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Manchester United youngster Marcus Rashford named in Roy Hodgson's provisional 26-man England squad for Euro 2016.

Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere and Newcastle's Andros Townsend also included.

Only 23 will go to France
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>wilshere
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>>67627973
>Newcastle's Andros Townsend
>get relegated
>play for your country

Just as planned.
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>RASHFORD
Are you fucking serious
He hasn't even played an U21 game yet. Kane played in the U21 euros despite scoring 21 goals last season. Is Rashford too good to join up with the U21s this summer? Fuck's sake FA - this won't benefit anyone. Why not Defoe?

Having said all that, he probably won't make the final 23
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>only three CBs
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>>67627997
Townsend is one of those enigmas who is shit for his club but somehow really good for the national team
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>no walcott
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>Rashford

KEEP SUCKING THAT UNITED DICK WOY YOU FUCKING CUNT

IGNORE DEFOE OR CARROLL, PLACATE THE UNITED FANS

>Townsend

Fuck off
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>Woy's fallen for the Stones meme
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>>67628005
And to be fair he has been good for Shitcastle
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>>67627973
>liverpoo players in squad

why?
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>>67628005
He was Newcastle's best player since signing for them tbf
Never good enough to start for spurs though
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Well he can get rid of Townsend for a start
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>rashford ahead of Walcott
>the guy who was taken to WC2006 to gain big tournament experience
>replaced by guy for tournament experience
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Best team since the golden generation gonna get two little saint George's flags to put on my golf
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>>67628027
It's a never-ending cycle of "needs tournament experience" and "he's had his chance for england, time to drop him". We'll never win an international trophy in my lifetime I fear
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Well he has got to cut 3 players, I'd imagine Delph and Rashford are going to be 2 of them. Also:

>No Andy Carroll

kys woy
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>>67627973
>no dann (also >picking 3 CBs)
>no simpson
>no antonio
>no defoe

also honorable mentions for including
>stones, rooney, delph, sterling
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Nice. Roy seems to be picking based on form, seems like we might do w-

>Rooney
>Stones

W
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>Townsend
Based Woy.
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>>67628027
In 2006, it looked like he had the potential to become a class player. Instead he's literally no better now than he was 10 years ago.
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>townsend
>Delph
>wheelchair
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>No Mahrez
>No Huth

What the fuck is this?
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>>67627983
He's the smartest midfielder England have. If he is fit he should go. He's proven his worth for England.

>>67628005
He was good in two games a few years ago.

>>67628041
Walcott shouldn't go. So with that in mind, you may as well add a player to the provisional squad to spend a few days with the senior setup

Sound logic from Hodgson. No one thinks Rashford would actually be in the final 23 barring injuries.
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>Wilshere
>Townsend

OK WOY
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Literally 11 out of 26 players are from top 4 teams, with one of them hardly playing this season (wilshere). Embarrassing
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Isn't Henderson injured?
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>>67628071
It's almost as if top teams have more good players than worse teams
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>>67628078

he just played yesterday la
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>roy hasn't picked my favourite meme player
>hurr durr hodgson gtfo we would have won the euros if he had
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>>67628085
I think he's saying there should be more
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ITS LITERALLY COMING HOME
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>more Liverpoop player than any other teams
>no West Ham players

Why is this allowed
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>>67627973
lets be seriously for a minute.
which 3 will get dropped?
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>Lallana
>Henderson
>Milner
>DELPH
>no Noble

What did Delph even do this year? Did he play one game?
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It's coming home, it's coming home...

Tell the whole world it's coming home..
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>>67628133
Because we aren't retards.
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>Rooney
Also chelshit and arsenlol both only have 1(one) player on the list just like shitty football league team Newcastle
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>this is the best the England manager thinks this country has to offer

Out in the group stages again, lads.
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Surprisingly reasonable considering 3 players will be dropped, the base of the team I think most people would have picked is there and there's some fluff around the edges to pad out the squad for the friendlies when all the players won't be there

Rashford makes some sense if you assume there is a close to 0% chance he'll actually go (although I think he's got pretty lucky, I haven't watched many Man United games this season but it looks like his shot numbers are poor - definitely got lucky with conversion although Van Gaal has neutered everyone's shots there so who knows)

Would assume Rashford, Delph/Drinkwater and Townsend/Lallana are to be dropped

Also I have to assume that people who don't want Wilshere in the squad must have some sort of grudge or bias - can't see a neutral not wanting him starting every game he's fit (so maybe 1/3 of a game if we're lucky)
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>>67628149
>I don't rate Milner

*tip*
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>wilshere
>townsend
>delph
>rashford
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>>67628148
Townsend
Rashford
Wilshere due to lack of fitness, otherwise delph

I don't see him dropping any defenders at this point - already looking thin back there
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>>67628168
Was he seriously better than Noble this year?
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>>67628015
he had to pick united players because london would riot if Man U didnt get represented
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Still coming home, woy is a mastermind
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I could last longer than Wilshit in a match right now. Fucking glass legged nonce.
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world class players in squad:

wilshere
rooney

>wtf woy why did you pick rppney and wheelchair?

classic englel
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>>67628179
They play different positions. He'll probably play Milner as a right of left attacking mid, Noble is more of a classic CM.

Milner has versatility to play anywhere across midfield, can fill in an at fullback, play defensively, and has a great cross. Milner's been in great form in 2016, picking up 13 assists
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>>67627973
heaton over ben foster is most interesting to me
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Noble really is not good enough and I say that having watched quite a lot of West Ham this season, wouldn't get any game time as he's not flexible enough a player and would necessitate shaping the midfield in a way England haven't all through qualifying just to suit him

I'd give Antonio a pick because he's a good player and character and can play multiple positions but I'm not outraged he's not going - can't see that many situations where he'd end up getting brought on the pitch
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>>67628196
jog on jap
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>>67628167
Wilshere has started once this season and played 141 minutes of football, he should be nowhere near the squad.
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>>67628205
*right or left
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>>67628169
>He has to take one of these four
I think I saw Delph come off the bench one time a few months ago. He's literally on the list on the basis of his contract.

Woy is more fit than Wheelchair and the other two are just embarrassing.
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>>67628196
Please tell me how they have been world class since the 2014 world cup
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Every squad needs a milner

henderson on the other hand....
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>>67628196
>Wilshere
>Rooney
>World class

Fuck off jap
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>>67628215
Surprised Welbeck isn't on the list just in case he's miraculously fit in time for the final.
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>>67628215
What is your cutoff minimum minutes played to get in the squad? Seems arbitrary to have one at all if the player is fit and capable of playing their best
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>tom heaton

BASED

i bet hes over the moon
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>>67628238
Henderson has been shit for Liverpool when fit all season, his heel still isn't fixed so he can't even press as well as he used to. No idea why he's in the team
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who would you have in ahead of wilshere? i agree it's embarrassing that a guy who's played fuck all is in the squad but there's not really anyone else...mark noble possibly?

it's no worse than barkley, delph, sterling, townsend, rashford or stones being picked t b h
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>>67627973
>Wilshere
>No Defoe
>3 (three) center backs
Just fuck off Roy
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Wilshere is England's best player, if he's fit then you take him. Doesn't matter if he's only played 3 games.
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>>67628272
>arsenal fans believe this
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>>67628047
dier is the 4th center back
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Used to have

>Terry
>Ferdinand
>King
>Carragher
>Campbell

Now we have
>Cahill
>Smalling
>Stones
>Literally nobody else

Where did it go wrong lads, why are our CBs so shit now
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>Alli born in 1996
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>>67628265
Suggesting Noble as an alternative to Wilshere is just ridiculous, they would have completely different jobs and Noble's one wouldn't fit into how England has played all through qualifying
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>>67628165
In a group of 4, the top two qualify and the third place go into a best qualifier scenario.

You're posting shit.
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>>67628284
Stones sums up exactly where we went wrong

>le ball playing centre back meme

Teaching CBs to play out from the back rather than defending and getting rid of danger
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I'd be more concerned about having one of the worst defences at the tournament than arguing about who should be in the midfield.
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>>67628299
Yet the pundits who praise Stones are the same ones who say "this team is lacking no nonsense defenders"
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>>67628215
What Wilshere has done at club level is fucking irrelevant. He's fit and he regularly performs for England despite how he does for Arsenal.

If he plays in these friendlies next next and shows he's capable of delivering, he'll go.

Try and put aside your bias and hatred and apply reasoned thought, you edgy little shit.
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Why have West Ham been completely ignored by England?Noble, Cresswell, Caroll and especially Antonio all deserve to at least be in the provisional squad.Townsend is in their ffs.
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>>67628193
But you're a fat paki.
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>>67628252
>Wilshere
>fit and capable of playing his best
Come on
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>>67628284

I forgot about Ledley King.

;_;
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>>67628321
FA agreed to give them a free stadium instead, and forgot that mascherano and tevez ever existed
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>>67628295

wilshere for england has sat deep and tried to dictate play, noble can do this to some extent, what's wrong with how he plays and how wouldn't it fit with england?
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>>67628232
Wilshere was by far our best player in the qualifiers.
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Noble, most overrated player of 2015/2016.

West Ham fans just pushing it because WE WON THE WORLD CUP bullshit
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Noble is pony, this is like a few years ago when people wanted Kevin Nolan in the squad.
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>>67628246
I bet this was really funny in your head.
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I actually like the multiple midfield options considering how England have played under Hodgson

Too many people on here seem to be treating this like FIFA and just putting players wherever or not thinking about the formation. For example Delph will 100% go because he fits into the diamond that Hodgson plays better than, say Lallana or Noble.
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>>67628354
t. Patel, #1 Arsenal fan
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Taking a sicknote with 10 starts in 2 years based on a handful of games he's had as a teenager is a waste of a place.
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>>67628356

delph is wank, a liability
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>>67628356
I agree that the selection of players are very versatile, but he isn't the best manager to take advantage of that
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>>67628321
>Why have West Ham been completely ignored by England
Because it's fucking irrelevant how they've done in the league.

>carroll
A dumb as shit, clumsy liability who commits more fouls than anything else.
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>>67628354
I'm sick of the favourites getting automatically picked every time without having to work their way into the squad. He'll still say it's picked on form even though it's clearly not.
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>>67628380
Fantastic post, really smart stuff
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Lallana
Henderson
Wilshere
Rashford
Townsend

It's going to be a short stop in France for us lads
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>>67628395
What are you talking about, you thick paki? Welbeck is fucking out for months.
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>>67628333
rip
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>>67628361
York City.
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There is no one better than Carroll at heading the ball and we all or should all know that England will have to resort to spamming crosses. Without Carroll it is not effective.
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>>67628413
It was a joke you stupid cunt.
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>>67628395
Every national team has their favourites. Imagine how many barca/madrid/bayern fringe players have gotten undeserved call ups over the years
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>>67628428
>le ebin hoofball meme

If all Carroll has on his locker is his heading ability then you're really clutching at straws
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>>67628428
>you now remember all the headlines in euro2012 before the Sweden game when Roy publicly stated his plan to hit long balls to Carroll, and then the commentator exclaiming "the plan worked!" When he scored
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>>67628428
>Without Carroll it is not effective.
Nah, with Vardy and pacey black man #43 running onto it we'll be elite hoofballers.
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>>67628451
Losing 1-0 with 20 to go, i'd rather mix it up with Carroll than bring on Rashford
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Albrighton won the Premier League playing every game. He has been shut out of the England set up by players who make the odd substitute appearance for a team that just finished fourth.

I fucking despise Hodgson.
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>>67628461
Maybe you would, but you're clearly a fucking spastic who thinks relic football is actually effective in modern football.
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>>67627998
>Kane played in the U21 euros despite scoring 21 goals last season.
tbf there was no major competition for England main team last year, just friendlies. Had their been a WC/Euros/other last year Kane would've been in that squad rather than the U21s but since their wasn't why wouldn't you take Kane knowing he still qualified for U21s?
But yeah Rashford is a stupid choice considering you know he won't be picked for the final squad, just a waste of a spot. Not a huge fan of Walcott but would've made far more sense to take him at least for the 26 man squad.
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>>67628428
>>67628461
desu this a good point, and why he should be in there. Big Andy super sub.
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>tfw no Albrighton
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>>67628458
That's fine if it works and we get a lead or at least don't concede.

>>67628454
It was a good plan. No room for fashion in elite football.
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>>67628475
>he's played in a team that won the league therefore he deserves to play whether he fits or not

SGE logic
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>>67628266
Retarded roy, gonna sucks big dick
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>>67628476
Yeah Roy Hodgson is truly on the precipice of modern football, bringing forward new ideas into a new footballing age.

Fuck off, if you can't see how helpful a plan B off the bench to cause problems would be over some meme teenager who hasn't even played for the U21s, then you're deluded
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>>67627973
>rashford
literally who?

Bet if he played for any other team he wouldn't have made the list
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>>67628015
>CARROLL
Please. Carroll is dogshit 99% of the time. People love to say "b-but he offers something different" but if we're 1-0 down in the quarter final with 10 mins to go the last fucking thing I want to see is Andy Carroll warming up and England just lumping the ball forward hoping he can use his height to bundle it into the net.
But yeah there are better options than Rashford for sure.
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>>67628497
>my plan b is infallible just because

Fucking neck yourself. Carroll is a shit player and a shit plan A, plan B all the way to plan fucking Z.
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>>67627973
>barkley
>delph
>stones
>milner

english people are literally retarded, enjoy crashing out again
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>henderson
>STONES
>wheelchair
>Rashford
>townsend
>delph
Well this will be third in the group.
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>>67628477
Well the u21s still have a tournament this summer, plus qualifiers later. I say it'd be more useful for him to get international experience there as an 18 year old with only a few hundred professional minutes under his belt
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>>67628476
Sorry pep, but there's more than one way to put the ball in the net. Against a sunken defense while chasing the lead, having that kind of player can be very useful.
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>>67628502
He's the next Martial you thick twat. Better than any other meme scorer in any other team.

Excluding Vardy and Kane.
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>Defoe has 15 in 28 for a relegation team
>Carroll has 9 in 13 starts
>Rashford has 4 in 10 starts

HURR RASHFORD PLAYS FOR UNITED, LET'S BRING HIM.
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>>67628531
Watch when Vardy + Rashford win us the trophy. You're gonna be sucking my BIG BLACK DINGUS for a loooooong time
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>>67628512
I never said he was infallable you mong, I said at least he can offer something different if the other team is bus parking and we need somebody to cause them problems.

Bringing on pacey black teenager #23452 who's never played an international game before is far less likely to work.

If Rashford didn't play for United he'd be nowhere near that team and you know it. Hasn't even played for the U21s
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>>67628531
>yfw Defoe will be a top 10 all time premier league scorer
Scary, but fair play to him. Thought his career was over when he went to Canada
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>>67628524
>the next Martial
>martial
literally who?
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>>67628521
It rarely is useful though.
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fabien delph
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>>67628157

You need West Ham players if you want England to win anything lad.
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>>67628542
Fuck off, gypo. Not my fault you don't know players.

Why are you here? This is an English thread discussing an ENGLISH team.
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Will Hodgson have the balls to bench Rooney? I'd say that's the main thing standing between England and a decent tournament run at the moment.
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>>67628531
>Carroll has 9 in 13 starts
9 in 29 appearances
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>>67628531
didn't they say rashford wasn't going and would only train with the england team?
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>>67627973
>Stones
>Barkley
>Delph
>Townsend
>Wheelchair
>Rashford
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>>67628540
>is far less likely to work.
Based on what exactly? Your own biased warped logic?
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>>67628554
Fuck off you paki bastard, I'm more english than you ever will be just on sake of actually being european instead of my senpai coming in from bumfuckinstan and banwagoning manure, none of the shitters in that team deserve to be in the england team.
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>>67628540
>If Rashford didn't play for United he'd be nowhere near that team and you know it.
Rooney never played for the U21s either.

So what?
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>>67628572
How am I biased? I support neither West Ham or Man United.

I just see the potential positives from bringing on Carroll when they're sitting deep and our fast attackers haven't worked. Rather than bringing on another fast striker who has no experience at this level, and won't have space to run into
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@67628574

>More English than me
>Is a disgusting gypo

Got a big issue for you to sell mate.
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>>67628542
Brush your tooth, France.
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>>67628394

>Because it's fucking irrelevant how they've done in the league.

Then no Leicester player should be in the squad either. What a fucking tard you are.
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>>67627973
>154 lbs, 6' 2" player as a center back
>mfw
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>>67628581
Rooney was a much better youngster than rashford was, and actually completed a professional year before getting called up
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>>67628555
>I'd say that's the main thing standing between England and a decent tournament run at the moment.
And you'd be wrong. It's our defence. It's shite.
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>there are people who rate an mls babby like defoe

fuck off
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>>67628572
>>67628581
>This United fan samefagging for his team's new meme striker

Kek, Rashford shouldn't be near the squad mate, he's done fuck all.

And Rooney was playing every week already and was much better
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>I still rank Wilshere since he outclassed all those plumbers in the qualifiers
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>>67628519
Oh yeah no doubt. Wonder if they have time to put him in the U21 squad after he gets dropped from the first team. If so then it isn't the worst thing that Roy just wants to take a look at him then send him onto the U21s but I'd still rather he put that spot to use and just called Rashford up for a friendly or piss easy WC qualifier in a few months.
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>>67628590
Rashford isn't going to the Euros, stop fucking crying.
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>>67628545
It is the most successful tactic against a parked bus. Kloppo brought on Caulker as a CF when Liverpool were chasing games. Bayern got past Juventus by playing loads of crosses.
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>>67628598
Nice strawman, you stupid cunt, but Drinkwater and Vardy were given an opportunity and done well for England.
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>>67628574

I welcome you into our support far more easily than any inbred manc.
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>>67628602
He still didn't play for the U21s which is what seems to have upset you.
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>>67628622
Exactly, pace is useless against a team sat in their own box.

You need either intelligent poachers, or a big man. Defoe and Carroll fit much better than Rashford
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How can anyone shit on picking Wilshere? Been BY FAR the best and most consistent England player when he's been fit, which he is now.
Even Scholes had to admit that Wilshire was the current MVP for England.
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>>67628644
>which he is now.
lol
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>>67628644
>when he's been fit
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>Stones ahead of Shawcross

WEW LAD
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>>67627973
Can't wait to turn you boys over.

Fucking Rashford ...fucking rash choice. Woulda picked Defoe over him any day!
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CAN SOMEONE GO TO THE ARSENAL THREAD AND INITIATE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ENGLAND TEAM ASAP FFS
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>Rashford

Lol, if he played for West Ham he wouldn't be near the squad
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>If Woy drops the crock no Arsenal players will be in the England squad
What a sad fucking joke of a club
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>Stones
>Barkley

kek
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>>67628665
still 2nd you wanker
brave english lads bottled it massively and will again at the euros
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>>67628607
I'm not a Man Utd fan and I don't think Rashford should be going to the Euros, let alone be in the PROVISIONAL squad. I have never argued otherwise, you fucking paki strawmanning faggot.

What I have argued is that Carroll is fucking dreadful, a dumb cunt and a liability. You have just twisted this argument into some sort of advocacy for Rashford because you're a thick, uneducated shitskin.
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>>67628659
Why would a group of Nigerians want to talk about the England team?
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>>67628642
That wasn't me. Either way Rooney was actually good enough to go straight to the first team (same with Alli), you can't say the same about rashford
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>>67628656
le one man monkey face team
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No Everton players should be anywhere near the squad

John Stones unironically has been one of the worst centre backs in the league this season
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>>67628622
>It is the most successful tactic against a parked bus
No it isn't.

Plus, you bring Carroll on, all he's going to do is elbow smashed defenders and they'll collapse to the ground. The refs aren't going to stand for that shit either.
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>>67628675

They're doing it in this thread so clearly they want to talk about it. Let's move them to their containment thread - is what i'm saying.
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>>67628673
On his day Carroll is close to unplayable and offers something no one else in the English team could.
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>>67628647
>>67628648
Literally not a single midfielder in that squad who's played better for England than Wilshire. Half of them are completely unproven and might be complete shit for all we know
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Remember when retards used to think Crouch was our ace in the hole. Big man up front. Le ebin aerial threat.

Remind us how well that turned out.
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>>67628652

I'm no fan of Stones but Shawcross was exposed as a shit clogger at international level when Zlatan made him his bitch
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>>67628688
This is true, we're not in the Premier league now. When in Rome.

We need Ashley Young to combat bus parking by winning dubious penalties.
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>>67627973
Can't win anything with kids.
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>>67628673
That was my first post to you, the fact that you're getting so mad shows you have nothing worthwhile to say
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>>67628702
Didn't his goal (whilst he dragged the defender down by his dreadlocks) ensure England progressed from their World Cup group.

Crouch was always underrated imho. Great feet and interplay for a big guy.
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>>67628701
At least they can stand up unaided which is more than can be said for Wilshire
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>>67628702

2005–2010 England 42 (22)

pretty well?
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>>67628712
Even you have to admit that's an unfair assessment of what a "fair shot at England" is
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>>67628695
Literally meme words. Nothing objective or reasoned, just this warped idea that a shockingly shit striker is somehow good because he's tall and can head a ball.
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Sorry are there no good English players playing in La Liga, Bundasliga, Serie A?
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>>67628684
Le monkey faced fucking genius who'll be showing your boys how it's done
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>>67628702
Crouch scored 22 goals in 42 games for England.

8 goals in 12 world cup games
4 goals in 9 Euro games

Seems his aerial threat worked better than Rooney ever has
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>2nd division player in the squad
What other "big" national team does this?
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>>67628721
And you're a strawmanning paki incapable of arguing against what has been actually posted so fabricates a position to quarrel against.
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>>67628736
So you bring 5 strikers who all do the same thing? Don't be retarded, there's nothing Rashford offers that isn't offered by another striker. Carroll would have brought something else if our plan was failing
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>>67628746
Oh chimpanzee that!
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>>67628737
They wouldn't get paid as much in those leagues. Also English people are incapable of learning a second language.
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>>67628736
If you knew anything about him as a player you'd realise he has so much more to offer than just heading the ball.

His only downside is he is always fucking injured.
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>>67628677
Rashford isn't in the team, he's in the provisional squad.

He won't be going to the Euros unless there's injuries. Please stop getting upset and mad.
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>>67628737
Ewww who would choose to not live in England?
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>>67628737

Why would any English player move to a worse league for less money?
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>>67628753
You seem obsessed with Pakis fella, you're a strange one.
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Rashford has shown a lot of potential in an underperforming Man Utd team. By far one of their positives from this season.

I can understand why he's been named.
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>>67628747
There's no way crouch scored more than 1 world cup goal
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>>67628778
Yeah those 4 league goals totally justify him going ahead of Defoe or Carroll
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Pakis out!!!!!!!!!!!

Stick to creekit.
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>>67628723
>Didn't his goal (whilst he dragged the defender down by his dreadlocks) ensure England progressed from their World Cup group.
No.
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>>67628758
right, so, ages ago, there was this little fella ...
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Rashford is literally there as a reserve come down fags at best he will warm up the bench.
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>>67628728
Talking about the specific hoofball tactic in games that mattered. Not friendlies against Jamaica.
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>>67628747
But it wasn't his aerial threat, you simple cunt.
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>Carroll would have brought something else if our plan was failing

Pakis think this. Kek
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>>67628807

List of England players in the last decade who played well in games that mattered

1. Owen Hargreaves
2.
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Roy Hodgson: "Walcott has not played enough.”

Walcott: 1,373
Townsend: 1,089
Delph: 751
Wilshere: 141

I'm glad that Walcott isn't in the squad, but still, is Hodgson actually insane?
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>>67628799
We know
It's the implications that we care about. Experienced strikers who scored more goals can't get ahead of a teenager who played a few games for big strong manchester united
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>His only downside is he is always fucking injured.
>only downside
>always fucking injured
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Will this Carroll meme end?
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>>67628787
Rashford isn't GOING, you stupid fucking idiot.
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>>67628833
Maybe he meant the past two seasons ie. since the last major tournament
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>>67628833
Fact is Walcott has lost his way this season. He will be leaving arsenal this summer and talk off his head being in a bad place. Tried to prove he is striker at arsenal. Failed badly. Wenger talks about Welbecks injury and says he needs another striker this summer coz Giroud is only striker he has.

Walcott fucked his career up by failing to accept that the wing is his position.
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>>67628511
Caroll would score that late header though. Plenty of players on that team sheet are dogshit.
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>>67628787
>league goals are the only ones that matter.
Interesting.

It appears you don't understand the concept of a provisional squad. Plus, Defoe's old and his time for England has been and gone. Hodgson's logic for selecting Rashford made sense.
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>No Chris Porter
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>>67628828
Not an argument.
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>3 CBs

Seriously, why aren't we giving a big strong no-nonsense defender like Shawcross or even fucking Michael Dawson a call?
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>Not taking Will Grigg for his chant

DROPPED
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>>67628851
Not whilst these West "we won the world cup in 66" Ham retards keep shitting up /sp/
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>>67628015
England don't have a great deal of quality on the wings, who else should have gone instead of Townsend? He's been fantastic since he joined Newcastle. Walcott and Ox have had terrible seasons and lack quality, the only player I can think of who should be there is Mikel Antonio but he shouldn't take Townsend's spot
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>>67628869
>Caroll would score that late header though
People think this is fact

A striker that has scored 9 (NINE) goals in 29 games this season would almost guarantee to score for England in the latter stages of a match.
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You know Roy has to make a real functional football team right?

So all you West Ham and Stoke fans pipe down with your flavour of the week players, England caps aren't Blue Peter badges
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>>67628894
dier will be 4th CB if there is the need for that. isnt it positive to have a versatile guy like him?

i agree though, shawcross should be there.
and was jagielka really shittier than stones and cahill?
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>>67628921
Antonio has had a much better season than Townsend who's incredibly 1 dimensional
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>>67628921
Albrighton
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>>67628894
I think Dier is naturally a CB so he could fill in there
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>>67628343
Qualifiers against teams like Lithuania and Slovenia. That shouldn't merit anything.
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>>67627973
>forster
>hart
>heaton

They couldn't make room for Schmeichel? Wtf. He was one of the key players in Leicester's triumph.
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Good thing i didnt put money on this delusional fucks
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>>67628929
B-but in FIFA if you pick players with highest rating you can always win.
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>no butland
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>>67628930
>dier will be 4th CB if there is the need for that. isnt it positive to have a versatile guy like him?
Yes, but please bear in mind that a lot of our fans are utter fucking retards incapable of reasoned, rational thought
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>rashford
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>>67628924
>>67628929
>>67628930
>>67628962
Good posts
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>>67628941
Nor should games against Norwich and Villa.
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>>67628428
Continental referees are far less forgiving than those in the Premier League, I can't count the number of times I've seen La Liga players give away fouls simply for being taller than the player they're competing for a header with
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>>67628966
He got injured badly when he was playing against your NT.
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>>67628941
Yeah, make fun of us, but keep in mind we're the only NT that actually gave you a game in the qualifiers and that's with the shittiest NT we put out in fucking years.

Enjoy your group exit.
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>>67628475
Leicester don't have good players they have a good system which makes the team perform well beyond the sum of its parts, taking individual players out of that system and trying to make them adapt to that of England will not yield the same results
Simpson and Albrighton have never excelled at any other point in their respective careers for a reason
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It's coming home, isn't it lads?
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>>67629023
tell the world it's coming home
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>>67629023
As likely to come home as Madeline McCann
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>>67628333
So did everyone else.
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Kyle Walker,Marcus Rashford, John Stones, Fabian Delph, Jack Wilshere ,Andros Townsend.

Less likely but still a bit possible: Wayne Rooney, Adamn Lallana, Danny Drinkwater

There you have it , the 3 missing Euro 2016 will be amongst these 9 players.

Everyone crying over Rashford being there: Wellbeck would be called instead but INJURED.
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Would have gone for Antonio over Delph
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>>67629062
I don't think any defenders will get dropped barring injury (walker went off inj yesterday). 2x2 fullbacks, 3 CBs and a 4th CB as a midfielder (dier) is the sweet spot
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>>67629062
you forgot lallana and henderson (if hes not yet fit after his injury)

but ofc, they wil have to be there. to "placate" the liverpool fans, to borrow someone elses expression from earlier.
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As for everyone whining about why leicester doesnt have more players in the squad:

They dont have worthy players. Bad season for: Chelsea, United , City , Liverpool(first half of season was terrible) instatly means they have a chance to do better than possible.

Also their defensive players were actually bad. Check their statistics in every match. they give away too many shots on and off target, yet manage to win 1-0 2-1.
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>>67629077
shit nvm i see lallana. but hendo should also be a question mark
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>>67628931
>Townsend who's incredibly 1 dimensional
have you seen him play this season m8? I've watched every minute of him at Newcastle and I'm not biased because I thought he was shit too and a complete waste of money before we signed him.
>Averaged more key passes per game than any other player in the Newcastle team this season
>2nd highest dribbles per game
>highest average match rating

and yes, I realise the competition at Newcastle is poor but people seem to assume that all he does is cut inside and shoot but he's far from one-dimensional; he can cut inside, cross, run at defenders and play through balls
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>>67629086
Kante made the back 4 look good. His interceptions/tackles numbers completely dwarf everyone else in Europe
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>>67629082

lallana is included. henderson i was thinking about including him but the whole fuss about him being " THE NUXT GERRORD GUISS!!" kinda makesm e feel ppl have faith on him.
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>>67628930
>isnt it positive to have a versatile guy like him?
But if Dier is forced into CB due to injuries then who is supposed to fill his role of holding midfielder? The defence needs protecting at all times
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>>67628712
Absolute shite.

Even whilst being out injured for half the season, Shawcross is still a superior choice to EBJS at this moment in time.
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