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-----------------------Hart----------------------
Alves------Pique------Luiz----Marcelo
--------Gerrard---Pirlo--Iniesta--------
----deBruyne--Benzema--Neymar-----

>Bench: Rooney, Costa, Puyol, Terry, Tevez, Ramos, Valdes.

No meme/teenaged players please. This is strictly for established pros and we're talking about their whole careers and peak.
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>>66516283
No reflection, Iniesta was a harsh inclusion but I feel I had to include him because of the bollocks I've heard on here recently comparing him to Zidane and Scholes.... delusional to say the least.

He was/is a world class player and has been in the top 10 CMs in world football since 2008. So maybe to call him "overrated shit" is a bit harsh.
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Luiz is a given name. Either call him David Luiz or just David.
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>>66516283
>the city of Armando Hobbs
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>>66516313
On reflection*
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>>66516323
Nobody in the civilised world gives a shit about hue naming customs.
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>>66516313
that's probably because he is better than zidane and scholes...
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>>66516283
Every Brazilian NT ever
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>>66516323
No.

David is a first name.
Luiz is a surname.

Nobody would have a clue who you were talking about if you said "David is an overrated player"
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>>66516348
it's Iberian naming customs. Spain and Portugal do it too. See "Luis Enrique" or "Cristiano Ronaldo", all given names.
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>>66516349
And this post is evidence of what I just said and justifies his inclusion.
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>>66516384
Except people call him Ronaldo, he has Ronaldo on his shirt and Fergie always called him 'Cristiano' in interviews as if it was his first name.

So same thing applies to those players to.

Luis = First name
Enrique = Surname

Now fuck off.
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>>66516413
they call him Ronaldo because he played in England and stupid Brits forced it. It's a given name. His surname is "dos Santos Aveiro".
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back 5 = Barcelona 08-present
midfield = lampard, gerrard, busquets
attack = rooney, robben, neymar

honorable mentions: otamendi, mata, jamez, romario
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>strictly for established pros
>kevin de bruyne
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>>66516441
>His surname is "dos Santos Aveiro".
Then why does literally nobody know this?

Cristiano is a common first name
Ronaldo is a common surname

Get over it. More people would notice and make comments if I used your retarded system than this one.
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>>66516283
One of the worst posts I've ever read on this board
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>>66516413
This is such a pointless conversation but
>Luis Enrique Martínez García
>This name uses Spanish naming customs: the first or paternal family name is Martínez and the second or maternal family name is García.
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>>66516460
2 years at chelshit
a year or two in germany
now plays for city (50 million transfer)
full international
he's about 25 years old

i'd say that's established pro
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What are you on about people overrated hart like 2 years ago, If anything he's underrated these days
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>stablished footballers
>a 24 yo
>a 23 yo
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>>66516498
>two family names
Change your system, it's retarded.

>>66516460
Established compared to some 18 year old meme kid (i.e. Rashford)
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>>66516384
WHO GIVES A FUCK?
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>>66516483

wrong premise, just because you are ignorant of something doesn't mean others are too.

correct

wrong, it's a common given name, like Luiz/Luis.
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you fucking brits are insufferable. why is everyone who isn't in the top 5% of all players "shit"?
i mean, if you don't think pirlo, alves, terry, rooney, puyol, iniesta etc are the greatest, that's fine. but they still are in the top tier of all players, at least top 20%.
overated? sure, why not. Shit? nah, you're an idiot
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>>66516538
hues and their muh favela family culture
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>>66516531
>Change your system, it's retarded
the system is good, people here know who both their parents are
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>>66516538
me, I want to shit up this terrible thread
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>>66516577
alves and puyol are shit defenders tho
lucky they had the GOAT to cover their shitness
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>>66516483
>Then why does literally nobody know this?
everybody knows it you fookin mong
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>>66516394
Apart from the fact you'd have to be very mentally deficient to think Paul Scholes was better than Iniesta
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>>66516589
>terrible thread
m8 this is just a name rolling thread in disguise.
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in terms of transfer fees paid

>Otamendi
>Luiz
>de Bruyne
>Sterling
>Mangala
>Mata
>Jamez
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>>66516608
Well this is the first I've heard of it and I've already forgotten what it was. Oliveria Dos Santos? Or something? Not a fucking clue. Would have to scroll back up and read it again if I was arsed.

But I'm not.

Don't care. He's Cristiano and his family name is Ronaldo. Mother Ronaldo. Father Ronaldo and he is little baby Ronaldo and he was called Cristiano because he mother liked the name or read it in a baby names book or some shit.

Fuck off.
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>Not rating Hart
I really, really don't like this meme, thank God schmeicel isn't English
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>>66516609
I think genuinely need to see a doctor for having this view.

Iniesta isn't even as good as Xavi let alone Scholes.

>le pass 5 yards to the side man
>world class
pick one
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>Iniesta is bad
this memay must die
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>>66516684
Hart isn't in the top 10 GKs in the PL.

He's also got such a punchable face. I'd probably cave his skull in if I saw him t.b.h. The guy just looks like a right cunt.
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Most overrated team of the past 15 years:

-----------------------Cech----------------------
Mexes------Nesta------Kompany----G Neville
--------Scholes---Guti----Ribery--------
-----------Pires--Totti--Rooney------------
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>>66516722
Hahaha I'm sure you would hard lad
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>>66516727
>>66516609
Oh look, samefag spotted.

Let me guess, you're the Liverpool 'fan'
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>>66516283
pls stop watching football.
thanks
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>>66516675

Aveiro. His family name is dos Santos Aveiro.
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>>66516727
>Cech
>Nesta
>Scholes
>Totti

Kill yourself.

Also, who the fuck is Mexes? I doubt anyone 'rates' him whoever he was.
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>>66516751
No, I'm Fannie Hood. He was Jose Frye.
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>>66516693
And have you ever seen quotes from messi, xavi, zidane, the pope etc saying how good iniesta is? Exactly
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Overrated shit then:
>English """"""""premier""""""""""""" league
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>>66516283
Nobody rates Hart Gerrard Terry and Rooney outside your island
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>Iniesta
>Better than Scholes
Lmao.

I'll rank the best CMs since 1990. Totally unbiased as I have never been a fan of any of the clubs any of these players have played for or had any vendetta against any of them and their clubs.

1. Scholes
2. Zidane
3. Laudrup
4. Keane
5. Robson
6. Xavi
7. Vieira
8. Essien
9. Iniesta
10. Schweinsteiger
11. Alonso
12. Fletcher
13. Ballack
14. Gerrard
15. Carrick
16. Pirlo
17. Mascherano
18. Modric
19. Yaya Toure
20. Kroos

Okay, maybe a SLIGHT bias towards German players... but nothing crazy.
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Why do Brits try so hard to be the edgiest posters on /sp/?
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>>66516907
>these retarded bait
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>>66516860
then how come rooney finished 3rd in the ballon dor in separate 4 seasons and finished in the top 5 8 seasons?
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>>66516283
The heck are Iniesta, Puyol and Valdés doing on there? I say Valdés because nobody rates Valdés.
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>>66516860
Gerrard was in the World XI three times during his peak, and John Terry was one of the best defenders in the world for 5 years straight

I'd agree the other two are overrated as fuck here
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>>66516907
>trying this hard to seem impartial
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>>66516941
Gerrard and Terry were the worst out of them.

Rooney is criminally underrated because he's a fat scouse bastard and people love to hate him.

As a footballer though, he's a genius. He will end his career as England's greatest ever goalscorer and Manchester United's greatest ever goalscorer.

He's a God and a Giant of the sport. Get over it.
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>>66516932
>how come rooney finished 3rd in the ballon dor
He literally never finished in the top 3 in the Ballon d'Or voting.

And I'm 90% positive that he didn't finish in the top 5 8 times
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>>66517013
yes he did and in 08 he was actually better than c. ronaldo but of course, rooney from liverpool isn't as exotic a choice as cristiano ronaldo the global superstar....

it's a glorified popularity contest, but rooney was always up there, showing that he was rated highly across europe
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>>66516998
Spotted the manure fan, he's only England's leading goal scorer because he's racked them up against San Marino and other shit teams, he's a master at going missing in big games

Admittedly he's one of Man U's greatest strikers, behind only Cantona, but he's hardly one of the best strikers in the world, whereas Gerrard and Terry were both at the forefront for their positions
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>>66517037
Why don't you look up Ballon d'Or voting results

He finished 8th in 2009 and 5th in 2011. He didn't make the top 10 outside of those 2 years
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>>66516907

> 18. Modric

that guy is fucking magic, messi of midfield, deserves higher ranking
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>>66517053
>he's only England's leading goal scorer because he's racked them up against San Marino and other shit teams, he's a master at going missing in big games

If it's so easy why didn't Shearer or whoever do the same?

Rooney is England's greatest ever player. Get over it.
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>>66517336
Shearer's international career was riddled with injuries, plus he had more competition for the strikers spot, like Sol Campbell, Michael Owen and Teddy Sheringham, whereas Rooney's had no one to oppose him as first choice striker

Shearer has a better goal scoring rate than Rooney for the games he did play though, and they came in a lot more important games than Wazza's

Crawl out his arse mate, it's not pretty
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>>66517482
>he had more competition for the strikers spot
>like Sol Campbell
w-what?

I agree about Shearer being much better than Rooney though
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>>66517505
Mental slip, that's a pretty big error though lol
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>>66516283
>Luiz
Everyone say the world cup. Everyone knows how shit he is
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>>66517482
Shearer was pretty overrated though. Him and Rooney both.
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>>66517627
>say
saw
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>>66517505

>not playing hoofball with big Sol up front, molesting the opposition's defence.
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>>66517482
>Sheringham
As if he was fucking close to being as good as Shearer or Rooney. Fucking hell...
>Owen
Did not keep Shearer out of the team at all.
>Sol Campbell

So that's an absolute nonsense argument.

Rooney has been BY FAR England's best player since 2004. BY FAR. It's not even close.
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>>66516283
if anything benzemail is underrated because of penaldo and the retarded shit he does outside the pitch
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>>66516751
I'm Jose Frye actually, knowing that Iniesta is better than Scholes isn't exactly rare.
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>>66517804
People say England is delusional, but I think France edges it.
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>>66517905
he's literally better than any striker england has ever produced, and I say that as someone who hates him
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>>66517905
Benzema is literally the 2nd best striker in the world after Suarez. 3rd at the very worst
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>>66516577
>Pirlo
Yes, he was a top player - now he plays in the yank retirement league.
>Terry
Was good in his prime but is also past it
>Rooney
Biggest kek yet. Same as above
>Puyol
He's retired you fucking moron
>Iniesta
Yeah he was also great but again, is aging

Does it take like 10 years for football to reach you guys over there or something? Why have you named all players that were only good a decade ago?
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>>66517980
tfw we are even better without him

feelsgoodman
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>>66516483
I remember the BBC crediting some of his goals as 'dos Santos Aveiro'

hipsters
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>>66516458
Ha, Romario. What about Ruud? Or Batistuta.
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>>66516394
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>>66519451
I think they do this with every player with a nickname. I was confused as fuck trying to figure out who scored for Liverpool before figuring it out that it was Firmino.
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never share your opinions on football ever again OP
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>>66516413
wow you british are stupid
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>>66516283

> deBruyne
> Nerman (much as i hate to admit it)

otherwise good list desu

also

> Azzar can't even make the bench

kek
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>>66516313
>top 10 CMs since 2008

Holy shit this has to be ironic. You can't be this delusional.
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>>66520383
>7-1
>thinks his opinions matter

LAUGHING
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>>66516413
>Enrique = Surname

Keep on trying, lad.
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Where are Zlatan and Ronaldo?
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>>66521382

DP'ING Pique
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>>66518030
0/10

he's not even the third best striker in madrid

There are at least 15 EPL strikers better than Benzema currently
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>>66517980
Would take Welbeck over Benzema.

Let alone Kane, Rooney, Sturridge etc.

You have no idea about the sport, son. Just give it up.
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>>66522451
Name them
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>>66522523
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>>66516394

Inieasta:

>won the WC and the EC twice, while being the best player in the 2012 EC

Iniesta is probably one of the most underrated players of all time.

>then I see PIRLO

Fucking kill yourself.
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>>66516283

Fuck off faggot ABC
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>>66517627
Le what?
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Tellement bi-polaire...
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hello
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>>66516441
t. bananinho
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>neymar instead of hazard
delete your account tbqh
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>>66516283
>gerrald
>iniesta
>neymar
>costa
>terry
>tevez
>ramos

None of these belong anywhere near this team. What the fuck are you smoking Hobbs?
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>>66516283
>Hart
>overrated

I've watched every Man City game either live or on TV pretty much since Hart started playing for us. He is not overrated. If anything, it constantly amazes me how he always gets shit online. Probably because he's a blonde white guy
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>>66516283
>Tevez overrated
Not saying world class, but a very good player. Plus he won titles in almost every team he was in (except westham) and wasn't bench warming in any of those (except city but both he and mancini went full retard)
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>>66516587
ignore him he's retarded
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>>66516283
agree with hart and marcelo
the rest are wrong
david luiz isn't overrated because everyone knows he's shit
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