>two completely unrelated team tie in a match
>somehow this wins a "championship" for another team
jesus christ soccer is the biggest semen slurping sport on the planet
>I cant do math
Why are americans so obsessed with a sport they don't care about?
>>67296465
insecurity
>>67296386
why can't you understand the concept of points?
>>67296444
Are you saying that what OP said happened didn't literally just happen?
>lel I'll defend my stupid sport by calling Americans dumb!! That always works XDD
The season ends in two games, the 2nd place lost the decisive game... come on, its not too hard to understand.
>>67296386
>completely unrelated teams
>one is the closest contender for the title
Why are Americlaps so retarded lads?
>Americans watch 82 games that only decide which half of the league won't be allowed to play in the 20 game tournament that actually decides the championship
Why not just have the tournament to begin with? Even if you had all the teams in it there'd still be less games, and they'd mean more.
>>67296465
because they are ignorant, cultureless degenerate faggots
>>67296465
We really don't, we understand how the league works. It's just fun to trigger yuros
>>67296544
Yeah but his "somehow" comment suggests that he doesn't understand that it happened with good reason.
>>67296645
Obviously he's saying that this isn't the way a champion should be decided, not that he doesn't understand. Direct your attention to his picture if you would. It's meant to display his disgust and disagreement with what happened
>>67296619
But you only make yourselves look retarded. I know you must be used to that by now, but why do it on purpose?
>>67296971
Who is more retarded, the retard or the person getting into an argument with the retard?
/sp/ yuros are like Reddit sjws, too easy to trigger.
>>67296971
Why should we give a fuck? Why do you care what other people think so much? If you want to think every American is a dumb pistol waving, motorized wheelchair riding fatass because it makes you feel better about yourself and your stupid sport then be my guest
>>67296516
Kek
>>67296386
>He's a spurs fan
>unrelated teams
>second place team
>unrelated
>>67296516
#REKT
>>67296516
Okay but we think this shit is dumb to so
>>67296386
>completely unrelated
uh no, one of those teams is the only team challenging them for the title
That's very related.
>>67296516
/thread
Amerilards BTFO
>>67296386
You're embarrassing us OP, go to bed.
>>67296386
CHAT
>>67296516
AmeriKKKa BTFO
>>67296516
>>67296516
>americans
>>67296516
BANG'D
TSSSIN4M
>>67296516
CHAT
>>67296386
Wait. The tie didn't even involve Leicester? What the fuck.
>>67296516
>THEY GOT BANGED
>>67299331
Do you grasp basic maths?
>>67296386
>that flag
>can't do math
Jamal, please.
>>67296386
Americans talk like fucking retards, fucking kek at your gay vocabulary.
>>67299331
>how do things work
>>67296516
>cant defend the sport
>posts memes instead
>>67296465
same reason Euros/Strayans post "american athletes" meme all day long, even though we crush the world in international sporting events such as the Olympics.
>>67296521
tell me about it.
>>67299425
See, this is the most offensive part. A title is decided by a game without the champion team.
>>67299390
>has an effeminate nasally posh accent that does not enunciate every syllable clearly
>says other English speakers sound gay
its like you can't even hear yourself.
>>67299469
It's how a competition designed to determine the best team works friend. I understand if the maths is a bit much for you.
>>67299437
>not kissing your sissy teen brit boytoy
>>67299469
>team accumulates the most points
>wins
Come on friend, this isn't reddit.
>>67299500
math*
>>67299331
Math n shit. It's impossible for the second title contender to surpass the first one by now. So the league recognizes Leicester as winner before their game.
>>67299469
Culmination of 36 games of grind. It could have been decided in a number of ways, but that's just the way the cookie crumbled this time because Tottenham cannot mathematically catch them now.
>>67299429
>we crush the world in international sporting events
>literally don't play a single team sport that other countries play out of fear of losing
Reminder that gridiron and baseball were literally pushed in the states because they didn't want to have to suffer the embarrassment of losing to England in a sport they care about.
>>67299529
Christ, English too.
>>67299541
>>67299548
Yes, that's how American leagues determine divisional titles and such, so that they can be seeded into a playoff bracket.
>>67299552
>Reminder that they play netball, rounders and padded rugby
>>67296516
>>67299566
>defending your shitty league
>>67299826
>Chatting shit and getting banged this hard
>>67296516
How embarrassing
>>67299861
>winning the championship by sitting on the couch and watching another team
>>67296516
>the banging continues
Will America ever recover and be great again?
>>67299957
>being this dumb
>>67296516
Put me in the screen cap.
>>67296516
Will Americans ever recover?
>>67300055
But I am correct. Did Licester play today?
>>67300108
CHAT
>>67300108
KEK, no they didn't
Just stop please
>>67300129
*unsheathes twin katanas*
Wanna try me kiddo? If I were you I'd back off before I got hurt
>>67300108
They played yesterday. It's simply due to the fact that you can't have 10 games on the same fucking day.
>>67300163
So you must have made a mistake with your previous post. I'd delete it if I were you. Try and be more careful before posting next time
>>67296386
>doesn't understand rules of the game
>talks shit
>American rugby ball
>score a td is counted as 6 points plus gk as 3
>team is up by 27 points
>other team is down by 20 but keep watching because "muh excitement" other team might come back
Burgerlards this is history in the making and before talking shit at least learn why this is nothing but a huge win for an underdog team
>>67296516
holy fucking nuclear mang
fuckin hate yanks so much, repulsive country tbqh
>>67299969
We both know it's neither of those things.
>Americucks
>>67300201
>Try and be more careful before posting next time
Thanks amerifriend
>>67300163
>>67300187
I'm glad Leicester can commemorate this feeling of winning the championship while in their 15 square foot flats.
They'll look back at the time they were laying on their prayer mat as the local Minaret announced they were mathematically determined champions
>>67300265
6/10 desu
>>67300265
public houses matey
>>67300265
>mathematically determined champions
As opposed to any other way of determining a winner, right? Screw all this nonsense of checking the sign of the point/score difference. Just go via gut feeling.
>hi guys am i trolling yet?
>>67300265
>american bants
#cringe #pleasestop
>>67300350
This is America where everyone gets a participation medal and you get rewarded for doing shit in a season
>>67300265
I don't actually see how this is hard to understand or even a problem. Playoffs to determine the league winner are a meme and offer nothing over a normal league system apart from being able to have Advertb Owl games and to let the team that actually finished 4th win.
>>67296560
Hockey and basketball aren't sports
>>67296516
ITS OVER WE JUST GOT BODIED
>>67300410
Have you ever played a sport lad
>>67296544
>That always works XDD
it's always true
>>67300428
In what world is that a relevant response? What point are you trying to convey?
>>67300350
>>67300392
where's the soul? The moments?
It's lifeless, boring
>>67296554
our school system is fucked
>>67300254
That baby is way too dark to be mixed, it's obviously adopted.
In the US the fastest way to adopt is go for a nigger or else you're on a waiting list for years to get a white baby. Not really cucking, just pathetic as fuck on their part.
>>67300478
>Where's the soul
>It's boring
The messed up hyperactive mentality of Americans is astounding. Talking to Americans explains so much about their media and how retarded it has gotten
This happens all the time in the NFL. God you're fucking stupid.
>>67296554
It's not that we don't understand, I don't know why you don't understand that
>>67300491
don't post here anymore. Your kind isn't welcome
>>67300478
>where's the soul? The moments?
We've had that the whole of the season. Whereas in american sports the season means fuck all
>>67300533
tell me more doctor Khalid
>>67300478
where the fuck is soul in your leagues?
you plastic shit.
>>67300546
when did the Browns-Texans game proclaim the Broncos champions?
>>67300478
>where's the soul? The moments?
>It's lifeless, boring
Mate, an entire city started shouting as soon as the game was over. I don't even live too centrally in Leicester, and I can still hear a few people singing, and the occasional firework going off, car horns.
How is that not a moment?
This is a sport in which the league doesn't just gift you a bunch of talented players via a draft system, which is why the Foxes winning the title is more unlikely than anything you'd see in e.g., the NFL.
>>67296465
why do you have 100 semen slurping threads on an american site, get your own chan
t.chan
>>67300558
triggered by the truth eh?
>>67300428
Rugby for ten years, gridiron for a year and strongman on and off.
Why?
>Reminder that in the US teams are rewarded for doing badly
>>67300614
There's no playoffs, sure. But winners of divisions are constantly not playing. "oh shit, we gotta scoreboard watch after the game to see if the other team won"
>>67296516
>german humor
>>67300478
Yeah, watching a guy kneel down a few times is a much better way to end it.
>your city will never ever ever have anything like this
and yes, have seen giants and yankees celebrations, but not even CLOSE to everyone joining in together
>>67300653
>Parity is a bad thing
Don't you have a riveting game of 1-1 flopgrass to watch on the Telly?
>>67300468
>>67300637
Why did you play them?
>>67300635
>>67300626
>>67300602
>>67300584
>>67300539
>>67300410
>>67300369
>>67300350
>>67300335
>>67300332
>all these (you's)
Thanks mate, I needed that dose
>>67300478
>not just accepting football as the world's greatest sport
It's happening lid, no point in fighting it. Soon your nba and nfl will be relegated to niche sports like they are in the rest of the world.
>soccer
>mfw people actually like this shitty sport
>>67300719
>I-I'm only pretending to be retarded
T
I
M
E V E R Y
>>67300668
Didn't mean to respond to you t b h
>>67299586
Thing is our post-season is for international games, you wouldn't understand that since literally nobody cares about your """""""sports""""""" except yourselves.
>>67296516
REKT
>>67300757
Better than rounders or netball
>123 replies
nice one, /sp/
>>67300891
Never enough threads of Americans getting BTFO
>>67300711
Because it's fun, and so is winning. I can see why people like playoffs but they don't determine the best team in the country. They make sense in the NFL where there are too many teams in one league for a normal system to work, but in the European soccer system they make no sense whatsoever outside of stuff like the Champion's League.
>>67300905
>responding to trole posts
>btfo
my friend...
>>67300905
I sure feel BTFO right now
t-take it easy on me, okay?
>>67300905
>Euro still mad at the moot Mars sticky
>Calls this a blow out
Literally brain damaged
>>67300177
>*___________________________*
Kill yourself.
>>67300939
>>67300952
>>67300978
>They actually gave me (You)s for that post
Americans continue to reach new depths
>>67301053
If I were you I'd tread lightly. Not many survive when they decide to cross me
>>67300491
>our school system is fucked
says the border line mental retard mshitcan
>>67300735
>Soon your nba and nfl will be relegated to niche sports like they are in the rest of the world.
These leagues make just as much money as European leagues.
Football will NEVER be popular in the US because our broadcasters want sports that let them assault the viewer with ads. I can take it in basketball, but American football and baseball are boring as shit since there's so much just standing around.
>>67301064
>I was only pretending!
(You)uro humor
>>67301118
>American """comprehension"""
>>67296516
>>67301143
>You were never afraid of bring shot in MathS
>>67301180
>If Cletus fires a gun at Finn and the bullet breaks into three pieces, how much will Finn's parents have to tip the ambulance driver?
>>67300491
the fact that you think there is a federal school system says all you need to know about the validity of your input. Youre as bad as the retard yuros who don't seem to realize how often their pots are calling our kettles black.
>>67300418
>19 games max for a team per season
Why do you hate fun?
at least Leicester aren't referring to themselves as 'world champions'
>>67301154
>i can't believe you responded
>LOL i can't believe YOU responded
bazinga
>>67296516
CHAT SHIT GET BANGED
>>67301374
They will next decemeber
>>67301374
FIFA club world cup winner, 16/17
calling it now
>>67301334
>You forgot to carry over the diversity tax and you get manshamed
>>67296516
7-1 tier rekt right there
From what I gather is that Europeans don't have the balls to deal with extra tension a playoffs would bring and only play the regular season.
And thank god the civilized part of the world has playoffs since in their twisted world, the Patriots would be 16-0 Super Champions. And is a world no non-faggot would want to live in.
>>67301561
>Extra tension
No we just don't believe in participation medals.
>>67301606
That just means you choke under pressure.
Explains why you needed us to bail you out against the Germans in both World Warb Owls.
>>67301561
>since in their twisted world the best team is crowned champions
I don't see the problem there
>>67301649
No, our competition is about trying to determine the best team. Not about trying to make sure everyone gets to be a winner.
>>67301561
>From what I gather is that Europeans don't have the balls to deal with extra tension a playoffs would bring and only play the regular season.
But they do have playoffs, you dolt. Finishing in specific positions qualifies you for tournaments like the FA Cup and the Champions League. Literally the only difference between that system and the one used in most American sports is that European playoff formats often involve inter-league match ups.
>>67301561
Euros can't even handle sudden death.
>>67301649
>avoiding extra tension
>choking
Type "Agueroooooooo" into youtube m8
>>67301561
Every league has at least one playoff-type cup that goes with it. So if you're really into knockout stages, you can always ignore the league and go to the cup games.
I don't really see the appeal of playing 15 games and being fucked for the rest of the season if you screw up once or twice. Too much dependence on the seed.
>>67301561
DESU, Playoffs are just for a show. A TV show. It's a terrible way to rank the best and most consistent team of the season.
But we have the Champions League if you want playoffs. [spoiler]Unlike the "World Series" where only your country participates[/spoiler]
Funny thing is, if the NBA decided champions in the way it's done in football, there would probably be MORE anticipation and excitement for the winner because the seasons are 80-something games.
>>67301810
>Champions League if you want playoffs
Remove the home-away shit. And then it'll be more watchable.
>>67301848
>seasons are 80-something games.
Wait, what?
But they at least manage to play every other team in the country right?
>>67301848
>80 something games
And that isn't enough to decide who is the best in the country?
>>67301334
Kek
>>67301865
No. Home pressure really test the mental strength of the players. You shouldn't give advantage to anyone.
>>67301893
A handful of times, yes. For instance, the Golden State Warriors finished 73 and 9 this year, which tops a league record that stood for over 20 years. Their star player is out on injury and they might be eliminated from the playoffs soon, I think that's bullshit and really invalidates what they did.
>>67301720
So this whole league is basically the minor league of British soccer. That's even more pathetic to see people going crazy over that.
>>67301757
>Couldn't handle the Germans
>Can't handle the bants
>>67301810
>>67301763
It's about preforming well when the stakes are higher. If you want true consistency, doing well in the playoffs when you're facing off against the best teams. Also playoffs seeding is a way to reward teams who get hot towards the end of the season so just because they shit the bed in the early part, it doesn't mean they're written off.
>>67301929
Is that because your teams are allowed to throw garbage and use laser pointers and spotlights on opposing players?
>>67301893
The US is a pretty fucking big country. It makes quite a lot of sense to divide the whole thing into conferences.
Might be the reason for the apparent misunderstanding here. A conference is way smaller than a league, and winning your conference doesn't have the same merit as winning the EPL. The playoffs are then what we the CL/EL is for European sports.
Size matters.
>>67301561
>what is the champions league
>what is the europa league
>what is the fa cup
>what is the league cup
>what is the world cup
>what are the european championships
>what are the championship, league 1 and league 2, playoffs
>what is the Johstons Paint Trophy
>>67301893
>>67301915
Also, fuck damnit it's really difficult to follow a team throughout the season with this many games. This is why I almost always tune out during the middle of the season when it gets ridiculous and you get like 3-4 games a week from the same team. I definitely think 1-2 games should be the max as it would potentially increase the talent. (also these games are hella long, sometimes going 3-4 hours)
>>67302036
>soccer having all these different competitions
Would a bit of consolidation hurt?
>>67302009
>It's about preforming well when the stakes are higher.
Is it? So why bother with conferences at all? Put all of the teams into a tournament roster, done.
>>67302009
>If you want true consistency
How the fuck is 73 and 9 NOT true consistency?
>>67302092
Its what happens when you have more than a dozen teams that people care about
>>67302092
Yes.
>>67302100
How in the fuck are you supposed to seed them? Random draw out of a hat?
>>67301987
It's called keeping your team healthy. A lot of teams that are monsterous in stats get decimated because of injuries.
One of the main reasons the Patriots 'beat' the Seahawks in last years Super Bowl was because half of the Seahawks's top rated defense were out of the game or playing injured. If they were at full strength, they probably have stomped on Brady.
Hockey has it even worse where the losing team of the stanley cup had their top goalie playing with a torn groin and one of their top players had a broken wrist while playing.
>>67302009
>It's about preforming well when the stakes are higher.
Wheras we prefer to reward a team that plays well all year long
>>67302036
>Johstons Paint Trophy
This is a real competition in England.
Sherwin-Williams League Baseball when?
>>67296516
1776 confirmed for yuge mistake
>>67302092
I think you could cut down, but there are some that are definitely worth keeping around. The sport is so popular in Europe that the various leagues all draw enough attention to justify themselves, which is why you can have a tournament for the lower leagues, one for the bigger leagues, and one that tosses everyone together. (the FA is one of the more interesting because it's every team in the country capable of entering actually entering and seeing how far they can get)
>>67302155
Why bother seeding them? Won't that make it more exciting and add more pressure?
>>67302092
>holiday tournaments
>conference standings
>conference tournament
>march madness / NIT
similar to CBB
>>67301915
No, because not every team plays each other in a season. But unlike the NFL (which is garbage because 1 game eliminations are a horrible way to decide champions), every other major sports league in the US does playoffs with a series format. So when two teams meet in the NBA, NHL, or MLB playoffs they play best out of 5 or 7 games (depending on the stage of the playoffs) to advance.
>>67302184
What is
>AT&T Arena
>Staples Center
The US doesn't do a lot better with naming things.
>>67302222
At the end of the day, it's March Madness that matters. Everything else is irrelevant. Nobody cares who fucking won the NIT.
>>67302242
>KFC Yum! Center
>>67302241
>which is garbage because 1 game eliminations are a horrible way to decide champions
How so?
You make it that far by beating teams, you beat the best teams and the teams that beat the best teams to get there. In the end, the final two are literally the final ones standing. A 1 game finale is just fine.
>>67302155
>seed
Wait, what happened to this 'parity' Americans claim their sports have? Why do they suddenly need seeding?
Just toss a coin to decide to winner ffs
>>67301893
You think that's a lot?
Baseball teams play a 162 game season.
Why is it so hard to understand that there are leagues and then cup competitions that run along side them?
>>67302322
No it isn't, because 1 game playoffs have nothing to do with deciding the best team. Half the time it's just the team that got luckiest on that day.
A 7 game series controls for randomness and unlucky slip ups. Have the same teams play 7 times and you'll see the best team emerge, not the team that happened to luckily avoid a slip, an untimely injury, or a single bad call on one particular day.
>>67302418
Yeah but baseball is retarded, I think we can all agree on that shit.
>>67302523
I think what's so hard to understand is the point in having both.
One or the other ends up seeming entirely superfluous, like a consolation prize.
>>67302418
>baseball
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""athletes""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
you could literally play boreball every day, there's no exhaustion involved
>>67302565
Well this board is filled with mongoloids with a single digit IQs, so I can see how that view might be popular here.
>>67302544
>A 7 game series controls for randomness and unlucky slip ups
And completely disregards a team's accomplishments throughout the season. It's not the best team winning, it's "the team that just so happened to be going through a good streak", there are too many variables involved and it literally becomes a game of what-ifs as opposed to the teams just throwing everything they have out for one final game.
>>67302544
Why not make each game of that 7 game series into a best of 3 to control for randomness and unlucky slip ups? Seems only fair.
>>67302696
>And completely disregards a team's accomplishments throughout the season.
...and a single game playoff doesn't?
18-1. I feel like that's all that needs to be said. A 1 game playoff completely shits on any accomplishments a team had throughout the season.
>>67302765
Hey, I'd watch it.
>>67302586
Because you can.
Because it is something to play for as well.
Because a league with say 80 teams in it is a bit of a slog over a year.
A cup competition will have more than just 1 league in it.
The FA cup has a lot of the leagues in England competing in it.
The League cup is for the top 4 leagues in England.
The Johnstone's paint trophy is for the 3rd and 4th leagues in England.
The Champions league is for the best teams from the top leagues in Europe.
The Europa league is for the second best teams from the top leagues in Europe.
And the cup competitions are not superfluous for the smaller teams.
They go on a good run in them and they can play the bigger teams and get much needed TV money and revenue from attendance.
If they get that then it can save their season. Save them from relegation. Give them a boost to get promoted.
Thinking about I can understand why it seems weird because without that kinda system and local representation and small teams it doesn't make sense.
>>67302114
>>67302100
If they can't win in the playoffs, they clearly aren't the best team.
>>67302375
It's still parity since every team is allowed to compete for the higher seed. Unlike in the semen slurping world of British soccer, the seasons aren't decided in ties and just the regular season.
Another problem with soccer. Extra time, ties and shoot outs are garbage, Do it like hockey, shoot outs in the regular season, but in the playoffs, you keep playing until someone scores
>But mum tiring out the players
Good, just means one team is going to score quicker if the other team is exhausted.
>>67296516
well played
Although their are problems using the popular vote, the electoral college is still retarded.
>>67302184
Yup. It used to be the autoglass trophy but its gone up in life since then
Damn, somebody had to cap that, right?
>>67303007
Why not just have every sport as the first to score wins? If match durations (be it halves or quarters) aren't concrete, why have them at all?
>>67302155
Carlo's let himself go.
>>67303007
No one likes shootouts
>>67303007
>just the regular season.
There is no "regular season" outside of the US and your nigger infested sports
>>67303007
>If they can't win in the playoffs, they clearly aren't the best team.
Why bother with the normal league in the first place? It doesn't matter who is the best team from that, they just have to win the play-offs to prove that
>>67303086
Good slippery slope. You play regulation as is, and if regulation time ends. You keep playing that sudden death you're desiring.
Ties are for faggots. Champions who are decided by a tie is even worse.
>>67303117
The play soccer matches until someone scores
>>67303184
For Seeding of course. Part of that parity we love in sports.
>>67303006
>Thinking about I can understand why it seems weird because without that kinda system and local representation and small teams it doesn't make sense.
Basically this. We have tiered leagues in hockey and baseball, but the lower leagues are owned by the major league teams and serve primarily as developmental proving grounds for young prospects or rehabilitation for guys coming off injury.
I'm going to a minor league baseball game this Wednesday actually. We're a farm team for the Chicago Cubs, and I've seen about half of the current Cubs starting lineup play here in my city. So that's pretty cool.
>>67303219
>For Seeding of course
But why would the seeding matter? If you're the best team then you're meant to beat all the other teams in the play-offs to prove it right? Why should it matter who you play in what order?
>>67303269
>Why should it matter who you play in what order?
Because we like order, not random seeding shit.
>>67303219
>Ties are for faggots. Champions who are decided by a tie is even worse.
Leicester won from their 22 wins, 11 draws and 3 losses, if Tottenham had beaten Chelsea, Leicester would have won or drawn Everton this weekend instead to win the league.
>>67303269
for example, golden state will have a much easier semifinals matchup than the thunder or spurs, who have to battle one another. could tire them out. Also, more obviously, home-field/court advantage.
>>67303269
Means you just did well in the regular season, again the playoffs are a different environment which takes much more planning because a loss there is much more devastating. Would Curry have taken such a risk and ended up injuring himself like that in the regular season? Obviously not, but because of how he pushed himself more to produce, it happened. True champions wouldn't do that. Also it's going to show how much depth Golden State really has. If they can't at least be competitive without Curry, they don't deserve the right to be called the best team.
I'm seeing the problem now. You brit bongs are just stat whores and think whoever scores the most overall should be given the trophy as opposed to looking at all the factors that contribute to the win.
>>67303334
You'd think a country that treat their sports like a spreadsheet in regards to their obsession with stats would be better at calculating these things.
>>67297209
>Who is more retarded
>the retard
>American_education.jpeg
>>67303266
Yeah my local team has one of Man United U-21 goalkeepers on a development loan and he is actually half decent for a 19 year old.
I can't think of anybody who has gone on to greatness higher up but it does happen.
>>67303434
>brit bongs are just stat whores
>says the yank
Watch the FA cup or Champions league for knock out football.
>>67296386
>Exhibition game that none of the players care about
>Managers change pitchers every inning, swap players at random to get everyone playing time
>With players voted in by the fans
>The team from the league that wins this game gets home field advantage for the World Series
Nice """"""sport""""""" we have here.
>>67296386
if you don't understand this. then I am glad you don't like football. we are better off without people like you.
>>67296386
>I don't understand the concept of a league
>>67303557
If we were stat whores, we'd just be crowing whoever scores and wins the most the champion.
We don't, which ended up being the undoing for the top two offenses in the NFL that made the Super Bowl. First one suffered from the greatest choke in modern sports history, the 2nd was blown out by the top defense.
>>67303619
We have plenty of leagues here. It's just that in none of them are champions decided by ties that the champions don't even play in.
>>67303593
>>67303619
i think he understands it, he's just scorning it.
>>67303682
For the last fucking time, even in Tottenham won this, Leicester would have beaten Everton this Saturday and won the league regardless.
>>67303682
It wasn't the tie that decided it, Leicesters wins throughout the season were a factor
>>67303577
>exhibition game
it's called "the all-star break" for a reason. 162 games is a long time nigga.
>>67303682
Has a top seed never been guaranteed because of another teams result?
>>67303768
>Completely missing the point.
I am a baseball fan, I understand that the all-star break is needed. That does not mean that the all-star game (an exhibition game) should decide home field advantage for the world series.
>>67303789
Is a top seed a championship?
>>67303822
It would be in a logical system
>>67303768
>162 games
You're kidding right?
>>67303831
But it isn't.
>>67303840
Nope. Every baseball season.
Feels good coming home to watch your team play almost every single day.
>>67303859
Get a more logical system
>>67303840
>His league can't play 162 games
Soccer confirmed for pussies.
>>67303931
Only for stat whores.
>>67303875
162 games?
Then after that, the only way you can work out the best team is to play some more?
>>67303682
>>67303690
Literally the only reason anyone is having this retarded argument is that if you're brought up in a culture that doesn't give a shit about a certain sport then you won't either and will reflexively dismiss any format that doesn't play out in the way you're accustomed to.
>>67303931
Are you afraid of All or Nothing?
>>67303979
Yes, Because the best team by wins got wiped out in first round of the playoffs. So record doesn't matter.
>>67303997
Ironically, you're arguing against England's 1966 World Cup win.
>>67296386
Premier League
>play each team twice, once home and once away, team with most points at end wins the league
NFL
>play 3 teams in your 'division' twice while not playing other teams at all, winner decided by two teams from each 'conference' playing each other during breaks in the 5 hours worth of ads
Yeah, its the premier league thats retarded.
>>67304044
Do you at least play every other team in the country during those ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO games?
>>67304108
Yes, but not evenly.
>>67304059
With the NFL, the system is designed to prevent the same old shit each year, by cycling match ups every year.
>>67304044
>162 games and the record doesn't matter
>>67304141
If you're good enough to win a lot of games, what's stopping you from winning 12 more?
>>67303979
Yup. In fact, the origin of the sports American sports league and post-season championship format comes from baseball.
The National League and American League used to be separate legal entities, and each was intent on proving it was the "real" major league. So they started staging an end of the year championship series (World Series) back in 1902 to prove who was the better league.
It used to work like European leagues. The team with the best record in the NL played the team with the best record in the AL. But then they gradually expanded it later.
Basically it started as a dick measuring contest between billionaire club owners.
>>67304059
>only play each team twice
>Decide the winner off some point system and not who wins the match
Yeah, your system is retarded.
desu eurobros i enjoy watching soccer i just cant bring myself to accept the whole fiscal structure. This is no doubt probably the biggest underdog story in sports (although not my favorite) but this is an outlier. The norm is that the filthy rich teams will continue to dominate, and in my opinion a more consistent form of parity would make euroball much more enjoyable. But I get thats not how it's setup, revenue sharing in baseball alleviated some of the problems (not all) so maybe euroball could look into that?
>>67304108
yes but it sucks, used to be two completely separate leagues. actually originally you'd play every team evenly in your league and the two winners would meet in the World Series
>>67304108
Nope. Not even close in fact. Major League Baseball is split into two leagues (American League and National League), which used to be separate legal entities. It used to be that the only time NL teams played AL teams was in the World Series. They operated completely within their own leagues apart from that, until the last 10-15 years when MLB started expanding inter-league play during the regular season.
But even now, an NL time might play AL teams maybe a handful of times throughout a season.
>>67304202
Leicester have won more games than any other
>America are so obsessed with playoffs they put one in fucking NASCAR
That one is still baffling to me.
You can literally win no races and win the championship.
Someone almost did this.
>>67304202
>decide the winner of the league based on which team performed best in the league throughout the season
ftfy
How many times should they play each team throughout the year?
>>67304051
No, I'm arguing against the mong who thinks that performing consistently over the course of 38 games makes you less of a worthy champion than pulling it together and scraping 1-0's for 7 or something. I'm arguing for the cause of a domestic league, not against tournaments entirely. We already have tournaments, I'm happy with those tournemants (apart from the League Cup I guess), the domestic league helps to determine who can enter some of said tournaments. We have a system that works and has worked since the late 1800s and works in nearly every country across the world because we invented a sport that people in more than one continent actually play.
>>67304397
>worked since the late 1800s
That's antiquated shit. No wonder Euros aren't keen on using Instant Replay. Get with the modern times, you fucks.
>>67304397
>We have a system that works and has worked since the late 1800s and works in nearly every country across the world because we invented a sport that people in more than one continent actually play
Hi, all of this applies to us too. Just FYI.
I await your snide rebuttal.
>>67304349
Same could theoretically happen in F1. Everyone likes an exciting last few games which might be why F1 doubled the last race points possible
Most years you don't even need to win a Premier League game and you would be safe from relegation.
>>67304351
Us decent Americans try to forget that Shitcar exists
>>67304176
because after one hundred and sixty fucking two that should be it
>>67304533
That last sentence is unfathomably retarded.
Why chirp in with an opinion on a sport you clearly don't follow?
This is why your flag gets disregarded so often, just a constant stream of bad opinions, on most topics.
>>67304533
>Most years you don't even need to win a Premier League game and you would be safe from relegation.
>>67296386
>amerifats
>>67304438
If it ain't broke don't fix it. We already have goal line technology lad. Quite rules have changed with the times too, but the league doesn't need to be fucked with when you have billions of people watching it. Also 'instant' replay isn't as conducive to the flow of a sport where the clock is always running as opposed to a 60min game that somehow goes on for 4 hours.
>>67304496
Baseball doesn't count, neither does basketball or hockey.
>>67304202
Winner gets 3 points
Draw gets 1 point
So winning is essential for a team to have a good league outcome
>>67304438
>>67304633
Problem with instant replays is you can end up with 3 different views on the same incident
>>67304533
And of course you can provide many examples of a team not winning a game for the whole season and avoiding relegation because is happens 'most years', yeah?
>>67304397
are you implying hockey, basketball and baseball aren't popular on multiple continents?
>>67304351
Sounds like an awful system you have.
>>67304619
Sounds like you leafs don't have the endurance for the long haul.
Oh wait, you channeled your inner soccer fanbase and started throwing shit onto the field when you were getting your shit stomped in the AL playoffs.
>>67304691
And that means you have three different angles to view if the call made was the wrong call. Unless your refs are paid off. Which they normally are.
Euros throw a party when another team plays to a draw
>>67304244
it was the 15th best team in the country according to bookmakers at the start of the season. the fact that this is such a huge underdog story only supports your distaste for the setup.
>>67304730
>al playoffs
lol what the fuck are you on about I don't watch boreball
also
>sounds like an awful system you have
sounds like you're a fucking retard :^)
>>67304256
this is how playoffs started in the MLB in american sports btw, for all you yuros complaining about it. it grew naturally.
>>67304533
>might be why F1 doubled the last race points possible
Yeah for one season after which they got rid of it because it was shit.
Bernie forced it upon the teams because he wanted an even stupider method of scoring and they agreed to it as a compromise.
And yes it could theoretically happen in F1 but the chance are almost zero. In NASCAR each year of the playoffs has had 1 or 2 drivers with 1 or 0 wins in the final race.
It doesn't matter in the end as the format of racing is not comparable with the formats of standard sports.
You race against everyone else in a series of races. No one gets knocked out.
The only logical way to do it is to just pick a scoring system and score their results over the season.
>>67304752
But then it's just a narrative that the rich will use to sucker people in to keeping this horrible system.
>See? This team that's been around for 130 years finally got first place, that means the system that heavily favors the rich and successful teams is good!
>>67304781
I can feel your salt oozing through my monitor.
>Overtime NFL games are decided by a fucking COIN TOSS
JUST
do you know how often a baseball team wins its division because the team behind them loses?
>>67304730
>And that means you have three different angles to view if the call made was the wrong call.
I meant 3 different opinions on the thing, who is to decide which is the right one?
>>67304813
Is winning a division the same thing as winning the World Series or even a pennant?
the championship should always be decided by a game between the two best, not HURR WHO HAS BEST RECORD. Why the fuck weren't there penalty kicks or extra time or something? ties are garbage
>>67304812
At least they fixed that so one team can't just cheese a win now.
>>67304832
The footage itself, if you have 3 different opinions. It's means your refs are retarded. At that point it's up to whoever the chief ref is or the main office of the league to look at the footage and decide. Again, this assumes they aren't corrupt. Which they are.
>playing penalties with my mate
>5 each, i score 4 miss 1
>his go
>misses the first 2
>i won
>i didn't kick the winner it doesn't count
>>67304851
Because those poor players can't run around for more than an hour.
HOW TO MAKE SOCCER NOT SUCK
Include stoppage of time where the fucking timer actually stops. Done after a time out, goal is scored or a challenge.
Create and offsides rule so you can't just have a defender launch a ball into the mid field and force the attackers to run after it wasting a minute of everyone's time. It'll make it more exciting and force the defender to play smarter than 'kick the ball as hard as possible.'
Instant Red Card for anyone found to be flopping, diving or embellishing.
Use of replay can be used if person is suspected of this.
No ties, you play sudden death either until one team scores or a shoot out.
>>67304623
>>67304625
Draw all 38 games and you have 38 point
Points needed for safety:
14-15: 36
13-14: 34
12-13: 37
etc
Just stating possibilities that will likely never happen like you are.
>Why chirp in with an opinion on a sport you clearly don't follow?
Get fucked.
>>67304930
In the american system, you'd then both have to take 1 more and if your friend scored and you missed he'd be the winner
>>67304851
>Ties are garbage
here we go again
>>67304960
American sports are like football you played at lunch at school when the bell went, doesn't matter what the score was, whoever scored next won.
>>67304987
>Complains that the American system of playoffs is garbage because it doesn't reward the team that is the best
>Thinks that ties are just fine.
You are being cuckold Leaf.
>>67305061
to be fair more playgrounds rules should be implemented.
>>67304496
North America, Central America if you count that and Japan doesn't really constitute world wide appeal, but whatever. I'm not saying play-offs are an illegitimate means of determining a victor, I'm saying it's retarded to dismiss the build up of 8 months hard work because 'lawl they dun even win duh gayme murrica #1 lemme jam cholesterol in muh veins.' I can't begrudge someone for having a predilection to a system they're brought up with. But when you're clearly speaking from ignorance and Americentrism in thinking that nobody should have leagues just because you don't, like nobody should use the metric system just because you don't despite both being overwhelming more popular across the globe it really triggers me.
What's the point in deciding the champion in the regular season? If they're already crowned, everyone might as well stop playing.
At least if you make the playoffs in America, you still have to vi for seeds and if you are eliminated, those teams tend to embrace the roll of being able to play as spoilers.
What does soccer have to justify this?
>>67305129
What's the point in deciding the champion in the playoffs? If they're already qualified everyone might as well stop playing.
>>67305148
Because you have to play to decide who's the real best team because it's not all about stats.
Can you even justify your own system that doesn't involve attacking the America way of doing things?
>>67305129
Why don't cars just hit the brake in Nascar as soon as the winner crosses the finish line?
Ties are nothing compared to the absolutely pants-on-head retarded overtime system the NFL currently has. College football even knows how fucking stupid it is.
>>67305085
Do you not know the function of the tie? Especially in regards to Leicester's victory? A "tie" didn't decide it, the second place team's (Tottenham) inability to gain enough points at this point in the season is what guaranteed Leicester the title.
Even if Tottenham lost, Leicester would've won. However, if Tottenham won, Leicester wouldn't be mathematically safe to win the title.
It's simple
Win = 3 pts
Draw = 1 pt
This was the 36th game and Tottenham had 69 points while Leicester had 77. Do the math now Amerifriend.
>>67305121
you're taking things way too seriously and its pathetic that it informs your opinion of people from another country. nobody actually thinks that everyone else should abandon the metric system, you crazy faggot.
>>67305129
>If they're already crowned, everyone might as well stop playing.
We've got City and United vying for 4th and Newcastle/Sunderland/Norwich trying not to get relegated
>>67296575
lol a name fag calling someone degenerate.
>>67305172
>Can you even justify your own system
Simple. You give the title to the team that's shown they are the best by playing every other team
>>67305175
this is a good question desu
>>67303269
because why would you want to see Golden State vs San Antonio in the first round of the tournament?
There is no playoff system that doesn't use some kind of seeding, apart from maybe the fa cup, and the fa cup is dead
But tennis tournaments, even your precious champions league has some version of it
>>67305175
They should start doing that because the crashes would be gold.
>>67305189
You shouldn't be able to use a tie to decide a champion.
>>67305224
Then a playoff system shouldn't matter to you because if they're the best, they should be able to come out on top in that sort of system.
>>67305172
You're only deciding who the best team is on that day, the regular season determines who the best team is throughout the entire season. Who deserves the championship more?
>>67305172
>The real best team
So what constitutes a team being "the real best team"?
Surely you would think their dominance during the season is the answer.
>>67305258
>and the fa cup is dead
>>67296560
You have a season to whittle down the teams that don't deserve a shot, and then play single-elimination to determine who wins in the clutch.
Football is the master race of sports.
>>67305282
The team that performs when it matters most. Like the most prestigious football trophy, the World Cup.
>>67305272
They've played every other team in the league, why should they have to play them again? Why do you think the title belongs to whoever can deal with whatever flukley random things can happen on a given day?
>>67305282
>>67305300
The team that doesn't choke if they are the 'best'
>>67305272
>You shouldn't be able to use a tie to decide a champion
W E W
E
W
Might as well just delete what I posted.
>>67305121
>Central America if you count that
Also South America...Venezuela is crazy about baseball.
And the Caribbean.
And the Asian presence is more than just Japan. Korea's pretty crazy about baseball too.
>I'm saying it's retarded to dismiss the build up of 8 months hard work because 'lawl they dun even win duh gayme murrica #1 lemme jam cholesterol in muh veins.'
Holy fuck, I can't even fathom being this mad over arguing sports on an anime web board.
>>67305061
Have you never played pick up games with your neighbors as kids and then when it was getting dark declared that next goal wins because you can't really remember what the score was anyway?
LOL some butthurt Mod deleted the post that unequivocally blew OP and Amerilards the fuck out of here
>>67305338
>only play each other twice
>Think that will decide who is the best team between them unless there's a sweep.
Brit Bongs can't be that stupid.
>>67305346
>Using a point system for anything buy Seeding
Silly leaf.
>>67305272
>You shouldn't be able to use a tie to decide a champion.
It didnt. That tie had absolutely no influence on the points accumulated by the team that won the championship.
Specifically in the NBA, the 7 game series playoff really determines the best team.
Best record only gives you one dimension of a team - how well they did during the season, playing different teams at different times. The playoffs gives teams a chance to play each other over and over again. In the NBA especially (where coaching matters, not like in soccer), this results in adjustment after adjustment, and you get the full (or a fuller) range of what each team can do.
If the regular season determines who is best in the abstract, the playoffs determine who can out-grit, out-adjust, outwit, and just overall overcome the other team. A prolonged one on one battle where the better team is gonna come out.
>>67305345
>1 loss out of numerous wins and a stretch of good form means they don't deserve to win
What?
>>67305325
Leicester did perform when it matters most, the whole season.
>>67302092
Well there's many teams. Actual teams. I understand since you're used to barely more than 10 franchises owned by redneck oilers
>>67305398
then why did people watch today's game to find out if lester had won?
>>67305417
See
>>67305407
This can also be applied to the NHL and MLB.
>>67305194
>you're taking things way too seriously
Not really, ur a bellend m8.
>>67305407
a 7 game sample size just isn't that great, and you need look no further than last year and this year to see how injuries can severely impact a team negatively in the short term.
>>67305445
>>67305445
>Well there's many teams. Actual teams.
>EPL has 20 teams
>Every American sports league has at least 30 teams
>>67305453
To see if tottenham could stay in contention or whether leicester had accumulated enough points to the win league. Out of these two statements, which do you think makes more sense?
>leicester won the league because tottenham drew with chelsea in the third last week
>leicester won the league because they won more games than any other team this season
>>67305482
oh well, in that case i take it back, you are right!
anyone have a screencap of what >>67296516 posted and why he was so rekt?
>>67305129
Because the winner isn't the only thing that matters. Who's qualified for next season's European competitions, who's getting relegated, that sweet TV money, all of that could change in the next two matchdays.
>>67305522
they are both limited in explanatory value, because a team's points are only meaningful in the context of comparison to competitors' points. And the second one that you are trying to push is not at all what you said two posts ago.
>>67305353
Why is it that people on the internet can't fathom that you don't have to mad at someone to insult their retarded behaviour?
>>67305407
>Specifically in the Premier League, the 38 game season really determines the best team.
>>67305541
>candidate gets most of the votes
>other candidate becomes president
>>67305521
Those aren't teams though. They are franchises, like KFC. Only instead of selling greasy food they sell cheap entertainment between greasy food ads.
>>67305530
Glad we could come to an agreement.
>>67305504
That shows how much depth a team has. If you have 2 or 3 starters out and the team sucks dick, it just means the team was carried and they aren't even that good.
>>67305554
Which is more limited? You saying that the title was decided on a tie? What do you think had more of an influence on deciding the winner of that league? That one tie or leicesters entire season?
>>67305480
>>67305407
But you don't think rigorous coaching tactics and adjustments (as seen in the NHL/NBA playoffs) apply to league matches? It's why (for example) teams like Arsenal dropped from first place, because (not only did they play badly) but teams also saw Arsene Wenger use the same tactics he's been using for years and favoritism of players like Olivier Giroud. Or a better example, Chelsea's absolute blunder of a season, because teams figured out their style of play and caught on quickly.
Winning and doing well is not something magical that happens. You need to train your players accordingly to out-maneuver and out-skill every team in the league, and make sure that your tactics won't be counteracted again when you face the same team again.
>>67305617
its really more about timing of injuries. every team deals with them, just not all uniformly. a team witih no injuries beating an injured team does not indicate that the uninjured team has superior depth. and with salary caps, its guaranteed that there is some vague uniformity in starpower.
>>67305595
>U only got like 10 team Murrica lulz xD
>Actually we have way the fuck more than your top flight leagues
>LOL those aren't really teams duh!!
>>67305646
i never said the title was decided on a tie, that was someone else i guess.
leicesters entire season is a broader category than tottenham's draw today, but they both objectively played a role in determining the champion. One is just more inclusive.
And your comment that "That tie had absolutely no influence on the points accumulated by the team that won the championship" is true but misleading because the tie absolutely influenced the ultimate outcome of the season.
>>67305658
It doesn't matter nearly as much because you only play the same team twice. At least in a best of 7, you're going to see them at least 4 times so you have more than enough time.
>>67305670
Actually it does if the team with the injured players were the best team, because it exposes the fact that they have no depth and were carried.
If the Warriors get knocked out of the NBA playoffs because Curry was injured, that's indisputable proof they aren't the best team even if they won a bunch of regular season games.
>2 weeks left to play but the winner has already been determined
great sport you have here
>>67305731
you'd have a point if they got knocked out by another team with similar players injured. but that's not what you're arguing, so you aren't correct.
>>67305714
>i never said the title was decided on a tie, that was someone else i guess.
Then why am i even aruing with you?
My question was what had more of an influence, you know the answer.
>>67305745
That just shows the other team didn't play as reckless to cause their players to get injured. So it's still fair.
>>67305761
why are you acting like its profound to point out that all games have more explanatory value than one game? You actually tried to claim that one game had none.
>>67305684
Too bad we don't have just one league then, which answers the question of why there are so many competitions. Keep up.
>>67305796
Im not acting like its profound it should be blatantly obvious to anyone, that's my point.
>>67305658
no, because you don't play the same team over and over again
is this
>americans
: the thread?
>>67305796
I claimed that leicesters points were not affected by that game, you even agreed with me regardless of whether you thought it was misleading. I dont even understand what your argument is.
>>67305809
It's so cute that you let the little guys feel included too. Participation trophies all around!
>>67305836
>>67305731
What does playing the same team over and over again supposed to prove?
There are other teams in the league for a reason.
>>67305897
Who the best team is. You'd think you'd appreciate that leaf.
>>67305862
Weren't you criticising the other guy for making irrelevant arguments? Not too smart are you. You got a bullet lodged in your bonce?
>>67305325
Except the World Cup has that really neat system where one country doesn't play against the other 31 before the knockout stage. Also, teams didn't get seeded after the group stage: RO16 was A1-B2, C1-D2, E1-F2 and G1-H2 in one bracket, B1-A2, D1-C2, F1-E2 and H1-G2 in the other bracket. Doesn't compare at all with how the playoffs in "major leagues" work.
>>67305921
If you dominate the season and end up in 1st place.
That should decide who the best team is.
>>67305897
It proves that they are better in that way.
It's just the second part of what you have to prove. You have to prove you can do it against randoms. And you have to prove you can do it in one-on-one, sustained fight
>>67305840
Yeah fuck American sports. I only watch REAL football.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0SX9a7iHEk
This is the soul you were so desperately asking for americuck
>>67305966
Should the World Cup be decided at the Group Stage?
The World Cup is the obviously superior sports format. Best in the world imo.
HURRRR BEST TEAM ON THE DAY HURRR ANY GIVEN SUNDAY
lets not pretend that playoffs exist for any other reason outside of profits. anyone who thinks its the fairest way to determine a champion is a retard.
>>67305809
>having more than one competition at a sport per year
I feel sorry for your sport casters. They must be fucking bored.
They should call it a round robin tournament not a league
why even have a regular season if the playoffs are the only thing that matters? There is a reason no one gives a shit about regular seasons in playoff leagues because they literally mean nothing.
>>67306015
>the first half ball used to be different to the second half ball
whoa
>>67306094
It's a divisional "championship"
>>67306113
Regular season determines who actually makes the playoffs. You have to actually prove yourself to be better than most of the league in order to gain entry to the playoffs and get a chance at the championship. Keep up.
>>67306015
No, but that's a cup competition, not a league competition, there's a difference. Domestic cup competitions also go strictly by knockout, so yes, everyone has a chance, but it's knockout straight from the beginning of the competition.
Also, what >>67305949 said about the World Cup. It's not seeded, and it's basically a league competition before the knockout stage.
>>67303645
>.351 batting averages
>total yards gained
>those mindbogglingly pointless apehoop numbers
>not stat whores
More deluded than Liverpool la
>>67305966
Well if you're the best team, the playoffs shouldn't be a problem.
>>67306207
>Choke in the playoffs
>Stats go down the drain.
The non empire of UK.
>>67306124
I'm guessing they mean halves of the tournament and not an individual match.
>>67306113
Some teams hang banners for regular season/conference accomplishments and in the NHL you actually get a trophy. I don't think they really care about the regular season trophy compared to the playoffs though.
>>67306113
X number of teams
Y playoff spots
Where X is greater than Y. Regular season determines which teams earn the right to get into the playoffs. Duh.
>>67306207
Don't be mad that our sports actually have objective measures by which players can be judged.
Also, batting average? That's the most basic of all stats. That's almost akin to keeping track of how many goals a soccer player scores. There is actually an argument to be made about baseball fans and stats, because they keep the most ridiculously specific and esoteric statistics, but you should find a better example.
>>67305856
and that claim is either completely irrelevant or willfully misleading. Today's result undeniably played a part in deciding a champion, you said it didn't.
>Amerifats
>>67306246
>Well if you're the best team, the playoffs shouldn't be a problem.
There's always going to be upsets, thats unavoidable. A non-playoff format reduces the risk of those upsets determining the champion and helps ensure that the champion is a reflection of the best team in the league for that season, as it should be.
>>67306186
>>67306256
>>67306269
And why would I, the viewer, bother to watch a regular season game if it has an insignificant impact on the champion?
>>67306256
d'oh
that makes more sense
>>67306389
>regular season determines who actually gets to play for the championship
>hurr the regular season is insignificant
Well everything else is backwards and upside down in Australia, I guess logic shouldn't be an exception.
>>67306342
No i didnt
>That tie had absolutely no influence on the points accumulated by the team that won the championship.
I was arguing with someone who stated that the tie decided the championship. Thats not what you said and not what youre arguing.
>>67306438
that doesn't answer my question Jamal
>>67306479
It literally did. It's not my fault you have no basic reading comprehension skills.
>yfw americucks have 200 games long seasons that determine dick
Why the fuck would anyone bother watching them if it's all defined in a couple of games after all that shit?
>>67306376
Upsets make the games more exciting and if you lose when you're the best. You're not really the best.
>>67306519
That's basebore.
>>67306519
The season determines the best teams in each division.
The best teams in each division go on to play against each other for the championship.
This is pretty simple.
>>67306376
>reduces the risk of those upsets
Why the hell would you want to do that? Lower seeded teams might as well not exist, if you're going to rig the system to minimize upsets.
>>67306529
Nice contradiction. If the best team never loses there are no upsets.
At least be consistent in your shit arguments
>>67306502
Oh boy I can't wait to watch the montana corns play in this thrilling 121st regular season game for a chance to be the lucky 8th spot team that gets to be swept by the yankees.
>>67306563
>If the best team never loses there are no upsets.
You must live in a very boring world.
>>67306563
That's not a contradiction. you should stop being so desperate at nitpicking.
Just have a playoff system that's seeded. Top 8 teams get in it. Top 4 seeds get home field. One game winner take all, and you don't end in a tie.
If the best team is really the best, they shouldn't have a problem beating the 8th seed, and every lower seed until they're eliminated.
>>67306529
The broncos lost a bunch of games last year.
>inb4 but they won when i mattered!
would it make more sense for all regular season games to 'matter' compared to one?
>>67306610
so are you saying that sometimes the team that wins the playoffs isnt the best team? Nice system there
>>67306567
Last year's National League Championship was contested by two wild card teams.
The Yankees have won once in the last 16 years.
Try again.
>>67306610
To be fair, they're losing their shit because they Manchester United or Chelsea didn't win for the first time in league history.
Us Americans are used to having competitive leagues, so upsets don't really surprise us. #blessed
>>67306553
> Lower seeded teams might as well not exist
Leicester was 5000-1 you mong
Al Gore was robbed 2bh
imagine how much better the world would've been
>>67306634
They were still the #1 seed, and because of that they were awarded home field advantage when fighting the other top teams. Which is the main reason they beat the Patriots even with their QB playing injured.
Shows the seeding system works and if your team has depth, even if your GOAT star player is playing like shit, you still come out on top.
>>67306675
Yea, but at what point did Leicester no longer looked like the underdog?
>>67306553
How the fuck is having each team play each other twice then determining a champion considered 'rigging' the system? Having teams change divisions and conferences, having them play some teams twice, others not at all. Thats rigging the system.
>>67306652
Self correction.
The Mets were not a wild card. The Cubs were. I forgot how utterly dominant the NL Central was last year.
Either way, a wild card made it to the NL Championship.
>>67306714
Let me know when a team like Man U gets relegated.
>>67306537
basketball has 82 regular season games
you only have to win half of those to reach the play-offs
>>67306792
>teams that have LOST the majority of their games are able to compete in the playoffs
>>67306778
Villa just got relegated after like 100 years in the top flight having won the league heaps of times and won the champions league.
>american football
>16 games
>a team with a losing record can make it into the playoffs for the "championship"
hahahahaha
>>67306828
>A surprising team winning the championship is a big deal to you
>>67306778
That won't happen because of their money and lack of league salary cap, which is a different issue entirely. I has absolutely nothing to do with the structure of the league you stupid fuck.
>>67305585
>>67305541
reminder that this thread was really funny (despite OP's unfunny attempt) until a real semen-slurper janitor (who is probably american) decided to ruin it
>>67306865
>a team is actually rewarded for their failure
>americommies
>>67306828
yeah...
and they make it a seven game series (used to be five), precisely to avoid upsets and make sure the strongest team wins.
>>67306792
Houston was the only team at 500, and they were the worst getting BTFO by a curryless Warriors team
And the west is like that because (two) three teams just dominated the rest of the competition
>>67306840
>won the league heaps of times and won the championship
Villa hasn't won shit since 1981. That hardly counts. They've been a consistently mediocre mid-table team for years, barring the few years that O'Neill managed, in which they only ever made it as high as 4th.
>>67306778
As opposed to american leagues where they implement a playoff system and good teams are relegated all time.
>>67306878
RIGGED!!!!!
>>67306910
>5000-1 odds for any team ever
Maybe you guys need to get your priorities straight when it comes to welfare.
>>67306887
why would you get mad about deletING off topic posts
euro vs America troll wars are over
>if a team is the best, they will win the play offs and the championship
>but anyone can win, that's what makes American sports so great, parity!
>>67306943
>good teams are relegated all time.
Umm...what?
>>67306943
>relegated
No, teams that fail to make the playoffs or even win in the playoffs end their season. Then they get another chance the following year.
>>67306977
Read what i was replying to
>>67307014
Well, there's no relegation, dumbass.
>>67306957
>american OP tries to banter
that's ok
>gets counter-bantered and absolutely butt-destroyed causing burst of laughter that resonates around the world
*GASP* NOT IM MY WATCH, I'M GONNA PLAY THE OFF TOPIC CARD
Lad, why americans are so INSECURE?
>>67306926
So Man U will likely fall one day. What sense would there be in having the best teams in the league get relegated by some weird fluke? Wtf are you even on about?
>>67296386
You're right. They should have overtime. Flip a coin to decide who gets to go on offence first and send the goalies to the bench. If the first team scores should the defending team also get a chance to score? Nah the game is over lmao XD
>>67306778
playoffs have fuckall to do with relegation, they aren't incompatible, stop mixing subjects.
Germany has a play-off game for teams battling against relegation.
England has play-offs for teams fighting for promoting to the 1st division (they had 3 spots, the first 2 are the determined by "regular season", the 3rd spot is filled with a small tournament between the 3rd and the 6th).
Brazilian league had playoffs and pro/rel for several decades.
>>67307227
> If the first team scores should the defending team also get a chance to score?
In every other American sport that's how it works (including college football), but the NFL is pants on head retarded when it comes to overtime.
>>67307118
I know that you fucking dipshit, jesus christ
No wonder you need playoffs, this fucking retards memory can barely go back 30 seconds, let alone 16 weeks
Jesus christ I made this thread 6 hours ago then closed it and it's at 430 posts now
>>67307285
Hey, once upon a time, the NFL allowed field goals applied to sudden death.
>>67307367
You triggered a bunch of idiotic yuropoors. Good job though. I simply just stop watching anything that's not a world cup tournament. Not having a playoff system is just fucking stupid.
>>67307443
They still do
Adding playoffs to determine who's going to take it all after a 38-week grind is utterly stupid because that's essentially eliminating the off-season. People saying that there should be playoffs seem to forget that the season may have started in August, most teams have started training mid-June.
>>67306552
But if that's the goal of the regular season, then what's the point of games between teams that aren't in the same division before the playoffs?
>>67302009
>rewards teams that started poorly and finished well
>doesn't reward teams that started well and finished poorly
>even though both performed the same overall throughout
>>67301987
>>67302169
Pretty much this.
>>67303978
So handegg is even more so?
>>67305731
>>67305763
>my team hates the top seeded team (eg. because of a rivalry)
>let's just deliberately injure them in the playoffs
>we'll lose but they're going down with us since all their key players are injured and they'll lose in the next round
lel no
>>67306124
>>67306256
>>67306390
Nope. Uruguay and Argentina brought their own balls for the final and both sides wanted to use them. A compromise was reached and it was agreed that they would use Argentina's ball for the first half and Uruguay's for the second.
Argentina led 2-1 at half-time but Uruguay scored 3 in the second half to win 4-2.
reminder this shit is perfectly normal in American sports
>>67307204
PLEASE
WATCH
OUR
"""""SPORTS""""
>>67296465
>Why are americans so obsessed with a sport they don't care about?
They are obsessed with Advertisement. American sports are meme sports held together by Adverts and Whores.
>be MLB slave
>forced to play 162 "games" of mind-numbingly boring smack-ball-with-stick-and-run-in-a-square ball
>end up winning all 162 games
>undisputed champions of MLB
>go to division series playoff
>lose three games in a row to a fifth ranked team
>miss league championship series and World Series
>realize you played 162 meaningless games and wasted half the year that you could have spent getting a gf or a real job
YOU CANNOT, I REPEAT, CANNOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
Also American playoffs are different from European knockout tournaments. For the first round at least, where possible, European tournaments would avoid drawing two teams from the same group together. That'd be like changing the NBA playoffs to make it such that the 1st seed from Western Conference plays against the 8th seed from Eastern Conference, the 2nd seed from Western Conference plays against the 7th seed from Eastern Conference, and so on. How would Americans react to a playoff system like that? I don't know.
Another thing is that in American sports, playoffs occur the same seasonal year that they're decided. In European tournaments (with some exceptions such as for promotion/relegation spots), playoffs occur in the season after the spots are decided.
American style playoffs do occur in certain European non-divegrass sports leagues (like the English rugby premiership). I can't say for sure whether those who follow rugby would like it, though.
USA should have a league for each state then the best from each state would face each other in a knockout system to find the true champion.
You guys have a gazzilion states, imagine the amount of sport matches you would have. Then you could join your town's club and if you were good enough you could participate in said league.
>>67300478
>I did not watch the final day of the 2011/2012 Premier League season: the post
Finally, my personal opinion is that both leagues with playoffs and leagues without playoffs can work. However, it all depends on whether you can legitimately call a clear winner before playoffs might have started.
Due to how NFL's regular season is, playoffs are perfectly justified. However, in leagues where a clear leader can be seen after a series of round robins, like in European divegrass leagues, there is no reason for a playoff series.
>>67312352
>You guys have a gazzilion states, imagine the amount of sport matches you would have.
There's already a shit ton via the NCAA
>Americans trying to take the shine off this year's PL because it produced an underdog story literally a million times better than their supposed made for underdogs sports
Why are you bring this autistic?
Literally one of the greatest feats in sporting history happened and you can't enjoy it.
>>67312577
>Literally one of the greatest feats in sporting history happened
But the season isn't even over yet.
hate this meme already, boston got smoked by ottawa in the last nhl game this season putting a somewhat undeserving detroit (who also lost) into the playoffs
>>67306529
By that logic, if the 20th placed team manages to beat the league leaders, the 20th placed team is clearly better than the league leaders and better than everyone else, so we should hand them the title.
>>67306708
Literally until they actually fucking won it
>>67296874
>team constantly stays at the top of league table
>team has gained more points than nearest rival playing THE SAME TEAMS
>team has done so much better than nearest rival they have gained so many points they can't be caught
How the fuck is that not being a champion, beating not only your nearest rivals but everyone else consistently
>>67297277
The retard as by definition they are a retard you fucking retard
Win every game and team in the season including the other finalist. Unbeaten team dies in a plane crash before finals, not the best.
