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Previous thread: >>68185128
Thread theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdOzgKC9N-A
NEWS:
>Kimbo is kill
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/06/bellator-heavyweight-ratings-king-kimbo-slice-dead-at-42
>Namajunas-Kowalkiewicz added to UFC 201
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/06/rose-namajunas-meets-undefeated-karolina-kowalkiewicz-at-ufc-201-in-atlanta
>Brock Lesnar has only ever lost to his glass intestines
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/06/brock-lesnar-haunted-by-previous-ufc-stint-says-he-never-lost-to-an-opponent
>rags
He's noided in heaven now
;-;7
>>68190565
Reminder that Schaub is and always has been a bully
>>68190587
A very close friend of his died and he was emotional.
>>68190540
Why does anyone give a shit about Kimbo?
Literally not even UFC who-tier fighter. After getting his head bashed in by a gatekeeper at theUFC six years ago he has two fights in Lellator against a dinosaur and the fattest possible competitor they could find for him.
He looked like shit, has not managed to learn any ground game in a decade of fighting.
Good riddance, Kimbo Slice, you won't be missed by the MMA community.
>>68190610
People who care about Kimbo are the same people who get excited to watch Cops reruns on Spike
>>68190540
I hope hunt decimates lesnar's face to pieces
>>68190610
>>68190628
>>68190640
casuals leave
>>68190628
So... Your average MMA fan?
Should I listen to co main event podcast or do they just talk about helwani?
I told my girlfriend Kimbo died and she said "what, too much fried chicken?" What the fuck is happening.
Why aren't there any asmrtists that talk about UFC?
>>68190658
>>having a gf
kek
>>68190658
she's a keeper
>>68190648
KYS
>>68190587
Schaub is a good boy and is probably very upset right now, you should be ashamed of yourself.
>>68190640
We all do man, and he will. Lesnar will remember why he left July 9th.
>>68190773
>We all do man
nah
>>68190773
calling it now: Lesnar will win via TKO (stoppage due to strikes) after old fattie mark hunt gets taken down and is too weak to shake him off.
I know this will happen because HEEM thinks it wont, and HEEM is always wrong.
kimbo slice was the mohammed ali of beating up homeless people in a parking lot
>>68190800
Lol, cocky guy got what he asked for
>>68190808
How you can even bring yourself to make the comparison between Ali and Kimbo is beyond me. It's insulting.
I mean, one of them true legend who truly excelled beyond sport - literally changing black culture and the world for the better.
The other is a fucking stupid boxer from the 70s.
>>68190814
I'm still here. What you gonna do now?
>>68190827
i snorted
>>68190773
>> that knee and kick o the body that dropped him
fuuuuuuuuck that looked painful
He may have been a pretty shit fighter, but it's still an unfortunate thing to happen.
RIP Kimbones Jones
>>68190827
Ali inspired American blacks to convert to islam and focus on sports, not really a cultural change that is worthy of praising.
Now we have dumb apes like Aqib Talib, thanks Ali!
>>68190830
bang me right now bro
>>68190802
go back to /asp/ faggot
>>68190610
Kimbo got MMA on mainstream network telly in front of millions years before the UFC managed the same, thru the power of the internet.
>>68190859
he retired in the cage
>>68190805
>>lesnar winning TKA against a former k-1 champ
>> after another k-1 champ put him in his place
kek
>>68190893
>heem thinks it wont
exactly why I know it will.
You fags are always wrong.
>>68190827
>> garbage tier trolling
>> go to sleep its a school night
>>68190785
I'm
Indestructible
Determination that is incorruptible
From the other side, a terror to behold
Annihilation will be unavoidable
Every broken ene
>>68190878
>Lesnar has the most Heavyweight Title defenses.
Get lost casual faggot.
>>68190900
>implying you've been here for more than 2 days
>>68190912
Nobody has more than 2 defenses
The city of heavyweight mma
>>68190924
UFC heavies have always been a shit
Fedor/Nog were too good for the class
>>68190920
>le casual maymay
>thinks an old fat guy is a sure bet
>you will live to see Brock in head to toe Reebok gear
>>68190570
BP isn't the worst album to go out on.
>>68190958
great
>>68190934
define shit, W/L all thats important in your scope or what?
thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW9H1b7zXUY
>>68190958
>you will live to see it sporting Jimmy John's logos
>>68190912
no
he's tied with like 4 other guys. Velasquez, the guy who heemed him first is one of them, and held it for longer.
>>68190997
None of them have great auras. Cain was the chosen one, then Werdum pooped on him, then Werdum pooped on himself in his next fight. Fedor and Big Nog never sprinted like retards to get ktfo and never gassed out in a round getting their heads bounced around like "Cardio Cain" did.
Hey /heem/
Fuck Brock Lesnar and the WWE!!1
Go Hunto!! Fuck yeah DIAZ BROS 4 LYFE
Joe Rogan is a faggot fuck him he sucks HES HURT OMG SHUT UP
TMS > Bottomless Pit > NLDW > Jenny Death > Exmilitary > NOTM > Government Plates
This is objective truth
https://youtu.be/-UdHRZ9lbfA
>>68190934
Fedor beat really shit fighters. Only a few were good.
>Koed by a middleweight
>>68190912
Velasquez held it for longer.
Lesnar also won it from Courture, who was 44 at the time of the bout and also a LHW
He defended it the second time against Carwin who was seconds from KOing him in the first round and gassed
>>68191041
well I consider this motherfucker to be the most technically skilled heavy, more fundamentally sound than Fedor and Nog but didn't fight as many cans as those two did and didn't have "le ebin win streak" like them.
though he did fucking break Big Nog's arm. Which speaks for itself.
However if you're a W/L Anderson Silva fan or whatever, then obviously he's not going to make the cut.
>>68191071
meant for
>>68190998
>>68191084
Mir is a glassjaw roider can, who cares about him
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/5/23/11744954/report-alves-vs-iaquinta-set-for-ufc-202-in-august-mma-news
Why didn't I hear about this?
>2016
>conor dead
>ronda dead
>helwani dead
>kimbo literally dead
>brock resurrected
>impending gsp rapture
the golden age of mma is returning lads
>>68191104
>>they stuck with him through every injury
Cruz finally made a friend
>>68191122
why would anyone want to see a USADA'd GSP?
>>68191101
maybe so, but he knows the sport in a technical way that most heavies don't.
And he didn't spend all his "glory" years fighting cans to pad his stats.
You gotta give Kimbo props for always being chill and respectful, like any other MMA fighter should be. Whenever I saw him in a porn video or an MMA interview, he seemed super relaxed and articulate, unlike countless other MMA nignogs who chimp out over everything.
>>68191130
He's virtually undefeated. He beat the two guys that beat him. He's 35 so he's not too old.
>>68191137
I've met him several times. He's a local celebrity. Nobody has a bad word to say about him.
my boy james thompson will never get his revenge BAKA
>>68191132
He interviews well
Fights like a bum though. Big Nog and Fedor in the mid-oughts would've ended his whole shit. Hell, Nog in 2011 very nearly did.
what went wrong /heem/ ?
>>68191137
>> kimbo
>> articulate
sure if you consider curious george articulate
>>68191144
yeah but drug testing and he looked like dog poop against Bigg Rigg
Is it cool to fuck fat girls when u haven't gotten laid in a while? What would schaub do?
>>68191160
Got some of the best submission in the sport, and THE BEST in the heavyweight division.
So I wouldn't say his career is garbage, but hey depends on who you ask.
Some people think Fedor knocking out chubby nobodies in a nobody league is impressive.
I think technical submissions are impressive.
to each their own.
>>68191071
>that ranking
i'm not mad at that
>>68191149
>> nobody has a bad word to say about him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl6ilMpq8hQ
the gorilla being exposed
>>68191173
Kimbo Slice: The Enemy Inside Me
https://youtu.be/Kyn0RE2HQUA
>>68191201
What does this have to do with anything?
>>68191012
Valazquez only had it so long because he literally never fought.
>Lost it instantly.
>One defense over Bigcorpse Silve
Get the fuck out you cuck
>>68191193
He has one or two good submissions, not enough to justify his reputation, especially when Brock completely exposed his half-guard as non existent. Mir is positionally a shit. If Mir was in Pride he'd have been one of those chubby nobodies. No wrestling, no chin, no standup, nothing. Fedor kills him in less than a minute.
>>68191202
spit my drink out lol
>>68191190
>american flag
It's not like you have a choice.
>>68190540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-XPjYWYCEo
>>68191211
>> has same exact # of title defenses against lesnar
do you have downs
>>68191214
>no wrestling
>no stand up
now you're just flat making things up.
The only thing that cripples him is having no chin. From a technical stand point, he's sound. Whether wrestling or standing up.
Lesnar had a huge strength advantage over him but he found a way. I doubt Fedor would have if put into that position. Fedor would have gotten heemed.
>>68191236
Guy in the beginning was sucking in his gut lol
>>68191239
Lesnar fought better guys for his defense and with more consistency even with surgery.
Cucked yourself fag.
>>68191181
>>68191181
>>68191181
IDIOT
Pigg Rigg was the one that accused GSP of roiding and when GSP offered to fork the bill for both of them to undergoe comprehensive testing Pigg Rigg started to mumble his way out of it.
Pigg Rigg was roided to the gills and still couldn't beat a tired mentally exhausted GSP. Hell, even before the Diaz fight GSP was starting talks of retirement.
Pigg Rigg jack shit.
Reminder that Mir has won 2 of his last 8 fights.
>>68191244
No stand up, really. Big Nog was playing pinball with his head in their rematch until he rolled for the guillotine. Mir also sucks in the clinch too, something else I forgot. Fedor was monstrous in the clinch. Has Mir ever taken anyone down? I forget.
>>68191236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuYq8hZZeGQ#t=10m09s
>>68191255
If GSP is paying for his own testing don't the testers have a conflict of interest should they find out GSP was on the joose (he was)? It's like Mayweather paying for his own testing, nobody takes that shit seriously, why would they?
>>68191259
go watch some his fights, guarantee you wont see many other heavyweights winning fights via toe hold, kimura, triangle, kneebar etc etc
"le punch hard" guys are fun and all, but don't sell Mir short on his achievements.
>>68191269
It's time to go to sleep.
>>68191269
mayweather had the USADA doing his testing...they are literally most credible testinf agency out there. IDK what GSP will use, but it will be an internationally run organization not some hill billy lab.
>>68191269
Growth Hormone
Steroids
Pro hormones
>>68191281
Go watch some Fedor fights. Fedor is probably the worst fight out there for Mir and considering Mir has a 50/50 bum record that's saying something. Quick explosive power striker with the wrestling/clinch advantage and top lvl sub defense = Frank Mir Sr. watching his son die (again).
>>68191289
Mayweather literally used banned IV's under their watch. I don't value USADA above any other testing body, they're all corrupt as shit.
Does anyone have the Sherdog post of why Fedor is a bum?
>>68191263
Dead careers general?
>>68191314
>can someone pls make my arguments for me?
why are these threads so casual-filled
>>68191239
45 year old courture and the can carwin better than JDS
kek, /asp/ is that way, faggot
>>68191314
>Fedor is a bum
>>68191327
It was of his win loss record and a lot of them were pro wrestlers and bums. Only a few were notable wins
>>68191296
>fedor a bad matchup for any currently active fighterer at HW.damnit ricky bobby
People still post on sherdog?
>>68190863
>Send honeypot
>>68191335
Dont believe everything ya hear on the internet, kid
>>68191336
>Chris de la Rocha would beat Fedor cuz UFC
>>68191336
>you in charge of forming a coherent sentence
>>68191348
There it is thanks
>>68191296
Im not saying in a head2head Mir would win.
I know Mir has no chin, Ive been disappointed by his no chin many times.
However I like the guy's technical skill and knowledge of the sport. I'd say that aspect eclipses guys like Fedor.
Also Fedor got beat by Bigfoot of all people, even Mir knocked bigfoot out.
>be ripped as fuck
>die
>be fat as fuck
>live
>>68190540
>> be careful Lesnar, don't be cockyhold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZ71FhNB1U#t=5m26s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdUh4NhZ5Fk#t=3m30s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Ih2Bhbzco#t=11m35s
oh wow the meme is over now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NpG9P3f4WM
>>68191364
Fedor has never given a toss about MMA, never watched it outside of his opponents, and did it as a way to make money and promote Sambo, so that's no surprise. I did say Mir is a better interviewer than a fighter. I hope he retires and joins the UFC broadcast team.
Also, Bigfoot on TRT was a monster who went 5 hard rounds with Hunt. Post-TRT Bigfoot can't take a punch, Hunt also kilt Mir ded with one shot, and Mir was roiding so he has even less excuses.
>>68191356
>forms equally bad sentence to troll anon
This is heem in a nutshell
post yfw when because kimbo died,one day later everyone has forgotten about helwani after just a day
>mfw Kimbo got me into MMA when he was on TUF 10
>>68191396
post yfw nobody remembers Bisping is world champ
>>68191394
>being this new
get out
>>68191424
Kimbo prolly got more ppl into MMA than anyone except Brock
>>68191181
>GSP
>drug testing
GSP will only come back if he is guaranteed to not get USADA'd, either because he's 100% sure he can beat the tests or because of some shady under the table agreement with Dana and the Fertittas. If GSP comes back, we'll be getting full-on roid GSP. If USADA is too much of an obstacle, he simply won't return.
>>68191433
he definitely brought nigs to the sport
>>68191464
Reebok is a huge blockade, I heard. GSP has a big deal with Underarmor, has for a long time.
>>68190800
based aleks
WHAT HAPPEN TO YOU HEEM
>>68191487
Reebok is so trash, surprised the didn't tank in the early 2000s
>>68191499
Rampage's shoe saved them bro
>>68191497
meme overload
>>68191500
How so? Millions were watching him squash the Tank Abotts and James Thompsons of the world on CBS.
Why isn't Jorge game bred Masvidal the official fighter of heem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJSRzrBJZ88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0eAw0ZqSy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Q81cpwITg
>>68191528
love Jorge
>>68191528
love Jorge
>>68191433
not the right ppl though
>>68191553
Any people is good people.
>>68191528
he got reverse triangle`d standing up like a goof.
>>68191569
have you seen these mandrama posters?
>>68191588
I'd say that's more Brock than Kimbo. Kimbo broke open the floodgates to the Black community and kids on the internet all day watching fight videos. He's a proto-WorldStar.
>>68191314
> beat crocop in his prime
> bum
Kill youself you ufc cum rag
>>68191608
Cro-Can was overrated as hell
I could beat him up if I didn't have a bad shoulder
>>68191617
Eat a butt, dude!
>>68191654
Nice try but that's the market the UFC's had since literally it's inception
>>68191617
Pretty sure he could beat you death with one arm.
i could beat bork lazer
>>68191474
my thoughts exactly
Rip In Piece Kevin Ferguson
SCHAUB SAID HE WOULD TAKE BROCK IF THEY GAVE IT TO HIM
>>68191664
doesnt mean it has to stay that way. especially since it aspires to be considered a sport.
>>68191608
>Lose to Kevin Randleman
Kek
>>68191695
I think that's a pipe-dream. It inspires to be considered a sport, but not to actually be a sport.
>>68190958
THAT'S ADIDAS BECAUSE REEBOK WON'T PAY ME NUTHIN
>>68191711
UFC Heavyweight Champion Kevin Randleman
If Rose is going to beat up the Polish qt she better at least cause a nip slip.
>>68191528
I wonder how he feels right now with Kimbo really giving him his start
>>68191721
17 and 16 Kevin Randleman
>>68191599
>Black community
kek
What were the odds for Bisping in the Rockhold fight? 10 times you money?
Pls respond I can't find it on the internet.
>>68191738
The wheels obviously came off at some point but in terms of raw athletic power Kevin Randleman makes Brock Lesnar look like Pat Healy.
>>68191749
If prime Randleman and prime Brock(first WWE run) collided, the world would have imploded.
>>68191084
>>68191101
>>68191132
Didn't he get fucked up from a motorcycle accident that set his career back a bit? Or did it just derail his wedding
>>68191745
They're going to make a rematch with that fucking press conference.
I still put money on Rockhold though.
>>68191745
i saw one ad that said 16/1, probably between that and 5/1 depending where you looked by fight night
silva-sonnen iii just confirmed by arial halawani
>>68191760
He's honestly lucky he didn't die. Pretty sure he got T-boned cruising the Vegas strip.
>>68191760
He had a car accident in 2004 that he nearly died from in his staph infection that left him looking like he'd been shot was in 2007, I think.
>>68191745
i betted 0,50 € on bisping and got 2,76 €
Would you guys be surprised if Lesnar fought for the title again? The guy is a freak athlete and the HW division is always up in the air. I feel like if he stuck to his wrestling, the guy has a shot. With the right training and if his disease is under control, bork could be a contender.
>>68191772
roid tier immune system
>>68191783
brock is going to get brutally kay oh'd and sent back to WWE where the competition is a little easier
>>68191713
Aye, fair enough. I see your perspective lad. I guess Kimbo was important to MMA in some way.
Hopefully Lesnar massacres Hunt, doubt it though. Will turtle up probably.
>tfw your fitefus are fighting each other
what the fuck do i do lads
Just got out of exams and i see this shit.
>yfw DADA won after all
>>68191783
>being this casual ...
>>68191783
>Brock returns
>has been drilling nothing but striking for 5 years
>comes back
>walk off KO's Hunt
>bootyblasts Overeem
>Cleveland chokes Stipe
>retires as brand ambassador for Coors Light
>>68191790
In terms of the United States, I think he's unarguably one of the 10 most popular/impactful fighters of all time. Others would be Chuck and Ken Shamrock and a few others.
>>68191783
Reem is coming for that belt and there's no way Brock gets back into a cage with him. Brock is shook by based Reem
>>68191766
I would lose my shit senpai
>>68191803
How is thinking bork has a chance casual? He was champ before (although competition was much weaker). Anything can happen in the heavy weights you casual.
>>68191805
uhhh ... there is something so cringeworthy about you mentioning kimbo and chuck in the same sentence, but you might be right. the thing is i dont think this is to be celebrated. if anything, this mentality must be purged.
WTF DOES HEEM EVEN MEAN LOL
MARK HUNT IS GOING TO SUPLEX CITY BITCHES
>>68191804
>Brock getting past Reem ever
good laugh my man
>>68191827
>Heem City, bitch!
>>68191804
>yfw Brock comes back with the footwork of Dillashaw + Cruz and the striking power of Hunto + Carwin
>>68191827
Here
Everyone
Envies
McGregor
>>68191827
It's what I'm gonna do to you if you don't watch your mouth, boy.
>>68191824
What mentality? That people want to see dynamic and crazy personalities fighting? That's not going anywhere. Conor McGregor got a UFC title shot without fighting a single wrestler and only one Top 10 fighter.
>>68191830
Reem is so based
>>68191827
It's crazy that Vince pays Bork millions of dollars just to do one move because he loves big muscle guys that much
>>68191840
Based McGregor, official King of /heem/
Can John Cena learn MMA or is he too old? Maybe if he went into it when he was younger he would have had a chance, but just interesting to think about when you see CM Punk and Lesnar competing in both sports.
>>68191839
But can he beat Hunto with the anger of experiencing racism from a child during a game of Counterstrike?
>>68191830
Reem is way less physically imposing now. Remember how Brock cut him in the first fight? I could see some flukey grazing punch from Lesnar wobbling this Reem.
>>68191190
>mfw lost my v-card to a fat grill
when we where exchanging pics online she looked like the perfect amount of fat
>mfw she was a bit fatter than i'd like when we met in person
i still did
still would
>>68191863
Less physical but much more economic and patient. Overeem dismantles Lesnar just like he's done to every Heavyweight since he's had this little revival.
>>68191860
>yfw Mark drags Brock's lifeless corpse down the las vegas strip in celebration
>>68191859
I mean Lesnar has prior knowledge with a long career in actual college level wrestling, Even before training MMA, Punk was what, a blue belt in BJJ? What prior knowledge would Cena have? he would be in a similar situation with Punk who's struggling supposedly with the MMA training, but worse with no prior knowledge
>>68191830
>when the doctor hooks your bag of roids up fat
If Brock gets KO'd to the shadow realm does he still have a mandatory 90 days (or more) off under UFC rules or not? As he is still technically under WWE contract. As that suspension would put his SummerSlam appearance in jeapordy.
>>68191818
if he came back and won 3 straight I would appreciate your banter but you insisting on him possibly becoming the champion at this stage shows that you need to go back to watching mandrama. perhaps you`re not even a casual; simply a goof.
>>68191876
Ubereem devolved back into Overeem and suddenly he can't be beat
>>68191894
It's dem mountain climber survivorman breathing exercises and meditating in swimming pools
>>68191845
do you run bellator ?
reminder
anyone have the wrestling scrambles and exchanges of the last Faber vs Cruz match?
>>68191887
WWE isn't governed by athletic commissions. They have a protocol they follow, but if he's seriously injured they would have go and work a 5 minute squash where he takes no damage.
>>68191190
Yes lad. They are called slump busters. Those glorious fatty angels get you back in the game and feeling good
>>68191879
Cena has proved that he is a quick learner, and has a very high work ethic. Apparently he's always the first one to show up and the last one to go home, so apply that to MMA and I think he could be pretty scary with the right training. The only reason I asked this question is because he's in his 30s now so maybe it would be too late for him.
>>68191909
I hate all promoters equally but they work primarily to satisfy the tastes and desires of their market, and those haven't changed, well, ever.
>>68191190
fat isn't always bad.
>>68191926
>look away from her tits
>see her face
>mfw
>helwani gets OK from UFC to come back
>retard ass #FREEHELWANI accounts still exist on all social media
>NFL ESPN spokeswomen are telling us to not spend money on the UFC because of helwani gate
Social media was a mistake
>>68191926
>fat
the fat here is those fat titties.
>>68191926
for sure get some standards my man
is the new fighter and the kid worth a listen?
>>68191920
im tinking of fucking a fat BLACK girl
my slump is about 22 months now
at first you dont care but then the number starts to get big and youre like.... i gotta bust a nut
>>68191942
MMA was a mistake
>>68191923
yes but i dont give a fuck about the market you see. perhaps you shouldn`t either, unless you are scott coker as i suspect. instead i represent my own desires and tastes and look down on plebs. your insistence on dick riding kimbo is demonstrative of your own lowly understanding of the technical aspects of our beautiful game.
How much shit behind the scenes do you think a fighter gets for being KOed by Bisping?
>>68191959
Tinder is easy to find girls who are down to fuck.
They're not fat or black either.
>>68191966
I guarantee I train more often than you, pseud shit
>>68191942
>>helwani gets OK from UFC to come back
wtf? its real
YOU COWARDS
I guess he did disgrace himself by crying and talking about his family being send to Canada
>>68191921
learning choreography, or pre scripted stuff is a different type of learning then something more free flowing like combat if that makes sense. I think the biggest comparison is like doing a math worksheet with simple algorithms but there is a bigger strain with task that are more open minded with their questioning like a story or application problem. I guess my metaphor is trying to say, the body of work that Cena is in with his career is a tad more simple in terms of game planning, and developing technique then a fight.
I will say this though, regardless of how easy he learns or how coachable he may or may not be, Cena is an explosive athlete and that is a viable asset for any sport, specially with MMA. However other factors such as developing an offensive set, defensive set and implementing both of them into a game plan . Another problem he would face would be is stamina/cardio issues and whatever prior damage/injuries he has endured during his WWE carrer, In general i think hes not to old, but hes up there in age, to be anything more viable then a journey man/gate keeper at best. freak show at worse
>>68191959
My slump is 23 years. For whatever reason I'm a kissless virgin, but I get to grab titties often. Could be the $2 strip club I hit up after work though.
>Ali dies
Bisping becomes champ
Faber and Hendo may finally retire
Let me bang bro
Bork is back to fight Mark Hunto of all guys
Pvz get going to wwe
Helwani gets banned for life
Kimbo dies before Dada
Wew lads. What other crazy stuff should we hope happen?
>>68191263
No. You are a PUSSY.
>>68191979
Or the UFC realized that banning a journalist whos career relies on attending events for reporting news was an overreaction.
>>68191983
Zuffa sells UFC to China and Dana White and Joe Rogan leave MMA.
Wrestlers are replaced with Chinese kungfu sifus and the raise of TMA is renewed
Wing Chun replaces BJJ as the hot new martial art for training MMA
>>68191983
Hilary dies, Keith Richards reveals his immortality secrets, Bieber gets deported
>>68191991
Nah he embarrassed himself like a fucking moron crying and blabbering
It was pathetic
Feminine
Silly sad paid shill cries on his own show! Embarrassing! Sad!
>>68191965
is that Caitlyn Jenner?
>>68191983
>Bork round 1 KOs Hunt with a flying wheel kick.
>Bisking undisputed #1 p4p after clearing out all contenders+hendo.
>Mighty Mouse moves up and becomes the 2nd man to ever beat Dominic Cruz.
>Jones moves up to fight Stipe and wins 2 belts.
>Poirier get revenge at 155 over Goobs.
>Fronks and Aldo double KO each other and Holloway is given the intern title instead.
>Bigg Pigg makes weight.
>>68191978
perhaps you do. but when one lacks mental capacity, the frequency at which one trains does not mean much.
>>68191980
Yes I agree with everything you say but I think he already has proved he has good grappling/submissions as a base.
In his original fight with brock (the real one where they had a fight live on TV when brock returned) he had his lip split open and clearly lost the fight. It was kinda hard to see because of all the people breaking it up but it kind of looked like cena could hold his own a little bit. It would be interesting to see what he could be with some real striking training to add to his grappling, but obviously he would want to take the fight to the floor and apply submissions where possible.
>>68192007
>r-real men don't cry!
>>68191979
did he actually say his family was gonna get sent to canada ? wow ...
>>68192030
Shill shemale cries on live tv! Weak!
>>68192030
You're allowed to cry only when your mom or your dog die, that's it.
>>68191965
sauce?
google turned up a shit ton of glasses.
>>68192022
I mean, you don't train. You're a pussy.
>>68192057
it's 3:40, fellow /sp/artan.
>>68192057
Shill Paid By Company Cries When Company Says Go Home! Sad!!! Weak!!! Low Energy! Don't Cry Baby Shill!
>>68192066
Not down under in Shitpostralia. Also don't remind me my ass has to leave the house at 6am for work and I haven't slept.
>>68191888
Nice trips but I want to knock you out. I've been watching mma longer than you. Please get in my fucking guard.
I hope Hunto KOs Brock stiff
>>68192102
I hope Kelvin Gastelum decisions Pigg Rigg into obscurity
>>68192095
>hope hunto KOs Brock stiff.
Don't hope. It's going to happen.
In the second minute of the second round.
Cap this shit.
>Wake up Brock. It's over.
>>68192006
still would
>>68192178
>>68192185
aside from the obvious.
Clit hood piercing?
>>68192115
not happening
I want off this wild ride friends and family
Will his spirit bless 200?
>>68192219
Yes with Brock laying out Hunt
>>68192203
I hope TJ memes all over Assuncao with shifting shit
>However, in our opinion, we believe the recurring tactics used by its lead reporter extended beyond the purpose of journalism.
classic Dana
>>68192199
Just a really fat clit/small dick I think
>>68192199
She's just really excited. McGregor went to a weigh in with a boner
>>68192236
assuncao isn't bad, sucks he is AKA tier bandage boy
inactive high ranked fighters need to move, they are clogging the ranks.... woodley, assuncaio. khabib, formiga, gus, weidman, cain
>>68192056
but i do senpai ... and you`re still a retard.
Do ring girls get tested by USADA?
>>68192294
They get their temperature tested by uncle Dana
Lads
Basically, I made an instagram account so that I could follow loads of slags and just have a feed full of hot slag pics. Pornstars and models and stuff.
I follow Brittney Palmer too for this reason but all she ever posts is her ""art work"".
I've started to feel really bad now every time she posts "art". It looks like she tries really hard and really wants to be seen as an artist but she is literally just a plastic slag and thats why people follow her instagram, not to see her shite paintings. Poor girl.
Thanks for reading my blog. rip kimbo
>>68192312
Tell her how you feel
>>68192327
that would be bullying
>>68192312
tldr: im a beta orbitter
Just had a horrible realization.
Eventually you will die before watching a PPV that you were looking forward to
>>68192345
>Implying ufc will last another 10 years
>>68192349
>Implying you'll live another 10 years
>>68192353
>implying youre alive
simulation hypothesis bitch... youre just some code in an experiment/video game
>>68192349
>implying you will be alive in another 4
>>68192312
Speaking of slags, I found Arianny's Playboy pics yesterday.
The rest is obvious.
>>68192345
So what? I'll also die before going to a live UFC event.
>Schaub will never fight again
>>68192371
>The rest is obvious
You vomited profusely?
>>68192383
Honestly I'm okay with that
I like Schaub far too much to see him get brain damage for pennies
He makes far more and seems far happier doing the podcast and TV show stuff, it's great for him and I legitimately thought TFATK3D was some of the funniest sketch comedy I'd ever seen
Killing the game my man, 100%
>>68192383
bellator
>>68190540
That pic
>>68192383
I'd like someone to convince him to fight in Glory so he can get heemed Pat Barry style. He is such a retard and narcissist it would probably be easy to talk him into it.
>Wake up, Michael. It's all over.
Dada 5000 wins again.
>>68192413
salty boy
>>68190540
Don't know how to feel about this.
He put his son in art school so he wouldn't end up like him. But he was also probably a turbonigga.
Didn't think Kimbos death would hit me this hard.
He's a nice guy. I've met him before. He's one of the biggest draws in mma history.
Guys was Dada 5000 vs Kimbo spicy? I missed it, but both guys died afterwards, so it must have been an absolute banger.
>>68192445
>Guys was Dada 5000 vs Kimbo spicy? I missed it, but both guys died afterwards, so it must have been an absolute banger.
A guy lost his shit on heem from how bad it was.
>>68192429
By all accounts I've seen Kimbo was not only smart, but he was also super nice and professional to everybody around him
Obviously I've never met the guy and everybody always says that about the recently deceased, but Schaub spoke favourably about him on the podcast multiple times
>>68192445
Do you enjoy watching big black men hugging each other?
>>68192305
Are you implying that the baldfather sodomizes his slutty ring prancers?
>>68192459
He's said some pretty stupid shit in the past but not paticuarly malignant.
The stuff his son said about him is pretty neat though.
Michael Bisping is the middleweight champion of the world
In a division consisting of
>Jacare
>Weidman
>Rockhold
>Belfort
>Kennedy
>Machida
>>68192459
He also came off as a soft spoken teddy bear type dude
the kind people are always afraid of because of his looks and that made him into an insecure quiet and gentle human being
RIP in peace, Kimbo
>>68192513
Isn't it great?
>>68192445
it was unironically the worst fight ever but that kinda made it good
>>68192513
I think Bisping loses the belt in his next fight against Weidman, Jacare, or Romero, but it's a fucking fantastic climax of his career and he deserves recognition for it
He'll always be the former middleweight champion of the world, and for a perennial gatekeeper like him it has to feel like an enormously long time coming
So thrilled for the guy
>>68192535
Stylistically I think Bisping vs Weidman is a great matchup.
>>68192513
Everytime someone mentions that I smile uncontrollably.
>>68192535
He could get a more winnable fight against Vitor or Hendo. Never know with UFC match making and injuries.
>>68192570
RIP...
>>68192577
>Bisping will have more title defenses than Rockhold
kek
We will never see Cruz vs Aldo
>>68192513
He had the drive and fucking deserves it.
>>68192596
Cruz vs Edgsr is the fight to make anyway
>Michael "The Count" Bisping is unironically the #9 p4p ranked fighter in the world right now
>Cruz #3
>Lawler #4
Maybe switch these guys around
Other than that I'm honestly okay with the top 10 rankings
>>68192632
p4p rankings are stupid
>>68192632
dc should be 4th
>>68192632
Put Lawler ahead of Cruz? Are you serious man? Lawler's fun to watch but if anything Lawler could be lower.
Can you lads imagine any other future for bisping's daughter other than being the sort of girl who yells obscene shit while she takes it up the ass
>>68192661
She's 13 years old bro
Emil Weber Meek's signed a contract with UFC and will fight Jessin Ayari in Hamburger, September 3.
>>68192661
>tfw its been over a year since you took a girl up the bum
thinking about getting an escort tbqh lads
>>68192667
Confirmed? Based if so
>>68192632
>that flag
>that suggestion
>>68192667
Fucking awesome
>>68192660
Welterweight is so much deeper than bantamweight, it's a different type of competiteon, Bryan fucking Caraway is ranked nr 4, in Welterweight it's Maia, Rory is a better fighter than anyone at Bantamweight
>>68192679
http://www.vg.no/sport/kampsport/mma-mixed-martial-arts/meek-klar-for-ufc-jeg-broelte-av-glede/a/23705079/
http://www.sport1.de/mehr-sport/2016/06/jessin-ayari-gibt-ufc-debuet-in-hamburg-gegen-emil-weber-meek
Couldn't find any English articles though
>>68192662
and she's got Michael "Anal Play" Bisping for a dad, so shes bound to be a dog slut
How will Holly Holm be under USADA?
>>68192703
She would never fuck a shitskin though, chinkycunt.
>>68192705
Straight dog shit.
>>68192445
FOTY
O
T
Y
>>68192632
>unironically thinking lawler is above cruz
LMAO only a swede could think that a guy with 10 losses should be ranked higher than the greatest genius MMA ever had.
Kimbo Slice was unironically the biggest draw bellator had.
Imagine if Conor died tomorrow...
>>68192745
>Conor "Second Breakfast" McMunchkin ded.
He wouldn't get a sticky.
>Fedor is fighting, not on UFC 200, but Fight Pass
What do you think Hendo's chances are of getting a title shot against Michael GOATsping?
He's not even in the top 10 of the MW power rankings, but with how crazy shit has been recently, could he have a chance?
>>68192783
Anything is possible.
>>68192739
Silva had six of them, Fedor has 4, GSP had 2, Frankie has 4 and he would whop Cruz, record means fuck all, Rory is better than anyone at Bantam, look at the division and compare it to welterweight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_pU9YDqQzk&feature=youtu.be
Fucking Bisping, how much blood was required?
3 steaks a day MINIMUM
>>68192786
>Frankie has 4 and he would whop Cruz
wew lad
What did Cruz do to you to earn your hatred of him? First it was the meme footwork, now you're crying about 1 spot on some meme rankings. He's one of the best fighters there is m8. He beat MM, he beat TJ, he absolutely dominated Faber. His only loss has been avenged thoroughly. He's without a doubt #2-3 on the P4P rankings. Robbie unironically lost 2 out of his last 3 fights but was gifted decisions. Cruz 100% deserves to be higher.
>>68192739
>>68192786
The Swede is right.
WW is stacked, while BW is floundering in it's shallowness.
That's why everyone wants Mighty Mouse to jump up and fight Cruz. Something has to change in BW or else no one is going to want to watch it.
>>68192416
>Implying Piss Widemens could touch Michael Natty GOAT and Champion of the World Bisping
>>68192429
He was a nice humble dude on TUF at least
>>68192786
You realize that the difference between 4 and 10 losses is huge, right?
Rory is not better than DJ or TJ.
I want 189ers to go.
>>68192806
I don't hate Cruz, that dude left, TJ was pretty much a draw, sure he dominated Faber, Edgar did it better, Welterweight is another world, fucking Faber is ranked nr 2 at Bantamweight, Cruz is good but he is not a welterweight. Also that mighty mouse lost to fucking Brad Picket. You're a dumbass if you think Bantamweight is even close to welterweight.
>>68192445
The worst fight in the history of MMA but in such a way that you absolutely must watch it.
It was like the Snakes on a Plane of MMA fights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUOKSHK6a4
If anyone missed me post it last time, here's a highlight video of Matt Brown vs Stephen Wonderboy Thompson that I really like.
>>68192830
It's irrelevant to how good he is at this very moment, if you chose to realise that the Lawler in strikeforce is the same we have right now there is no reason to argue with you.
>>68192785
This makes my fucking dick hard.
I hate Luke Cockhold's attitude so fucking much.
>>68192807
Only casuals think that, bantamweight is quite stacked right now, MM will most likely get ragdolled around again if he fights cruz at 135.
Lower divisions will always have less fans, casuals will stick to meme divisions like heavyweight.
https://youtu.be/AdPe4V_69YE
https://youtu.be/AdPe4V_69YE
2 min in and already shaping up for a goat episode
>>68192833
>I don't hate Cruz, that dude left
right
>TJ was pretty much a draw
nope
>sure he dominated Faber, Edgar did it better
wrong
>Welterweight is another world, fucking Faber is ranked nr 2 at Bantamweight
Welterweight is deeper, sure, Robbie lost his last fights against Hendricks and Condit so bringing up the fact that WW is deeper is entirely irrelevant.
>You're a dumbass if you think Bantamweight is even close to welterweight.
Bantamweight isn't far off. You have Cruz, TJ, MM, Barao, Lineker, Dodson, Garbrandt, Almeida. It's definitely stacked compared to most other divisions.
>>68192830
>how good he is at this very moment
>literally lost 2 out of his last 3 matches
Theres no reason to argue really, anyone who unironically puts lawler above Cruz in a p4p ranking is either delusional or too new.
>>68190800
Aleks was more talented and gifted than fedor. FACT. He was just a crazy undisciplined fuck.
>>68192851
I don't care for HW.
I really only watch W'sBW, WW, MW and LHW. The only weight classes that matter.
Kimbos death has hit me a lot harder than Ali
Just woke up to the news.
>>68192840
you shouldn't be memeposting at work, Gustaffson.
>>68191269
>If GSP is paying for his own testing
I posted this all the time back when. They also sponsored GSP at the time. It was a fucking retarded notion that every retard jumped on just like all the stupid fucks defending Helwani.
>>68192859
Barao and MM are not Bantamweights, also you adressed none of the points, you just said wrong, I don't care for Cruz but I like Lawler, TJ Cruz was retardedly close, pretty much the same strikes hit, all cruz did to secure it were some takedowns you can go look at the scorecards they were all over the place, Edgar beat him standing and on the ground while Cruz just outstruck him, Robbie lost fuck all against Condit because damage scores points and he simply did more damage in round 3 and it does not make the argument irrelevant, Lawler has two questionable dec and one clear win since he became champ, Cruz has one questionable dec and one clear win, and Lawler did it in a much deeper division, go look at the division and compare it to bantamweigh
Mizugaki is ranked the same as Gunnar Nelson
Almeida is ranked the same as Rick Story
fucking Caraway is ranked the same as Maia
Sterling is ranked the same as Hendricks
Faber is ranked the same as Thompson
McDonald is ranked the same as Condit
Wineland is ranked the same as Tumenov
it's a shit division in comparison
>Schaub and Callen literally talk about wanting to watch Ali have sex with Bryan's wife
>>68192863
Just because you think a decision went his way doesnt mean it did, I could use the same argument for Cruz
>lmao 1 win against Faber in 3 years p4p nr 3
See how that is fucking stupid?
>>68192908
>Barao and MM are not Bantamweights
Yes they are, they're also Flyweight/Featherweight respectively
>also you adressed none of the points, you just said wrong
I addressed them by saying they're wrong, because you're wrong
>I don't care for Cruz but I like Lawler
I like both. I like Lawler more, but I'm objective about it.
>TJ Cruz was retardedly close
Cruz was the clear winner.
>Robbie lost fuck all against Condit
You're retarded.
You lost the argument, don't bother replying.
>>68192937
If MM and Barao are bantamweights I suppose il count in everyone who ever fought at welterweight then, MM only fought there because there was no other division.
You still don't back up your shit, you just say im wrong because it's your opinion, you might aswell go into a debate and just mimic what the other guy is saying in a stupid voice and then claim you won.
What is worst division and why is it [spoiler]Flyweight?[/spoiler]
Seriously, the division is so weak and shallow it makes me sick.
>>68192959
Barao was champion and won a gazillion fights in BW, MM was good at BW, he just got destroyed by one of the best to ever do it.
Lawler lost to literal nobodies just 4 years ago and arguably lost 2 out of his last 3, you can make the case for WW being better than BW, but Lawler is barely hanging there as champion while Cruz has been dominant against everyone in his division.
>>68192996
Cruz has beat TJ and Faber in a relevant age, MM at that time barely beat Mcall, he lost to Picket, it's a different MM, Barao was a welterweight and now he is not and Cruz never fought him, and the fact that he dominated Bantamweight when can't beat the nr 8 ranked featherweight only shows how bad the division is
>Muhamed Ali
>Kimbo Slice
Great champions demands great sacrifices.
>>68192987
Heavyweight and LHW
>>68192987
Heavyweight easily.
>>68193039
>lhw
u fookin what?
it has 4 people, more than most divisions
>>68193053
And then what, it dropps so bad after Texiera
You would think they would try and make UFC 200 geared more towards the casual fans than the hardcore fans for more PPV buys
>>68193064
>more than most divisions
and i wasn't even counting him cos he's shit
so 5
>>68193039
Heavyweight has atleast been competitive since Cain lost
>>68193068
Well they did, it was supposed to have Conor and Brock, now it has Brock atleast, what more could they do? Ronda wont come and they even brought in Sage, and Jones DC will sell some PPVs
>>68193071
Sure the top is really strong but the drop is so bad, under top 5 there is Latifi and Cirkunov that show promise, the rest is dead.
>“When I was asked a few weeks ago to stay ready for July, I was very pumped man. I had no idea it would be Brock, but like everything it doesn’t matter who I fight they are going to get it good and proper when I step inside the cage.” Hunt said.
>“I’m just going to prepare as best as I can. My mind is built for this sh*t, throw me into the maelstrom of battle and 9 out of 10 times I walk away”.
>"I deal with a wrestler like I deal with every other fighter,” he said. “I punch them in the mouth”.
>Back in 2001, Lesnar was arrested on suspicion of possessing large amounts of anabolic steroids – something Hunt has publicly frowned upon. Hunt warned officials that they better be testing Lesnar, but either way, he plans to knock him out.
>“I already said they better be testing him, but in the end it doesn’t even matter. It’s time for ‘punch face’, a game I have been playing for many years” he said.
>“I’ll knock his face off. I knock his mouth off and then his lips fly off.” he said.
>Ever since Lesnar retired from MMA, he’s admitted he has an “itch” to get back in and finish his unfinished business.
>“If he has an itch to scratch I will scratch it for him,” Hunt said.
>“I ain’t no part time fighter. He thinks this is a game where he can come back and forth.
>“I will send this pretender back so he can play house with the other part timers. This realm is for the real fighters, not these damn pretenders.”
>Hunt finished by sending a warning to Lesnar.
>“Don’t confuse wrestling with real fighting. I’m going to give it to him” he said.
With three title fights there really can only be 4 or maybe 5 fights on the main card, who do you guys think will headline the fite pass prelims and the fox prelims at 200?
>we will never see a kimbo vs dada 5000 II
>>68193028
I don't think you understand MMA very well and you stopped making sense already.
MM didn't go from trash to god in 5 years, he was good when he fought Cruz, just not good enough, barao got destroyed by TJ and had to leave the division while Cruz destroyed TJ after fighting once in 4 years or something.
Barao also didn't dominate Bantamweight, his only relevant wins are against Urijah Faber also its known that post USADA brazilians are shit.
You keep trying to diminish the fact that Cruz left the game for more than 3 years and came back on top, and has also never lost in his weight class despite basically fighting top 5 fighters only.
WW is better than BW but that doesn't change the fact that Cruz is much better and much more dominant than Lawler, who has lost more times than you can count on one hand and arguably has lost 2 out of his last 3.
Stop trying to play down Cruz and tell me why Robbie Lawler should be considered a top 3 p4p fighter because his record and recent performance go totally against that.
>>68192987
Flyweight is so shitty. IDK who wants to watch a bunch of uber-manlets run around and act like their fighting. When I watch flyweight, it's like I'm watching children play-fighting.
>>68193106
well
flyweight is1
bantamweight 2
featherweight 5, 4 if conor never goes back
lightweight 2
welterweight generous 4
middleweight 3
check for yourself
Is Alex "Bruce Leeroy" Caceres boy tier?
>>68193153
i'm talking possible title challengers too not fillers
>>68193159
if he doesn't go on a losing streak again
>>68192937
you're a faggot. don't try to argue it.
You know where you are buddeh?
>>68191745
>Could have backed Bisping at like 8.7
>backed Faber instead
>>68193180
The City of Rockhold?
>>68193120
>I don't think you understand MMA very well
>Cruz destroyed TJ
MM absolutely went from shit to great in 4 years, no way he would have that sort of fight with Mcall and Picket again.
Barao absolutely dominated the division, he was being touted as a p4p great and noone knew of anyone who could challange him, remember that tj was a +1100 underdog in their first fight.
Doms fights 5 years ago are irrelevant to how good he is now, same goes for lawler, and you could argue that Cruz lost 1 out of his last 2 with the one win being over Faber rather than Lawler. Lawler should be top 3 p4p because he is the best fighter in the best division right now, the division has 108 fighters to Bantamweights 60.
Going back to Dillashaw Cruz, you're claiming that Cruz destroyed him and it wasnt even close yet the scorecards have 0 consistency, lookat at TJ taking round 1,4,5 on two judges scorecards showing that it was obviously not an obvious decision, then you claim Condit beat Lawler and thats undebatable, so all you're really doing is claiming your opinion is simply right and there is nothing that can change that so why even argue?
>Don't come in too overconfident pal, I'll wipe that smug look off your face believe you me
>>68193169
nope, your boy is still your boy even after he loses horribly from vicious elbows
How about this for BW?
Cruz vs winner of TJ–Assunção.
Then winner of McDonald–Lineker vs winner of Garbrandt–Caraway for next title shot
>>68192996
Cruz beat MM with nothing but size.
>>68193215
true but he needs to become boy-tier first.
>g-guys, please d-don't forget about me, ok?
>is a-anybody listening? h-hello?
>>68193228
this is why struve is the best ever right you little smug shit
>>68193203
TJ was outstruck, landing at a lower percentage, out grappled and had more damage done to him than he dished out in the first 3 easily. The only metric you could possibly argue is octagon control and that's a retarded method of judging fights anyway.
Jesus Christ, can he be any more of a dick?
>>68193259
I don't agree that size is all that played into it, but you have to admit it played a significant role.
>>68193286
DDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNN
>>68193286
I hope Conor gets destroyed in to retirement by Diaz just so this guy's career is over.
>>68193286
nice try fagola
>>68193203
AAAAAAANND THE WINER BY UNANIMOUS DECISION... SWEEEDEN!!
>>68193321
tbf, it was implied
>>68193328
you suck
>>68193203
Dillashaw - Cruz, I also think Dillashaw won. But then again I also thought Lawler won against Condit and a lot of people here disagree with me on that.
>>68193282
Round one Dillashaw had 26 to 21 strikes
Round two Cruz had 18 to 17 strikes
Round three had both on 19 strikes
You thinking Cruz did more damage is a personal opinion but know that two judges gave Dillashaw the first round. Percentage also means nothing
OOOOOH MYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOOODNESSSSSSSS
11 minutes of Rory MacDonald with Robin Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJry7cZF-P4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJry7cZF-P4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJry7cZF-P4
This thread got good, well done lads :)
>>68193203
I'm here with the winner Sweden. What was going through your head in that 3rd round where Brazil told you that the Dom v TJ wasn't even close? What were you thinking?
>>68193203
This is why I said you don't understand MMA, it was clear to anyone with a functional brain that Cruz won that fight.
>MM absolutely went from shit to great in 4 years
Dumb thing to say.
>Barao absolutely dominated the division, he was being touted as a p4p great and noone knew of anyone who could challange him
Dumb thing to say, he defended the belt only 4 times and was on juice, but yea the division sucked at that point I agree.
>Doms fights 5 years ago are irrelevant to how good he is now, same goes for lawler, and you could argue that Cruz lost 1 out of his last 2 with the one win being over Faber rather than Lawler. Lawler should be top 3 p4p because he is the best fighter in the best division right now, the division has 108 fighters to Bantamweights 60.
Disregarding history is really retarded lmao, you can't be serious.
Also as I said, if you have a functional brain you can see the difference between Cruz vs TJ and Lawler fights.
Lawler is barely the best, arguably shouldn't even still have the belt, also going by your shitty logic Lawler should be above MM too, since MM fights in a shit weight class.
I also never said Condit vs Lawler was in any away unanimous, but yea it was much more close than any Cruz fight.
Its just so stupid, you clearly doesn't understand MMA and started following it recently so to put your boy on top you disregard everything and uses the argument that he barely won a few fights in a tough division so that should credit him as the best.
>>68193324
he thinks robbie beat carlos, he's delusional
TJ won that fight
>>68193372
>ywn shoot airsoft guns with Rory
>>68193391
I understand there's some controversy in my decision but i just feel like sweden did a lot of damage by pointing out that the hue had no justification for his opinions on the Dom/TJ fight.
>Kimbo came to prominence as a viral video sensation and was a "meme"
>His death will bless UFC 200 with the same meme magic as Ali's did with 199
>mfw Hunto deletes Brock and his death makes the next 10 cards GOAT contenders
>>68193361
Dom landed more sig. strikes in round 1. Dom outlanded him in sig. strikes in every round except the 5th actually.
So TJ landed a few more irrelevant, grazing pitter patter shots in the in the first but outside of arguably, maybe that round and the 5th he lost every other round on statistics. It was a close fight with a clear winner.
>>68193437
TJ took Dom down a lot also.
>>68193387
>another classic fight
>another close fight
>thinking through it all over in those last moments before Buffer announces the winner
>>68193432
TJ missed much more and less damage, Cruz controlled the fight entirely and clearly won.
srsly u 189ers really have to go, /r/mma is a great place.
>>68193390
You keep saying im wrong without even telling me why, you just saying im wrong and dumb all the time, 5 years ago Silva was the best in the world and Shogun was a champion, a ton changes in that time, and all that happened, when Dom was champ 5 years ago the division was so different you cant compare it to the curent one, im not saying Lawler has a better record, a legacy or that he will even go down as a better fighter, but as of right now he deserves to be higher on the p4p list because of how the division looks right now and what he is currently doing in it. Take Silva or Fedor, they will go down as greats GOAT contenders but they are not on the p4p list. And for the last time, just because you think TJ Cruz was not at all close doesnt mean it was,
>>68193442
IIRC neither managed to fully secure a takedown
>>68193372
"Wonderboy could watch my entire training camp, I'm still gonna go in there and whoop is ass"
BASED RORY
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>Kimbo buddeh, I brought your HGH buddeh
>>68193442
TJ took Dom down once in the 4th. Dom took TJ down in the 1st, twice in the 2nd and once more in the 3rd.
>>68193437
Sure, one or two sig strikes, in the end he had hit 3 more, you thinking he did more damage is again a personal opinion, and seing how the judges scored it, it was obviously an unclear decision with rounds going to all over the place and no clear consensus among the judges
>>68193256
Rat kike being a crybaby to milk public sympathy.
>>68193372
btw, i love how these people try to study rory and get nervous because they can't understand why he acts the way he does
you can see robin fidgeting in his seat the entire interview
>>68193391
damage is scored as a criteria, Robbie did more damage in round 3, what you think of damage vs volume is irrelevant because the rules say damage counts and the judges correctly assesed that Lawler did more damage in round 3 which is the one questionable round
>>68193478
So if damage is a nonfactor then we're going by stats? Because Dom clearly wins then in a close fight. 2nd and 3rd were clearly Dom's rounds. 1st is very contentious and 4th Cruz outstruck TJ in sig. an overall strikes.
It's a clear 3 possibly 4 - 2 possible 1 rounds. Either way Cruz had it. The judges fucked the scoring up, woohoo, welcome to mma.
>>68193494
Yeah, although I've never understood it.. Rory always seems like a really mellow guy when I've seen interviews/press. I dunno
>>68193448
the only argument you can make for "control" is Cruz's takedowns that he did nothing with. other than that tj was putting on the pressure and landing almost the same amount of punches but he makes up with his strikes being more significant plus the kicks.
it was a tie if anything
Underrated upsets
>>68193502
Damage is a factor that we both disagree on, I think TJ did more, but I agree about round 2 and 3, im not even saying that TJ won, im saying it should have been a draw because you can't justify round 1 going to either fighter IMO
>>68193372
there's also 11 minutes with Wonderboy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fDmNz_H9HA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fDmNz_H9HA
>>68193448
>TJ missed much more
this means literally nothing fyi
>>68193498
>damage is scored as a criteria
So is strikes landed, takedowns, control, aggression, etc. Even if damage was the only criteria, Carlos won the fight.
>cm punks debut has been completely overshadowed and btfo by bork's return
>>68193525
Rematch is gonna be one for the ages, I think.
>>68193551
that faggot will never fight
>>68193456
I just told you why a few times and the fact that you didn't assimilate it is why I had to call you dumb.
Disregarding whatever happened 5 years ago when comparing 2 people that have have fought in the same periods of time is really stupid.
Dom dominated the division 5 years ago and he dominates it today, this is why he is credible as a top 3 p4p, its not his fault Lawler has been shit for most of his career and just recently barely won a few big fights.
As I said, by your shitty definition of p4p Lawler should be 1 and MM shouldn't even be on it I guess since his division is shit and he dominates it easily.
As a champion Lawler barely won 2 out of 3, doesn't matter how stacked or hard the division is, this doesn't credit him as a top 3 p4p fighter or puts him above someone who has been dominant back then and is dominant today.
Silva or Fedor are not champions nor are winning big fights in the present date, using them in your argument is a bit dull.
You base your argument on the fact that WW is a stacked division so the fact that Lawler barely won 2 fights out of 3 as champion should put him high in a p4p ranking and that's just unreal, if we go by that route MM, Conor should be out of it too since their divisions are arguably shit.
>>68193553
It'll be good, but Cruz will be the decisive winner
>>68193448
if you're basing things off damage than tj is the clear winner.
also tj missing does not amount to points for Dom. i'm so tired of explaining that to everyone.
>>68193549
Strikes landed come after damage, aggression and not grappling control are the lowest criterias and are pretty much never used, see Diaz Condit. And neither fighter had any takedowns
>>68193553
Absolutely agree, the fight to make at Bantamweight
>>68193576
>if you're basing things off damage than tj is the clear winner.
the "damage" was pretty comparable m8
>>68193549
Who won the fight depends on which fighter you focused on.
Watch it once focusing on Lawler and Lawler won. Watch it a second time focusing on Condit and Condit won.
Same goes for Dillashaw - Cruz imo, which is why Dillashaw should have retained his belt.
>This is a 10/10 on /heem/
what did he mean by this?
>>68193599
youre damn fucking right virgin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NpG9P3f4WM
Nooo, jew is unbanned..
Ban him back!
Someone make white house petition to ban him back, fast!
>judging rounds is done by the following criteria, in descending order: effective striking and effective grappling, ring or cage control, and then effective aggressiveness. Only if the striking and grappling are equal do you then even consider the latter two items.
>What defines effective striking? There's another misconception. Yes, it is damage. The "d" word is never written specifically in the unified rules, because at the time leaders were afraid state athletic commissions would shy away from the sport because of the raw terminology. Effective grappling is defined by significant submission attempts more than position. And if a fighter gets a takedown and does absolutely nothing with it, it's not supposed to count for anything unless it's a slam with notable amplitude.
>"What is effective striking?" McCarthy said. "Well, effective striking is strikes that cause damage to the opponent in a way where they are limited in their ability to adjust to, limited in their ability to be offensive off of it and it is affecting their ability to fight effectively against their opponent. That's what a damaging strike is or effective strike. To sit there and say a fighter is not trying to damage their opponent, it's not being honest."
>>68193600
I dunno what did you mean by posting that, that you're a faggot?
>>68193584
Notice the part where I said even if damage was the only criteria, Carlos won. It's true.
>>68193596
You're retarded. Carlos was the clear winner.
>>68193528
>>68193372
I'm massively confident in Rory. I expect it to be like Holzken vs Daniels.
>>68193599
her face is sex
>>68193612
it was fun while it lasted
>>68193569
Ok im running out of time but whatever, p4p is taking into acount how good a fighter is right now when you compare him to the rest of his division also how good that division is, Mighty Mouse should be over Lawler because while the division is weaker he is dominating the division like noone ealse is, Cruz on the other hand has not fought much of the new Bantamweightm, as I said p4p is about how good they are right now compared to the division not how long they held the title or how they were in the past, and right now Dom has had one very close fight with a great fighter and one clear fight with a meh fighter while Lawler had two close fights with great fighters and one clear win against a great fighter which is why I think the should be above Dom not as an all time great but as a current p4p
>>68193576
I have seen a lot of people using TJ's offensiveness as one of the reasons he should have it, its just dumb.
cba going into details and arguing criterias but ya anyone who has watched more than 4 or 5 events should be able to see that Cruz had that fight.
I hope for a rematch though, if TJ keeps his cool during the fight it can be much more entertaining.
Lesnar on 200 interview, with Paul Heyman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJIC2vgtJc#t=2.774791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJIC2vgtJc#t=2.774791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJIC2vgtJc#t=2.774791
>>68193619
Condit's face in comparison.
>>68193596
this
God said bring me 2 niggas who got hands , it's war time , rip kimbo and Ali
On another note, how would you guys rate Faber's first round against Cruz at UFC 199? I felt he did pretty decently all things considered.
>>68193528
If he was 6 or 5 years younger Wonder Boy could've taken ova da fight game.
Surprised he's 33
>>68193620
I'm not sure about that, Rory is nowhere near the striker Holzken is. Also Wonderboy's hands are way better than Daniels'. Also, Holzken–Daniels 2 was a lot closer than the first (despite the stoppage)
>>68193619
Bruises do not mean he did more damage, some people bruise easily and a grazing punch makes more of a mark on the skin than a clean one because of the smaller surface, a knife slash over your face will leave more of a mark than a baseball bat.
Also round 3 is the only relevant round, and Condit obviously did less damage in that round, go watch it.
>>68193619
>>68193632
Yes, I agree.
Not only he won that, he won Hendricks fight too.
>>68193646
Yeah, he looks 5 years younger
>>68193654
>a knife slash over your face will leave more of a mark than a baseball bat.
if youre weak as fuck maybe
We're going to lose another black fighter pretty soon
>>68193561
He is fighting at 202 and if somehow he doesn't I think he will be canned.
>>68193661
no one wants your opinion, slav.
>>68193676
what did he do to deserve a title shot?
>>68193630
vary you're approach a little more. try not saying "you're wrong because you're wrong". it's a serious hole in your game that you'll need to fix if you ever wanna compete with top 5 competition.
>>68193672
Not the point, grazing punches leave more of a mark that a connecting one but they do less damage to the brain which is what counts
>>68193626
>p4p is taking into acount how good a fighter is right now when you compare him to the rest of his division
Lawler arguably lost 2 out of 3 so that shouldn't really make him a dominant champion im sure.
Cruz beat the dominant champion after 3 year off and then destroyed a guy who was doing well, he also doesn't have such a pathetic losing record like Lawler, this is why he is higher.
If you go by that definition of p4p exclusively then Jon Jones shouldn't be on top of that either since was away for a while and looked like shit against OSP
>>68192705
She fought 193 already under USADA goof.
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/10/latest-batch-of-usada-testing-has-45-fighters-including-rousey-holm-belfort-henderson
>>68193704
New
>>68193688
made dana feel guilty. really hope he tires out after a few minutes and robbie just beats the shit out of him for all 5 rounds
>>68193654
>Also round 3 is the only relevant round
So you admit to being a delusional retard. I guess I can chalk this up on my whiteboard as another internet argument won. Better luck next time pal.
>>68193701
Jones is still up there because we know he would beat everyone in the division, but I think MM is above Jones atm. Also Jones layoff was much shorter and the division is pretty much the same
>>68193689
Tj vs Dominick Cruz isn't the main subject under discussion, cba teaching you goofs, even if you say its a disputable win it still won't make robbie lawler, a man with 10 losses and 2 very unclear wins a top 3 p4p fighter, thats the main point.
>>68193715
every judge gave Lawler 2,5, every judge gave Condit 1,4 bye
>>68193688
Robbie needed someone to fight while Rory-Wondermeme plays out
>>68193654
Who do you think won Bisping-Silva?
>>68193719
>because we know he would beat everyone in the division
The same goes for Cruz, who hasn't ever lost at that weight class.
That can't be said about Robbie tho, who has lost before in a fight for the belt and after becoming champion won 2 out of 3 in a very disputable way.
If robbie had won convincingly his last fights then maybe you could make the argument based on the fact that Cruz hasn't been as active but other than that its impossible to put him above Cruz.
>>68193758
The bong himself
>>68193652
As long as he follows the same defensive tactics Holzken used to neutralised Daniels. It makes wonderboy style alot less threatening. I think Firas very tactical guy, he will have Rory knowing what to do.
>>68193436
If Ali's sacrifice made 199 so epic, I hope Kimbo's does with 200. Who should be next? I vote Diego Sanchez because he's an angry little retard and thought he actually beat Ross Pearson.
>>68193785
One last time because the thread is dead. Cruz was out for too long, the division changed to much for his past acomplishments to matter much in the division, most people he beat are at flyweight now, he has two fights to go from Faber and TJ
>>68192679
>single leg from 300 miles away because you don't have any stand up and you're short
deserved it desu
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