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>woy
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>woy
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>woy
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Fug it's real
>no Townsend
>5 strikers
WWWWOOOOOOYYYYYY
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4-1-5(Strikers) incoming
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desu he picked the sensible core players that were going to start and actually be used as subs so the fucking ridiculous decision of taking Rashford can be stomached as he likely just won't play

The people who missed out (Drinkwater, Townsend??, Walcott??, Noble??????) wouldn't have played much anyway as there are better options for them wherever they'd be played (p.s. Noble just isn't good enough to be anywhere near the squad)

This does make it look like Vardy will be playing on the wing a lot though, could make us ineffective against good teams
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>no Drinkwater

England confirmed for low energy group stage exit

>woy
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>>68002383

>sterling
>wilshere
>Henderson
>Lallana


>no drinkwater


Ladies and gentlemen your 2016 second round losers
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>rashford
my fucking sides
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>no drinkeh

WOY OUT
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>>68002439
CSGBman was proven to be better in the middle

Would prefer him as impact sub rather than winger desu
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>>68002452
Wilshere's good for England when he's fit.
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>>68002383
Who fucked it up more Löw or Woy?
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I can understand Townsend but I seriously don't get dropping Drinkwater, he is clearly the best candidate at the base of midfield. Dier will probably play there because muh goal against Germany and our midfield will be completely useless
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>five (5) strikers including flavour of the month meme
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>>68002473
Woys selections are fine

Who would you of honesty of taken over these players with out nitpicking?
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>play 11 professional games in your career
>called up to play in the European championship
>purely because you play for man u
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Drinkwater was better than all of those midfielders this season other than Alli. How in the fuck does woy justify this?
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>>68002487

leave trashford or deadridge at home and take drinkwater.
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>>68002483
>I seriously don't get dropping Drinkwater, he is clearly the best candidate at the base of midfield
He was absolute dogshit in the games he played.
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>>68002408
>>68002432
Well England are going to have to outscore their opponents heavily because their defence is dodgy.
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>>68002505
Wilshere was worse than dogshit.
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>England will always be shit
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>>68002505
everyone looks dogshit playing with wilshere, he had to do everything himself
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>>68002487
I'd take Townsend over Stirling and Drinkwater over Henderson
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>>68002513
Wilshere has proven numerous times he's good for England, he's had a number of good matches. He's also one of few English with actual technical ability.
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>>68002514

youre team didnt even qualify...
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Literally who can stop us?
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We don't need five fucking strikers.
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>>68002383

>HENDERSON

>BARKLEY

>NO WEST HAM PLAYERS

hahaha I hope we crash and burn
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>>68002526
Wilshere will start over Dier.
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Do you actually have to take three goalkeepers?
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>>68002505
This. He was shit in that australia game.
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>>68002525
It's nice to have some big team in the limbo of NTs together with us. You're here forever England, enjoy your stay.
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>>68002468
He's not fit though, he looked lost in the friendlies
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Can't wait until this owl faced cunt fucks off. Get a JF in, one who can actually speak English unlike Capello previously.
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>cutting meme magic from your squad

Wot is Woy doing
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>>68002533
>taking tinpot team players

NEVER EVER
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>>68002383
where is the star quality?
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>>68002539
No he wont. If anything they'll both start with alli
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>>68002524
That was then, this is now. He's not played in a year and is a huge liability for another injury.
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>>68002519
Drink wouldn't have started and neither would have Townsend.I agree that Townsend may have been a good option off of the bench but we already have a fee players for that.So it is just nitpicking tbqh
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BGEq0EOpIWr/

he's a good lad

;_;
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>>68002526
>rooney
>not being too kill to play up front

pick uno friendo
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hopefully this senile old cunt will get a heart attack soon
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>>68002572
That's a 4 and a half star team of Iv ever seen one
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>>68002383
>Milner
>Sterling
>Henderson
>Sturridge
>Barkley

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>No Townsend
>No Drinkwater
>Black Frederic Macheda in the squad
>Jack Wilkshite in the squad


I'm a Geordie and even I would take Pardew over this cunt.
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>>68002504
>Rashford
Literally England's best player you fucking retard. Have you been in a coma for the past 4 months?
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>>68002383
Woy XI : Hart, Clyne, Stones, Smalling, Rose, Wilshere, Dier, Lallana, Henderson, Alli, Rooney, Rashford
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When was the last time an English player virtually ever present for a title winning team wasn't even in the squad for the tournament the following summer? Suddenly we have 3 out of 4.

So much for picking form players, just stick with the trusty old favourites Roy.
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>>68002584
https://www.instagram.com/p/5ZZz8KpISt/?taken-by=dannydrinkwater
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>>68002572
Right here senpai
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WHY LALLANA

WHERE WILL HE EVEN PLAY

WOY WILL START HIM IN THE NUMBER 10 INSTEAD OF ALLI WON'T HE
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>Wilshere plays 4 seconds all season
>Gets into the England squad
>Drinkwater plays almost every game and a pivotal role in winning the league
>Dropped from squad
Looks like my allegiances stand with Iceland for this one. Roy can fuck off.
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>>68002584
pretty sad to be honest, especially considering how many players get call ups and seem not to give a shit about it.
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>>68002615
Turn tv off and go to bed / 10
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FORM IS PERMANENT
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>>68002383
>Barkley

If your gonna waste space just keep drinky, offers way more amyways
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>>68002383
What's the point of taking 3 goalkeepers? If Forster and Hart get injured/suspended >we are fucked regardless of who fills in
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>>68002614

I saw the one goal he scuffed in for england when the mighty australian defence didn't bother to challenge him at all.
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What the hell has Jordan Henderson done to justify his inclusion ahead of Drinkwater? He's distinctly average at best and he hasn't been at his best for at least a year. I'd resigned myself to Wilshere's inclusion but Henderson is a step too far.

Townsend at least offers a plan B who can provide something different if 4-1-2-1-2 isn't working, what does Henderson offer?
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we literally have 0 world class players (rooney was at one point but hes not now)

>you now remember the teams of the 00s

how did this happen?
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>>68002584
Fuck this shit
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>>68002644
You have to take 3.
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>>68002614
>Have you been in a coma for the past 4 months?

I wish i was if people think he's your best player right now. kys
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>>68002644
youre forced to take 3 senpai its the rules havnt you ever played fm?
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>>68002614
>8 goals in 18 games
Wow, m8 he's fucking unstoppable
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>>68002669
But why? I doubt many countries have a relevant 3rd goalkeeper it's just a wasted squad space
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What you want/wanted;

---------------Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
---------------Dier
-------Drinks----Rooney
----------------Alli
---------Kane----Vardy

What Woy will give us;

---------------Hart
Clyne Cahill Stones Rose
------Wilshere--Alli
Sterling---Rooney---Lallana
--------------Kane
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>>68002630
This is what's bugging me. Dele is wearing #20. I hope that's just because it's the same as his Tottenham shirt and not an indication that he's going to be sat on the bench.

>Lallana has 8
Panic.jpg
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>>68002680
im kidding m8. nobody unironically rates rashford. roy just bought into the meme
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>>68002540
yes
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Don't know why people are whining about Townsend not being in he's fucking shit
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>Before the friendlies
Safe optimism that we'll do respectably well in the Euros

>After selections
It's all gone to shit
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>>68002579
>Townsend may have been a good option off of the bench but we already have a fee players for that
who?
Townsend provides pace and width and flair, who can England bring on that can offer that? Lallana?
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>>68002692
I actually think he will start the first 11 you put but with drinkwater out and willshire in
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>no Lampard
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>>68002692
Henderson instead Alli
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Why does England unironically hate Wilshere when he's the only technical midfielder on that team?

Dier, Henderson, Milner, Drinkwater, Barkley are all >le run around and do nothing players, Wilshere and Alli are the only ones who aren't average with the ball at their feet.
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>>68002692
I like Clyne so I'm fine with that.
This squad has proven Woy still picks players on retarded reasons though, so I'm sure he'll field 11 players based on retarded reasons too.
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>>68002693
theyve given the club shirts to a lot of them. i know studge and hendos are 15 and 14 for example
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>England
>5 strikers
>no midfield

>Germany
>14 midfielders
>no strikers

Poetry
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>>68002693
Oh ffs no
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>>68002710
Struidge vardy or rashford
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>>68002693
>Milner has 4
>Dier has 17
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>>68002692
>wanting rose and walker

WE WOULD GET FUCKING SHIT ON THEY CANT DEFEND WHY DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO PLAY IN KNOCKOUT TOURNAMENTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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It's ok, lads. The Spurs boys will save us from Woy's stupidity
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>>68002452

Yeah m8, if only we had Danny Drinkwater starting for us. He'd make such a difference.

>this is what English football has been reduced to
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>>68002692
He'll start Smalling. Otherwise this is the sad truth.
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>>68002719
>Why does England unironically hate Wilshere when he's the only technical midfielder on that team?

Because your average football fan in this country can't recognise real technical ability and prefers players to just run really fast up the pitch.
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Sterling

STERLING

FUCKING STERLING

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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No wingers. This either means
a) we're going to be direct as fuck
b) key attackers like Vardy will be playing out of position
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>>68002751
Ikr

This isn't about deserving a call up.its about picking a sqaud
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>>68002719
Because he's always fucking injured. Same issue with Sturridge.
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Fucking woy leave reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeëêéèēėę
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>>68002697
The wrong one though ;_;
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>>68002526
>alli on the right
>rooney on the left
>vardy on the right

it's funny because Woy might actually do that
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i dont know why people want all these memes and spurs players. you need players with world and European experience and are not chokers. spurs are the ultimate chokers theyll bottle it before the match even starts
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>>68002666
Kane is the best striker in the tournament
Wilshere is the best midfielder in the world
Hart is the 3rd best keeper in the tournament
Alli is the best young player in the tournament
Smalling is the best defender in the tournament
Stones is the best box-to-box defender in the tournament
Milner is the best utility player in the tournament

We'll be more than fine
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>muh Liverpool darlings
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>>68002692
>What you wanted
>Rooney
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>>68002768
Struidge ,sterling and even dare I say it Rooney can all play out side
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>>68002734
>width
yeah m8, I'm sure they'll be great on the wing. Townsend is the only out and out winger in the 26 man squad, he provides something completely different to Lallana, Alli, Barkley, Vardy or whoever else will be shoehorned out wide.
Plan A isn't working? Get Townsend on and start whipping in crosses to Kane

Also if you've watched Liverpool at all in the past few months you'll have noticed that Daniel Sturridge is now completely devoid of pace
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>>68002757
>get the ball
>run in a straight line until you meet a defender
>fall over
>get up like youre gonna punch him but dont

jack wilshere everybody
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>>68002780
>European experience
How many quarter finals have Henderson and Milner got us?
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>>68002790
Not sure about Studge out wide.
He's greedy af.
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IMPORTANT FOOTBALL QUESTION

What is the difference between 'picking on form' and 'making unreliable extrapolations based on small sample sizes'?
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>>68002526
roy hodgson.
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>>68002798
Still better technically than all other English midfielders. This is the state English football is in.
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>>68002769
Exactly. It's not a fucking awards ceremony, the coach has to pick the team that will get results. And as we've seen in the qualifiers and the Australia friendly last week, England doesn't need Drinkwater.
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>>68002786
>Alli is the best young player in the tournament
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>forgoing an absolute engine and league fucking champion Drinky for Ross "he'll be good next year since 2011" Barkley and meme of the month Rashford

this is why you don't win tournaments
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>>68002796

>Plan A isn't working? Get Townsend on and start whipping in crosses to Kane

m8 have you ever seen Townsend try and cross a ball?
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>>68002802
form is a meme senpai. especially when youre playing with 10 different players under a different manager and in a different country for a different tournament. form goes out the window
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>>68002584
>would of
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>>68002780
>you need players with world and European experience and are not chokers. >5 Liverpool players
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>>68002383
>no drinky
top kek woy
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>>68002796
>Building your squad around townsend and subjecting Kane to 'just cross it into h' tactics

Fuck off big Sam ,this is England not Sunderland
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>Rooney

Pathetic side

They will be lucky to get 3rd in their group
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>>68002823
Yeah, in fact I've watched every single game he's played this season and he's quite prolific at them
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>Leaving the English Busquets out
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So the squad suggested by the numbering (which lets be honest, under Hodgson is likely to 100% indicate the starting now line up)

-----------------Hart---------------
Walker-Cahill-Smalling-Rose
---------------Milner---------------
-----Lallana---------Sterling----
--------------Rooney-------------
-------Kane----------Vardy------

Can't wait for that group stage exit and 3-0 rape by Bales.
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>>68002851
>POOCASTLE
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>>68002814
England don't need Wilshere or Henderson, whose match fitness is questionable for both.

He literally dropped an extra midfielder (one who was instrumental for the title winners) so he could get in a flavour of the month manure player and Sturridge, who again picked up a recent injury
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Where is Phil Jones?
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>>68002851
>POOCASTLE
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>>68002860
That lineup genuinely scares me
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>>68002863
Give me one good reason why rashford shouldn't be in that squad
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>>68002864
dead i dont know. i havnt seen him since like 2013. other than that fedora tip gif
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>selection should be based on experience
>experience of flopping at every major tournament since Mike Bassett
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>>68002719
>141 minutes of football in the last 12 months
>not even particularly talented at the best of times
>wouldn't make the team if he didn't play for Arsenal
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>>68002860
>attack is only real strength
>play 2 of 3 attackers out of their favoured position
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>>68002864
His career is over fampai

>>68002875
why do we need a 5th choice striker instead of a useful midfield option
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>>68002383

we only really need kane anyway, the other players are just filler
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>>68002741
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>Jack Wilshere has scored 6 (six) goals in 103 (one hundred and three) appearances for Arsenal
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>>68002683

That's a goal every 2.25 games
Vardy has a goal in every 2.74 games
Kane every 2.4 games

Not sure how retarded you are, but thanks for posting great evidence in favour of Rashford, dumbfuck.
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>UK are allowed up to four spaces in each international tournament.

>Have one trophy between them
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>>68002860
Dier
>17
Milner
>4

Nononooooo
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>>68002851

I'm a Spuds fan and literally can't remember a single assist Townshit got for us though crossing.

He's a one-trick cut inside babby and even his longshots aren't even that good 90% of the time.
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>>68002780

>wheelchair
>any liverpool player
>rppney
>vardy without drinky
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>>68002905
We have to be split up or else we'd win every year.
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Gary Linerkers last tweet hit the nail on the head tbqhwu
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>>68002903

>judging a midfielder by how many goals he scores

What to know how I know you're a mong?
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>>68002875 see
>>68002727
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>>68002926
tricked
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>>68002383
Where is Ashley Young?

I'm not saying he's class or anything, but he's a solid 8/10 option and scores and assists regularly, the sort of player that can make a difference in tight games and he works hard.

Miles, FUCKING MILES better than the likes of Sterling, Lallana, Henderson, Wilshere...

Seems a bit stupid not to take him. And to think that Townsend was ahead of him as well in the pecking order...
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>>68002905

>implying england+bale wouldn't destroy everyone with practiced ease
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>Rashford

Great choice Roy!
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>>68002936
kek

has he even played this year? atleast those guys start for their shit teams instead of being in a shit teams reserve team
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>>68002931
3-2
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>>68002936
Young was Roy's centrepiece at the Euros 4 years ago and he has never been forgiven for letting him down
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>>68002923

I've never thought about it that way before.

From the other home nations who would actually make it into the England squad other than Bale?
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>>68002769
>its about picking a sqaud
why does a squad need 5 strikers? Rashford will NEVER play, he offers nothing that isn't already offered by other players in the squad; can you imagine if England are losing in the knockout rounds and Roy decides to bring on a pacy poacher, do you think it'll be Rashford or Sturridge that gets brought on?
Hodgson will never risk bringing him on in a game that actually matters, the only way he's going to get on the field is if the 2014 World Cup repeats itself and we're knocked out before the last group game.

A good squad will have a range of different options that can be employed to counter specific threats or change things up when plan A isn't working; what does this squad have? What's going to happen when Wilshere and Henderson inevitably succumb to injury?
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>>68002926
His assist record isn't much better.

If there was a stat for 'falling over after an unsuccessful dribble' though I'm sure he'd be up there
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>>68002907
this
Townsend is a poor man's Bale and that's complimenting him
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I don't quite understand the formation here. Basically Wilshere picks up the ball around the England third and tries to hit 25 yarders to the front 3?
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Remember a kid called Michael Owen that a manager took a chance on when he was 18

If I remember right it payed off
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>>68002972
probably nobody

maybe theres a random welsh or irish defender who would cos our defence blows
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>Roy fell for the Rashford meme

What a cunt. Only put him in due to the media hype
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>>68002987
>payed

ugh...
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>>68002974
Im not even going to read this lol
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>>68002986
m8 we dont have a tactic. we have woy as our manager. he will just say run around a lot and hope kane pulls something out of his arse
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>>68002839
>Plan B
>Building your squad around him

Pick one
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>Everyone complaining about Rashford or no Drinkwater

>No complaints about Sterling
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>>68002999
Yeah I'm sure that was literally Roy's thinking
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>>68002972
The reason it's currently split is because of the IFAB.

>The International Football Association Board (IFAB) is the body that determines the Laws of the Game of association football. IFAB was founded in 1886 to agree standardised Laws for international competition, and has since acted as the "guardian" of the internationally used Laws; since its establishment in 1904 FIFA, the sport's top governing body, has recognised IFAB's jurisdiction over the Laws.
>IFAB is made up of representatives from each of the United Kingdom's pioneering football associations—England's Football Association (The FA), the Scottish Football Association (SFA), the Football Association of Wales (FAW) and Northern Ireland's Irish Football Association (IFA)—and Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA), the international governing body for football. Each UK association has one vote and FIFA has four. IFAB deliberations must be approved by three-quarters of the vote, which translates to at least six votes. Thus, FIFA's approval is necessary for any IFAB decision, but FIFA alone cannot change the Laws of the Game—they need to be agreed by at least two of the UK members.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Football_Association_Board

You won't get a united Great Britain football team as it threatens the four FA's independence.
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I can guarantee he'll peddle bollocks like 'tournament experience', 'invaluable', 'for the future'

Same shit as the likes of Walcott, Ox et al
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>>68002926


>Beckham, Lampard, Scholes, Gerrard, Platt, Robson

What do all of England's best midfielders have in common?
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>>68003021
>implying roy can think
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Roy put in players like rashford so when it goes wrong the media will defend him by saying "look, he's blooding the youngsters! Good ol Roy!"
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>>68002907
>>68002980
That's not the case at all; he can cut inside, cross, run through the middle and play through balls. What he was doing 3 years ago is irrelevant
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>>68003025

Forgot Charlton
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>>68003020
Sterling is pretty good, he deserves to go.
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>>68003025
they play for big teams?
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>>68003040
Townsend is shits, there's a reason he'll be playing in the championship next season
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>England starting XI based on traditional positions of respective squad numbers
Hart; Walker, Cahill, Smalling, Rose; Sterling, Milner, Lallana, Vardy; Rooney, Kane.

How does this make you feel?
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>>68003020

rashford over drinkwater is pretty outrageous tho
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>>68003052
ill
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>>68003025
White?
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>>68003052
>traditional positions
>lol
t. Woy
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>>68003052
Milner is literally the only CM there, won't happen
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>>68003051
When was the last time you watched him consistantly babe?
>there's a reason he'll be playing in the championship next season
Yeah, because he signed for a club that had already been ran into the ground by Steve McClaren before he even joined
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>>68003049

They all had decent scoring records from midfield.

Whether you like it or not any decent (non-defensive) midfielder should have a half decent scoring record.
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>5 world class strikers

it's coming home lads
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>>68002719

I don't, he's our best player by a fucking mile when he's fit
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>>68002972
Many Scottish, Irish and Welsh internationals are actually just Englishmen who weren't good enough to play for England
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>>68003100
back to /arse/ you go. Inb4 MUH MOTM BY ITV, they also gave it to Danny Rose and Rashford the last 2 games. they mean nothing
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>>68002972

How about England's Brave Ashley Williams? Definitely in the squad at least.
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>>68003083
you know it will
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>>68003118

I'm a man utd fan lad and most of us would give our right arm right now for a midfielder of his quality
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>>68002987
Owen
>played a full season before his inclusion
>23 goals in 44 games prior to the 1998 World Cup
Rashford
>only made the Man Utd team in March
>11 EPL games

This is more comparable to Theo Walcott in 2006
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>>68002972
based Robbie Keane

but in all seriousness, possibly Ashley Williams as Englands defence is pure shite
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>>68003002
it's like 3 sentences m8
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>>68002948
---Kane--Vardy
------BAYOL----

literally nothing else matters teams would get raped on counters by bale and vardy, and they all offer something different going forward, Bale with his dribbling long shots and technique, kane with his technique, strength and shooting accuracy and vardy with his workrate pace and ability to get in behind. would be a massacre
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>>68003140
More damning indictment of man united than anything else. He's mediocre as fuck
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>>68002987

Remember Frederic Macheda?
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dunno why everyone's seen their arse over Rashford, he'll barely play anyway unless we are bumfucking some traktor fc country in the 80th minute, there's always several squad players that never even get on the picth in every tournament
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>>68003170
>He's mediocre as fuck

Hence the current state of English football, that Jack Wilshere is currently England's most technically gifted player. These are the facts.
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>>68003090
Andres Iniesta manages roughly 1 goal every 10 games for club and country
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>>68003170

he'd be better than mediocre if he wasn't such a crock tbf
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literally coming home lads
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>>68003174
>he'll barely play

Exactly, he's taking up a squad spot vacated by Drinkwater.
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>>68003179
it's alright saying he has X ability but he never fucking plays due to injuries. I would prefer to take 7/10 drinkwater than an 8/10 wilshire who maybe plays 90 minutes once, drinkwater is good enough to start he may have not been great in the last couple of friendlies but people forget he got MOTM against holland with his first international cap
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rashford > drinky >>>>> studge
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>>68003170

he was comfortably england's best player in the qualifiers until he got injured, are you so blinded by your irrational hatred for Arsenal that you can't make player observations about a simple game like football?
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>>68003228
Lolno. Sturridge has shown much more over a longer period of time than Rashford
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>tfw Wales' squad is unironically better than England's
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>>68003210

Who would also not play, what's your point?
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>>68003206
Starting XI for russia right there
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>yfw it is LITERALLY coming home
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England fan syndrome is back. Complain that England players should be picked on form and that the Euros should be used as a platform and then also complain when Woy picks Rashford.

ABUism is a mental disorder.
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>>68003250
>Jazz Richards

Da Feck
>>
Guys I can't work out who the third player that got cut is

Townsend, Drinky and...
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>>68003250

it's complete wank, plus most of them are english
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>>68003259
*against fuck
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>>68003250
We'll see come the 16th of June m8.
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>>68003270
Delph
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>>68003270
Delph, but he got injured a week or so ago so it was already confirmed
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>>68003254
Wilshere and Henderson will collapse and die in the extreme heat following the coin toss, who is going to replace them?
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>>68003250
It isn't though, is it
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cor thats fucking shite
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>>68003263
>Barkley
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Bit of a contradiction there Garry
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>>68003289

Do you have a serious answer m8 or is that feeble joke the best you can muster?
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>>68003206
>Only 1 Liverpool player
Woy won't allow this
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>>68003250
I wish Simon Church would just fuck off
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Dzagoev is out of Russia squad saw him.being big threat more confident.now
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>>68002619
You don't pick form players. You pick the ones who've worked well together, Drinkwater has barely played with this England side.
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I'd take Drinkwater over fucking Wilshere because he's played the whole season, and being part of a title winning squad.

I will fully agree Wilshere is decent for England when 100%, but he isn't (judging by the friendlies, never mind every other fucking tournament)
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>tfw no plan B
>tfw Milner, Henderson or Lallana could unironically be first 11 players
>tfw no high energy OX or Theo off the bench
>tfw Memecus Memeford purely because he plays for United

Seriously, I'd rather take fucking Defoe than him
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>>68003309
HE SHOT IT OVER THE BAR STEW. BARKLEY, HE RAN WITH THE BALL FOR TOO LONG, THEN SHOT IT OVER THE BAR
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>>68003328
Bog Sim pls go
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>>68003335

Pick Drinkwater, have him hoof it up to Vardy - Euro 2016 winning strategy right there.
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>>68003318
Wilshere and Henderson won't be fit enough to play in every game and the likes of Townsend and Drinkwater offer alternative ways of playing to counter specific threats or exploit weaknesses in the opposition, Rashford offers nothing that isn't already offered by other strikers in the squad. I can see multiple situations where Drinkwater and Townsend would be brought one, I can envisage none where Rashford will be called on
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>>68003347
>purely because he plays for United

If that's why he picked him why didn't he pick all utd's english players?
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>>68003347
Ox and Theo are shite
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>>68003347
Defoe should have been picked ahead of Sturridge and Rashford.
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>>68003347
>Theo

probably been one of the worst players I've watched this season

he sholdbe hitting his peak,but fuck me he's regressed badly
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>>68003347

I'd rather take Defoe over Theo too.
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>>68003347
>tfw no high energy OX or Theo off the bench
>tfw Memecus Memeford purely because he plays for United

>this logic
ABUism is a mental disorder.
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>>68003265

>using the form meme
>Henderson, Wilshere and Barkley all picked
>no Defoe or Drinkwater
>HURR DURR ABU
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>no Drinkwater
>no Townsend
>no Defoe

It's ogre.
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>Put 5 solid lads at the back
>Start Rooney behind Vardy, Kane, Sturridge
>2 hard working lads in midfield
>Play Leicester quick transition football
>Win because other teams can't outscore you
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Wilshere is mentally shot by now. Watch him flake out thirty minutes into his first game as one of his many broken body parts starts to hurt.
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uhhhh who plays dm if dier is out or we need to protect a lead and be defensive?

don't say woy still sees wilshere as a dm? i rate wilshere but he can't tackle and doesn't have good defensive positioning, it was obvious how much better drinkwater was there against australia


rashford being taken is a joke too, wonder what defoe thinks - also without townsend sterling is the only guy who can offer any width if the team needs it, unless hodgson persists with putting vardy out there who again is good but not a winger

barkley being taken is another big joke
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>>68003335
Drinkwater
>3 caps
>involved with England in march
>present throughout the provisional squad training sessions
Rashford
>no England experience whatsoever prior to the announcement of the 26 man provisional squad
>missed half of the squad's time together due to playing in the FA Cup final
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>>68003369

I'm sure woy tried his hardest to get Carrick in there 2bh
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>>68003416
I guess Woy's thinking Milner
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>>68003336
Wilshere obviously has just been taking it easy in the friendlies as so not to risk anything, same with Hendo.

I hate to break it to you but winning a medal doesn't actually make you better than a player who didn't. I'd still pick Griezmann for my team than Vasquez. And for the England team, Drinkwater won't have a machine in Kante alongside him.

This whole 'copy Leicester' reminds me of the 'play like Liverpool' we heard at the World Cup, and newsflash, that fucking failed.
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>>68003400
If you're complaining about literally the most in form England player available then yes you either suffer from some form of multiple personality disorder or an ABU sufferer.
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>>68003426

He didn't try at all, he didn't even make the provisional squad did he? And what about Young, or Borthwick Jackson? They're utd players too, why didn't he pick them either?
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>>68002780
>players with world and European experience and are not chokers
Comes to a grand total of zero Englishmen. All of them choked badly this season.
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England lacks width and of course creativity. CB depth youre fucked if someone is injured or suspended. Too many strikers.

USA would win 3-1
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>>68003417

Never mind;

Drinkwater

>played an entire season with a PL winning squad
>good synergy with Vardy
>hardworking

>Wilshere
>barely played all season
>shit as a DM
>looked unfit during friendlies
>only good when 100%
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>>68003417
Yeah but bringing a teenage attacker mascot is now a tradition for England , and with Welbeck injured Roy was always going to pick a wildcard. Not like Drinkwater was competing with Rashford for a spot anyhow.
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>>68003453
The word "choked" has become so overused, it doesn't just mean losing a match
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>>68002802
I don't necessarily think it's unreliable (if I can be proven wrong, please do so). I think it's just valuing recent data points a lot more than older ones.
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>>68003452

>Borthwick Jackson

Even woy cannot meme that hard
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>>68003436

woy played Wilshere at the bottom of the diamond in the qualifiers, before he got injured and said that he disagrees with Wenger over his best position in midfield
>>
>woyes
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>>68003462
Wilshere
>one of England's best players in the Euro qualifiers

Drinkwater
>was watching them on TV
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>>68003487
>playing Wheelchair in the most tackle heavy position
rip ankles
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>>68003484

Are Carrick and Young memes as well?
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>>68003488

>Summer of Woyes

>Mouyes v Poop in August
>Cunte at Chelsea
>Leicester in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
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>>68003506

I know kek, everytime you saw him go flying in for a tackle you winced in anticipation
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>>68003471
>Not like Drinkwater was competing with Rashford for a spot anyhow
he was though, not for a starting XI place but a squad place, if Rashford pulls out through injury Woy isn't going to call up another striker as a replacement, it'll be Drinkwater or Townsend that get the call-up
We have
>3 CM (2 of them are highly injury-prone)
>2 CAM
>3 Wingers
>5 Strikers

Swapping a striker for a CM would have brought far more balance to the squad
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>>68003501

>Qualified - September 2015

8 fucking months ago.
>>
HOW TO FIX IT

+ Drinky
+ Townsend

- Barkley
- Sturridge

done
>>
If it wasn't for Wilshere England would have lost to Slovenia. To put this in perspective. Slovenias coach has said that the quality in Slovenia is the same as in San Marino.
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>>68003563
>+ Townsend
No
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>>68003563
>townsend ahead of sturridge

my sides
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>>68003563

Townsend is even more of a meme than the two you want out

Drinky is a water carrier
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>>68003586

>Drinky is a water carrier

Did you watch the Australia game? Never mind the whole fucking season.
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>>68003552

and now he's fit again just in time, fantastic eh lad?
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>>68003582
>sturridge ahead of anyone
We need players who still have knees
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>>68003598

>and now he's fit again

Until he goes in for a tackle and gets crocked for the whole tournament.
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>>68003563

-Rashford

instead of sturridge
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>>68003598
He's not match fit though, as shown in the friendlies. Are you slow?
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>>68003596
Drinkwater was shit in the Australia game
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>>68003566
He did score a couple of lovely goals.
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>>68003566
except another player would have taken his place in the starting XI and the game would've been completely different, for all you know his hypothetical replacement could've scored 7 goals.
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>>68003621

Do you have eyes? He was a better fucking DM than Wilshere was.
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>>68003610
Sturridge didn't have any injuries in 2016, Woy got him a knock already, but if he's fit for the tournament he's 100x better than Townsend
>>
Who does Woy call when one of our 3 CBs pulls up injured in training?

Terry?
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>>68003632
That's a non argument.
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>>68003566

Which was months ago.

A lot has happened since then.
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>>68003625

that goal is better than anything that shitwater will ever do on a football pitch
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>>68003646
This is the worst scenario because it means Dier at CB and Wilshit in DM, getting knocked over and offering no protection
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>>68002962
none of those players would start for manchester united familia
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>>68003639

Townsend is complete shit, he's just a vastly inferior version of Le Cut Inside Man
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>>68003649
so is saying we would've lost without Wilshere. Had Wilshere been absent we wouldn't have played with 10 men, someone else would've taken his place and the game would have been completely different from the first second
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>no drinky
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>>68003665

Making tackles and hoofing it up to Vardy beats meme goals in qualifiers any day.
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>>68003639
Different player to Townsend

We have enough good strikers and I'd rather ride the meme magic with Rashford than rely on le crock man who's hardly played

Townsend offers something totally different and may be the only player in the squad that can actually cross a ball
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>>68003677

That doesn't mean you should select him based on that though.
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>>68003140
No, we would not. He's fucking shit and has a shit attitude too.

Wouldn't get close to our starting 11 when Fellaini, Carrick, Schwein, Schneid, Herrera, Blind were all fit.
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>no Drinky
>5 strikers
>Rooney

you almost had me England. you almost made me excited to watch you.

now you fucks will be group stage exits, and that makes me happy. useless faggots
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>>68003676
>>68003586
>>68003582
>>68003577
>All of these people who haven't watched Townsend play in 2-3 years
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>>68003635

no shit sherlock wilshere isn't a dm
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>no drinkeh
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B-bu kanteh, drinkeh and all the boys...
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>>68003625
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>>68003720

>Wilshere isn't a DM

Woy thinks he is, that's the issue.
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>>68003646
probably
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>>68003703
that's precisely my point
>>68003720
that's where he'll be playing for England
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>pick Drinky
>Lump it up to Vardy

Do you not want to win the Euros?
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>>68002473
You just wait for Conte
>>
Wilshere against Slovenia is the Wilshere against Barca. He'll be dining out on it for years.
>>
All english players are garbage
The only one who might be good is sturridge when hes fit
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>>68003754

You mean Cunte.
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>>68003708

>Drinkwater
>Exciting

One.
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>>68003625
>Lol but wilshere is so shit XD
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>>68003777

>gets stuck in
>gives it to Vardy for free goals

I find that exciting tbqh famicom.
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>>68003754
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>>68003250
>only 1 and a half relevant players

lmao

k m8
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>>68003777
keep sucking on that Woy cock. only Arseshit and United faggots are happy with this.

congratulations, England loses yet again.
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>>68003768
it's actually Gonde
>>
Rate my meme team
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>>68003783

>lol but Wilshere is good - qualifier goals ! xd

Never mind Wilshere, don't say any English player is good until they have done something of worth at a tournament.
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>>68003753

anyone can lump it up to vardy m8, may as well use people that don't look like glue sniffers from some manc council estate
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>>68003797

>gets stuck in

Aye, but so does Milner and everyone ITT seems to hate him. This obsession with workrate and covering ground is why England don't win anything.
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>>68003764
>49 goals between them
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>>68003801
fucking hell conte hes the goat JUST cuts. useful for when chelsea lose
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>>68003803

I'm just saying your only gripe seems to be the omission of Drinkwater, who isn't an exciting player to watch.
>>
You're a fucking retard Roy. No seriously, you and your pathetic excuse of a coaching staff are retarded to not take, let alone start Drinkwater. You have to be a retard to do that, it's not even sane I believe. I can't get my head around how utterly retarded it is having 5 fucking strikers when we're only going to be playing Kane as a loner and Vardy out wide, and leaving arguably England's best all round central midfielder since Paul Scholes behind.

And all of you, who have not watched Leicester all season, all of last season or the two years before when Drinkwater was by a large the best fucking player in the team and is still up there as one of the most important, shame on you. Shame on you. You know full well DD would be in that England team if he was a Tottenham player.

Roy, you delusional twat. You're to blame the most for playing and training Drinkwater in the DM position, when that's not his position or his game, that's his additional duty for Leicester because he's so fucking talented as a midfielder he can do it all. You're an idiot, the coaches are all idiots, anyone that would not take Drinkwater is a fucking idiot.
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>>68003803

Why do you care Jamal?
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>>68003816
god i bet you're thick as fuck
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>>68003646
Bertrand has played CB as part of a back 3 in quite a lot of games this season. Will likely be him filling in.
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>>68003840

10/10.
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>>68003840
This.
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>>68003764

>be french
>only like the black english players

what a surprise
>>
>>68003860

>god I bet you're thick as fuck

Because I actually want England win a tournament instead of praising mediocrity? Wew lad.
>>
>>68003736
>>68003750

nah, he'll play dier at the bottom of the diamond
>>
>>68003840
>>
>>68003886

And guess what happens when he gets injured, or subbed.

You get Wilshere or fucking Milner at the bottom.
>>
>>68003840
kek

top pasta senpai
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>>68003898

he won't
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>>68003862
>10/10
Fuck off, seriously this is bemusing to me.
I honestly don't know how you can justify having that midfield and that strike force and leave behind Drinkwater. There is no justification for it.
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>>68003910

>he won't

Ask Woy that.
>>
>wilshire
>played 1 game all season
>noble and drinkwater
>over 100 games

explain this?
>>
2012 Euro

Squad: Joe Hart, Glen Johnson, Ashley Cole, Steven Gerrard, Martin Kelly, John Terry, Theo Walcott, Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll, Wayne Rooney, Ashley Young, Leighton Baines, Robert Green, Phil Jones, Joleoin Lescott, James Milner, Scott Parker, Phyil Jagielka, Steward Downing, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jermain Defoe, Danny Welbeck, Jack Butland

2014 World Cup

Squad: Joe Hart, Glen Johnson, Leighton Baines, Steven Gerrard, Gary Cahill, Phil Jagielka, Jack Wilshere, Frank Lampard, Daniel Sturridge, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck, Chris Smalling, Ben Foster, Jordan Henderson, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Phil Jones, James Milner, Rickie Lambert, Raheem Sterling, Adam Lallana, Ross Barkley, Fraser Forster, Luke Shaw
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>>68003924

Slovenia goal>an entire season apparently.
>>
>>68003924
Wilshere is better at playing football then the other two
>>
>>68003946

When he's 100% and not crocked, sure.
>>
>>68003801
What's the name of this hairstyle?
>>
>>68003946
Wilshere has missed 73 Premier League games in 3 years
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>>68003962

Just Conte my Chelsea up.
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>>68003934
RIP world class talent hello memes
>>
>>68003919

I did he said he won't
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>>68003962
the Gareth Bale
>>
>no Will Griggs

Why Woy?
>>
>>68003955
I think the England coaching staff know better then you when assessing a players fitness levels.plus in all honesty he looked sharp to me in the games he has played

just trust the selections and get behind England

[spoiler]welp
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>>68003934
Remember back in the days, when niggas had ways...
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>>68003970

and he's still better
>>
I really dont even know why were all debating the midfeild and attack

are defense is the real problem
>>
>>68003916

Christ. I agree that Drinkwater should have been a part of the 23, but you're acting as if his omission has ruined all hope for England.

He's a decent player coming off a great season but he's not a match winner or anything, getting this assblasted over the fringes of the squad is just so unnecessary. I'd understand the anger if he left out Alli, Vardy or Kane, for example, but Danny Drinkwater? Hardly a game changer.
>>
>>68004004
;..;7
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>>68003946
*was once upon a time
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>>68004024
Hes obviously a lecicster fan caught up in the hysteria
>>68004016
woops our*
>>
>>68004004
>this team won fuck all
>>
>>68004016
Because there's no defenders who were undeservedly dropped as a result of nepotism
>>
>>68004016
yes but we know thats shit. whoever we put there is shit. its gonna leak 100 goals nomatter what we do so we may aswell figure out how to score them
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>>68004024

no common sense on spee you cheeky cunt
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>>68002383
NO DRINKY. Not even a Fox fan but, What the fuck man!!!
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Sterling and Henderson

not Townsend and Drinkwater

he's fucking D E H Y D R A T E D
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>>68004045
Sven shoehorning all of the best players into one starting XI instead of making a functional unit
>Scholes on the left
>Gerrard and Lampard together

This could have been GOAT
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>Hendershit
>>
I totally agree that not in a million yeras should hendershit go over drinkwater, but people saying wilshere shouldn't go when he is the only actually talented player in the entire england team is delusional
>>
>>68004044
Correct, and I have watched Drinkwater in a 2-man midfield, in a diamond, every formation under different managers in different leagues with different players and I can tell you this. He's a fucking superstar when he's on that pitch. You're not just getting an excellent tackler, a tracker back a bruiser who doesn't get booked, an excellent short passer who can keep possession and will track wingers back to intercept crosses which he's done all year, but you're getting someone who combines all the defensive work of Dier, but with actual fucking consistency, combined with the creative intelligence and world class passing of Carrick Scholes etc. This man should go far, this man would win Manchester United the Premier League if they changed their ways. He's been largely shadowed by Mahrez' skills and assists all year but Drinky has been more important than Mahrez.
>>
Woy obviously hates winners as only 1 of his squad won anything relevant this yer.
>>
>>68004004
Vassell ruined it.
>>
>Vardy wont get started
>Pooney will
>Sterling will
>Lellana will

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>people think wilshere has talent

this isnt 2009 lads.

cant tell if its /arse/ brigading the thread or one autist spamming
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>>68004156
Gascoigne is more talented, we should take him. He's in better condition than wheelchair too.
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>>68004165
>Vardy won't get started
oh he might. On the wing
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>tfw bale wrecks you with or without drinkwater
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>>68004136

Tbf that was what we all wanted at the time.

I was 16 at the time, I really thought we could do it.
>>
>>68004189
Watch Andy King score against England now because Wilshere won't pick him up.

Thanks Roy, not selecting Drinkwater will cost you your job.
>>
>>68004189
Filtered.
>>
>falling for the Drinkwater meme

Pretty sure WilshGOAT has scored 4 or 5 bloots for England recently.
>>
https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/737658619190120448

ayy
>>
>>68004178

slight problem with that plan in that gazza is long retired
>>
>tfw gonna go out in groups again

Fucks sake
>>
>>68002572

With all your star power you probly won't make it past the second round. With Belgium the whole is always less than the sum of the parts.
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>>68003840
this desu
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>Rashclown
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>>68004253

post yfw he is top scorer in the tournament including the winning goal in the final
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>>68004004

>All those GOATS
>then Vassell
>still didn't win anything
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>>68004165

>Woy will play Rppney up front instead of behind where he shines
>Vardy will play on the wing

It's all ogre.
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>>68002383
Squad (No specific positions)

>GK
Hart

>Defence
Rose,Cahill,Smalling,Walker

>Mids
Kane,Alli,Dier

>Attack
Vardy,Rashford,Sturridge

>Bench
Forster
Clyne
Sterling
Lallana
Rooney
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>>68004308

>Mids
>Kane
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>>68004136
only hart would get in that squad

JUST
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>>68004325
Wilshere over Hargreaves mate.
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>>68004308

>Mids
>Kane
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>>68004318
>>68004341
>I have never heard of an attacking mid
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>Those midfield options

>Milner the definition of utility man 6/10 every game that any clogger could do
>Henderson not fit and not progressed for 3 years
>Lallana 1 decent game out of every 10
>Sterling overhyped shite hasnt progressed all year and badly out of form
>Wilshere permacrock who isnt fit and and can't tackle and hasnt progressed for 5 years
>Barkley absolute mug who is in shit form and gives the ball away 9 times out of 10 when he has it with his permagreed of taking on 6 players

Kill me now
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>>68004339

Hargreaves was one of our best players at that tournament u wot m9.

Then he got crocked and became an irrelvant shitter.
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>>68004350

He's a fucking striker though not an attacking midfielder you munter
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>>68004350

>Kane
>attacking mid
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>>68002719
Because he's played 4 seconds of football all season and he's in the England team over one someone who played almost every game this season and was of the most important members of a title winning team.
Also because everyone hates Arsenal.
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>5 liverpool players
>2 everton players
>3 united players
>ONE leicester player

I really hope we don't win a single game.
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>>68004369

he played more than 4 seconds lad
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>>68004365
>>68004367
He can play as that though in this squad, his playmaking skills would be put to great use you memelords
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>>68003250
>Hal Robson-Kanu in a squad that's better than England's
Yeah, no
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>>68004241
Wilshere probably will be in 6 months at the rate he's going.
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>Rooney
You want to be disappointed I see
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>>68004372

much like the city of leicester itself they only have a couple of english people anyway
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>>68004378

>He can play as that though in this squad

Yeah lets play him out of position for the first time in his career at the fucking Euros

Roy is that you?
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>>68003801
Damn, I didn't know he had a hair transplant. Very impressive results.
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Rooney will play in midfield so it's four strikers, not five.

Drinkwater is not good enough for England and I'd rather have a semi fit wilshere.

Would still have taken Drinky instead of Hendo but otherwise, this is fine. Football is still on track to come home.
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>>68002383

I'm more mad at sturrshit getting in than anyone else desu, he's not even first choice at a mid table shitters club
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>>68004392
kek

I've actually given thought to player chemistry rather than putting all the young uns on the pitch so no not really tbqhwyf
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>>68004239
He's right. French team looks amazing.
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>>68004372
Why do you hate the north west, it's the football heart of this country
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>>68004378
>calls others memelords
>suggests we retrain a player in a new position that he's never played in 12 days before the tournament
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>>68003946
Isn't part of playing football actually turning up and playing though? Because he's already failed that one.
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>>68004399
>Rooney will play in midfield
Nice, you can lose possession way earlier.

This is a more efficient way to lose playing Rooney
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>Cahill
>Smalling
>Stones
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>taking hamstridge & memeford
>1 proper wide player

yeah lets have 3 identical strikers and no width, fuck me
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how old were you when you realized Roy calls Sky to ask them which players to pick?
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there's no Stevie and his defence splitting [spoiler]headers[/spoiler]
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>>68004438

woy doesn't use wide players you nipple
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>>68004445

his defence splitting slips you mean
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Is this the thread where we greentext names without bringing any suggestings on who should be taken instead?
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>>68004448
Yeah he loves to crowd the middle then watch us get raped with an easy outball for the opposition outwide every single match

Australia were dicking all over us last game, same with the Turkroachs

It was terrible
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>>68004399
>Drinkwater is not good enough for England
He's good enough to be a key player in a title winning side, so what does that make Henderson and Lallana?
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I don't get the hate for Milner, he's the best all-round midfielder we have. He might not be spectacular but we need someone who'll pick up the pieces when Lallana or Barkley do something retarded.
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>>68004423
>Doesn't want to take a calculated risk with our best and most complete player

WEW
E
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>>68002902
>68002902

>implying roberto carlos couldn't defend

just because he was fucking bullet man overlapper doesn't mean he wasn't comfortable getting back
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>hurr durr lets take Lellana and Hendershit they are so good

Just fucking shoot Roy already
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>>68004459
Try reading the thread first, plenty of suggestions.
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>>68004414
In his defence all 3 of those teams have flopped this season.
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isn't Woyes done after these euros regardless?
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>>68004467

>our best and most complete player

wow how delusional are you?
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During his six-month spell as manager of Liverpool, Roy Hodgson oversaw the recruitment of seven players and the departure of eight. Those incoming transfers have cost approximately £23,850,000 at an average of over £3,400,000 per player, and the departures have brought in approximately £26,050,000 in transfer fees. Roy Hodgson therefore made a profit of approximately £2,200,000 on transfer fees during his short time in charge of the team.

In
Player From Fee Date
Joe Cole Chelsea Free 21 July 2010
Danny Wilson Rangers £2,000,000 21 July 2010
Fabio Aurelio Free Agent Free 31 July 2010
Christian Poulsen Juventus £4,550,000 11 August 2010
Brad Jones Middlesbrough £2,300,000 18 August 2010
Raul Meireles Porto £11,500,000 29 August 2010
Paul Konchesky Fulham £3,500,000 31 August 2010
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>>68004487
>best paid manager in the euros
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thank you Woy you are our greatest ally
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>>68004498

I doubt it, unless we get bummed and knocked out in the group stage
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>>68004467
>calculated risk
Nothing calculated about it it's just plain idiotic to put the league top scorer in midfield.
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---------------Hart
--Walker--Cahill--Smalling--Rose
------------------Dier
--------Rooney---???
-----------------Alli
------Kane------------Vardy

This is a fucking great team, you autists need to shut the fuck up.

I assume either Henderson or Wilshere will play in CM, they are shit but 10 out of 11 good choices is way better than I expected we would get.
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>Drinky out

the English are fucking retarded
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>>68004528

>???

Now imagine if we have Drinky to finish out the squad
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>>68004474
Lallana is good senpai. livershits best player this year
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>>68004498
Get Ranieri in
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>>68004522
hiss contract is up before the WC I think, so there's a good chance another underwhelming performance will see the back of him.
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>>68004506
>yfw Roy bought Brad Jones, Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen
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>>68004528
>that defence
>rooney cm
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>>68004515

Were you actually worried?
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>>68004498
he wanted to renew before the euros but got cucked by the FA. If England reach the QF they'll probably give him another contract kek
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>>68004548
>Ranieri
>national teams
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>>68004500
Name me a better player in the squad. I'll wait.
>>68004524
Fair point, I just see more in his playmaking for this squad
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Why do people rave about Wilshere's performances in qualifying and friendlies but then if you bring up Rooney's goalscoring record in those exact same type of games people say it doesnt count cause its vs. shit teams.
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>>68004569
no, I knew Woy would Woy it up
but confirmation is always nice
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>>68004543
Milner is the only English player from liverpool worth consideration.
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>>68004575
because they're Arselel fans
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>>68004575
discrimination against gingers
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Hey guys, anyone want to do some training?
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>>68004575
/sp/ is 1/2 arsenal fans..
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>>68002383
>people caring about townsend
he's shite
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>>68004604
He's better than Barkley, at least he can occasionally beat a player now and then unlike that useless Ginger cunt
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>>68004588
Not sure there's a better RB than clyne
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>>68004595
I'll do some Rondo Woy la
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how do you imagine Woy trying to yell at someone?

>Now listen here young man, when I was your age... now let's see that must have been... 1971-72 maybe... ah, yes I remember Francis Lee scoring those beautiful goals... Derby won the league back then, what times, what times....
>anyways lads run off now
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Rashford alternatives:
>andy (better defender than stones) carroll
>jermain (too old, but somehow inform) defoe
>troy (too slow for old woy) deeney
>andre (championship? fuck off mate) gray
>charlie (still better than memford) austin
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>>68004655
>You walk into the dressing room at half-time and he gets up and just stands there doing this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aav46Lek0Rs
>Y-you okay, gaffer?
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I think it's pretty clear from the games that he played for Arsenal at the end of the season and the friendlies that Wilshere is categorically not fit and has been rushed back. He looks incredibly lethargic and sluggish and has lost that nimbleness. Scoring against Slovenwho in a qualifier 6 gorillion months ago doesn't change that.

Regarding Drinkwater, Woy played him out of position and used his performances there to justify dropping him, the old cunt. Drinkwater is an interception merchant and could be used as a perfect catapult for a counter attacking England, but nah.
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>>68004681
Do we really need 5 strikers though?
Or is it confirmation Rooney will be a midfielder
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>>68004681
Or make do with 4 strikers and take a midfielder who isn't made of paper mache
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To be slightly fair to Roy, Drinkwater was absolute toilet against Australia but
>judging on 1 game
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>Rooney as a striker
>Wilshere and Henderson both half dead

Someone, please, explain this
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>>68004695
rooney will be our starting cam, despite the existence of alli
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We needed an extra CB, but who?
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>win PL title with goatpotus defense
>dont get into the 23

cant wait for all these useless blacks like smalling, sterling, sturridge, --ALL ARSESHIT PLAYERS--, and rushedTURD to choke and achieve literally NOTHING because they're all fucking pacebabbies and for england to get bundled out of the group stage as per usual.

reminder that blacks are literally subhuman filth who are too stupid to play football. if you put too many of them on your team, you just lose.
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>still picking players who are more popular over the ones who had a better season
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>>68004703
or 4 strikers and another wide option?
shame about welbeck really, he is one of woy's favouites that i actually rate
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>>68004239

Outside of the midfield and OUI they're really nothing special.

Also, people ITT are throwing their pissbottles against the wall protesting over Drinkwater getting cut, but this lot not only unironically have Moussa Shitssoko in their squad, but they picked him ahead of Ben Arfa.
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>everyone getting mad
>Everyone geting angry
>Forgetting it's already coming home
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>>68004717
Good post.
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>>68004716
Dier is he cover for 4th. Cover for Dier? Nah.
>Milner or wheelchair at base of the midfield
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>>68004716
old woy is counting on dier as the 4th cb if needed
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Why the fuck is Woy still in charge after that shambles of a WC 2014?
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>>68004745
big sam needs to be new england big dog
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>>68004743
>>68004744
I get that, but he hasn't played there for over a year. It's dumb.
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>>68004745
No one else wants the job
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>>68004717
counterpoint: n'golo kante
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>>68004758
oh yeah absolutely but woy needed space for his precious new-age-michael-owen
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>>68004004

>back in the day Ledley King couldn't even get a game

How far we've fallen
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>>68002719

lallana is technically gifted that you left out
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>>68004758
Neither has wilshere but he'll still start him provided he can walk unaided.
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anyone else here think international football is just a big fucking joke?

only a handful of teams will ever win anything ever, and UEFA has fucked over eastern europe with the creation of the champs league. you will never have east v west or competitive world cups ever again. even south america is remarkably dogshit and football is the only semen slurping sport they have down there. no one takes this shit seriously any more i was watching australia get bounced by >england and theres 20 year olds who get outpaced by wayne fucking rooney. what a load of shit.

nationality rules are complete fucking cancer too. nice """""german""""" football team you queer cocksuckers.
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https://streamable.com/bkjt

YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT ALL
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>>68004779
He would be captain and best player right now.
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>i'll be a hero when this kid is the next michael owen

exactly what old woy is thinking
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Guys we haven't discussed the worst addition to a squad yet:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36415794

>You now remember his last attempt at being a pundit
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>Wilshere
>142 minutes of football this season
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>>68004805
>The 30-year-old joins a BBC studio line-up led by Gary Lineker that also includes Alan Shearer, Rio Ferdinand, Thierry Henry and Gianluca Vialli.

>The BBC team will also feature Martin Keown, Jermaine Jenas, Danny Murphy, Robbie Savage, John Hartson, Dean Saunders, Chris Brunt, Neil Lennon, Gerry Armstrong, Mark Lawrenson, Kevin Kilbane and Jens Lehmann.

Dear god

ITV might somehow be the better option for once
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>>68004828
It's your version of Schweinsteiger.
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>>68004790
They need to change nationality rules and ditch the boring qualifiers. Too many shitty post communist countries.
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>>68004828
Meanwhile Walcott hasn't played enough football to warrent being included
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Not only has Drinkwater won the Premier League in a 2 (two) man midfield. And not only has he done it looking incredible, gifting balls to Vardy, Mahrez et al and making attackers look shit, but he's also statistically the better defensive, holding, ball winning and central midfielder to be born in England.
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>>68004837

>all those ''''''''experts'''''''''

And Ferdinand can fuck right off, possibly the most inarticulate man to have ever spoken in front of a camera.
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>>68004843
wouldn't mind a player with Schweinsteiger's experience in our squad desu
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>>68004837
>Lawrenson
fuck yeah. Lawro is 100% certifiable insane and I love it
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>>68004862
the absolute state of Roy
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>>68004837
anyone else remember Adebayor's punditry? Completely incomprehensible
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Gonna put vardy down as top scorer of the tournament for the memes
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>>68004909

I can already imagine him hitting the Paris nightlife with his WKD Blues.
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>>68004875
>muh experience
m8 he's a waste of a slot, much like Podolski
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>>68004837
>Shearer stating the obvious
>Ferdinand being a dumb chav
>Henry being boring as fuck
>Vialli struggling to speak English
>Lawro depressing the entire world every time he speaks, and dressing like a fella who goes the salvation army for tea and toast
>Everything about Robbie Savage

Fuck that. I'll stick with ITV
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>>68004972
>Implying Kharraga and Jamie "spread my legs" Redknapp are any better
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>>68004972

I agree, but ITV isn't much better desu.

Guess it's the best out of two turds really.
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>>68005003
Carra has good bantz, and Jamie has more to offer than toads like Shearer
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>>68002963
>Friendly game
>Meaning anything at all
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Is Barry Davies commentating?
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>>68002948
Woy would find some way of fucking it up, they'd score a few goals but any competent country would brutally tear apart woys midfield setup
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NO CUT PRICE INSIDE MAN

ENGLAND DOOMED

>WOY
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why did the FA go for Roy in the first place?
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>>68004741

i've never seen a team that was predominatly black ever do well. 2 main reasons.

1. they fuck up the locker room mentality
2. they play on instinct and get fucking annihilated by tactical teams like italy and germany who counter 'instinct' with 80% possession and tilting the fuck out of them
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>>68004766

defending is the most braindead thing you could ever learn on a football pitch. he was instructed to run at people and harass them and that is not hard at all. yes he did his job, but is he a great passer or a goalscorer? no? well ok then, fine. hes paid what hes worth, and thats not very much compared to what premium passers and goalscorers normally get. if you put a team full of 'kantes' on, they will never score a single goal the whole season
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>>68002383
>Hernderson
>Stones
>Dier
>Barkley
>Wheelchair


>No Drinkwater
>No Townsend
>No Albrighton

SIR WOY AWISES
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>>68005169
they needed a "safe" choice and they were in a bind since Capello left almost without prior notice
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>>68005252
>you'll never score a goal with a team of dm's
fucking hell, next you'll be telling me that arsenal would've won the league if their entire squad was mezut ozil
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>>68004794

that pass is remarkable, and its sad not many people know why.

a low drive lob with extreme backspin, akin to a hit from a fairway wood. the way the ball loses all its energy as it hits the ground, amazing. so many other players--worse players, would of just whacked it straight with low spin and have the ball outrun the striker. this is about 80% of these 'through balls'
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>>68005302

nah lad, ozil tanks games like no tomorrow. yes hes a good passer, but he passes when he should shoot, and shoots when he should pass. its why madrid tossed him away.

also his scoring rate is complete dogshit, your perennial chance eater if u will.
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>>68005169
Roy = popular with the media and MUH ENGLISH MANAGER
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So now that England are guaranteed to divebomb out of the group stages what is everyone's second team?

/belgium/ reporting
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>>68005369
that would be almost impossible, you'd need 3 or less points from Slovakia, Russia and Wales cmon
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>>68005401
>one point against a crippled Suarez, Italy's weakest team in a decade, and Costa Rica

It is very possible
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>>68005525
>comparing the group of death to Russia, Slovakia and Wales
don't be so defeatist, it's embarrassing
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I'M FUCKING DONE WITH THIS SHIT WHY IS HE SUCH AN INEPT OWL LOOKING FUCK FACE WHY IS ROY SO FUCKING RETARDED WILSHERE IS LITERALLY A MEME

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>>68004189
>tfw bale runs towards the camera doing a heart gesture with his fingers to rapturous applause
>tfw you walk toward the camera, looking sweatier than bale despite being in a kitchen in wales and not playing football in the heat of spain and get mocked for it.
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