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/cfb/ - Offseason General - The Raping Shantytown of Baylor Edition
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The ride never ends

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/15884704/seven-baylor-bears-recruits-ask-national-letters-intent

Also taking requests for updating map. Feel free to contribute to my autism.
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>my face when people actually think the team with the best defense and a top 10 offense in the country will miss the playoffs next season

>Brandon Peters (objectively and statistically the best QB in the 2016 recruiting class, it isn't even debatable)
>Ty Isaac (best RB in the game who will be 100% healthy, unlike the entirety of last year. he will put up 1200+YDs/10+TDs/5.0YPC)
>Jake Butt (a top 3 TE already going into this season, 1000+YDs/7+TDs)
>Sean McKeon (literally a Jake Butt-clone)
>Amara Darboh (top 10 WR, 900+YDs/5+TDs)
>Jabril Peppers (a black guy trapped in a black's body, one of the smartest players in football, elite measurables, incredible upside)
>Kareem Walker (one of the fastest and most explosive players in football)
>Joe Beneducci (best blocking FB in country)

>Best pass rush in the B1G
>Best LB corp in the B1G
>Besy secondary in the country
>Top 5 D-Line

Barring major injuries to key players, there is literally no way the Wolverines are missing the playoffs this season

The Michigan B1G championship drought ends in 2016-2017

You can't prove me wrong

Cap it
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>>68030466
First for serious autism, and dubs checked.

You can't just expect 124 nicknames to just catch on, homie.
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>>68030807
>makes new thread
>receives copypasta
>deletes thread
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>>68030839
some of them are agreed upon by espee. like i said if you have a gud one, just add on to it
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>>68030931
I dunno, I'd say find the rough location of every SBC team and put the words "Literally Who?"
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>>68030931
USC has ua couple nicknames around here, my favorite is Uppity Spoiled Children

U$C is shorter though, and "the broken condoms" is catchier
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>>68031200
Just draw an outline of where they're kinda located and in the middle put "Here Be Dragons"
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G- go gators...
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>>68031266
Yay...
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>>68031173
well yeah, the PAC cares about academics too, but by that standard there really isn't any good realistic options left within the region that they can get. so it was just something fun to think about, cause I had never heard much about colorado rivalries outside of the Big XII.

>>68031240
I had heard that about Air Force too, which is a bit of a buzzkiller, but things could still change 20 years from now. Same with BYU. Hell, it might be even sooner depending on how the financial landscape of college football changes, because if huge dominoes start falling in major realignment, then some schools will tend to consider options that they normally wouldn't when things are more stable. from what I heard before, the other californian schools were willing to negotiate and strike out some sort of deal with BYU, it was only berkeley that was taking the hardline stance based on "muh principles". That could change if the money starts talking, expansion is needed before they get left behind, and options are scarce and dwindling.

not that that's the case now, but the future is always uncertain.
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>>68031385
Here's a list of all the realistic expansion targets for the PAC:

Thank you for your time.
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The Pac-12 needs to add a school in Nevada, it's map bugs me almost as much as having WVU in the Big XII. Maybe add teams from Idaho and New Mexico too.
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>>68031471
This, pretty much. The only way the Pac-12 expands now is if they get the Texas and Oklahoma schools and jump to 16. It could definitely happen, but I don't see it as terribly likely.
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>>68031567

Rock Cock
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>>68031583
if they wanted to get OU, would they really have to take Diet Oke too? I've been hearing conflicting things from people about that situation and it all sounds like hearsay and personal interpretation. I roughly know a bit of the legal situation more or less and it doesn't sound binding, but I wonder if they could still put a stop to any deal regardless, if that deal involved OU being able to jump to another P5 and OSU got booted down to some shittier one cause nobody wanted them. I hear it's not a carbon copy of the situation with the kansas schools, either.
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>>68031385
>I had never heard much about colorado rivalries outside of the Big XII.

That's because there weren't really rivalries outside the Big 8/12. Nebraska was always the big rival. Before joining the Pac in 2011 Utah and Colorado hadn't played each other since like the 1960s. There's also Colorado State, but that's only been an annual game for ~20 years and the series is supposed to end (as an annual game, anyway) in a few years. It's a lot bigger now than when I was a kid, but in the Big 8 days CU saw that one in terms of importance kind of like how Oklahoma saw Oklahoma State back when Nebraska and Texas were both annual games. Basically, they're rivals and it's the big game for the little brother school, but the larger/more successful school saw it as something of an afterthought compared to their "big" rivalries.
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>>68031676
Want some of this dick?
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>>68031578
>>68031583
Fixed that for you fizzam
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>>68031680

No the state legislature would force them to accept OK St. as a part of the deal.

The same goes for Texas tech and Texas.

It's the reason why they tried to move all 4 into the PAC years ago.

If you want Oklahoma or Texas you take Tech or OK St too. The state governments aren't letting their schools get demolished when its already been proven OU and presumably Texas can get into the CFP with a shit big 12.
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>>68031740

Jaycock?
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>>68031680
They're not tied at the hip through the legislature or anything like that, although the state would probably be pissed if they split up under circumstances other than necessity (i.e. it's apparent the Big 12 isn't long for this world and Oklahoma has a life raft that Okie Lite doesn't). They also kind of have a mentality of they have each other's backs. They're both state-funded schools, but they're entirely different systems and completely independent of each other, so their sticking together isn't mandated by anyone or anything, it's more of a gentlemens' agreement than any firm requirement.
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>>68031781
>tfw this year is the year
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>>68031217
>implying rich people use condoms

Uppity Spoiled Children or University of Spoiled Children is the preferred nomenclature.
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>>68031764
I heard it was the other way around with texas, the PAC was more than willing to take texas and let them KEEP the LHN too, so long as they turned it into one of their PAC Regional Networks and shared its coverage and revenue equally with its local partner like the other PAC schools did, in this case Tech. that was apparently the deal killer for UT though because they weren't willing to share with anybody.

as far as the oklahoma schools go, I had looked up some stuff from their beat writers trying to explain the exact legal situation involved, it was a while back but it sounded far less legally binding than people make it sound. apparently there's like this administration or something separate from the board of regents, made up of guys who happen to be officials from both schools, but it has no power to impose anything on anyone. it sounded very weird and confusing, and all I could take from it is that saying that OU and OSU are a package deal is a combination of wishful thinking and trying to create leverage for OSU should any deal be on the table.

however, if it means the big xii will sink either way and there's an offer for OU to get out but not OSU, supposedly they'd let it go through. so it all depends on the stakes, apparently.
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>supposing the Big 12 do this or that
The last major conference with this much fuckery was the old Big East, they finally had to collapse, clean house, and re-brand themselves. If the Big 12 doesn't get their shit together (or get a team into the playoff this season), they absolutely need to get their house in order.

But they are fuckstupid, the conference could literally die at any time, UT won't leave cuz it lies having its bitches, but that means zero of the other teams have a reason to stay. There are better TV deals in literally any other P5 conference.

This is a conference run by morons, in a state governed by morons.
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>it's another conference realignment thread
Do you autists talk about football?
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>>68031839
>>implying rich people use condoms
I'm pretty sure it's a slight against the kind of people that go there and where the campus is located. south central LA is a world apart from westwood, after all.

regardless of how much sense it makes, it sounds better as an insult after all.
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>>68031950
Coming up next on ESPN:
"What if I told you that the midwest didn't learn from the Big East's example?"
Requiem for the Big XII - a 30 for 30 film.
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>>68031962
there's no football to talk in June
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>>68030807

>couldnt beat Ohio State or Michigan state last year
>magically going to beat them both next year

LEL
E
L
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>>68031200
>LITERALLY >US
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>>68032463
>MSU and OSU both regressed
>Michigan improved
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>>68032583
>this is what Bitchigan fans actually believe
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>>68032472
>New Mexico State dropped
>not picked up by anyone
>MWC would rather pick up UTEP than NMSU
Las Cruces confirmed for shanty town?
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>>68032666
Harbaugh is the best football coach out of the 3 tho
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>>68032982
how many national championships has he won?
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>>68032982
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>>68032990
>>68032995
Urban Meyer is the best recruiter but Harbaugh coaches up his players better.
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>>68031567
Will we even win one?
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>>68031950

I wouldn't be surprised if it dies this year. OU sounds pissed, it could very well be a shell this time in 2017. Last time I heard this much outrage about a conference is when Missouri & A&M left.
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>>68033023
>Rhode Island
>Ohio
>Iowa state
>Texas
All wins baby
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>>68033016
Same thing situation with him and Pete Carroll in the pros, remind me again how that turned out for him?
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>>68033052
>is when Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri & A&M all left because Texas was a little bitch
fixed that for you
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>>68033112
I just said Harbaugh was a better coach. I didn't say anything about championships m80
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>>68033169
can you give a metric besides championships to explain how harbaugh is better than meyer?
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>>68033260
More superb owl appearances
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>>68033169
And his team was beatdown and made into carroll's team's bitch, so how does that prove any point you try to make?
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>>68033417
I'm just saying harbaugh is a better coach.
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>>68033511
stay safe from floods and horny latina schoolteachers, pham
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fixed the map for you guys
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>>68033695
I've never seen that Tennessee logo before. Is that for the alternate uniforms?
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>>68033734
>that Tennessee logo
m8
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>>68033695
>#2 team in the state
>Still irrelevant
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>>68033821
wew lad
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>>68033821
of states with 2 or more FBS teams, is there a less relevant #2 than LaTech?

I don't think there is.
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>>68033890
K state
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>>68033887
what is wew about that? It proves my point..
LSU is the #1 team in the state.
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>>68033890
>>68033887
>>68033821
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>>68033764
Oh is it a Texas thing?
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>>68033919
everybody knows Bill Snyder. K-State was more or less a national power in the Collin Klein years.
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>>68033890
also, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, Idaho, and Arkansas. I'm sure there are a couple I'm missing
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>>68034002
>0 (zero) BCS bowls
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>>68033890
Oregon, Ohio for the most part, and Idaho
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>>68030466
>tfw offseason
>been having to browse r/cfb
>decide to check up on /sp/ for first time in forever since I don't watch boreball, apehoop, or hockey on a regular basis
>there's actually a fucking /cfb/ general on the first page with a multitude of posters and fans of many teams
>mfw
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>>68034002
>K-State was more or less a national power in the Collin Klein years.
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>>68034008
Utah and BYU have both have been national powers.

Idaho is a year away from only having 1 fbs team, but you win there (for now).

Same with New Mexico.

Arkansas State = Louisiana Tech
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>>68034111
You have to go back
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>>68034008
Nevada and NM's most relevant teams are less relevant than LaTech. Throw in Montana, Wyoming, and both Dakotas too. (FCS is always less relevant than FBS.)
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>>68034126
Only somebody who attended that shithole would say that for sure
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>>68034126
in 2012 they were ranked #1 overall for a while
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>>68034158
North Dakota State University has received more coverage in the past 4 years than Louisiana Tech has in their history.
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>>68034186
>ranked #1 for a couple of weeks
>national power
Pick one
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>>68034136
r/cfb isn't that bad and people actually post there in the offseason. Last year there were like two /cfb/ threads here all offseason bruh. What else can I do?
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>>68034284
Beside the point.

When was the last time Louisiana Tech was ranked #1 overall?
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>>68034348
They're consistently a top 5 team in dynasty mode on NCAA 14. That's gotta count for something...
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>>68033052

Outrage?

That's the opposite of what people felt when they left.

>>68031927

Texas wanted its own network, the deal is those 4 for a reason. No one wants to piss off people to the point of possibly losing funding or flagship status.

Texas is super faggot about the LHN though, and will require it anywhere they go.

Even if da 12s sink, OU and Ok st will stay together, same with Texas and Tech. Unless Texas decides to make itself a private school and go independent.
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>>68034127
>Arkansas State = Louisiana Tech
26-12 all time vs. them, including a blw out this past bowl season
Notable Ark St players all time: ???
Notable Tech Players all time: Terry Bradshaw, Kenneth Dixon, Fred Dean, Willie Roaf, Troy Edwards, Tim Rattay, Ryan Allen
Arkansas St 1st round nfl picks: 0(Zero)
LA Tech 1st round nfl picks: 4, including one this year
Arkansas St all americans: 0 (Zero)
LA Tech all americans: 3
Arkansas St all time record: .489 (98th overall)
LA Tech all time record: .568 (48th all time)

>>68034346
there was a /cfb/ thread every few days in the offseason last year, especially in the summer
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>>68034346
Watch a different sport you pleb
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>>68034396
They'll go independent, stay in the big 12, or drop LHN. No conference is going to take them otherwise.
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>>68034348
True. I think when Bill Snyder dies k state will be able to give Louisiana tech a run for their money in irrelevance
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>>68034408
I think anon meant arkansas state is equal to LA tech in terms of irrelevance in their own state, compared the states in>>68034008
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>>68034408
TIM RATTAY?!?!?
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>mfw Messiah wins won for da EL
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>>68034408
>there was a /cfb/ thread every few days in the offseason last year, especially in the summer
Yeah I remember posting here last summer now. Feel like they were very sparse until August though.
>>68034424
No can do man. I'm a transplant so I don't get any of my team's games in those sports. Not that interested in regular season boreball or NBA anyway.
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>>68034445

They can bully someone into taking the LHN

But they will just prop up the big 12 forever instead.
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>>68034531
>won
oops
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>>68034545
MAYBE the PAC or ACC (wouldn't join them anyway), but definitely not the B1G or SEC.
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>>68034543
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>>68034602

Theres no reason for them to leave.

As long as they beat notre dame and win the conference they will get into the CFP.

Why would they want to be in a conference that makes it harder to get into the playoffs?

All the big 12 being shit does is fuck over teams not named UT Austin or UT Norman.
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>>68034396
>Texas is super faggot about the LHN though, and will require it anywhere they go.
So, FBS Independent, then.
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>>68034408
Last year's off season threads where just people disputing natties from the 40s.
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>>68034756
would make everyone better off Tbh
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>>68034762
Better than people pretending they know shit about conference expansion/contraction
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>>68034762

>implying Princeton isn't the GOAT
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>>68034838
what would be the next move for the Big XII then, though? if they can keep the ESPN money for now and bring in a chump for filler, how much longer will they be able to last? if some legal shit happens and their TV deal is dead with UT's exit, then what?
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>>68034870
>implying anyone knows shit about it
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>>68034907

Depends on what UT Norman does.

Most likely Houston and some other teams get picked up by another conference.

But Texas wont leave because that would be fucking stupid.
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>>68034907
The only big loss is OU at that point. other mediocre teams would fuck off to G5, TCU could go back to the MW(?), Baylor loses football altogether, Tech also MW. OU and OK state tho could go PAC i guess
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>>68034902
>He thinks there was a team better than the 1899 Sewanee Tigers
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>>68034965
Texas won't leave. They relish the power they have in the XII too much to go independent.

They need Nebraska back imo. The Big XII is missing some sick flyover bantz. Oh and add Houston.
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>>68034965
well they wouldn't want to leave if things remain as they are now, they got the comfy end of the deal. things could change soon though, especially if OU gets sick of their shit.

>Big XII collapses and every team except Texas leaves
>Texas still claims it plays in the Big XII, essentially a one-team conference
>No different than just being an independent
hyperbole of course, but they seem super stubborn, stupid, and greedy.
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>>68035119
>Baylor loses football altogether
stopped reading there, though I should have stopped sooner.
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>>68035119
I don't think the PAC would have nearly as much interest in an OU deal that has no UT and also forces them to take OSU. they might do it if they could get texas, or just an oklahoma solo deal though.
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>>68035221
don't you have some coeds to rape?
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While I guess TCU is technically a Christian school, I live here and its basically just a bunch of spoiled white girls and local Mexicans who made good grades
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>>68032472
Needs Chattanooga and JMU tbqh, though I understand the want to move westward (any schools trying to make the jump in Texas/Oklahoma/Mississippi?)

They need to stop holding out and realize that CUSA ain't calling either of them.
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>>68035261
Not a bearfag.

But those spoiled baptists in Waco just got a small taste of FBS success, and they'll sink unreasonable amounts of money into their program to keep it going.
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>>68031567
>Hi guys my name is Irrelevant. how are you today?
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>>68035456
By being historically bad, ku has managed to stay more relevant than k state in football. It's pretty funny 2bh
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>>68034053
>not knowing that they won a fiesta bowl against Syracuse when the bowl alliance was in place

kill yourself
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>>68035491
How much pull does basketball have in realignment compared to football? Like maybe 1/10th? If basketball mattered much any conference would kill to have kansas, and forget that k-state even exists. Kansas is more well known in every sport now.
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>>68035536
What?
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>>68035491
Not really. K-State's wizard coach and their 90s run, along with their 2003 and 2012 runs keep them pretty relevant. Doubt they will be that good again before Snyder leaves though.

KU had 2007, a year which they didn't even deserve to be in a BCS bowl. They also don't have a single conference championship post-1970.
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Will never happen: the scenario, but can anyone imagine how fucking amazing it would be if just Texas and Oklahoma went to the SEC? Okie State and TTU can fuck off, it'd be the best damn conference since the SoCon actually mattered.
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>>68033887

>Finishing a game with 2 points
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>>68035614
KU got more press for winning 0 games and for Charlie Weis telling recruits that his team was ass than k state got for anything
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>>68035584
>No conference championships since 1968
>Getting your ass kicked by Snyder since he arrived
>Being proud for a game against shitty opponent that you had no business playing against anyways
>KSU has been to 3 Fiesta bowls and has won one

It's like you're trying to be a faggot.
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>>68035639
A&M would be pissed
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>reminder that that JAWJA has not won a Natty since the Talking Heads released their masterpiece Remain in Light and with that I will leave you with a song I wrote to the tune of Once in a Lifetime
And you may find yourself
Living in a trailer park in Athens
And you may find yourself
Wishing you were cheering for another team
And you may find yourself
Smoking meth and barking like a dawg
And you may find yourself beating off to a picture of Herschel Walker
With a worn out Hines Ward jersey
And you may ask yourself, well
What did I do to deserve this?

Letting the wins slip by, choking every chance we get
Letting the wins slip by, putting the blame on Richt and Goff
Crying ourselves to sleep after the games are lost
Once in a lifetime, never will win again
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>>68035685
Fair enough
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>the last time Kansas was relevant in football, Obama had just won the presidency
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>>68035645
>australian doesn't know basic football rules
Would it help if he posted it upside down to make it easier to read??
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>>68035711
They could be the #1 program in Texas right now if they didn't fuck themselves with bad coaching and player discipline issues. They have nobody to blame but themselves. Fuck the faggies.

t. Alabama Student
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>>68035698
Mad about oranges?
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>>68035736
>Obama became president 8 years ago

Christ how the time flies.
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>>68035765
No, I'm a Husker fan. I'm just happy we have historically buttfucked both of you.

Plus, if I was a K-Stater, I would be happy with going to a top-tier bowl once every 7 years or so like they do and going to bowl games every other year, instead of being proud of one game which Mizzou should have been playing.
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USC DID NOTHING WRONG
IT WAS AN AGENT COMPLETELY UNASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL WHO GAVE GIFTS TO BUSH'S PARENTS
IT WAS NOT THE SCHOOL. IT WAS NOT REGGIE BUSH. CARROLL MIGHT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT HE DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AGAINST THE RULES.
THE SCHOOL DID LITEREALLY NOTHING WRONG.
THE PENALTY WAS BULLSHIT.
DOZENS OF OTHER SCHOOLS HAVE DONE MUCH MUCH WORSE THINGS SINCE THEN AND RECEIVED NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
EVERYONE WHO WATCHED USC DEMOLISH OKLAHOMA KNOWS WHO WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP THAT YEAR. BUSH EVEN HAD ALMOST NO IMPACT IN THAT GAME, YET THEY STILL OBLITERATED THE SOONERS.
ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT
2011 TROJANS ENDED THE SEASON WINNING 7 OF 8 AND COULD HAVE BEATEN ANY TEAM IN THE NATION.
BUT THEY WERE BANNED FROM THE POSTSEASON FOR AN ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING SANCTION.
BUSH DID NOTHING WRONG. CARROLL DID NOTHING WRONG. USC DID NOTHING WRONG.
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>>68035736
KU was relevant last year for having a reverse perfect season
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>>68035834
The sanctions are gone and you still haven't done shit. No excuses.
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>>68035834
are we in 2010?
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>>68035161

I hated the other 3 that left, but I want Nebraska back so bad...

They want them back too and they know it.
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>>68035834
This is now a NCAA doggo thread.
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>>68035828
>I'm a husker fan
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I guess farm schools stick together

Also your basketball team is gonna get rekt in the phog in December
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>>68035869
BECAUSE THEY TOOK AWAY DOZENS OF SCHOLARSHIPS FOR YEARS
YOU TRY WINNING GAMES WHEN YOU LITERALLY HAVE LESS PLAYERS THAN THE OTHER TEAM
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>>68035907
Husker here. Nope, I'll stay in the big with the FIghtin Harbaughs. Fuck Texas for forcing out the old powers in the first place. You're stuck with those cunts.
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>>68035940
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>>68035915
>basketball
>in a cfb thread

who fucking cares? your bragging about the fourth most popular sport professionally
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>>68035834
over a decade later and it's STILL hilarious

keep on being scumbags you fuckin trojans, you're the best despicable bastards a conference could ask for.
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>>68035958

Have fun recruiting in not Texas while Harbaughs and Meyers, and even Dantonios take all the players you might want, and steal outta your backyard.
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>>68035958
>still being this salty that Colt got the ball out of bounds with one second left

Seriously though Suh probably played the most dominant college game I've ever seen that night
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>Team A beating Team B
>fans of B bring up academics
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>>68035982
Since you're a Husker fag I have to ask you something. Why are all Husker fans so retardedly delusional when the team hasn't been good in decades?
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>>68035999
I'm salty that we didn't win, but it was the right call.

>>68035996
Not like those Texas recruits did us any good during the Big 12 days. If Riley's California pipeline ends up working out, who fucking needs Texas?
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>>68036021
It's a coping mechanism.
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>>68036041
>convincing CA recruits to come to nebraska
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>>68036012
Sounds like Vandy every time they get their ass kicked by any team in the SEC.
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>>68036041

You see the problem with this is, Mike Riley is still your coach in the end.
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>>68036110
>Do you like corn, son?
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>>68036012
>every big 10 school
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>>68036021
Most of us realize we will never be 90s good ever again. That was a special time that cannot repeat unless huge changes happens to the CFB landscape, which none of us see happening.

However, as a historically good program with rich tradition, the right hire can make us a decent team again. We hated Pelini because he did not progress Nebraska at all. The blowouts, the shitty recruiting, the horrible game plans, we had enough. All Nebraska needs is the right hire and they can become a team that regularly ends with 10-11 wins, with an occasional conference title. That's all we want.

With Bo's shitty recruits and gameplans, we ended with 4 losses every year. That should tell you that a coaching upgrade could bring us to a higher level.
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>>68036136
I'm willing to give him another chance before I call for the boot.

If he comes out this year with 8 wins or more, I'll give him one more year to build a respectable team.
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>>68036177
>never be 90s good again

let's be real. If Saban decided to coach at Nebraska for shits and giggles, you'd have a Husker natty within 5 years.
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>>68036177
Not even a midwestfag but god this post reeks of both delusion AND entitlement, you guys must all be real insufferable douchebags.
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>>68036215
True, but the odds that a Nick Saban or Urban Meyer comes to coach at Nebraska are nil. I could see us throwing dough at Tom Herman or Scott Frost if Riley doesn't deliver, but I can't see us getting much better.
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>>68036209
You're stupid as shit. I'm a Huskers fan and I wanted him gone last year. I never wanted him to begin with. I want Art Briles.
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>>68036269

Good man, I like your thinking.
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>>68030931
I'd change SCAR to Sakerlina
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>>68036269
Raping is legal in Nebraska, right?
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>>68036243
Care to explain how it's unreasonable to expect success from a program that is 1st in conference titles, 4th in total wins, and has sold out their stadium for over 50 straight years?

The fanbase wants results. Location means we won't be great every year, but to expect a great team once every few years is to be expected. Welcome to the real world, faggot.
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>>68030807

fellow M fan here...

>Brandon Peters (objectively and statistically the best QB in the 2016 recruiting class, it isn't even debatable)

he has like a 1% chance of getting meaningful minutes this year. it's between speight and o'korn, and honestly the qb position is the biggest question mark for this team. peters should be great in the future though.

>Ty Isaac (best RB in the game who will be 100% healthy, unlike the entirety of last year. he will put up 1200+YDs/10+TDs/5.0YPC)

he played himself out of the RB rotation last year. due to fumbles, not an injury. Smith is likely going to get the most carries. hopefully isaac can get it together though... seems a bit soft tbqh

>Sean McKeon (literally a Jake Butt-clone)

class of 2016 3* ...not going to do anything this year.

>Kareem Walker (one of the fastest and most explosive players in football)

great prospect but true frosh that will get minimal carries. honestly if he gets a lot of touches that's probably bad news.

why didn't you mention rashan gary, the #1 recruit in the country, or Jehu Chesson, who is arguably the top WR?

playoffs are a possibility, but MSU and OSU game are both away this year. honestly OSU is probably going back to the playoffs this year. but who knows, harbaugh made huge strides pretty much every single year when he was coaching college football previously. I'm excited to see the new defense. should be exciting.

in the end if we lose to MSU and OSU again, the season is a failure. I don't care if we win every other game and a bowl game. gotta get a rivalry game this year. 0-4 start for harbaugh would be bad.

inb4 >we
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>it's a "your coach is going to go 6-6 again and get fired" episode
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>>68036288
>>68036316
If I can't get Briles, I'm going to give 1 billion dollars to Pete Carroll.
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>>68036269
Right, fire a coach after one year and see who will want to come here.

I fucking hate the Riley hire too, but let's be realistic here.
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>>68036343
You should have never fired Chizik or Tubs.
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>>68036343

You should have fired tubs twice
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>>68036324
>two Florida teams
>two Texas teams
>two California teams
>two Ohio teams
>hurr state
>Hawaii
>east carolina
>last team will be the winner of the non power conference playoff
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>>68035119
OU would go B1G if anything.
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>>68036324
West:
boise state
colorado state
UH
NIU
utah state
southern miss


East:
Temple
marshall
app state
memphis
GA southern
WKU
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>>68036344
no he's ours
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>>68036336
You know that the post you replied to is a shitty pasta remake from /nfl/ right?
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>>68032923
why does new mexico state even have a team
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>>68036453
Two billion dollars to take him.
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>>68036448
strike that. BGSU instead of marshall in the East
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>>68036324
"The Small XII"
>West
Houston
Boise State
Fresno State
Lousiana Tech
Air Force
SDSU

>East
Memphis
NIU
Temple
UCF
Navy
Cincy
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>>68036462

I saved his reply to make a shitty reply pasta with too
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Post teams that you hate irrationally (not a rival, no major scandals or any real reason to hate).

>Tennessee
>Georgia
>Michigan
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>>68036317
>Care to explain how it's unreasonable to expect success
You don't expect success, you work hard for it and hope it happens, and revel in it when it does. But you don't demand it and throw a fit when it doesn't happen. That's manchild behavior.

>firing a coach who ONLY had 4 losses a season
pathetic
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>>68036528
>Wake Forest
>Slippery Rock
>CSU-Pueblo
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>Kansas
>South Carolina
>Alabama
>BYU
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>>68036528
>NC state
>georgetown
>fresno state
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>>68036464
Because El Paso had one too and they needed to project their imagined rivalry onto them or something.
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>>68036462

no I didn't know that. don't visit "the chan" that much.
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>>68034762
>hating ivyposting/historical cfb fights
You're gay
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>>68035161
I miss the old Big 12 so fucking much. What a great conference.

>Colorado when they were good
>Nebraska when they were good
>Missouri when they were good
>Texas A&M

and now we have

>TCU, who probably only appears to be good when the blooblods are bad
>fucking WVU
>a total of 10 (ten) teams
>worst geography except maybe the American
>at least 10 great rivalries ended forever
>bound to break up and create less tight-knit than ever super conferences with enormous distances between teams
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>>68034762
oh fuck I remember that
was great
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>>68036448
I'd enjoy following this conference tbqhwy
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>>68036571
As a fan who invests their money into tickets and merchandise, yes you do expect success. Hw the fuck is a fan supposed to work hard to make the team succeed? Protip: you fucking can't. With that logic, Texas shouldn't expect to be good again because that's "manchild behavior"

Are you fucking retarded? Let's look at some of Bo's signature losses:

2009: Iowa State (WTF)
2010: Texas, Texas A&M, Washington
2011: Wisconsin (Blowout), Michigan (Blowout), South Carolina (Blowout)
2012: Ohio State (Blowout), Wisconsin (MAJOR Blowout)
2013: Minnesota (WTF), UCLA (Blowout), Michigan State (Blowout), Iowa (Blowout)
2014: Wisconsin (Blowout)

Do you think any other blue blood program would stand for this? Maybe 4 losses is something your shitty team would tolerate, but think of USC, Tennessee, and Texas? Should they tolerate 4 shitty losses and a terrible record against ranked opponents? No, they shouldn't. They are premier programs, and Nebraska is factually one too.

Again, you have no argument.
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>>68035685
>Charlie Weis telling recruits that his team was ass
wat
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GOAT ALIGNMENT COMING THROUGH

>Pac 10
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Stanford
Texas
Oklahoma
Washington
Utah
TCU
BYU

>Big Ten
OSU
Michigan
Mich State
Pedo State
Notre Dame
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Pitt

>SEC
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas A&M
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Arkansas
Mississippi
Mississippi State

>ACC
Florida State
Miami
Clemson
North Carolina
NC State
Virginia
West Virginia
Georgia Tech
Louisville
BC

Round robin conference schedule. Top 3 teams make playoff. 1st place gets 1st round bye

Each conference has a second division of lesser geographically appropriate teams that can earn promotion to A league to replace last place team
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>>68036336
>replying to pasta from Tiki

Awful table manners fampai
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>>68036727
>PACIFIC 10
>Texas, Oklahoma
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>68036717
>Tennessee
>blue blood
Nah son. It's established that there are only 7. Nebraska does not enjoy that status either. Very close, but not quite.
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>>68036727
Every one of the SEC/PAC teams can compete for the chip. Those would demolish every other conference
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>>68036324
>West
San Diego St
Boise St
Colorado St
Air Force
Houston
Northern Illinois

>East
Memphis
Navy
UConn
Toledo
Cincinnati
Central Florida (I guess)
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>>68036727
>relegation
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>>68036717
You've actually internalized the delusion so far that you've resolved your cognitive dissonance by attempting to justify it with reason. Well done, at least you've done the whole entitlement bit properly instead of half-assing it. Here ends my replies to you sir, have fun ranting about how I didn't respond with facts to your fallacious argument. I don't want to catch the nebraska.
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>>68036430
I really feel that WVU would benefit more as a B1G school, the geographical factor alone make more sense. I u sets tabs though that with the college football landscape today, that doesn't matter. You're most likely right, but OU might try for the EEC first.
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>>68036721
During Big 12 media day he said that he convinces recruits to come to ku by telling them the team is terrible so they could get a ton of playing time
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>>68036762
Id rather go to the Big Ten too fampaipai
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>>68035723
kek

if a g-kek fan wrote this they're much worse off though, even though they won one in 1990
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>Baylor going up in flames
>Big 12 screwing over walk-ons

OU needs to go independent for 2017, fuck the Big 12, fuck Texas and fuck OSU.
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>>68036727
B league:

>PAC
Mountain West

>B1G
MAC

>ACC
CUSA

>SEC
AAC

>Big XII
Sun Belt
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>>68036772
Based on a completely arbitrary line you have drawn? Because, again, the huskers are 4th in total wins, have 5 nattys. and are #1 in conference championships. How do you determine who is blue blood and who is not? I go by teams that are top ten in wins that boast at least 2 national titles. They are:

Michigan
Notre Dame
Texas
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Alabama
Tennessee
Ohio State
Penn State
USC

To claim Nebraska is not a blue blood is absolute lunacy.
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>>68035828
I honestly can't think of anything worse than being a Huskers fan right now. Your history tricks you into high expectations yet you have no reason to expect anything better than South Carolina.
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>>68036809
There is nothing left to say here. I enjoy a steady debate, and I would fully concede if you can fully prove we do not deserve success. I never thought using logic and reason would be frowned upon, but whatever.
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>>68036792
Washington, UCLA, TAMU, MissSt., Arkansas, Utah, BYU, etc aren't making a ship. UCLA and TAMU could maybe come close as far as recruiting but their chances are realistically about as good as Iowa or Gtech. OU wouldn't join the PAC or SEC anyway. They'd go B1G and be reunited with Nebraska.
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>>68036798
>not wanting to see a sloppy late November spaghettifest between Minnesota and Purdue with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line
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>>68036861
>Michigan
>1 chip since 1950

>Tennessee
>1 chip since 1951

"no"
the rest is right on
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>>68036861
I think Nebraska has to go back to the formula that won them those championships:
>run the triple option
>play hard 4-3 downhill defense
>be a beast special teams unit
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>>68036515
I know you need western teams but ECU would be a better choice than Louisiana Tech
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>>68036879
You could have said that to Oklahoma in the 90s, and Alabama in the 00s, and USC in the 90s as well. All it takes is a good hire and Nebraska can win conference championships again.

I am NOT expecting to be competing with the likes of Alabama or Ohio State every year. I would be satisfied with a conference title once every 5 years or so.
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>>68036918
What the fuck are you on about?

Michigan last won a shared title in 97, Tennessee won it in 1999.
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USC will win a natty this season.
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When it gets to 16-team superconferences, shouldn't they just be split up again into conferences that are their old divisions? Then the old conference championship game becomes something like a dedicated extra bowl game with the other old division. If we got that, you'd actually be able to schedule your entire conference again. If they could just make it so that every conference had a cap at 8 and only the champions of the top 8 conferences each year qualify for the 8 team playoff, it'd be perfect.

You could re-sort the rankings of which conferences are considered top 8 every year, and it would take top-to-bottom conference strength and all OOC games into account, not just the heavyweight teams and big games. That way they'd be less able to pad their schedule or conference members with chumps. If they're a top 8 conference anyways, they can afford to travel across the country, so you don't need forced regional-only membership and can just put together a conference of worthy teams.
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>>68036981
exactly, they each have 1 since the 50s
1[ONE] chip is absolutely not blueblood
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>>68036861
I go 2 Natties after WWII, and at least a .700 win %. That leaves 7.
>Michigan
>Alabama
>Ohio state
>USC
>Texas
>OU
>Notre Dame

Penn St. and Nebraska are coach babbies who will probably never be perennial contenders again. Tennessee has a shot if they can ever beat Florida and Bama.
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>>68036374
>Chizik
why man

we went to the natty with his players the very next year, which variable do you think had us 3-9?
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>>68036918
I see the argument for excluding Tennessee, as well as Penn State, but Michigan has fielded some decent teams over the years and are #1 in total wins. Michigan has had down years, but they are consistantly good.

Plus, the reason they did not get as many championships has a lot to do with the old Big 10's agreement with the Rose Bowl.
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>>68036956
You have to compete with Ohio State every year, man. That's why the Huskers were brought in. To be another high mark program to challenge Ohio State.
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>>68036993
they won't even win their division
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>>68036993
this
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>>68037027
So I can see you lose to my Dawgs every year.
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>>68036993
>a natty
Not in football. Sure, maybe there's some women's swimming or something they can win
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>>68037023
Well by that list, Nebraska should still be on it. Just because you don't think they'll be good again doesn't remove them from that list, because that perspective is entirely subjective.
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>>68037015
Agreed about UT but Michigan is a blueblood. Ships before the BCS aren't all that important.
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Georgia will be unstoppable this season, we'll be the Bama of the east thanks to Kirby "I'm very" Smart. Go ahead and hand us the trophy now! Go Dawgs!!!
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>>68032116
This.

"UT makes the most money, so they deserve the biggest slice of pie!"

Then the other members fucking starve to death, and there's no one to make you pie.

Buncha GOP motherfuckers. The other four conferences are socialist as fuck and thriving. Die in a fire, good ol' boys.
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>>68037015
You realize the idea of the blue blood teams aren't decided by what happened after 1950, right? These are programs that existed in the 1910s. So just by success and length alone l, they are blue blood keystone programs.
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>>68037042
And I expect to challenge Ohio State every so often, but I do not expect us to compete to their level every year. Ohio State just has too much that we don't.
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>>68036861

>no Ivys

Shit list
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>>68036956
None of those teams have ever gone 17 years without winning a title. Ever.
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>>68032472
FUUUCKKK YEAHHHH NYEGGGGAAAA

>No NMSU
They're yours to deal with through 2017, bitch-ass.
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>>68037094
The BCS championships are not relevant anymore either, then. Only the CFP championships matter.
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Any definition of blue blood that doesn't include Michigan and Notre Dame should be laughed out of existence.
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>>68037080
Nebraska and Tennessee are what I consider to be the best of the rest. It's just hard with Nebraska because almost all of their success came under one coach.
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>>68037067
that may not be far off, iirc they have one of the better water polo teams right now in both men and women's. I think they were also good in men's golf and women's tennis, or maybe the other way around.
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If YOU could magically bestow a Top 5 football program on ANY university in the United States, who would it be?

>pic related. University of Alaska at Fairbanks
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>>68032923
>MWC would rather pick up UTEP
Citation needed.

CUSA only picked up UTEP in '05 because their facilities were marginally better than other candidates. UNT (and UTSA, which didn't even have football at the time) have closed that gap and surpassed it.

Choosing between UTEP and NMSU at this point is like choosing between one girl with syphilis and another with herpes.
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Any definition of blue blood that doesn't include Princeton and Yale should be laughed out of existence.
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>>68037123
Please explain why a conference title drought should effectively render Nebraska incapable of competing again.

By that logic, Michigan State, TCU, Baylor, and Oregon should not be competitive.
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>>68037192
Agreed.
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>>68036177
>Most of us realize we will never be 90s good ever again. That was a special time that cannot repeat unless huge changes happens to the CFB landscape, which none of us see happening.

right there with ya Husker-bro, Colorado is growing and some schools are producing to recruits but other schools (fuck you Stanford!) sweep in and take them.

really like coach Macintyre though....
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>>68037059
You've beaten us 9 out of the last 11. In the two years we beat you we went to the natty. What did you do during the other 9?
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>>68032923
the /swaggies/ are FCS bound, looks like.
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>>68033890
Arkansas State, Idaho Vandals, NMSU, North Dakota U.
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>>68037255
>getting dumped for Coastal Carolina
that's pretty fucking sad
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>>68037123
Ohio State went from 1968-2002 without one but they were always a blueblood. It's been almost 30 years for Notre Dame. I'm starting to feel like the Huskers deserve more consideration for blueblood status desu.
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>>68030466
Hawaii had a GOAT team not too long ago underage pleb
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>>68037159
Under Two coaches. Bob Devany was the first coach to put Nebraska into the national spotlight.

That doesn't mean a good hire can't happen again. Success is success regardless who it came from.
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>>68036448
not bad.
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>>68037282
He clearly meant conference title
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>>68037286
>Timmy Chang is elite
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