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>Poop edition
>GOATnaldo subedition
what's his problem
don't know but this idiot needs to leave
Man, he really is a cunt.
>>65981593
i have so much respect for pep after seeing this webm
would love to have a coach like him in sw6
>>65981593
embarassing
>>65981851
meant to >>65981653
>>65981851
Tbh, he's been absolutely outstanding as a striker despite being 3 years into his decline (starting around the 2013 season to world cup).
/sp/ wants to meme about him being shit but you can tell that Zidane has pushed him into working harder
>>65981694
Give over. Bloke is a legend.
>>65981653
BM will go into decline when he goes.
>>65981653
favre when?
>>65981593
he's the dad that cares too much
he knows babby kimmich can become the goat
>>65981653
>420blazeit.webm
>>65982176
they better before him
>>65981694
His job is to be their coach, not their friend. Ferguson was the biggest cunt of them all but guess what? it works and players can greatly improve under a coach that's tough on them
>>65981851
>Lel liga defending
>>65981851
hey ronaldos got the ball in the middle of the third LETS BACK AWAY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
>>65981593
why did kimmich get [x] butttold so hard?
>>65981851
I always love how players think they proved all the critics wrong when they score in some irrelevant game after blowing 5 important ones
>>65982223
sorry but he is going to leverkusen
>>65982304
>they better before him
For a single season. BM had gone nearly three season without a pot. He's settled the team and dominated domestically. Ancellotti will screw up.
Kinda bush league to do that in the middle of the field after the match for everyone to see like that. Seems like a chat for the locker room. What happened?
>>65981593
He's actually trying to cheer him up
>>65982432
This. I'm literally going to put money on Dortmund winning the league next season if they manage to keep Obama, Weigl, Hummels, Mkhitaryan etc.
That team is seriously impressive and Ancelotti is a designated title race choker
>>65982432
CL wins is all BM cares about these days, m8
Heynckes delivered
>>65982582
Yeah, of course they do. You'd be hating on Pep even more if he'd failed to win the Bundesliga, but because he's managed to win two (probably three) league titles, you'll bitch about him on his failure to win the CL instead, but ignore that he's reached the semis twice and was beaten by the eventual champions.
>>65982582
>club has won 5 CLs in 50 years of the competition's existence
>hurr durr you're a failure if you don't win one
>>65982450
Pep wants to be in the limelight
>>65982802
It's generally what good managers do to take the attention and focus off their players. Fergie was a master at this. He'd start bitching about the refs when Man Utd lost, take the fine and all the press attention was on him and not how shit his team performed.
>>65982717
>>65982798
Bayern was in the CL final in 2010,2012 and 2013
>>65982906
So where do you draw the success line? Firstly, you seemed to imply that it's either win or bust, now you're making it out like losing in the final is an achievement
>>65982906
But they didn't win in '10 and '12.
You're exactly the sort of person that slams Pep for reachingtwo CL semis, but was claiming Mourinho taking RM to consecutive semis was a success.
BM have let the best manager in club football leave and replaced him with someone who walks a thin line between 'utter fluke' and 'bottle job'.
>>65983051
>BM have let the best manager in club football leave
To be fair, Bayern offered him a contract and wanted him to stay
>>65982883
>It's generally what good managers do to take the attention and focus off their players
Explain me exactly how does he take the attention off the players if he is exposing them
>>65982951
I draw the line at not being BTFO in the semies twice in a row
>>65983051
>success is bad, style is good
Arsene Wenger please leave
>>65983151
You and everyone else is talking about Pep's behaviour. That's how.
>>65983153
BTFO by Real Madrid and Barcelona, who BTFO every other team in the CL and ended up winning it.
And you're the stupid cunt that thinks runner-up is considered success, not me.
>>65983153
>I draw the line at not being BTFO in the semies twice in a row
Alright, so getting BTFO in the final and choking a final at your home stadium to a vastly inferior side is a success but getting BTFO by the eventual winner in the semis is a failure?
>>65982638
What the fuck was he thinking?
>>65982638
whoa thats some joga bonita ass shit right here
>>65983287
"Gas the Kikes!"
>>65983272
>choking a final at your home stadium to a vastly inferior side is a success
No, a lot of people were sacked for that
Robben was very close to being sold
>>65983517
But you're presenting that failure as a success.
>>65983558
All I am saying is that Pep's predecessors have done a better job
>>65983774
van Gaal
1 league title, 1 cup in 2 years
Guardiola
3 league titles, 1/2 cups in 3 years
Somehow that means van Gaal was better because he had enough luck to draw Lyon in the semis while the 2 best teams in Europe played in the other tie which allowed him to get BTFO 1 stage later.
I do not quite agree with your logic
>>65983774
The only thing Heynckes won that Pep hasn't (yet) was the CL title. You'd have to go back to Hitzfeld to find a manager who has done better.
>>65983975
Also, the only coach who won more than 3 Bundesliga titles with Bayern was Hitzfeld
Before the game
>>65984205
>>65983208
And now Kimmich will be for always remembered as le player who Guardiola shouted
>>65984450
Yes, now see>>65982906
>>65984473
Nope. It'll always be Pep who is mentioned in this incident.
>>65984450
you're not making any sense. First you say CL WINS is all that matters and then you argue van Gaal was a bigger success even though he never won one either
>>65984507
I don't. Bayern never looked like a serious CL contender under Pep.
They did before though.
>>65984450
First was meant for >>65983975
>>65984629
>losing to the eventual winner in the semi final doesn't make you a contender
you're still not making any sense. van Gaal made the final because he was lucky enough to draw Lyon in the semi final instead of Barcelona or Inter. This current team has a much better chance to win it than van Gaal's team (who got BTFO in ro16 the next year).
You're still not making any sense.
>>65984716
>chelsea were the better team in 2012
>>65984538
We literally cannot know that, but you will see, if Kimmich doesnt become top class he will be always remembered by this, I may be wrong, but I really dont think so.
>>65984886
how the fuck did you draw that implication from my post? I was talking about van Gaal's 09-11 team
>>65985185
You questioned Bayern's CL success before Pep
They did better before him
>>65985505
Heynckes was, van Gaal wasn't, Klinsmann wasn't, Magath wasn't.
What I questioned was your claims that making the final and losing is a success after claiming that only winning it matters.
>>65983975
My mom could've won the bungalowliga with Bayern. The team pep took over was stacked to the max
>>65985697
Bayern won 2 Bundesliga titles in 5 years before Pep
>>65981593
obligatory
>>65985735
Then they got their team stacked with the opposition's best players. Can't lose.
>>65985618
Not a flawless record obviously
But you can lose one game as long as you compete every year.
Pep couldn't do that.
>>65985785
>gotze
>anyone's best player
They only got Lewandowski who Dortmund replaced well anyway
>>65985816
So Pep getting to the semi and losing to the winner every year is not competing, but van Gaal getting to the final and losing in the ro16 is competing every year? (not even going to mention Klinsmann's and Magath's records)
>>65985953
The team got into the final 3 times in 4 years before he arrived.
And they didn't fuck up like against Real and Barca before
>>65986279
But you said that the only thing Bayern cares about is winning the CL. Why do you say that and they try to spin losing in the final as a success?
>>65982582
>>65986323
Not making the final with the best Bayern team ever is an even bigger failure
>>65986654
Guardiola lost to Madrid and Barcelona - CL winners who spent hundreds of millions to improve their squad. He also had no Robben, Ribery or Alaba for the Barcelona tie
van Gaal lost to Inter twice (the same Inter got BTFO by schalke in the next round).
Heynckes lost to the weakest Chelsea team at home.
Their losses came against much weaker opposition than Guardiola's
>>65986866
He should have done better
Everyone was expecting more and not unrealistically so
>>65982638
What did he mean by this?
>>65987419
winning the CL in such a short timeframe is unrealistic. No one has ever won 2 in a row, especially with Madrid and Barcelona breaking transfer records left and right while Bayern's marquee signing is Gotze
>>65985749
>>65981593
KEEP POSSESION WE CANT LOSE THIS MATCH, LETS KEEP IT A DRAW SO WE CAN BEAT UP ON FC TRAKTOR FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON
>>65981593
this is amazing
