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With the removal of Baylor President Ken Starr, this means three interim presidents at the Big 12 Presidents meeting on Tuesday.
Looks like you're fucked for another year, Dead Conference Walking.
Save the Big 12 based Kirby
First for
>Our year
>old thread died
Oh well, at least we don't have to listen to Wyomingfag anymore.
>67932182
This picture gave my laptop genital warts.
Hey look OP, it's five stable conferences.
>>67932258
wyo fag here. you're not getting rid of me.
i was kinda joking when i said we'd be a fit for the B1G, but not the XII or the PAC
>threadly reminder that JAWJA has not won a National Championsip since Pac-Man was first realeased
>>67932258
>Mad at sluts
What for friend?
>not posting link to previous thread in the op
>my face when people actually think the team with the best defense and a top 10 offense in the country will miss the playoffs next season
>noted Heisman winner Jeremy Johnson (objectively and statistically the best QB in the 2013 recruiting class, it isn't even debatable)
>Jovon Robinson (best RB in the game who will be 100% healthy, unlike the entirety of last year. he will put up 1200+YDs/10+TDs/5.0YPC)
>Chandler Cox (a top 3 FB already going into this season, 1000+YDs/7+TDs)
>Kamryn Pettway (literally a Chandler Cox-clone)
>Tony Stevens (top 10 WR, 900+YDs/5+TDs)
>Tray Matthews (a black guy trapped in a black's body, one of the smartest players in football, elite measurables, incredible upside)
>Kerryon Johnson (one of the fastest and most explosive players in football)
>Carl Lawson (best DE in country)
>Best pass rush in the SEC
>Best LB corp in the SEC
>Besy secondary in the country
>Top 5 D-Line
Barring major injuries to key players, there is literally no way the Tigers are missing the playoffs this season
The Auburn national championship drought ends in 2016-2017
You can't prove me wrong
Cap it
>>67932139
oklahoma will be leaving soom
>>67898180 #
>implying dabo won't go to UAB and sweep bama in the playoffs 4 consecutive times enroute to winning 24 ships in 31 playoff appearances
>the eternal UAB dynasty makes Bama irrelevant and forced to drop to the FCS and eventually D2 because of running costs and low attendance
>UAB moves into Bamas now vacant stadium and calls it home, ushering a new era of dominance
>UAB-Auburn becomes the biggest rivalry since Yale-Harvard and Army-Navy
>Dabo retires as a hall of fame inductee after his press conference
>eventually gets bored and comes out of retirement 4 years down the line, for one year
>hobbling, weak 82 year old Dabo leads Alabama to their first winning season in 40+ years and wins the D2 natty
>"its the least I could do for my alma mater ;-)"
>in the locker the team celebrates, the 8 decade old Dabo manages to lift the weak and brittle bones in his arms and dabs while his players smile and laugh
>behind their smiles are weary eyes, knowing how ashamed for letting this happen to the once proud program
>Bama slumps to a 2-8 record following his 2nd retirement
my hope for the new big 12
>wvu leaves for acc.
>colo state added as 10th member
>boise state added as 11th member
>houston added as 12th member
>baylor kicked out for current allegations, besides, we don't need more than one religious school.
>replaced by byu
>texas tech kicked out due to small market size of lubbock
>replaced by wyoming
i think this would rate as the 2nd best p5, right after the B1G. does anybody else think this is a realistic possibility
go, wyo!
>>67934832
They were a meme and lost a lot of talent. Losing to Texas again this year baka
>>67934398
Who in the sec west do you actually think Auburn will beat this year?
>>67934833
Does Auburn reach a winning record against Bama before they drop into irrelevancy? Is that the final nail in the coffin?
>>67934988
>Who in the sec west do you actually think Auburn will beat this year?
For sure:
Bama
Ole Miss
LSU
Maybe:
Arkansas
>>67935052
Oh wait, I read that wrong. Those are the teams that will beat Auburn
>>67934988
Preseason delusional me: 15-0
Relatively realistic me: Mississippi State (I don't think they can replace Prescott that easily), Arkansas (because it's at home), two of LSU, Ole Miss, A&M or Bama, in addition to Vandy, potentially Georgia, and the non-P5 teams we play, for an 8-4 or 9-3 season before bowl.
>>67934974
>wanting wyoming to go the big 12
>struggle in the MWC, thinking you'll be anything more than the Purdue/Wake Forest/Vanderbilt of the Big 12
win a few conference titles first, until then stick in your lane. to think I used to root for you guys until you got annoying. damn shame
>>67935147
Face it buddy they're a 2 win team, 3 if they beat Vandy
>>67935314
We don't lose to non P5 teams, so we're a 3 or 4 win team, thank you very much.
>>67935953
3-9
They beat Rhode Island, Ohio, and TCU
>>67935953
Rock Chalk
>>67937155
Cuck Hawk
>>67936631
Gonna beat k state this year
>>67932366
They're stable conferences because they have a ton of shit in them
>>67934974
WVU will never be in the ACC because those faggots are too scared...
am i delusional to think we (uva) could bowl this year.
>>67939703
Well the ACC is dick so probably
>>67939703
6-6 and a shitty bowl 2bh (you)vabro
>>67934974
I hate everything any of you post, but I don't hate this.
Anything involving "WVU gets the fuck out" is something I'm on board for. The Big 12 is too stupid/cowardly to expand into SEC/B1G states, so western expansion it is.
>>67935295
WYO is a tiny-ass school with no media market and no prospects. You're lucky you've even in the MW.
>>67938917
WVU didn't deserve to be in the XII either, and yet there they are.
>>67941512
we were a founding member of the mw thank you very much, they wanted us over fresno or boise or nevada, or any of them. we ARE the mw. it wouldnt exist without us, they should be thanking their lucky stars we havent left yet
inb4 shity michigan pasta
>>67941644
They'd just replace you with someone good.
The MW formed cuz the WAC was too damn big, so anyone they could take into going with them formed the new conference. I mean, New Mexico went, too. NEW MEXICO.
Settle down.
>>67934974
1. WVU will never be allowed into the ACC. Their academics are shit tier and the ACC is already bloated as it is.
2. Baylor isn't going anywhere
3. Wyoming isn't going anywhere
>>67941911
new mexico is an elite member of the conference. honestly i think they should be a package deal with us when we go to the XII/PAC.
mwc pecking order
>colo st
>new mexico
>wyo
>unlv
>sdsu
>air force
>boise
>nevada
>utah st
>fresno st
>san jose st
>hawaii
>>67932366
Threadly reminder that the G5 conferences should split off from the P5.
>>67934974
> we don't need more than one religious school
Dude. It's TEXAS.
They're all religious schools.
>>67942069
you forgot to put the jayhawk logo on kansas
>>67942069
>not including BYU as a G5
>randomly spreading Texas teams over parts of the map they're not in
>mostly sure Bowling Green is in KY
>No Hawaii
>Idaho is going FCS in 2018
Time for a new map.
>>67942058
Dude, Wyoming has had 2 winning seasons in the last 10 years. Give it up already.
Try and win the Mountain West at least ONCE before getting all aroused by the Big XII.
>>67942125
Oh wait, there's Hawaii.
But still.
>>67942125
bowling green is the name of the city wku is in. but there is a bowling green ohio as well.
>>67935953
KU's too good at basketball to get kicked out of the big 12
And their football team can only get better... r-right?
>>67942167
Oh well fuck me, I don't even think people who go to MAC schools follow the MAC.
>>67942125
>BYU is a P5 independent by every metric. Also, they're on P5 maps.
>Hawaii is on the map you faggot. Use your eyes.
>Bowling Green is part of the Ohio University system. Suck my dick.
>Is it 2018? No. Suck my dick again.
Your concerns over Texas are legitimate. I don't know enough about how the fanbases are spread out there.
>>67942180
WAYLP.
They certainly can't get any worse.
>>67942125
if you're this assblasted go ahead and make one yourself and post ITT
>>67942204
BYU is P5 like the entire Mountain West is P5.
Name one other P5 team whose basketball teams plays in a non-football FCS conference.
Going independent doesn't make you relevant, BYU is garbage and Brigham Young was a garbage insane human who murdered non-whites in his spare time.
Get fucked, BYU.
>>67942205
I just graduated from there this month.. They literally went 0-for my senior year when I lived in a 10 man house about 150 feet from the football stadium ....... ;_:
>>67942137
we may have not had the most success in football, but we won the basketball championionship in 1943, and may win it again soon with how much we've improved. also we won skiing championonionship in '68. our football team will prob be a solid 7-5 next year.
>>67942228
Nah mang, I ain't goin' to reddit.
>>67942259
>7-5 in the Mountain West
Well. The Big 12 should come calling any second, you're in!!
In fact, wait, UTEP has wont he basketball national title more recently than you have, maybe they can help round out the membership. WE GOT OURSELVES A SCOOP, FOLKS.
Hey guys, we relevant now, rite?
>>67939703
Wins: UCONN, Cent Mich, PITT, Wake (generous desu)
Losses: Richmond, Oregon, Duke, NC, Louis, Miami, VT
>>67942297
no because there is already 4 in texas. 7-5 is a starting point for us. we would improve from there, and if we can win 8+ every year from 2020 to 2025 the XII or pac would be calling for us. especially because we will likely have at least a few final fours and maybe a championionship in bball. i'm not saying we're ready yet, but it would be a good investment for one of them to get us.
>>67942309
NEW YEARS SIX BOWL GAME WINS
AAC: 1
Big XII: 0
FACT: Washington has had the one of the best, if not THE BEST defense in the country over the last 3 years
FACT: Washington has the best qb/rb duo in Browning and Gaskin
FACT: Washington faces a relatively weak schedule and could easily go undefeated
FACT: Washington had 50 freshman on the team last year. With almost the entire team returning, the future is bright.
FACT: With no Sark holding them back, UW now is lead by Chris "the literal madman" Peterson
FACT: The Huskies are going all the way
>>67942360
Not as long as WVU is in the conference.
And even then, your media market is less desirable than literally every other team in the MWC.
Shut. Up.
>>67942259
>We
>>67942384
God not you washington fucks again.
/sp/ hates you guys for the seahawks, try not to spread your trash state here, k?
>>67942384
FACT: You're still Washington.
>>67942403
We is acceptable if you are a student or alumni of the university, faggot. The team literally represents you.
>>67934398
>mfw Auburn gets BTFO week 1 in their own stadium on national tv
>>67942389
like i said earlier,>>67934974, this would be assuming wvu goes to the acc. our media market is bigger than cincinati. 600k in wyoming, less than 300k in cinccinnatti. nobody else in mwc but unlv can claim a bball championionship, and they're too far west.
>>67942247
There will be an inspirational sports movie written about the glorious KU football rebuild. Gotta fire Beaty first tho. Dude is retarded
>>67942450
>implying
what position do you play on the team?
>>67934398
I went to high school with Tony Stevens
>>67942468
there would be no team without loving fans
>>67942458
Don't use math, motherfucker. An "in" in Cincinnati means you're reaching the entire Ohio media market, which is just a TAD larger than the sixteen people who live in Wyoming.
If the MW gets raided by anyone, literally the least two desirable teams are NM and WYO, and that's even if you go 12-0 next year.
>>67942233
Mad at the Y?
>>67942468
"YOO CANT USE THAT WORD"
holy fuck Weposters are autistic
you can get upset about literally anything in the world and you choose this?
>>67942508
more like a Hail Joseph Smith amirite?
>>67942500
but we also have fans in montana and south dakota and east idaho as well. you could put us on tv there and probably they would watch. especially the bball team, since we are on the up and up.
>>67942508
The only thing better than watching Nebraska lose it watching Wisconsin, Iowa, or Michigan lose.
>>67942537
Nah, a hail jesus would be better. Mormons don't worship prophets.
>>67942549
NOBODY LIVES IN THE DESERT, you're know this if you'd ever been further east than Cheyenne.
Posting a classic
>>67942549
the Big XII is a long shot for y'all...but you still may join a Power Conference someday.
Eventually, odds are that the P5 will split off from G5-- Cost of Attendance and level of competition, among other things, will ultimately cause the split.
But here's the kicker:
There are enough good teams and good media markets OUTSIDE the P5 to make up a whole new Power Conference. I think these teams will form a new, sixth, power conference.
If you're lucky, Wyoming will be one of those lucky G5s. Boise will almost assuredly be. For now, focus on WINNING.
Look at what Houston has done in a short time. Winning the Access Bowl could do wonders for Wyo. Concentrate on the here and now.
>>67942575
i am unaware of what you are referring to
>>67942608
thank you, this is what i am trying to say. hes acting like i want a XII invite tomorow, i know it will be a long road, but we will get there one day. you are much smarter than him
>>67942577
I remember that game. That was the game where I knew for certain Mack Brown was a goner.
>>67942629
Unless you see a future in which another 1.2m people move to Wyoming, like, right now, you're just talking out your ass.
>>67942677
hispanic population in wyo is increasing. they breed more than other races so i think we may be nearing 3m ppulation by 2025
>>67942698
>boo hoo, i don't see as many white faces
That population is growing way faster in TX, NM, AZ... take your ass back to Casper.
Is it just one person who argues in all of these threads for Wyoming joining the Big XII or is it multiple people? Please respond to this post
>>67942737
i didnt even imply it was a bad thing. i lve the hispanics. i think they make wyo a better place. why did you assume it was bad, are you racist? i think it is good because it will make wyo bigger.
>>67942763
it is me everytime. i think there is one other from wyo, but he i dont think is fan of wyo,
>>67942780
U need to stop
Remember /sp/, you heard it here first.
>Agrees to let WVU out after 2018
>Poaches two non-P5 private schools from within SEC territory in time for 2017 (Private schools are way easier to obtain than fighting state bureaucracy aka pro-SEC jewry)
>Announces virtual bidding war for the final spot after WVU leaves to rebalance at 12
>>67942821
i wont stop until im proven right, but i do think ill tone it down some. wyo is a hot topic right now, but i dont want to take up to much of the board.
>>67942780
It makes me feel better now that I know its just you. I was starting to doubt my original opinion because I thought that was becoming a popular consensus, but it's not! Have fun in Wyoming!
i do have fun in wyo, thank you!. and i think that slowly i am persuading people to my pov. and i guarantee you it is a popular opinion among athletic directors of schools. they see the potential, the see the basketball championionship, they see the fan support. they know they will have to act quick or miss out. i wish you werent rude, we should all be nice here.
>>67942423
>THIS mad at Washington
>>67943032
we here in wyo love washington as our 2nd fav team.
Anyone else bandwagoning UGA this year?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LF9qx2r6c8
They've consistently had the best recruiting classes but just a beta coach- but that changed this year. I'm putting money on them winning the SEC this year. Especially since they have Jacob Eason -- and Chubb is coming back.
>>67943106
i like uga, but i think there will be growing pains with the new hc. i've got them 2nd in the east to uf
>>67942925
>i think that slowly i am persuading people to my pov
not really, looking like the general concensus is youre annoying
>i guarantee you it is a popular opinion among athletic directors of schools
>this level of implication
they dont know you exist m8
> they see the potential
app state has more potential than yall do m8
>they see the fan support
havent herd anything about fans of wyoming. you are literally the first ive ever seen on the internet claiming to be from there. and i frequent a good bit of college football forums
>they know they will have to act quick or miss out.
for a team that conferences are supposed to act quick on they sure dont get any media attention. shit, even Georgia Southern gets more media attention and its in statesboro georgia, have you ever herd of that place?
its not rude, youre just bothering people with a pipe dream and a delusion that is easily dispelled. especially since your school is about to impliment state sanctioned budget cuts. teams with "fan support" dont need budget cuts. sorry to burst your bubble buddy
Why?oming should pull an Idaho and drop to FCS if I'm being forthright with you
>>67942925
With all that potential, and it being so popular among athletic directors, why hasn't there been any news at all about them moving conferences? Like at all? Shouldn't there be some sort of information on that? At least slightly?
>>67943106
you could do a lot better than Jawja if you're just going to bandwagon a team. I think they loose at least 3 this year
>>67943152
>looking like the general concensus is youre annoying
one or two ppl has said that. the silent majority stands with wyo.
>they dont know you exist m8
dae wyo not real XD
>app state has more potential than yall do m8
how many bball championionships do they have?
>havent herd anything about fans of wyoming
we are working folk, not much time for leisure
>even Georgia Southern gets more media attention and its in statesboro georgia
gsu is winning a lot of games, when we start winning we'll get talked about (>>67943209)
>its not rude
tell that to my heart
>>67942925
Larry Shyatt is gone and we are fucked. Our top basketball recruit just quit to join the football team, where we will be lucky to be bowl eligible this year. Sorry to tell you but Larry Nance Jr and
Josh Adams are gone and the golden days of Wyoming basketball are gone. A P5 conference will never want us, like I said in an earlier thread the state is losing so much money that people are calling for Wyoming teams to move to divison 2. It will never happen, sorry bud.
>>67943255
U need to stop
>>67943329
i respect your opinion
>>67943348
i dont respect your opinion
>>67943255
>one or two ppl has said that. the silent majority stands with wyo.
theres only one or two ppl in here m8, thats the majority
>dae wyo not real XD
its kinda true buddy, not even the media knows who you are real outside the state
>how many bball championionships do they have?
im sorry to say, but championships that were won during world war 2 arent exactly respected. in any circles.
>we are working folk, not much time for leisure
if the fan support is so good, shouldnt there be more fans though? if you want to move up a conference, there has to be a presence atleast on the internet.
>gsu is winning a lot of games, when we start winning we'll get talked about (>>67943209)
so you arent being talked about. i thought you said ADs were talking about you? seems like there are some holes in your opinion.
>tell that to my heart
reality is a cold mistress my friend
>>67943363
Where are you from? Are you a student? Nobody in the state who I know of shares your delusional vision of Wyoming's sports programs.
>>67942925
I honestly forget about the majority of MWC teams outside of Boise, Fresno, CSU, and SDSU. I legitimately forgot Wyoming had an FBS team. Literally nobody cares about your backwater state/school.
>>67943363
One time I was on vacation and ended up in bumfuck wyoming. I ended up in some small city and walked into some restaurant/bar and it was full of people watching the World Cup. We all watched Spain beat the Netherlands in the semis and it was hype af. Best bar experience ever. I never plan to go back to Wyoming tho
>>67943255
What makes you think the silent majority stands with you? Just because theyre silent doesn't mean they agree. That's just like saying if a girl doesn't say no its okay to have sex with her.
>>67942508
>>67942577
>there's mormons on 4chan?
>>67943192
This.
If they can't win with Bohl, they will never win anything, ever.
it is bed time in wyo. i will rebuke your claims tomorow.
>>67943376
not delusional,alumni, night wyoming friend!
>>67943437
Sorry but you are delusional. I've watched Wyoming sports for the past 20 years and I've watched our teams invent ways to lose. In the past 10 years we've had one good basketball team with NBA talent and a couple of New Mexico bowl births. As an anon said above, we should be plenty happy with being in the MW and cashing Boise State's checks.
>>67943437
Interesting, he gets called out and now he has to leave. Seems like he knows hes wrong and doesn't want to admit it. Sad really. Usually 12 year olds are the ones that have a problem admiring when they've done wrong.
Is this how all Wyomingites are?
>>67943475
>>67943485
Just delusional small-market fans with no grip on reality.
It'd be the same if he was sticking that hard for Tulane or UAB or Montana or somethin'.
>>67943485
Wyomingite here, there is legitimate discussion over whether we should move our teams to division 2 to save money for our failing public school system as the price of oil and coal collapses. This guys is perhaps the only person out of 500,000+ who thinks that that a P5 would be interested in us.
>>67943552
honestly FCS isnt even that bad, i mean shit you see how much attention NDSU gets? I went to eastern washington and im perfectly content with the FCS. We routinely destroy teams and our playoff system is actually good compared to the FBS
>>67943659
trust me, its better than being a laughing stock in the FBS. on top of that, you can still be in march madness. Recruits dont look for coverage anymore, they look for success. Carson Wentz going first overall this year is the perfect example of that
>>67943719
Did Carson Wentz reject a bunch of offers from FBS schools?
>>67943430
You're god damn right.
Is it over for Gaylor?
>>67943719
>March Madness
That's for Division I, and FCS is also Division I.
>>67944322
Yes.
Maybe if we can get a team in the top 25 at some point during this season, we'll call it a win.
>its an alabama loses but given unfair second chance to bring home money to the sec season
>>67942551
nigga who can hate nebraska, wisconsin or iowa?
granted bitchagain is a bunch of faggots but the others are cfb good guys. based uniforms to boot
>>67934398
lsu is always the most overrated team in every sport everyyear and never deliver
on top of that they have the ugliest colors and the most ass-backward and simultaneously gay fans and players in the country
>>67945976
Wisconsin fans slashed Nebraska visitors tires during Nebraskas first season in the B1G as a welcome gesture. So I hate Wisconsin.
>>67951408
Why would you despise Clemson?
They're too irrelevant to think about
>>67943850
He got injured in high school so his only offered was from Central Michigan
>>67952522
Can't stand Dabo.
>>67954392
will he make it?
>>67955153
kek
>>67942384
Define >all the way
>>67946009
Learn to read you fucking harbor bombing nipper. He's taking about Auburn tigers
>This exists
>>67956365
Auburn is always the most overrated team in every sport everyyear and never deliver
on top of that they have the ugliest colors and the most ass-backward and simultaneously gay fans and players in the country
>>67942824
tulane and rice? they could use a couple vanderbilt-tier academics boosters/easy schedule wins
>>67945976
>who can hate nebraska, wisconsin, or iowa?
You rang?
Judge me
>>67956734
Appalachian State to P5 when?
>>67956734
>caring at all about TCU
Why?
>>67956802
I dont like meme teams
>>67952522
>>67953007
The Dabo thing, but also the arrogance that comes with it.
Probably the same reason that people hate Boise State, desu.
>>67956580
Never Rice, it has a student body of less than 2000.
>>67956802
>>67957941
They've been winning for years, and this year they're winning the Big 12.
Deal with it.
>>67959913
But they hosted a superb owl in their stadium
>>67960259
1) The stadium holds 47,000
2) That Owl was in 1973.
>>67960311
Yeah, but it sounded way better they way I put it
>>67956580
I could see Southern Miss or even Troy before I see Rice. If the XII is going to war with the SEC (and SEC drew first blood with A&M/Mizzou) they're gonna look to cut deeper than just another team in Texas.
>>67960403
or Memphis lol i forgot they exist
>>67959913
It must be a blast to teach there
>>67960403
Literally no one wanted them or wants them back.
Now Nebraska; People and the big schools still don't like that they left.
>>67945156
Who is supposed to be top dog in CUSA this season? WKU? Marshall? Southern Miss?
>>67956734
I don't disagree with anything in this
>>67959946
I don't care who wins the Big 12. That conference is a fucking joke, losing 2 games and winning the worst power five conference doesn't get you anything except the privilage of getting exposed to the entire nation in a bowl game.
>>67960659
wku is still the team to beat this year
he just had to catch that
>>67943719
Wentz went 2nd, Goff went 1st
>>67963579
as long as their only loss is to Bama, I think WKU will be ranked easily.
>>67956802
Probably all the bitching they did about how we didn't deserve our natty
>>67960403
>going to war
There is no war. It's over. The SEC won.
>>67960659
Traditional wisdom is USM + WKU, though the CUSA West has been up for grabs every year since realignment.
SB Nation has a whole site set up for G5 teams, underdogdynasty.com
>my face when people actually think the team with the best defense and a top 10 offense in the country will miss the playoffs next season
>Brandon Peters (objectively and statistically the best QB in the 2016 recruiting class, it isn't even debatable)
>Ty Isaac (best RB in the game who will be 100% healthy, unlike the entirety of last year. he will put up 1200+YDs/10+TDs/5.0YPC)
>Jake Butt (a top 3 TE already going into this season, 1000+YDs/7+TDs)
>Sean McKeon (literally a Jake Butt-clone)
>Amara Darboh (top 10 WR, 900+YDs/5+TDs)
>Jabril Peppers (a black guy trapped in a black's body, one of the smartest players in football, elite measurables, incredible upside)
>Kareem Walker (one of the fastest and most explosive players in football)
>Joe Beneducci (best blocking FB in country)
>Best pass rush in the B1G
>Best LB corp in the B1G
>Besy secondary in the country
>Top 5 D-Line
Barring major injuries to key players, there is literally no way the Wolverines are missing the playoffs this season
The Michigan B1G championship drought ends in 2016-2017
You can't prove me wrong
Cap it
my prediction for this year
>>67966982
0/10, not even trying
>>67966982
kek
KEK
inb4 youngfag
>Parents both went to SMU pre-death penalty
>Everyone in the SWC hated Texas with a passion
>Grew up cheering for SMU through the hardest of times and learned to loathe UT athletics and everything about them
>Going to UT next year
Wat do? I don't think I can bring myself to cheer for a team I've been conditioned to hate for 18 years but it's my school now
>>67967229
>parents went to smu
>grew up rooting for smu
>not going to smu
>Just won ACC Championship over Florida State
National runner-ups confirmed
Who else but the eventual champion cab atop us?
>>67951408
>Hating tOSU
I wonder why...
Enjoy always having to explain, "no I don't root for the GOAT, just okie state."
>>67967324
smu is 60 grand a year and my family can afford ut without loans so id rather not take on any debt
>>67967229
just go for 2 years and transfer to a better school if you still hate the schools athletics
>>67967229
transfer to SMU
you are an embarassment to your parents
>>67967229
Then you shouldn't have fucking gone there.
Drive down I-35 on Saturdays and go to Texas State games, then, this is a problem of your own making.
>>67967479
Then it sucks that UT and SMU are the only colleges in the entire state, huh?
>>67967664
Going to SMU is a fucking embarrassment.
SMU was always racist exclusionary garbage snobbery. Rooting for them pre-death penalty is still like rooting for the South in Civil War movies.
>>67970562
Yeah SMU is fucking based.
Only a nigger wouldn't go there.
>>67970868
So it's based because only white people go there? It's not 1985 anymore, brotism.
REASONS WHY SMU SUCKS:
1) It's not even Power 5
2) It's a downtown campus next to the freeway, nothing is in walking distance
3) It's a downtown campus next to the freeway, so exhaust fumes 24/7.
4) Students thing their value as people is related to how much money their parents have.
5) Bulldozed off-campus apartments to build a library for the worst President in American history.
If you love based Texas athletics so much, go to a Big 12 school or U of H. These are facts.
>>67971350
You have to go back
>>67971414
>go back to 1985
Nah. No way would I be interested in 7th best school in this conference.
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP, SAMPAI
Is this finally OUR YEAR?
>>67971501
>The 7th best AAC school is a top 4 Big XII school
>>67972536
Washington State's logo is so ugly dear god
Utah's is based. Do the native americans there give them any flack for it?
>>67972568
Nah, the university and Ute tribe have a good relationship. I think Utah actually asked them for permission to use their name.
>>67972550
If you dropped the entire Big 12 and AAC into a hat and made a ranking of either best athletics, OR best academics, SMU wouldn't be in the top half of either list, so what the fuck are you on about.
>>67972676
Smart. If only North Dakota had done that...they wouldn't be the "Fighting Hawks" now.
>>67972752
Is that what they decided on? I used to check up on wikipedia every now and again but hadn't checked lately.
>>67972463
The meetings are Tuesday.
If the league decides not to expand, ZERO non-UT schools have any reason to stay. They could make more money in literally any other conference.
By 2020, the Big 12 will be UT and whoever is currently in CUSA West.
>/cfb/ after dark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF--ldYIBnM
>>67972717
i thought SMU had good academics?
i remember in high school my friend was bragging he was accepted
Why is Michigan suddenly a trendy pick to make the playoffs this season?
>>67975063
>bragging
That's just what SMU people do.
>>67975068
People assume that if a team made a certain amount of progress from Year One to Year Two, that therefore that trajectory is constant and they will make an equal amount of progress from Year Two to Year Three, and in UM's case, the One to Two strides were so great, that clearly Three will result in a Natty.
These people are accountants and you need to tell them to STFU unless it's tax season.
>>67967326
>18-13
Football is starting a bit early this year.
Could this be our first not-terrible head coach since 2004?
>>67975161
Even 5 wins would be considered a monumental achievement.
>Euro Time
TOP OF THE MORNING, ANON
TCU GOING ALL THE WAY THIS YEAR
>>67945976
Wisconsin fans are garbage tier.
Reminder that based Goldy will be winning the B1G West this year.
Daily reminder that if you're a fan of this, you deserve to be shot on sight.
>>67978911
>post ending in 911
Seems about right.
>>67978911
Wrong picture buddy
>>67979136
>we touch little boys
This isn't a phrase people use a lot, anon, but.... that's even worse than Florida.
Just invite us directly to the Big 12 already, famalam.
Who's excited for college baseball?
Can that have its own general?
>>67980371
Baseball sucks
>>67980371
1) No one.
2) You can try, but I don't see much success in it, brotein shake.
>>67980371
>metal bats
>players who weren't good enough to be drafted out of high school
No.
>>67980450
This.
>pingswing is not a sport
1. Cincy
2. UConn
3. BYU
4. UCF
*POWER GAP*
5. CSU
>>67980722
Seems legit, except (1) you can rule out BYU because they're so fucking far from WVU, (2) you can rule out BYU because they don't roll on Shabbos, and (3) UConn is also not geographically tenable.
So after that the picture starts to clear up quite a bit.
>in b4 SEC fags wake up
1) AAC
>>67978911
Daily reminder that if you're a fan of this, you literally support thievery
>>67972536
based Utes will win the natty tbqh
>>67980722
I just want the Big 12 to explode. Fuck the expansion with Uconn or Cincy, the only candidate I would like to see in the Big XII are BYU and Boise State.
>>67981204
Hmm, dropped muh post -title. But still:
1) AAC
>>67934271
fuck you man this is their year!
>>67981236
That is indeed the kind of cfb shake-up we need.
>>67981288
>WVU and Boise in the same conference
Will not happen, but if UT keeps acting like a little bitch you may see both in P5 conferences that aren't the Big 12.
>>67981389
DREAM PLAYOFF:
1) Missouri
2) Rutgers
3) Utah
4) Louisville
>>67943041
Really? There's more than one person in Wyoming? Wait, are they counting cows as part of the population again?
>>67943430
why did you greentext that?
>>67946009
The funniest part about it is that LSU knows they are over-rated and tried to fire Les Miles last season.
>>67956476
Didn't America beat the France by like a hundred points with a team composed of d2ers coached by Dan Hawkins?
>>67981637
Last summer? Yeah but it was "regular" World Championship.
>>67956734
mostly the same for me, though I am indifferent towards TCU, and I would move Oregon over to teams that make you laugh
>>67981679
>not laughing at Beavers and Ducks
>>67975050
>Michigan has beaten Ohio State only 3 times this millennium
>>67981411
Fuck no. Don't let those fucking chimps for Methsouri meme their way to number one after the cuckoldry that went on last season.
>>67981831
Well no, obviously not, but the idea of (essentially) an expansion team making the playoff would be hysterical.
Any of those four, or TCU, or any AAC team, would be AMAZING (and so would the rampant asspain).
OFFICIAL CFP PREDICTION
1.Alabama
2.Boise State
3.Clemson.
4.Temple
>>67981988
0/10, not even great b8
>>67980371
i'm excited. wont be popular enough for its own thread though desu. im ready for me cavs to repeat.
>>67980909
I don't think the whole sabbath thing matters that much nor the geographics considering BYU and WVU are already playing a game this season
I'll give you UConn though
Just won my fourth straight natty in NCAA 13. Is there anything I can do to make the game more fun?
>>67982224
>teams from different time zones play each other
No one's disputing that, but it's not cost-effective to put two teams that far apart in the same conference. Unless WVU is kicked out, the expansion will be in CST/EST, and not all the way up in New England.
I am assuming, of course, that the Big 12 makes the sensible, logical choice, which they have not ever actually done.
>>67981580
Over-rated?
Heh... I guess you really don't know what your in for this season, do you? You've got balls kid, I'll give you that, but you've got a lot to learn before New Years. That is... if you make it that far.
>>67982280
Pick a new team?
>>67945976
>Who can hate Nebraska or Wisconsin?
Well I do because they're goddamn rivals for Iowa. Duh Japan.
Also Nebraska needs to understand they're medicore and they'll never get back to the olden days.
Accept your mediocrity and stop thinking you are some top tier program still.
Also before anyone tries to lobby delusion or any of that crap at me I fully expect Iowa to lose four games this season.
>>67982797
I don't know, it feels wrong winning with anyone that isn't my school.
>>67983328
Didn't some versions of the game have the ability to make your own school?
I think I played a few seasons as Greater Tampa Clown College.
>Maryland collegiate athletics
JUST
>>67983537
>Herping so much that you Terp.
>>67967229
M8 you're not a real fan if you're willing to go to your rival school
I didn't get into the school I cheered for, and while going to the rival would've been cheaper and easier decided to go put of state because fuck those scumbags.
>>67982967
Nebraska, with a competent head coach, is a perennial B1G West division champion team. Same goes for Wisconsin, though.
Minnesota will always be irrelevant.
Iowa will mostly be irrelevant with an occasional fluke year here and there, see: 2015.
But I agree, Nebraska will never be a powerhouse again. They're destined to be an "on the cusp" team forever. Like Georgia
>>67983537
what happened?
>>67983860
SMU and Texas aren't rivals, unless you're posting from 1987.
>>67984171
>competent head coach
Nebraska could compete in the watered-down Big 12, but in the modern era with a playoff and a B1G slate, you're eternal garbage. Accept it.
PROTIP: Nobody wants to move to the farm and fuck a corncob when they could go to an actual city with actual women & culture.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/15834890/baylor-bears-hire-jim-grobe-interim-coach
Sup, ACC bros. What should they expect?
>>67985880
he had one good season in a down year in the acc. so not too much
>>67985614
The school has been successfully building recruiting pipelines in californa
>>67985614
Not true, they've been lacking a consistently good coach (NC speaking) since Tom Osbourne. It's gotta be someone who can recruit the entire south, also. Osbourne had a knack for stealing some great talent from Texas and Oklahoma.
>team A is beating team B
>fans of B start talking about academics
I can't wait for this to happen literally every week.
>>67983328
so obviously you pick a literally who team
find the worst team in the game (Idaho or something) and try to win with them. THat's the only way to play the game
>>67934398
You forgot to mention Gus taking back control of th offense, other then that a 5⭐️ Post
>>67986078
That's exactly what the admin wants you to think.
Your mascot is corn, senpai. Fucking CORN.
>>67986140
Friendly reminder we're only 3-4 years away from Nebraska talking themselves into Art Briles.
>>67986253
I would not mind Art Briles. I prefer my programs dirty as hell.
>>67980371
>>67980371
I wish college baseball was easier to follow.
>>67984818
Choked in lacrosse NCAA final
>>67986253
Baylor should seriously hire Pelini
>your school
>your favorite current player for your school
>best player from your school currently in the NFL
>best NFL player from your school all time
I'll start
>Pitt
>Jordan Whitehead
>Larry Fitzgerald
>Dan Marino
>>67986651
> Minnesota
> Brandon Lingen
> Eric Decker
> Bronko Nagurski
>>67986287
>I prefer my programs dirty as hell
Like your women?
>>67986651
>your school
James Madison University
>your favorite current player for your school
Well it was Vad Lee, but he graduated.
>best player from your school currently in the NFL
Arthur Moats
>best NFL player from your school all time
Charles Haley
>>67986651
>virginia
>smoke mizzell
>chris long
>barber twins
>>67986253
I seem to recall a profile of Briles where he said he'd never lived outside of the state of Texas and never wanted to.
Then again, at this point he might not have much choice.
>>67986253
He's tainted and his offense wouldn't survive in the B1G.
>>67989607
True, though I could totally see UTEP or Texas State pushing that in a couple years. UTEP gave Mike Price a second shot, once upon a time, but on the downside, a nigga would have to live in El Paso.
>>67992105
>tainted
He's tainted as fuck in 2016. In 2019, he gets a job and the university issues a press release that says he's REALLY sorry and it will never happen again. This is how this has always worked.
>>67992375
Time will tell. He will coach again, undoubtedly, I'm just not sure it'll be at any Div. 1 school. He may end up in D2 or D3 at worst.
>open up espee and /cfb/ is back
save me from the offseason friends
>>67993242
>>67993035
That depends on him. There's not a mathematical formula, but basically he sits on his ass for 2-3 years, then either gets a D2/D3 job for another 2-3, so now it's 2020-2022 and he can apologize and get a D1 job.
Whether he actually takes the D3 gig or just waits the 4-6 years is up to him, but worse shit has happened at other schools and they all still workin', cuz they white and they real real sorry, honest.
>>67993502
>2020-2022
By then we will have female and transgender head coaches in D1. He'll be degraded as a racist and be stuck in the lower divisions permanently.
>>67982224
>BYU vs WVU
Mmm, Polygamists vs the Snake Talkers
>>67993670
0/10 for zero effort.
Title IX is actually serious, the dude broke federal law. If he doesn't go to jail, he'll be back, because $$.
>>67993867
Both sounds absolutely fucking terrible.
>>67993950
You've never seen the documentary about those ultra religious snake talkers in the hills of WV? It's awesome. These old people grab snakes and get bit, then start jabbering and yelping (speaking in tongues) while the rest of the "congregation" prays.
>>67993889
Well aware of the implications he faces, and I was just being sarcastic with the comment. I honestly don't think he will be back as a head coach that fast, regardless of the state of college football at the time.
>>67993950
https://youtu.be/cwBVcsWYJd8
>>67994135
I'm familiar with the practice, I'm a theater major and once did a show about Pentecostal Snake Handlers.
There's crazy people everywhere tho, just some play with snakes and some shoot moose from a helicopter, what'reyagonnado.
>>67994195
He won too many games, SOMEbody will try and justify it.
Isiah Thomas got fired from the Knicks after being sued for sexual harassment, and FIU hired him less than a year later. This is actually the country we live in.
>>67994467
>theater major
Well...good luck with that.
>>67994512
Look, I've got an irritating sinus infection starting, so I don't feel like talking morality, man. I'm just going to agree to disagree.
>>67994814
>sinus infection
Well... good luck with that.
>>67994887
>>67986651
>tOSU
>Raekwon Mcmillan
>Nick Mangold
>Orlando Pace
>>67982280
Start as an offensive and defensive coordinator at some literally who school and work your way up the coaching ranks.
Getting to appreciate the upwards progression over the course of many seasons is aweomse.
>Reggie Fatbottom starts as Duke OC
>after two years of barely bowling gets Toledo HC job
>stays there until Rutgers offers him
>win a big bowl with Rutgers
>Oklahoma State job offer
>win 1 natty in 6 years transforms team into perennial power with recruiting
>moves to Michigan where he wins 3 natties in 8
>finally gets a job offer from alma mater and turn program around after ~15 years of college coaching experience
In short, don't cheapen the experience for yourself. Don't cheese offense with unstoppable plays. Don't edit your players stats. Take time to do everything right from fixing helmets and accessories to changing player names to be more realistic (crazy amount of black Nguyens).
It becomes a lot more immersive if you care a lot more.
>>67995408
That wasn't even bait, m8.
Some autist kid comes on here and makes serious posts about Wyoming every few days.
I'd be pissed off but he seems like a nice kid and his posts are unintentionally fucking hilarious
>big XII wants wyo because of s basketball championship in the 40s
Pure gold
>>67986651
>Mississippi State
>Dak
>Fletcher Cox
>implying
Maybe in a few years we will have a great. These last few draft classes that Dan has put out have been good.
>>67986651
>Texas
>Devante Davis
>Derrick Johnson
>Earl Campbell
>>67996119
The only time I've messed with players is to change all of the kickers white, and all of the defensive backs black. Those two positions are always mixed up in terms of race. Also, it's almost impossible to get a job coaching for your alma matter if they are a big name school. I landed an OC job for Ohio State, but after four straight years of winning natties, I see no hope in the the HC spot opening up anytime soon.
>>67996328
>Fletcher Cox
As an iggles fan I agree, he's a fucking beast. Schwartz is going to propel him to elite status in the coming years.
>>67996458
Schwarz a shit. Cox is awesome though
>your school
>why you personally hate alabama
>>67997555
TTU
Man I'm just a straight up old school hater. I fucking hate them because they win so much. Nothing more.
Fucking faggots.
>>67996328
Cowboys fan here, I've seen people rave about Dak. Can he some day replace Romo?
>>67997555
>Rape U
I don't know, honestly. Sure, Alabama is evil, but they're kind of a respectable sort of evil. I mean, they're evil, but there have been a lot of times where they've been the LESSER evil. Like in the natty against Notre Dame, was there anyone actually rooting for the Irish?
>>67996845
Schwartz was a shit hc but he's an elite def coordinator
>>67997763
>Rape U
can you narrow that one down a bit?
>>67997555
>LSU
>21-0
>>67997555
>Tennessee
>The last decade, it was worth it though because of that time we snitched on them to the ncaa, they still so fuckin mad desu, also neyland>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>da burr
>>67997555
>App State
>For not scheduling >us
>>67986651
THE Georgia Southern University
Ironhead Gallon
Jerrick Mckinnon
Rob Bironas, record for most made FGs in a single game in the NFL
>>67997555
SHIT THROUGH A TIN HORN
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>>67998727
>going with the #FunBelt
MA NIGGA
>>67954392
>tfw
Please win it for muh nigga Mike
>>67980371
Get your possums ready tigerbros!
>>67946009
>Being this mad at the tigers
Cry more nigga
>implying the entire SEC West isn't garbage
>implying LSU has a chance in hell
>implying LSU isn't going to be murdered by the budget crisis
>implying they're not going to be annexed by Texas to pay off their debt
Good going, Jindal.
>>67996078
>Orlando Pace
Nah, it's Paul Warfield, Chris Carter, or Bill Willis
>>67999331
Based #FunBelt never disappoints.
unless its >georgiastate then they can get fucked
how long until Ole Piss goes back to irrelevance?
>>68002820
next season for sure
>>68000930
Every single team is on an upswing in 2016, except Idaho. Shit is tight.
>South Carolina LB Skai Moore will redshirt. Having fusion surgery Friday for herniated disc
>>67986651
>Nebraska
>Westerklutch
>Suh or Lavonte David
>Will shields
>>67986651
>aTm
>Mike Evans
>Von Miller
>Lester Hayes
>>68005684
>School makes lots of money
>Will never win the SEC
Feels bad, 12th man
>>67986651
>Ok State
>James Washington
>Dez Bryant
>Barry Sanders
>Big 12 President meetings
Any news out of this today, yet?
>>68005718
a-at least >we won baseball and basketball this year
>>67997555
>Ohio State
>Admirible hate mixed with some jealousy
RIP
>>67986651
>Ole Miss (hold me)
>Machine Gun Kelly
>Eli Manning
>Eli Manning, Patrick Willis
>>67997555
Auburn
Auburn
>>68005872
>implying college baseball is something to be proud of
Why don't you go win a golf championship and then suck my balls.
>>68005905
he'll be fine
>>67997555
>Ole Miss
>don't hate them too much, they can't beat us
>>67997555
Clemson
Don't really hate Bama too much. Sure we lost to them in January but all of our great coaches came from there
>>68005905
will verne get a sticky when he dies? it's the least we can give him
>>67981364
Not even winning the east m8.
>>68005951
what happens after you can't pay players anymore?
>>68006052
>implying we needed to pay Shea Patterson
>>67934398
>have shit defense
>lose defensive coordinator that was actually going to make defense better
>hire Kevin Steele, who is a shit defensive coordinator
They'll score points but they won't be able to tackle anyone or stop them from scoring
>>67997555
Wisconsin.
There are many, many reasons to hate Alabama. First and foremost, they are unethical. Every now and then an article pops up on how some recruit's uncle just happened to find a brand new Mercedes. I'll give Bama credit, they have some amazing PR. There's no doubt in my mind that they have full-time staff working on hiding any controversy from the general public. Sending cease and desist letters to anyone willing to expose their recruiting violations. Death threats to any journalists willing to break the news. It takes gall, that's for sure.
I guess what peaves me the most is how they've gotten away with it for so long. USC was crushed after winning only two championships. Ohio State got a whole season taken away for lesser crimes. North Carolina might even face some penalties after their whole shindig. But Alabama remains untouched by the NCAA.
I just want justice, that's really it. Justice for how boring and predictable they've made the game. You know damn well going into this year that Alabama will win the national championship. You know that they will not lose a single game.
It's just not exciting anymore. I know full well that my team will literally never win a national championship in my lifetime. I'm fine with that, I came to acceptance with that fact a long time ago. But I still like to see some competition. I was rooting for Clemson last year against Bama because it would have been a nice mix-up. Clemson hasn't won it all since 1981. It clearly meant a lot to the team and their fans. To Alabama, winning a national championship means absolutely nothing now. It's expected. They're like a spoiled child who simply cannot appreciate the little things in life.
What really sucks is that there is no end in sight. Nick Saban may be 64 years old, but he's very healthy for his age. He's more a recruiting figure than anything these days; Lane Kiffin calls all the shots while Nick's image is used for recruiting. Saban will be there until ~2025.
>>68006138
Any reason you can come up with to hate Bama, applies to the SEC as a whole. Fuck them hillbillies.
>69
>>68006138
>your program's greatest coach ever left to go to the SEC hinterlands
I know why you're mad.
>georgia
>>68006603
>the SEC thinks it's still relevant in the Playoff era
Good one, Jorjafam.
>>67997555
>Alabama
>Obviously I dont. I do love being the villain of football though. Growing up, we were just another has been program touting our old championships. We lost to the barn every single year it seemed. Shit was bad. So I fucking relish this golden age of being on top and being the bad guy. Its awesome.
So we now know how Baylor got so good so fast. What other programs have had rapid rises that are suspicious? Obviously Ole Miss is one of them.
>>68006603
>Georgia
>>68006875
Alabama.
>>68007596
Yeah how did that no name program suddenly start winning? They surely have no history of ever winning big before!
>>68005803
nope
>>68007662
They sign more recruits than they have scholarships to give
That drains the talent pool of 5 start recruits that other teams can't get their hands on
In short they cheat
>>67997555
Huskers
The reasons above
>>68007730
Name a top 5-10 program that doesn't cheat in college football.
>>68005803
the Big XII is officially splitting apart
Texas is going independant
Oklahoma and Kansas are going to the B1G
TCU and West Virginia are joing the AAC
Oklahoma State, Kansas State, and Baylor are joining the Pac12
Texas Tech and Iowa State are joining C-USA
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/15833061/big-businesses-helping-big-12-expansion-candidates
G5 candidates for the big 12 are lining up sponsers
>>68007757
They all do but Alabama is doing it and having success consistently
And successes breeds contempt
And Alabama charts in a multitude of ways
>>68007797
Ah so you're literally just jealous. Right then, move along.
>>68006309
>safe
>>68007772
this is dumb
OU/UT/KU will have their pick of conferences, WVU will find a home in the ACC or SEC
the rest would be better off forming their own conference and try to poach schools like Boise State and Houston
>>67932139
>Saban
Bama has a Jewish coach. This is why they get all the calls and the media slobs their knob and why they got the rematch in 2012.
>Jewish nepotism has shaped the last 10 years of college football
The Gridiron Pill.
>tfw you wake up every morning and your team is still shit
>tfw you realize that at least you aren't in the big12
>Brad Nessler, whose contract was not renewed by ESPN, was hired by CBS today to succeed Verne Lundquist, 75, on SEC football games beginning in 2017.
>In 2016, Nessler will call three SEC games on days CBS has double-headers. He also will call the Sun Bowl, select college basketball games and possibly some NFL games this season on weeks with lots of AFC games.
Thank god no more verne
>e!spn losing another person
>>68007772
Links or it didn't happen.
The B1G is what made this 0/10, no way would they ever accept such trash.
http://www.scout.com/college/texas/story/1674016-sources-big-12-expansion-not-happening
supposedly no expansions this year
>>68009825
>ESPN decides certain names are too expensive compared to the shitty work they do
>lets contacts expire
>"talent" snatched up by Fox & CBS
Good luck with that.
>>68009877
>commercial that can neither be paused nor skipped nor closed
Even the Longhorn website is shitty.
>websites including /sp/ guess for months what expansion candidates may be
>Big 12 Presidents apparently never even thought or talked about it prior to today.
Kill them all, I says.
>>67997555
>TAMU
>Don't hate Bama
>>68009877
>>68009950
>wahh boo hoo we don't know who to take
When the Pac-12 got left out of the Playoff last year, I don't recall hearing a peep from them. Welp, oh well, our bad, try again next year.
The Big 12 in 2014 threw a SHIT-FIT. They whined, complained it wasn't fair, rallied (and even got passed) a rule to allow a championship game with fewer teams.
Wait until they get left out this year again, they'll blow their fucking heads off.
>>67942069
LA Tech should replace most of ULM's area. Noone even supports that trash school and we literally have billboards/signs right by their campus saying "Monroe is Bulldog Country" lel
>>68010133
If it's Texas or Oklahoma who the the Big 12, they're in.
>>68010281
>texas winning big12
pls no. that might actually save the conference
>>68009840
Getting Kansas and Oklahoma would be a dream scenario for the B1G
>get a football blue blood in Oklahoma who is also pretty good at basketball
>get a basketball blue blood in Kansas
Only downside is Kansas would be a deadweight for football but adding Oklahoma to the B1G west and renewing their long rivalry with Nebraska could actually make that division competent
>>68010281
Who wins the Big 12 is irrelevant, if they're not in the top ten due to two losses, shitty strength of schedule, or both.
The Big 12 had a chance to improve their 2016 TODAY, and instead they chose to suck a dick.
>>67960659
As much as it pains me to say this, its Southern Miss. WKU and Marshall had a lot of talent graduate. We also lost some of the best players in school history so were on the downward too unfortunately
>>67963579
"no"
WHO /SEC#SPEED/ HERE?
>>68010314
They don't give a shit, do you think they added Rutgers or Maryland because they're football heavyweights?
They want $$, and KS/OK combined have fifteen people who live in those shitty states.
>>68010333
Beating two teams who the selection committee already thinks are shit would not help them today.
It would help them in 5 years maybe, if that team can be like TCU. Odds are though, they would be another WV tier team, at best.
>>68010344
USM has the same problems, they lost their head coach in the offseason, too, if you recall.
It's Louisiana Tech, unless new head coaches at either UTSA or UNT are suddenly magically able to turn shit into 9 wins.
>>67986651
>Louisiana Tech
>Trent Taylor
>Kenneth Dixon or Ryan Allen
>Terry Bradshaw
>>68010350
Kansas yes but Oklahoma has one of the largest followings in the country what are you talking about?
>>68010314
I'm sure they would like oklahoma, kansas not so much
>>68010396
didnt remember that about USM. I'm curious as to why you say it's Tech though. I go there and really don't think we have a chance after losing so many great players
>>67942080
I go to TCU and believe me it is faaaaar from religious
>>68010436
they'd definitely prefer Oklahoma but the B1G has been pretty vocal about wanting to be a dominant basketball conference and Kansas would be the perfect fir for that
>>68010344
>no one loves ULM
Yes we know, they haven't won anything, and now thanks to the LA budget crisis, they never will.
>>67934974
why has no one brought up how he wants to kick our Baylor cause religious, but then adds BYU?
>>68010378
Is English not your first language?
>>68010667
English; is my, first(#1), language!
Why did the B1G let Nebraska in?
>shit academics
>shit sports
>shit media market
just cause of muh history or something?
>>68010519
Yeah but they would rather go east to find the 16th school. Kansas will be a last resort if they cant find an east coast team that fits their profile.
>>68010415
>followings
Going to 16 teams is the most fucktarded option imaginable. It killed both the WAC and the Big East, you can't sustain that.
Also,
>annual Rutgers v OU barn-burner
NOPE
>>68010454
>I go to Tech
They had a decent shot last year but USM blew up beyond anyone's expectations. With the loss of their head coach, they might be able to sustain, OR La Tech moves up to take their spot, OR one of the largest-market teams (UNT/UTSA) comes out of nowhere, but honestly I like the Bulldogs, they deserve some success finally.
>>68010506
>TCU
>literally Texas Christian University
Unless the removed the on-campus church, hush your mouth.
>>68010718
Well you suck at it.
>>68010762
That's the best anyone can come up with. NB had been shit for five years at least before the invite, then everyone acts all surprised they can't compete in the B1G. It's not rocket surgery.
>don't do shit in 2016
>suck in 2016
>oh well OU will be good lol
>OU sucks in 2016
>AAC teams have an extra year to get their shit together
Hell, if Tulane goes 11-1 this year, that could change the ballgame, a year can make all the difference NYEGAAAAAAAAAAA
>>68008970
WVU will never join the ACC, they bring nothing in terms of media market, a rivalry that most people don't know/care about, and shit-tier academics. If the ACC has to add one team, assuming ND were to become a full-time member, they'd add UConn first and Cincinnati second (even though Cincy's academics are shit).
The SEC will never take WVU as it is way too far outside their footprint, and again doesn't bring anything to the table. If the SEC is taking anything from the Big 12 it'll most likely be one or both of the Oklahoma schools, and maybe a Texas school.
>>68009825
Pretty excited tbqh, always loved Nessler. Now if only they could replace Gary "I'm just here to piss off everyone" Danielson.
>>68010762
They were regarded as decent academics at the time, and legacy I suppose. That's about it.
>>68011233
Well you suck at penis
>>67986651
>TCU
>Devontae Turpin
>Andy Dalton
>Ladanian Tomlinson
>>68011037
they have a church but its nothing like Baylor where dancing was illegal until 1997
ABSOLUTE MADMAN!
>>68011020
that USM game last year was a whole lot of JUST.
I think USM has enough returning talent to run the table and at least win the West. We lost way too much talent in Driskell and Dixon on offense and Butler, Abraham, and others on defense. Also our options at QB aren't that good, nothing more than average game managers. Defense should be able to reload though with some nice young talent
>>68012971
>literally tries to sleep in some teenagers bedroom
>wants to lecture others about how to conduct themselves
I want to fix this soooooooooooo badly, but
>tfw not insanely rich to make a difference
>>68013621
hi, OSU #3
>you heard it here first
ACC, SEC, PAC, B1G- 16 teams each.
ACC gets ravaged by B1G and SEC. 4 B12 teams go to PAC. remainder of B12 and ACC merge
4 independents- OU, Texas, Navy, Notre Dame. Independents team up with conferences to make deals like what ND currently has (Navy:SEC, ND:ACC, OU:B1G, Texas:PAC). OU and Texas remake the LHN to split between them. ND keeps contract w/ NBC. Navy makes contract to play home games on ESPN family channels.
8 team playoff: 1st round is conference championship. Selection committee used to decide the top 2 teams of every conference. Independents can play in their affiliate conference championship if they are ranked top 2.
>>67986651
>Missourah
>Charles Harris
>Maclin (Golden will be better next year)
>Kellen Winslow
>>68012526
WVU was never good enough for anyone to take, they just happened to be good the year the Big 12 needed a quick solution. They are the Richard Gere of college football teams.
The 'Neers filled a gap in 2012, but in 2016 they need booted, so the Big 12 can either expand west, or pick someone closer to home.
>>68012865
>literally Christian in the name
While I admit Waco has the market cornered on conservative christian wackadoodles, do remember that Jesus did not get that ball into the end zone, you did that shit yourself.
Also OK is way crazier, it was illegal to get a tattoo there until 2008.
>>68012986
The QB is the thing (and the new head coach). I predict they drop down and LT rises to take their place, but that only presumes none of the lower teams (which is everyone else) don't get better. It's possible, I guess.
>>68014196
Even setting aside opinion, for a moment, the FACT is that the ACC departure fee is so goddamn cost prohibitive that no one will touch them. If the SEC/B1G grow, it's from the Big 12 or AAC. The ACC is one Dabo-heart-attack away from permanent football irrelevance.
>>68014657
>I live in Montana
Opinion discarded.
>>68014609
you have a point, although they did say the same thing before maryland left
>>68014609
My theory is that this will be a permanent change, SEC and B1G will always be the two biggest revenue earners and taking a hit while fighting it in court to make it reasonable is probably what they'll do.
>>68014699
I live in new england but I bandwagon the fuck out of Bob Stitt's boys
>fite me
>>68014779
There is no excuse for Maryland, maybe they thought the Baltimore media market was really important? Regardless, Maryland went into debt to get in there, they thought that was a better option of losing money all at once over the next 100 years as they flailed at the bottom of the ACC like Wake Forest's retarded cousin.
No one else wants in, and the B1G doesn't want anyone else in.
>>68014900
That what will be a permanent change? The ACC sucking?
There's nothing to fight in court, the rules (and exit fees) are what they are. The Pac-12 is a sleeping giant in the west (if they could get their shit together), and the Big 12.... well, them too, but they've proven consistently over 20 years they're too goddamn stupid to do what it takes. With the Pac-12 I'm not so sure.
>>68014902
>live in New England
>bandwagon the fuck out of an FCS team in cow country
Literally what.
>>67942309
Houston was probably as good as Oklahoma desu senpai
>>68014657
Still forgot to put Notre dame in with your despised teams
>>67987741
Yes.
>>67986615
This.
>>67932139
UCONN and Cincinnati to the Big 12
>>67985614
Nebraska still has blue blood status. A program with as much history and tradition as Nebraska can still become a championship-caliber team with the right coach. Look what happened to Michigan State. Hell, even Wisconsin had a hell of a run a few years back.
I agree that Nebraska will never be skullfuck-everyone amazing again, but to claim that Nebraska will never have a chance at the natty or ever be good again is fucking stupid.
>>68016038
Too far away.
BIg 12 is TX/OK-centric, like B1G is MI/OH-centric, and the SEC is FL/GA-centric. That's our base of operations, famalam.
Though maybe the SEC will add Boise State too, who the fuck knows anything anymore.
>>68016045
>is stupid
How long since Michigan won anything? Historic Titans are falling left and right, if you haven't noticed.
And also it's no longer 1953, so no one wants to go to Nebraska unless they're from there. You're done.
>>68015588
I needed a team to root for and I picked Montana, what more do you want from me
>>67986651
>my team is miami da u
>brad kaaya
>i dont know its hard. probably jimmy graham
>i dont know its hard to choose so many HOF. ray lewis, andre johnson, micheal irving, warren sapp, jim otto(didnt know he went to miami), jim kelly
>>68012603
>implying danielson is good
ALSO FUCK NICK SATAN
>>68016915
How about any of the 9000 teams in driving distance from your basement?
>>68012526
>UConn
Not another Yankee basketball school
>tfw tamu grad student
>tfw your team gets to spill massive amounts of spaghetti in front of the entire nation on opening day
It's better this way as opposed to waiting for Bama
Daily reminder that the best team in the Big 10 literally got embarrassed 38-0 in the playoffs.
>>68024437
>MSU
>best team in the B1G
memed their way past Michigan and OSU, then barely snuck past Iowa in the CG
not to mention they lost to Nebraska
>UCLA
>Be American
>Get shot
UCLA JUST KICKED IN YO
Where will he go?
>>68024956
>Big 10 Champions
>Not the best team in the conference
Yeah alright.
>>68025903
>implying the best team always wins the championship
>>68024437
>>68024956
>memed their way past two other teams
What does that even mean? They showed OSU pictures of success kid? Meme is not a verb.
>the team that won the conference isn't the best team in the conference
This is SEC logic.
>>68025941
Yeah. They do.
That's why it's called a "championship."
I really hope Michigan luck their way into a bowl game with Bama so Saban can get a piece of that Jimmy ass like Urban gets.
Enough of that other shit, are we lighting it up this year or what?
>>68026551
yes
Alabama has scored 128 combined points and only given up a combined 21 against teams from Michigan in their last 3 meetings.
Why is Michigan so bad at football bros?
>>68026549
>implying we're not due for a non-SEC/B1G Champion, just to make the entire country cry for ten months.
IT WILL BE GLORIOUS.
>>68026551
yes. finally getting to go to a Broncos game this year since they decided to come to the South
>>68026701
>bad at football
The winner of the B1G gets some prestige no matter how good/bad they are, not all champions are created equal. Same applies to the SEC.
Though yes, B1G football has been pretty bad for quite some time.
Enough of that other shit, are we lighting it up this year or what?
>>68027271
>San Diego State
>good
pick one
>>68027546
Then who's the 2nd best team in the MWC?
>>68027639
1. BSU
2. AF
3. USU
4. SDSU
>>68027639
>MWC
Who gives a shit?
Also, calling it now, UNC upsets FSU and wins the ACC this year. Vegas has UNC at 8.5 wins, take the over, it's the easiest money you'll ever make.
>>68027837
University of Nonstop Cheating winning the ACC?
"no"
>>68027812
>Air Force
>Utah State
Eeehhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......................
>>68027837
>MW
>who gives a shit
That's actually a pretty good answer, except then you turn around and suck the ACC's cock as if their level of football is any higher.
>>68025884
I cannot wait until tOSU has a white dual threat QB
>>68028349
>Ohio State
>white QB
kek implying that'll ever happen
>>68025884
Cal.
The guy who recruited him at TAMU went there.
>>68028187
The ACC isn't exactly strong this year but UNC, Miami, Clemson, and FSU should be pretty solid squads. It's easily better than the MW, whose only solid team will be BSU.
>>68028665
>isn't exactly strong this year
This implies they're having an off-year this year, when in fact the currently shit quality of play has been the standard for over ten years.
Colorado State proved other teams besides BSU can have great years, which team will have the huge upset this year? PROTIP: The ACC isn't upsetting anyone.
>>68028864
UNC is beating UGA to open the season m8, cap it
>implying MWC is equal to or better than the ACC in any capacity
Give me a break m8
>>68028920
This is a meme game.
>If Georgia wins
Look at the high quality opponent we beat! Our pre-season ranking is totally justified! We're going all the way!
>If NC wins
Look at the high-quality opponent we beat! Our pre-season ranking is totally justified! We're going all the way!
Neither of you are going anywhere, you're both just average teams.
>>67934974
UT and TTU will forever (and unfortunately) be in the same conference. They are the major state-funded schools and have to stick together because
>legislature will make it that way
And before any fAggies get on my case
>land grant school is a different animal
Also remember
>the TTU market includes many alumni in DFW and Houston
>the combined populations of Amarillo and Lubbock are greater than the population of the state of Wyoming
>>68029025
UT in the B1G a few years ago would've been p cool
>>68029025
Not necessarily. Remember this is Texas, and the state legislature thinks the height of intellectual pursuit is firing guns at tin cans in the forest.
UT and TTU are joined at the hip because former governor Ann Richards willed it so during the break-up of the SWC. She was a Democrat. The GOP is in charge and if they want to kick Lubbock to the curb, they will.
Just FYI.
>>68028864
Mountain West is trash no matter how you spin it
>>68029108
Too far.
>>68029304
No more or less than the AAC, and the AAC produced a New Years Bowl Team last year.
>>67981288
I'd like to see the XII-II add Memephis and Cincy. Moves us (TTU grad, I can use "us") generally eastward and gets into SEC territory. Some of that talent is sure to like offenses that were schemed after the invention of the forward pass, and some of that talent is sure to think they could get starting defensive positions as freshmen.
>>67986651
>TTU
>Mahomie
>Amendola
>Zach Thomas
Official CFB Playoffs:
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Ole Miss
4. Oklahoma
>Bama - Ole Miss for all the hatred
>Clemson - Oklahoma for the btfo hat trick
>>68029413
In 2016 those seem like the most obvious choices, but who knows what kind of press push other teams could give over the next year.
Plus, moving into SEC/B1G territory would be the "smart" move for the Big 12, and literally when did they last do anything smart?
>>68029525
>two SEC teams
The playoff does not work that way.
>>68029694
Bullshit it doesn't, the SEC being involved makes anything possible.
>>68029288
>The GOP is in charge and if they want to kick Lubbock to the curb, they will.
They don't want to lose the money having those two in the same conference will bring. Also, Lubbock had no undercard candidates in the Dem primary. Lubbock is politically conservative and the powers that be like those quarter million votes.
>>67934974
That's what you hope will happen. This is what will probably happen in the next few years:
>conference meetings don't accomplish shit, ever
>texas and oklahoma keep taking opposite sides on just about everything, especially the lhn
>no matter what happens one of them will be pissed
>eventually whichever one of them keeps coming out on the "wrong" end of these disagreements will throw a fit, take their ball, and go somewhere else
>the one that didn't throw a fit says the big 12 isn't viable without the other, uses that as justification for leaving
>justasplanned.jpg
>kansas, oklahoma state, and maybe one or two of the texas schools manage to find a way off the sinking ship, leaving the others behind
>remaining schools forced to circle the wagons, end up raiding the mwc and american
>cobbled together conference potentially spread all the way from idaho to florida
>still a better option than staying in the mwc or american though
And that is how the P5 will eventually become the P4.
>>68029888
>trips checked
It's still Lubbock, fuck Lubbock. TT may be just another shit team the conference is stuck with, like Iowa State, but if the conference breaks up no one will take them. Why the fuck would USC want to play an away-game in fucking LUBBOCK.
Only the desirable teams get taken in the event of a takeover. Granted, Colorado sucks, but the Denver media market is a bit more important than the orange wasteland of west Texas.
>>68029719
>anything is possible
Unless your conference is doing a split/shared championship, shut up.
>>68029956
>implying the AAC or MWC won't take their place
>>68030099
I still think what's left of the Big 12 raiding the MWC and AAC would be more likely than them picking over the Big 12's corpse. You'd likely still have some decent football teams left and they're in the middle geographically. If you were Houston or Boise do you think it would help your reputation more to play teams like TCU and Kansas State or teams like Tulane and Rice or Utah State and New Mexico?
>>68029956
That's a pretty big leap, if only one of UT/OU leaves, they just add UH and build a new rivalry of, I dunno, UT vs OkSU, or OU vs TCU or Tech.
The beat goes on.
>>68030288
>UT vs OkSU
>cows vs cowboys
interdasting
new thread lads
>>68030466
>>68030466
>>68030466
>>68030466
>>68030466
>>68030255
Them taking WVU proved they'll take anyone to stay alive, if only one current team just leaves, that can be replaced. If 2-3 go, that's it. It really depends if ESPN will still honor the TV contract, though certainly it'd take a hit during the next round of negotiations (the only real precedent is CUSA).
That's too much money to just leave on the table. And chaos is what's fun about it.
>>68030343
The OK vs TX rivalry will always be there, they even tried to start up a TTU/OkSU rivalry a few years back, I have no idea if they managed to make that last, I don't live there anymore. But yeah, prolly.
>>68030476
>three posts early
HOW DARE YOU
>Big 12 Presidents
>Ruin everything
Welcome to life in the CST
>500
>>68030288
Constructing a new rivalry isn't as easy as you think. Look at Colorado. They lost Nebraska and their big rival now is Utah. It's a fun game, but as a CU alum the rivalry with them feels forced. UT and OU have been major rivals for well over 100 years, you can't just plug in another school to replace THAT.
On top of that, given the conference's reputation already with Texas and Oklahoma still there, their public perception is going to implode if one of them goes. At that point why would the other even want to stay? It's fairly obvious to even casual fans that they both regret not leaving when they had the chance (especially Oklahoma) and best-case scenario for the conference is they both stay until the GoR runs. If one goes the other has an out and there's no way they won't take it even if they end up in different conferences.
If you know how and why the Big 12 was founded the conference owes its entire existence to the belief that putting Oklahoma and Texas together would keep them both from leaving. The Big 8 took the four Texas schools because they were afraid OU would join the SEC if they didn't. The SWC schools that made the jump agreed to it because they were afraid Texas would leave them for the Pac-10 if they didn't.
>>68030956
>CU alum
oh hey I've been wanting to speak to one of you guys forever. I'm one of those faggots who'd like to see the PAC expand again sometime in the future by poaching the MWC instead of the "big" "xii". per PAC rules, every team has to have a "local" partner, so utah and colorado got stuck together by process of elimination. if we brought in 2 more schools again though, one each from utah and colorado, who would be the natural rival for each from the options that are out there? obviously we can't get nebraska, nor would it be a great fit, but colorado state, air force, utah state, and BYU should all be doable given the right conditions.
>>68030956
>Paragraph 1
It feels forced in 2016, but give it a minute. You'll be on your way to a conference championship, playing a meaningless game, and they will beat you, and it will hurt. And you will be angry. And anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Suffering leads to painting your face team colors and standing outside in the rain in December.
>Paragraph 2
>why would either stay?
To rule the conference with no one in their way. Public perception means fuck all, you can just issue a press release, the remaining teams want to keep that ESPN TV contract $$$.
>Paragraph 3
I know exactly how and why the conference was founded, they wanted to stop at 10, and the then-governor made them take Tech and Baylor anyway. Seeing as how UT or OU /didn't/ go to the SEC three years ago, we can safely assume they'd rather be a big fish in their shitty gerrymandered pond, than on equal footing with the toothless hillbillies of Mississippis 1&2.
The entire conference is Texas's bitch. If UT leaves, the conference will sort that shit out. If OU leaves, UT will replace them with another bitch. If both leave, the other conferences will beg any MW/AAC team who will have them so they can keep the Big 12 contact alive until it expires.
See you in the new thread.
>>68031102
Go to the new thread.
But while expansion is fun to think about, the PAC-12 last expanded along academic lines, only. None of those schools you mentioned are good enough.
NOO THRAD:
>>>>68030466
>>68031102
I don't think any of them are realistic given what the Pac-12 wants. They're about as uppity regarding academics as the Big Ten and have a huge hard-on for olympic sports.
Utah State and Colorado State don't have the academic or athletic profile that the conference wants and I don't think they're capable of getting to that level. That leaves BYU and Air Force, and they've got their own issues.
BYU would be a non-starter for both sides. Most of the conference, especially the California schools, don't want a religious school. BYU refuses to play on Sundays and I just can't see the conference accommodating that.
Air Force is the one that ticks the major boxes. They're a service academy so they're big on academics and leadership. They're probably the best service academy athletically as well. The only problem is Air Force doesn't want to be in a major conference because it would involve too many academic compromises for their athletes. Supposedly the Big 12 tried to get them to join a few years ago and they said no because they didn't want anything bigger than the Mountain West.
>>68031240
>tried to get them to join
This sounds right. There's no way WVU was the first choice.
>>68028970
I'm not saying UNC is a super high-caliber team. They're basically an inferior version of Oregon or TCU. But they'll be pretty solid, Georgia too.
>>68029474
>>68029459
>>68029444
>awwwbummer
>>68016737
Michigan wasn't even down for very long, and they are currently on the rise. Going from 5-7 to 10-3 without any of Harbaugh's recruits is something. Michigan could already be a dark horse playoff contender this year. Juggernauts do fall, but many do not stay dead.
>no one wants to go to Nebraska
The current recruiting class under Mike Riley disagrees with you. Also, Bill Callahan was able to bring in Top-10 classes, but just couldn't develop the talent. Could you imagine if another Dantonio or Harbaugh took over at Nebraska? They would be a regular contender.
You have absolutely no argument.
>>68028665
>UNC
>Miami
get these memes out of my thread
>>68035304
the only thing that speaks to is how bad of a coach Hoke was. They were bringing in pretty good talent when hoke was there
