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England 225/5 (72.5 ov) v Sri Lanka at Lords
>>68243670
Shit thread
I don't where that is but I would go.
Fat chicks give mind blowing top.
>>68243670
anime
>>68243670
>ywn plow Gemma Collins with the burning rage of a 1000 suns
why live bros
>>68243685
Just trying to attract some BSAs lad
>>68243694 already got some bites
>Herath is literally unironically the best spinner in the world right now
posting in a gatebrick thread
wanna know what the biggest logical fallacy ever is that commentators make that really pisses me off
like when a catch is dropped but then a wicket falls soon after and they go 'x should be 2 down by now', implying that if the catch had been held then events would have unfolded the same and we know the team would be 2 down
just had to let that off my chest
>>68243718
Absolutely based
@68243724
you
>>68243740
It actually makes me fucking seethe
>if Lyon wasn't umpballed, New Zealand would have won!
Fuck off
>Compton
so how long until Bell is back in the side?
All out for 311 I reckon
>>68243769
i know m8 pretty braindead
>>68243773
T I T S
I
T
S
>>68243773
Never.
They'll probably pick Borthwick or some shit instead.
>>68243773
I'm not going to stoop so low as to look, but I bet Piers is already shilling for a KP return instead
>>68243769
Kek, there was a group of Kiwi coaches in Hong Kong absolutely fucking seething when that happened.
lads
What about [spoiler]morgan[/spoiler]
>>68243826
I did look it up, and he is
>>68243826
yeh hes literally been on damage control all morning saying england missed out on 4 years of the goat
>>68243806
id choose scott borthwick, hes had a fuck ton of runs this summer batting at one of the worst decks for batsmen too
hales has to be careful too, DBD, roy or robson could easily have his spot for the Pakistan series
who /crippling loneliness/ here
>>68243867
I've got my close, 4chan internet pals to keep me company!
someone recommend me a film with ruthless gangsters
>>68243826
I will, and he did
>>68243928
Pulp Fiction
>>68243928
Green Room, dunno if it's had a DVD release yet
>>68243970
>Green Room,
is this libtard shit
>>68243928
boondock saints
This absolute madman
>>68244027
this man needs to grow up
mahela jayawardene is underrated
guys we can apply for the india coaching job at [email protected]
bairstow better get a ton tonight the ginger cunt
With hockey about to end, should I watch this sport?
>>68244330
Please watch our sport BSA
>>68244341
>ranked 13 in the world
badminton is literally the only sport you're good at it
>>68244373
>you're
I'm not from here lad.
The best male singles player is Malaysian though.
This TMS commentator's voice makes me hard and I'm not even gay.
cricket is gay
>mohammad amir will play against england
what message does this send to our youngsters when a man criminally convicted of spot fixing is allowed to continue playing the sport!
Everytime Pakistan come to england there is trouble
>>68244618
Salman butt and asif were more involved, he was just an impressionable young kid in the operation
>>68244618
dude he was like 12 when it happened get over it
test
>>68244639
>>68244632
he was an adult, and considering the drive to push the fundamental values of the game and sport in general, anyone whose gunna cheat at 18 is rotten to the core, you could understand if it was someone in the twilight of their career looking for one last payday but this guy had a 20+ year career ahead of him
>>68244663
>you could understand if it was someone in the twilight of their career looking for one last payday
>>68244663
it's better for the game amir plays again
amir is literally going to take 26 wickets @18 this summer btw
>>68244712
>its better for sport that we allow people who break the rules to continue
Better unban Sharapova then, give those medals back to marion jones, ben Johnson and lance Armstrong and clear the names of sreesanth and hansie -.-
>>68244763
ffs he was just a kid from a small village who made a mistake. The other two guys should've been banned for life but Amir shouldn't.
>>68244763
he did 5 years
surrey vs hampshire not on tv and i cant find a livestream, what the fuck?
>>68244805
they should have all been banned for life (especially asif who also has suspensions for taking performance enhancing drugs), whats most ridiculous is butt was sentenced to 30 months in prison but was released after 6!
how do u think the english team will be voting in the referendum, mostly out i reckon
>>68244763
He did his time, get over it.
Spot fixing is NOT the same thing as match fixing.
>>68244835
i don't think it's being televised at all
>>68244890
so there's no way to watch it? wow that fkin sucks.
>>68244867
>they should have all been banned
Not Amir
>>68244835
http://cricfree.sx/sky-sports-2-live-stream-
They may show it on SS2 after theyve finished interviewing the england lot
>>68244902
i know right
>>68244919
they won't
guys the match is over but i'm jsut not ready to say goodbye yet ;(
>>68244889
>did his time
despite the fact his sentences were lenient as fuck, he only ended up serving 3 months in prison instead of 12 and was allowed back into cricket 8 months early in his 5 year sentence
>>68244994
m8 you're just scared of what he's going to do to this S H A K Y english middle order this summer get over it i'm not even a paki desu
>>68245015
>i'm not even a paki desu
>>68245015
I'm not English
>>68244950
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/cricket/36455196
Guess its time to break out the wireless while playing some CC2015
>>68244994
It really doesn't matter tbẖ, he learnt his lesson and has obviously matured since.
>Saxon,Mackaybro,Germanbro and Trump Hat Guy will never spend a night on the town Drinking Tequila,snorting coke and fucking hookers
Why live
>Drinking Tequila
that's gross
>>68245029
i'm white british, my town is literally 99.8% white. but amir is elite
>>68245150
I'm pretty white myself, mate.
>>68245126
>not liking tequila
youre not supposed to like it, its just a thing you do, like shaving your legs
>>68245029
>Weeaboo
>Pakistani
pick 1 yaar :^)
>>68245164
i'll stick to korn
>>68245164
Jynn are you really a grill?
Do you want to be the cheerleader on the /Cric/ XI or is that too misogynistic of me?
>>68245160
are paki girls slutty
Post /Cric/ approved original music videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Toz4YGyV2II&app=desktop
Jeet Raval called up to test squad
Cucktill on suicide watch
>>68245290
Only the slutty ones
>>68245229
>you
>being new
pick both
>>68244589
delet
>>68244994
Do you really think some cunt who bowled a no-ball is worth costing a prison spot over somebody who actually committed robbery, rape, murder etc?
>>68247555
He literally, unironically and objectively is still in the squad.
FUCK the selectors.
>>68252985
Reminder NZC unironically called Hesson Poo Peeland's greatest ever selector
>>68253058
He's made some questionable calls but he literally is. Miles above any Poo Peelian selector that's for sure.
>>68253162
>Mark Craig for 14 (fourteen) tests
>Guptill for 36 (thirty six) tests
>"""questionable"""
Meanwhile you CANNOT name a SINGLE mistake made by WA's proud Rod Marsh
>>68252985
>LE FUG LE GUPDILL XDXDXD
Kek. Shut your fucking mouth kid. He's literally one of the best batsmen in the world in the only relevant format.
>>68253345
Maxwell at 3
Alex Doolan
Scott Boland
Try harder gateloser
>>68243670
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>68254169
It was worth giving Maxwell a shot given his pie chucking and the lack of a non-shit number three at the time.
Doolan had played very well against South African bowlers during warm-up games and his Pakistan selection was just a case of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks in response to a terrible tour along with the aforementioned number 3 problem.
Boland is a fine selection for the touring squad. He only played games last year to search for a world T20 squad, which you WOULD know if you weren't a fucking casual.
>>68254814
Scott Boland was a sore back away from a test cap. Neck yourself.
>>68254169
Why would you list Doolan when there have been far worse selections? (Quiney, >XD, Beer etc)? Doolan was bad but atleast he was coming off a decent Shield season so there was some sort of logic to his selection
>>68255660
>Why would you list Doolan when there have been far worse selections?
discard this, didn't read gatetossers post
>muh Rod Marsh
well he is better than Hilbitch and Memeverarity (also WA trash) atleast
>>68255552
Mark Craig is 10x worse than basedBoland
Boland is quite literally at the same level as Henry and some of the other backup NZ bowlers
>>68255856
>aping krazycivilservant
>trying this hard to force the WABA gimmick
The difference is that NZ has next to no spin options as opposed to the bottomless pit of good fast bowlers in Australia. Hesson has made some mistakes but he's also made quality selections that Marsh has never done (Grant Elliott, Mitchell Santner, WT20 team selection etc).
Fucking jackass.
Mustafizz is very great king of the cricket worlad..he is very dauntless
>>68256860
>that Marsh has never done
SEEEEEEEEEEETHING fucking casual detected. Rod Marsh is the best Australian selector in decades, he is a better selector than Pisson and has made some great calls including
>retaining GOATges when every man and his dog wanted his head after the Ashes
>giving Khawaja a call-up despite coming off injury his Shield record being so-so
>picking Burns as the new opener
>picking Zampa over all the other shitters like Boyce, >XD etc
>keeping faith in Best Marsh (the benefits of this decision WILL be revealed soon)
>as opposed to the bottomless pit of good fast bowlers in Australia
You couldn't be any more clueless if you tried. The four-frontline bowlers (Hazlewood, Starc, Pattinson, Cummins) are great but all are extremely injury prone. At literally no point in the last 5 years have more than 2 of them been fit to play Test cricket at the same time.
Beyond them the bowling is fairly mediocre. Jackson Bird played in Australia's most recent Test and he isnt better than any of Poo Peelands bowlers. Chadd Sayers was unironically in the squad.
Mark Craig playing Test cricket was a disgrace. Even if NZ had no other options (clearly they do, Santner and Sodhi are objectively better), you may aswell just pick an extra batsman or seamer because that idiot is a waste of oxygen. He is a club cricketer masquerading in a Test cap.
What's worse is that Hesson picked him over, and over and over again. And then AGAIN. Rod Marsh learns from his mistakes, Hesson clearly does not.
>>68259804
>getting this wound up
Imagine being such a loser that you feel compelled to defend every single person from your state.
Imagine actually spending your spare time as a student watching domestic boreblock games rather than making friends and getting laid.
Imagine being gatecuck.
>>68252985
You're an idiot. He's going to 5, where he should be.
>>68259804
You want to know how I can tell the only time you've ever seen Craig bowl is in matches against Australia?
ALL CONSPIRACY ABOHANI HARD CORE BCB OBSTRUCTING MUSTAFIZ THAT HE CAN NOT PLAY FOR MOHAMEDAN SPORTING CLUB .AS THEY HAVE TAKEN SHAHADAT FORCEFULLY FROM MOHAMEDAN SPORTING TENT AND SAME THEY HAVE TAKEN FORCEFULLY PRIMEBANK COACH NOT GIVING ANY NOTIFICATIONS TO PRIMEBANK TO SPOIL PRIMEBANK TEAM. NOW PLAYING WITH MUSTAFIZ THAT HE CAN NOT PLAY FOR MOHAMEDAN SPORTING CLUB .WHAT A GAME THEY WILL SPOIL THE DEVELOPMENT OF CRICKET IN BANGLADESH.
>>68260105
hi daniel
>>68260175
@ Md Aliakber Hossain AFTER fitness WHERE he WILL go. There are many ICC Rules. HE CAN ONLY GO AFTER GETTING CLEARENCE CERTIFICATE FROM HIS HOME CLUB MOHAMEDAN SPORTING CLUB THAT IS THE CLEAR ICC RULES NO WAY TO BYPASS IT.SO IT IS MOHAMEDAN SPORTING TO DECIDE WHETHER HE WILL GO OR NOT .
I'm from the future lads and Mendis is a GOAT
tired af
>>68259804
>there are """pundits""" that still don't rate marsh
>>68260287
me too
>>68260287
I had the best sleep I've had in years tbqh
>>68260301
he is LITERALLY the new Kallis
>>68260328
>>68260316
>>68260287
i got woken up by tradies at 6am
fuck tradies
Bought a new coat today lads
le meme arrows
>>68261081
>46 likes
Daniel on popular and influential watch.
>>68261076
I spent $330 on a second hand jacket then got an email an hour later saying that because of demand they're restocking them for $390
Really fucked up tbqh lads
This is the problem with Mitchell Marsh. His bowling isn't quite good enough to be a specialist bowler, and his batting isn't good enough to be a specialist batsman. You've already got Faulkner and Hastings who are better bowling allrounders, a third bowling allrounder in Marsh is unnecessary.
And in Tests, the top 6 batsmen have to justify their spot in the side on their batting alone. Marsh does not do that.
>>68261140
>Marsh is a bowling allrounder
>Faulkner and Hastings are better bowlers
PLEASE tell me this is from reddit
>>68261048
.
>>68261132
>$330
>second hand
Jesus lad why? You can get top quality brand new jackets for $200 if you time it right.
>>68261183
Fuck off krazykrejza we're not going to give (You)s to your stupid sport.
>>68261169
What's wrong with that? Faulkner and Hastings are literally specialist bowlers and better wicket-taking options.
Marsh is a holding bowler with a tailender's technique. You might as well have Peter Siddle bat at 6.
>>68261184
You LITERALLY cannot Daniel.
A $200 jacket is the upper end of low tier anywhere outside of Poo Peeland.
>>68261206
Faulkner and Hastings are literally worse bowlers and worse batsmen, especially post-world cup Faulkner.
Reminder Mitch Marsh singlehandedly won the second PP ODI, where he out-batted and out-bowled Hastings.
>>68261213
Alright. Sucks to live in your shitty country then lmao
Disappointed for root yesterday lads but he'll bounce back.
Come on you England BASES COOKIE
Might go to a Surrey t20 game next month.
It's either that or a Lord's tour.
>India have 13 (THIRTEEN) home tests this year
Ashwin on 300 wickets watch
>>68261477
Lords would probably be more interesting lad
is there a white Zimbabwean accent lads?
>>68261532
Yeah, I'll probably do that but I really wanted to see a proper t20 game.
I wanted to watch based Pakistan play in Lords but the tickets are insanely expensive.
>>68261548
>I wanted to watch based Pakistan play in Lords but the tickets are insanely expensive.
Only for poor cunts.
>>68261541
Just South African tbqh, though I think white Nambians have a slightly different accent because of the lack of afrikaans
>>68261541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC2xh8hufq8
What BBL team do you support /cric/?
>>68261563
t. Giles Clarke
>>68261581
>luckswing
>>68261581
Literally none of them. Anyone that claims """alliegence""" to a five year old meme team is an autist, especially ones with divides as arbitrary as the Sydney and Melbourne ones
apparently there's a Western Australian, South Australian and Victorian accent lads
>>68261597
>>68261607
>stop liking what I don't like
>>68261631
Back to the Fox News Facebook page lad
>>68261563
>spending 60 pounds for day 1 Lords tickets
>poor cunts
It's not worth it lad
I'll just go for the tour and maybe a Surrey game.
>>68261645
>60 pounds
Fuck me. Test tickets here are a quarter of that now. I feel bad for the poor bastards who bought tickets for this test series.
>>68261642
>muh secret club
>>68261657
I remember reading something about the London market being so inelastic that they can literally charge whatever they feel like and still sell tickets.
>>68261607
This
Same with IPL, but worse because half the teams vanish every two years and have pretty much no players born in the city they're representing
>>68261206
see >>68261241
Gatecunt is right, Marsh is a better bowler than both Fuckner and Hastings and is 5x the batsman that they are.
If there is one thing he knows about it is Australian domestic cricket. You cannot argue this.
Now quietly crawl back into your hobbit hovel.
>>68261571
Can Germans understand Dutch?
>>68261607
Sydney isn't arbitrary, you have the Eastern Subs team and the Western Subs team. Same as AFL and Soccer basically.
I wonder how long it will be until there are genuine "fans" of BBL teams in the same way there are for the football clubs. There's already plenty of kids who walk around wearing BBL jerseys in the summer.
>>68261657
Even the t20 game tickets are 25 pounds.
>>68261681
Not to mention the constant roster shuffling. The CPL, BBL and NatWest team model of tying them to the first class sides is the best.
I'm still amazed at how Indians can consider themselves a lifelong Pune fan or some shit.
>>68261657
>>68261698
>My SCG membership costs like $250 a year, I barely even go anymore.
JUST
I literally only keep it because it was a 15(fifteen) year waiting list to get on and I just don't want to lose it.
It would be far more cost effective if I cared about bogan jump, but alas
>>68261726
>got put on the MCG waiting list when I was born
>family moves out of Melbourne
>18 years later get offered a membership
>Mum declines without telling me
JUST
>paying more than $15 for a day of test cricket
lmoa
>>68261726
>15(fifteen) year waiting list
That's fucking insane.
>tfw will never live in a cricket country.
At least you have the chance to see live games.
>>68261744
>That's fucking insane.
Lad the Melbourne one's like double that
Voting Libs this year lads
>>68261750
I don't really go to sporting events so I wouldn't know tbẖ.
I've been Jersey and Nigeria play at least.
>>68261796
>Nigeria
Speaking of them, they've "disbanded" their team because they did so shit in the latest meme comp
>RESOLUTIONS BY THE FEDERATION
>That the Nigeria National Male Team (YELLOW GREENS) has been disbanded with immediate effect and the National Team Coach Mr Uthe Ogbimi has also been relieved of his duties.
>That the Federation is undertaking a rebuilding process of the National team where young players from under 19 with passion to wear the national colors will be introduced to the some existing players with experience who still have much to offer the country.
I dunno about you guys but watching the brief highlights that were posted of FB, these teams don't look bad. They're easily middle-tier club cricket, and miles better than even the best women cricketers. Not sure why but I expected them to all have retarded actions and be awkward and uncoached as fuck but they're all pretty orthodox. I'd be keen to see them play more.
>>68261704
CPL isn't like that, its privately owned which is already fucking it up
The Trinidad team is called "Trinbago Knight Riders" or something fucking retarded because the IPL team with the same name owns it.
But yeah BBL and NatWest teams are owned by the states and counties, respectively, so that degeneracy doesn't exist (yet).
>>68261739
>>Mum declines without telling me
I'd be SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETHING
>>68261744
Yeah it's a prestigious old mans club, also had to pay ~$1,500 to get in when I was offered membership.
Honestly though its worth it. Moore Park is a world-class facility. The old stands, Members & Ladies (which you always see on TV), are fucking awful but the new Bradman stand is fucking top-notch, those are the members areas. It also includes Allianz Stadium which is where they play Rugby and I always go to a few Tards games. Allianz is probably the 2nd best rectangular ground in the country after Suncorp.
>>68261750
yeah but the MCG is shit from a spectators pov
>>68261796
Sounds like a dire existence tbqh.
There's nothing quite like watching a test game with a large Australian, English, South African or Caribbean crowd. Indians are alright too, but Sri Lankans and the muslim nations are no fun allowed
>>68261830
attending cricket games is 100% about atmosphere. I unironically enjoy Indian crowds. The CWC semi with a 90% Indian crowd was a great experience
Mahela Jayawardene, the former Sri Lanka captain who sits on the ICC cricket committee, has confirmed that a recommendation has been made to reduce the margin of umpire's call on the Decision Review System (DRS) which would lead to more batsmen being given out lbw.
Speaking to ESPNcricinfo after the first day's play of the third Test at Lord's, Jayawardene, who attended the latest meeting last week after being appointed to the ICC cricket committee in May, revealed that the proposal is to reduce the margin by half. If the change is approved, only 25% of the ball would need to be hitting the stumps in order to overturn an on-field not out decision, instead of the current 50%.
>>68261822
based Daniel
how are Ghana and Uganda doing?
>>68261843
The problem with Indians is that they can be far too passionate about winning and will leave in sit in silence if things aren't going well. Conversely, English fans are at their best when they're getting belted, which is part of the reason I like them so much.
>>68261847
FINALLY
I think 10% would be optimal, but I'll take anything over this 50% bullshit
>>68261822
Associates aren't all that bad but coaching is usually the main barrier. I know a guy who went from Malaysia's domestic comp to Sydney first grade and he's doing fine.
>>68261823
Sounds fun tbẖ
>>68261830
Yeah, I probably won't get to watch a proper match anytime soon. I booked tickets for a Windies vs India game in that one tour where they left early.
Slugkush's posting quality has accelerated at a far higher rate than his running lads
>>68261886
Might be cheapish to fly over for the next Caribbean tour when you're in Canada tbqh
>>68261895
>accelerated at a far higher rate than his running lads
Delete this please
>>68261922
Possibly, I might not have the time then though.
>>68261726
>hey guys check out this humble bragging haha
Latham
Raval
Williamson
Taylor
Guptill
Watling
Santner
Sodhi
Henry
Southee
Wagner
>>68261997
look at this permamad virgin
might fly over to South Africa if they do end up hosting a 2018 meme cup lads
I'll just hide in Cape Town the whole time
>>68262020
>u mad bro? i showed him
>>68262029
why bother? there's one here in 2020 anyway?
if you just want to travel to Seth Efrica and watch some cricket at the same time, go during a real cricket tour
>India sending the literal Indian A side to play Zimbabwe
>Poo Peeland are unironically pulling out the big guns against the same team
>be me, nigger
>Indian friend invites me to play some cricket with the Indian student union
>Slinga Malinga lookin ass nigga bowls me some dumb ass fuck balls and I just pelt sixes
>Bowl all the Indian niggas out for golden ducks
Nice "sport" you've got here
>>68262037
seething >we don't get any GOAT20 cups with our babby grounds tbqh
people would unironically show up to the associates games as well
if the GOAT20 cup is after the BBL the attendance figures would take a hammering
>>68262043
I remember this post
>>68262043
>be me, nigger
>slinga malinga
>golden dicks
'no'
>>68262040
gotta pad those stats lad
>>68262051
I think timezones work against >you because they've played these things in shitholes like Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. When India come to Australia they always lobby the fuck out of CA to have maximum number of games in Poorth.
>>68262051
>if the GOAT20 cup is after the BBL the attendance figures would take a hammering
Poo Peeland will LITERALLY be in the BBL by then
>>68262058
We niggas are the only ones who play cricket in the US
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton_Cricket_Club
>>68262051
Nah, crowds were still strong for the India T20 games. The hardcore cricket autists that avoid the Big Bash show up for internationals alongside the women and children.
>>68262067
Didn't the BCCI refuse to play at the WACA in 2014 because they knew they'd be exposed?
>>68262090
>WACA road
>exposing anyone
kek
India would love to play a test at Perth for those broadcasting shekels. Last time they won a test in Australia was at Perth as well.
The WACA didn't get a test because it's a shithole and no one wants to watch cricket sitting under 40 degree heat with no shelter.
>>68262106
It wasn't a complete road back then.
Reminder >your bowlers were literally frothing at the mouth to get the opportunity to play there last year.
>>68262106
>The WACA didn't get a test because it's a shithole and no one wants to watch cricket sitting under 40 degree heat with no shelter.
This is a truthbomb and it WILL trigger gatebrick.
>>68262106
KEK.
India getting steamrolled in three days at Perth was LITERALLY one of the reasons for the pitch being flattened out
>>68262174
He is LITERALLY correct though. The WACA being shit is completely independent of the pitch and IS the reason the WACA didn't get a Test in '14. The fact they'd rather play infront of nobody in Brisbane says everything.
The WACA pitch is also shit now. Sydney's pitch has been restored, Poorth's has not.
>>68262019
Why dropping Boult over Southee? Southee's been the shitter one
Also I don't really think we need 2 spinners. I know Harare is pretty slow but it'd unironically be better just to treat it as an SA warm up game and try out all our quicks.
>>68262214
It's mostly due to venue size more than anything.
The pitch is shit now because after all the short tests held there CA told them to flatten it out. It hasn't fully recovered since they've still been using new clay and shit, and they've only recently changed over to the old stuff again.
The Gabba is literally the WORST stadium in Australia
>>68262283
based on what?
>>68262283
There's are shitholes in both Darwin and Cairns that hosted Bangladesh once and manage to be even worse
>Cow tattoo
Was at the deli today for lunch (turkey baguette) and I literally saw the doppelganger for Dale Steyn. The memories lads, the memories came flooding back, I didn't see a man before me but a failure, a handsome fucking failure. I felt like just snatching the food out of his hands just to get his reaction. I can't wait for South Africa to tour here again
>>68262300
what's there to do in darwin or cairns?
>>68262225
Southee's better on slow surfaces.
Boult is basically DUDE INSWING LMAO and that's about it.
>>68262300
They aren't really "stadiums" though.
>>68262225
Also it's stupid to treat Zimbabwe as a tryout for South Africa when we have a tour of India and Bongladesh coming up. Sure, if the bowlers are all different then play 4 quicks but they all literally bowl the same shit. Play 4 of them and you're basically playing with a bowling machine.
>>68262504
thats funny, because the last time I saw Boult play he was more DUDE 125KPH "CHIN MUSIC" LMAO
>>68262661
(You)
mfw da bear wins da centuryb owl
What happened to Faulkner lads?
I quite like Woakes actually. He gets a lot of shit for getting picked ahead of other people but he seems like a nice bloke who just hasn't been given enough shots to prove himself.
>>68263412
his FC batting average is 37 and bowling average is 25, he's clearly shown he deserves chances. he bowled well enough in the last test to get in the team ahead of finn now imo unless finn does really well this test and woakes goes to shit again. he probably balances the team well enough for >us to use moeen at 7 as well if we need to, someone with a first class average of 37 at 8 is pretty good
>>68263412
He made a good case for himself last game tbqh
>>68263457
And regardless of what actually happens, it's another nail in the Mark Wood coffin
>>68263554
I was thinking this but Finn's been a little bit off-colour. I originally thought Finn had killed Wood's chances of regaining an immediate spot but he hasn't done too well recently. Really depends on how Wood returns in terms of his pace.
I'm not really sure Woakes is better than Wood as a pure bowler though, and it's not as if England need any more batting.
>>68263554
he's ridiculously injury prone, he made his first class debut 5 years ago and he's only played 30 first class games, so he's averaging 5 a year. he's never going to be able to complete a full english test summer without damaging himself in some way
>>68263386
One trick pony and teams figured out how to neutralise his one trick
He needs to learn another trick or he will stay shit. I quite like him, think he could come again. Should play as a bowler alone in England for the 2019 CWC. Easy to forget he was still the 2nd best bowler after Hastings over the summer in boreDI's.
>>68263457
jack of all trades, master of nothing, exactly like Faulkner who I was just discussing
>>68263615
Wood looks like someone who is going to have a gorillion lower limb soft tissue injuries
t. someone who has had a gorillion lower limb soft tissue injuries
Wouldn't plan my future around him
>>68263615
With the state of cuckfield and compton, they do need the tail length tbqh.
Once the post-manlet middle order is sorted, you'd be right though.
Alright England XI vs Pakistan assuming Stokes is fit again
Cook
Hales
Root
Borthwick
Bairstow
Cuckfield, but could replace him too if we're being harsh
Stokes
Ali
Broad
Finn
Anderson
I'm not a fan of sticking Mo at 8 but someone's got to go there, and Stokes has been demonstrably shit there in the past.
Cook
Hales
Vince(?)
Root
Bairstow (wk)
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Finn
Anderson
For the Pakistan series desu
>>68263718
>Hales
stopped reading right there
>>68263659
>he was still the 2nd best bowler after Hastings over the summer in boreDI's.
He was pretty average mate, you can only say that since he was bowling ball alongside Boland and Richardson, guys who are hardly on the top of the list for pyjama bowling
>>68263727
>5 pacers
Not really sure that's necessary, you'd be better off plucking some super green upcoming batsman and sticking him at 7 for no reason other than to get him some test experience. Dan Lawrence?
>>68263730
Not even gonna dignify this with a response
How about
Cook
Hales
Root
Borthwick
Bairstow
Stokes
Ali
Buttler (w)
Broad
Finn
Anderson
for memes
>>68263718
>>68263727
>Bairstow keeping
Can we PLEASE end this meme
Give Jos the nod, move Hales to three and either replace Compton or open with him again, although I'm only saying that last bit because I like the bloke
I'll do one since you are all clueless
Cook
Literally anyone but Fales. I don't know anything about Engish domestic cricket so I'll pick an Australian: Robson
Root
Bitchstow
Bell
Buttler (wk)
Strokes
Allah
Bread
Finn
Blanderson
>>68263659
woakes is a bit quicker than fuckner tho, which is why their willing to persist with him. he's moved the ball slightly later this year in the first game game supposedly rather than just from the arm and that means he's going to get a lot more wickets in tests than he has done. I think he could end up at 7 batting wise as well for england, he's a lot tighter technically than moeen and doesn't give his wicket away unlike ali does sometimes with his airy drives
>>68263801
>>68263807
>LE FUG LE ALEX FAILS XDXDXDXDDX
He is LITERALLY averaging 50 this series. I know you hate him with a raging passion but there is NO fucking way you can drop a guy who isn't really doing anything wrong. He's done better than both Root and Cook.
>>68263832
Whoops didn't mean to quote both
>>68263801
I kinda agree but is it really worth a full spot? They could use the surplus batsman to their advantage and just use Buttler as a specialist keeper, like I said here >>68263799
>it's an england's unnecessarily stacked tail bail out their top order episode
>>68263807
>ian bell back in the team
kek
they have two options with what they want to do selection wise now, as the selectors are generally conserative, like a long batting line up and tend to give batters two series before getting rid
>a:
Cook
Hales
Root
Borthwick
Vince
Bairstow
Stokes
Ali
Woakes/Finn
Broad
Anderson
>b:
Cook
Hales
Borthwick
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Finn
Anderson
they seem obsessed with keeping root at 4 even though your best batter should be at 3, blooding borthwick at 3 seems dumb when you can stick him at 4 rather than exposing him to the new ball in the first couple of overs potentially in his first test rather than a man averaging 50 and ranked #2 in batting in world cricket. for me stokes, woakes and ali in some order are good enough to bat 6,7,8 even if stokes is a bit shit or bust and goes long periods without a score, you've got to get him in the team somehow. also the lower you put stokes down the order the more and more he seem so implode so you've kinda got to put him higher
>Woakes' test average is now higher than Compton
>>68263817
pace isn't that relevant in England otherwise Bitchwide wouldn't have been complete trash like he was
Fuckner is, ironically, as good a bowler in English conditions as Hoakes. Fuckner averages like 23-24 in FC cricket because Tasmania were rolling out rank green seamers for a few years and he basically mastered bowling on those along with Jackson Bird. But Fuckner isn't even considered for Test selection because he lacks any outstanding skill that would make him a threat at Test level (be it pace, height/bounce, control over swing/seam). Woakes falls into the same category imo.
Woakes is quickish in the low 140's the last time I saw him but the ball coming out of the hand doesn't do much.
That all said, I'd pick Woakes ahead of Blanderson in Australia in a heartbeat
>>68263863
it's been like this for ages now, used to be even more fun when broad as an actual batter and swann used to come in and have a biff, guaranteed 100 runs in no time at all with non-shit prior at one end and one of those two at the other
>>68263850
It is when Bairstow ruins big wickets like ABDV and Mathews regularly and you're batting down to 8/9 anyway.
Bairstow is a good batsman and I'd much rather see him focus on that then be dragged down by a shared focus on keeping. I've said this before, but I still feel like Buttler will make it in test cricket, and I don't think the team is calling out for him to do it just yet anyway with the batting depth they have
>batviz
What is this sick new meme
Is this the new version of Caltex Techron Power Rating™?
>>68263953
Yeah. I would say it's worth keeping Bairstow on if it was any other team, but the fact that England HAVE to play an accomplished batsman at 8 pretty much no matter what means they could put Buttler there, no pressure if he fails.
>>68263947
I seethed every time Broad and the Muslim were at the crease in the ashes, since >we'd take ages to break the partnership
>>68263997
it's so annoying to watch a 8 or lower get runs I can only imagine having to field for 2+ sessions while an 8 scores big against you must feel like
>>68264076
>>68263997
runs from the tail have literally decided the last three Ashes series
2013: Bread (Nottingham)
2013/14: Haddin & Johnson (brisbane)
2015: Muslim & Bread
Why is TMS so fucking comfy
>>68264076
>Get Smith's wicket and proceed to rip through Australia's lower order in no time
>Ashton Agar scores 98 against you
I can't imagine the frustration
>>68264108
>2015: Muslim & Bread
Uh, that's a funny way of spelling "Australia's shithouse batting"
>>68264136
Cricket on the radio is GOAT and TMS is a top-tier broadcast. ABC is just as good.
I hope for the sake of the game every country has cricket radio as good as TMS and Grandstand
>ywn diversify your portfolio because you had too many derivatives in the technology sector and you don't want your long term future to be held in the whim of random economics with david gower
>>68264138
they got agar stumped on 5 as well and for some reason the 3rd umpire didnt give it out, it was clearly out I was fuming all day
>>68264145
>innings victory in one game
>Smith with a double century in another
:^)
>>68264138
>tfw everyone has forgotten about the true hero of that partnership
;_;
>>68263659
>/cric/ was unironically calling Faulkner the best allrounder in the world and a GOAT finisher 2 years ago
Kek.
>>68264175
You said "decided"
The ashes was decided with >60, m8. It was literally in the balance at the start of it, and 100% England's at the end.
>tfw Hughes was about to get summers of statpadding against India, New Zealand and Test Wendies
>tfw he would have been averaging 70 by now
JUST
>>68264199
he was, in pyjama. He is still the 2nd best allrounder in ODi cricket, after MMarsh
>>68263863
It actually makes me seethe Tbh
Fair play to them that they have the depth and resources to assemble such a team but you can't even enjoy a classic England collapse these days thanks to some chipper cunt like Bairstow or Moeen bailing them out
>>68264208
Hughes was Guptill-tier. This is an objective fact.
ONE meme test before the world figured him out does NOT make him a potential GOAT.
Cook
Warner
Kohli
Roof
Bairstow
Chandimal
Woakes
Amir
Yasir
Mustafizur Rahman
Hazlewood
>>68264206
And it wouldn't have been decided by >60 if it weren't for Cardiff
>>68264236
He was doing very well in first class when he was BTFOd
>>68263615
Wood will literally never play more than 3 tests in a row so Woakes and Finn will always be around.
England are just going to have to be wise about when they pick Wood. At this rate they might be best off keeping him as an Australia/SA specialist, with Woakes doing duty in home tests, Sri Lanka and New Zealand.
Next Ashes will be GOAT if England can find another bowler to help Bread and a decent spinner. If not it will be 5-0 again
>>68264236
Honestly, the quality of your bait is in the gutter. This is just a lazy and half assed effort.
Not often you see guys padding up to left arm spinners. Not often you see guys padding up at all anymore actually. I'm unironically feeling a Bairstow double here too lads, what think we?
>>68264238
Trump Hat Guy is that you?
how do we fix sri lankan cricket?
>>68264255
dont unironically respond to him. Khawaja had a Test average of like 30 back then and Smith had an average of like 23 (literally). We all know what would have happened if he had a run in the side against that garbage Australia faced over the summer
>>68264206
Reminder Kikeal Cuck literally cost them the Ashes by batting first at Edgbaston.
If he'd sent England in and had them at 90/5 it would have quickly scared them off the possibility of preparing a paddock at Trent Bridge. But he fell for the classic >LE BAT LE FIRST AGGRESSION XDXDXD meme and ruined his team's series and his own career in the process.
The Ashes loss and Phil Hughes' death were singlehandedly his own fault. Hughes was sick the day of his death and only played out of desperation. Hughes would have been selected anyways had Clarke not been such an edgy gloryhunting faggot.
>>68264260
It's not bait, it's the truth. For someone who played so much county cricket, averaging 32 after 26 tests is laughable.
>>68264285
>what is sample size
Shut the fuck up before I break your fingers and feed them to you. Khawaja and Smith had played less tests combined than Pooghes.
Try harder next time Zerobenis.
>>68264285
>Khawaja
What even happened there?
I had him pinned as a shield trundler, then he's suddenly scoring runs for fun in Australia A and across the three international formats.
England could beat any test team on earth. FACT.
>>68264301
Show some respect. Hughes' directly resulted in one of the highlights of New Zealand's golden age of cricket.
>it's a statscunt projects garbage and destroys his bullshit narrative episode
Was fun while it lasted, I'm out.
I also just lost another bet 2bh lads I'm getting bad
>>68264330
he went to the gym, bulked his shoulders and picked up a heavier bat. No joke, thats all that changed
>>68264332
What about me and 10 random cabbies?
>>68264353
His Twitter motto was literally guns get runs for a while. Might still be tbqh
>C&B meme wicket for that fat manlet
I'm unnecessarily annoyed
>thread over a day old
>"high profile" "test" on during this time
>struggling to reach 260 replies
KEK, nice "poomunity" you have here
>>68264345
>p-p-p-p-pls don't upstage me in my safe space!!! i'm in charge here!!!!
Kek, WALK faggot. Go on and run out of here, little man. Hope you go bankrupt at the bookies you scared little coward. I ruled /cric/ while you were still shitting your little poopy diapers.
Might start playing cricket again lads
>>68264330
I have absolutely no idea. I always thought he would comeback into the Test team (probably as an opener) but never in my wettest of dreams did I see him forcing (and he quite literally did) his way into the pyjama teams.
The obvious answer is that he has drastically expanded his range of strokes, especially against spin. I remember against Sri Lanka in 2011, Khawaja just couldn't play the spinners. He had no way of getting the ball away and was stuck on quite literally something like 3(40).
Now he is far more proactive. But he never exploded in Shield cricket which is why I didn't see his rise coming. The selectors just picked him for Aus A and he exploded at that level.
>>68264376
eng-pak is the main event of the summer
old trafford test match england will walk but the rest could go either way. book it
>>68264376
>this test
>high profile
>>68264385
Always worth it lad
I play with a bunch of overweight middle aged men and other weedy fucks like me, and I have a great time.
>>68264387
>Zerobenis trying this hard to avoid me
You are so pathetic. Someone comes along and steals your thunder and you lliterally can't handle being not being the centre of attention anymore.
I just KNOW you're going to use the classic Zerofaggot "I pity you" diatribe. I'm waiting for it. You passive agressive, narcissistic pretentious faggot.
Oh wait, you'll probably ignore this to retain the high ground while slowly dying inside.
>>68264398
KEK, I can't wait to see your reaction when Amir gets blocked from entering the country
>>68264417
I used to train twice a week but then I had to quit because of school. I might just start again in Canada.
>>68264429
his visa has already been proved
stoked to finally see woakes come good at test level, hes been absolute mustard at county level for years!
>>68264425
I have literally no idea who (you) are
You appear to be a statscunt-wannabe Poo Peeland permavirgin
PLEASE have sex
>>68264446
Not him, but Amir is going to flop hard, Pakistan will lose the series 4-0
>>68264454
pretentious faggot.
>>68264480
Is that supposed to be an insult?
>>68264487
pretentious faggot
>>68264498
yes, and?
>>68264468
nope, he was pretty much GOATing in the odis against new zealand this year, swinging it late as FUCK(as he always has done) quickly on a sixpence, though his figures weren't that great in the tests he will have more time to settle and will be a NIGHTMARE for england
book it
>>68264468
amir wont flop, but the paki batting almost certainly will
>>68264512
things that never happened: the post
well the part about shit figures is true
post bowlers literally better than Amir
Guns get the Runs Inc.
>>68264548
hazlewood is the only one perhaps on par, but he'll do better in england than hazlewood's shitshow last time around
>>68264576
16 wickets at 25 isn't too bad for your first england tour Tbh
>>68264590
sharma has been pretty elite last years LOL
>>68264590
>made Ponting cry as a teenager
>literal poo no more than three years later
>>68264611
>16 wickets over 5 tests
amir will have bettered that by the time 2nd test is up
>Bairstow neds 15 more runs to have scored more than Root, Vince and Compton combined this series
Root = Old and busted
Bairstow = New hotness
i hear suicidal depression runs in the family ;(
>>68264632
>Hazlewood sucked in the Ashes
I love this meme.
Starc and Johnson were far worse.
>>68264680
he was just so I N E F F E C T I V E
taking a handful of wickets and trundling it on a good length at a low economy rate counts as a poor series
>>68264680
None of the bowling was bad from either side.
Hazlewood was more wayward than he should have been, Johnson showed glimmers of his past form from time to time and Starc was generally quite good and better than Hazlewood. Lyon also bowled well.
Bairs is God.
>>68264733
starc averaged over 30 lmao
over 5 tests in england
let that sink in
>>68264733
>None of the bowling was bad from either side.
Yeah, pretty much. Starc had a couple of wayward spells but not to the extent of being abhorrently bad. I'd say the fact that England scored so quickly made it look worse than it actually was.
>>68264724
>trundling it on a good length at a low economy rate
McGrath.
>>68264775
>McGrath
got people out
>the dirt was used to dry my fingers
>>68264803
that black guy in the back holy shit
>>68264803
>there was no money transferred to my account
>england in the 90s
absolute comedy gold
Channel 9 have a lot to learn from Sky. I'd kill to have their lunch break coverage over Taylor going fishing in an exotic location every fucking game.
yh we were shit but we SORTED IT OUT cause thats we do, since the 2005 ashes we've been all things considered the most consistently good and tough to beat side, competing in all corners of the world
and hese days there is simply no breaks on this england stomping machine. an elite modern sporting outfit full of sexy, tall, and well-built men
>statpadding against Shit Lanka at home
is Bitchstow a Poolander in disguise?
>>68264962
uh no, at literally no point in the past four decades has England been the best team in the World
>1975-1995: West Indies
>1995-2007: Australia
>2008-2015: South Africa
>2016-: Australia
Literally when was the last time England were the best team in the world? The 50's during Australia's post Invincibles hangover?
Based camera guy spotting out milfs
>>68265408
2011-2013. Literally.
>>68265493
Lol no. That team was shredded, at home, as soon as they ran into South Africa.
>>68265520
Before that happened they shredded Australia and India home and away, amongst others.
They were ranked #1 in the world for a period. You are literally fucking wrong when you say they've not been best in the world for four decades.
What do you reckon Sri Lanka will get in their 1st innings lads?
>>68265408
i said that overall since the 2005 ashes we been the best side, that's all
>won in india
>won an ashes away
>fked everybody's shit up at home except south africa,who themselves have lost to australia a few times in that time
>>68265493
Nope, in a 3 year period the only test i can remember SA losing was this one:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-australia-2011/engine/match/514030.html
Not to mention the fact we beat england 2:0 in england in 2012
>>68265568
Just under 200
I'd argue England have been the best opposition/most consistant since 2003, i wouldn't say at any point theyve had dominance like >>68265408 shows
but england have consistently been the 2nd best side for a decade and a half
>>68265550
Big whoop. So did South Africa.
I said that they were not the best team in the world, not that Australia and India were better than them, they weren't.
South Africa was better than England during that entire period. That is irrefutable to anyone with even the slightest hint of objectivity
>>68265573
Are you fucking serious? England LITERALLY got 5-0'd in that period, TWICE. South Africa achieved everything England did and then some without the abject humiliations inbetween.
LGTSS
>""""""""""""""""""best"""""""""""""""""" team in the world
>>68265643
irrelevant, England LITERALLY did not hold onto that ranking for even 1(ONE) series. Straight after they got it (beating India at home in 2011) they were swept by Pakistan and dropped down again
its nothing more than a statistical anomaly because England play for more Tests than South Africa
>>68265620
>icc rankings
have always been a joke, we have this discussion on here all the time, until you have a standardised system where everyone plays the same number of matches then its farcical
SA went a decade without losing a series away from home and during that period the only team to win in SA was Australia (who were then losing to SA in Aus)
>>68265621
sums it up better than i did
>>68265665
They beat West Indies at home while ranked #1. I know that's nothing to brag about, but you're literally fucking wrong yet again.
And that's a nice bit of padding for Bairstow
>>68265690
And losing to Australia at home is forgivable because of the similarity of conditions
>>68265722
In any case, South Africa were not humiliated by Australia. Each time they were beat it was extremely close.
Meanwhile England were abjectly disgraced numerous times
>>68265665
THIS
>>68265722
indeed, and the fact both teams massively up their game when they play each other, regardless of how strong the sides are...
Example being the triwizard tournament in the windies at the moment :)
>>68265744
the new seasons of Sherlock any good? I've only watched the first one
>>68265621
yh well i dont really care SA cricket is RIP and england are continuing a steady march to total domination
>>68265741
Australia were literally saved from a 5-0 in 2013 because of the weather.
england racking up 400 these days like it's 300
watch out
>>68265768
More of the same
Cricket is an ENGLISH game so ENGLISH conditions on ENGLISH pitches will always be the truest form of the sport. Matches played on meme wickets in the colonies will forever be irrelevant.
Therefore ENGLAND are the GOAT team and James Anderson is the GOAT bowler.
>>68265783
that was literally luck: the series
2015 was a much more comprehensive win. And neither of them compare to the utter dismantling that was 2013/14 when literally every single player except Bread and Stokes was emasculated and shamed
i unironically think kohli's india will reach unparalleled heights over the next few years
>>68265941
t. British Indian
>>68265817
Genuinely lost count of how many times >we have been 3 or more wickets down for less than 80 runs but then gone on to finish with more than 300 desu.
>>68265817
>>68265990
its almost like England play an ODI team: 3 specialist bowlers (one can tonk it a bit), 2 allrounders and the rest batsmen
which is funny because England is terrible at ODI cricket
ENGLAND GETTING BTFO
is this the highest SL opening partnership of the tour?
might put a cheeky 20 on sri lanka
>>68266063
>and no team has been dismissed for less than 350 at Lord's in three county matches so far this season
unironically, put a cheeky 5 on a draw
>>68265768
i dislike Cumberbatch as Sherlock, i find him far too pretentious and the plots attempt to be complex but end up coming across as illogical, still, its far better than elementary with lucy liu, that is absolute horse shit
>>68266019
historically sure but the last 12-18 months theyve become shit hot, beat the kiwis and pakistanis, narrowly lost to SA in Sa and Aus (world champs)
Theyve come on leaps and bounds, if they can find a decent spinner to replace rashid and maybe an extra seamer they will probs be #1
>>68266125
whats wrong with ratshit?
good odi spinner tbqh
how i reckon the english team will be voting in the referendum
cook-remain
hales-remain
compton- leave
root-leave
vince-leave
baitstow-remain
ali- remain LOL
broad-remain
finn-leave
anderson-leave
>>68266163
sent in my postal vote m8 - REMAIN
>>68266163
*bairstow-leave
>>68266061
not yet, its been:
10, 10, 10, 38 so far
karunaratne is first man out all 4 times, so thats worth a cheeky bet
>>68266173
fuck you
>>68266148
his bowling average is in the mid 40s in ODI cricket and his economy is at 6, this would be fine if he was scoring big runs but he averages <25 with the bat so hes basically gunna get you 1-60 every game and thats essentially worthless, may as well have ali and root bowl those 10 and pick an extra batsmen
>>68266185
im going to hunt you down if this doesnt win
thats my college fund right there
>>68266206
:^)
>>68266163
>cuckfield-leave
Yeah right.Whole team is remain for sure.
>>68266243
YEAH! Good on you!
Those 16.2 dollars are gunna feel crisp as fuck later!
>average remain voter
>>68266163
Hales is a new England lad, he'd vote leave. Basically all the public school old boys would vote remain.
how is /cric/ voting and why?
>>68265408
>2016-: Australia
England beat South Africa on home turf in 2016, Australia beat WI and NZ.
Think I know who looks better rn
>>68266290
>SHUT UP
>>68266402
>current England team: failed to beat said West Indies and New Zealand teams
>current Australian team: literally undefeated
>>68266280
my wifes son wont be eating tomorrow if that doesnt win
i hope that's on your consciousness
>>68266369
Voting Leave, there are 3 industries down here, fishing, farming and tourism
Common fisheries policy ruined fishing down here
Common agricultural policy, while it does give subs to some farms, it involves a fuck ton of red tape and dictates what can be grown, sold, to who, when, etc, basically makes the whole process of farming nanny-state nonsense, not to mention it leads to poverty outside of the eu thus reducing export options
tourism relies heavily on weather (uncontrollable) and economies, and the eu has managed to obliterate every economy in Europe that isnt called Germany
Also i think its bullshit that we are turning away people from the former commonwealth (aussies, kiwis, canucks, indians, saffers, etc) because we need to get net migration down but will happily let in any unskilled, untrained and unqualified twat from Romania simply because their government happened to sell their country out to the eu
All this Brexit talk made me check the polls. it's basically neck and neck (which means you KNOW the jews will rig it)
Why are young ""people"" so blue-pilled? (literally). I'm in that age bracket and its just fucking embarrassing. What is wrong with >our generation?
>>68266369
Remain because i'm getting a job in the banking sector and I quite like being paid lots to do little
>>68266466
>Also i think its bullshit that we are turning away people from the former commonwealth (aussies, kiwis, canucks
You were making sense right up until...
>indians, saffers, etc
ABORT ABORT ABORT
>>68266519
its only the chavs who want out, apparently
makes sense since it is them competing for unqualified positions with the hordes of slavshits and gypsies that come from the EU
>>68266502
because the education sector has been completely taken over by the far left, which is why everyone at that age is pro-eu, votes labour/green, is pro socialism, pro trade unions etc
Its been a long slow process where anyone who is centrist or right of centre has been pushed out and replaced with people who are prepared to push the liberal narrative, this leads to a whole generation of youths being indoctrinated...
Look how many young people support corbyn and sanders, theres a reason labour want the voting age reduced from 18 to 16
not to mention liberals tend to censor everything that disagrees with them i.e safe space and no platform policies, the myth of hate speech
>>68266532
Indians are sound as fuck when they come over, its the Pakistanis who are the problems
HINDUS YES
MUSLIMS NO
And we all know by now that only white south Africans are the ones who go travelling, kaffirs are too busy getting aids, shooting each other and blaming Rhodes/de klerk for their problems
>>68266502
Because they don't want to get fucked by China
Anyone that votes leave is a monumental retard.
>Thinking there will be any jobs left with 5-10% trade barriers to export.
>Having any money left when all your bills go up by the same 5-10%.
Only the lower class with zero knowledge of macroeconomics would vote leave.
>>68266519
That's pretty much what I'd lean towards 2bh. From what I hear the global financial sector would take an absolute beating from Brexit.
>>68266723
Everyone would leave and go to Germany.
>>68266620
>theres a reason labour want the voting age reduced from 18 to 16
I honestly would be quite happy if the voting age was raised to 25, even though it would mean I can't vote again for a few years
You are generally correct except for the conspiracy theory part. It's not so much a leftist agenda to push out opposing viewpoints, rather its the institution itself that creates the phenomenon. Academics have a vested interest in the nanny-state, it is the nanny-state afterall that funds them. They exist in a world where they are incubated from the problems that exist in reality. They aren't competing with anyone for their jobs. If they miss deadlines there aren't company-crippling consequences. This enables them to be idealists, not realists.
Most leftists are "good" people insofar they are altruists. But there is a saying, scratch an altruist and a hypocrite will bleed. That, in a nutshell, is the left.
>>68266656
>HINDUS YES
>MUSLIMS NO
Jynn on queen of /cric/ watch
>>68266719
>the gdp will rise by 1% so i'm going to continue to support globalisation and the surrendering of our sovereignty
fuck off you jew
>>68266466
>Also i think its bullshit that we are turning away people from the former commonwealth
This is pretty much why I wanted to change the flag 2bh
Ain't no country of MINE gonna have a cuckstamp of a country that cares more about Slavs than us. You can literally be a Commonwealth citizen and get deported from the UK for not earning >35k pounds
>>68266752
Why would they do that?
>>68266502
>LE WRONG GENERASHUN XD
kys Saxon
>>68266502
because they literally see the idea of an independent Britain as racist and the MORE immigrants we have the better, also they hear that voting remain is the cuck/lefty thing to do so they search hard for any justification they possibly can for the dilution of our british identiity
you just couldn't write this shit
>>68266719
Scotsman detected
>>68266777
indeed, i dont think we should be giving the vote to people who are 1) yet to even sit their GCSE's and 2) have absolutely 0 real world experience as their entire life has been in compulsory education and theyve been too young to work in 90% of jobs
The issue ive got with the left are the sjws and the union leaders, theyre the ones who end up pushing for propaganda, censorship, bans, protests and strikes
There is literally no representation from conservatives or ukip voters in any student union, unis should be bastions of free speech and open debate :/
>bairstow
fuck sake that was karunaratne as well
Is there anymore more comfy than watching test cricket all day and reading some Camus?
Only English cricketer I can see voting leave is Stokesy.
>>68266777
You can be 40 and still be absolutely clueless about politics and government affairs.
Rather than increasing age limits I unironically think citizens should undergo some form of politcal awareness test to determine their eligibility to vote.
You can whinge about it trampling on the rights of democracy but it's really not that hard to at least read the news.
>>68266961
this.
Past cricketers: Botham, Boycott, Flintoff
Is Bairstow crying again?
>>68266912
This.
It's really sad situation.
>>68266924
>Scotland are going to cuck the UK out of independence after cucking themselves out of independence
>Literally an entire country of DOUBLE cucks
>literally wearing heels
>>68267072
>deny themselves freedom to doom Britain to an eternity of EU serfdom
Absolutely based. What is Scotland's endgame?
>>68266997
what about only citizens can vote, but you have to earn citizenship, i would like to know more!
>>68266886
absolutely absurd, i dont think 99% of people in the west country earn that much aha, immigration needs a major overhaul
>>68266956
>>bairstow
>fuck sake that was karunaratne as well
Welp, guess the wifes son will be queuing outside the Salvos tomorrow
>>68266997
t. daniel
t. literal student
t. never done an honest days work in his life
t. only ever worked for his mum
>You can be 40 and still be absolutely clueless about politics and government affairs.
That's a truism. But if you don't think age and experience improves the odds of a voter making an informed decision, you are a special level of idiot.
>Rather than increasing age limits I unironically think citizens should undergo some form of politcal awareness test to determine their eligibility to vote.
Heh, I kind of see the merits but then it's no longer a democracy, but an elitist oligarchy. Just a rehashed version of the days when only male landowners could vote.
>>68266847
>Not understanding GDP
Please cripple my country so you can rule the wreckage.
>>68266888
European bonds are big money.
>>68266719
>macroeconomics
I love how this justification is used by people. macroeconomics doesn't effect the majority of the population in any way in their lives, the standard reason for voting for a party 'for the economy' won't have any tangible real world effect for most people, whereas voting for a party that represents what you want from the country would. I'm going to be working in the banking sector, ergo I want to stay to keep the job, I couldn't care less about macro economics truthfully
>effect
>>68266956
Why should the rich vote then? They have zero 'real world' experience in their entire life.
The moment you start to pay taxes you should be eligible to decide who should spend it.
>voting to remain in merkel's socialist bureaucracy
good goyim
>>68267159
doesn't Israel still have national service?
You could have a system whereby anyone can vote for any party but only if theyve finished school (gcses minimum) and completed 2 years of national service (unless they have alternates) i think south korea reduces your national service to 6 weeks if you go to the olympics
>>68267277
>National service.
Please fuck off. It's not the 60s, think of the cost to absolutely zero benefit.
>>68267220
You wouldn't care less if the financial sector saw a year of shrinking profits and had to start hiring less people and cutting the fat? Come the fuck on you idiot, macroeconomic conditions affect us all, or was the recessions just peaches and cream for everybody?
>>68267145
>what about only citizens can vote
Wait, don't you guys have this?
>>68267159
Not daniel and not a student (anymore).
> But if you don't think age and experience improves the odds of a voter making an informed decision
Not denying this, but I've done my fair share of work in polling to know people of all ends of the age spectrum are one-eyed clueless idiots when it comes to politics, only voting to advance their own interests without thinking of the repercussions.
There is nothing wrong with an oligarchy.
>>68267261
depends on what you are deeming as rich, successful businessmen/women would have real world experience however people who inherit wealth (royalty/paris Hilton etc) probably dont
citizenship is probably the way to go
this made-up economics bullshit is just lefty justification for hastening the swarm of foreigners into europe
pls ignore those posts
>real world experience
literally a meaningless buzzword that doesn't even mean anything
>>68266912
A more independent Britain is a weak Britain. This is the empire where the sun never sets anymore. The UK individually is pretty powerless. You wouldn't just be losing the rest of Europe as an ally and as a trading bloc, but you'd be weakening your relations with the united states as well. The world is becoming more and more interconnected, that as the whole reason the European union was created. If you don't see how an independent Britain is a weak Britain you're an idiot.
>>68267366
into the uk *
>>68267323
there's more important things than not working for a year at most, i'm a graduate from an analytical subject with work experience and can get a job in something random if need be, but if I had to choose between slightly better macroeconomic conditions and more investment in the NHS, which i've had to rely on at times due to poor health I would choose the NHS investment every time. people seem detatched from situations that could really help them and choose to vote for 'the economy' instead
>>68267277
UK isn;t surrounded with neighbours that want to wipe it off the map like Israel (well, except for maybe Ireland)
see >>68267310
National service is a nice idea but a logistical nightmare.There;s no need for it.
>>68267277
Not a fan of the draft, its a massive burden on the workforce and individual liberties. I prefer the current system where BSA pays for our defence. The volunteer military is far more effective in any case.
The thing about your highschool suggestion though is; if you do that you basically exclude every tradie ever from voting. That could be extremely dangerous. Certainly in Australia, lots of tradies vote conservative. That would unironically end up giving academics even more influence.
>>68267220
>>68267246
Just IMAGINE being corrected in your mother tongue by a foreigner. KEK.
>>68267220
>Macroeconomics does not affect people
How are there people as stupid as this still living. Macroeconomics affects everyone.
>>68267397
>The world is becoming more and more interconnected
>>68267366
How can you honestly not understand the very basics of international trade? Have a nice time with your demolished economy you dumb ukip fuck
>>68267426
>foreigner
newcunt
>>68267325
>Not daniel and not a student (anymore).
That's okay, I didn't actually think you were.
But he will see the post and it WILL make him seethe. But he won't be able to respond directly atleast because of his laughable charade.
>There is nothing wrong with an oligarchy.
t. Tony Abbott
>>68267466
i'm not that english retard living in hamburg
>he's a nationalist populist
>>68267439
No never mind I'm sorry I'm sure the UK will be able to negotiate some great trade deals with China when they have literally no other nation on their side.
>>68267389
t. student
t. NEET
>>68267466
no you, he is German
>>68267412
>there's more important things than not working for a year at most
Tell that to a family of 4 or a single mother/father. Stop being a retard and realise that less jobs = bad.
It leads to less tax in the future, lower profits for companies due to less sales, lower investment leading to lower potential growth in the future.
>>68267441
>mfw your '''currency''' is literally worth less than the aussie dollar now
KEK please tell me about our economic problems pierre
>mention brexit
>brit/cric/ comes alive for the first time in a year
we ought to do this more often lads
>>68267578
kek, this thread is shit though
>>68267532
jidf please fuck off
uk has enough immigrants already. i'll do anything to lessen the flow and disassociate with the rest of euRAPE. that is the bottom line.
>>68267602
t. 17 year old
>>68267549
rude
our dollar was worth more than the USD like 18 months ago
>tfw it is Poo Peeland tier now
Welp, hope the housing bubble is worth it, jews.
>>68267526
then please explain what it means
>>68267602
t. 17 year old
>>68267617
>muh rape
>muh terrorism
>muh jobs
Nationalism is a pillar of the past and if YOU do not see that borderless globalism is the future, YOU are the one who stands to be left behind.
>>68267693
6/10
nearly made me mad
>>68267637
>>68267683
I am sorry but I would have to ask you to delete these comments, 'friends'.
>>68267617
More people come in outside the EU than within it.
Leaving the EU will stop nothing.
>>68267310
>>68267417
>>68267325
>>68267426
It doesn't have to necessarily be military service, there are more than 1 way that you can serve your country, at least that way we could have people who contribute to their country having the say on the direction it takes rather than the situation we have now where lazy cunts who outright refuse to work, claim benefits and then vote for the party that keeps the welfare state going
>>68267693
>lets destroy western civilisation but keep israel homogeneous and pure
good goy
>>68267693
i dont know if you are statscunt or AMS or whoever else, but i am loving this gimmick
>>68267675
observed experiences provide context
you cannot talk abstractly about phenomenon as complex as politics, the economy etc and truly understand the meaning of those processes. Unless you have actually witnessed and understand the implications of what you are talking about, anything you say is purely academic
>>68267773
The simplest way to serve is taxes. So would you prefer that only taxpaying citizens get a vote?
BTW, what's the voting requirement for Brexit? Can anyone do it or just British citizens?
>>68267693
the issue is borderless, people are fine with the movement of goods and services and are generally fine with the movement of people provided they are filling gaps in the work force etc
the problem arises when we have situations like the migrant crisis where you have millions looking to come in for nothing more than benefits and an easy life, they are almost all unqualified, untrained and unskilled, they dont speak the language of the nation state, or any state in the eu for that matter, and we have no idea what criminal past they have or links to extremism...
Meanwhile as said above, commonwealth citizens have to earn 35k or its byebye
>>68267769
yes because they'll easier entry into the uk from the EU duh brain
>>68267773
This post is so wrong I'm not even going to argue it.
Basically take everything you said, and realise it is all false.
>>68267860
So why do more people come from outside the EU? If it's so much easier for EU migrants to come in.
wow /cric/ is completely cucked
they support merkel's literal rape of europe
>>68267845
Did you miss Cameron's whole speech about benefits?
They cannot claim ANY benefits until they have been working for 3 months (so no unemployment benefit) and do not have full access to the benefits system for 10 years.
>>68267816
>this projection
I fucking despise Israel and its retarded victim complex nationalism and insistence on >muh 1967 borders is exactly what I'm talking about.
YOU are stuck in this echochamber narrative that equates ANY proactive, progressive and practical thinker to being a Marxist, Sanders voting BBC slurping cuckold, rather than someone who lives the ideal line of not being tied to any traditional philosophical constant. Globalisation will ensure the extinction of ALL weaklings who fail to adapt accordingly. Economic Darwinism WILL be the future in 300 years and YOU and YOUR arbitrary borders cant do anything about it.
>>68267845
>and are generally fine with the movement of people
>the problem arises when we have situations like the migrant crisis
two different things. One is the movement of labour. The other is an invasion. An invasion that Europe has decisively lost due to the absence of a coherent and effective border security plan.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/675535/EU-referendum-Brexit-Brussels-blasted-Orwellian-crackdown-online-criticism-UKIP
>actually voting remain
what the fuck is wrong with you, you sick fucks. you must be all be muslim or something
>>68267941
lets do this
http://www.strawpoll.me/10447404
http://www.strawpoll.me/10447404
http://www.strawpoll.me/10447404
>>68267984
>Reading the Express
There's your error. Please drink bleach.
>>68267954
>and YOU and YOUR arbitrary borders
New Zealand annexation when?
>>68267867
What is false?
That there are more ways to serve your country than being a military personnel
or that its morally wrong that individuals who contribute nothing to a society are given the opportunity to shape it?
>>68268014
it's a legit story
>>68267954
Why don't you just surrender your sovereignty to Australia?
It's a pointless border, you guys would be far better together.
>>68267954
no it will ensure the islamification of eurape. their religion will always win against people who stand for nothing ie. globalism and clumsily 'bringing everyone together'
>>68268076
no point, they can already come (and boy they do) and go as they please
there's no restrictions on trade or anything either. Poo Peeland is basically a de facto state
>>68268040
Thinking 2 years of national service 'serves your country' other than being a drain on the taxpayers for zero gain.
People that claim benefits (and other lower income households) don't vote in high numbers. Especially compared to middle class and pensioners. So they do not shape the country.
>>68268114
based Turnbull
>>68268014
It's legit.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/libe/dv/11_revframework_statute_/11_revframework_statute_en.pdf
>Take concrete action to combat intolerance, in particular with a
view to eliminating racism, colour bias, ethnic discrimination,
religious intolerance, totalitarian ideologies, xenophobia, anti-Semitism,
anti-feminism and homophobia.
>THE SHEER FUCKING IRONY OF TOTALITARIAN IDEOLOGIES BEING ON THERE
>>68268132
remain campaigners literally cannot defend this
>>68268104
>muh Islam
There has not been one great civilization in the history of mankind that has not benefited and actively engaged in foreign culture and trade.
>>68268132
You do know the UK literally has the exact same law against online speech.
>>68267549
If the value of the dollar was any indication of economic health than the UK must have the strongest economy in the g7
>>68268117
It works well in the neutral countries; Finland, Norway, Austria and Switzerland.
>>68268132
>The Government shall ensure that:
>(a) Schools, from the primary level upwards, will introduce courses encouraging students to accept diversity and promoting a climate of tolerance as regards the qualities and cultures of others.
>The Government shall ensure that public broadcasting (television and radio) stations will devote a prescribed percentage of their programmes to promoting a climate of tolerance, as per Section 8(f)
'Orwellian' is an understatement.
why is Big Dave shilling Remain if his own party wants Leave?
>>68268178
yeah and now pretty much every predominantly islamic country in the world is a fucking hellhole
but hey yeah lets let zillions of them swarm all over the place cause they're just so keeping with the liberal and open minded values of cucks like you
>>68268223
Make sure to renew your TV license, goy
>>68267942
wasn't it already exposed though that claiming youre self-employed completely made camerons reforms redundant and the eu has already told him his no benefits for 4 years plan wont be happening :/
>>68267956
very true, but i think weve got to the point where the term immigration has become totally synonymous with the migrant crisis and not movement of labour :(
As i said, id be happy with an aussie system, if you have the skills we need, what does it matter where you are from
>>68268237
A citizen's true worth is determined by his contribution to society, not his values.
I'd much rather have a highly intelligent Muslim neurosurgeon work in my country while simultaneously beating his wife every night than allow some good-hearted but unqualified Welshman who can only contribute unskilled labour.
Morality is subjective, but you know what's objective? Progress.
>>68268243
stop bullying him or i will report you
>2 reviews getting cucked by umpire's call
Fuck me lads this 25% thing needs to happen as soon as possible
>>68268298
agree with this
>>68268237
this, we should try and list how many muslim countries aren't currently shitholes at one level or another...
UAE seems fairly ok, maybe the former soviet stans?
>>68268356
>agree with this
t. victim of domestic violence suffering from Stockholm syndrome
Elite truthbomb:
>there is nothing inherently wrong with muslims
>the majority are a product of their objectively shit society
>their objectively shit society is not entirely the result of Islam. See: Sri Lanka
>execute all islamaphobes
>>68268356
Jordan is alright
hey lads, I've read Ayn Rand too
>>68268384
no shit, go to Western Sydney and you tell me if there is a difference between the mudslime lebs and the catholic lebs
>>68268404
>go to Western Sydney
Nty
>>68268132
That's it. If we end up remaining, I'm going to be gay.
Then I'll send anyone I don't like to a tolerance camp.
fun fact: there have been (by far) more terrorist attacks in Australia by Christians than Muslims
same thing im sure in the UK with the IRA
>>68268384
it's a large part the fault of islam, otherwise why would every muslim country be so shit
sri lanka doesn't commit the same human rights abuses and go around blowing people up like muslims do
how much are sri lanka going to win by
>>68268459
Because neither have a big Islamic population
>>68268482
Sri Lanka literally invented the suicide bomb
>>68268596
ignore that guy he's literally just advocating the self-destruction of the west and its values in some big globalist melting point
i mean it probably will happen anyway but i'm still gonna try and prevent it as best i can
>>68268482
>sri lanka doesn't commit the same human rights abuses and go around blowing people up like muslims do
KEK
You know absolutely nothing.
Their economic means play a very, very big part in their condition. Theres very little to build an economy off unless you're sitting on oil or something (See: UAE and Oman, objectively decent places with money in them).
There's plenty of non-Islamic countries in similar positions that are also just as fucked.
>>68268655
muslims are the one's doing all the suicide bombing now m8
inb4 you highlight some exception that proves the rule
>>68268482
YOU are literary a child that believes everything YOU read on /pol/ and is ignorant of the world around YOU
>>68268482
you're confusing correlation and causation
yes those countries are shit and yes they are muslim. but they are not shit because they are islamic
the entirety of central and south america are ex-Western Christian colonies and all are shitholes, no exceptions. Half of Africa is Christian. Again, shithole.
As for why the middle-eastern countries are shitholes. Well, your lot had a fair bit to do with that (see: Sykes-Picot). Stretching further back into history I am no expert but the Mongols rekt them pretty bad
Islam is the problem, in its truist forms, its completely incompatible with western values
>being a woman in islam
no thanks muhammad
>>68268718
>UAE AND Oman
they're oppressive hellholes that have money literally ONLY because of oil. without oil they would all be like yemen
you know absolutely nothing
>>68268746
Africa.
They blow themselves up and literally eat Muslims in the name of Jesus, completely unironically
>>68268746
Wogs were LITERALLY committing terrorist attacks in Australia for DECADES. Those are Christian Europeans, and they (Croatians) were targeting and bombing their fellow shitskins. Wogs are the real niggers.
That is not an exception. That IS the rule. By contrast, there have been 2(two) islamic terrorist attacks. It's no comparison
>>68268801
That's LITERALLY what I said, dumbass.
If England was an arid wasteland without any natural resources, would the county be half decent?
>>68268753
no, i'm not
they're all shit. all islamic countries are shit and islam has a huge part to play in that. you'd find that out for yourself too if you went to one of these countries and got beheaded for prepping the bull.
>>68268901
Nice work proving everything in his post
>>68268843
yeah well they're not anymore so why would i care?
Islam
>>68268901
>and got beheaded for prepping the bull.
lol'd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-state_terrorist_incidents
a gripping read!
>religion of peace
>peace is achieved by wiping out everyone
>>68268893
no, but with a lack of islam it wouldn't be yemen shit, really what is your point?
>>68268482
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War
>>68269038
It would though, I guarantee it.
Who /watchingthetestmatch/ here?
>>68268746
Japan
>>68269048
islam is strikingly poisonous on a large and worldwide scale
this typical libtard braindead logic of picking out some other culture or religion that has done some bad shit is simply NOT AN ARGUMENT
>>68267532
I couldn't care less about them truthfully, I have enough money to survive not working for a couple of years. again with the calvinist view of top down view, thinking everyone should adopt it. I'm all for it as long as I don't have to choose between bettering the economy, which benefits a few, and bettering conditions for myself. I want to stay in the EU because of myself primarily, and anyone taking the view that 'the economy' is the thing to think about mainly when voting is being deluded
NEW THREAD
>>68269251
>>68269251
>>68269251
>>68269157
In isolation, no. What is true is that Sri Lanka is near a lot of the Muslim countries and suffers from the same socio-economic problems of Islamic regions.
What I'm saying is that these people are a product of the society they live in and the problems it faces, and those problems are not entirely due to Islam
>>68257491
neck yourself
>>68260203
He already has consent from Mohammedan.It's up to the board to decide whether he will play or not.
>>68269256
You're right but the influence of Islam(or any other religion) in state policies and everyday life doesn't help either
