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How much did pic related pay the ref? I haven't seen such REFBALL in this years tournament yet.
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ass status

[x] fractured
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lmao stay mad
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Euro 2016 is not rigged

- noone of value
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>>68577205

yeah, the ref should have ended the match sooner
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>>68577205
>polish intellectuals
>pooland
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>>68577385
THIS
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>>68577205
>3+
>94:00+
>I-Italy paid the ref
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>>68577385
>>68577512
Buffon take like 1 minute to hit the fucking ball
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>>68577205
why so mad Poland? I like you guys. My gf is polish and my kids will be half-polish. Rude 2bh
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>>68577205
These Spaghettis are trying to make it so that it seems it wasn't refball.
Stay stronk polish friend.
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>>68577205

> pooland
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>>68577205
it's a feature.
You think they pay the ref, but it's more like a marvel hero superpower.
Everyone say their squad is weak but in truth it's a formula of "opposition's strength +1".
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>>68577614
he was having a discussion with Chiellini on who should have kicked the ball. It's not his fault
:^)
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>>68577614

Yellow card for delaying is 30 seconds added time, not one minute.
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>>68577614
1- IT WASN'T A MINUTE
2- WHEN YOU'RE ELDERLY YOU PERCEIVE TIME SLOWLIER
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so much butthurt on the internet from useless foreigners. it's 2006 all over again.
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>>68577698
Ref can end the game whenever he wants to.
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>>68577813
just because he can it doesn't mean that he should.
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Some pretty disgusting refereeing out there today with many non-existent offsides being called for Sweden

Both teams were horrible though and Italy only won due to Eder troll goal

Ibra clearly was giving no fucks today

Italy didn't impress me today like they did vs Belgium and they will have big trouble in the Knockout Rounds judging from this match
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>>68577864
It was obvious he would add time since half of the injury time was Italy wasting time.
Don't get mad at the ref for not being retarded.
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>>68577943
Ibra is an italyboo
>Italy didn't impress me today like they did vs Belgium and they will have big trouble in the Knockout Rounds judging from this match
I agree, but I think a lot of it was due to poor tactics on our part. Either way our team is not top-notch in anyway. We don't except to win the Euro.
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>>68578030
*expect
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>>68577998
We wasted time by staying in the corners with the ball, it was fair by the rules, the ref couldn't and shouldn't add 1 minute
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too bad the ref cant take the shots for Sweden, amiright?
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>>68577943

This Italy plays better against stronger teams. Belgium led the match against Italy and Italy was all too happy to counterattack. Today Sweden rarely led the match, and thus Italy had a harder time against them.

Face it, the stronger teams Italy faces, the better it plays.

It's over
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>>68578077
this tbqfh.
ref made stoppage time last 33% longer. that's like the same percentage as the white population of marseille
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Italy can't into fair play, that's nothing new
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>>68578326
Still butthurt? It's just a game.
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>>68578410
You will not win Euro 2016 Giuseppe and you know it.
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>>68578433
true, we will
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>>68578433
we know, we're just here to have a good time.
The favorite to win this year is probably croatia tbqhmylad
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>>68578410
Just like the Italians here in Belgium, they can't do anything by the rules. Thank god they live in shitty ghettos so that I can't hear them scream.
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>>68578433
>>68578479

>this delusion
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>>68578433
Of course not, Jacques.
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>>68578551
2 0 1 2
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>>68578239
>Belgium led the match against Italy
Did you even watch the match?
Because Italy controlled that match since Belgium is just a meme team with no proper organization at all

>>68578030
>Either way our team is not top-notch in anyway. We don't except to win the Euro.
Well you never know
If Greece managed to win it in 2004 so can Italy in 2016
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>>68578433
Either Spain or Africa, we know. Take it easy Kabobo.
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>>68578479
>>68578433
we will
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>>68578542
>thank god they live in shitty ghettos

That's lelgium and their fucking muslims.
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>>68578577

>5PA1N
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>>68578542
maybe if you didn't have a laughable police you could at least stop hearing explosions
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>>68578622
okay im 1/4 greaser
but
STOP SAVING FUCKING THOSE SANDNIGGERS IN THE MEDITERRANEAN
always supported italy though cause of muh heritage
but my country is actually in the competion
so see you in the finals
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>>68578671
how many cups in the last 9 years?
HAHAHAHHAA
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>>68578707
how many in the previous 100?
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>>68578687
This banter is as spicy as Arrabbiata sauce.
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>>68578697
>STOP SAVING FUCKING THOSE SANDNIGGERS IN THE MEDITERRANEAN

Tell that to Bruxelles, they once sanctioned us for escorting those nigger back to Africa.
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Do people unironically think there was a penalty in the 94th minute?
Because there wasn't, Sweden was shit and Memehimovic had a tap in he botched
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>>68578707
>9 years
>9
>NINE
>N
>I
>N
>E
You're being too obvious here flaco
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>>68578762
like 3hunna bitch nigga
why you losing to italy, nigga pull up
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>>68578707

>literally a meme NT for a hundred years
>suddenly and mysteriously the best NT ever of all time
>Suddenly and mysteriously shit again

you'll be remembered like England, a one time wonder
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>>68578798
>albania
cuantas copas tenes morito ajkskskjajaj
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>>68578801
don't worry belgium will finish third, somehow still make it to the knockout stage and win the final. It was the plan all along.
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>>68578828
that will be decided during this month
dont be too quick to talk, you won against two meme teams
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>>68578848
t. Wilmots
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>>68578848
truu
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>>68578828
Engel hasnt win a Eurocup, and their star is vardy.I think that we are a step ahead of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-hfEgz0KcU
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I'm still mad Italy's stars are on the crest, not above.
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>>68578835
>cuanto copas
Nosostros ganamos la copa Balcanica en el ano 1946 :')

De cualquier manera estabamos hablando sobre La Italia
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>>68578956
eurocup is kinda meme tournament and usually deliver some huge hype to be only disappointed

>Euro 2012
>Spain wins
>WC 2014
>Spain fails miserably

>Euro 2004
>Greece wins
>WC 2006
>Greece didn't even qualify

>Euro 2000
>France wins
>WC 2002
>France fails miserably

>Euro 1996
>Germany wins
>WC 1998
>Germany is disappointing

>Euro 1992
>Denmark win
>WC 1994
>Denmark didn't even qualify
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>>68578999
nice trips, also your autism is kicking in!
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>>68579093
talk shit get hit xherdan :)
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>>68578956
>Chatting shit on Vardy
You know what that means...
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>>68578999
Why does everyone seem to care so much about that? I like it.
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>>68578828
>mysteriously
a doctor who gave doping to a lot of spanish sportpeople was arrested.
And then suddenly and mysteriously they became shit in a lot of sports
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>>68578835
Pa tu selva Pancho
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>>68579150
>2008
>Spains wins
>Becomes the best NT in history
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>>68579197
estaba imitando a los argentinos
Salu2 papu
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>>68579162
Mi nombre no esta "Xherdan" Juancito
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What are people even crying refball about? The """penalty""" at the end?
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>>68579239
>Becomes the best NT in history
Only the twitter generation thinks that
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>>68579192
Goes against the tradition, and also makes them less visible. In addition, look at USA's crest, do you want to be compared to them, who have 3 stars on the badge and no world cups?
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>>68579275
español de ingles/10
esos géneros...
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>>68579325
Why do they have three stars anyway?
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>>68579150
>>Euro 2000
>>France wins
>>WC 2002
>>France fails miserably
Mind you, France had won WC 1998, so it doesn't really compare. Same goes for Spain.
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>>68579314
Eurocup-worldcup-eurocup
With the least number of gols recieved in the WC.All the other NTs are memes compared to the 2008-2012 Spain
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>>68579195
THIS, just try to compare today's cycling records whit those of 10 years ago, spain was literally on steroids lel
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>>68579362
If the USWNT logo, which also has stars above the crest, is of any indication, they're decorative.
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>>68578542
I have been in Belgium because my brother works there.
When we went out in the evening, the streets were full of natural blonde belgium girls surrounded by three of four niggers who accompanied them. It looked as if they were their bodyguard or something, but judging from how they spoke to each other, they were clearly fucking. This happened about 10 times in one night.
Wanna know the best thing about this? This really happened, not even shitposting
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>>68579161

to be fair, Italy's current logo is horrible
don't tell me you wouldn't like this more than the shit we have now
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>>68579358
Sorry
My spanish is pretty rusty...I relized that mistake I made right after I posted it but was too lazy to bother fixing it
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>>68579388
>being this buttblasted
not even related to footy
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>>68577205
we should have gotten that penalty.

oh well
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>>68579468
>lazy
quick picking up the culture eh?
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>Sweden can't get a single shot on target
>Cry refball
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>>68579506
>implying sweden would scored that penalty
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>>68579378
Pele's Brazil won 2 WC's in a row and would have had 4 in a row if not for the disaster that was the 1966 WC so no
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there is no shame in losing against a stronger opponent, swedelads. try to git gud for the next occasion.
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>>68579526
>implying being lazy in a mongolian cartoon board is a bad thing
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>>68579668
el albaniANO
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>>68579665
>blonde swedes, don't call us in 9 months

based lads
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>>68579161
>>68578999
>Inb4 nostalgia

this was the best logo
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>>68579572
Pele's Brazil was a meme, that would get curmbstomp by current Iceland. 2010 Spain would destroy them
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>>68579726
>un fottuto distributore di benzina
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>>68579700
SpanjOLLI
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>>68579806

>there are people that actually believe this
what a world we live in lads
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>>68579806
>Pele's Brazil was a meme
>2010's meme Spain team which needed the ref and won every game 1:0 would destroy them
This is what Spaniardcucks believe
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>>68579806
Enric por favor
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>>68578577

No pls ;(
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>>68579848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alPCfEfSr-4
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>>68578697

Are you for real? We have to, no one wanna do that
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>>68579665

lewd
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ah yes, the famous "it's the ref's fault Sweden defended like shit and had zero shots on target" argument
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>>68580090
do you want southern italy to become even more of a shithole?
dont help those rapeugees and fix your shit in southren italy
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>>68578697
>this fucking asshole
We have been screaming for years for the EU and the UNHCR to let us do just that, and we've been threatened sanctions left right up and down. What the fuck do you want us to do more, an hero our economy so the niggers will just have to wait until we can't afford the diesel for the coast guard ships anymore?
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>>68580194

Again, UE force us to save them

Southern Italy will stay forever like this, we accepted that, the majority of them don't wanna chance there's nothing more
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>>68580356
Italy needs another Berlusconi quick
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The ones in control wanted Italy to win

nothing we can do about it
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>>68580194
you don't know shit about south italy.
And you don't know shit about the euro problem (pic related), which is much deeper than your snownigger brain can grasp. We are forced to rescue the rapefugees btw.
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>>68580356
JUST HAVE BALLS
fucking when faggots threaten us we do the opposite
but i guess you are not in as good of a postion as us
that everyone wants to be our friend russia and usa
kek
so we can belike well if you dont like it will just be friends with russia so sorry
for your country and muh heritage country will get cucked......
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>>68580461
>0 (zero) shots
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>It's a "20-year old underachievers on /sp/ discussing politics as if they have any political power" episode
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>>68579884
>>68579927
>>68579959
HAve you retards seen the pace of football back then? Pele wouldnt even be a proffesional player at his prime crrently.Nostalgiafags are a cancer that has to be eliminated
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>>68578433
duh Pierre
our team is objectively shit, mybe with Marchisio and Verratti we could have been more of a threat
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>>68580612
>muh pace
millenial please
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>>68580508
>for your country and muh heritage country will get cucked......

Sure, meanwhile mafia uses those nigger in the camps and if they protest they mysteriously disapperar.
We are not cucks. North europe wants niggers? We bring niggers to them.
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>>68580759
Those players were fucking fat, for todays standards.Have you seen their shape? Even current Englel would defeat those clowns
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>>68580874
>muh athleticism
again...millenial please..stop
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>>68580974
>Athletism is not important in football
>Said the retard little muslim
Even players like Aguero are better than Pele ever was.
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>>68578433
you will win it, there is no doubt about it
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>>68581110
if Pelle was born in 1990, he woud be more athletic. What you are talking about does not depend on the talent of the player, but on team preparation that changes with the times, as medicine and science progress. You are being ridiculous anon, pls stop.
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>>68581110
You do realize that even Pele's Brazil are more athletic than a bunch of midgets right?

Athleticism means jaskshit in football anyways
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>>68580194
I am a sicilian
we have literally millions of eurobux from the refugee crisis that you nordifucks are paying for us to be unemplyed and save poor migrants on the sea.
feels good man.
also, you fucking icelander, you are a countryof seamen, you should know that the unwritten law of the sea is TO ALWAYS SAVE THE ONE WHO IS IN TROUBLE.
fucking fascist idiots that know shit about european sea culture
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>>68581350
save more of the useless wealthfare leeching sandniggers
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>>68581529
>leeching sandniggers

says the one born in Iceland from a 'sandnigger' italian..
how delusional you poltards are
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>>68581350
this
letting someone drown is literally worse than ISIS burning people alive
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>>68581595
nah northren italy 70 years
ago northren italy is good and nice and lovely been to italy south is GARABAGE
my great grandfather fucked of to usa
my grandfather met my grandmother
and poof my dad poof me
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Niggers niggers niggers
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>>68581529
Of course, we'll make sure they go to Iceland too.
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>>68581350
>ALWAYS SAVE THE ONE WHO IS IN TROUBLE
They willingly put themselves in trouble so that the police is forced to rescue them instead of send them back. They shouldn't be rescued when they scuttle the boats on purpose.
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>>68581529
sicilians have done more for world culture and science than it would take 5000 years for Iceland to replicate. And I am not even sicilian.
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>>68581326
Kek.Pele's team was full of fatties. Even keepers were fitter than the old players were.Even midgets like Iniesta, can pressure for 90 minutes at a high pace.
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>>68581775
ask a real seaman what he will do if he see 200 people drowning.
don't talk about things you don't know please
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>>68581595
why are you so butthurt are you a migrant leech?
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>>68581701
Ironically south Italy is the most adverse to immigrations.
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>>68581782
t-thank you amico
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>>68581831
italians, and especially sicilians, are natural born migrants so yes
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>>68581823
Oh I have no doubts he will save everyone he can.
Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
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>>68581795
>"Spain is the best team in History"
>"No,Pele's Brazil is"
>"Umm...umm...they don't count because they were in Black & White"
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>>68581858
very ironically, since they've been emigrating for centuries and still are
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>>68581976
>country already has enough problems by itself
>EU tells you to rescue and house at your expenses millions of illiterate dindu nuffins
>say you don't like it
>"HOW DARE YOU"
anon pls
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Stay mad wojak, Italia is going to win the cup.
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>>68582045
give that man a beer
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>>68582045
10/10 banter right there
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>>68577205
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Remember to deliberately lose to Ireland in the last game so you avoid Germany Italybros.
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>>68582028
i'm just saying it's ironic since you were those dindus until very recently
and don't give me that "muh hardworking honest people", sure many were, but some literally exported mafia to every corner of the world
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>>68582194
>implying we want to avoid germany
that's a free ticket to quarterfinals m8
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>>68582194
>deliberately lose to Ireland
Win against Belgium and we'll consider it.
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>>68581895
are Italians natural born hotheads or something did the gene fly by me?
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>>68582199
But they are our dindu.
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>>68582116
YOU BETTER NOT FUCK EVERYTHING UP TOMORROW
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>>68582199
>since you were those dindus until very recently
We never were refugees. Italians always immigrated towards countries who were fully capable of refusing us entry, but didn't because they WANTED immigrants.
The situation is not comparable in the slightest.
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>>68582266
I am too and all the people I know are
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>>68581967
They dont count, because they play at an amateur pace.
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>>68578956
>2016
>chatting shit about Vardy
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>>68582313
what do you think "wop" stands for?
most italians were illegals

and no, not everyone wanted our immigrants
lastly, the fact we were not refugees (so we were not fleing from war) is not a virtue
if anything, it makes it worse

but i don't intend to insult our immigrants, many went to die in mines and work 16 hours shifts in factories to feed their families, i'm just saying condemning african immigrants altogether is bullshit
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>>68580500
why is Germany in that map
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>>68582542
How is immigration good for Italy? Simply it isn't.
Mors tua vita mea.
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>>68582542
>what do you think "wop" stands for?
Guappo. The without passport shit is a later invention.
And you can't have illegals on transoceanic journeys, because those ships need proper docks. You can't take a fisherman's boat from Palermo to New York.

>and no, not everyone wanted our immigrants
The governments did, which is all that matters. And when they didn't, we stopped coming, because they didn't let us in anymore.

>if anything, it makes it worse
Are you retarded? Do you actually believe that being a normal migrant honestly asking to get in and waiting to be accepted is worse than being an economic migrant faking refugee status trying to force his way in?
You must be a fucking boatnigger too.
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>>68582199
south italians always migrated legally, you fucking idiot.
Italy never asked for more blue collar workers, as opposed to all the countries italians migrated to.
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>>68582542
>most italians were illegals
[citation needed]
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>>68582325
Spain doesn't count since they had refball and doped
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>>68582814
without migrants the rich northeast would be poor.
the migrants are actually paying for the retirement of italian elderly workers.
we gain more than we give with migrants.
stop your racist bullshit
go fuck back to pol or to suck Salvini's cock
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>>68579195
based dr fuentes enslaving meme magic for us
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Is there a chance Germany can face Italy in the knock-out stages?

I'm really hoping for it. Can't wait to get rid of our Italy trauma. And after eliminating Italy we'll get rid of Spain too.
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>>68582814
>How is immigration good for Italy?
it's good for radical chic leftards like >>68583049 who couldn't be arsed to do the most humble jobs. immigrants do that for peanuts, italians don't.

that's why "people" like Boldrini are so keen on promoting "muh integration", "muh social diversity"
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>>68583049
Not that anon , but it doesn't work like that. Our unemployment rate is too high.
A huge mass of immigrants will only lower the wages for lots of low income people.
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>actual Italians have zero faith in their team, despite a century of evidence that they're the most accomplished team in Europe
>Europeans clamoring about "muh individual talent" when it means fuckall in an international tournament
>he had a shitty club season, therefore he's a bad player

I thought you fags were knowledgeable about soccer. You act like England fans, but actually win shit. Wtf is wrong with you greasy fucks?
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>>68583049
>without migrants the rich northeast would be poor.
Citation needed, the northeast got rich decades before immigration started.
>the migrants are actually paying for the retirement of italian elderly workers.
We have 40% youth unemployment. We don't need fucking foreigners to work here (mostly illegally) and lower wages even more.
>we gain more than we give with migrants.
Prove it, you mindless sellino.
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>>68583049
>being so buttblasted for me pointing the obvious
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>>68583187
>it's good for radical chic leftards like >>68583049 who couldn't be arsed to do the most humble jobs. immigrants do that for peanuts, italians don't.

exactly

>b-but somebody has to pick the cotton!
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>>68583216
you aren't wrong that tournament like this can have unpredictable results, but our team has evident problems.
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>>68583187
>>68583212
yes they come here to work, italians are lazy fucks.
all the agriculture economy would collapse without migrants.
all the northeast economy would collapse without migrants.
capitalism needs slave labour, it was terroni back then and it is migrants now.
what do you expect? do you exect businessmen to treat you right?
NO
sono gli imprenditori a dare paghe da fame, non certo i poveri (italiani o stranieri) che chiedono stipendi bassi.
it's not about right or left (of course I am) it's about economy
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>>68583187
I'm sure there's a lot of people that would do those humble jobs, it's just that they want a decent salary. Immigration lower the wages instead.
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>troll thread about supposed refball derailed into immigration debate

jesus, the /pol/ and /int/ invasion is worse than ever, but for once it was useful
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>>68583433
SO DOES EVERY TEAM. Even in the 2006 WC run there were problems scoring, and that was with Totti, Del Piero, Inzhagi, Toni, Gilardino, etc.
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>>68583221
here you are

http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/notizie/2013-11-13/tra-tasse-e-contributi-immigrati-portano-casse-stato-133-miliardi-anno-170020.shtml?uuid=ABbAHyc

http://www.adnkronos.com/lavoro/previdenza/2015/10/22/rapporto-con-contributi-stranieri-pagate-mila-pensioni-anno_lNJvT2HYsvSJoY610azt7J.html

I never voted for SEL or Rifondazione or other shit.
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>>68583457
confirmed for having no idea of what you're talking about
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>>68583457
>what do you expect? do you exect businessmen to treat you right?
>NO
then start your own business
the only way to win in a casino is owning one
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>>68583457
Gli imprenditori danno paghe da fame perchè c'è qualcuno disposto a lavorare per una miseria, vale a dire gli immigrati. come fa un intellettualoide di sinistra come te a non capire un concetto cosi semplice?
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>>68583589
You have to prove that that money wouldn't come if our unemployed worked those jobs and that all the social expenses the immigrants cause (crime, overburdened services, social tensions, etc.) are worth those money anyway.
Also good job presenting an old article that doesn't consider the boatniggers invasion.
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>>68583171
if you couldn't score against Poland you won't score against Italy.
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>>68583698
which is, ironically, a result of capitalism itself. It's like factories moving to china or some other shithole, except it happens in our country.
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>>68583698
L'essere intellettual*oide* in sè implica idiozia anon, altrimenti sarebbe intellettuale.
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>>68582986
I'm not sure they were illegals, but the Italians that came here during the late XIXth/early XXth century were poorer than any refugee that we see now (considering there weren't any such thing as the state giving the money). I know an old man who's family came from Milan, and they had to live in a shed hidden in the forest until he was ten. They were treated like legit scum too.
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>>68583585
Listen, four months ago I said in the serie a general that we had a strong team and we could even win the euros while people where laughing at me. But we did lose two central pieces of our midfield. Today it was quite evident that the absence of Verratti will cause troubles
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>>68583816
> were poorer than any refugee that we see now
> They were treated like legit scum too.
Still, they migrated legally. Also that only shows how current year refugees can't play the morality card on.
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>0 shots on targets
>cry reffball
>lose 2-0
>cry because we didnt attack all the time
why is everyone always so butthurt when they lose to us? Is it because we are supposed to be shit now or what
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>>68583784
>le evil capitalism cuck poster

Why don't you propose something pratical, instead of complaining of idealisms?
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>>68582834
>refugee=economic migrant faking refugee
what? i was talking about proper refugees

>the government did, which is all that matters
so as long as our goverment wants to rescue boat people it's all right

as for the origin of wop, it's debateable
but don't you think the fact that theory exists could be a hint?
many italians lacked proper papers, but got through anyway because controls and regulations were way more lax, that shit about translatantic ships having proper docks means jackshit, just pay an higher fee and you'd get through

>>68582814
when there was some sort of strike going on in America, UK or Belgium (mines, factories, whatever) businessmen called immigrants to work in place of local workers, who obviously hated their guts
italian, polish, irish, whatever, immigration lowered the wages as well, that's what immigration does, if anything the problem is that italian economy isn't growing
that's our problem, not immigrants, they're little more than strawmen
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>>68584040
An Italian backline will make even the most sensible fan lose his mind. They are unbelievable right now. Honestly, who cares about the center midfield when your back line is impenetrable, your attackers are outperforming and your wings have depth and and talent?
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>>68583717
>crime
>CRIME
in italy. you are saying that migrants bring illegality?
in italy.
ok.

>>68583698
no.
gli imprenditori danno paghe da fame per guadagnare di più. anche gli italiani sono costretti a guadagnare poco e niente. dare la colpa ai migranti è miope desu sempai

>>68583717
I don't have to prove anything. I'm just happy seeing all this racist wankers so triggered butthurt kek
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>>68584192
i'm not complaining of idealism, it looks like a pretty practical situation
the poorer you are, the lower will be your standards--->you will accept lower salary--->the businessman will hire you instead of the national who demands a higher standard of living

It's not about capitalists being "evil", it's just how normal capitalism works. There are two solutions for young unemployed italians
1) accept the shittiest jobs possible and do with what you can
2) migrate to a place where your PhD in vattelappesca might give you a decent job
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>>68584481
yes they are impenetrable but you can always concede a goal
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>>68584346
>when there was some sort of strike going on in America, UK or Belgium (mines, factories, whatever) businessmen called immigrants to work in place of local workers, who obviously hated their guts
>italian, polish, irish, whatever, immigration lowered the wages as well, that's what immigration does, if anything the problem is that italian economy isn't growing
>that's our problem, not immigrants, they're little more than strawmen

I don't understand why you're advocating for measures that hinder to part of the italian population.
And how the economic stagnation of our country is supposed to be related to the afflux of immigrants?
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>>68584346
>what? i was talking about proper refugees
Were you talking of a pointlessly small minority? For what purpose?
>so as long as our goverment wants to rescue boat people it's all right
Sure. They DON'T want to now (international law is forcing them to), I'm sure you're aware.

>as for the origin of wop, it's debateable
Not really, the whole acronym shit wasn't even a thing at that point, it started decades later.
>but don't you think the fact that theory exists could be a hint?
No, because "without passport" doesn't even imply illegal immigration considering the US was free entry for most of the italian immigration period.
>many italians lacked proper papers, but got through anyway because controls and regulations were purely bureaucratic and in no way meant to stop immigrants coming in until like the 20s.
FTFY.
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>>68584530
qui non si tratta di dare colpe. L'afflusso di immigrati è dannoso per gli italiani.
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>>68584530
I thought you were a commie, but this post actually makes me think that you might be a sandnigger.
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>>68584346
>strawmen

Those filthy niggers get 35€ per day, do jack shit all day, don't pay taxes, have free wifi, free board and lodging.
How are they strawmen? Those resources could and should be used for italians.
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>>68582325
>Playing against Beckenbauer, Rivellino, Ademir da Guia, Leonidas and other GOATs
>AMATEUR
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>>68585000
>>68584890
la cosa che mi piace degli italiani su /sp/ è che sembrano molto più intelligenti degli altri.
anche e di opinioni politiche diverse si può discutere con (quasi tutti).
l'altra volta qui un utente straniero diceva che voleva più anons italiani perché non sono male.
chissà da cosa dipende
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>>68585479
shitposting selettivo
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>>68585479
>chissà da cosa dipende
Dipende dal fatto che /int/ è lammerda per tutte le nazionalità e gli italiani sulle altre board non li riconosci perchè no flags.
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>>68585572
su /pol/ le flag ci sono ed effettivamente gli italiani fanno cacare.
magari dipende da altri fattori tipo istruzione/controculture/odio sociale/licei migliori non so.
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>>68585264
non sono l'anon a cui rispondi ma quel contributo secondo me è una delle tante strategie della tensione per destabilizzare il sempre più precario equilibrio sociale di questo paese
quanto ci scommettete?

>inb4 35€
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>>68585650
>su /pol/ le flag ci sono
Oh ma è nuova sta roba? Potrei giurare che l'ultima volta che ho visitato su /pol/ c'erano bandiere tipo Israele, Repubblicani/Democratici, etc.

E comunque è /pol/ eh. La gente va là specificamente per shitpostare, fanno schifo tutti.
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>>68585787
>GOMBLODDO
l'ultima cosa che vogliono i politici italiani è l'instabilità. Basta con questo meme.
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>>68578077
>Italians playing like Italians

B-but why does the ref gets mad
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>>68585479
gli italiani che sanno parlare inglese in modo abbastanza fluente sono pochi e sono quelli che hanno ricevuto una buona istruzione
qualunque stronzo anglofono di madre lingua o che viene da un paese con un ottima istruzione linguistica (Scandinavia, Paesi Bassi, Germania) può venire su 4chan, mentre solo italiani di una certa caratura culturale possono
su /int/ ciò non vale perchè c'è quella general di merda che è /ita/ dove si parla italiano e quindi anche i peggio decerebrati hanno accesso facile

e comunque spiegami come tu possa pensare che il primo post a cui hai risposto sia esempio di intelligenza (sul secondo nulla da dire)

a proposito di ciò, parlare italiano su /sp/ è da stronzi, revert back to inglisc
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>>68585650
Perche fanno cagare? Solo perchè hanno opinioni diverse dalle tue?
La realtà è questa: gli immigrati non hanno nulla da offrire all'Italia e creano solo concorrenza sleale.
Qualche settimana fa hanno anche ferito un carabiniere e quando questo ha fatto fuoco si sono anche messi a manifestare. Con quale coraggio? Sono dei disonesti.
Perchè ti ostini a difenderli?
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>>68586102
>italiani di una certa caratura culturale
Ma per carità, siamo nell'anno del signore MMXVI, il 99% dei liceali e dei tecnici/turistici sanno l'inglese abbastanza bene da postare qui.
Senza contare il fatto che avere una decente preparazione scolastica non è in alcun modo indicatore di intelligenza o preparazione politica.
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>>68577205
All the matches I've seen so far had the same ref behaviour. Slow to end the game, very tight with yellow cards and penalties unless absolutely necessary, tightens up in the last 20 minutes or so.

Didn't see anything out of the ordinary this match. Just a bad ref in general, didn't help sweden or italy in any way.

giving a penalty kick on the 4th minute of the game that he failed to end when the ball was dead would have been refballing.
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>>68585344
Yes, all of those would be rayo tier in the current year
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>>68586140
La concorrenza sleale non esiste.
Gli immigrati sovraccaricano il mercato del lavoro, che è un'altra cosa (comunque estremamente negativa).
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>>68577943
I wouldn't call "troll goal" a single man just going through the entire Swedish defense like it was nothing.

The problem is that Italy was a "troll team" - they played like shit, could have punished sweden so hard if they just charged through their piss poor defense.
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>>68586140
tu sai a Rosarno in che condizioni vivono gli immigrati?
sono letteralmente schiavi. pagati 20 euro per lavorare 12 ore al giorno e devono pure pagarsi vitto e alloggio.
se gli imprenditori agricoli non avessero manodopera schiavile, dovrebbero chiudere.
io non li difendo per partito preso, penso che prendersela con loro sia miope. i veri colpevoli sono altri.
poi se ti fa stare bene identificare nei migranti il nemico fallo pure, ma non su /sp/ io odio quando /int/ e /pol/ invadono /sp/. purtroppo ho risposto a quel coglione islandese col nonno italiano e da lì partì 'sto flame.

>>68586102
sono d'accordo sul fatto dell'istruzione.
e sono d'accordo pure sul parlare inglese, il problema è che /pol/ invade /sp/ e mi rompo il cazzo e dopo un po' rispondo
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>>68586540
>tu sai a Rosarno in che condizioni vivono gli immigrati?
Condizioni scelte da loro in conseguenza all'aver voluto venire qua. Contro il nostro volere peraltro.
Si meritano tutto e di più.
Peraltro vergognati a chiamarli schiavi, possono tornarsene a casa quando cazzo vogliono.
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>>68579726
>three stars
Not quite
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>>68586390
E' tipico dell'intellettuale di sinistra sentirsi di una certa caratura culturale e quindi superiore a quei sudici bigotti, che si spaccano il culo tutto il giorno e quindi gli rode quando sentono dei privilegi di un immigrato.
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>>68586390
>siamo nell'anno del signore MMXVI
pic related

anyway you're deluded, italians (youths as well) are still terrible with english
and education is not an indicator of intelligence, true, but is vital for a proper understanding of politics, how can you even deny it?
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>>68586725
pic relatissima
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>>68586140
>>68586390
>>68586503
>>68586540
>>68586607
>>68586725

Fucking stop with our beautiful language and go back to english

A place and time for everything
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>>68586749
>anyway you're deluded, italians (youths as well) are still terrible with english
My whole high school class (graduated 2011) could have posted here easily. We were an average as fuck provincial scientifico, not some excellence school.
>and education is not an indicator of intelligence, true, but is vital for a proper understanding of politics, how can you even deny it?
Education is indeed necessary to understand politics, but it does not imply it. Nor do italian schools provide education in the fields necessary to understand politics (aside from a smudge of philosophy that usually barely even gets to Marx).
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>>68586725
yup, i'm superior to people who still fail to see the bigger picture and blame boat people that prefer slaving away in a foreign country rather than stay in their own and face certain death by the age of 50 for their problems
i'm also superior to people that work shitty jobs because they either were too shitheaded to have decent grades in school or they were not ambitious/hardworking enough to elevate their social position

now bathe me in (You)s
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>>68586390
>il 99% dei liceali e dei tecnici/turistici sanno l'inglese abbastanza bene da postare qui.
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>>68583171
if we both end up first as it seems, we'll meet in the quarters
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>>68586978
>people who still fail to see the bigger picture
Oh the irony.
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>>68586749
I can easily deny it with your own post. You can speak english fluently but you know shit of politics.
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>>68586978
I'll say it again:
Mors tua vita mea.
It's that simple, really.
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>he's superior to people who fail to see the bigger picture
>still posts and brags about it on a Laotian manhole covers manufacturer bulletin group

wew lad
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>>68586931
well, you must have had a good english teacher
trust me, the average level is absymal
my school though provided at least the bare minimum knowledge needed, like modern history, philosophy (barely even gets to Marx? really? we went well past him in my school), some classes on the Constitution and the parlimentary system

>>68587299
shitposting is an hobby like any other, i use it as a substitute to trash tv
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bei memas amici xd
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>>68587397
>trust me, the average level is absymal
The average level of language understanding in a curriculum where the last 3 years are dedicated to the study of literature rather than grammar and examinations are both oral and written essays/open questions should be more than high enough to allow students to post here, let's be honest. Not being able to properly discuss Wordsworth and shitposting on spee aren't quite on the same level.

>we went well past him in my school
Lucky you. Not only we barely got to him, we also focused on the germans and barely touched upon the english who are the foundation of modern political thought (Hume, Locke, Hobbes, etc).

Also civics are barely relevant here. Knowing how our specific parliament works helps discussing politics, but not policy.
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>>68586102
This
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>>68581701
>Northern Italy
>nice

Sure Lombardi or Veneti are really smart, well mannered and educated people .
Also Veneti terroni del nord.
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>>68587853
>Sure Lombardi or Veneti are really smart, well mannered and educated people .
As much as any other european, you racist fuck.
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bei memas amici xd
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>>68577205

italy can pay the ref all they want. that wont make sweden have 0 shots all tournament..
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>>68588024
meanwhile in england a muppet like Hodgson still has a job... in the national team

lmao
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>>68587959
>italian is a race now
This is your brain on communism
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This is now an Italian thread.
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>>68588117
>now
You're like 3h late.
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Giusto per creare un po' di dolorculo a voi disgustosi lombardo-veneti - probabilmente calvi, grassi, bassi e inbred.

Campano qui. Sei anni fuoricorso in filosofia. Sì, filosofia. Adesso sto per partire per Berlino, starò lì da amiche e non farò altro che scopare e sfondarmi di droghe. Poi mi trasferisco a Parigi per il dottorato.

In tutto questo non farò nulla: non ho mai lavorato in vita mia e non ho nessuna intenzione di muovere un dito prima dei 35-36 anni. Verrò mantenuto da mio padre e dalle sua attività. Chiaramente la maggior parte di ciò che guadagna è in nero.

E niente, voi divertitevi a stare sbrodolare maymay su 4chan ed a parlare male dei terroni e studiate per le vostre lauree in ingegneria informatica, io intanto ME LO SPACCO IN MANO pensando al fatto che non pagherò mai un euro di tasse in Italia.

Ciaone!
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>>68588785
>dottorato
>fuori corso

è meglio che vai a fare il pescivendolo
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>>68588904
Sono stato fuori corso per sei anni, vado a fare M1 e M2 e successivamente il dottorato.
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>>68588785
>scopare e sfondarmi di droghe
Dovrei invidiarti?
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>>68588785
and yet here you are too posting on the 4chins
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>>68588785
joke's on you, mio cugino lavora alla polizia postale
di a tuo padre di salutare la finanza da parte sia mia che tua quando scoprirà che perderà tutto perchè suo figlio è un drogato che non sa tenere la bocca chiusa ;^)
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>>68578687
Mario bringing the bantz
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>>68578433
France confirmed winner. \m/
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>>68578433
>Choking vs Albania and Romania

Luckily, you won't either.
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>>68577205
Wales got refballed super hard by us tbqh
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>>68577708
I think the elderly thing applies to Buffon
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