So which is the bigger choke? 18-1 or what Golden State is doing right now?
18-1
This makes sense. Kerr is a moron, he should have pulled his starters when they clinched the conference.
The players are worn in the post season now. As we see with Curry and Gree
golden state were proven to be fallible 9 times, the patriots were undefeated.
Going 18-0 just to lose the Owl on randomness is painful but man, setting a regular season record for games won and being defending champs only to go down like this in the semis. Brutal
>lose because of a one in a million meme helmet catch in the super bowl
vs
>get assfucked by westgod and blown out by 20 every game and not even make the finals
1. 18-1
2. 2004 ALCS
3. Golden State
18-1
They would have been the greatest team of all time. All they had to do was beat the worst team to ever make a Super Bowl. They had Randy Moss.
And they couldn't do it.
>>67849383
1. 18-1
2. 73-9
3. 7-1
>>67849467
7-1 was a blowout, not a choke.
>>67849319
reminder that the helmet catch was not a touchdown. the patriots had the opportunity to prevent a touchdown and they left plaxico burress wide open in the endzone.
Golden State
The Patriots lost on the flukiest play of all time, the Warriors are getting comprehensively outplayed by a team that won 20 fewer games.
>>67849538
Pats got beat by a great D line led by a Hall of Famer
>>67849159
18-1
Easy.
To be comparable they would have to be swept in the second round of the playoffs.
>>67849710
The Patriots had the best offense of all time at the moment. Had Randy Moss, with 23 TDs in a fucking season. Brady set the record for most TD passes, and laughed at the idea to be held to less than 20. New England scored 14.
>>67849159
>00s Patriots 18-1
>90s Buffalo Bills 0-4 straight
>Late 80s Broncos 0-2 straight
I'm beginning to realize that NFC East are dicks in the Superbowl.
18-1 no doubt
Warriors are fucking up but we all knew they were a very vulnerable team and saw this coming for awhile.
Patriots however were a based team and literally just choked when it mattered most.
>>67849159
>>67849246
>>67849538
he only way Golden state would ever trump 18-1 is if they got swept in the first round
whats going on now doesnt even come close
>>67850675
Why? The equivalent of 18-1 would be losing Game 7 of the Finals on a half court buzzer beater.
18-1
>lost 1 fluky game with all the pressure in the world
73-9
>broke the league record
>had the unanimous memevp
>never lost back to backs all season
>will lose a 7 game series so luck doesn't count
73-9 is worse, 18-1 at least made it to the owl
>>67850709
To the raptors
>>67850709
The equivalent of 18-1 would be going undefeated in the regular season, then getting beat by a #8 seed after bringing the series to a 3-0 lead.
>>67849467
what is 7-1?
>>67850773
18-1 in basketball would be the Warriors breaking the record, sweeping their way to the finals, meeting the East's 8 seed, going up 3-0 then getting reverse swept
>>67850773
Are you literally retarded? When did the Patriots have a lead that can be compared to being 3-0 up in the Finals?
>>67850824
Germany best Brazil 7-1 in the last World Cup
>>67850773
>18-1 tied league record, 73-9 surpassed it
>point memeoirs
>18-1 had the MVP, 73-9 has the memevp but cuckry is hyped as the best player since MJ
>point memeoirs
>18-1 actually made it to the owl, 73-9 won't
>point memeoirs
It's clear the memeoirs are worse and will be the laughing stock of the NBA if they don't even make it to the finals
>>67850760
Giant's were like 5th seed of 6, GSW would have to lose game 7 to like the Hornets or Pacers or something.
>>67850824
I think he means Brazil vs Germany.
>>67849434
>And they couldn't do it.
Twice. So they can't even say "i-it was just a fluke!!!"
>>67851007
But 2011 was a completely different Patriots team and by far their worst Brady/Belichick team to make the Super Bowl. It's in no way comparable to 2007
>>67849159
>botching a 0-3 series lead in the finals
to me it feels like the 04 Yankees get lost in the pantheon of choking
>largest payroll in baseball history
>up 3-0 on your bitter rival who hasn't won a World Series since the Titanic sank
>blow lead in 9th inning of game 4 with Hall of Famer closer
>blow lead in 8th inning of game 5
>lose first 0-3 series lead in MLB postseason history
>>67851512
nobody really cares about baseball though
>>67851651
this, such ancient fucking history against two teams only faggots like in a sport only appreciated by boring people
It is top 10, maybe 5 biggest choke though
>>67851651
fewer people watch basketball.
>>67850824
BRA71L
>>67851855
Sorry buddy...Apehoop sucks, but boreball is way shittier.
>>67851956
point still stands, more people care about baseball.
Golden state is way worse than 18-1
>>67852001
>>67851855
people go to baseball games for the atmosphere but with 162 games in a season nobody follows it like basketball
warriors right now, they're getting raped game after game and they're not even going to make it to the finals
pats only lost a single game, even if it was the biggest one and in such spectacular fashion
the pats loss is more of a spectacle because of the ridiculous play that lead up to it but the warriors performance is a bigger choke seeing as they wont even make it to the finals and are being massively outplayed
>>67852044
baseball gets higher ratings and generates more revenue, so more people care about it. nobody wants to watch a bunch of niggers jumping around and hanging off the rim like apes in a tree.
73-9. Easily.
One-off playoff games are much more susceptible to flukes. GS lost 9 out of 82, and their playoff record could end up being 9-6.
>>67851512
Because it's the Yankees they still win the most out of any team.
>>67852126
>nobody wants to watch a bunch of niggers jumping around and hanging off the rim like apes in a tree.
are you kidding? of course they do
nobody wants to watch a bunch of overweight men stand in a field for 4 hours
>>67852276
>nobody wants to watch a bunch of overweight men stand in a field for 4 hours
But baseball gets higher TV ratings and has a higher attendance
73-9 because the Patriots barely lost by a freak catch, and you can't really say the Giants were the better team. GSW is playing in a 7 game series and through 4 games is showing they don't even belong on the same court as the other team and it's not even the finals yet
>>67849159
You dumb nigger, the only way Golden State would be comparable to 18-1
If Golden State made it the finals, were up against the 8th Seed from the Eastern Conference, went up 3 games, and then dropped the last 4, then you have a comparison to 18-1
Anyone who says Golden State is a worse choke than 18-1 is a butthurt Pats fag trying to downplay that what happened to them was the greatest upset in sports history in at least the past 40 years.
Also it wasn't randomness that made the Patriots lose, they got outplayed by a defense that knew the weaknesses of the system, and Brady couldn't cope with being pressured and folded like a house of cards a majority of the game. He got exposed big time.
>>67852276
you watch the batter and the pitcher when you watch a baseball game. unless you're a poorfag and your seats are in the outfield.
Even if teams in NFL playoffs are more susceptible to fluke losses because it's one-and-done, the optics of the Patriots going 18-1 are I think worse than what's going on with the Warriors. That said, the Warriors getting the best season ever and flaming out even before they reach the finals is really darn bad.
>>67852406
>went up 3 games, and then dropped the last 4
When exactly did the Patriots have a lead that can be compared to being up 3-0 in the Finals?
Anyone ITT saying 18-1 is your typical FUCK TOM BRADY hater
It's clearly the Warriors. Football is much different because it's one-and-done. Any fluke can happen to make a team lose, and that's what happened in 1801. A crazy helmet catch, and one loss meant no title
In a 7 game series, the better team is supposed to win because there are more games to play.
>>67852520
They beat the Giants in the regular season, and the Giants were statistically the worst team to make it to the Superb Owl in all of NFL history.
Also considering it was the Giants that had to come from behind at the end of the game, down 3 games and coming back to win the series is an apt comparison.
>>67852414
ok then nobody wants to watch a bunch of overweight men swing sticks for 4 hours.
>>67852590
so the patriots massive point differential throughout the season was a fluke because they played one game at a time? just face it, the patriots are the GOAT choke artists.
>>67852590
>mum fluke play
What about the fact the Patriots offense got outplayed for a vast majority of the time they had the ball? The Giants won the game on guile, but the defense was what really made the difference.
EIGHTEEN AND ONE
>>67852608
You did not answer the question.
When exactly did the Patriots have a lead that can be compared to being up 3-0 in the Finals?
>>67851821
Basketball is completely missable. You can ignore everything until the last two minutes and miss nothing
>>67849434
>worst team to ever make a Super Bowl
Not even a Patsfag but when will this meme stop? They beat a 13-3 Dallas team and Brett Favre both on the road to get there and didn't have either the worst offense or defense all-time. The only shit thing about them was their record, but in the NFL any team can catch fire during the playoffs
>>67850824
lurk more
>>67852671
baseball you can look up the final score and miss nothing
>>67852634
I'm not even a Patriots fan. I'm just saying that it is much worse to have the greatest record of all time and lose in a long playoff series where the better team is supposed to win, than a one time game
>>67852663
That still agrees with my "one and done vs. a long playoff series" you fucking retard
>>67852713
You miss home runs, crazy defensive plays, possible no hitters/perfect games
All shitty 3s are the same so are shitty dunks
Ape hoop is awful
>>67852665
I did answer it, you just refuse to accept it.
>>67852750
Your post did not reference a single exact moment from the Super Bowl, it was just some ramblings about the Giants being bad.
>>67852801
Moving the goalposts now britbong.
>>67852749
>home runs
too rare
>crazy defensive plays
crazy is a very strong word
>no hitters
super rare
when those things happen i'll watch the highlights
>all shitty 3's/dunks are the same
that's a two way street and can also be said for HR's
ape hoop is the peak of human athleticism. baseball can be played by bartolo colon with a tobacco buzz
>>67852715
>Perfect season
>Choking at the end verses an all around inferior team
>Best Record in history
>Knocked out by team that you needed massive refball to barely scratch out wins against in the regular season.
>Get beaten by them because you played your starters for the duration of the season after locking up the top seed while the other team rested up.
>>67852812
When did the Patriots have a lead that can be compared to being up 3-0 in the Finals.
I'm literally asking the same question over and over that you refuse to answer because you know you just spewed a bunch of bullshit and got called on it. Where are the moving goalposts?
Apehoop and Divegrass will never have a night like this. No matter how hard they try. It also shows why every inning is a new game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrNoK1V7V4Q
>>67852874
exactly, the warriors is worse. just what i was saying
>>67852406
>greatest upset in sports history in at least the past 40 years
>what is Leicester City winning the EPL
>>67852932
>what is Leicester City winning the EPL
irrelevant
>>67849159
18-1. This is a pats fag in disguise trying to make it seem worse than it is.
>go undefeated all the way to the superbowl, outright dominating some teams
>other team just lucks their way through the playoffs
>literally nobody gives them a chance to win
>Undefeated QB laughs at the idea of them being held to 17 points
>It happens
>>67852867
>Human athleticism
You mean monkies jumping and climbing? Football is peak athleticism.
HRs happen every day
You miss NOTHING skipping an NBA game. Too much scoring. Meme 3s after meme 3s add nothing
Oh but some monkey did a big dunk! Muh sports center top ten! Get Stephen A to yell about it!
>>67852932
>EPL
>sports
choose one
>>67852406
assblasted gsw fan detected
>>67852913
I still think the Yankees lost that game to spite the Red Sox
>>67852993
>monkeys
yeah your opinion really means a lot
>>67852932
Irrelevant since you don't have a playoff system like any real sports system would have.
>>67852898
And you're refusing to accept the answer by moving the goalposts thinking context of the game itself is all that matters britbong. It's the facts britbong, 18-1 > GS getting knocked out of the WCF
Tyson-Douglas is the GOAT choke job and nothing else comes close.
>>67852993
>Football is peak athleticism.
Actually i love football over basketball so i agree.
But to imply basketball is boring while baseball is tense and exciting is mind-blowing.
>>67852981
73-9. This is just a bay area fag trying to make it seem worse than it is
>embarrass the two biggest challengers to the NBA title that year in the regular season
>other basically was a two man offense
>literally nobody gives them a chance to beat golden state 4 out of 7 times
>unhinged PF laughs at the idea of getting locked down by steven adams
>it happens
>>67853069
How is asking the same question over and over again moving the goalposts?
When did the Patriots have a lead that can be compared to being 3-0 up in the Finals, a lead that has literally never been overturned by any team ever? Give me the time of the game and the score at that time.
>>67852993
>Meme 3s after meme 3s
Why is it that everything people don't like is a 'meme' now? /sp/ wasn't like this in 2012
>>67853133
Baseball is tense and exciting. It has nail biting anticipation. See game 6 of the 2011 world series with
>One Strike away
>Twice
You also don't have fucking time outs after time outs
You also can't run out the clock
There is no flopping
Among many other things
>>67852993
>Football is peak athleticism.
>>67849159
18-1 by a mile. Any retard knows the Ws have no defense.
>>67853267
>Baseball is tense and exciting. It has nail biting anticipation.
You're fucking joking.
>>67853267
>You also don't have fucking time outs after time outs
you have long stretches of time where nothing happens with the occasional hit
>You also can't run out the clock
there is no clock. these bore-fests could run all night if teams refuse to score.
>There is no flopping
any time one of these fat fucks runs to base there is quite a lot of flopping
>>67853317
>Muh adhd sports
>Can't refute anything and just says no you're wrong
>>67853196
Have to look at the big picture brit bong, that's why you lost your empire to us. Not just the game itself, but who made up the team.
But keep denying the fact that 18-1 is the greatest choke in modern sports history. Or you can talk about how none of the Patriots super bowl 'wins' aren't tainted by them cheating. And being retarded enough to get caught.
>>67853410
>When did the Patriots have a lead that can be compared to being 3-0 up in the Finals?
>HURR THE GIANTS SUCKED
Alright m8
>>67853390
There's a reason why the people on top have been looking for ways to speed up the game.
I'm pretty sure baseball will fade into irrelevance once all the baby boomers die off.
>>67853336
retarded nigger spotted
>>67849159
Golden State. Patriots lost a one-off game when a guy made a freak catch with his helmet. GSW are losing a series.
>>67849870
offensive line
>>67853541
>n-nigger...
>>67853612
says the guy who watches grass fairies with no playoffs
>>67853486
baby boomers are dying off and baseball is still more popular than basketball. when i go to baseball games i see lots of young people.
>>67852993
>if the game has high scoring it's shit!
>3 point shots require barely any skill at all
>Hurr racism!
Just stop
>>67849159
easily the patriots, the giants didn't even belong in the owl and brady talked nonstop shit that season
>>67853803
Baby boomers are in their 60s and 70s. Most are still alive.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/baseballs-trouble-with-the-youth-curve--and-what-that-means-for-the-game/2015/04/05/2da36dca-d7e8-11e4-8103-fa84725dbf9d_story.html
>According to Nielsen ratings, 50 percent of baseball viewers are 55 or older, up from 41 percent 10 years ago. ESPN, which airs baseball, football and basketball games, says its data show the average age of baseball viewers rising well above that of other sports: 53 for baseball, 47 for the NFL (also rising fast) and 37 for the NBA, which has kept its audience age flat
Plus basketball is getting more popular overseas. I wouldn't be surprised to see it overtake baseball within the next 10 to 15 years. That is, unless baseball does something to attract the youth.
>>67853224
Yes it was you retard.
>>67853979
people have literally been saying baseball is going to die for the past 60 years
fuck off faggot
>>67853979
that's a bunch of horseshit, the NFL's average viewing age is 47 but that sport isn't going anywhere fast.
>>67854013
>60 years
Right around the age of a baby boomer. Once they die off, it's over.
>>67853993
>https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/search/text/%22meme%20player%22/order/asc/
>https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/search/text/%22meme%20team%22/order/asc/
Thanks for trying to correct my own memory, but this shit didn't start picking up until the beginning of '14.
>>67853267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlORWhsJjNM
>>67853390
baseball is mostly walking and strike outs
the football equivalent would be:
>football is mostly penalties and broken plays
ahahahaahha, baseball sucks
>>67852679
This
>any given Sunday
18-1 pretty much birthed /sp/ so I 'm going with that.
The Thunder are objectively a better team than Memiors right now. It has nothing to do with choking. The Patriots on the other hand actually choked.
I'll tell you what's not a choke
>>67849159
18-1
NBA doesn't even feel authentic and the worst they could have done was sweep two rounds and get swept by Toronto who lets say struggled the two rounds
That would be near the 18-1 caliber
>>67850751
18-1 happened in The Superbowl. With all the chips on the table the pats lost the game that would have cemented them as the undisputed GOAT of the NFL.
These aren't even close. The warriors would have to melt down in the finals after sweeping every team on the way.
I hope they lose tonight.
Lose at home.
No hope.
Humble them.
>>67853164
>Play a sport where 1 player can literally drag any team in the league to the finals
>Chef curry still can't do it
73-9 is a joke but at least they're getting blown out by 2 super stars
Tom Brody got blown out by a guy with actual diagnosable autism
>>67849159
Warriors would be on par with and perhaps even exceed 18-1 if they did 73-9, swept every series leading to the Finals AND blew a 3-0 series lead in the Finals
>73-9
does make a good second banana for 18-1 though
