BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>literally getting beat by a college spring practice
>>66934861
deep south retards treat college football like NFL tho. its literally all they have
>furpuck
>>66934944
nascar?
>>66934944
And college football is a million times better that furpuck
>>66934861
>tv ratings
>cable tv
>still having cable
>>66934944
There's plenty of quality NFL football too, Panthers, Saints, Falcons, Titans, etc
>>66934944
only canadians and alcoholics watch hockey. college football is for rednecks and college kids. The two are more similar than you think
>>66934861
To be fair I don't watch the NBCsports version of my team playing, I'm going to watch my local feed. Plus NBCsports has to compete with CBC airing the games so that cuts probably over half the viewers as well.
>>66935068
Why's that?
Hockey is pretty fast pace and interesting to watch. Have you ever tried getting in to it?
Hockey is a rich man's sport
>>66935247
I can't see the puck.
>>66934861
One is aired on channel 7, the other is aired on channel 664, 626, and 612 for my cable provider.
Basic cable>niche channels
1 source>3 different sources
And I'm a huge CFB fan
>>66935137
>quality
>Titans
>Falcons
>>66935137
>Saints
>Falcons
>Titans
>quality NFL football
uwotm8?
>ratings
>>66935247
Hockey, although it requires an incredible amount of skill, isn't very dynamic.
It's literally just dump the puck in the corner. Scrum on the boards. Kick out to Dman. Go D to D. Shoot through traffic and look for rebound.
This is how it plays out 99% of the time.
Power plays aren't very interesting either since one side is solely committed to defending.
If they played 3v3 like they decided to in regular season OT, you might actually have fans.
As it stands right now, it's an extremely crude game.
>>66934861
I really don't understand why Americans dont like hockey. Its fast paced, physical, and fighting doesnt warrant an ejection. Seems like the kind of thing Americans would enjoy, but I guess the whole ice thing throws off 60% of the country.
>>66934861
This only proves that our country is full of niggers.
>>66935372
Probably like 35 of our 50 states don't see snow and if they get a half an inch they cancel school.
And as much as it pains me >60% white
Not to mention ESPN didn't air it so casuals become unaware.
Whatever though, I don't mind hockey being niche since it keeps casual scum from ruining the sport
Our country is so uncultured it hurts
>>66935369
this
Hockey is for rich white people.
>>66935417
Thats a good point about coverage too, Fox tried and failed in the 90s, and ESPN ignores it all together.
>>66935286
Can you see the baseball? The football in a pile?
Maybe you need glasses
>>66934944
>>66935117
>>66935247
>>66935329
>>66935372
>>66935380
>>66935423
>furpuck fans so mad no one watches their shitty sport
literally MLS tier
I can't understand why the camera view for football isn't behind the offense like in the Madden games
>>66935494
Actually we like it this way
Pic related
>>66935494
Not mad at all, hockey is a religion in my country. Just you guys love watching football, which is a bunch of guys running into each other on a field, you'd think you'd be into even faster guys on skates running into each other.
>>66935494
>concussionball fans so upset they have no fat sweaty nigs to watch crash into each other they try to shitpost about the only white man's sport left on the planet
>>66935514
Wouldnt be able to see the sidelines, for one. Broadcast view, whether its soccer, basketball, hockey, or football, is the best because you can see sideline to sideline.
>>66935494
>unironically watching E!SPN to watch amateurs practice for free
wew lad
>>66935372
the fighting is the worst part. you're not supposed to fight on skates it looks embarrassing. and who cares about personal beefs, there are people watching a game. but i guess the fans like that dumb shit.
>>66935514
Because the game is played from the perspective of the athletes on the field. Nba2k's 2k camera angle is the same.
The tv angle is for the casuals who dont see whats really occuring on the field(ie why real football fans pay for the coaches' tape on nfl.com)
>>66935542
The lockout completely destroyed the general fanbase largely because ESPN lost all rights afterwards and Versus (now NBCSN) was just starting up. It was never a major sport, but it got relegated to less coverage than even shit tier sports like Golf and NASCAR.
>>66935589
>there are people watching the game
>so let's give them 11 minutes of action and the other 2 hours 49 minutes we can run budweiser ads
Bettman killed hockey
>>66934944
FL State practice game literally sold out the Citrus Bowl a week ago
>>66935514
XFL did it and it was good
with widescreens being the norm now NFL should do it
>>66935369
That does happen quite a bit, but that's not what happens 99% of the time. And you could break any sport down like that if you wanted to. There's plays off cycles and people carrying the puck in on oddman rushes or if the d-man pivots early (for example) which also happens quite a bit.
It kind of sucks that hockey isn't nearly as good on tv as it is live. I also think cameramen follow the guy with the puck too much, it should be a wider angle and mostly stationary, there's so much more that goes on that gets missed on tv
>>66935514
All 22 is the most prized footage and most guarded
Read that on the internet hey :D
Soccer is now ahead of NHL according to navigation on ESPN.com
>>66935805
build wall
>>66935369
Cycling the puck can be boring but don't forget the transition game and flat out breakaways
>>66935732
>there's so much more that goes on that gets missed on tv
that's true for most sports
i enjoy hockey but the dumps into the corner get old, actual passing sequences are fun to watch and why I like the 3v3 overtimes
MLS is unironically the number 4 sport in some areas of the nation
>a pure white sport
We like it this way.
>>66935805
Hockey doesn't generate ESPN a dime so it surprises me they even have stats on it
>>66935732
Bro, I love hockey but I think it needs to be "updated". The incredible skating skill (and speed it gives the game) is what sets hockey apart. Unfortunately, today's game doesn't allow for it to truly shine. Offenses are too stagnated and can rarely even gain smooth entry into the opponent's zone. The players are too big now and everything seems so clogged up.
Go to Olympic ice or play 4v4 and the ratings would go up imo.
>>66935827
>i enjoy hockey but the dumps into the corner get old,
turning over the puck in the neutral zone is good way to find yourself sitting on the bench.
NFL: predominantly black sport
NBA: predominantly black sport
MLB: predominantly hispanic sport
MLS: predominantly hispanic sport
NHL: predominantly white sport
gee I wonder why the media shits on the NHL all the time
>>66935372
Americans will typically watch sports they grew up playing, either casually or in leagues/highschool/college.
I was into hockey at the height of the Lemieux, Gretzky era, when every kid seemed to own NHL 94, and Mighty Ducks was like the most popular kids sports franchise.
I even bought some street hockey gear, but my interest quickly faded, since playing hockey in the driveway grew old pretty fast. Furthermore, I'm from SoCal, so I can't just walk down to the local frozen pond and get a close to authentic experience.
Compare this to basketball, baseball, football, or even (god forbid) soccer. To get a pickup going with friends in these games, all you need is a ball, hoop, couple of bats (don't always need gloves for baseball, since you can play with a tennis ball), and a field.
Hockey requires each kid to have their own stick, skates, know how to skate (yeah, you can play on foot, but it's pretty lame), and if you want something like the real thing, ice.
It's not that Americans don't like hockey. There's just not a lot of states that have the necessarily climate that allows kids to connect with the game early on. Yeah, you can sign up for league or something, but most kids connect with their favorites sports by playing them with friends at school, in the yard, etc.
>>66935837
First they came for the NHL, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a NHL fan.
Then they came for the MLB, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a MLB fan.
Then they came for the NBA, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a NBA fan.
Then they came for the NFL—and there was no sports left to keep it out.
>>66935896
>he's so insecure he has to use the race of athletes in dying sports to cope
>>66935609
The thing is every second of action in football is exciting and worth paying attention to. Compare this to furpuck and divegrass where it's mundane puck cycling and back passing 95% of the time, and you will easily see why so many people prefer football. At least when the ads come on we know we can stop paying attention, grab a beer, etc. but with hockey you're literally sitting there watching boring shit waiting for something to happen. You can't even stop watching the boring stuff because then you could miss something exciting.
>>66936026
Wrong:
Football: Can be played in a variety of climates, on a variety of terrains.
Basketball: See above
Baseball: See above
Soccer: See above
Ice Hockey: Needs ice.
>Roller hockey
Indeed an alternative, but it still requires more necessary conditions to play relatively properly than the other sports.
Golf is the whitest of white sports, and the Masters and other Majors are still big television draws.
I bet you think Keeping Up With The Kardashians is better than True Detective too
>>66935958
If you think hockey ratings are smaller because it doesn't have as much "entertainment value" you're fucking retarded.
It's because decades of TV deals, ESPN domination, bad decisions by hockey commissioners and the fact that only a small portion of the US even has ice.
Nobody turns hockey off because it's "boring," they don't watch it because they grew up watching dunk highlights on ESPN and the sport isn't advertised.
Hockey is a northern sport
Subhuman southerners are too dumb to get it. That's why it's mainly popular in states with high education and income.
>>66936142
to each their own I suppose. I watch football as well, but I don't see anything exciting about a RB running into 10 big men and gaining a yard or losing one. But I get what you mean, it's more controlled entertainment in a way
>>66936108
Yeah. It's why I hate /sp/'s hockey fans. They think the fact that it's a "white sport" is the reason why it isn't popular nationwide.
Never mind the fact that only a few States have the right climate and conditions where kids can just go outside and get a hockey game going.
>>66936250
If this is the only comeback you can muster, you probably belong on /pol/
>>66936250
it's a nowhere sport, there are more people in the north but still it gets shit ratings
nobody gives a fuck about hockey
>>66936239
it's literally because you can't see what's happening on tv. casual fans are like fish they chase the shiny thing. you can clearly see basketballs, baseballs and footballs.
>>66936278
It's true. The south has the worst education highest unemployment and highest obesity. Where the glorious Nortb East excels in Education and health
>>66934861
>The Sherman scorched ash pile of Alabama
>>66936278
Not him but it's true dude. Hockey states are essentially the Northeast and Minnesota/NoDak
These states top the list of livability, income, and education
>>66936029
Also espn doesn't cover it so it's hard to casually follow it
>>66936301
good. dont watch it but continue to obsess over how "nobody cares"
>>66936239
I never said it was boring. What the fuck are you talking about? I said the play itself isn't dynamic and doesn't play to the strengths of the sport.
>>66936301
I can promise you hockey performs better than basketball in the northeast and Minnesota. Hell, even Illinois now
Don't be mad, you're clearly upseg
>>66936301
I live in Jersey and I know like 3 people who actually care about the NBA and they are black. Hockey is huge here everyone is either a Devils or Rangers fan. We gave up the Nets for a reason
Great news, imo, the more insulated the sport the better
>>66936332
>Where the glorious Nortb East excels in Education and health
Apparently not.
>>66936383
>>66936386
>my anecdotes overrule hard facts
>>66936398
It isn't an anecdote, hard facts do show northeast and Minnesota care more about hockey than basketball. Why the fuck do you care so much anyways?
Or do the Timberwolves do better than hockey now? Kek
>>66935940
What do you mean..
>>66936398
Get the ratings for New England and Minnesota faggot. The South brings hockey ratings down same as they bring down our country's education statistics
>>66936250
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
Baseball is pretty much religion in much of the Northeast, and the Northeast state where you can say hockey is most popular (Maine) ranks pretty low in household income.
Michigan could be classified as a hockey state, and it ranks pretty low. Yeah, >Black People, but there's a lot of low income rednecks and hicks living in Michigan.
Awesome. Less niggers ruining our sport the better. ESPN is a containment sports site.
>>66936398
>tv rankings on espn determine a sports popularity
how much do you get paid to shill things like that?
>>66936442
The NHL I don't believe has any deals with ESPN whatsoever. So I'm surprised that they even talk about it considering it is essentially "competition"
All first round NHL playoff games on cable are blacked out locally
>>66936497
Mine isnt. Watching it right now, Fox sports North. Why lie?
There are some cities where the NHL team is way more popular than the NBA team
>>66935423
>Our country is so uncultured it hurts
Yes, nothing says culture like players occasionally entering a boxing match in the middle of a game.
>>66936459
Hockey is still bigger than basketball from Pennsylvania and New Jersey up. No one is saying that it's bigger than baseball or the NFL
>>66936485
NHL just hates exposure I guess. They're not even trying to grow as a sport..
>>66936525
I meant blacked out like it's not on NBCSN or USA or CNBC. It's on your local TV station
>mad at hockey
Why does such a small sport generate so much cuck asspain?
>>66936545
Better than the fag fests Soccer has
Make the rink larger.
>>66936569
No big black bulls. They are triggered by the whiteness
>>66936569
>furpuck retards can't into proper English
How shocking.
>>66936569
White people shouldn't be allowed to be dominant in sports
>Georgia Bulldogs sell out 93K seats
>Hawks Game 1 barely sells out
fuckin Atlanta
>>66936576
Put your flag back on Finland
>>66936569
/NBA/ general sucks dick and they want to import /hoc/ memes
Alabama has the most bandwagoners in sports history
>>66936535
Which cities
Besides dc I can't think of anyother city
>>66936626
>muh dump 'n chase
>muh get pucks on net
>muh get bodies in front
>>66936613
G day is free though, bad comparison
The NBA only makes 1-2 billion more in revenue despite all the massive coverage it gets compared to the NHL
>grown men religiously follow the sports of a college they never attended
Will never understand this as long as I live
>>66936551
I'm just debunking that the "white" and "educated" naturally follow hockey.
It has everything to do with what State you grew up in and little to do with race, education level, income level, etc.
As I said before, golf's image is more upper crust than hockey, but it still draws on television, because it's an accessible game to play for most of the country. There's hundreds of golf courses in pretty much every state.
>>66936683
Minneapolis, Boston, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Detroit, I'd actually wonder whether New York too.
>>66936683
Obviously Toronto
But Minnesota, Detroit, Philadelphia....you could maybe argue Boston. Chicago possibly. Before Mark Cuban bought the Mavericks they were a WAY distant 4th behind the Stars.
>>66936705
>i'll never understand why people love a thing
>>66936569
Jelly of our memes
>>66936720
Rangers games are definitely louder than Knicks games
>>66936535
New York City
Philadelphia
Boston
Detroit
You know what the funny thing is?
The Tampa Bay Lightning's attendance is higher than the Tampa Bay Rays. Been that way the last few years now. A hockey team having higher attendance than baseball in TAMPA, FLORIDA
Not even close to trolling
>>66936712
White and educated are more able to actually afford to play hockey anyway since its pretty expensive if you want to play in legit teams and what not
I guess it's more accessible for those in the colder States where you and your friends can just grab a few twigs and a rock and play hockey on the pond
Never was able to do that here in LA tho..
>>66936720
>Boston
Nah boston loves the celtics
>New york
New York has always had a big fanbase for every major league sport
>>66936863
Well the Lighting are arguably the best team in the league the last couple of years and the Rays are the Rays
>>66936826
stop hitting too close to home
>>66936820
>New York
>Boston
why are furpuck fans so delusional
>>66936876
I'm not a Massfag but I'm pretty sure the Bruins are more popular
>>66936826
Except thats sports in general.
Bread and circuses.
>>66936876
>>66936913
I live in New York
No one cares about The Knicks. They are literally the most pathetic organization in the world.
>>66936766
>Before Mark Cuban bought the Mavericks they were a WAY distant 4th behind the Stars.
fuckin this
The Mavs were like today's 76ers and the pre 2012 Clippers before Steve Nash and Dirk
>>66936913
I get you want to have these cities but cuckhoop doesn't have the popularity in the northeast that you think it does
>>66936920
>tfw loneliness was what got me heavily into sports
>>66936913
We love the Celtics but get way more fired up about the Bruins.
>>66936913
You've clearly never been to these cities or watched Bruins vs Celtics game or Knicks vs Rangers game
The energy for the hockey is undeniably better than the NBA
>>66936863
if mlb stopped playing games at 1pm they would sell more tickets.
>>66937012
if they made tickets, parking, food, and drink cheaper they would sell more tickets
its like they are happy with an empty stadium bc they are selling $8 hot dogs and $12 beers
its pretty much impossible to go to a game without spending $100
>>66937067
Ya I'd rather watch a bunch of Indians and Pakis slap a ball around with paddles wearing goofy outfit.
Or watch a bunch of Samoans hug each other in short shorts
>>66937140
Long jump and bowling
>>66936927
>no one cares about the knicks
That must be why they're always selling out msg
>>66937067
you would watch whatever your wife's boyfriend wants to watch
>>66937140
Professional shitposting on 4chan
>>66936927
>>66936973
>>66937009
>>66937011
television ratings prove you all wrong
when the Knicks were in the playoffs a few years ago at the same time as the Rangers, local ratings were more than 2-1 in favor of the Knicks. It wasn't quite the blowout in Boston, but the Celtics still won.
You are wrong, hockey has a few small strongholds throughout the country, but it is a largely irrelevant, niche sport.
>>66937161
the >rags sell out msg on a regular basis too.
>>>66937161
>largest city in North America, literally tens of millions of people
>proud of selling 17,000 tickets
>>66937203
Just like MLS
>>66937203
Local ratings or national ratings?
Because comparing ESPN to NBCsports is retarded.
I don't get why you need to have basketball "win" so badly. Like, why does this make you happy?
>>66937203
>E!SPN vs. channel 620592
excellent detective work. i think you should get back to sucking lebrons dick now.
Why are basketball fags so obsessed with hockey anyways? Do they think they are going to convert them into fans or something lol
>>66937245
>>66937248
LOCAL ratings, how many people in NY and Boston on average watched each team
it's not the NBA's fault hockey is on some garbage channel no one watches. Maybe that's an indicator that no one gives a shit
>>66934861
Hockey, sadly, is not a very diverse sport. Which I think keeps a lot of Americans from giving it a fair shake. Even a lot of young Canadians aren't quite as passionate about it was my generation was. Black athletes like you find in college football are just more exciting and charismatic, hockey is 95% boring white guys with no personality whatsoever.
>>66937283
Why do you care so much anyways?
I couldn't imagine how cringe tier it would be to see a hockey fan shitpost an MLS thread yet you seem to find this behavior acceptable lmao
>>66937283
NHL didn't allow itself to get Jewed by E!SPN
>>66937316
I didn't make the thread, if you make a bunch of retarded claims expect to get an argument
>hurr why do you care
>>66937348
But you do care, you're in the thread and looked up television ratings which you didn't link btw lol.
You're obviously very invested in the topic so I'm wondering why
>>66937272
>
You guys brought it up out of nowhere, no one is obsessed
>>66936026
MLB is predominantly white. League demographics actually match US demographics but a little more hispanic. Around 29 percent of MLB players were Hispanic last season, and white players accounted for about 60 percent.
>>66937283
considering the amount of coverage/advertising cuckhoop gets compared to icefight, its kind of pathetic that they could barely outdraw them 2-1.
E!SPN does a good job attracting plastics.
>>66937375
What? When did "we" bring it up?
I'm just genuinely curious the massive shitposting in this thread. I just don't understand the reasoning behind it all.
Why are hockey fans always asspained about the relative "irrelevance" of their sport?
Relax. A game like hockey can never become some kind of global phenomenon. Just too many barriers to entry.
A sports popularity has everything to do with accessibility. It's why the worst sport in the world is the most popular, because it can played anywhere, anytime, using a wadded up piece of newspaper or a goat's head for a ball.
And I like hockey. I want more Americans to watch it. I think it would be a crime if the MLS takes over the 4th sport spot, but it's just a tough sport to get into if you don't live in a frozen wasteland.
>>66936142
>The thing is every second of action in football is exciting and worth paying attention to
No it isn't. I've been a football fan for most of my life but I can't stand it anymore. It's literally
>kickoff
>touchback
>beer commercial
>1st and 10
>run up the middle
>2 yard gain
>2nd and 10
>slant pass
>incomplete
>Remember this game is brought to you by Subway! Subway! Eat Fresh!
>3rd and 10
>deep pass
>incomplete
>flag
>Holding 10 yard penalty
>Repeat 3rd down
>There's a player slow to get up! Let's hope he's ok
>More commercials
>Replay 3rd Down
>deep pass
>incomplete
>reciever bitches for a Pass interference
>Punt
>Fair catch
>more commercials
wash, rinse, repeat and you get 75% of NFL "action" sure there's exciting moments, but it's really not any more than most sports, and it has the most commercials and stoppages by a country mile.
>>66935247
Who wants to watch a "sport" with subpar athletes?
>>66937476
t. Bull prepper
>>66937446
I'm sorry your team is shitty, anon.
Literally every play that happens in football is important. That's the difference.
>>66937433
some autist made this exact same thread twice. i dont understand why this board is so obsessed with hockeys irrelevance.
>>66937523
My football team was in the playoffs and I missed 3 games and fell asleep for like 3 others.
Football is boring when it isn't a nightgame
>>66934861
I find this very hard to believe and I'm not a avid furpuck fan
I went to high school with guys who went pro in hockey. There was nothing impressive physically or athletically about those guys. Just average white guys that grew up skating.
>>66937523
you can't disagree that the commercial penetration has gone beyond ridiculous
>>66936863
Florida is a bandwagon state with only Tampa being a city that supports it football and hockey
Everything else is a disappointment
>>66934861
>ESPN continues to diss hockey
>hockey continues to be itself
>ESPN hemorrhaging money from the billions it spent on NFL deals and billions more for MLB games
>hockey continues to grow a bit out to the west coast
>ESPN will slowly be dropped by cable providers after iger leaves
>nhl will only have a incompetent commish that refuses to put more Canadian teams but that might change soon
Eh
Not a fan but the truth is that
Hockey grows while ESPN , a former giant in sports , falls
>>66937667
I think you mean its college football. the bucs arent really supported like the gators
>>66937743
ESPN's making plenty of money on CFB
The fact that nobody watches SportCenter(due to broadband internet providing instant highlights) anymore is why their revenue fell off so significantly.
>>66937523
Retard: the post
>>66937667
> not including Jacksonville
Also has a successful minor league team.
Inb4 "muh tarps"
Not just any city could have put up with the Jaguars for the last 10 years.
>>66935247
that's the thing, it's too fast-paced
it's perfect for americans in that aspect so I don't really get why it isn't more popular. + the violence
>>66941149
Probably because it is one of the least played sports/least accessible in the country. There are so many barriers such as the ability to ice skate, the equipment/# of people needed to play and hell even just the presence of an ice rink nearby. I grew up in the midwest and it was a 40 minute drive to the nearest ice rink and even if you got there good luck getting all the ice skaters to clear the ice so you and your buddies can stumble around with hockey sticks and a puck.
I think baseball is having the same problem nowadays. It isnt easy to field enough people for a quick pickup game of baseball and its hard enough to find a place to play it even if you do find people.
Its much easier to play a 2v2 pickup game of football or basketball.
>>66936559
ESPN was a problem. ESPN/ABC/Disney wanted exclusivity, but wasn't willing to feature it as part of their programming befitting such a deal. The NHL didn't do much better going to the motherfuckin' Outdoor Life Network, but they got a deal on their terms and have been growing their own product they control. ESPN is all sorts of butthurt even though they never would have given the NHL what it needed.
>>66936339
Sherman didn't even go through Alabama, much less burn it.
You hockey cunts need to adopt the Please Watch Our Sport meme those cricket losers use tßh, is the perfect response to threads like this
>>66942125
PLEASE WATCH OUR SPORT BIG STRONG ENGLISHMAN
>>66938465
>Not just any city could have put up with the Jaguars for the last 10 years.
Buffalo has been worst off since the creation span of the jags
OAKLAND has been worst off both on football and baseball(getting slightly better over the years but that aint saying much)
>>66936339
That would be Georgia anon. I know basic US history was hard for many
>>66937838
>ESPN's making plenty of money on CFB
Their new year game was a terrible experiment that backfired on them
>The fact that nobody watches SportCenter(due to broadband internet providing instant highlights) anymore is why their revenue fell off so significantly.
It is much more than just that
you can't tell me a channel is held by a single show which can be the make or break for it because that is unbelievable and impossible .
ESPN spent billions on NFL deals that don't matter anymore because of NFL network , soon twitter if their streaming really takes off , the local television markets shifting with the rams coming back
>>66943289
>you can't tell me a channel is held by a single show
this is literally all espn really was during the 80s and early 90s
>NFL network
yeah those thursday night games have been a massive success
>soon twitter if their streaming really takes off
they paid 10 mil for thursday night games literally nobody watches. meanwhile ESPN has MNF thru 2021 which you can access via any mobile WatchESPN app, so it's not like they have completely ignored where the future is headed
ESPN is still doing quite well. they just had to restructure a bit.
They still have CFB playoffs, UEFA Euros, USMNT, Monday Night Football, NBA, College Basketball, Golf, Tennis, etc
in the end, the networks are fine.. it's the cable companies that are literally walking dead
