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>this twink is literally the difference between a 70 win elite
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>this twink is literally the difference between a 70 win elite championship team and mediocre shit

where did this "sport" go so wrong?
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>>64638602

Golden State will NEVER win 70 games.
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>>64638602
it's just like the lakers when you leave Kobr without a great big man
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>>64638602
he's the MVP though

you tried

protip: do some more research
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>>64638716
yea and jordan was reigning mvp before he temporarily retired. the bulls were still decent without him. the warriors literally look like a D-League team without Curry. the only decent player is Green
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>>64638777
give them time to adjust, dipstick
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ultimate triumph of skill and natural talent triumphing over everything else, he's the best story in sports
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>>64638777
if anything that only proves how great of a player Curry is. The bulls could've gotten to the Finals without Jordan. The warriors are completely loss without Curry. Curry really is an ATG
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>>64638866
I don't know if the Bulls would have given the great teams of the time.
The difference between the Bulls and Golden State is that the Bulls had 3 HOF'ers. GSW have one.
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>>64638602
An entire healthy GSW roster minus curry is still probably a 50-win team senpai
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>>64638777
can't argue with the trips of truth
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GSW can win 60 games without Curry. They could've beat the Cavs in the finals without him too. It's so funny last years MVP race. arguments where "curry is on a stacked team" Hardin is the real MVP." Well said stacked team wins a finals without their "greatest" player not even winning finals MVP. Now everyone thinks he's the GOAT. Can 4chan be anymore fickle?
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>>64638866
Except Harrison Barnes is a crucial piece to the team as well.

It would be like the Bulls losing Michael Jordan AND Tony Kukoc.
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>>64638866
lol no they couldn't

55 wins and then 47 wins in those two seasons. Got cucked by Ewing and then Shaq/Penny. Pippen is good but too many other teams in the league were stacked with multiple superstars on one team.
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He's the best basketball player in the world, no shit his team is shit without him
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They're not winning 70
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>>64639146
Lebron James is still the best player in basketball because he proved it in last year's playoffs.
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>>64639163
yes
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>>64639163
Yes they are
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>>64638866
>Could've gotten to the finals without Jordan
>Implying they could've beaten Shaq, Hardaway, and Horace Grant.

Oh wait they didn't. And the year after when they got Jordan back they swept the Magic.
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>>64639166
>Most efficient player in the history of the game
> Greatest shooter of all-time
> League leader in points this season
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>>64639169
>>64639173
No
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>>64639166
Where he had Kobe level efficiency?

Curry is the best player now.
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>>64639191
Bulls got 02 Kings robbed in 94, they should've beat the Knicks and went to the Finals that year but the league wanted parody and at the same time protect MJs GOAT persona by not letting them reach the Finals without him
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>>64639273
>tfw we missed out on a Bulls vs Rockets finals because Jordan wanted to be dramatic
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>>64639253
>efficiency

underage bait. Doesn't matter in the playoffs. Just look at LeBron when he was on Cleveland.

Oh, and did Curry lose his second and third best players?
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>>64639362
Of course efficiency matters if your team loses. Every miss hurts the team almost as badly as a turnover.
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>>64639273
The league also robbed Pippen out of a MVP that season to protect Jordans image... People say MJ carried Scottie but Scottie was way to closer to winning a title without MJ than MJ without him...

MJ with no Scottie = 1st round exit or missed playoffs (wizard years)

Scottie with no MJ = Two of the top 10 robberies in the history of the NBA to stop him from getting a ring (94 Knicks series, 2000 Portland/Lakers series)
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>2-4 in the finals
>heat/cavs fans still trying to call him better than Jordan

pls stop
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>>64639461
>referencing the wizard years

stinky bait
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>>64639522
Jordan has played with two HOF famers and one top 25 all-time great.

LeBron has played with one HOF and no all-time greats
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>>64639539
And he's 6-0 and 6 FMVPs. Lebron is 2-4 like a giant cuck. Lebron isn't close bruh.
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>>64639461
That Pacers team in 2000 would've squashed the Blazzers in the Finals f.ä.m
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>>64639539
Look at this cuck. Their careers aren't over yet at all.

Wade/Bosh are both HOF. Ray Allen, who won a ring for Lebron, is also HOF, but let's not include him.

Kyrie can be HOF too by the end of his career.

Jordan dominated for a decade. Lebron lost 4 times in the finals.
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Lebron isn't better than Magic, Russell, Wilt, or Bird and he probably won't be by the end of his career. He's not touching Jordan.

Lebron isn't the best player anymore either and I doubt he wins any more MVPs. Curry is shitting all over him.
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>>64639630
Has Jordan every played stacked teams like The Spurs, The Warriors and Thunder in the finals?

I guess you can count the Jazz even though Thunder/Spurs/Warriors were better than that team
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>>64639684
If you want to get into the argument of who faced better teams,
See:
>>64639459
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>>64639681
>today's NBA
>giving allstars to a injured Kobe.
>MVP mattering in today's NBA.
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>>64639704
That picture is outdated.
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>>64639684
The Spurs stacked with who exactly? Old man Duncan?

The Heat were far more stacked than the Thunder and Spurs those years.
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anyone have a webem of Faried's neck injury?

that shit didn't look that bad
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>>64639461
>Leaving out context

The years Michael exited the first rounds without Pippen he had to go up against the 80s Celtics and his teams were absolute horseshit. When Jordan is averaging over 40ppg in the first round and the Bulls still get swept, you know either the supporting cast is shit or the other team is just that much better.

Even with young, underdeveloped Pippen the Bulls got cucked by the Pistons for a few years.
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>>64639721
The point is, Lebron doesn't even come close to Jordan, and he never will.

He's never recovering from
>2-4
xd
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>>64639727
Why are the Heat stacked? Because of old man Wade, an out of place and pussified Bosh and d-league role players?
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6-0 in the finals vs. 2-4 in the finals

>excuses from "Lebron" fans
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>2016
>not shooting 3's 90% of the time
Do you even sports statistics?
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>>64639684
Seattle in 96 were stacked AF.. the Suns were stacked, it took Jordan averaging 43ppg for the Bulls to barley win games and still need a Paxson GW to win the series. Blazers in 92 were stacked. I don't need to explain the Jazz, the weakest team Jordan faced in the Finals were the 91 Lakers but that's bc Worthy and Byron were playing with injuries and Magic had HIV
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>>64639772
>actually thinks Lebron is the GOAT when he's 2-4 in the finals

Jordan had 10 scoring titles vs 1 from Lebron
Jordan won DPOY and 9x defensive first team
Jordan was more efficient over his career
Jordan had a much better legacy (6 FMVPs)

You don't need to make excuses for Jordan. He went out and established his legacy and actually won, while Lebron fans go out and make excuses for him every time he loses.

Jordan shits all over Lebron's life. Tell me how Lebron is the GOAT.

How is Lebron even better than Bird or Magic? Explain that before comparing him to the GOAT.
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>>64639864
I wanna know since when did Lebron leapfrog and become better than Shaq or Hakeem let alone Bird or Magic
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>>64638602
that 'married guy who has kids' is a helluva lot better than lebron 'fishbone caught in my throat' james
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>>64639895
Yeah seriously, "Lebron" fans are the most cancerous

Go 2-4 finals and have a shit legacy compared to everyone else on the top 5, and all of a sudden, you're #1, the greatest of all time, to a couple of neckbeards

Even Steph is better than Lebron this year
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>>64639100
This may literally be the absolute most retarded post I've ever read on this site
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>>64639864

Can't even imagine the logic.

1. Lebron James. He's 2-4 in the finals, but his teams sucked, so we're giving him the benefit of the doubt and calling him the greatest of all time.
2. Michael Jordan. 6-0 in the finals. 6 FMVPs. 10x scoring titles. DPOY. 9x defensive first team. We're putting him at #2 because Lebron is fresh in our minds.

But seriously, I can't put him above Bird or Magic. Several other players I can't put him above either. And yet Lebron fans immediately skip all of those players and jump to Jordan comparisons.
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Isnt it a good thing that skill is winning out over pure size and athleticism?
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>>64640199
people from here would disagree

muh first step
muh dribble drive
muh iso
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>>64640199
the thing is, Jordan has A+++ skill, A++ size and A athleticism

lebron is A skill, A+++ size and A+++ athleticism

curry is A+ skill, A size and A athleticism

Curry is a meme shooter. That's all he is. He's very good at it, but that's it.

Lebron is a physical freak who drives to the hoop and will always get a foul because good luck planting your feet against a 6'8" freight train who weight 250 lbs but is somehow stupidly fast for his size. Physically, Lebron is declining, he can still flip the switch and take over a game any time he wants to, but he's already in energy conserve mode. He's had a bunch of long deep playoff runs, that adds up

Jordan immediately developed his fadeaway jump shot when his driving wasn't guaranteed and could pick you apart from anywhere on the floor, not just the 3 point arc. He was also automatic for 6 rebounds a game and about 3 steals. He was, as previously stated, a DPOY and 9x defensive 1st team.

> Curry
> defense
my sides

I don't even like lebron either, but there is no denying he dragged that cavs team against last year to the finals, if they were fully healthy the warriors would've been assraped
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>>64640382
>LeBron,
>more athletic than Jordan

hell no, and that's with LeBron roiding which Jordan never did.
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>>64638702
Lakers won two more without him within 6 years. Not so bad.
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>>64640382
Bird has skill and size but he isn't athletic at all. And he's better than Lebron.
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>>64640393
>denying LeBitch athleticism
I wont give him much but by hell I'll give him that
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>>64640382

>shooting points doesn't mean anything

the post.

Fuck sake you are an idiot.
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>>64638602
>where did this "sport" go so wrong?
The year it became more about selling shoes than the actual game, so some time in the '90s (or maybe late '80s)
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>>64640199
No
According to /sp/, you're only good if you grew up poor and had no father.
These are the same niggers who think Biggie>Tupac because Biggie sold crack and Tupac had a father.
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>>64639684
This underage, the east had better competition during Jordan's years compared to Lebrons
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>>64640199
The problem, as people see it, is that one skill heavily outweighs all others. Curry is an elite passer and handler, but what really makes him ultra impactful is his shooting.
What makes Barkley super mad is that he was an absolutely beast player in almost every other aspect of the game, yet just shooting 3 pointers seems to be more effective.
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>>64638777
youre an idiot. they need to learn to adjust without him, you cant just lose your star player and expect everyone to play well, they need to adjust. also a "literally d-league team" that won two of their 3 games without him?

the offense is made around curry, the plays are made around curry, without him the team doesn't function the same. if they didnt have him ever, they'd still be a 50+ win team by the end of the year with all of the talent they have, because they'd have a different offense.
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>>64639166
>he proved it in last year's playoffs
>by losing to Curry
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