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2017 QB prospects edition

ATL:Falcons exercise Trufant's fifth-year option
FA:WAS and SF in 'two-team race' for Norman
FA:Report: Redskins have made Norman an offer
PHI:Report: Sam Bradford likely to request trade
SF:Elway on Colin Kaepernick talks: 'Dormant'
CLG:Schefter: Lynch now 'QB to watch' for Browns
PHI:Report: Bradford 'hot' about Eagles' trade up
DAL:Cowboys LE Demarcus Lawrence banned 4 gms
CLG:Eagles confirm they'll take QB with 2nd pick
PHI:Report: Eagles 'are not trading' Sam Bradford
PHI:Eagles acquire 2nd overall pick from Browns
FA:Free agent QB Hoyer set to visit Broncos next
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Top 10
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2nd for patriots
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>>67016001
Top 10 at being not top 10
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Post ass
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>>67016013

By the time Eli retires, he will more than likely be top 5 in all time yardage and top 5 in TDs.
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>>67015994
>2017 no Watson to Eagles edition
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>>67016058
>top 5
ehh
brees and brady are going to put 4 and 5 in the range of 65-68 thousand if they play just 2 more years, and eli is only at 44K right now
>>67016070
that's lowkey the biggest reason i'm pissed about the trade up
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>>67016058
>passing Era QB
Yards and TDs don't mean as much anymore
He will probably be a top QB in interceptions and interception % too
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Wow.
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Friendly reminder that Ravens trips are literally NEVER wrong.
>The Life of Flacco called Carson Wentz to the iggles
>TLOF called Eric Weddle to the Ravens
>Old Bay called the Rams trading up
>Old Bay called the Eagles trading up to get Carson Wentz
>JFFM called the Rams trading up

Teams in the NFL can only hope the ravens are injured for 2 seasons just so they can have a chance. You niggas are shook.
>you now realize Joe Flacco has had 15 playoff games
>you now realize Joe Flacco almost took his team to the Super Bowl as a rookie
>you now realize Joe Flacco has a 10-5 playoff record entering the 2016 season
>b-but muh passer rating
>m-muh injuries
>m-muh DPI
>l-luck

you niggas couldnt be any more shook, the ravens are coming back stronger and will finish with a 10-6 record. What excuse will you make when Flacco balls out on your sorry ass teams full of sorry ass niggas?
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>>67016110
hows florida this time of year?
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>>67016088
He's currantly at 27 in terms of INTs, but his INTs per season are going donw.
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>>67016110
Who did you want out of the first round for the puckers snook?

Are the eagles trolling for ramsey?
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>>67016052
Old Bay
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Top 10 QBs entering the 2016 season in no order

Brady
Roethlisberger
Brees
Romo
Wilson
Ryan
Rodgers
Cousins
Palmer
Carr
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>>67016137
Eli will be perpetually known as an average QB with average QB skills that somehow won Superbowls
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>>67016058
Will he set the record for picks?

Eli is a very mediocre qb, he makes mistakes way too often
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>Ryan
>Cousins
>Carr
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>>67016133
Warm and wet. Like a sexual innuendo.

>>67016146
A DT or LB who isn't shit.
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>>67016155
>no Rivers

smdh
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>>67016171
Eli isn't even close to setting the record for Picks

>>67016170
Despite the fact that he was one of the best QBs this season.
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>>67016155
>Ryan
>Cousins
>Carr
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>>67016173
all better quarterbacks than you
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>>67016070
>drafting a QB in the 1st two years in a row
So the Iggles will be the new Browns?
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>>67016199
I'd hope professional QBs are better than me
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>>67016189
If being a Top 15 QB is "one of the best QBs" then sure
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if the giants are so good why did they lose their division to the shitskins?
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>>67016155
>no cam
Did you get banned from /pol/?
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>>67016219
They are also better than Stafford
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>>67016233
Cam got exposed in the Superbowl.Total choker.
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>>67016230
They were just having a goof. Didn't feel like winning.
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Why do people suddenly think Cousins is a top 10 QB? He did mediocre against the easiest schedule in the league
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>>67016174
bandwaon faggot
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>>67016226

>>67016230
"Our" defense was terrible and and caused use to lose many games.
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>>67016274
rodgers had a career worse year last season and still went 10-6
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>>67016274
Leave Rodgers alone he didn't have a white reciever
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>>67016274
>if for the first 12 weeks of giants games, the games were 2 minutes shorter
>they would be 10-2

or some crazy stat like that I dont remember
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>>67016274
This doesn't prove anything tho
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>>67016295
Rodgers wasn't playing with one of the worse defenses of all time
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>>67016295
Yeah but he plays in a easier division
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>>67016328
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>>67016058
>what is the Madden Passing Era
anyone who played post-2005 benefited from it. Passing the older yardage/TD leaders like Elway, Fouts, Tarkenton etc don't mean as much when team and luck babbys like Eli Manning are getting into the top 10s.
t. a Pats fan. Even Peyton, Brady, Breezy, and the like would not have nearly the success they have if they played even a generation earlier (Young/Aikman/Favre 90s, for example)

>>67016171
he'll be top 10 in rank, not even close in raw total.
Eli has 199, Favre has 336 at #1, and the next guy (George Blanda) played in the NFL equivalent of the 16th century and has 227.
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>>67016110
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>>67016315
Ya, I mean he was just better than him in all but one important statistical category, but that doesn't mean anything.
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>>67016155
>tfw your young QB is universally in the top 15 with an elite O-line
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>>67016328
kek
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>>67016349
George Blanda has 277 and the person at 10 has 248. Eli's INT numbers have been going down since McAdoo came.
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>>67016370
Post ass
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>>67016155
>no Dalton

you're a fucking idiot
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>>67016417
Fuck off Kirk Cousins is elite
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>>67016417
But Dalton is the epitome of average, that isnt top 10
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thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gigJdf5A85s

>>67016399
y
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>>67016355
It means he threw more and wasn't in trouble and getting hurried as much. Eli has only been a Top 10 QB like a total of 3 years he has been a QB
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Current NFL draft prospect AMA

Feels really weird yet awesome to know I'll likely be picked by someone in less than a week
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>>67016273
k
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>>67016434
His stats say otherwise, memelord
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When's the draft?
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Eli has more rings than
Lions, Bills, Jets, Bengals, Browns, Texans, Jags, Titans, Chiefs, Chargers, Eagles, Bears, Vikings, Falcons, Panthers, Saints, Bucs, Cardinals, Rams and Seahawks

>>67016439
No, it means that unlike Rodgers, Eli knew how to get rid of the ball quickly instead of scrambling like a dipshit and getting sacked constantly and having his fanboys cry that his O-line sucks like Rodgers fans do.
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>>67016443
Take a pic with a football on the top shelf
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>>67016450
>His stats say otherwise,

I like you you spout that, but wont back it up
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>>67016484
So last year Eli was an OBJ baby?

Gotcha

Top 5 WR makes mediocre QB look good. More news @ 11
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>>67016443
are you really a prince?
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/football/2015/09/09/meet-iowa-state-player-who-actually-nigerian-prince/71927218/
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>>67016486
I'm not there now, that was for a prospect camp from about a week ago.
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>>67016274
>slightly better than Rodgers in Aaron's "off year"
wow,
it's
fucking
nothing

>>67016395
whoops yeah missed that. it only helps the "Eli will never be #1 in career picks" argument though.
Regardless, Eli is the pick machine of his era, like it or not. linear projections aren't exactly a great predictor, but Eli's averaged 16-17 a year, and, barring this "McAdoo Magic", would be on pace to barely scratch the top 10 overall if he plays long enough.
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>>67016514
And Rodgers is a Jordy Nelson baby by that logic.
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>>67016514
>stats

I just did. His stats are on par with goats through his first 5 years. The playoffs thing is a legit criticism but his regular season numbers are elite.
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>>67016518
Yes but it's actually not as big of a deal that you think. I'm waaaay back in the line in terms of succession so barring a s bloody coup I'd never actually take the throne of the Oki region
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>>67016527
>Slightly
>More TDs
>Better completion
>Shit ton more yards
>better than the pitiful 6.7 YPA
>More TDs
>Better Passer Rating
>Slightly
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>>67016540
Meant for >>67016517
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>>67016546
>his regular season numbers are elite.

Prove it
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>>67016563
So Eli with a Top 5 WR barely manages to have a better year than Rodgers who had a down year with no top WR

Gotcha.

Eli should put that on a plaque
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>>67016593
The internet is hard
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>>67016417
>dalton
L O L
>>67016435
Because i asked nicely
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>>67016614
0/10
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>>67016627
Memes
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>>67015994
>PHI:Report: Sam Bradford likely to request trade
I want off Lurie's Wild Ride too
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>>67016641
>gets btfo
> le 0/10 hurrr meme

Stoolers fans are mentally retarded
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>>67016614
>The internet is hard

It is hard, especially when you cant back up your own statements
Stats from 3 years ago dont mean shit, especially when you are claiming he is top ten going into this season.

Show me some current stats instead of spouting "ELITE ELITE"

>>67016679
The only mentally retarded person is you thinking that a stat bubble which is irrelevant to him as a QB today would prove your point.

How about I call Foles elite and show stats from a few seasons ago!
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>>67016155
Complete Shit: The List â„¢
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>>67016679
>imblying I'm a Shittsburgh/AFCN fan
we all know why that graphic is retarded
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Mayock has Ramsey going to SD and Bosa going to DAL.
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>>67016699
He was the top rated passer for much of last season, genius. Then he got injured.

Did you miss literally all of last season?
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>>67016717
>irrefutable stats
>"retarded"

Well, we're obviously done here.
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>>67016724
>He was the top rated passer for much of last season, genius.

Should be real easy to get some stat lines that compared to the elite would put in the top ten then!
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>>67016722
wow same as every other yahoo whos made a mock draft
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>>67016727
>Broncos won the Super Bowl
no way. wowee. that must have been some game with Peyton Manning playing QB
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>there are actually people that are debating weather or not the autismo interception machine is a good QB

rofl he isn't even the 2nd best QB in his division roflmao kek

inb4 butthurt replies trying to change the subject
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hmm which one of these super bowl winning qb's isn't like the others
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>>67016763
0/10

It's like I'm arguing with a refrigerator
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>>67016748
The irrefutable stats you posted are in the context of, "peyton manning was shit his first couple of seasons and then turned into an elite QB, dont give up on Dalton yet"
Not that Dalton is a good QB

>>67016799
No, its the fact that the stats dont back you up so you are grasping at straws
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>>67016796
Aaron Rodgers cause he's gay.
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>>67016815
>every good QB posts literally HOF numbers from his very first snap

You really are clueless aren't you?
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>>67016827
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>>67016842
Dalton has had 5 seasons, is that not enough grooming and play time to put up good stats?
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>>67016864
Here ya go, señor autismoto
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>>67016864
>25 TDS to just 7 Ints
>7.9 YPA
>66% completion
>10-3 Record

but that's a shit stat year according to you
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>>67016001
pick in the 2017 Draft will belong to Detroit.
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>>67016901
>Russell Wilson
>No. 1
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>>67016901
Nice list, I see that Cutler is close to overtaking Rodgers!

>>67016908
>but that's a shit stat year according to you

Now its like IM talking to a refridgerator. I never said shit about his stats.
I have merely asked you to back up your own argument by posting stats.
What do you do?

Fight and argue, and then when you finally do post stats you show no context between other players.

You are stupid
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>>67016796
>It's Eli's fault he played in Gilbrides antiqued 1980s offense.
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Other than the defensive line, linebackers, and safety, do the Falcons have any weak spots?
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>>67016984
>damage control
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Jags season ticket holder here. I don't know who we should go for. We need help at linebacker but Myles' knee worries me. Is Bosa better? What if Jalen is available at the 5th pick? Or would Shaq Lawson be better since we need an edge rusher?
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>>67017003
Damage control?
Are you really this retarded?

Have you really made your point by showing NO context to your stats at all?
He is a top ten QB this year because of last years stats, yet you cant show that?
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>>67016070
It'll be hard to draft him with no first right pick
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>>67017022
>Jags season ticket holder here.
Sorry for your loss. :(
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>>67016985
>Eli played in a flawed system despite that system winning superbowls

Get out you homer
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>>67017029
Your brain is literally incapable of logic.
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>>67017022
>Jags season ticket holder

How much did it cost you?
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>>67017052
>>67017069

It's not too bad. $800 for 7 home games (in the US) at a good section by midfield.
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>>67017063
His first SB was his defense. The second SB was Eli playing against his horrible defense. 2011 was the one time where Gilbride's offense wasn't shit.
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>>67017064
Yes of course.
Posting stats with literally nothing to compare them to is a great argument.

The burden of proof is on you, yet you expect me to sift through stats.
Thats your job faggot, especially if you want anyone to take you seriously

You have such conviction in Datlon being top ten, yet you wont show it. Yet YOUR logic was that an irrelavent stat blurb from 3 years ago was sufficient.

Im working with a genius here!
I dont even hate Dalton
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>>67016901
>9 (nine) to 17 (seventeen)
So who was worse, 2015 Peypey or Trent Dilfer?
>>67016984
Packers did have somewhat of an off year, in addition to having tough schedule, and Cutler had a great year under gase.
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>>67017100
>nothing to compare them to
>literally every QB is listed

You really are retarded.
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>>67017197
Oh, the list that says Josh McCown played better than Aaron Rodgers?

I guess that settles it then!
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Clowney is elite
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>>67017237
>post his first 3 seasons

"Oh that's irrelevant now"

>post last season's stats

"hurr one season means nothing"

Just stop posting.
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>>67017287
>post stats that are arranged in a way that is not indicative of overall season.
>low completions , average PCT, low yards
>higher passer rating due to lower games played

>thinking you are smart

There is a reason Passer Rating and QBR arent the sole rating of a QB, just looking at the list proves it.
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>>67017087
Eli was playing a pass defense barely better than his own team's in 46. That Pats secondary was total ass and full of the rookies that made the past few great seasons possible.
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>>67017359
/yawn
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>>67017381
You remind me of the Bears fans who posted all the season ending injury stats of Cutler.
They looked alright in terms of "well he didnt play all the games!"

Dalton is pretty much the new Cutler anyways
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>>67017362
*rookies that matured and made the past few great seasons possible
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You have to be hit by the player you'd be most afraid to be tackled by (past or present) for a million dollars.

Whatever player you pick is in their absolute prime.

Who do you pick?
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>>67017463
Deion Sanders
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>>67017362
No, what I mean was the Eli had to overcome his horrible defense in 2011.
>inb4 but they had sacks

They couldn't stop the pass to save their lives.
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>>67017463
Ronnie Lott
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>>67017499
he did, yeah, and I'm saying the Pats had to do the same thing; Tom was lucky to have the greatest single-season TE combo in history while Eli wasn't.
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>>67017558

If we're talking about a hit running a route going across the middle of the field, fuck that million.
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>>67017463

Clowney
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>>67017463
>you're an NFL quarterback for the Browns
>you have the weakest offensive line in the NFL (except for Joe Thomas)
>across from you are Lawrence Taylor and Dick Butkus, and they're getting ready to absolutely murder you

What do you do, /nfl/?
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>>67017463
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>>67016155

> no Luck

When will yall ever learn?...
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>>67016130
>the ravens are coming back stronger and will finish with a 10-6 record

and still miss the playoffs :)
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>>67017584
WAKE ME UP
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>>67017463
Brian Dawkins
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>>67016758

>vikings
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>>67017629
Less than 142 days.
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>>67017577
I was just thinking he'd be the player i'd be most afraid of getting hit by in his prime. As long as I was in pads i'd take the hit for a million.
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pls reggie
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Who /readyfordraftday/ here?

>browns front office
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>>67017674
>FB Glenn Gronkowski
oh hey Bill...
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>>67017558
this, or Jerome Harrison.

Lott played with part of his finger cut off in a playoff game. He was fucking nuts.
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>>67017695
Cleveland will make a good decision with the 8th pick.

Probably Bosa, Buckner, or Jack.
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>>67017670
that would cover your medical bills.
maybe
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12 years ago today, Pat Tillman was killed by the US government because he was going to come back home and be very anti war with his fame.

It wasnt accidently friendly fire.
Nowadays tons of vets go off about how ignorant the war was/is and how they shouldnt be there.
The USA was still pro war at that time, couldnt have him being a big NFL star coming back and spouting the truth about the war.
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>>67017725
Oh I don't deny they are doing the right thing this time ... just sick of brand new fiver year plans every three years. Been doing that for too long now.

Plus they will be >0-16 this year
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>>67017725
Its pretty hard to make a bad pick in the top ten (granted the QB picks which always are hit and miss)
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>>67017463
Ty Law. I'd hug him and ask for some autographed merch afterwards
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>>67017725
If Myles Jack stays healthy and you guys take him, you're getting an absolute steal.

Kinda weird both him AND Jaylon Smith were the most highly touted LBs in the draft and yet have injury troubles that could make or break their career.
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Come to papa
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Think Tom Brady could squeeze one last glorious season out of Andre Johnson?

I feel bad how he's going out.
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>>67017777
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>>67017629
He's going to get a season ending injury that will affect him for the rest of his life.
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>>67017795
I want to think so. I also want to think he could do it with Randy Moss, but I don't think either of those things are happening.

>captcha Vancouver CUNNINGHAM
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>>67017751
>>67017737
Could the Browns pick a huge bust in the top ten?

I mean the top prospects seem really, really solid this year
>Bosa
>Buckner
>Ramsey
>Tunsil
>Jack
>Hargreaves
>Shaq Lawson
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>>67017737
>mfw browns go 1-15 and get the #1
>the eagles go 3-12 and the brows get the #3 pick
>they trade away both from even more picks the next year
>they get 5 picks in the top 10 in 2018
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>>67017888
nice trips

the Browns will find a way, though
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>>67017892
And then all 5 of those picks turn out to be busts.
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>>67017892
>they keep trading picks so that by 2025 they have all the picks for the first and second rounds, beginning a Browns Dynasty
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>>67017776
>loins
>meme tackle that's incredibly overrated
sounds about right
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>>67017977
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>>67017771

Some poetry there too. Jaylon's struggle is when will he begin his NFL career while Myles' is how many seasons will he be able to play at the NFL level. How long will it be until Jaylon's nerves heal, and how long until Myles' cartilage erodes.
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>>67016796
Brees cuz he's a Manlet
>>
FROM

OUT

OF

NOWHERE
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>>67017463
Aaron Hernandez desu
Or Steve smith for a real response
And then the real real response Reggie white gonna take my life
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>>67018175
DO IT REDSKINS
OBJ VS NORMEME
TWICE
A
YEAR
DO IT
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>>67018156
but so is wilson
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>>67018175
>the Saints are going to saddle themselves with yet another huge contract for yet another aging defensive back
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>>67018175
The Saints are broke how are they going to pay for this?
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>>67018175
kek arent they still stuck in salary cap hell?
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>>67016361

TYBC
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>>67015994
I'm so conflicted about that throw. The accuracy is nice but the mechanic to that throw and the way the ball looks in the air is suspect
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>>67018188
>>67018210
>>67018230
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>>67017558
>>67017577


Would NOPE the fuck outta there.
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>>67017965
they still have an All Pro they might trade before it's over.
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>>67018277
>implying you can outrun Lott.
>implying it wouldn't just piss him off.

Better to take a clean hit to the helmet and instant no pain.
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>>67017463
If I die, does my family get the money?
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>>67018273
If the Saints pull this move it's going to be the one true sign that Mickey Loomis has turned into a senile old man on the level of old Al Davis.
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>>67018210
dem bonuses mang
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>>67018301
you would know how this guy felt.
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>>67018175
PLEASE
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>>67018308
>Saints get good defense but Brees arm FINALLY deteriorates
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>>67018308
>you shouldn't sign a top-tier player that you desperately need because you don't have much cap space
Protip: the Lombardi Trophy is not handed out to the team with the most cap space each year.
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>>67018367
protip: no team is ever "one player" away from a SB. not even an aging CB
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>>67018367
Except Norman alone isn't going to fix the Saints' defense, or even their entire team.
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>>67018273
Please, please, Norman, let your pride override your financial sense. Don't take a mega-contract from Snyder, come to Nawlins so you can get payback against Carolina twice a year.
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>>67018409
>less money
>worse team
>tougher division
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>>67018183
wilson has bbc to compensate
>>67018273
literally who can they cut to not incur any more lmaodeadmoney and save up the about 13m necessary to sign him not to mention they will need like 5 more to sign draft picks
they have like 30m+ dead money while the league average is like 12
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>>67018401
>no team is ever "one player" away from a SB
Except for pretty much every year when the Owl isn't an unmitigated blowout.

>>67018405
>Except Norman alone isn't going to fix the Saints' defense, or even their entire team.
Their defense doesn't need to be good, just needs to not be epically terrible so they can keep Brees within striking distance.
>>
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>>67018426
Which tells you how pissed he is at Carolina to even listen to NO's offer instead of just taking the Snyderbux.
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>>67018438
>every year when the Owl isn't an unmitigated blowout
Super Bowl 48 would like a word with you
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>>67018472
>you
>reading comprehension
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>>67018487
>>67018487
i dont think you understand the words you're typing
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>>67018438
Brees window is nearing the end, it's now or never. can't blame them for going for norman.
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>>67018438
Have you forgotten that the Saints are a mess on offense, too? Their offensive line is lackluster, and outside of Brandin Cooks their receiving corps is a joke. The Saints need a fucking rebuild, they're not one player away.

It would be ironic if Loomis did this while bidding against the Redskins, because it's literally what Snyder used to do ALL THE TIME. The whole team would be a mess, but every season there was that one free agent that he'd bring in on a big contract promising it would save the day.

He SEEMS to have learned his lesson now. If Norman gets too expensive the Skins will let the Saints have him. I hope.
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>>67018504
>still hasn't figured it out yet
>already preparing his blame whitey defense
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>>67018534
oh i get it now, you're being retarded on purpose. glad to know this wasn't mean tot be serious
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>>67018529
>Have you forgotten that the Saints are a mess on offense, too?
AYY LMAO. Top 5 in yards 9/10 years (1st x4). Top 10 in points 8/10 years (top 5 x5). Last year 2nd in yards, 8th in points. You'd take a gallon of pos cum in the ass for your team to have a "mess" like that on offense.

>Their offensive line is lackluster,
It's good enough to get the job done. Probably the best OL in the division.

>and outside of Brandin Cooks their receiving corps is a joke.
Brees can make any dickhead off the street look like a good receiver. He turned a 220lbs FCS TE into the leading receiver in franchise history.

>The Saints need a fucking rebuild, they're not one player away.
>tearing up the roster when your stud QB still has gas in the tank
lol

>The whole team would be a mess, but every season there was that one free agent that he'd bring in on a big contract promising it would save the day.
The difference is the Redskins haven't been a serious contender in at least 15 years. The Saints still have the magic ingredient.
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>>67018567
>i ken reed gud whyt boi shud yo trap fo i cap yo azz
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>>67018567
>STILL doesn't get it
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>>67018820
>i have no argument so i'll type like i have down syndrome
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>>67018853
>I can't read for shit so I'll just keep claiming that I can
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>>67018852
get what? you said something stupid and i called you out on it. am i supposed to get that you're literally retarded and are obsessed with memeposting?
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Hey dad look at me
Think back and talk to me
Did I grow up according to plan?
And do you think I'm wasting my time doing things I wanna do?
But it hurts when you disapprove all along

And now I try hard to make it
I just wanna make you proud
I'm never gonna be good enough for you
Can't pretend that
I'm alright
And you can't change me

'Cause we lost it all
Nothing lasts forever
I'm sorry
I can't be perfect
Now it's just too late and
We can't go back
I'm sorry
I can't be perfect

I try not to think
About the pain I feel inside
Did you know you used to be my hero?
All the days you spent with me
Now seem so far away
And it feels like you don't care anymore

And now I try hard to make it
I just wanna make you proud
I'm never gonna be good enough for you
I can't stand another fight
And nothing's alright

'Cause we lost it all
Nothing lasts forever
I'm sorry
I can't be perfect
Now it's just too late and
We can't go back
I'm sorry
I can't be perfect

Nothing's gonna change the things that you said
Nothing's gonna make this right again (right again)
Please don't turn your back
I can't believe it's hard
Just to talk to you
But you don't understand (you don't understand)

'Cause we lost it all
Nothing lasts forever
I'm sorry
I can't be perfect
Now it's just too late and
We can't go back
I'm sorry
I can't be perfect

'Cause we lost it all
Nothing lasts forever
I'm sorry
I can't be perfect
Now it's just too late and
We can't go back
I'm sorry
I can't be perfect
>>
>>67018881
you dont even know what you're arguing about anymore do you? you have to le internet pride to admit it
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>>67016509
>49ers
pls don't fuck it up.
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>>67018885
>get what?
That you misread the post you drooling ape.
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>>67018925
There is no hope for the 9ers.
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>>67018915
Not arguing, highlighting what an illiterate nigger you are.
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>>67018937
but i didnt i even quoted your post ypu illiterate stooge
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>>67018969
>I-I was replying to a post about someone who's not me.
loooool ok
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>>67019054
you're one dumb motherfucker anybody ever tell you that? congratz on baiting me into giving you so many (you)s
>>
>>67019079
>yo whyt boi fukk u an yo fancy talk bish
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>>67018945
I think next season we're fucked no matter what, but depending on what happens right now it will determine the severity of how bad we are fucked.
>>
HERE

WE

GO

LADIES

AND

GENTLEMEN
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>>67019140
Do they even have the money?
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good bye normans career
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As a saints fan all I can say is that if Mickey fucking Loomis somehow makes this happens, this will be the move that finally either sets the team in flames and get's him fired by Mr. Senile, or gets him an 800 year contract extension.

[spoiler]I'm feeling the former[/spoiler]
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5 YEARS

75 MILLION
>>
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 48s48 seconds ago
Josh Norman has signed a 5-year contract with the #Redskins worth $75M, source said.

>still payed less than suh
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>>67019225
Ross is the new Snyder.
>>
THANK YOU BASED JEWBOY DAN, THE NFL CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON YOU TO SAVE TEAMS FROM MAKING MASSIVE MISTAKES WITH MONEY.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS
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>>67019225
>5-year contract with the #Redskins worth $75M

Does that make him the highest paid CB?
>>
Draft LB rankings, top players per spot.

WILL LB
>1. Jaylon Smith
>2. Miles Jack
>3. Leonard Floyd
>4. Su'a Cravens

MIKE LB:
>1. Deion Jones
>2. Joshua Perry
>3. Nick Vigil

SAM LB:
>1. Leonard Floyd
>2. Jaylon Smith
>3. Miles Jack

Notable exclusions:
>Darron Lee
Will make his money as a coverage/nickle linebacker, but his skills do not translate to being an every down WILL or SAM LB in the NFL. His biggest weaknesses are fighting blocks and tackling. He gets lost in the mess in the middle of the field and doesn't effectively fight his way to the ball carrier. His speed makes him useful as an extra blitzer and a extra body to cover receivers, and that's where he'll be utilized.

>Reggie Ragland
Still a 2nd round lock, but Ragland is purely a 2-down thumper. He was frequently substituted out of 3rd down packages at Alabama, and lacks the speed to play more than 2 downs. Very, very effective against the inside run, definitely the best at doing that, but the inside run isn't nearly as used in the NFL as it is in college. He also becomes a liability against zone run teams in the NFL.
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>@RapSheet
Josh Norman has signed a 5-year contract with the #Redskins worth $75M, source said.


> POST YFW BECKHAM V NORMAN IS NOW TWICE A YEAR BATTLE
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>>67019236
no snyder is still snyder dumbass.

this is a terrible signing that you only make when you are a player away
>>
JUST
U
S
T
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>>67019269
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>>67019269
it's fucking on
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>>67019191
Yeah once they restructure cully or cut him and cut andre roberts cause he's useless
>>
50 MILLION GUARANTEED
>>
>75 MILLION
>>
->6'7" 410 lbs TE LaQuan McGowan enters the draft

That has Pats written all over it
>>
ill be damned tho, I didnt think anybody would give him the money he was asking for

Panthers playoffs second round exit?
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>>67019314
thats actually the more telling number. that is a lot
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mfw Romo and Dez embarrass the ever living shit out of Norman and the deadskins
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>>67019269
>tfw no more watching Norman being Julio's bitch
sad times
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>>67019271
>never pay a good player in his prime when you have cap space
>>
>>67019405
>1 (one, uno) elite year
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>>67019402
But we get Norman versus OBJ twice a season.
>>
>Dez and Norman chimp-outs

Who's ready?
>>
>>67019402
how does it feel to watch a team lake that actually can win a playoff game?
>>
So what the fuck are the 49ers going to use all their money on? They have nobody due a big payday and they aren't doing anything in FA.
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>>67019372
>pants
>playoffs
>>
>$50mil guaranteed
>vs OBJ x2 a year
>all them fucking flags incoming

Week 3 will be the first ejection from personal fouls
>>
Jesus, is Norman REALLY worth that much?
>>
>>67019425
true but as a Falcons fan, this is a disaster
>>
>>67019424
He was good the year before as well, but no one knew who he was. Film never lies, he's a top-tier corner who will net wins for them.
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>>67019473
nah but it's the ***skins what did you expect
>>
>>67019473
It's $10m/year guaranteed, that's actually pretty reasonable for an elite CB right now. That's less than he would've gotten from Carolina's franchise tender.
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>>67019268
Deion Jones looks like a Will in a 4-3 to me.
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>>67019516
>Elite CB
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>>67019268
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>>67019546
like a giants fan would know anything about that lol
>>
>>67019516
>Elite
>>
>>67019561
Dominique Rodgers Cromartie.
>>
>>67019546
>I slept through last season, what happened guys?
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>>67019580
considering how the giants did thats probly true
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>>67019580
>one good season, in a good system = elite
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>>67019269
>>
>signing a system babby defensive player for an assload of money
>Washington

When will they learn?
>>
ITT fans of teams cucked by ELIte

>Packfags
>Cowfags
>Iggles "fans"
>Washingtonfags
>Bradyfags
>>
>>67019575
>Elite CB
fucking kek
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>>67019269
>Someone actually signed that nigger for $75 million
Would have been the icing on the cake if the Iggles came out of nowhere and did it.
>>
>>67019621
>1
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>>67019570
>top graded CB for most of last season
>scheme that placed him in tons of 1-on-1 situations
>not elite
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>>67019575
>he actually has been asleep since 2011
oh shit

>>67019621
>good system
System that put him in tons of 1-on-1 situations.
>>
>>67019665
>havent even won their division since 2011
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>>67019526
I think he can play both, but when played at ILB he did well. I also think that he has some issues at wlb flipping the hips and changing direction at times. At ILB those issues are mitigated a bit.

>>67019559
lol
>>
>>67019662
>press-heavy, 3 and 3special-heavy system
>system babby
Found the casual.
>>
>Buzzwords from people who don't know what they're talking about

sure is ESPN in here
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>marco barrel is still a patriot
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>>67019845
>wahh people have opinions i dont like

sure is mad in here
>>
>>67019814
>playing almost strictly zone

System babby
>>
>>67019845
>Maddenbabby triggered by people using basic football terminology
>alludes to ESPN as if this isn't where Maddenbabbies like himself congregate for meaningless, easily digestible soundbites
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>>67015994
>Watson will most likely leave next year
Fuck the NFL and their money, man
>>
In /sp/'s eyes Darrelle Revis is the only good corner this decade
>>
>>67019928
>all zone coverages are the same

>real men play press 0 the entire game
No one does this, because you would get BTFO in today's league. Even if you have a freak like Peterson or prime Revis they'll only play true man maybe a little over half the time.
>>
>>67019679
too bad we dont have the money to do so
lmfao stupid eagles hater cuck
>>
What is it like to have a white franchise QB?

I don't know that feel.
>>
>>67020035
Reminder /sp/ doesn't know shit about football
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>>67020096
Like a hot shower after practice. It's a very nice feel, bro.
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>>67020096
Its pretty good, no memes involved classic QB play style
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>>67020152
>no memes involved
>>
>surprise player you think will drop out of the 1st round
>surprise player you think will get drafted in the 1st
>your favorite Prince song

Reggie Ragland
Deion Jones
When Doves Cry
>>
>>67020264
kill yourself
>>
>>67020264
kill yourself
>>
>>67020264
kill yourself
>>
>>67020264
football in ass
football in ass
I Would Die 4 U
>>
>>67019746
>Only team in the division to win a SB (2) in the last 20 years
>>
>>67020264
F

I

A
>>
>>67020264
football in ass
>>
>>67020264
There are going to be no surprise players dropping out of the 1st
>listening to prince
>>
why does everyone think Norman sucks?
>>
>>67020264
>ragland
>surprise
'no'
PIGSKIN
IN
POOPER
OR FAILCONS GO 0-16
>>
>>67020367
>>67020328
>>67020308
>>67020287
>hating on Prince
confirmed faggots, all of you
>>
>>67020392
No one here actually watches football
>>
>>67019974
>implying "he was only good for one year" is football terminology and not top level casualness from people who only payed attention to the Panthers when they started winning
>>
>the city of lakes prolapsed anus
>>
>>67020392
/sp/ knows fuck all about football
>>
>People seriously don't think Odell is gonna expose the shit out of Norman again.
>>
>>67020392
He doesnt suck
He is pretty good

He has also been slightly above average and not elite his whole career until last year (in a really strong system), and he is not young

You dont drop a huge amount of money on an old player who is essentially unproven
>>
>$75 MILLION DEAL
>$50 MILLION GUARANTEED

lmao what the fuck.

Well, I hope Jags take Ramsey now instead of Jack in the draft. Can't wait for next week.
>>
>>67020412
>top level casualness from people who only payed attention to the Panthers when they started winning

All you have to do is look at his stats bro
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>this thread

Get it together you homos
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>>67020412
Why in the fuck would anyone care about the Panthers before they went 15-1?
>>
>2 games a year of obj vs norman

might be kool
>>
People who don't recognize Norman has been elite for two seasons now are casuals. He will be elite for at least next season then he'll just stop trying because he's already paid.
>>
Why does Bradford want a trade? He's going to make a shit load of money this year and he's clearly very frugal with it. I saw him driving around town in a late 2000s Honda Civic before.

Why not just cash out with the Eagles and then try to get money elsewhere later on?
>>
>>67020524
imagine if he went to the naners though

>the qb of the los angeles rams would have to face norman, peterson and sherman twice a year each
>>
>>67020474
He's rated out as a top 5 corner the last two years.

The only real issue is if his age is a problem, or if Washington just uses him retardedly. "System baby" means jack shit because most players who are good are benefiting from what they're running and who else is on that side of the ball. There's always going to be issues when changing teams.

and the money isn't that big a deal. the Cap gets higher so naturally "HIGHEST PAID _____ EVER" happens every fucking year. He's got a 3 year deal with the last two as options I think.
>>
>>67020524
redskins just need to bring some bats to the pregame field and they get two free wins KEK
>>
>>67020528
even if he's elite for next season that won't justify a 5 year contract unless they win the owl that season
>>
dam...
>>
>>67020581
>Peterson
>Good
>>
>>67020590
You do know Odell beat Norman in that game right?
>>
>>67020578
>waste prime years on rams
>waste another in philly

could be his last chance to start fresh on a decent team.
>>
>>67015994

>Bradford hot that people finally realizes he's made of glass
>>
>>67020620
>moose fuckers
>smart
>>
>>67020642
you do know the gnats lost that game right?
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>>67020581
Not a problem
>>
>>67020681
You know the Panthers blew a 24 point lead in that game and if it wasn't for the shitty defense, we would have taken the momentum to OT and we would have won the game.
>>
>rewatching the 2014 saints/seahawks divisional game
>mfw percy harvin slams into the back of doug baldwin on a jet sweep play

what a fucking piece of shit, and it wasn't like he was fighting for extra yards or anything he just fucking launched himself at the last second into the back of baldwin
>>
>>67020704
hey i made this
>>
>>67020707
>i-ifs and butts
>we actually won
lol
>>
>>67020592
Oh I think it's ridiculous he got that much guaranteed and a 5yr contract, just he's elite at the moment so understandably teams would do this.
>>
>>67020505
they got to a SB before, so there's that
>>
>>67020761
so did the vikings yet nobody cares about them
>>
>>67020264
>dunno, don't really consider Ragland a surprise
>Dak Prescott
>I'm straight
>>
If Captain Kirk can go maximum warp for another season the Redskins might actually make some noise in the playoffs.
>>
>>67020707
what-ifs wont change that they only won six games
>>
>>67020785
there are vikings trips so obviously some people care about them
>>
>>67020729
Good job son.
>>
>>67020833
<3
>>
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>>67020831
pretty sure they're all either foreigners or that brony faggot so they dont count
>>
>>67020882
Teddy was okay

lions trips are the only good nfcn trip bunch imo
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>>67020449
>slightly above average
He was damn good in 2014, that's what got people paying attention to him in the first place.

>really strong system
lol, explain this. It is a pretty conventional system, why would it be stronger in Carolina than in, say, Baltimore? Do you just mean they had a good defense? Well no shit, Norman had a ton to do with that.

>unproven
>1st team all pro and one of the highest graded players in the League last year
Just lol.
>>
>>67020882
there's multiple bronies, the Ravens trip Sam Koch Fan Club is one as well iirc

>>67020959
agreed, Lions trips are best trips from NFCN
>>
>>67020451
If anything $10m/year guaranteed is a good deal for a top tier CB. He would've gotten more if he let the Panthers tag him, and the tag is the average of the top 5 players at your position.
>>
>>67020620
>best corner in the game
>not good
>>
>>67021041
>>67020620
why is /sp/ so tsundere about Patrick Peterson?
>>
The Redskins have a decent pass rush too, if they do a good job in the draft they could have a pretty beastly defense. McCloughan seems to be trying to rebuild Harbaugh's Niners.
>>
>>67021069
A lot of casuals here who don't know anything about him except that he had a down year the year before last.
>>
>Redskins sign Norman to a 5yr/75mil deal

That is fucking hilarious. I guess him trolling OBJ will make it at least somewhat worthwhile I guess. But burning that much cap space on a CB when your team is mediocre across the board and made the playoffs solely because Romo was ded is a typical Synder kneejerk move.
>>
>>67020096

It's nice to have a quarterback that's not butthurt after a loss.
>>
I hope dallas drafts hackenberg
>>
>>67021154
stupid wannabe tranny freak fuck , get the FUck off my board
>>
it's a risky signing but if he can give them 2 elite years and 1 decent one it'll be worth it.

the nfc east is so shit that the redskins can own that division for years if they play their cards right.
>>
>>67021141
see >>67021010
>>
>>67021154
post feet
>>
>>67021154
Would Hackenberg be good after sitting for a few years, or is he just permanently shit?
>>
>>67021179
>Governor of North Carolina posting with a Canacuck flag
?
>>
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>>67021149
Implying brady isnt crying in any fourth quarter he isnt in the lead
>>67021193
Feet? Like these?
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>>67021218
Im more famous around these parts than the govenor of north carolina ;;0
>>
>>67021186
Giants are gonna make a play for the division

tough call between the two
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>>67020969

He wasn't even a fucking starter.
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lmao i just realized the giants have had 2 consecuutive 6-10 seasons. no wonder that tripfag is shitposting so hard
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>>67021192
Remind me what happened to the last "elite" CB that went to the NFC East? Signing Norman doesn't suddenly make this mediocre team a contender, which is what you signed a CB for 10mil+ a year to become.

But its a typical move by the Redskins, but I hope it finally works out for them.
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>>67021219
That is a nice feet

>>67021246
cowboys will win the nfce
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I wont be surprised if.the giants and eagles are both 4-12 next season. Dallas i have no clue. Washington can make a run for 10 wins.
I hope dallas wins tho.
>>67021198
He's a first round prospect. Footwork problems. The texans will dradt him at 22 if he's still there.
>>67021320
Hey thanks. Now post yours.
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>>67021282
>http://www.nfl.com/player/joshnorman/2532920/profile

>2014
>14 G, 10 GS
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>>67021310
On the other hand, we all laughed at the Redskins for the DeSean Jackson signing but that worked out really well for them. Maybe they've gotten smarter.
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>>67021305
6-10 is the ultimate hell record. It's shitty, but it's not TOO shitty, so you also get screwed out of a high draft pick. You're stuck.
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>>67021310
>Remind me what happened to the last "elite" CB that went to the NFC East?
LOL, what does the division have to do with it?

>Signing Norman doesn't suddenly make this mediocre team a contender,
Never said otherwise.

>which is what you signed a CB for 10mil+ a year to become.
Once again, $10m/year guaranteed is standard for a top tier corner. It is literally less than the average of the 5 highest paid CBs currently. He will make their defense better, THAT is what you sign a guy for.
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>>67021320
its gonna be anybody but the cowboys

if the eagles get a good qb they have the best defense in the division and are likely to win it

the redskins are more complete than people realize

the giants have good talent everywhere except oline and linebackers

the cowboys will be starting kellen moore by week 6
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is captain stinkydinky here?
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>>67021383
what are you talking about? the eagles got laughed at for letting him walk for nothing because he threw up a gang sign and wanted a new contract and then he agreed to a very reasonable deal with the skins
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>>67021246

Division Winner and Last-Place Predix

>AFCE
Winner: Patriots
Last-Place: Dolphins

>AFCN
Bengals
Browns

>AFCS
Texans
Titans

>AFCW
Chiefs
Broncos

>NFCE
Cowboys with healthy Romo, 'Skins with ded Romo
Eagles with healthy romo, Cowboys with ded Romo

>NFCN
Packers
Bears

>NFCS
Panthers
Bucs

>NFCW
Cardinals
49ers

>AFC Wild Cards
5. Raiders
6. Colts

>NFC Wild Cards
5. Seahawks
6. Lions
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>>67021463
wentz/goff won't be starting the first year, so unless bradford flashes back to 2009 or gets injured it's not happening
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>>67021501
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000655318/article/cowboys-exec-bosa-will-get-strong-draft-consideration-from-us
>the city of the cowfags who said there was no chance they'll pick nosea
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>>67021632
>believing smokescreens
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>>67021655
>being a jests fan
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>Fake JJ Watt
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Who's better Bosa or Buckner?
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>norman
>50 million guaranteed

Damn, is he even worth it? Good on him for getting that money tho, I don't envy the loins playing against him next season. Are the redskins gonna win the nfc least?
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>>67016155
>>Brady
>Roethlisberger
>Brees
>Romo
>Wilson
>Stafford
>Rodgers
>Cousins
>Palmer
>Carr
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one will play a linebacker and the other will be an elite defensive end

make your choice
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>muh quarterback-driven league

Why do teams keep falling for this meme when the Buncos and Panthers just got to a Super Bowl based mostly on run/defense and the Donkeys actually won the thing despite having an old cripple at QB?
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>THE SHITTY OF WASHINGTON
>MYSIDES
MYSIDES
>MYSIDES
MYSIDES
>MYSIDES
MYSIDES
>MYSIDES
MYSIDES
>50 MILLION GUARANTEED ON A MEME CORNER SYSTEM BABBY CANCER
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>>67021832
>i have no idea what i'm talking about so i'll jam every meme i can into 1 post
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>burn cap space on a CB so you can potentially go one and done in the playoffs again.

Again, its a mediocre team with a BELOW AVERAGE Defense. A DB no matter how good is not going to make a MAJOR impact in terms of improving their defense. So I stand by what i said about signing him, because for all the OTHER issues their D has, investing so much in a player that doesn't improve their front 7 seems misguided.

Now of course, on the flipside, their D could show massive improvement next year and make this whole discussion moot. But I highly doubt that.
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>>67021832
>tebow
>using such foul language ever
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>>67021823
because it's true, ya dingus.
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>Just got done arguing with a nigger on the bus ride home about how the NFL is not rigged against black QBs
Someone firebomb North Carolina please.
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>>67017463
Al Wilson
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>>67021963
Should the NFL implement a rule that all NFL teams have to have a black QB on their roster? to make things more fair racially of course,
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>>67021770
see >>67021010
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>>67021963
>riding the bus

What are you, poor?
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>>67017463
between LT and TJ Ward
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>>67021963
>r-russel wilson doesn't count
>h-he's not really black
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>>67021832
>$50m guaranteed is outrageous money in the NFL
What is this, 2003?
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>>67021535
they both have an exceedingly good chance of starting this year

just cause the eagles said bradford is starting doesnt mean theyll put up with him shitting up the place.

if the eagles rookie pulls a wilson or mariota where the team realises before the end of the preseason that hes legit they aren't starting bradford
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>>67022052
>Patriots just put Tom Brady in blackface
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>>67021885
>investing so much
It's really not that much for a good player at that position. It's less than he would've gotten from being tagged, which pays the average of the top 5 players at your position.
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>>67022052
>Patriots
>ever having a black QB on the roster

>>67022125
my sides
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PFF rated Norman 18th among CBs last year while fitting into a good system and having a strong front 7 so he is likely pretty overrated and overpaid but at least he plays Beckham twice a year now
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can someone post the picture of the guys laughing out their car window?

the one where someone usually accompanies it by saying NICE HAT DORK or something similar
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>>67022235
never heard of it. try 9gag
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>The Bengals, Steelers and Ravens have all had private meetings with Karl Joseph from West Virginia
PITTSBURGH PLEASE DON'T FUCK THIS UP.
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>>67022213
>he is likely pretty overrated and overpaid

2 footballs up ass he Byrd 2.0s there.
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>>67021963

Cam is probably going to get a ton of refball in his favor now that he's the MVP. Anyone who even grazed Rodgers' skin last year got flagged for it.
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>>67022213
>PFF rated Norman 18th among CBs last year
He was 1st all year until a couple bad games at the end of the year.

>while fitting into a good system
What is good about it?

>and having a strong front 7
Against the run, their pass rush was mediocre aside from Short.
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>>67022269
Well meme'd.
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>>67022130
>highest paid cornerback in the game
>its really not that much
>15 is less then 13.9

Do you know something about contracts that NFL GMs and everyone else doesn't? He isn't getting 10mil a year. So I don't know why you and other people keep saying that.
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>>67022350
>fail mary
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>Connor Cook could potentially be a first round draft pick

Didn't know there was such a high demand for 56% passers in the NFL
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>>67022328
>Outside of Pittsburgh the Jets, Giants, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Bills, Cowboys, Bronco's and Vikings have all had private workouts with Karl Joseph
Please god don't
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>>67022396
>15 is less then 13.9
15 is the full amount, not all of it is guaranteed. I'd say its less likely than not that he makes the full $75m, guys usually don't.

>Do you know something about contracts that NFL GMs and everyone else doesn't?
Apparently I know something that you don't.

>He isn't getting 10mil a year.
He's guaranteed $10m/year. How much more than that he ends up actually getting is anyone's guess.
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>>67022439
If he is it will unequivocally prove that race is a major factor in how teams evaluate QBs. Prescott is the best QB in this draft yet at least 3 others will come off the board before him. Cook will never do shit in the League.
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>>67022504
it doesn't matter if it's not guaranteed if you actually plan on ya know, keeping him on the roster. what matters is the cap hit.
>>
If guaranteed money is all that really matters in NFL contracts (these aren't like NBA and MLB where "5 years 75 million" would actually mean he gets $75 million), why don't they make ridiculous contract offers, like 5 years, $1 billion with $50 million guaranteed and just pay him his regular salary until the final year where it "shows" that he will earn $920 million base salary but they just void the contract?

that would be awesome
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>>67022593
>you now remember Teddy T was picked after Manziel

I'm sure there's tons of other examples too
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>>67022707
>I'm sure there's tons of other examples too
Russell Wilson
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>>67022328
is he good?
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>>67022638
And the cap hit will be worth taking unless he completely flops.
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>>67022707
Well there was that Brady guy.
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>>67022677
whats the point in this?
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>>67022720
>Weeden was picked two rounds ahead of Russ

I'm sure the height stigma had a bit to do with that as well but jesus fucking christ
>>
Who is the GOAT black quarterback?
>>
>>67022863
>russ

fuck off 12
>>
Likelyhood of Lynch going 3rd in the Draft?


the 9ers are stupid enough to trade for him
>>
>>67022883
warren moon
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>>67022851
a player being a diva and wanting to be selfish as fuck so he gets the "largest contract in sports history"
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>>67022883
Cam Newton
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>>67022720
>>67022863
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>>67022890
>12

not even close
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>>67022930
but it doesn't mean shit if he doesnt get the money
then another team will just sign the next nigger to a trillion dollar deal with 100k per year for 5 years 1 trillion due after the end of the 5th year no guarantee
>>
>Raiders in Wild Card
At the very least that's what I hope for. Anything less and I'll probably an hero.
>>
>you now remember dion jordan
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>>67022930
speaking of diva's, i wonder if the giants are going to be able to afford beckham at the rate their spending.
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>>67022728
The second best safety in the draft, would be a top 20 pick if not for injuries
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>>67022883
1. Warren Moon
2. Cam Newton
3. Russell Wilson
4. Randall Cunningham
t5. Donovan McNabb
t5. Daunte Culpepper
7. Michael Vick
8. Steve McNair
9. Jason Campbell
10. David Garrard
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>>67016001
Or you could just take off your fucking hat and not look like an asshole. Just got married and they're wearing fucking sports-style caps. Christ.
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>>67023083
BECKHAM BECOMES A UFA IN 2018

49ERS MAY HAVE LIKE 200 MILLION IN CAP SPACE

YES YES YES
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>>67023075
>The Broncos will always own that division

B U T T F U M B L E
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>>67023120
>Air Mcnair not on the same level as Daunte
>Vick above Mcnair
>Campbell above Garrard
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>>67022504
>Refuses to sign 13.92mil franchise tag
>Refuses to sign multi-year 11mil/yr contract
>team needs to create cap space to stay under the salary cap which they had a little under 11.5mil in space before this deal

The fact you think the bulk of the guaranteed money isn't front loaded into the first 2 years of his contract is hilarious. He wanted 15-16mil a year, and considering he got the most guaranteed money of any CB in NFL history, I'd hazard a guess and say he fought to get his 15mil/yr for the 1st 2 and then took a more cap friendly hit the final 3 years with the final year being heavy incentive driven.

This is my assumption, because he'd have to be retarded to tie so many incentives into his contact going to a defense that was below average against the pass and pressuring the QB year
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>>67022883

In terms of impact on the game and overall stats? Warren Moon.

My favorite? Steve McNair.
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>>67023141
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>>67023075
How are you gonna tell me the Raiders are trash? They can easily compete with the Chiefs and Broncos next year for top spot in the AFCw.
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>>67023141
>responding to a post nearly 6 hours after it was posted
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>>67023219
Staffs wife is fine as hell, I bet she's got a fantastic pair hidden under that shirt
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>We get to see OBJ vs Norman 2 times a year now

I can't wait. The memes will be nuclear
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>>67023219
She's average in San Diego at best
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>>67022883
the one in your post
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>>67023100
>safety in the top 20
I'm skeptical, who's the best safety in the draft then?
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>>67023184
>Air Mcnair not on the same level as Daunte
Probably underrated him a little because of the offense he played in.

>Vick above Mcnair
Vick was a better passer and runner than McNair, of course he's better.

>Campbell above Garrard
Campbell is underrated, he wasted his best years playing for dumpster fire organizations.
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>>67023288
Thanks for the solid analysis.
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>>67023277
>
>>67023345
Fuck off Felipe
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>>67023364
Ramsey
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>>67023386
Still average. Sorry detoilet
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>>67023412
oh ok I thought he was a corner for some reason
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>>67023192
>team needs to create cap space to stay under the salary cap which they had a little under 11.5mil in space before this deal
After this year they still have plenty of space.

>The fact you think the bulk of the guaranteed money isn't front loaded into the first 2 years of his contract is hilarious.
I'm sure it is, hence it will be easier to get rid of him once he hits 30.
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Someone red pill me on Wentz. I want to feel happy again.
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>>67023460
He plays both but fits better as a safety
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>>67023120
>Wilson even top 5
the fuck outta here, 12fag

1. Randall Cunningham
2. Warren Moon
3. Donovan McNabb
4. Michael Vick
5. Steve McNair
6. Daunte Culpepper
7. Russell Wilson
8. Cam Newton
9. David Garrard
10. Doug Williams
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>>67017965
This would be the most genius thing ever.
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>>67023386
Damn nice headlights
>>67023446
Ok, what do you consider above average?
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>>67023386
Seriously Canada, both my exes from my days in SD had a better face and you can buy a pair of titties anywhere. He shopped low. She's not ugly, just not hot.
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>>67022883
>that sexy af helmet
mirrin
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>>67023485
you'll have a franchise QB who isnt sam bradford
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>>67023503
>a Bradyfag disregarding rings

Well that's a first
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>>67023485
He's the definition of an AFCN QB, but you're not in the AFCN
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>>67017965
>every one of their picks still busts
>>
>>67023503
>vick above mcnair

vick is so overrated, he had great hightlights but he was so shitty sometimes.
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>>67017965
>the Browns still fuck it up
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>>67023503
why isn't warren moon #1 you fucking casual
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>>67023277
https://www.instagram.com/p/_AHcQ4Kd5z/?taken-by=kbstafford89&hl=en
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>>67021721
Depends on the defenses needs
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>>67023518
I never asked
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>>67023518
>>67023345
Fuck are you on about, San Diego is packed full of Mexicans, they have plenty of downright monsters down there.
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>>67023518
>both my exes

What, did you get really good at drawing a face on each of your hands?
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>>67023386
>>67023219
>>67016001
In honesty, BRAGGING ABOUT ANOTHER MAN'S GIRLFRIEND, that's some next level cuckoldry.
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>>67023588
If you think San Diego is full of Mexicans you've obviously never been there. It's white as fuck. All the spics go straight up the 5 to Los Angeles
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>>67018340
I would be DEAD after a hit like that.

Nopitty nope nope niggy niggy NOPE.
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>>67017965
>Browns dynasty
that just sounds wrong
>>
>>67023591
Just splattering your moms face like a Jackson Pollock painting
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>>67023622
Never bragged once but keep up with your fantasies
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>>67023632
this san diego is absolutely beautiful and has great people. Great zoo too.
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>>67023503
>Moon not #1
>McNabb ahead of Wilson and Newton
>Vick ahead of Wilson and Newton
>McNair ahead of Wilson and Newton
>Culpepper ahead of Wilson and Newton
>Doug Williams

>"Here, let me show you my casual."
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>>67023448
Adding KO to the oline will pay dividends for Carr. He'll be more comfortable in the pocket knowing he has all day to throw. Adding Bruce Irvin to our D is gonna help either him or Mack get to the QB more often and when they don't succeed, having Sean Smith and David Amerson in the backfield is gonna be huge.

I'm not saying we're gonna cleanly take over the division but we're definitely gonna be in the mix til the very end.
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>>67023465
Cap space that will be used to resign Garcon, Desean, and Cousins to new long term deals.

Unless i'm missing some huge amount of money the Redskins are getting off their books.
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>>67023658
then why post the picture Canada? Is it bc you have no teams in /hoc/?
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>>67023652
The Browns had a 10 year dynasty idiot. It's would be weird if it were the Detroit Lions dynasty but that, my friends, is only the dreams of one canuck.
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>>67023632
>white as fuck
>less than 60%

And that's not even accounting for all those beaners who write "white" on census.
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>>67023697
I don't watch hockey, and I just had to add the picture or else people wouldn't know who I was talking about :)
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>>67023699
are you being so uppity because you're ,ad about the giants 2 consecutive 6-10 seasons?
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>>67023712
that's still probably whiter than a lot of other areas of cali like L.A. or san fran.
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>>67023732
whatever helps you sleep at night, bro
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>>67023699
I know the Browns used to be good but they've been shit my whole life so I just can't take them seriously at all
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>>67023737
*mad*
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>>67023656
That made no sense
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>>67023712
County? No, San Diego. Downtown, beach cities. Not chula juana or border cities. San Diego county is nearly as big as LA county in sq mi
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>>67023741
You too
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>>67023737
>>
Don't blame Panthers for walking, and don't blame Norman whatsoever for taking the money. Fuck fans who think a player should take a pay cut as large as 3-4 million per year as a "hometown discount"
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>>67023540
didn't consider rings at all, Russell is just overrated af compared to the others. also, only him and Williams have SB wins as starters, I think McNair got one as a backup somewhere

>>67023562
>he was so shitty sometimes
in the way that bad black QBs tend to be shitty, or just in general?
either way, Vick was on track to be #1 in this category until he ballsed it all up

>>67023564
because Randall was a better dual threat, you moron. there's no criteria stating that these guys have to be evaluated by purely passing metrics.

>>67023681
>Wilson and Newton are better than everyone else!!!
yeah fuck off with that logic, casual. also Doug Williams was a fill-in at #10, couldn't think of any other notables
>>
>>67023732
You know damn well those sluts just went to Blue and didn't actually want to be near your nigger infested city, right?
>>
>>67023769
That's city proper, anon. County is actually slightly whiter.
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>>67023781
congratz you're officially tiki-tier
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>>67023695
>signing Garcon or DeSean to huge deals
lol, why the fuck would they do that? Garcon isn't worth a cap-busting deal. He's a WR2 on any team that doesn't blow cock, there's no reason for them to bid with the cellar dwellers for him if he just wants a payday. DJ is under contract for 2 more years, if they're 2 more like the last one he won't be coming back, but for argument's sake, even if they aren't, he also can't expect a prime deal after his prime from any team that's not desperate.
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>>67023808
Why wouldn't Stafford's wife live with him?
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>>67023796
>didn't consider rings at all
That's what I meant. When you talk about Brady it's all MUH RINGS MUFUGGA but when it comes to other players then suddenly rings don't matter.
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>>67023781
oh hey, I can do that too!
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>>67023808
>your nigger infested city
>your

He's a Canadian you sperg.
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>>67023768
1. You know nothing about art
2. Imagine my dick as the paint brush that did this:
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>>67023782
>Have GOAT QB
>He works for far less than players who aren't even a quarter as good
>>
>>67023808
Suburbs of Detroit are some of the richest in the US, have been in that area many times
>>
>>67023796
>Vick was on track to be #1

he really wasn't though. He had some good moments in Atlanta but he was hurt all the time and never had any real consistency. and even if he could have had a better career without going to jail it doesn't matter because he didn't.

Staubach could have been goat had he not gone to the navy but what ifs are gay as fuck.
>>
>>67023847
I didn't say cap busting deals, jesus. I just said they had to be resigned. Again, what huge sums of money are coming off the Redskins books next year that gives them SO much cap space? I'm asking because I'm assuming you are a Redskins fan.
>>
>>67023892
>Patriots fan bragging about rings to a Giants fan
Are you retarded?
>>
>>67023900
Canada is SO FAR AWAY from Detroit...nice try proxy
>>
>>67023796
>Wilson and Newton aren't better than everyone else
Where can I buy the shit you're smoking? Newton is the best athlete to ever play the position and what Wilson showed last year >>>>>> anything the rest of that list did in their careers.
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>>67023781
>you
>this image
>again

Saltiest faggot in this general lately
>>
>>67023924
I like Brady but honestly it's easy for him to take a pay cut when his wife literally earns 3 times more than him. Other players have literally who golddiggers for wives.
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>>67023781
>9-7 2012
>7-9 2013
>6-10 2014 and 2015
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>>67023924
Norman is 28 and has only seen a single 5th round scaled contract. Brady has previous contracts and lord knows what he brings in with endorsements
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>>67021501
As a Packer fan, I think the Bears will be a surprise this year. Might still take last, but give that team 2 or 3 years and I think they will be back in shape. They just need to get some offensive weapons since Alshon is so damn inconsistent.
>>
>>67016130
will they ever use Darren Waller??
>>
>>67023966
>i dont like x doing y so its retarded
are you 10?
>>
>>67023924
norman has made 3 mil in his career

brady has made over 150 mil
>>
>>67024010
>11-5 2016
>>
>>66995463
>>66995463
>>66995463
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>>67023941
Cool, try to sell your house in Detroit. I'm not buying it
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>>67023847
>tfw. desean can at least come back to the eagles for a year or 2 and eclipse 10k yards
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>>67023988
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>>67023966
both teams have 4 Super Bowl wins. that's the point, idiot.
>muh irony of 18-1! twice!!!
literally matters not at all in this "argument", 4 = 4 and that's it
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>>67024047
Fuck off canuck.
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>>67022341
Isn't that kind of fish called an "Archer fish"? Just curious.
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>>67023941
>suburbs of Detroit
>suburbs
>SUBURBS

Yeah aka not the city itself. Suburbs of Cleveland, St. Louis and Pittsburgh are also wealthy as shit while the city itself is a hellhole.
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>>67023988
>>67024017
>>67024042
Legit question here:
Who in the world needs all that money? You can't spend all that in one lifetime, and you can't take it with you.
The only thing that lasts beyond when you leave this mortal coil is fame and glory.
More players should be taking pay cuts to get rings.
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>>67024075
giants are 4-1 though and pats are 4-4
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>>67023972
3/10, you tried
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>>67024044
>they're going to magically turn it all around
>said by eveyr fan of teams irrelevant in the last few years
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>>67023681
Your opinion is shit.
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>>67024104
>You can't spend all that in one lifetime

most pro athletes think this too, and then they go bankrupt
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>>67024104
Cry more faggot.
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>>67024104
Wealth is all relative. A dirt poor nigger in Uganda could likewise be asking you why do you need your smartphone, flatscreen TV, console, computer and fuck knows what else. You don't physically need all of that either.
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>>67024112
Top 5 QBs?

Brady
Rodgers
Rivers
Roeth
...
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>>67023955
>I just said they had to be resigned.
They don't have to be, though. Garcon certainly doesn't, and not Jackson either unless he absolutely balls the next couple years.

I'm not a Redskins fan, but they should have Hall, Liechtensteiger, Jean-Francois, and probably Colt McCoy and Vernon Davis coming off soon. Just those guys are $15-20m easy.
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>>67024112
Name someone from that list who besides Newton, Cunningham, or Moon who has carried a team the way Wilson carried Seattle last year. Don't worry, I'll wait.
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>>67023503
Steve McNair needs to be top 3 for the legacy of his penis alone
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>>67024104
>be Vince Young
>earn millions
>throw fucking birthdays parties worth a million dollars and pour endless amount of money into the dumbest shit imaginable
>your career ends
>you're now not only broke, you're millions in debt
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>>67024109
both still have 4 Super Bowls. Nobody mentioned W-L records until you did.
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>>67024104
Fuck off commie, were a meritocracy not a mediocrity. Get fucked you lazy Bernie supporter
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>>67022354
>he was good until he played bad

too bad the season is more than 8 weeks long
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>>67024112
0/10, you didn't try
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>>67023503
>Vick
>fucking VICK better than Wilson

Literally how? Wilson has more rings, more playoff wins, unfathomably better passing stats and was never a distraction / criminal element.
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>>67023248
>Patrolling image boards literally 24/7
>Caring if the OP responds to my remark

Simply commenting on the phenomena of people wearing caps like douches.
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Who has the biggest dick in the NFL?
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>>67024125
Actually it's flawless, no need to be triggered.
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>>67024323
your mom
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>>67024323
JJ Watt has the smallest
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>>67024243
>"you have to take the whole season into account"
>"Norman is shit because of a couple bad games"

Which is it?
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>>67024366
What position does she play lel
>>67024382
How do you know?
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>>67024366
REKT
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>>67023386
Would like to see her without makeup. That's when you can truly place them on a rating scale.

>I was about to say "objectively" rather than "truly" but then I realized that a rating scale based on appearance is an entirely subjective construct
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>>67024436
>What position does she play
missionary lolerz
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>>67024210
Wilson has never carried a team. And moon and Cunningham have both carried teams with 0 defense. Welcome to watching the NFL. You're beliefs are irrelevant and so is your life
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>>67024475
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stop posting in a dead thread you tards
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>>67024075
>4 != 4*
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>>67024323
Vinsanthe Shiancoe
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>>67024505
>Wilson has never carried a team.
Might as well just admit you didn't watch a single snap last year.

>And moon and Cunningham have both carried teams with 0 defense.
LOL, I had them ahead of Wilson you retarded cuck.
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>>67023219
Why does he wear the neckbeard?
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>>67024389
I don't think you understand. Taking into account the games he played poorly is looking at the whole season. And it was more than just "a couple" games.
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>>67024646
By carrying a team you mean throwing for barely 4000 yards and riding the Dick of you're soon to be dead defense? Definitely a game manager if I've ever seen one. Wait til he has no RB and no Oline and he does better, then I'll applaud the midget
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>>67024732
>Taking into account the games he played poorly is looking at the whole season. And it was more than just "a couple" games.
Well, sure, 2.5 is technically more than a couple.
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>>67022593
>dak
The dude can't throw the ball for shit
Inb4 muh comp %

>>67024109
Gints are 2-0 against the pats in the owl
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>>67024887
more like 5 but ok
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>>67024813
>over 4500 total yards
>not impressive with a terrible OL and literally who skill players

Their defense was already dead last year, he carried their sorry asses. You clearly haven't seen a single Seahawks snaps since '14 or '13.

>Wait til he has no RB and no Oline and he does better
That's what he did this year...
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>>67024892
>The dude can't throw the ball for shit
"Better announce myself as a permacasual retard so there's no confusion."
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>>67024898
lol, he was the highest graded corner thru 12 games, that only leaves 4 holy shit.
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>>67024975
>comp % on meme throws like tebow
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>>67025236
>"I literally have never seen him play. He plays for Tebow's coach right? Obviously he's just like Tebow then."
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>post yfw you sit down on Sunday September 11th 2016 to watch your team's first Sunday afternoon game of the season, turn on the TV with a cold beverage in hand, and one of these begin to play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbU4fPYRvcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx69XXobpN8
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>>67024975
wait do you actually think dak prescott is any good?
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>>67025336
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>>67025336
Ive grown to like the CBS theme better than the Fox one
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>>67025336

Never forget
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