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RIP Cruyff Edition
adam johnson in jail for 6 years edition
>take team off of possession based football and tell them to just start hoofing it into the box
>win the first game 5-1
nice memes
>>66362039
>he doesnt know the power of hoofball
>Cruyff
>>66362051
it really is a little silly
gonna try it some more and see how it goes
might have to stick my wingers as just regular forwards so that i can have maximum people in the box to receive said hoofballs
>tfw no cruciates
>>66361942
post your most cruyff-esque players
>>66362039
>playing possession based football in the first place
>>66362153
>tfw don't have and use an AMC to post a Cruyff like player
>>66362170
it just seems like a cool way to play
when i watch arsenal do wengerball correctly it's quite pleasing to watch but it just happens so rarely and i wanted to see it in FM :(
now I wonder what he did. sadly no report
>>66362343
i refuse to believe this works
this game gave me fucking cancer
>>66362423
It clearly aint working
>>66361942
/Qt/s sub-edition
Going on a trip to the south side of the island, see you guys in 4 days sub-sub-edition
>>66362448
>lvg.jpg
>>66362470
thread will die without butters shitposting
>>66362448
You aren't winning enough games.
1 win and a loss is better than 2 draws
>>66362496
give it 4 years
>tfw can't use Cryuff as assistant manager anymore
Loaning this guy. After two hundred players from Serie B rejecting my club it's a guy from Inter the one that wants to come.
>>66362489
I expect you guys to shitpost harder while I'm at the beach.
>>66362592
DEP en Paz
What,Cryuff is dead? I remember my father telling me how great he was since i was old enough to be interested in football. He was probably one of my fathers favourite players,and considering we're german,that means a lot
this fucking year
Professional personality. How should i train him?
>>66362631
train him to be a good player
>Cruyff didn't come to Argentina in '78 for the WC because of the military dictatorship here
>He died today, on the 40th anniversary of that dictatorship
fuck
rest in peace, you great, turning man
>>66362631
>CB
>6'0
>Jumping Reach 12
>Heading 8
>Teamwork 9
He needs to improve in the air tbf
You lads seen this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ii5jEMqsLY
some quality saves in it
>>66362613
>>66362686
>40 years later the best Dutch players are pacey niggers and le cut inside men
>>66362631
BPD training for a couple years, then switch over to regular centre back training
like butters says he's not the tallest guy who's ever played that position, but I'd imagine he'll get up to 13 jumping reach, which should be enough as long as his partner is taller
>>66362839
hey that's pretty good
>>66362865
>LvG
I can't believe the guy who's shitting Manure and has shitted Riquelme's career is also the guy behind one of the most aesthetic and fluid formations at Ajax.
>>66362922
yeah it is, the last save has a vine:
https://vine.co/v/ipXWITqwZaQ
really nice saves and great video
>>66361961
;_;
>finally achieved my goal of promotion from the lowest-tier to the PL after years of trying (because I usually rage quit before the end of the third season)
>lost all desire to continue playing the game
Thanks, I think I'm finally done with it.
>>66363048
Congratulations, Shinji!
>>66363048
congrats.
next up winning EPL and CL and building best club in world
>He won't want to dwell on it
>But it was a terrible miss
>>66363048
You started in the 23th tier?
>snatch up 4.5 star regen from slavistan
>training underwhelming for 2 years
>contract is coming up
>demands are stupid, give him a take it or leave it offer
>his agent says no
>decide "fuck it" time to sell for profit before next transfer window
>get distracted
>club snatches him up on a free transfer the day the 6 month mark hits
Set Training: Long Throws - Light.
I like to think I've made him just chase balls that go out of bounds during the team's training and throw them back.
>>66363289
>not keeper
>>66363325
you can't do that anymore, can you?
my usual go-to is retraining them as wingers
>>66362839
>"that's a big hand, mate"
what did he mean by this?
>>66363345
damn you do hate wingers dont you
>>66363356
>"that's a big hand, mate"
;)
>>66363345
You can't? Dunno, I don't let anyone worth a penny leave for free
>>66363371
Well he is Canadian.
we did it lads
>>66363356
he should have replied
>for you
>>66363379
what is the canadian wingers meme exactly
>>66362839
It takes a special type of person to do that shit every day for 20 years
This could actually be a fun db. I'd just need a good old limitation to 3 foreign players and I'd probably play that for shit and giggles.
>tfw Guardiola keeps taking over at clubs after I've left and winning with my old squad
FUCK OFF PEP
>>66363424
well it takes a special type of person to be a goalkeeper
>>66363286
It's 23rd you fucking foreigner
>>66363443
Maybe I'm just living up to stereotypes, but being a keeper is fun as fuck.
>>66363470
it actually is I used to play it lel
but being 2 short ended it for me
>>66363441
destroy the club before you leave
>>66363380
congrats m80
Oh yes.
>>66363441
sign zlatan every time, just before you leave
Where do I go now?
I'm torn between Fiorentina and Marseille.
Ligue 1 is extremely competitive now, since Lille and Stade Rennais both had a tycoon takeover, but I've always liked Fiorentina because Rui Costa and Nuno Gomes played there
what do
>terrible at FM16
>finally get a tactic to work
>Unbeaten until Jan playing great football
>10 losses and two draws in next 12 games
>same tactic
>same players
Ho ho, Miles. You got me again.
Who else like to coach clubs from really shitty countries, like Faroe Islands or San Marino ?
I'm not even good enough to make Dortmund win the C1 but every country that has its championship in the top 50 has become too boring for me
>>66363555
It's your tactics.
>>66363529
I've decided to have a few years with Spain, but that's a good idea.
>>66363617
Makes your tactics more vital because everyone is pretty shit
>>66363620
That's the problem. What fucking world is he living in where 100% of a teams success is down to their tactics? Harry Redknapp didn't even deploy tactics when he led Spurs to 4th. He'd set a formation and pick the players. That was it.
Don't even get me started on how fucking retarded telling a player to play as a Trequartista is.
>>66363660
just hoof it
>>66363644
Yes it's quite easy to destabilize other teams once you have """decent""" players.
"My 4-4-1-1 isn't working ? Time to try the good ol' 4-3-1-2"
Too bad it doesn't work once you qualify to european competitions
didn't notice this when it was happening, but that is some impressively dodgy dealing
4 years later he went back to italy for less than 1/4 of that transfer fee
Just signed this guy for 2 million, how did I do?
>>66363742
Wrong island dude. Enjoy having him show up in training in a Drag Queen costume.
>>66363742
>60 FPS
kek
it's settled then, time to dethrone juventus
>>66363901
>Turns 31 next birthday
>2024
What kind of reputation and badges did you choose for your avatar?
>>66363660
>What fucking world is he living in where 100% of a teams success is down to their tactics?
It isn't though, its down to player happiness, fatigue, squad cohesion, a ton of things.
Its your tactics is just a /trb/ meme because it was really the only thing Miles could say to pleb players who would start as someone like Barca and still lose half their games and complain like the game was at fault. They had no appreciation for the fact that there was hundreds of different things that weight the match engine and whilst tactics are very significant ultimately the player complaining had probably done something incredibly stupid.
>4 goals against his old club
almost enough to make me feel guilty
>>66364008
RIP
I'm simulating a Yugoslavia user db to see what happens. Dominating Slovenia was fun but a bit easy; might as well raise the bar. Not ditching the "old" save, just gonna see what happens.
>>66363959
Started off at Benfica, so I chose fitting rep and badges (which is max for both)
>It can now be reported that Adam Johnson was arrested for possessing extreme pornography - bestiality - on his laptop last year
did he visit the chan lads?
>>66364063
>beast
>pedo
Seems it
>>66364054
So basically a guy who was a very precocious star but got cruciate ligaments at 22 or something and became a coach? Realistic, it's like I'm reading a Gary Stu version of Giant Killing.
what kind of roles do you guys set up the midfield triangle as in a 4-1-2-3? kinda fancy a REGISTA boys, is the role any good?
>>66364261
Regista are great if you have a good player for the role. You'll want a DM or Anchorman next to him otherwise you'll get shafted by counters.
>>66364261
Registas don't defend, ever. IRL it's because they're usually crippled old playmakers (Pirlo), so SI has replicated that in the game. They're basically deeper, modern Enganches: since they don't play just behind the strikers they are not marked by 6s (especially against a 433/451/442 diamond, etc.) as easily as usual 10s. You'll need high Workrate defensive mids alongside them, who are willing to run after every ball and support the attack. Box2Box or BWM are for me the choices.
>Premier League final day
>3 teams can still win it
>Should be tense as fuck with all the 3 going all out to win
>They all lose
Bunch of clowns
>2 players born in Dob in the slovenia starting XI
>they actually win for once
coincidence? no.
>CR7 goes baby-shopping
>Again
If Penaldo could literally clone and fuck himself, he'd do it. He's not even homosexual at this point, he's cristianosexual. Maybe except for pic related.
>>66365036
he seems to live a life where a vagina holds no influence over him, he literally doesnt need woman for anything other than a baby
wish the same could be said for the rest of us kek
what did he mean by this?
la liga teams go bankrupt in like 10 years....why doesn't Miles fix this?
DON'T PAY FOR THIS SHIT.
>>66365105
He probably never wanks himself to preserve his gains.
FM noob here, in my third season, just set up a scouting network
15-18 year olds 4+ star hot prospects in england, france, germany, spain, italy, argentina, brazil, east europe, scandinavia, plus my head scout on the whole world
where else should I look?
>>66365208
Pick up cheap 15 year old negros from France.
Where do you manage?
>>66365208
a lot of great players come from west africa, but scouts tend not to do a very good job of finding them. you might want to check the national teams (and u-20 national teams) of ghana, cote d'ivoire, nigeria etc. every year or two for good young players, and request reports on them individually
>>66365280
Spurs
>>66365286
Thanks. I figured that area of the world would be hard, same with China. How do I even find scouts with Africa or China knowledge?
>>66365280
>Pick up cheap 15 year olds
Adam please
>In response to a question about whether the Republic of Ireland players will be joined by their wives and girlfriends at Euro 2016 in France this summer, manager Martin O'Neill says: "If they are really attractive, they are very, very welcome. The uglier ones, I'm afraid not."
top MON
>>66365208
>where else should I look?
http://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-scouting-regions-nations-youth-rating/
>>66365311
it's pretty hard. honestly, you might not want to bother, scouts do so poorly at finding players from there.
just check their national teams (or the squads of major clubs) by yourself once every couple years, and if you see a player that looks to be good (even if you can't see attributes you can look at their value, their number of appearances and/or match ratings, their age relative to the rest of the squad, etc.) you can request for a scout to follow that player individually for 2 weeks/1 month/whatever it takes
if you want to build up a base level of knowledge for the region and can't find a scout with pre-existing knowledge, just pick any scout with high adaptability and give them an ongoing assignment to that region. just don't rely on that assignment to find players.
>>66365377
Merci ma famille
>>66365381
I see. Thanks very much. I assume I have to add a lot more nations to my save for any of this to work as well, yes?
>>66365406
No, not really, although I'd recommend playing with a large (or at least medium) sized database
>>66365349
Shit ive been found out
>>66365444
Oh, so I get newgens from all over the world regardless of what leagues I have for my database..? Then what is the point of the database, if I'm not looking to sign any existing players
>>66365499
>newgens
Stop that. They'll always be regens regardless of the fact that term is not exactly accurate now.
Yeah you get them from all around the world but if you don't have the league loaded then it won't properly simulate the league and matches which can mean stunted development and also fewer regens as the league mainly uses fake, grey players.
>>66365499
>so I get newgens from all over the world regardless of what leagues I have for my database..?
Not really. Newgens/regens comes from your country mainly, but depending of your scouts' knowledge and nationalities in the staff regarding youth players, you may get some foreign newgens. Once I had a French regen in Slovenia. I don't have the screen cuz' he was shit and I released him, it it can happen.
this is my database as of now
>>66365499
>Oh, so I get newgens from all over the world regardless of what leagues I have for my database..?
Right
>Then what is the point of the database, if I'm not looking to sign any existing players
Loaded countries get far more players, although roughly the same percentage of good vs. passable vs. bad
Loaded countries also have games that are properly simulated, so players will develop properly. Useful for clubs there, also useful for you if you want to loan players out to those clubs, since guys in non-loaded leagues tend to stagnate a little
You'll also end up with weird situations in continental club games or international matches with non-loaded countries, particularly if you choose to use a small database, where their teams will only have 4-5 players, and the rest of the spots in the squad are filled by greyed-out "virtual" players who have no club history, can't be transferred, etc.
>Until he retired last year, Colombia's Gerardo Bedoya was the world's dirtiest player.
>And he looks set to keep up his bad-boy reputation in his new coaching career.
>His 46 sendings off in a 17-year playing career earned him the record for the most red cards in football - as well as the nickname "the beast"
>Bedoya's 41st suspension, which came after elbowing then kicking an opponent in the head, earned the defender an 11-game ban.
>This week, Bedoya, 40, was appointed assistant boss of Colombian side Independiente Santa Fe on Tuesday - his first senior coaching role.
>Santa Fe's first game, on Wednesday, brought a 3-2 win against Atletico Junior.
>Unfortunately Bedoya - who played 49 times for his country - was not there to join in the celebrations at the end of the game.
>He was sent to the stands after 19 minutes.
Aggression: 99999
>>66365559
you've probably loaded more than you need to there.
I like to pick the top 4-5 countries (spain, england, germany, france, italy; sometimes portugal, russia, and netherlands too) and a few countries geographically relevant to wherever I'm managing (in england that might be scotland, ireland, and belgium or whatever)
beyond that, selecting large database for the world and choosing the "generate players from top level clubs" for europe is usually good enough
>>66365579
Wow, worse than Cyril Rool, that's quite an achievement.
>>66365626
OK, I'll remove a bunch of the lower leagues from the lesser nations, add top divisions from Scandinavia and Colombia and a few others, and that should do it
>>66365687
just looked up tomas repka and saw he got "only" 19 red cards. disappointing return
Well this Yugo db provides no surprises. I think I'm supposed to simulate for two years or something tho'. Time to try another one that has more clubs in the top divisions and is overall very similar in structure to EPL.
We're in the Championship, Everton are 19th place in the Prem. I'm scared that they're gonna take back God King Okey Okafor. Please hold me
>>66365579
Top lad
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iirNXFfySIY
>>66365848
>10 in 12
based acornhead
what the hell
does this happen to everyone? SI wishful thinking or random event?
>>66365881
I like how everyone crowds around him and the ref, leaving the guy he elbowed then kicked lying on the turf to sort himself out
>>66365927
I think that's a feature in fm16. from what I've heard it picks a new host at random
>>66363901
Are you after me own heart? Because if you do you succeed spectacularly.
>>66365579
>>66365687
Eduardo Pimentel had 33 red cards and 10 sanctions as manager
>>66365927
Yeah its fixed to always get moved from Qatar in FM16. Totally random where it ends up though.
>>66365959
Rui Costa was my kiddie idol
>>66365768
>>66365962
To be fair, Rool didn't have the "luck" to be a NT player. That would've been fun.
>Imagine Rool and Zidane destroying Materashit's knees
Getting moist 2bh.
Today is Jessica Chastain's birthday btw
Man, Fiore's finances are in the shitter.
>>66365377
>http://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-scouting-regions-nations-youth-rating/
>Russia that high
This I'll never understand.
Higher than Croatia and Portugal and FUCKING NETHERLAND?
WHAT THE FUCK?
This huge fat fucker did a cartwheel, how can you say FM is a sim? 233 pounds ffs
http://i.imgur.com/2g2CNvK.png
>>66366378
>Canada: Unimportant
Poor MF.
>>66366378
I've always understood youth rating as having to do with a nation's potential.
IIRC Russia, Egypt and Mexico always look "overrated" but they have huge populations and the clubs have bad facilities/youth recruitment to balance it out. Like Russian regens in-game are not actually that good
>>66366447
My saved are always filled with Russians and Mexican with around 170 PA
>>66366394
He's lucky he wasn't the first footballer to be forced into retirement because of exploding elbows.
>>66366447
African nations have a literal shitton of GOATs in 16, they must have changed the algorithm.
>>66366378
In my experience, Netherlands has never made a world class player, I don't know why
In my current save I'd say the number of players with 190 PA had been
>Germany - 8
>Argentina - 4
>Brazil/ England/ France - 3
>Colombia/ Mexico/ Spain - 2
>Wales/ Greece/ Portugal/ Scotland/ Ukraine/ Russia/ Egypt - 1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35894881
RIP Martin O'Neill's career
>>66366642
I kind of like the system for Russia and Mexico, it reflects a couple real-life things I've heard mexicans complain about.
In FM, the players with elite potential are more likely to start with a low CA (junior coaching) and more likely to stay too long in the weak domestic league. There are very restrictive foreign player limits and the clubs can pay
>>66366378
It's balanced somewhat with the fact that none of the Russian teams have very good youth systems and the AI is usualy too dumb to upgrade them even if they have a lot of money, which lot of Russian clubs do.
They still produce better players than in real life, though.
Post manger profile list
>>66366652
Just in case you want to see what a Dutch GOAT looks like
>>66366776
But Özil is German.
>>66366776
Pic related
>>66366642
>African nations have a literal shitton of GOATs in 16, they must have changed the algorithm.
Well, that's pretty realistic - the thing is that most young African players get sidetracked and never live up to their potential
>>66366792
>winger
triggered canadian in 3..2..1
I can't cope with this shit anymore. Every fucking time this happens. If I don't score, the opposition don't score, but if I do, whether it's 1 goal or 4, whether it's Swansea or City, they'll fucking match it.
Where's UTV?
>>66366856
I can't think of a solution mate, I'm drawing a blank.
>>66366856
>Team above you are 3 points ahead
>You've been in shit form
>They've been in shit form
>You finally win
>So do they
>You draw
>So do they
>They lose
>So do you
>They win
>You lose
That's my biggest annoyance.
>>66366856
git good
>>66366378
>Indonesia
>1.5 stars
>important
Good to know that although we're shit, we're an important kind of shit.
>>66366901
I do, every first half, I do.
I seriously do not know how to hold a lead.
>>66366888
Fortunately, as you can see from the table, everyone else is a slightly lower level of average than I am.
>>66366954
ikyf. I've tried anything as well.
>>66366652
I had more Belgian GOAT than Dutch.
I can even remember a Korean 190 PA.
My Spurs save has a belgian one, I also suspect my Welsh AM to be higher than 180
>>66366852
I don't understand why I'd be triggered by a great wingback
i really struggle to motivate myself to play this game
can someone give me a fun challenge to do (nothing too hard) that'll make me actually want to play for more than a season please
Anyone watching Italy x Spain on RAI/whatever?
>>66367171
manage in south america where they have two short tournaments
>>66367171
Win World Cup with Macau.
Guess the score
>>66367171
Bring a midtable team to CL glory
that's as basic as it gets
>>66367225
2-3
>>66367171
Win Euro 2016 only using white players with France.
>>66367225
4-1(or 2)
>>66367225
1-1
>>66367190
>Playing with La Equidad
>Libertadores+Cup+League
>4 matches the same week; 3 in 4 days
>only 24 players, 3 were injured and 4 were kids
>>66367225
3-3
>>66367225
I dunno the score, but I bet dozens of girls were raped during that match in Rotherham.
>>66367225
7-1 senpai
>>66367171
win the libertadores with a peruvian side
>>66367171
Try to make 500 million in transfer revenue in one window
>>66367274
A-are you w-watching me?
>>66367290
Let's have a look at Parra
>>66367315
the great debate
>>66367227
which midtable team would you recommend m8
>>66367380
What league would you prefer?
>Player who pulled his hamster finally fit enough for the bench
>Put him on for the last 10 minutes
>Wins a penalty
>Scores it
Absolutely based.
>tfw he never has a good season ever again
>>66367399
perhaps germany, only played there once
>>66367356
>99
disgusting
>>66366994
I don't even know anymore...
>>66367356
>71 goals from 60 caps
Fucking hell
>>66367410
Germany is easy since you get lots of dosh from just partaking in the league, but whatever floats your boat m8
Do Stuttgart for example
>>66367410
I always pick Eintracht or Hertha in Germany
>Managing Spain
>Win the International League in 1st year
>Win Euros in 2nd year
>Win Confederations Cup in 3rd year
>Gearing up for the World Cup
>England offer me the job
Should I stab Spain in the back and manage England at the World Cup lads?
>Corner comes in
>Goalkeeper spazzes off his line so I know I'm going to concede
>Can easily catch it
>Punches it off the defender instead
>Defender stops it on the line
>Maybe I was wrong
>Plays a one two on the line with another defender
>No opp near them
>FUCKING CLEAR IT!
>CB turns sideways and smashes it straight into his own goal
Thanks SI.
>>66367603
Choose England, Spain doesn't deserve another WC
>>66367603
hardly stabbing them in the back if you won them the yuros as well as two lesser tournaments. they'll probably get someone like pep and make it at least to the semis anyway. I say go for it
what kinda central midfield pairing should i be using in a 4-2-3-1? thinking of going with 2 CM-s for now but I'm feeling like that's a bit shit already
>>66363742
Pretty good as long as you play him at DLF.
>>66367660
>they'll probably get someone like pep
>>66363441
>Angry twitching intensifies
>>66367685
something holding, something pressing or linking
CM-D alongside BWM-S or BBM is standard, I think
>>66367685
I normally have some success with a BBM and DLP(d) or a BWM(d) and DLP(d), depending on who I'm playing against.
>>66367710
oh shit
better make sure you really do stab them in the back in that case, although I'm not sure how much you can piss off players at a national team level
as a side note, has the match preparation thing been fixed for national teams? do players actually learn the tactics you've selected now, or are they still forever stuck at 'unfamiliar'?
>>66367454
I wonder if FM calculates in its formula that some players overperform and others underperform for their nation
like how Steve Gerrard would always underperform for England and Lampard always carried the team on his back
>>66367685
BWM(D) and BBM
>>66367765
No, match preparation is absolutely fucked at international level. You have to either play 442 and have players know what the formation is or play anything else and watch them wander about like retards in a mirror maze.
On a related note AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Player plays as enganche because it's his best position
>2 slices short of a whole pie
>Put him there just now
>2 pieces of pie and suddenly can't play there
What the fuck.
JAMEMES
>>66367763
>>66367712
>>66367773
going for a bwm and a dlp-d, let's see how this turns out eh
starting a new save as HSV, how the fuck do i reduce the wage spending? am i just gonna have to sell some players?
>>66367685
CMs and BBM if you want possession.
Any defensive role will constantly make you lose possession
>>66367897
HSV or HSV? :^)
but yeah, probably. do you have a bunch of old guys on huge wages?
>>66367966
hsv :^)
probably yeah i've not really looked properly yet
losing my first friendly 2-0 with a basic 4-2-3-1 formation and no instructions, this hasn't gone too well
tfw want to learn how to fix tictac but don't even know where to begin
>>66367863
will the hamez meme ever end?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/03/22/zlatan-ibrahimovic-ended-my-england-career-before-it-had-started/
zlataned
>>66368055
>hide post
Which one is better?
>>66368088
>autism
>>66368143
>aerial reach: 10
>doesn't have insane sweeper-keeper rushing out skills to make up for it
right
>>66368143
I choose death.
>>66367410
Bochum.
how important is determination?
>>66368180
Okay. I'll use him as first choice then.
>>66368284
one of the key parts that I want in my youth players I buy
If a player's upset because you stopped him from moving to a club playing continental football, will qualifying for continental football shut him up? Or is he just going to whine until I let him go?
>>66368284
I'd tell you but I'm not determined enough to bother typing it all out
>>66368284
You won't achieve anything in life without my friend
>>66368299
this guy worth the price tag?
>>66368316
>>66368321
har har har
>>66368284
hard question to answer, but quite important. it's more important at really low levels when everyone is terrible at everything and the winning team is usually the one that tries a little more, but even at the top level, a player with 20 determination is so much more reliable than a guy with 7 or 8
>>66368334
i'd say no.
shit bravery concentration and positioning would not fug
>>66368334
My slightly joking answer was essentially telling what you needed to know though.
If they aren't determined then they won't be fucked to work hard in training, work hard on the pitch etc, etc so yeah its pretty important.
>>66368365
mentals unlikely to improve much?
>>66368334
maybe, probably not, it's hard to say. I don't think it's worth buying players for determination alone, since you can increase it using tutoring or warnings/fines, but occasionally (not always) it's associated with really high-potential players
he doesn't look particularly amazing even for his age, but have your scouts watch him for a month or so, and see if they think he's an exceptional talent.
>>66368377
determination doesn't effect training
>>66368394
with right tutor they will.
But he is underdeveloped in my opinion and you should be capable in finding better players than him.
team and league?
>>66368334
He'll turn out decent. If you have a large budget you could buy him and let him sit in the youth for a few years then flip him for profit
>>66368439
I don't know, that's why I'm asking. I'm new to FM, played FM11 at a friend's house once, got FM16 on sale. I'm an actual football player IRL (amateur, don't get too excited) and I'm pretty good at football knowledge, but I'm lacking in FM knowledge. I don't know the ins and outs of the video game stat part, if that makes sense?
Board handed me a ridiculous 90m transfer budget for my third season after a ludicrously easy CL run in my 2nd season (Juve, Ajax, Arsenal, Man City). I'm looking to shift out basically all of my non-regen youth players below 3 star potential and fill my U18/21s with regen 4+ star hopefuls for that big pile o cash.
Thanks for the feedback.
>>66368469
Thanks, that's sort of what I was thinking.
>>66368516
cash really isn't much of an object when managing in england, as you're finding. so I guess there's no risk in signing youth players that might not turn out great, but on the other hand the 4-5m profits you'll make off them if you decide to sell is just a waste of time
you're probably better off holding out for the absolute top talents unless you really need a bunch of backup players for some reason
>>66368516
hm yes but what team do you manage?
And no worries if you dont know the ins out, we all start somewhere.
Only fill your u18/u21 with 4*+ hopefulls if your youth training is up to scratch.
For the rest england is easy mode for managing, massive influx of money etc.
I'm getting this guy even if he isn't top talent, just look at that name
>>66368564
>>66368586
Yeah, I have noticed.
Managing Spurs btw
I'm not really interested in taking a tier 8 team to the Premiership, I just want to develop top young talent in my favourite club. It's a fun game to play even if I haven't set myself up with a massive challenge.
>>66368591
There is literally always some Brazilian regen called Baby. Usually there are quite a few so you could probably find a decent one if you tried.
>>66368629
fair enough. just bear in mind that managing a bloated squad can get really frustrating. when all those guys turn 20 and start demanding first team appearances, transfers, and loans, it can get annoying fast. that's why people usually sign only a few really good players as opposed to a bunch of fairly good players, but that doesn't mean to say it's the only way.
>>66368629
ok well then search for young goats lel
high determination workrate and concentration
with the relevant technical and mental skills for each position
>>66368648
Dude should be retired tbqh.
>>66368690
Daily reminder that these attributes have 0 impact on development.
>>66368284
A player with 20 determination will always give a shit about his career, so he will always perform at 100% of his capabilities.
he just turned sixteen a few weeks ago
Excellent goal from italy desu
>España
what is PA and is 149 a good pa?
>>66368951
shit. I'd given up on that game, assuming 5pa1n would grind out a 1-0
>>66368629
The funniest part with Spurs is selling your players for retardedly high fees before watching fail hard everywhere else.
At least it was the case for every player I sold. Chadli ended up in L1 after being sold 25m to Roma. Bentaleb played like ten games or Juventus after being sold 45m. Kondogbia to Juventus? 38m after I bought him for 5, he never had an average higher than 6.80 or them. Bought Konoplyanka for 17m, sold him for almost 80m to PSG and he never played more than 10 games for them in one season.
The list goes longer.
>Italia
I obviously can't leave this wog out of the team (Championship), but am I wrong when I say his attributes are...kind of shit? He's not even developing that much either
>>66368961
>chillywave
>>66368988
bait
>>66369042
both goals were laffs tbf.
>>66369023
spen had 3 guys offside 2bf
>>66369017
I know what you mean. Man Utd wanted to buy Eriksen for 54m. PSG wanted half my squad basically.
>>66369044
not fucking bait is 149 good pa what is the limit m8?
>>66368988
149 is decent for the PL.
>>66369080
Fucking hell thanks, i have a regen with this and i'm in the bloody Irish premier league
>>66369102
>using Geniescout
>>66367991
If the season hasn't started yet you want to change your training to focus on cohesion so they get used to your tactics quicker, I'm not sure how intense to have the training though, I normally have high or very high preseason, but I normally end up with injuries because of it.
>>66369114
Nah, mate i'm using some other tool i bought as i wanted to change my pitch dimensions as i made a mistake pr eseason, just had a cheeky peek
>>66369067
It will slow up in a few seasons, qualifying for isn't hard at all, and you'll probably achieve it in your first season. I think I only failed to do it once, and last year (2020) I won the title with more than 100 points with Messi and Bale in the squad.
Spurs are really not challenging at all.
If I set a player for Sell or Release with £0 min, my Director of Football will actually sell them for around their value first, right?
>>66369176
Yeah I came in 2nd first season, somehow got 3 away goals in the away leg at Juve in the CL ro16, then only had to defeat Ajax, Arsenal and Man City to win the CL in my second season.
There is real talent at the club, as you can see IRL.
>Bale
When will RM be willing to sell him? Into my third season now, and he just signed a new contract. It's a wet dream of mine to see Bale back at Spurs with Kane, Dier and Alli
>>66369155
>buying FMRTE
>>66369155
>cheeky peek
>>66369120
>>66369176
Did you really delete your post because you missed one letter?
>>66369120
>>66369176
qualifying for what?
>>66369155
>no officer it wasn't murder. just a cheeky assassination
Insigne is running things for Italy senpai
What the fuck is this shit, PA never changes right? Just the coaches' evaluation of him? Weird wording.
>>66369155
a sneaky peak?
>>66369224
Correct but he may have had reservations about how much of his potential he was going to fulfil
>>66369189
Bought him back in 2019.
I never won the CL, my players always choke hard against Bayern and Chelsea.
Especially Chelsea I never beat Mourinho when it really matters.
>>66369219
been looking v sharp
>>66369205
Two.
>>66369206
I managed to fuck up twice.
For CL
>one of my friend was literally arguing that Zaza was just as good if not better than Kane
kek
>>66369230
It was pretty cheeky desu, shouldn't have done it but couldn't help it he's 16 and is my best goalkeeper already, also lads dont buy fmrte if you want to change your pitch dimensions doesn't work ffs.
Does anyone know if the ingame ediotr will do the trick?
>>66369363
>buying FMRTE
WHY FOR GOD'S SAKE?
>>66369316
Highlight of last season
Although Svennis was in charge, not Mourinho, lel
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>>66369378
I said why anon, look i didn't want to either but i had no choice
>>66369440
JUST FUCKING PIRATE IT
There's no reason to give those fucking jews any of your pennies.
FMRTE used to be free.
Why are my players allowed to reject loans to affilate clubs
>tfw testimonials are so much fun
>>66369497
>t. Roman Abramovich
>>66369465
Too late now anon, but yeah i should of, doubt they'll give me a refund
>>66369497
because they're not your slaves
>>66369497
>Why are people allowed to choose where they work?
Maybe your little shithole still endorses slavery but the rest of the world look down on that nowadays
>>66369552
I'm a premier league side and a youngsters says he feels it would be a good idea to go on loan so I offer him on loan to Glasgow Rangers of Scottish Premiership fame and he rejects it
>>66369576
Maybe he's catholic
>>66369576
>wasting a season in rainy la liga
>>66369576
I wouldn't want to go to Glasgow either.
Only reason to ever go there is if you like having broken bottles or needles inserted into you.
And I guess deep fried mars bars.
>>66369625
but what about the armadillo?
>>66369616
>>66369625
If he wants first team football on loan and I go through all the administrative efforts of right clicking > move to affilate to fill in his demand, where he will serve as an important first team player - then he should accept it.
Note that they didn't land any on demand loan offers, so it's either this or staying in the reserve squad another year.
I just don't think that's a realistic situation bros. It's not like I'm trying ship off established first teamers or something
>>66369710
It is though, players reject loans to certain cities/leagues all the time because the city is a shithole or the league unattractive to them.
Ospina clattered in the Bolivia Colombia game and doesn't look too sharp although he is playing on.
ripip Wenger
>>66369527
>assman schedules testimonial for mediocre striker
>he's injured when it happens
>the team gets thumped 3-0 by basel
>>66369811
>not getting to play a team of your legends
10-9 and everyone has fun
>>66369754
I don't think it's true
Chelsea ships a bus load of players off to Vitesse every year and it seems like their decision, I don't know if the players have that much say in it
>>66369831
is this a new fm16 feature?
in 15 they're just regular friendlies with a couple different lines of commentary/news text, as far as I can tell
>>66369858
Holland has wedds
>>66369858
Well you can argue that FM doesn't really give you the chance to say "hey this league isn't that bad, you'll get guaranteed playing time and it'll be great for your development compared to being rotation in out U21s" which is probably what teams like Chelsea say to their kids but ultimately it is the players decision if they want to go or not and obviously each league has its own rep and each city its own attractiveness rating so if its a low rep league and an unattractive city they will almost always turn it down.
>>66369879
No, that was my evening today
>>66369858
that agreement has been in place for a while, hasn't it? they probably joined chelsea knowing they'd spend a year or two at vitesse
Colombia so lucky
>>66369858
>I don't know if the players have that much say in it
They already know they're off on a loan there when they sign for Chelsea. Mario Pašalić had a clause in his contract that limited Chelsea's option of loaning him to a handful of leagues
>(Asked to leave) No competition for places
haven't seen this before. is he mad about the team not competing for a significant "place" in the league, or is he actually upset that he's the team's only real centre forward?
>>66370018
yeah
currently they have solanke, isaiah brown, nathan, lewis and pantic on loan. the way chelsea do it is they assess a player and based on where they're at they'll loan them to vitesse (that's like the starter pack), or if they're better they'll look for another team in a stronger league (ake at watford, bamford at norwich, musonda at betis, christensen at monchengladblach)
i would like to emulate this model, but it frustrates me that if you offer a guy on loan to clubs sometimes nobody will respond even if you're offer them for free and they're eager to go and talented, so then i try building some affilates in various leagues so I can just send them there and then they don't want to go
>>66370194
I agree, I've never had much success with FM's loan system. In my current save I have a fairly large pool of backup-quality young players (mostly youth academy kids). I'd like to keep some of them at the club as subs/rotation options and loan some of them out, so basically I just offer all of them out, and figure out my squad based on the 2-3 responses I get. There doesn't seem to be any pattern - it isn't the best players that get interest, it isn't the same players or the same clubs every year, it's just something like a 1 in 4 chance that a player offered for a free loan will actually garner interest.
If you have one player in particular you're wanting to ship out, it's annoying as fuck
>>66370323
I hate when you don't pay attention to someone who's actually pretty decent and he gets like 2 games in half a season at Scunthorpe
Is it possible to find parent club when I'm 10 years advance in day? Every time my club cannot find any parent club. That's actually sad :/
>>66367290
Jesus, how did you motivate them to take that many shots.
My players always go into cruise control once we're up by 3 or 4, no matter what I say.
>>66370798
>Assertively: 'I not happy with your performance so far'
>>66370798
the trick is to buy all the best players in the world your scouts can find
i hate this loan system
When your star 30 year old ST snaps his fucking leg...
Might as well take him out back and shoot him.
>>66370918
>i hate this loan system
B team system is the best 2bh. Rep system fucks the loan system hard
>>66370177
>actually upset that he's the team's only real centre forward
That one. I've had it a few times, some players thrive better under a bit of competition but yeah its kinda annoying they get so annoyed about it but I guess you could view it as a lot of pressure on them since it implies the team may flop if he got injured or played badly.
>tfw hadn't won in 11 matches
>tfw still untouchable
These must really have been expecting a season long raping.
I hate youth system.
Because den bosch u19 are not even invited to the fucking youth league
>>66362470
>a qt edited
3/10 on the Ukraine
What's on in the background /trb/?
I've got the fire on watching man on fire. Comfy.
>>66371818
Man on Fire fills my tears with cry evry tim.
>Not watching Cursed
>1 win in 11 games for me
>Sporting just choked and lost 2-0 away to Guimaraes
just fucking kill me
>>66371844
Just finished Dawn of the Planet of the Apes on film4 and it came on afterwards. Pretty good back-to-back by film4 standards
>>66371818
Leafs/Ducks
>>66371902
I agree, you normally only get one good film every few days on Film4.
>mfw Virgin "rewarded" me with Sky Movies at no additional cost for no reason
I don't understand why, but it's pretty based of them plus I always have something to watch now.
>>66371944
>tribbling in the park
>>66371226
interesting. it's not my players, I guess I've never kept my squad small enough to encounter it. it does make sense that it exists but I can't help thinking it'd be annoying as piss - the team in question has a couple wingers and AMCs that can play striker, it just isn't their primary position
>>66371818
Watching Chile score headers vs Argentina, listening to Nasheed trap, petting the pup, and firing up my save lad
h-here i go
>>66372424
good luck, Dani
>20 mins in
>2 subs used already
bravo Chili
>>66372679
They were already missing some players through injury right?
Shame they have Venezuela next, was hoping for an upset.
wow
Does Molenbeek have any clubs at all? Wanna win the CL with guys who don't mind isis that much
>>66372424
>Pepe
murderballing your way into europe I see
>>66372771
Why is Messi-kun so good, anon?
>>66372974
Every homosexual act Ronaldo commits he loses a little power and Messi absorbs it.
Sudacas play such great footy, you've got to love both Texas and Argentina
>>66373034
That's a lot of power desu
>>66373034
Does wanking in front of a mirror count?
'no'
>tfw you check out every league's matchups every week and watch every single game between two good teams whenever possible to get as much unbiased tactical input as possible
if only I could be this dedicated and autistic with important things
>>66373201
memeing it up lad
fuck
THANK YOU ESTORIL
>I went to the zoo
What did he mean by this?
I'm serious is that a common phrase or euphemism? I don't think I've ever heard that.
I don't get it, surely he can't literally mean he fucked up his knee and then just went to the zoo
>>66373485
>GD +2
give the 4th place trophy back to guimaraes you filthy thief
>>66373542
it means he screamed in pain basically, like a chimpanzee or something. so briefly he became a zoo animal/went to the zoo
>>66373605
>>66373605
Ah right. Thanks. Still I don't think I've ever heard that before. What a weird phrase.
>>66373542
That is kind of stupid. You're an elite tennis player....you hear a click and see swell and you are seeing your doc toot sweet.
>tfw age rears it's ugly head
Remember seeing my dad tear his hamstring after only stepping up on a streetside curb. Shit like that is why I try to stay in shape, but there's only so much you can do.
>>66373655
>I bought it.
Still not sure he wrong though.
>tfw confused
>>66373686
we all decay and die anon
>>66373725
>we all decay and die anon
What if our lives are just a projection of our eventual lives while we gestate in our mothers' womb, only to forget what we've experienced when we're eventually "born".
>>66373769
Nah, coming out of your mum's pussy was an unforgettable experience m8
>>66373800
>m8
>>66373800
I don't have any siblings m8 :^)
>>66373825
>siblings
ok
I'm still implying I banged your mum though
>>66373901
That's not what I was implying though.
Which was the joke.
>>66373901
now you're stating it
>>66373824
You must be new here
what's the best hair pack for FM16? invisible ears are getting on my nerves
>>66373925
Yeah I got it like immediately after I posted but felt like deleting my post was the cowards way out.
Have you given your underrated regens a chance today?
>>66374000
It generally is, yeah.
what
>>66374125
>Anzhi? Makhachkala?
>Anzhi? Makhachkala?
is this SI's version of calling someone "literally who" or "full time plumbers"?
>I got knocked out of the europa league by Baník? Ostrava?
>>66374174
it's like Paul Merson is reading the article and trying to figure out how to pronounce it
>>66374174
>>66374162
It's the name fix, not SI
>>66374284
>it's not SI
Let's not jump to conclusions, now.
>>66374284
Makes? Sense?
>>66374284
>not SI
>>66374311
I went to the zoo already
haha time for championship with a 17 player squad
How well does a 5-3-2 work in this game? or a 5-1DM-2-2? Or a 5-2-1-2?
All with two wingbcks.
hell, I just woke up after sleeping like 4 hours because I was sweating and coughing all over. I'm talking so much sweat that it looks like I've pissed the bed
time for night /trb/ I guess
my real madrid reject is starting to turn out well
>>66374474
>17 player squad
>>66374474
sign some players my man
>>66374474
this is suicide
>>66374474
time for yoof
>>66374474
doing it right
rotation is a meme
>>66374503
>>66374555
>>66374570
>>66374594
>>66374610
>tfw
oh shit I forgot about the Euro
>Netherlands btfo again by Portugal
>England knocked out by Portugal on pens again
>>66374648
time for relegation
>>66374665
>no battle of nuremberg 2: electric boogaloo
disappointed
>>66374648
just reload whenever injuries happen.
(^:
>>66374739
>Not using your fully paid version of FMRTE to remove injuries
bets are on lads
who will win the final?
>only 3 reds
>all in the first 5 games of the season
what a lad
>>66374783
>that formation
No one, hopefully.
>>66374764
>fully paid version
>not cheating to get your cheating software
>>66374783
Portugal leads 1-0
>>66374783
Belgium to confuse and win
>thorgan over lukaku
>>66374799
> aggression only 14
step it up miles
>>66374783
Both sides pretty cheesetastic but Belgium probably the biggest cheese nation so I'd plump for them
>>66374783
>>66374842
it's ogre
>>66374901
>>66374842
>>66374783
they know they lost already, don't be an asshole, Gomes
>>66374879
The hidden stat dirtiness determines how prone he is to cunting someone for no reason lad
guys is there anyone here who actually wants to talk about fm 16 tactics
I want 3 players in the middle of the pitch (be it DM-CM-CM, 3xCM, CM-CM-AM), I'd like to have two wide players on each side and I'd like to have 3 CBs. this does not go together with having a striker. what do?
>>66373034
How much power do you think he lost after this tweet?
>>66375852
play one wide and one central?
>tfw drinking rum and cokes out of a glass with a moose on it
>>66375915
holy shit, yes.
I tried AMCs lots of times before, but I always tried two of them next to each other and both played unbelievably narrow.
When I play a 5-2-3 with an AMCL, AMR and ST, the AMCL plays in the half space like he is supposed to be.
thanks familia
>>66375915
W, IWB
intredasting. I'll have to try that next time, I ran a formation like that in this save (in 15, admittedly) but went for CWB/IF. as much as I despise them, a winger would probably stretch the defense better
>WLDDX
>"You've put together quite a run of form lately!"
Get out.
>>66376795
What can I say, I'm feeling patriotic tonight.
>>66375915
thanks again senpai. the asymmetrical AMC/AML idea was exactly what I needed.
Finally I pulled off Tuchel's BVB side. one pitch of the side is swarmed with players and the opponent simply cannot contain it, there's another attacking wide player (WBa) on the other flank for cheeky diagonal passes to open up the defense, and the front three simply works perfectly (relative to what else you can do in FM 16). finally I have a front 3 that's neither too narrow (easily choked to death) nor too wide (easily isolated).
Also, having a guy in the middle of the pitch alleviates the struggles I had when I used two wide players - I just didn't have a strong enough midfield at times and my players could not keep hold of the ball in dangerous areas when it would've been important.
Kagawa's role is important - he needs to be a role that does not move around too much, and he has to have his mentality just right to connect defense and offense. attacking mentality on CM works well from my 3 tests, and I literally watched big portions of the full games for an hour now.
Gündogan is supposed to be a regista, by the way. fucked that up in the screenshot.
the player on the wing should really be a winger, it really fucks up the opponents defence the best. for the AMC, both AMa and SS work. it helps a lot to have "moves into channels" on your AMC.
IWBs are still shit by the way, and Wa + WBa on one side works perfectly well in FM 16.
this shit is solid as fuck too in defence because its essentially a 5 atb when defending.
I wish I could've been this autistic for sp.
I tried sleeping on a storefront just now, some chick "saved" me amd followed me home and gave me her phone number, how to preceed marq.
>>66376992
Show her your regens
>>66376992
>>66376992
Should have invited her up.
>>66377027
Had to puke before i got off the storefront, somehow i thought that wasnt the best lubricant,
>>66377042
Puking shows vulnerability. Chicks love vulnerable men. Especially when they're foreign.
>>66377042
>>66377072
Fuck, im a fulll blooded native.
I should try out black face.
>>66377086
What does that have to do with anything?
>>66377095
I dnno desu senpai
>>66377086
>Norweigan is full-fledged native of GB
Nah. If your ancesters weren't sitting in KIng Arthur's court, you're a johnny foreigner.
>>66377110
Im in norway atm bro, dnno why my ip is british.
guys, one of the few things that I cannot wrap my head around is fluidity.
what do you prefer fluidity wise, and why?
more rigid/structured football makes you think of 4-4-2 bongland hoofball, and more fluid makes you think of progressive, modern attacking football that you'd see from the likes of barca. but is that actually true in FM? most of barca's strength comes from neat and tidy positioning and keeping up a great, well thought out structure on the pitch at all times, so I'm thinking that more rigid is actually better if you have a formation that puts your players in the right areas and allows you to pass the ball well.
>>66377120
how shitfaced are you right now mate
>>66377108
>>66377120
but it isn't...
>>66377176
Im fucking blasted mate, this one nightclub had germand prizes for shots and beers, it was all a mistake but we did it anyway.
>>66377176
rigid always
>>66377120
All I know is you dropped the ball. Scandinavian women >
>>66377191
What? How? You're the only one who saw him with Norwegian flag.
>>66377176
Rigid for defensive, fluid for offensive tactics.
>>66377203
shit, she was foreign as well, but still talked norwegian fluently, a right piece of ass, but i was so concious of my pukebreat i let her go with only giving me her phone number and a hug.
>>66377232
You're starting to seriously disappoint me.
>>66377214
>Spend 5 seconds in paint to try and confuse a very drunk guy on the internet for lulz
>Only succeed in confusing the only person in /trb/ who never drinks
>>66377284
the more i think about it the more i dissapoint mysel
at least she responded to my text
>>66377303
>at least she responded to my text
Invite her over.
>>66377303
Send her a pic of your best regen
>>66377418
like so?
>>66376960
I tried your tictacs with Everton and Sunderland beat me 3-1.
I hate Germany.
>>66377440
Yes. If she likes him then she is the one.
>>66377453
>>66377440
While playing this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPULh7dvgAo
RIP Norbro
>>66377741
He goes down fighting.
>the city of not Europe
are you not entertained?
>>66377897
still no era of mexican dominance
>>66377938
no era penal!
>>66377897
>Turkey
>Europe
>>66377967
>post-2015 europe
>europe
>>66377986
>post-2015
>2016
let's root for stade malherbe caen in their quest for the worst season of all time
>>66378023
I dunno, Troyes is right there too...
>>66378034
I wonder what will happen when they meet with malherbe caen
will they go in negative goals?
antimatter - antimatter reaction?
will they both lose and the universe implodes?
>>66378038
>>66378059
>antimatter - antimatter reaction
Means literally nothing. Antimatter can't interact with matter without causing catastrophic results. Like vs Like, Suomi.
>>66378075
I interacted with your mom with catastrophic results last night, canada
>>66378118
Is that code for attempting suicide?
>>66378142
I play him strictly as WINGER
>>66374931
PORTUGAL
PORTUGAL
PORTUGAL
>>66377418
What would a girl think if she actually received a text with an image like that attached? I mean, imagine a girl texts you a picture of a thing girls like (nail polishers or something), how the fuck do you even respond to that? I mean, a guy would just say "cool nails bruh" or something, but how the hell would a girl reply to a regen?
Is such a thing even possible?
>messi
>dybala
That's how my Olympic campaign came to an end.
>>66378426
This is how I lost the title. An abhorrent season all together. I doubt Maribor can lose against Krka.
>1 shot on target
The sad part is I had 3 clear cut chances and 0 long shots. Maribor scored from one of those bullshit crosses from deep on their only noteworthy chance.
Still can't complain, time to spend money.
>>66379641
>>66378426
Didn't mean to quote you there buddy.
>>66379641
Shamefur dispray m8. For reel, you need more fluid tactics to unlock those defence and don't overload the box, it doesn't work. And actually good defenders that will stop counters. Basically, rape them out of their best players.
>>66379649
Realization is killing me the most, not putting chances into the goal. I mean, that Gorica game from yesterday was a perfect example, 20 shots on target, 5 clear cut chances vs 0 shots on target and a 0-0 result.
In hindsight that game lost me the title. I think part of the problem was I brought a fair amount of new players into the team, most of them young, and fucked with my cohesion.
Oh well.
>>66379695
>Not having high cohesion training after recruiting players
Hum. If it's FM16, needs more crosses. You gotta find a way to stretch their defence, just shooting and holding the ball won't work, especially if you keep getting busted by counters. 1-0 is fine too.
Say, as a Slovenian, how'd you feel if there was a big Yugoslavian league instead of all these small leagues?
>>66379713
>>Not having high cohesion training after recruiting players
I did, but then I had some panic buys in the winter and not enough time to work on it.
>Say, as a Slovenian, how'd you feel if there was a big Yugoslavian league instead of all these small leagues?
It would be pretty good for the sport, but it's complicated and almost impossible to form.
I did saw that DB for a Yugoslav league yesterday and it's shit desu. No rhyme or reason to it.
>>66379756
>I did saw that DB for a Yugoslav league yesterday and it's shit desu. No rhyme or reason to it.
What do you mean?
Well I was simulating two of them. Both crashed at some point. But then I also had a Czechoslovakia and USSR db running at the same time so who knows what made both crash.
>>66379768
>What do you mean?
Club selection. I didn't see any logic to it.
>>66379798
>Club selection. I didn't see any logic to it.
Reputation based, as well as results. Like when those clubs from inactive leagues get promoted into playable leagues: it's basically reputation based. Which is also why loading the most leagues possible is a good thing to avoid funky results in some leagues, at least in view-only.
>>66379805
>Reputation based
It's not though. Unless you mean reputation based but a limitation on number of clubs from a specific country that is arbitrary set by the creator.
They should just copy clubs from 91' season if anything.
>>66379825
>Unless you mean reputation based but a limitation on number of clubs from a specific country that is arbitrary set by the creator.
I'm not sure what you mean. You just put the best clubs in the top league, so on so forth. Yeah the creator has to take some kind of decision in the process but so what? It's necessary to take a cut somewhere. Copying the clubs from the '91 season would be even worse because it wouldn't reflect the quality of the squads, the wealth of each club and their overall strength.
Finally.
Scout report says that he is Extremely interested, how do I force Inter to sell him?
>>66379850
Keep talking to the press that you want to sign him and he might want to force a transfer.
>>66379865
He already requested to leave, they still won't accept any bids. Don't really want to throw ridiculous money around.
>>66379865
forcing a transfer will just fail unless his contract is running out
>>66379872
You can try to wait until his contract runs out and then sign him for free, though he might change his mind and sign a new contract or get bought out by some other club.
>>66379887
Thanks Pekka, I'll wait 3 years :^)
>>66379840
>Yeah the creator has to take some kind of decision in the process but so what? It's necessary to take a cut somewhere.
The cuts make no sense. That's what I'm telling you.
>You just put the best clubs in the top league, so on so forth
Which the creator didn't do.
It's not reputation based and it's not based on the squad strength. I'm salty because it doesn't include Olimpija from Slovenia despite having a stronger squad than any Bosnian club and Stronger than, for example, Vojvodina that is also featured.
In fact it includes 3 Bosnian clubs from a league that's worse rated than all other ex-yu leagues excluding Montenegro and Macedonia...
Post the pic of the DB again.
>>66379901
>it doesn't include Olimpija
What are you on about? They're in the top division. There are no Yugo clubs omitted, they're all in the db. In what league is the question, but they're all in there.
>>66379917
Obviously I'm talking about the top Yugoslav flight. It's what I was asking you to post a picture of.
>>66379924
Well they're in there as you can see on the screenshot. Again, there are no Yugo teams missing. If you're just buttblasted because team X is in division Y instead of being in division Z, you can edit it in the db. Olimpija isn't that strong compared to other Yugo teams, and in-game they have lower rep and money than Vojvodina. Wouldn't be surprised they'd be in D2.
>>66379960
>Well they're in there as you can see on the screenshot. Again, there are no Yugo teams missing
I never claimed they're not in the game. I was obviously talking about the top flight, since that's what I saw in the screenshot posted yesterday.
> If you're just buttblasted because team X is in division Y instead of being in division Z, you can edit it in the db.
I don't see your problem right now. I just told you the DB is shit-because it's shit. You're free to play it anyway, I don't really care.
>Olimpija isn't that strong compared to other Yugo teams,
Are you really going to force me to start a new game and compare them? Granted I'm in FM16.
>and in-game they have lower rep and money than Vojvodina
Does that equal squad strength? If so, how do you explain D1 including clubs like Zrinjski , Vardar an that Montenegrin club, whtout even bringing other Bosnian clubs to the table?
Whoever was compiling D1 didn't use any of the above mentioned values, instead he pre-determined how many clubs each republic gets in the top flight and only then maybe allotted the slots based on any metrics.
Get it? That's why it's shit. And if he had done that, it would have made more sense to just copy the 91' league, he would have ended up with an almost identical league anyway.
>>66379960
>>66380033
Just to outline what I mean. Iirc (post the picture please) this club is in D1, the only club from Macedonia
It wasn't included based on reputation, value or squad strenght. It was included because the creator of D1 wanted at least 1 Macedonian club in the top flight.
Do you understand what I mean now?
>>66380033
> I was obviously talking about the top flight, since that's what I saw in the screenshot posted yesterday.
Well they're top flight, so we're not talking about the same db.
As well as squad strength... what, you mean some teams over/under perform?
>>66380082
And I don't see the issue. Of course, if you strictly want the team with the most "potential" you'll be annoyed, but if you want a league that represents somewhat all the countries in it, it's fair. Regardless of that, when you merge several leagues, you have to simulate those leagues for a year or two so they balance each other out. Even if you pretend to put strictly the strongest teams in the top flight there will be surprises left and right.
>>66380117
>As well as squad strength... what, you mean some teams over/under perform?
No, I mean just the raw stats and player values of each team.
>And I don't see the issue. Of course, if you strictly want the team with the most "potential" you'll be annoyed, but if you want a league that represents somewhat all the countries in it, it's fair.
And that's why I'm saying it's shit.
The Yugoslav leagues ratings are
1.Croatia (17th)
2.Serbia(27th)
3.Slovenia(30th
4.Bosnia(37th)
5.Macedonia(40th)
6.Montenegro(44th)
Yet Slovenia gets the same number of representatives as Macedonia and Montenegro. Does that make sense to you then? It's why I'm saying it's shit.
The creator decided before even looking at things like team reputation, squad strength, etc how many Country X clubs will he put in D1. So you have 3 bosnian teams all of them weaker and from a weaker league playing in D1 than Olimpija that plays in D2(I assume) despite playing in a stronger league and being the 2nd best team in the country and having the same or more reputation and a stronger squad than those teams.
>>And I don't see the issue.
I do though, that's why I said it's shit. Yes, I am slightly salty about it but I don't care as much it appears, just trying to clear this up for you to understand why it's shit.
>>66380208
>Yet Slovenia gets the same number of representatives as Macedonia and Montenegro.
Until the 23rd or so rank in Euro reputations, there is no difference in the amount of clubs in European competitions unless you're Gibraltar or Lichtenstein. None. UEFA/SI said so. Pic related in the "real" save. It makes no difference unless it's Bayern Maribor. I've yet to see any Slovenian team (and I mean, "any") get out of the quali rounds of EL in my save. Well, outside of Maribor that choked in the knockout stages. Reputation is nearly the same, money also is, remains supposed squad strength. Well, if they're so good, simulate for a year two or three times over and see if they get promoted.
>Olimpija that plays in D2(I assume)
So we're not talking about the same db since I told you Olimpija isn't in D2.
>>66380274
>Until the 23rd or so rank in Euro reputations, there is no difference in the amount of clubs in European competitions un
That doesn't matter, for fucks sake, we're not talking about the number of QL spots, we're talking about the strength of the league. Bosnia obviously has a weaker league than Slovenia.
>I've yet to see any Slovenian team (and I mean, "any") get out of the quali rounds of EL in my save.
Again, why does this matter at all?
> Reputation is nearly the same, money also is, remains supposed squad strength
Except it's not, neither is money, holy fuck, just because they have equal amounts in the bank doesn't mean that they have equal money, Olimpija has a squad that's worth twice as much. Ever heard of assets?
>So we're not talking about the same db since I told you Olimpija isn't in D2.
Is it in D1 then? I already asked you 3 times to post a pic of D1. Yesterday I saw the pic and it did not include Olimpija.
>>66380302
>Again, why does this matter at all?
Squad strength you said. It's not much better in Slovenia than in Bosnia, no kidding. Except Bosnia doesn't have a Bayern-like team in their league. Same for France and Portugal: bet my ass the Portuguese league isn't better than Ligue 1 but their clubs perform.
>Except it's not
Pic related in the real DB. Olimpija has 400 more rep than Vadar and that's it. You can even see Vadar has more wage budget.
>I already asked you 3 times to post a pic of D1.
I did but you didn't look at it. >>66379917
hmmmm
>>66380353
shit/10
>>66380353
Shit aswell
>>66380361
He has the stats where he needs them to be besides teamwork, work on his crossing and tutor him.
>>66380342
>It's not much better in Slovenia than in Bosnia, no kidding.
So it's better but "not much" according to you? So you are actually confirming what I said? For fucks sake.
>Olimpija has 400 more rep than Vadar and that's it. You can even see Vadar has more wage budget.
So, it does have more rep, doesn't it? Now compare how much the squad is actually worth. And no, I can't see, I don't speak french lmao.
>I did but you didn't look at it. >>66379917
I assumed that wasn't D1. If that IS actually D1 It's even shittier than I first believed, lmao. Seriously. Yesterday I saw a pic of a much better D1 even when it only included Maribor from Slovenia. Holy fuck it actually includes Zavrc. Just trash it already m9
Just to be clear, by D1 we mean the TOP FLIGHT, correct? Not the 2nd tier?
>>66380418
>So it's better but "not much" according to you? So you are actually confirming what I said? For fucks sake.
And it's literally nothing unless you're willing to be literal every time. 400 rep is near nothing.
> Now compare how much the squad is actually worth. And no, I can't see, I don't speak french lmao.
First row is money in the bank, second row is transfer budget. It's not gonna work in Slovenia's favour because squad worth is based on contract length and salary.
But if you insist, the 11 best Vadar players have a CA between 94 and 138. The 11 best Olimpija players have a CA between 105 and 115. Much difference yeah.
>>66380418
>>66380482
It's very simple: the reputation and ranking of the Slovenian league is inflated by Maribor. The rest of the teams are complete shit, including the supposed second best Olimpija. The only way they had in my save to be competitive is because Maribor has fixture congestion due to CL football and no actual rescheduling. The second I put matchdays on Wednesdays and Saturdays they became fodder. Yes, if the teams were properly scouted and Maribor not as dominating it shouldn't have happened. But then, the AI is crap at squad making so whatever.
Blame SI, blame the Maribor fanboy scouts, blame everyone, but there's very little difference between the two leagues as far as the game goes. IRL it indeed may be different and you'd have a good reason to be (very, very sligthly) salty about it.
If you take the average reputation of the clubs in the leagues, Slovenia's D1 has an average rep of 4825, and 4694 without Bayern Maribor. Bosnia? 4290. And they have 16 teams in their top league, not 10.
>>66380418
>>66380482
>>66380556
But if you insist, I've found the db you're complaining about and I have it on a season long simulation right now. I'll tell you what happens later on (got Uni today) if it doesn't crash on me due to >user db.
>squad worth is based on contract length and salary
Well there's also an element of performances, especially for attacking players who can have their value inflate very quickly.
>>66380482
>And it's literally nothing unless you're willing to be literal every time. 400 rep is near nothing.
Except when you say Vojvodina has a higher rep, right? Then it matter. Granted I don't have the editor so I can't actually check it in depth. But the difference between Vojvodina and Olimpija is about the same as between Vardar and Olimpija.
>It's not gonna work in Slovenia's favour because squad worth is based on contract length and salary.
But that's wrong.
>But if you insist, the 11 best Vadar players have a CA between 94 and 138. The 11 best Olimpija players have a CA between 105 and 115. Much difference yeah
Check PA as well, not just CA friend. It makes a huge difference. Also, if you want to throw numbers like that around you have to put out averages, not "in between" that tell nothing.
You're just being stubborn at this point. If this >>66379917 is actually the Yugoslav Top Flight in 2016 it's shit, and the only way you can contradict that is if you're French and know literally nothing about football in ex-yu. If any DB that puts a Zavrc in the top flight you should trash it right away.
Also, I found the pic >>66365771
This is what I was talking about the entire time. It's why I was complaining. It _SHOULD_ Include Olimpija by any objective metric in that D1
>>66380599
>Well there's also an element of performances, especially for attacking players who can have their value inflate very quickly.
Just check the squad worth m9. It's also dependent on PA and age of the players.
>Well there's also an element of performances, especially for attacking players who can have their value inflate very quickly.
Having a ST CA 100 at 21 is worth a lot more than a ST CA 100 at 34.
That being said I'm operating with FM16 here, not FM15 and don't know what changes were made between them.
>>66380599
>>66380630
Just to add
THIS >>66365771 DB is far better than this >>66379917 DB by a huge margin.
>>66380630
> Vojvodina
In terms of rep? Yeah. In terms of money? Not even close, but then the whole Serbian league gives better money than Slovenia.
>But that's wrong.
Sell Kuhar to Real Mad or similar and see what his value becomes when they give him a new contract. Of course actual performances, PA, CA do matter. But sign them a new contract and look at their value.
>You're just being stubborn at this point. If this >>66379917 (You) is actually the Yugoslav Top Flight in 2016 it's shit, and the only way you can contradict that is if you're French and know literally nothing about football in ex-yu. If any DB that puts a Zavrc in the top flight you should trash it right away.
I perfectly acknowledge that isn't not only the best teams in the D1. I've already said that furthermore, I'm perfectly fine with the teams in the db being sorted on other criteras than what the scouts told SI about reputation or Marcos Tavares (because they also put some serious bullshit in the db). But the difference between all these teams, bar the really strong ones like Hajduk, Maribor and the like is very little. You can look at the db. Yes it would be different in real life, but as far as the game goes it isn't.
>>66380715
>Vojvodina
>In terms of rep?
I mean the difference between Olimpija, Vojvodina and Vadar. Around 400 rep points.
>>66380715
And I'm saying that despite not including Olimpija.
But, in the second DB, when Maribor has the second highest reputation in Yugoslavia there's something wrong with the DB. I mean Crvena Zvezda won the damn CL 20ish years ago and I don't see it listed there. It's also retarded to see Olimpija have 100rep more than Zavrc, a literal meme village club that was in the 2nd division 2 years ago...
>>66380715
>Yeah. In terms of money?
In FM16 Vojvodina has a squad worth less than Olimpija. You're getting hung up on the bank balance instead of the actual club assets and players.
>But sign them a new contract and look at their value.
Then check it already. Tell me who has a squad worth more...
I'm sorry but the contract size is the LEAST important factor in a player's worth. In fact in FM2016 I NEVER notice the player's value skyrocket when they sign a new contract.
>But the difference between all these teams, bar the really strong ones like Hajduk, Maribor and the like is very little. You can look at the db. Yes it would be different in real life, but as far as the game goes it isn't.
That's why it's a shit DB lad. It's not even close to real life, that's the problem. So what do you call a simulation of real life that's really bad at simulating real life? SHIT.
What have I said in my first post? That the DB is shit man. I said it because it's shit. I mean you can enjoy it and play it anyway, who cares at the end of the day, but it's not a good recreation of a yugo league.
>>66380818
>You're getting hung up on the bank balance instead of the actual club assets and players.
After sayingt that Serbia gives better money to mitigate that? Not really no.
Also, you'd be vary not to shit talk Zavrc. Their best 11 players have their CA between 96 and 112 (vs 105 to 115 for Olimpija), they have 100 less rep points than Olimpija and very similar transfer budget as well as money in the bank. Blame the MADibor fanbois, but it's really not so different in game. However Olimpija has better infrastructures and regens usually by a fairly decent margin. Without calculating I think Oli has a slightly better squad tho'. I told you, there's no fucking way a D2 side can cruise in a D1 league like that but in FM it's possible.
>What have I said in my first post? That the DB is shit man.
And it's not the db's fault holy shit, that's what I'm saying. The original SI db is like that. Get it? Those teams aren't that different IN GAME.
Anyway, this is what it's looking like in the "Serbian" db (with Oli in D2) in January.
>>66380864
>Maribor
I suspect there's a transfer embargo for the first season, I'll have to simulate another year.
>>66380864
>this autism ITT
Just make out already
>>66380910
>Discussing a spreadsheet simulator
>>66380904
>moving every slav to the league
>>66380864
>After sayingt that Serbia gives better money to mitigate that? Not really no.
I just loaded a new game man. Olimpija has a squad worth more than Vojvodina. I don't know, maybe it's different in FM15. I don't own FM15.
>Also, you'd be vary not to shit talk Zavrc. Their best 11 players have their CA between 96 and 112 (vs 105 to 115 for Olimpija
I already told you, CA is only half the story. PA and the player's age's plays an equally important part.
I assumed the DB was tampered with when creating the new yugo league though. Fair enough. It is what it is in the game.
> they have 100 less rep points than Olimpija and very similar transfer budget
Yet their squad is worth half as much (at least in FM16). Players in game are like assets. Transfer budget doesn't mean much when you can sell one or two players and have a transfer budget 10 times the size and they wouldn't be able to match it even if they sold half their squad.
Perhaps it really is much different in FM16. I don't have the editor though so I can't check in depth. Either way, it really is Autism at this point. Pic related was the actual league in the last Yugoslav season though.
>>66380904
It's weird that Maribor has such a high rep ingame. It's common knowledge that the most reputable clubs in ex-yu are Partizan, Crvena Zvezda, Dinamo and Hajduk. Those were the "big 4". Olimpija was a fringe club, I don't have trouble admitting that. So it's not like I think they should be the best of the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT8BQxC8_ok
>>66381000
>I just loaded a new game man. Olimpija has a squad worth more than Vojvodina. I don't know, maybe it's different in FM15. I don't own FM15.
I didn't take the risk to load a transfer update (Sortitoutsi) with a Yugo db, felt it would go haywire. I mean I could try, but if I get a BSOD I'm taking the plane to Marseille and then to your house. If you're not finding all those AK-47 hidden in the Balkans, it's because they're in Marseille currently.
Well fuck it, let's load the transfer update and see what happens. I'll still blame you. FWIW, this is the league table before I restart. I had FM16 on my PC at some point, I got mad with the match engine and went back to FM15 so I'm not too fancy about re-DLing it to check the db and I believe you if you say the squad is better.
The immediate issue with a transfer update is that the player ratings/potential aren't adjusted. So Barca becomes irrelevant in terms of aiming for the title for example.
>Either way, it really is Autism at this point.
You mean you don't enjoy it? I certainly do.
>my absolute GOAT gift of god regen does not want to extend his contract because the club is too shit
KILL ME PLEASE
PLEASE DONT LEAVE CSABA
>>66381173
Talk to him, praise him, tell him that the bigger clubs wouldn't make him play as much. Generally they'll accept to negotiate but they'll put some shitty clauses in the contracts. Maybe you won't even have enough money to keep them anyway.
>>66381059
Good luck m8
Also, the AK's aren't ours, we shipped our yugo gear to...Afghanistan. No idea why, but hey, some goat fuckers are having fun with them I guess.
>>66381228
>trying to draw this guy's attention
RIP Norbro
>>66381059
>If you're not finding all those AK-47 hidden in the Balkans, it's because they're in Marseille currently
NATO had Croatia and Slovenia (I'd assume) give up their old AKs for training (whatever that means) and destroy the rest. The ones you've got in France are probably from Bosnia and Serbia - those 2 countries are full of illegal guns that find their way to the West
Sucks to be you, I guess
>>66381277
Funny, we're also full of Serbs who fled from the Balkans in the late 80's/early 90's. Well, we're also full of sandniggongs too and I hate them much more than your average nigger. Especially in NT.
>>66381238
>balts in charge of defending
>>66381277
Ours were sent to the Afghan army officially, along with some other yugo gear and ammunition. I wouldn't be surprised if someone is ethnically cleansing some village with them right about now considering the state of the Afghan army and the fact they literally sell their shit to the Taliban or whoever pays them for it.
>>66381331
>implying I give a shit about latveria
should I worry
>>66381360
about Fiorentina not paying their power bill? nah
>tfw your affiliated club is congesting your schedual and you can't cancel it
>>66381342
Rude
>>66381291
>we're also full
Nice, reaping the fruits of immigration
>>66381331
>Ours were sent to the Afghan army officially
Same, for "training". Now imagine what the Western countries did there
>517 posts, no new thread in sight
(assertively) concentrate
I just ripped of Osijek and got this black gentleman for 250k.
goooooooooood afternoon /trb/
how goes save???
>>66381485
Disappointingly, failed to win the league and this guy want's to leave me after only a year.
>>66381485
>how goes save???
Couldn't get back into it. Dropped
>>66381474
Oh, it's one of those Abuja rejects the Italians have been flooding Reka with
>>66381485
managed to win the league AGAIN with a midtable club, but we had a disappointing collapse in the second half of the season, drawing and losing most games, and going out of the cup.
>>66381496
that's a sad story indeed
better hope regen day brings someone sicknasty to replace the cunt
>>66381506
>Couldn't get back into it
iktf man i can never stick to a save for more than like 10 minutes
>>66381509
unlucky man but at least you won the season eh
which club were you playing? any star players?
>>66381506
He's going to make a fine backup. Also poached this guy the previous year from Siroki Brijeg. The funny thing about his is that he can speak Croatian (Fluent) Bosnian (Fluent) Slovenian (Fluent) but only Serbian(Good) lel
let's join in the intense competition between malherbe caen and troyes on who will have the worse season
>>66381542
a club in Sopron, Hungary.
Yeah, two great regens, one brazilian GOAT striker (for this league) and a great great playmaker that was already at the club when I came. I'm currently trying to cash in on the striker though as my regen will replace him soon
>>66381634
post GOAT
boys is there a huge amount of difference between the way fullbacks play and the way wingbacks play? not seeing much change between the two roles desu
(Assertive) Don't get complacent, thing can turn around very quickly in football. Stay focused.
>it's an 11-0
tfw u win ur first game and manage to score all the goals too
>>66381659
I hope you're not disappointed, but this guy would be a solid Bundesliga player.
Also: Yes, there is a huge difference, but you'll only notice it in your game when you tell your team to look for overlapping players and if you don't hoof the ball up the pitch too fast, because then your wing backs will simply be ignored.
To see the difference you'll have to turn on 2D view for a while. Attacking wing backs play somewhat like timid wingers, they slowly push higher and higher until they're as high up the pitch as your strikers, offering great width and allowing your other players to play narrower, in more dangerous areas.
Fullbacks are pretty much pointless if you don't want them for their defensive """ability""" - they'll literally never prevent crosses from happening anyway, but at least they'll stop your opponent from countering down the flanks. But attacking fullbacks are fucking garbage, they push up just enough to leave your wings without immediate cover but not enough to really be useful except for some rare occasions.
Aha! Telling them they're not leaving anywhere is paying off.
wtf is going on
>>66381749
been watching in 2d for ages anyway, makes the game more enjoyable to me for some reason
is having wingers on support combined with wingbacks on attack a solid plan then? or perhaps should I be playing with inside forwards so they'll cut inside while the wingbacks stay wide and ping balls into the box?
>>66381811
>>66381778
The data update didn't crash my save. Anyway...
>Olimpija
HAPPENING
Still kinda disappointed there are only 12 teams in the top league. Would've preferred 18 teams or something. This would be a nightmare to change so I'm not touching this.
>>66381855
>>66381778
RIP Triglav.
>>66381749
the former is not a good idea.
the role of the winger is not important, both Wa and IF can work. the important part is the mentality - attacking wingbacks behave a bit like supporting wingers would behave. I currently have wingers on attack duty. they automatically play narrower than the wing backs, the wing backs kind of push them inside when they run up.
what I'm trying to say is: use both on attack. if that is too attacking for you, use the wing backs on support, not the other way round.
IF can work too, on any duty really. that's really down to preference, I've always hated how IF play in FM and how they never fulfill their role and just fuck around imo. wingers are just too OP this game, anything that likes to cross it in (or occupy the box when the ball is on the other flank, which wingers also do) is too good not to use imo
>>66381878
hmmm alright then
i'mm try wingers on attack as well as wingbacks on attack and see how things go
currently up 3-1 so this seems to be working quite nicely but then again it could just be because i'm up against shitters
>>66381778
>>66381855
>>66381857
>Hajduk getting relegated
I hadn't activated the options to add new staff and players, but that's unexpected. Oli wins the D2 by 2 points BTW.
Gonna let this run for a few years. The issue with that kind of db is that you can't add or remove countries (thanks Miles). As a result, "Yugoslavia" is nothing more than a modified Serbia. Slovenia, Macedonia and the likes are still in the db; they just have no clubs and no players (unless the game decides to generate some at some point, which is going to be a massive clusterfuck). And they still have a higher UEFA coeff than Yugoslavia. Yugo is ranked 50th, which is going to murder the clubs in there desu. That kind of db really needs to be simulated for a long time to "even out" regarding clubs, squads and reputation.
>that feel when you're desperately looking for another left winger who is good enough for the first team and can't find anyone
>that feel when you finally find someone and he's cheap and you sign him up
>tfw you find out that your new ML has a right only foot
I want to be killed
>>66381987
>Not using Inside forwards
Did you know that in FM15, Robben is "Left Foot only" (6 out of 20 for his right foot)? Just let them cut inside m8.
>>66381996
>letting them cut inside
>in a game where players dont know how to cut inside, not even players like Robben
>in an iteration of the game that is literally called "FM 16 - cross it in edition"
please familia
>>66381987
but IFs are GOAT
I always retrain wingers to play on the other side of the pitch
>>66382002
>>66381996
I'm not using AMR/AML currently, I'm playing ML/MR.
>>66382010
Wide Playmaker(A) cuts inside and you can instruct WM to cut inside too.
>>66381996
In my experience defenders can't mark wingers either, so it evens out. But yeah, by all means, cross.
>>66381878
I'm not a big fan of Wingers on attack duty, I hate it when they don't track back and don't attack the opp. FB.
>>66382036
"Mark specific player"
>>66382036
>needing players to track back
>not having 75% possession
>>66381977
Fucking weird desu. Rijeka winning, Vardar runner up and Hajduk flopping this badly.
>>66382036
ML/MR on attack duty track back and defend. Again, just check out the game in 2D to see that this is true. They'll stay up higher for the first few moments of the opponents attack, and that's just how I want it because I want to be able to hit the opponent on the break. If the opponent manages to bring the ball into my half of the pitch, Wa will track back and defend just like a Ws would.
>>66382059
And they're flopping even harder by the minute.
Happens when you don't generate players and staff to fill the squads and when it's the only playable league (I've put the neighbour countries on view only but still). That said, since the data update already has (supposedly) accurate transfer budgets I hadn't locked the first window budget. Curious they didn't recruit players if they were missing so many of them. But then...
>AI squad building
>Non updated player rankings
Needs a few years if not a decade to even out completely.
>>66382121
This is an interesting experiment though. The 1st league should have 16 team too though. Would be better I think. 12 is a bit low for a Yugoslav league.
Show the first league every now and then, if you can. Still, Hajduk flopping that badly is rally unrealistic, lel, even Split is above them.
>>66382061
I'm talking about AMR/AML though
>>66382048
>What's with other 20%
>>66382041
But I don't want him to mark a specific player, I want him to not destroy our defensiv shape.
>>66382203
Yeah, that's true.
But if you are using AMR/AML and want them to track back then you're really, really doing it wrong. AML/AMR are supposed to be more like strikers
what pitch dimensions should i be using in a 4-1-2-3?
>that one guy that backs everyones loan deal
Wew, I thought I was going into a much harder game, apparently not. Shame about all the missed chances.
That free guy from Andorra really developed nicely.
>>66382242
narrow and short i would imagine.
What the fuck kind of formation is this
>>66382515
is their manager brazilian?
>>66382515
The classic br
>>66382242
depends on your tictacs
biggest possible if you tikitaka
long and narrow if you hoof it
short and wide if you cross it
small if you press and murderball
>>66382557
>small if you press and murderball
and why would you want to play any other way, really
>>66382533
>>66382541
No one shows up under staff weirdly enough. Maybe cause I have them on view only? Either way they didn't do well.
Talk about shit luck. Then again maybe it's better to get knocked out.
Hello /trb/. I can't believe it's not Butters! here if someone remembers. New PC and got pretty sick these last days. This new one can run FM 16 so I downloaded the demo but I'm lost with some of the changes (training, and how do I spend my manager points?) I was considering buying the game but 50 bucks seems excessive, more so if I'm not into the flow of all those changes. Should I just go back to 12?
>here comes this retard to ask the same thing a million people have already asked
Sorry about that. ;_;
>>66382779
50 bucks is exessive.
greenmangaming with this coupon you will pay 40 US:
SPRING20
I'll sell you a fm16 steam key for 30 USD.
>>66382876
>>66382903
Thanks but I can't afford it just yet, I was asking mainly for if it's worth it when I can do it in a week, couple weeks or so.
But hey as I said thanks.
>>66383018
Id say buy it for 30 us if you can in the future, quite fun.
Also did you win CL yet ICBINB?
>tfw fullham trying to poach the only decent regen you got last year
Oh come on for fucks sake.
Also, I've never understood what eccentricity does. Hope not much cause this fucker ain't got none.
>>66383018
Cheers m8. Personally would check out 15, as the differences between it and 16 are minimal and you can find it for ~20 USD.
I'd say it's worth it as long as that money wouldn't otherwise be going towards food/gas/bills etc.
what's the point in going on holiday?
Is he worth 2 million € (1,3 upfront)?
I want him to be a Target man.
>>66383195
I sure hope he is cause I just bought the little fucker. Well more like a big fucker. He's almost 2m at fucking 17
>>66383264
Scored a header on his debut a couple of minutes after being subbed on.
>>66383057
Eccentricity is a negative stat familia.
It can be translated to "idiocy".
>>66383447
flag checks out
>>66383447
>eccentricity is a negative stat
top kek
Have you seen your nt keeper?
End of season garbage time
Sub in 18 year old Slovenian pacebabby prospect for his professional debut
He scores with his first touch after 20 seconds
Feels Nice
>>66383461
I'm of turkish descent mate.
Also, Neuer is literally the only good keeper on this planet among those that have high eccentricity, and it's not because he is eccentric, its because he's just godlike overall.
>>66383510
paki
>>66383447
A lot of keepers in the game have decent Eccentricity. The issue with this stat is that it needs to be paired with good mentals (Vision, Decision, anticipation) and decent goal kicks/throws, rushing out, etc. or else you'll concede a lot of goals.
>>66383346
>Rijeka
Well they're coached by Matjaz Kek, so there's that. Fortunately, Hajduk saved their asses in D2.
>>66383544
>>66383346
Yugo did well in the Euro, finishing first in their group. But Spain happened, and Denmark cucked everyone. AGAIN.
>Sisto
>Eriksen
>Hojberg
>Viktor Fisher
What is it with all that Dane cheese in FM15 anyway?
>>66383510
We know that. We can all see your flag.
>>66383544
>>66383611
>Rijeka just dominating
>Koper gets promoted and finishes 3rd
Lmao what the fuck is going on.
Playing as Barrow...
Moved up to League 2 in 3 seasons.
2nd place at Winter transfer window.
2nd season in a row now, results go into the shitter.
End up fighting in playoff spot.
How can I stop this??
Guys, how do you defend against free kicks?
My attacking and defending corners are pretty much spot on, my attacking free kicks are also decent but I can't defend FKs well
>>66383623
>le Germany is full of Turks maymay
fuck off with this shit
when will we finally do something against this epidemic and throw out those foreigners that don't provide anything useful to our society
Merkel is literally forcing a Turk like me vote far-right because all established parties are so incredibly leftist cucks
>>66383627
Well each time the season begins Dinamo leads or is at least very well placed, but when it ends Rijeka wins. Dinamo keeps choking leads, Strasbourg-like.
>>66383510
hi art
he's not the only one though
The thing is that high eccentricity with shit decisions makes a terrible keeper, while eccentricity is largely not required for a good keeper. It very much helps sweeper keepers when you're playing a high line though.
>>66383447
>>66383510
>>66383682
So, why are there several "big name" clubs fighting for this fucker? He doesn't even look that good, does he?
>>66383473
Regen or existing player? You sure he's not Slovakian heh?
>>66383638
Are you bringing in a lot of new players? When I was playing with Chester I always had the best results when I did minimally on the transfer market. To the point I achieved back to back promotions to the Championship with the same squad-It ended there ofc.
>>66383673
Hm, why is the league rating dropping so badly? The 1st Yugoslav league used to be among the strongest leagues in Europe, surely the Clubs aren't doing that badly in int. competitions? I tend to see Rijeka, Dinamo, etc. do decently enough.
Also, poor Koper.
>>66383673
>>66383627
Good old commie discipline I tell you.
>>66383726
>Marshall Tito cup winners
Ay
>>66383722
Jesus Christ, he is absolutely woeful.
He has 5 jumping reach. He's a manlet, he will never get above 10 at best and that is just 3+ jumping reach too short of ever being a usable keeper, even in shit leagues.
Get rid and try to grab as many shekels as you can, his high PA won't help you since his stat distribution is shit imo
unrelated:
>tfw you thought the player was trained in nation (15-21)
>he's only trained in nation (0-21) and it does not count
>have to leave out one of my first 22 players
fuark
>>66383722
>>66383749
>Hm, why is the league rating dropping so badly? The 1st Yugoslav league used to be among the strongest leagues in Europe, surely the Clubs aren't doing that badly in int. competitions? I tend to see Rijeka, Dinamo, etc. do decently enough.
Because of their qualification places. They were 50th. Actually when I loaded the save they were 7th in reputation but 50th in rankings, but it keeps dropping because since they don't have nearly as many clubs in Euro competitions, they don't perform much. Also, when your league's rating is shit, your players want to leave because "team X plays in a better league". Also, it means that the teams aren't seeded as highly anymore. Like pic related: since they have to go through 8 matches to get in EL, Dinamo got cucked by being drawn against Newcastle. Fortunately the league's rating is getting higher (they're 33rd now), but it doesn't change much in terms of access to European spots. Which is why i said it needs to run for a while to get their league rating back up.
>>66383722
he's not totally awful, but yeah, it's pretty weird that any foreign club would be chasing him
I don't know about fm16, but in 15 and previous versions you'll often see a "Wnt" from a club who will never actually put a bid in even if you offer the player for sale
>>66383847
That just means that they've scouted him personally or have declared interest to the media.
>>66383872
Makes sense in a way. I still think it's weird when a club that's done that won't even make a speculative offer when you tell them he's available for below his estimated value
>>66383921
Don't take "estimated value" so literally, it isn't really indicative of transfer values.
>>66383941
Fair enough, but that's really neither here nor there
I'm just saying it's strange that FM visually reports "interest" when a club has absolutely no interest
We did it lads, we actually got an away goal and managed to hold on to it.
>>66383803
That explains it then. You planning to play with anyone later on?
>>66383847
>>66383872
>>66383921
I got bids from him already, nothing special really, a few tens of thousands.
>>66384017
>That explains it then. You planning to play with anyone later on?
I'm trying to check if I can put their ranking at 10 or something and see what happens. I'll also need to put reserves team in it to avoid players simply rotting on the bench too. Doubt I'll play with it, it's a fine experiment but I expected more clubs in the top division. I'm just worried that considerign the clubs in there they happen to get in the top 10 of rankings that nearly half the D1 gets in Euro competitions; seems a bit broken. Well it would be the case if you do it with Slovenia, and at least the clubs are actually better. Seems like a fun db, so I'm pondering, I don't really wanna drop my regular Triglav save. I'll simulate some more and keep you updated.
so guys how about somebody makes a new thread?
>>66384102
only former Dutch colonies are allowed to do so
>>66384102
we're waiting for hc. im staying in this one until she makes one.
>>66384102
nah
let's just keep this one forever
>>66384102
we're all waiting, because we know the second we make one will be the same second that half a dozen other people also decide to make one
>>66384134
>she
>>66384134
>she
>>66384118
dont have any trb images
You didn't know hc was a girl?
new thread:
>>66384234
NEW THREAD
>>66384233
>>66384233
>>66384233
good job cunts
>>66384238
fugggg offf
>>66384237
>>66384238
morz wins by 14 seconds
>>66384255
>>66384260
nah, the brazzo vote goes to Suribro
besides, >>66384118
>>66384260
;-; but i posted earlier itt
also
>huehue coming in at 1st post
>player has just received a 2 match ban for picking up 10 yellow cards in 11 fucking appearances
>"WHY AREN'T YOU GIVING ME MORE PLAYING TIME!"
I guess I care about the legs of my opponents more than your negligible skill level, prick.
