Sydney and Beatrice Webb were not the exception, they were the rule. In the 1960s, in France, all the intellectuals and professors loved Maoism.
These people are evil. They don't constantly desire the establishment of bureaucratic superstates because this is in the best interest of people and that's the smart position. They do so because they have an interest in being hired as bureaucrats, in becoming the nomenklatura of the new regime.
>The explosive component in the contemporary scene is not the clamor of the masses but the self-righteous claims of a multitude of graduates from schools and universities. This army of scribes is clamoring for a society in which planning, regulation, and supervision are paramount and the prerogative of the educated.
Eric Hoffer, The Ordeal of Change
>>68900253
>remainers were millenials, muslims, and niggers
Doesn't sound like a great crowd to go with m8o.
>>68900197
>Thinks race has a role in crystalised intelligence
Sorry lad, but you're one of the ones with an IQ of around 80 or below. You're one of the ones I'm describing.
>>68900223
This. Fuck enlightened despotism
>>68900245
>poles
but now it is the VERY poor countries in Europe who are allowed to come here, i.e. the post-Soviet states who are 50 years behind us economically. In 20 years it will be Turkey. Before that, it will be the Balkan states with large muslim populations. I don't mind Poles, they are white Christians and work hard. They aren't the issue
>Lose your place as the 5th biggest economy in the World to likes of California and France
>Limit your influence in Europe greatly
>Banking is UKs only forte and without being in the EU, banks will relocate to EU countries
>UK has nothing other than banking, will shrink greatly as an economy
>Will have to stick with EU regulations and laws in order to not even worsen the trade
>Gibraltar will turn 3rd world tier as they rely on EU for trade.
>Pissed off Scotland enough to try to become independent again
>Pissed off N. Ireland enough to try to unite with Ireland
Congratulations, you inbred fucks voted yourselves in to the 3rd world and likely into becoming the cucks of US, United Kingdom might now also fall apart because your economy is going to fall apart.
>>68900235
>why aren't you trading and making 130k a year?
Because I don't need it?
It's a waste of my time?
I already have everything I could possibly want?
I don't want the hassle?
>>68900352
mad roach detected
>>68900265
Looking forward to the reply to this.
>>68900321
so you voted on some potential bs that might happen?
how about you vote on what is actually tangible? or do you think croatia joining soon is going to fuck things up?
turkey is going backwards and further away from joining the eu, but we had a veto on their potential membership anyway so it wasnt an issue
>>68900358
>Because I don't need it?
>It's a waste of my time?
>I already have everything I could possibly want?
>I don't want the hassle?
No it's because you're a basement-dwelling loser lying about his income.
Money breeds money, no-one is ever satisfied, it's human nature.
>>68900352
You can have our seat
>>68900292
umm, g loaded IQ tests tend to produce the LARGEST differences between whites and blacks.
https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf
>You're one of the ones I'm describing
I'm not, and the lowest IQ demographic (i.e. blacks) was the MOST likely to vote remain
>>68900352
I'll be able to buy a house though, because they will be practically worthless in 10 years time!
>>68900358
>not setting up passive income streams
>relying on the state to fund your retirement
>>68900245
>(((economic competence)))
This isn't the 1990s anymore. Now the defense of multicultural globalist capitalism is the position of the left, and resistance to it belongs to the right.
>>68900422
Croatia has already joined pal. Keep up.
>>68900452
Don't bother, he's too cucked to see the truth. Evidence is never enough for these people.
>>68900425
>Money breeds money, no-one is ever satisfied, it's human nature.
Spoken like a true poorfag.
I give 30% of my salary away to charity/family every year. Makes no difference to me or my lifestyle. That must be hard for you to understand.
>/sp/ - Brexit
>>68900452
There is no significant differences between race and intelligence. Please educate yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
>>68888328
>a fucking leek
>>68900480
where does someone like bernie sanders fit into this with his calls for protectionism?
fucking lol at using ((()))
>>68900503
by croatia joining i mean croatians gaining the ability to move here under free movement rules which wouldve been 2018 i think
>>68900520
>I give 30% of my salary away to charity/family every year.
Spoken like a true cuck, once again I seriously doubt you're telling the truth but if you are, why? You're literally throwing your money away to people who can't help themselves.
Have fun with your online fantasies but do try to make sure your delusions don't spill over into real life.
>>68900435
desu, I just want this place to enter the EU so if we have another dictator, they couldn't restrict free speech, press freedoms or water blast protesters.
>>68900564
I looked through your post and found this:
>Rushton & Jensen (2005) wrote that, in the United States, self-identified blacks and whites have been the subjects of the greatest number of studies. They stated that the black-white IQ difference is about 15 to 18 points or 1 to 1.1 standard deviations (SDs), which implies that between 11 and 16 percent of the black population have an IQ above 100 (the general population median). According to Arthur Jensen and J. Philippe Rushton the black-white IQ difference is largest on those components of IQ tests that are claimed best to represent the general intelligence factor g.[46] The 1996 APA report "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns" and the 1994 editorial statement "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" gave more or less similar estimates.[47][48] Roth et al. (2001), in a review of the results of a total of 6,246,729 participants on other tests of cognitive ability or aptitude, found a difference in mean IQ scores between blacks and whites of 1.1 SD. Consistent results were found for college and university application tests such as the Scholastic Aptitude Test (N = 2.4 million) and Graduate Record Examination (N = 2.3 million), as well as for tests of job applicants in corporate sections (N = 0.5 million) and in the military (N = 0.4 million).[49]
Even wikipedia agrees with us. Good work not reading what you post.
>>68900564
I have literally just linked you to a meta-analysis of 30 years of data you utter retard
>be a retarded autist
>browse pol
> take meming to far and actually fucking vote leave
>>68900670
Note that 1.1 standard deviations is VERY significant, that's like 5-10 IQ points
Daily reminder that if you didn't go to University you are a sub-human pleb and should never be allowed a vote or an opinion on anything.
>>68900091
These are some delicious lefty tears
>>68893718
>his money isn't worth shit now
>>68900698
are you saying people over 40 are most likely to browse /pol/?
desu /pol/'s infographs have 10 times the credibility as the mouthbreathing left wing students who get their information from buzzfeed or twitter
>>68900732
>Daily reminder that if you didn't go to University you are a sub-human pleb and should never be allowed a vote or an opinion on anything.
>I went to uni, studied a high skill degree, did post-grad and still voted leave
What now lefty?
>>68893655
S-shut up
My favourite is when white supremicists ignore the fact that...
>ethnic Jews have higher IQ'S than whites
>trans and gays people have higher IQ than straight people
>Maori are more physically fit than whites , with the same IQ as whites.
Jews>>>>>pol
>>68900670
>>68900681
I can assure you there is no significant difference between black and white people in terms of IQ. I literally wrote a book on this for University.
I am the one of the world's leading authorities on intelligence testing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
It's all there. More or less. Any difference in studies have been accounted for with cultural differences/biases. Twin studies demonstrate this nicely.
>>68900764
>desu /pol/'s infographs have 10 times the credibility as the mouthbreathing left wing students who get their information from buzzfeed or twitter
woah lad let's not go too far
>>68900245
>a vote for remaining in the eu was not a left wing vote
>he says this while crying about 'racists', UKIP and 'sun readers'
>>68900652
Hungary is part of the EU, u kno
>>68900735
Eh? I'm right wing. I'm all for capitalism and keeping traditional values. I'm also greedy. Which is why I don't want to leave the EU because it will fuck our country.
Sorry but hating "Mussies" isn't a requirement for being right wing. It's just a symptom of being mentally ill. I don't give a shit about race or religion or ""culture"".
>>68900814
I never have anyone writing about HBD deny that (Ashkenazi-) Jews have higher IQs than whites. So do East Asians. That's not a controversial opinion.
>>68900814
So you've gone from claiming there is no difference between race and intelligence, to now claiming there is a difference? Do you admit then that the demographic most likely to vote remain was also the most retarded?
>ethnic Jews have higher IQ'S than whites
They were also MOST likely to vote leave
>trans and gays people have higher IQ than straight people
>Maori are more physically fit than whites , with the same IQ as whites
Sources please
LOVE remain tears
>>68900352
>Wants to join EU for dem gibs and so he can move to Britain for ficki ficki
>Realises he isn't going to get either
>Pastes memes he seen on a cuck's twitter feed like any of it makes any difference
It's like another Constantinpole.
>>68900782
What does voting leave/remain have to do with anything? And why are you calling me a lefty?
>>68900815
>I am the one of the world's leading authorities on intelligence testing.
You can't make a claim like this online without giving proof, we have no reason to believe you, especially when the Wiki article you're linking contradicts you more than it agrees with you.
Stop lying, Brexit happened, you guys lost, get over it and fight for the future instead of being a cynical complaining cuck.
Also, i kind of hope you are telling the truth because then we've been right about the shit-tier, anyone with a brain stem admittance sociology degree the whole time. Classic.
>>68900815
You're a bad troll and you should feel bad, back to /pol/
>>68900815
>I am a world expert. Have a wiki link
>>68900920
>They were also MOST likely to vote leave
Wrong, Jews were more likely to vote REMAIN than whites were.
Try again.
Also
>Thinking that IQ differs between religions
>Thinking that Jew is a race
>Thinking IQ differs between races
Kill yourself for being stupid t.b.g. familia
>>68900815
Must be a troll
>>68900920
>They were also MOST likely to vote leave
Source?
>Remainians are still 110% buttblasted
And here I was thinking it would have died down a bit by now.
Wew lads.
>>68900844
havent said anything about racists, sun readers or ukip
people stuck two fingers up to the political class, good for them, but they're going to be poorer for it
the eu is not some bastion of leftism, it's a technocratic organisation of a relatively centrist bent thats main purpose is facilitating business
we'll now get in leaders who won't do what most people who voted out want i.e. the likes of gove and johnson dont really give a toss about getting migration down
>>68900932
No one wants to move to your disgusting rainy island while I get to go to half of a beautiful sunny island that we are occupying.
What's with this English delusion that they are the best?
>>68900844
>Tory MPs, literal lords and billionaires, the entire capitalist establishment etc all support remain
>Fringe lefty/communist parties all over the country support leave
hmmm
>>68900939
>You can't
I can, and I did. Now suck on my sweaty balls.
>sociology
I studied medicine and psychology. I was paid £25k a year to write my PhD. And pro-tip: most sociology majors are infinitely cleverer than you
>>68900988
No they weren't you limp wristed lying cuckold.
>>68900996
see >>68898329
Second after Christians, but the point still stands. The most intelligent demographic according to this sperglord was the one second most likely to leave. The thickest race was the one most likely to remain. Says it all really
>>68899116
>liberty-loving Englishmen
you're retarded honestly
>>68900988
Jews are basically a race though since you cannot convert to Judaism. You have to marry or be born into it.
>>68900844
Voting remain is a right-wing choice.
It's left-wing faggots that are voting leave.
>Irrational hatred of someone because of their skin colour
>Not a mental illness
lmao fucking idiot
>>68901125
You can convert, they just make it pretty hard.
>>68901130
>irrational
no, statistical discrimination is rational and logical
>>68901130
>It's left-wing faggots that are voting leave.
i mean, it's traditionalist right wingers and traditional working classes(who often have conservative beliefs on migration, race etc similar to traditionalists), it's not like rural england is full of lefties but it voted solidly out
the centre-left to centre-right voted remain
>>68901039
>buttblasted
nah, just a bit gutted that our country is going to turn into some third world shit-hole in our lifetimes
just as the recession was ending and things were looking good again.... oh well, will probably move anyway so no big deal
>>68900895
The concept of "right-wing" and "left-wing" is not immutable, but changeable according to the context and circumstances. In British politics, for example, the Whigs used to defend descentralization of political power, while the Tories used to defend centralization, that in the 18th century. In the 20th century, the heirs to the Whigs, the liberals (and later Labour) defended centralization, and the Tories defended descentralization.
What we see now is another paradigm shift. Until the last years, "right-wing" truly meant defense of capitalism while leftists were opposed to it. But the cultural hegemony exercised by communists over the universities (pic related) led to the interesting phenomenom that most "capitalists" nowaday are culturally leftists, and they advance left-wing policies.
So nowadays leftism is the defense of global capitalism with cultural left-wing policies, with centralization of political power in a few transnational institutions like the UN and the EU to enforce the new rules.
Now, I do believe that the capitalists are being duped, like Lenin said, they are giving to the communists the rope that will be used to hang them. These superstates will import millions of shitskins who will vote for left-wing populism later on. First you have your capitalist EU, which is nice, then you get swamped by Black migrants who will vote a Mugabe into power in Europe, which is not so nice. I do believe this is the end project of this socialist love-affair with global capitalism, as evidenced by the literature of Ernesto Laclau, Saul Alinsky and Herbert Marcuse.
>>68901075
>I can, and I did. Now suck on my sweaty balls.
If you really are a psych grad I assume you don't have any
>medicine
A couple of med bio courses don't count lad
>psychology
Only the tiniest bit better than sociology, still ROTE bullshit.
>I was paid £25k a year to write my PhD
Show it to us
>most sociology majors are infinitely cleverer than you
Yes I'm sure the mongrels who do sociology course are on par IQ wise with me when I went through uni getting straight HD's in Pure math and Physics.
Come on m8. I'm in postgrad now by the way, astrophysics.
>I'm learning about the nature of the universe while sociology students like you are trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Feels great.
>>68901217
Being left-wing is better than being right-wing.
Obviously the ideal position is somewhere in the middle.
>>68901264
>I'm in postgrad now by the way
You're a fucking retard, that's what you are. You've shown yourself up royally in this thread.
>inb4 there are two Australian flags
>>68900895
>Sorry but hating "Mussies" isn't a requirement for being right wing. It's just a symptom of being mentally ill. I don't give a shit about race or religion or ""culture"".
Spoken like a true leftycuck
>>68901069
Lefty Labour, lefty SNP, lefty London all voted remain. Buttblasted lefties on social media crying about 'racism' and 'xenophobia' because leave won
hmmmmm
>>68901226
>30% of all under 18s are non-white
>Britain will be majority non-white in your lifetime
>Islam is the fastest growing religion in the country
Britain has been on a path to self destruction ever since limp liberal cunts like you gave your tacit consent to Labour and Conservative governments plan to change the racial composition of this country forever
>>68900895
How can you be for traditional values and not care about culture. Even with the scare quotes I don't know what you're implying. That culture doesn't exist? Or that it doesn't have any effect on values. I'm like you for the most part. For regulated capitalism, democratic principles and traditional values. Against any racism and bigotry. That means subjecting all races and cultures to the same values.
>>68901267
>Being left-wing is better than being right-wing.
No
>>>/r/eddit is that way
>>68901264
Psychology >>> Astrophysics
It's a more diverse and complicated subject field. Far more complex and less understood. Also more relevant to understanding how things work and has more implications in daily life.
>>68900895
You may not hate "Mussies", but "Mussies" hate you.
Pic related, Rotherham voted 68% to leave. Can you blame them?
>>68901244
i dont see the need for this redefinition, what youre describing easily fits into 'liberalism', while leaving room for leftism of a different stripe under that definition and right wingers
it avoids classifying people as left wing who would have an aneurysm at being called it, such as dan hannan - whom while they voted and campaigned out is very much a globalist capitalist libertarian socially
>>68901344
>You're a fucking retard, that's what you are.
mad again.
I'm definitely not the only one of my brethren here tonight, probably the only dual national who actually got to vote though.
>>68901349
>Lefty Labour, lefty SNP, lefty London all voted remain. Buttblasted lefties on social media crying about 'racism' and 'xenophobia' because leave won
champagne socialists 2bh
retards obsessed with idpol have hijacked the left here
>>68901130
>Irrational hatred of someone because of their skin colour
>implying that played a part in the Leave vote at all
>crying 'leaving the EU is RAYCISS' like a true buttblasted lefty
lmao fucking idiot
>>68901130
>Voting remain is the right wing choice.
It wasn't nearly as simple as that mate. It wasn't just a left-right type gap.
Besides, considering that the youths and minorities were the ones mostly voting remain and that they are mostly lefties I think it paints a picture.
Plus /pol is massively Exit and that's mostly a right wing board.
>>68901407
voting to leave the eu has literally nothing to do with muslims, it wont affect the amount of muslims(particularly of pakistani descent) here whatsoever
complete side issue to this
>>68900742
Still worth more than yours tubby.
>>68901407
What do Pakis have to do with the EU?
>>68901394
There's culture and then there's """culture"""
I'd much rather have peaceful, hardworking Muslims than scumbag, racist, benefit-leaching white British. No contest.
>>68901473
>/pol/
Not even worth mentioning. Anyone who takes anything posted there seriously needs to have a long, hard think to themselves.
>>68901416
>is very much a globalist capitalist libertarian socially
Then he is a leftist, no matter how much he hates it.
Liberalism is leftism, after all. It flirted with the right for a while in Europe and Latin America during the 80s and 90s, but liberal intellectuals have taken care of purging all conservative and anti-communist elements of their discourse. Modern liberalism is nothing more than the auxiliary line of socialism. It's appeal is claiming to manage better, with more (((economic competence))), the economic affairs of the new socialist superstates. It's basically the appeal of Gorbachov.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Verhofstadt
>He is a member of Liberales, an independent think tank within the liberal movement. Its members consider liberalism as a progressive movement supporting individual freedom, justice and human rights. Liberales reacts against what it calls "narrow minded conservatism" related to social economic, ecological and ethical issues supported by "compartmentalized" parties and structures.
>His thought is believed to have influenced the VLD in its shift from the center-right to the center-left in the late 1990s and early 2000s (decade) (mostly under the leadership of his brother Guy).
This shift will keep happening as the right-wing masses become more nationalist and populist.
>>68898901
You are one of the non-cucked leafs I've seen, cheers.
>>68901406
>Psychology >>> Astrophysics
>It's a more diverse and complicated subject field.
>Far more complex and less understood.
Spoken like someone who has no idea what they're talking about.
I'm sure it's hard to understand without some reasonable knowledge of mathematics but Astrophysics is an incredibly complex field where new mathematical techniques have to be created to solve problems.
> Also more relevant to understanding how things work
Right because the laws of nature don't literally determine everything you do and have every done. Psychology is just an applied study of these laws when you come down to it, you will always have the less 'deep' understanding
>and has more implications in daily life.
I would agree with this if Psychologists could ever get things right. What's the rate of reproduction with Psych studies again? Like 20%? Laughable
>>68901267
>Being left-wing is better than being right-wing
>>68901620
>b-but muh cucks
>>68901542
Would you rather have a peaceful, hardworking Christian neighbour or a peaceful, hardworking Muslim neighbour? If you genuinely are ambivalent you have no interest in traditional values or preserving the culture of your people.
>>68901620
>pol is just satire
Don't fall for that meme.
I'm not taking /pol/ seriously, just painting the picture that a mostly right wing environment was fiercely pro-exit.
Places like The UK subreddits were fiercely pro-remain, a mostly left wing site and environment.
Obviously there are exceptions, but I'm confident that Remain was the majority choice for the left and leave was the majority for the right.
>>68901649
>This complete and utter bullshit
Stringing together a series of unconventionally used words doesn't make it intelligent or even eligible m8
>>68901486
Do you understand politics at all? When such issues at put into discussion, they not only keep to themselves politically, but shift the Overton Window. The "slippery slope" is not a fallacy, but a reality.
Leftists understand that. They know that you can turn a small political victory (see gay marriage, for example) into a landslide by putting all in and doubling down (arresting Christians for opposing gay marriage).
Brexit is only the beginning, the new coalition that has been formed between traditionalist right and the working class can (and must) keep fighting to get all it's political demands.
>>68901649
there are true things in what you say, but it is lacking in nuance - a distinction needs to be made between left-wing anti-globalists and liberals(then the centre-left and centre-right in that) and then the right wing traditionalist/anti-globalist
the way you put left vs right, is useful in some sense but is better put as globalist vs anti-globalist and not conflating disparate groups who come from wildly different intellectual starting positions
>>68901673
>I would agree with this if Psychologists could ever get things right. What's the rate of reproduction with Psych studies again? Like 20%? Laughable
The fact it's so difficult to reproduce just proves it's a more complex and difficult science to engage with.
If it were 100% it would be easy.
>>68901449
>retards obsessed with idpol have hijacked the left here
Very true, it's exactly why the left is dead to me. I do have some moderately lefty ideals but all the modern left cares about now is how RAYCISS all white people are and who can be the most offended. Fuck them
>>68901772
I would rather the former because it's what I'm more used to.
I wouldn't lift a finger to stop the latter happening though, I wouldn't think on it for even a second. I think that anyone who does has some serious, deep-rooted issues. Perhaps even need to go and see a doctor.
>>68899325
WEW LAD
he's just having a giggle mate.
>Ecuador
>Literally means Equator
I hate my heritage
>>68901819
>left-wing anti-globalists
Do they even exist still? George Galloway couldn't even keep his seat at Parliament. He lost to some globalist Muslima, nothing better symbolizes the changes in the British left than this.
He should join UKIP.
>>68901775
/pol/ is just a mix of trolls who are posting ironically and mentally retarded morons who think that they are being serious
it's not reflective of any population and it doesn't tell us anything about anything ever
>>68901870
>The fact it's so difficult to reproduce just proves it's a more complex and difficult science to engage with.
No it proves that the studies are always fundamentally flawed and will never be truly reproducible as they rely on subjective, interpreted results. Psychology is only called a science because it follows the scientific method when performing experiments, in reality it's more a vague, albeit educated, interpretation of half-truths.
The day psychology becomes truly legitimate and a useful tool is the day it breaks down thoughts into truly measurable units. Unfortunately for Psych grads that type of breakthrough is far more likely to be made by Biotech pioneers.
>>68901523
The EU has imported millions of them over the last couple of years, they also didn't bother to do any background checks on any of them
>>68902012
>/pol/ is satire!
>no one really hates nigs and SJWs, they're just trolling h-haha!
how can anyone unironically think this? You need to step outside of your tumblr safe space and experience the real world firsthand.
>>68901818
there;s no need to be condescending la, certainly there is some true to the adage of give them an inch and theyll take a mile
but it is also necessary to step back and see what brexit was more definitively a vote about, muslims were never an issue with this and it will not affect the muslim population or muslim migrants to this country, which is undeniable
there is definitely political climate that wants fewer migrants, probably mainly fewer muslims, but brexit does nothing for this and the politicians who will gain power from this will do nothing for it, it was a technical point
>>68901952
they do exist although diminishing there is still a core in the uk who view the eu as an evil capitalist conspiracy
i asked earlier where you place bernie sanders who has utilised a lot of anti-globalist rhetoric
>>68901775
m8, come on
i prefer 4chan because i have a silly, immature sense of humour and i find it funnier than reddit, i also like the edgy side of it and the lack of censorship/anonymous thought-experiment side of things
but reddit is comfortably the more rational, logical, intelligent (at least based on what is posted there, not necessarily in terms of actual, real-life ability) and down to earth board
if i had to put one board in charge of the country, it would be reddit without hesitation
>>68902039
>the studies are always fundamentally flawed
So find a way to make them without flaws. What's that? You can't. Well then fuck off because you're not up to the task. We need smarter and more creative minds than yours.
>>68902120
Oh there are racist, scumbags in the world who are loud and obnoxious, I know that. But they don't tend to write on internet forums, or write much at all for that matter. They don't tend to be capable of reading or writing.
4chan, although morally ambiguous, are generally intelligent people, so those that post the sort of things on /pol/ are 90% trolling/memeing
>>68902127
>i asked earlier where you place bernie sanders who has utilised a lot of anti-globalist rhetoric
He may have done so in the beginning, I even remember reading anti-immigration commends by him, but after several BLM fiascos he just became a leftier Hillary promising more "social justice" for blacks paid by white taxes.
He doesn't criticize global elites much anymore, just "white privilege". Which is convenient, because the only reason the multicultural globalist coalition of left-wing white liberals and culturally conservative people of colour can keep up is if they all agree to hate white people together.
>>68902201
>So find a way to make them without flaws.
I just told you the way, breaking thoughts down in to measurable units and creating tools to measure them; anything else is always going to be subjective, can't you see that? The creativity lies in creating such a tool, I'm not in the field (neither are you, i'm certain this will be created by biotech or medical tech graduates) so obviously I'm not going to be the one to make it, for all you know however I might be the first to correctly mathematically describe the universe around us something which would require just as much creativity. Though I'm sure that's unlikely, the point is you trying to compare psychology to physics is apples and oranges, doesn't mean your average Physicist isn't infinitely more intelligent though. Next time make sure to read my post before sperging out next time.
>>68902421
What is the problem with "racism" and why it is less socially acceptable than socialism?
Racism killed at most 20 million people, all done by Nazi Germany, mostly from 1941 to 1945. Socialism killed more than 40 million, in Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, China, Cambodia, Laos, Cuba, and is killing them right now in Venezuela and Zimbabwer, from 1917 to the modern day.
I'd say socialism should be more taboo than racism.
>>68902039
>as they rely on subjective, interpreted results
No. They don't. They rely on significance testing and replication.
>Psychology is only called a science because it follows the scientific method when performing experiments
All sciences are called science because they follow scientific method. What else would they be called and for what reason? Odd comment to make.
>The day psychology becomes truly legitimate and a useful tool
Already long gone. Psychology is used everywhere. Business, education, health, criminal justice, forensics, law, perception/vision, the workplace...
>>68902421
>They don't tend to be capable of reading or writing
Do you honestly believe this. People of all races prefer their own, they will all express this in a private sphere. Why do you think half a million whites left London between the last censuses? Why do you think miscegenation is so low?
I get it, you're probably fresh out of reddit/twitter and genuinely want to believe the number of people who have no racial preferences are in the majority. I'm sure you've expressed an opinion that's it's 2016, how can there be so much hate in the world or something to that effect. The reality is you have no clue about people's preferences, you have either lived in a very sheltered bubble or are in complete and utter denial about race in this country
>>68902587
>He thinks socialism is responsible for even one death
No m8. I think what you mean is that power struggles are the cause.
How many 'socialists' have stabbed someone in a pub after an argument about socialism?
>>68902737
>People of all races prefer their own
Actually, people are attracted to others outwith their own race because there is less chance of inbreeding. Obviously a lot more to it than that but I'm not going to type out 300 pages of material for you.
Basically, the more different your genes are, the more healthy your baby is and the less likely it will die. It's a evolutionary mechanism. Ask the Spanish royal family for more details....
>>68902856
this....just isn't true at all lol
>>68902856
>tfw you realise your last 3 gfs have been Lithuanian, Norwegian and Argentinian
might actually be on to something
>>68903076
>two white and one meme black
yes, definitely
>>68902951
No, it is objectively fact. It's absolutely verified 100% truth.
It's okay if you fancy your sister m8, but please don't try to claim that millions of years of evolution are false.... You are the outlying exception.
>okcupid
I suggest you try google scholar, try "attractiveness evolutionary psychology" for a good base of reading.
>>68903110
Doesn't have to be skin colour.
Blonde hair - Black hair
Blue eyes - Brown eyes
Olive skin - White skin
Short - Tall
Freckles - No freckles
Big shoulders - Small shoulders
etc.
etc.
>>68902670
>No. They don't. They rely on significance testing and replication.
I already discussed the failures of Psychology in this regard
>Psychology is used everywhere
Yes but often to minimal effect with very high failure rates.
>>68902856
>Basically, the more different your genes are, the more healthy your baby is and the less likely it will die.
No studies have ever shown this, it's just a meme. It'll be more genetically diverse but not more likely to survive. Are you seriously suggesting a half-black half-eskimo would be more likely to survive in the arctic than a full eskimo, when, that race of people have adapted to the conditions?
>>68903541
Literally all studies have proven this.
>Arguing with someone who literally specialised in this at University
>>68903441
>I already discussed the failures of Psychology in this regard
Yes, poorly.
>but often to minimal effect with very high failure rates.
You have absolutely no idea about what you're talking about.
Anyway, let's say it has minimal effect, why don't you improve it? It's not something that's set in stone. It's being worked on every day. New innovations and discoveries are happening all the time. That's how it works. If we knew everything, it would stop.
>>68903692
Link them then please, I just spent 15 mins searching and couldn't find one which said people have an out of race preference when looking for a mate. You're full of shit
>>68903873
>15 minutes
Improve your research skills.
>>68903970
nah, I'm not spending more than a quarter of an hour on this shite. Shame you wasted 3+ years of your life on it
>>68903873
>couldn't find one which said people have an out of race preference
Maybe because I didn't say that, you spastic. Learn to read properly. People have an almost subconscious preference towards DIVERSE genetics and traits. To ensure their genes are not similar and can therefore avoid inbreeding.
>>68904050
Not even the same guy, retard.
>>68893164
You havent even left yet
>>68904126
>Maybe because I didn't say that, you spastic
Yes you did.
>people are attracted to others outwith their own race because there is less chance of inbreeding.
In fact, you go on to repeat it just a sentence later
>People have an almost subconscious preference towards DIVERSE genetics and traits.
>>68904177
Ok you mong, have you ever thought I couldn't find a single study corroborating his argument because none exist?
>>68904180
And thank god we can now act independently and forge trade deals with the other 120 countries in the world, who constitute 60% of our export market
>>68904275
I can't believe you are this stupid. Read it again. Slowly.
What part of people are attracted to others outwith their own race implies that they have an out of race preference?
I'll even spoon feed you
http://invibe.net/biblio_database_dyva/woda/data/att/c264.file.08484.pdf
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/366/1571/1638.short
http://www.alittlelab.stir.ac.uk/pubs/little_06_assortative_personality_paid.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1087598/pdf/PB010039.pdf
Should be enough to get you started. Want some more? Simple. See the endless list of references at the end of each paper? Just take your pick from any of the hundreds there and read them too.
>>68904499
right here
>People have an almost subconscious preference towards DIVERSE genetics and traits.
Now link to me a study that corroborates your argument. I have said people prefer their own race, you have disagreed with that. Tell me why miscegenation is not only so low, even in countries which are very diverse, but those who do attempt to race-mix have such poor experiences from it?
>>68904719
Already linked, post above.
>>68904839
Not a single study relates to race
