TACTICS THREAD
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Here we discuss the wonderful Italy 3-5-2 and the shittiness of 4-2-3-1.
>>68432293
Belgium turned to 3-5-2 too in min 75 or so.
Very good tactics, strong defence and quick attack
Beautiful play with a team of mediocre players: that is what tactics are about.
Those 2 wingbacks (Giaccherini-Darmian) had acres of space in front of them in every attacking effort.
>>68432293
GOAT formation, always use it in any football game, with one dm and two AM in front.
>Verratti
>Marchisio
>good Balotelli
now you're making me feel
reminder that based argentina was the first team to use this system in '86
>don't have very good fbs
>play three cbs and giacherini and darmian at fbs
>don't have very good fbs
>play one cb at lb and a shitter at rb to force 433
woop
>>68432293
it's a good system when you don't have skillful players. It also offers a great deal of flexibilty when transition from defense to attack.
Problem is, not that many defenders can adapt, since they've been playing 4 behind is the standard and played like that since they were kids
>>68434939
But Belgium doesn't have wide players that can play the whole side
Also Wilmots apparently tried 3-5-2 with his "B squad" against the starters in a recent training day and the B team won 4-0
>>68434760
>Not feeling for Pirlo
Traitor.
>>68434966
If only Italy had Verratti in midfield ;_;
And a slightly better striker than Eder too
Think 4-2-3-1 is shit try 4-1-4-1
>all the fifa meme lads are here
There is no such thing as a good or bad formation (talking about the rather standard ones of course). All that matters is how you use them and how you choose one to fit the players at your disposal.
>>68434838
and it led to the most defensive and boring era in football
thanks a lot bilardo
>>68435149
word
but it can be useful to also take in consideration the team you're playing against.
>>68435083
>If only Italy had Verratti in midfield ;_;
and Marchisio, and we do have better striker than Eder, both on the bench and at home
>>68432293
4-6-0 is GOAT if you are the worse team. hope tard terim is going to realize this vs spain else it will be a new 7-1(assuming we score)
>>68435149
>In other words
Try and fit the most of your best players into your first 11
3-5-2 was the formation of choice in Hattrick
This is a man who knows what he is doing
>>68435149
>We will never see the 2-3-5 again since Peps Barca is dead
Was glorious seeing a system not used in a century, if only for a short while. I will always love Pep for his mad expermentation durung the Barca years.
Pros
>Good to dominate midfield
>good to play high pressure + press opposition centre backs
Cons
>requires pacey wingbacks (not common at the top level)
>requires both good tactical and positional understanding from players
>hard-countered from teams who play direct/route 1 into the back
>hard countered by teams who have wingers that can just receive a long ball out wide
tl:dr it works for italians who play on small pitches with no wingers
Thread over, go home
>>68435289
>he'll go away after coaching this Euro
AGGHIAGGIANDE
>>68435317
United should have picked him up instead of Mou
>>68435083
Tbh I think being an underdog helped Italy so much mentally.
They tend to flop very hard when they're hyped up.
Missing a few players and being counted out was good for Italy desu.
How do you guys think Conte will play Sweden and Ireland?
Technically it's them who need to chase points, so will he just sit back and hit them with Immobile / Insigne on the contraball?
>>68435149
Partially true. I can't think of any great team using 4231 apart from Germany in South Africa's WC
However, it's insanely popular even though it requires great attacking midfielders and a quick tempo. So many teams use this and perform miserably
>>68435359
it does feel like 4-2-3-1 is becoming outdated and teams use either 4-3-3 (the attacking ones) or 4-4-2 (the defensive, counter attacking ones) with an occasional Italian 3-5-2.
However, in football things rarely become totally obsolete and many tactical ideas make their come backs after a few years of perceived irrelevancy. ~6 years ago, 4-4-2 was considered a stone age formation used only by Pulis tier hoofballers. Right now it's making a huge comeback with brilliant counter attacking sides like Leicester or Atletico using it as their primary shape and killing teams on the counter attack with 2 strikers running into channels.
It's just a matter of time before some manager "reinvents" 4-2-3-1.
Been saying for years, 4231 is the most cancerous tactic ever.
>>68435460
>4-3-3 (the attacking ones) or 4-4-2 (the defensive, counter attacking ones)
these are systems easy to understand, and since football has switched to a more athletic style of play, it's better for a team to spend time training than learning movements
>>68435201
I, for one, do not miss Marchisio
>>68435460
iceland here
defensive CA 442 with runners all rounds, leicester style
>>68435317
Who will you get after him, Mario?
