I'm sorry but if Lebron wins the championship this year then there is no question that he is the best ever
Autism: the thread
>>67911812
half as many as MJ
Look at his hairline, lol.
He's already one of the best. No one has the skillset Lebron has and we'll probably not see another player like him in our lifetimes
Oakland basketball club will
Curry MVP
>>67911911
>skillset
E$PN pls die
Jordan was better and won twice as many rengs
>>67911827
>3/5ths of a Kobr
>>67911971
>3/5ths
you can't use that number around black people anymore america
>>67911971
yeah, but as far as we know Lebron never raped a white girl
>>67911827
>>67911962
Jordan had a better cast around him and a way better coach. LeBron has basically been doing everything on his own minus literally one play by RAY allen
>>67911911
you're a dumb cunt, we'll see another lebron in 10 years, we will never see another jordan
>>67912007
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH FAGGOT
JORDAN WON 6, LOST 0
LELBRON WON 2, LOST 4
KILL YOURSELF
>>67912007
shut up fag
>>67912007
Excuses are tools of incompetence that build monuments to nothing, and those who specialize in them are seldom good at anything else.
>>67912007
>dwyane wade
>chris bosh
>implying jordan would have lost to that mavericks team
you can't blame lebron for the cleveland losses but he had plenty of help in miami
>>67912039
>loving the taste of Jordan's dick this much
Gas yourself
>>67912007
Oh yeah, just look at that stacked roster
>>67912007
Also, look at the teams Jordan beat for those rings. They were loaded teams that made it out of a really solid West.
>>67911824
Fedora tip: the comment
>>67912039
Hey retard, that's just out of his appearances in the finals. You do know that jordan had years where he didn't even make it right?
He needs to go to a third and maybe fourth team and win a ring. Then he is goat. He literally only plays with teams that consist of half of the Olympic team starting line up
>>67912027
Lebron would wreck Jordan like he murdered Jason Terry
>>67912111
> team of literal who's
> b-but Jordan's teams were loaded
Meme destroyed
>>67912370
pippen isn't really a literally who, but otherwise yeah
>>67912039
So more rings=better right?
Not actual individual player awards and achievements right
>>67912387
Pippen only thrived with Jordan by his side
I agree, I already consider him the 2nd best ever behind Jordan but if he wins a title in Cleveland that automatically makes him uncontested GOAT. The Cleveland curse is a real thing, anyone who can break it is a literal god. Winning a championship for Cleveland counts as much as winning 10 championships.
>>67911812
He'd be 3-5
He's gotta do better than that. If he would transfer to the west and make it to the chip at least 3 times, then I might respect him
>>67912387
In 90-91 he wasn't really the Scottie Pippen we know now though. Wasn't even an All-Star.
>>67912484
3-4*
Not quite 5 yet
>>67912480
> 2nd best ever
This is an 18+ board
>>67912480
>2nd best ever
>>67912484
That depends on what team he goes to. If he goes to OKC or GSW or the Spurs the nigga is going to win the damn title every year. Even with the clips they would be fucking ferocious with him
But ya if its something like Houston, Utah or Portland and he dominates I'd legit be stunned
>>67912447
That's just wrong, and you know it.
>>67912480
He might be the 2nd best small forward ever.
If he does win a ring in Cleveland then people could legit argue for LeBron being the 2nd best ever, but he'll have to do something never seen before to overtake Jordan.
>>67912535
true, the teams jordan carried to the finals against the pistons didn't win because they were able to focus on him alone and bully him physically
they wouldn't have won in today's NBA
>>67912565
>>67912611
>>67912694
1. Jordan
2. LeBron
3. Shaw
4. Duncan
5. Hakeem
If you would seriously take anyone other than Jordan over LeBron to have on your team in their prime you have never watched a basketball game.
>>67912962
Kareem
Oscar
Wilt
Larry
Kobe
Hakeem
And I'm not even trying...
>>67913037
>Kobe
>>67911911
>skillset
>can't shoot
>can only charge people for easy and 1s
his only remarkable skill is passing and being large
>>67912962
I remember being 16
>>67911827
1 ring in Cleveland with Ty Lue = 10 with Phil Jackson in the secind city
What happens when LeBron's athleticism drops?
MJ changed his game, becoming a better shooter. Lebron has become a worse shoooter over the last few years.
>>67911911
leflop pls
>>67913253
he can play pg
>2-4
>2
>-
>4
>TWO
>AND
>FOUR
>>67913167
implying Ty Lue is doing jackshit except looking smart on televison
> all these /rare flags/
>>67912552
My bad. 3-4 is still elite but nowhere near MJ. In my opinion the next GOAT will have to go 6-0 in the chips. Doesn't have to be 3 peats for me but you gotta be undefeated
>>67912637
Agreed. I would forgive him for that cocky hour long special of where he was going to play if he took the jazz or nuggets to the chip. Until then he's the best player in a conference where the second best is borderline top 15 in the league, not very impressive
>>67914343
>losing earlier in the playoffs is better than losing in the finals
i will never understand this meme
Look, let's keep this simple:
LeBron is already the greatest playoff performer ever. But he is not the greatest player ever, not yet.
If you want to keep it in team context, then find another thread. If you want to keep it in individual player context, then no one has better game than LeBron in the playoffs:
Career playoff points:
1) MJ
2) Kareem
3) LeBron
Career playoff assists:
1) Magic
2) Stockton
3) LeBron
Career playoff rebounds (non centers):
1) Malone
2) Baylor
3) LeBron
And if you look at the leaders through age 31, LeBron is at the top of the points list, and behind only Magic in assists.
GOAT playoff performer in points, assists and rebounds combined. And he's only 31.
>>67911985
>>67914655
>And he's only 31
he's been in the league for 13 years, he doesn't have as much gas left in the tank as you think
>>67914655
LeGod haters btfo
I'd rank him top 5 player all time, greatest SF.
>>67911812
if he would've won it last year with that team of scrubs there'd be no question about it
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>>67912370
>not having the entire roster burnt into your brain because of Tecmo Basketball
plebs
Break the curse.
the cavs will lose as part of an govt agenda to quell the autism the likes of which spee suffers from. what else will they do if they can't daily 2-5 shitpost?
>>67911812
>B-But he lost in the finals before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx4z_pCA_6k
I don't think he's Jordan level but the finals loses are mostly due to the fact that he got dogshit teams into the finals. In his first run with the Cavs the East actually had competition and he basically ran through teams like the Pistons solo.
>>67914655
No shit he has high playoff numbers. He plays in a conference full of dilapidated talent and very few competitive teams and gets to cruise to the finals every year.
>>67914835
Honestly people like you are the dumbest.
You literally root for LeBron's production to drop off so you could be "right about him" all along. That he just uses athleticism and bullrushes to the basket, and soon that ability will be gone.
It's a pathetic stance that you will be humiliated holding when LeBron is playing crafty godlike oldman-ball when he's 40 and averaging a 20 point triple double for the rest of his career.
>>67914655
LeGod truly is the GOAT
Guaranteed replies, the thread
>>67911812
spoiler: Thunder takes it all
>>67916337
>audio constantly changing levels
what a lazy fuck of an uploader
>>67915065
>have to play with
>james jones
>mike miller
>delevedova
>shawn fucking marion
>timofev mozgoz
>>67911812
>I'm sorry
Why do people say this right before they know they are going to say something stupid
>>67918471
go on
>>67911812
MJ and KOBR did it with one team.
They were the constant that had to be built around.
That was too hard for Lelbron, so he formed triple tag teams and went wherever gave him the best winning situation.
Sorry, that's not what great players do. Have a nice day.
>>67918846
even though kobe won the majority of his titles as the 2nd best player on the team?
and how they were trash until they got a legitimate 2nd star in Pau whereas LeBron dragged a team by himself to the finals?
>>67913618
But PGs can actually shoot
>>67914655
If he doesn't surpass Jordan by next year then it also took him longer to achieve it. He's already played more playoff games than Jordan anyways.
>>67914607
Lol because there were actually good teams in the east when MJ played
>Reggie Miller
> Patrick Ewing
> Isaiah Thomas
3 championship caliber teams right there
LeBron had the late years of the Paul pierce/kg Celtics and one year of a tough rose bulls team. But he has walked in every year besides that
>>67913705
That's the point
>>67912480
You post would have made more sense had you just told us your favorite color crayon to shove up your nose. 18+ only please
>>67911812
But he wont
>ctrl f "da land"
>0 replies
weak lads
>>67919026
he can shoot when he tries.
>>67911812
not possible for him to ever be the GOAT at this point.
>not the best stats
>didn't win the most MVPs
>doesn't have a 50%+ winning percentage in championships
>not the most talented player of all time
>doesn't do anything exceptionally well except driving to the hoop
in order to be the best, you gotta be better than the best. and he's obviously not better than the best
>>67914655
U fookin wot m8
>Millennials
>>67919026
Curry is the "Best shooter ever" and he's not making the Finals.
Guess it doesn't matter so much, huh...
>>67911827
And half as many as KAJ the greatest ever
>>67912039
He only went to 6 mate Lebron has been to 7
>>67912004
>women getting raped
>bad
B2 reddit
>>67911911
One of the best overall players to ever play basketball.
>>67918846
kobe and mj got hooked up with elite coaching and players almost instantly
lebron literally had to build his own team after seven years of bringing literally who into cleveland
mj had pippen and jackson
kobe had shaq and jackson
lebron had zydrunas illgauskas and mike brown. kobe and mj played with household name hofers. lebron played with literally who
>>67912962
>Shaw
...
>>67913037
>kobe
>oscar
>>67912007
He had Pippen for all 6. And Rodman for 3. Besides that, Jordan was surrounded by mediocre players. Lebron isn't even currently playing the best ball on the Cavs. Irving has been their best player. So please stop acting like Lebron doesn't play with anyone.
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I don't know about that quit yet.
But can we agree that if he wins it this year The Cavs have a very big chance of repeating next year?
Can we...can we agree on that?
>Never lost a final
LeBron right?
He's already the 2nd greatest player of all-time
1. MJ
2. LeBron
3. Wilt
4. Russell
5. Magic
6. Bird
7. Duncan
8. Hakeem
9. Shaq
10. West
1.Jordan
2.Kareem
3.Lebron
4.Johnson
5.Wilt
6.Bird
7.Russel
8.Duncan
9.O'neal
10.Hakeem
He's already goat but this title will cement his legacy forever. There should be a giant gold statue built for him in Cleveland right after
smart people knew he was better than Jordan in 2009.
it's all been just confirmation since that time
lebron>messi
>>67929265
brady>lebron>messi
>>67929325
drake>lebron
>>67929475
Viper>Drake
vardy>brady>lebron>ronaldo>>>>>>>O-blacked
>>67929662
Leaf > all other athletes
>>67923503
> Tony Parker top 10
Blows my mind
>>67929588
Lou Reed>viper
>>67929862
Hitler > Lou Reed
>>67911812
The lose-iest finals MVP in NBA Finals history. Lebron James.
>>67914655
LeGod haters SHOOK AF
George Mikan is better than Lebrick
>>67932094
and sammy baugh is better than aaron rodgers right?
>>67932094
>2015-16 regular season .520 FG%
>2015-16 postseason .546 FG%
>Career .498 FG%
Holy shit you are so mad
I don't know why the East works against Lebron's legacy- Jordan played his whole career in the East. Even tried to ring chase on a stacked Washington team.
Not really. He's got the same record as Wilt
>Reminder Jordan got BTFO in 95 by Shaq's magics
>muh rusty Jordan,
Jordan averaged like 30 points a game in the playoffs when he was eliminated. He couldn't get shit done when Horance Grant left him, and only won after because they got Rodman.
>Pippen wasn't good without Jordan
Pippen won 55 games in 1993-1994 without Jordan and only Lost in 7 games to Ewing's Knicks who was the second best team in the league at the time.
Jordan huggers in this thread wasn't alive to watch basketball when he actually played.
>>67911812
Sorry, man, but I watched LeBron during Games 3 and 4. I used to love this guy, but his attitude the series was so childish. Can't respect him after that kind of conduct.
>>67932655
>Muh rusty Jordan
Pretty much this. Why do people omit this from their minds? I watched that series on expensive as fuck MegaTV and remember crying because Jordan was losing big time.
>>67911812
>2016
>there are still those who believe Lelbron is even remotely close to Jordan-tier
How many championships must Lelbron lose before he's eternally discredited from this discussion?
>>67932858
He's playing with house money in Cleveland because it's been accepted in sports culture as a cursed city MJ himself probably couldn't win in.
Legacy is safe, senpai.
>>67932858
b..b.b..but muh heat superteam championships
>>67932485
Because the East was deep as fuck back then.
Every one of LeBron's finals opponents were significantly better than any one of Jordan's 6 finals opponents.
The Pistons LeBron beat by himself were better than any challenge Jordan had since the Celtics.
These are facts.
>>67911827
>Implying 1 ring in Cleaveland doesn't equal 6 rings, itself
Lebron confirmed for 8 rings, truly the GOAT.
>>67933115
You can parrot statistics without context, or you can journey into the meat of history and discover truths such as
>the 2014 Spurs > 95 Bulls
Eye opening, isn't it?
>>67933115
I actually spit out my tea. Thanks for that.
But let's see now:
2007 Spurs (58-24) [Ginobili, Parker, Duncan]
2011 Mavericks (57-25) [Chandler, Nowitzki, Kidd]
2012 Thunder (47-19) [Harden, Durant, Westbrook]
2013 Spurs (58-24) [Leonard, Duncan, Parker]
2014 Spurs (62-20) [Leonard, Duncan, Parker]
2015 Warriors (67-15) [IGGY, Curry, Thompson]
Against
1991 Lakers (58-24) [Johnson, Worthy, Cooper]
1992 Trail Blazers (57-25) [Pretty much Drexler, really]
1993 Suns (62-20) [Barkley, Johnson, Majerle]
1996 Sonics (64-18) [Payton, Kemp, Schrempf]
1997 Jazz (64-18) [Malone, Stockton, Hornacek]
1998 Jazz (62-20) [Malone, Stockton, Hornacek]
Sort it out for yourself.
