>The committee in charge of ranking the best teams
tOSU would literally booty blast MSU, Iowa and Standford if they played today.
Is the playoff committee a failed experiment already? They don't seem to understand why there were formed in the first place.
>>64601675
But you didn't beat MSU when it mattered, at home, against their backup quarterbacks
>>64601675
should... coulda... woulda...
osu is not the best team in the B1G. You didn't beat MSU. You didn't play for your conference championship. Deal with it.
would've BTFO alabama and the EEC fags too Tbh
Stanford would destroy Ohio st
>>64601778
>>64601820
>What is reading comprehension
>>64601738
How have they failed?
>>64601675
>needing "a committee" to decide the best teams
college football is disgusting
>>64601879
>MSU in top 4
>Iowa in top 5
>>64601907
This. I've been saying this all along. Every conference champ gets into the playoffs and there are some wild card teams that will also get in. It's not that hard
>>64602100
Who would decide the wild cards?
>>64601981
What did Ohio State do go deserve in?
>>64601981
hindsight is 20/20
>>64602127
Idk conference record? 2nd place in coference?
>>64602183
MSU won the conference. Iowa was the second best team in the conference.
The Big 10 did this, not the committee.
>>64602164
>it wasn't playing obvious Iowa was shite
this guy
>>64602271
Ohio State played worse
They only had one good game and that was against Michigan
![cardale2[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6TuO7KH.jpg "cardale2[3].jpg")
>>64602216
>second best team
>>64602216
I'm not complaining about the games. I agree they won they should play. But generally speaking, that is how it should work. I think teams should play within their conferences all season, with maybe 1 out of conference game and from there
10-12 team playoff using the conference winners + wild cards
>>64602316
>Didn't even make their conference's championship game
You've got no room to speak
>>64602314
There's supposed to pick the 4 best teams AS THEY ARE (yes, that means no pity for injuries and things like that) at the end of the year. That was their job and they failed pretty badly. I know it's not an easy job, but even I could see Stanford and Ohio State should be in the playoff.
>>64602347
That is one shitty idea
>>64602367
Stanford lost twice and Ohio State didn't even win their conference
They didn't deserve to be in it
>>64602385
How is it shitty?
>>64602406
You missed the point of the committee entirely. It's not about 'deserving', it's about being one of the four best teams at the end of the season, that's all that's required to get in. The committee is supposed to use everything at their disposal to decide who those teams are, they didn't, and because of that we were THIS close to seeing Iowa in the playoff over Stanford, Ohio State, and Florida.
Wouldn't a European style league system work well for college football? Or would there be too much traveling?
>>64602460
They already travel far as fuck.
![college-football-championship-d4s5583[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tC67Udx.jpg "college-football-championship-d4s5583[1].jpg")
>>64601852
>Stanford barely beat Notre Dame at home
>Buckeyes booty blast them into tomorrow
>Thinking Stanford would stand a chance against tOSU
>>64602422
Well let's see
There are ten conferences, each with a different amount of teams and the amount of good teams in each conference
You wouldn't be able to tell which teams actually deserve the wild cards or anything
And you would uproot nearly a century of this system JUST so you could soothe your autism
It's a shitty idea
>>64602452
florida are you serious. with treon at qb that team was terrible
>>64602348
Iowa didn't even have to play MSU or tOSU during the regular season. It was clear as day they weren't on the same level.
>>64602452
But Iowa didn't get in
And Stanford shouldn't have either
You want the "best" but how would you fairly determine it?
Ohio State's resume is complete shit
Stanford was too
>>64602460
Fuck no
>>64602506
I won't even argue this because you're making the type of argument committee members SHOULD be making.
Holy shit you faggots are insufferable. Just go away
>>64602529
>And Stanford shouldn't have either
Plainly false.
Ohio State was OBVIOUSLY coasting and would probably booty blast anyone they faced in the semi except Bama and that was plainly obvious to anyone with a brain. I agree they didn't 'deserve' to be in, but it's not about deserve.
>>64602585
Well then don't lose the important games
Ohio State lost the only important game of the season
>>64602615
Don't matter. The schedule is irrelevant as long as by using all your mental faculties you decide they were one of the four best teams. That's why you need really smart people on the committee or they'll just degenerate into another AP poll like they did this year.
>>64602667
>this delusion
Look
I didn't think Ohio State should have been in last year
Still don't
But they were more deserving than they were this year
If you want in, you have to prove it on the field
And in Ohio State's biggest game they failed
So they don't deserve to be in
Just picking a team because they look good shouldn't and isn't allowed
>>64602759
>If you want in, you have to prove it on the field
No, you really don't. You've missed the point of the committee entirely. If the New England Patriots were put into the NCAA for 1 year for whatever reason and proceeded to lose every game, they should still be in the playoffs. It's not about deserve, at all. Not pity for injuries, not pity for being a meme team.
The trick is to bootyblast the teams when you're scheduled to play them.
17-14
>>64602347
Smaller schools depend on getting their brains beat in by football powerhouses for the check. If you limit games to conference foes, conferences like the MAC or Mountain West would fold up. And ABC/CBS/ESPN wouldn't get their USC/Notre Dame non-conference type game for big ratings, so it's not happening.
>>64602460
Too much money involved at this point. There's no incentive to dismantle the current mechanism.
Thoughts?
>>64601857
>Crying about a hypothetical situation and not winning when it counts
Keep those tears rolling Buckos
>>64602900
See if they went 11-1 with this schedule people arguing for their inclusion would have more meat than this year
>>64602900
Undefeated
>>64602900
9-3, Fiesta Bowl
>>64602900
>>64602667
>this much autism in one post
>>64602964
I love how Buckeyes are all about the playoff when they barely slip in (last year), but when they're left out they whine like little bitches about it.
Fucking win your cupcake schedule and you won't have these problems.
Also, cfb threads should have state flags.
>>64602803
The sequel to Autism: The Post did not disappoint.
>>64603123
>>64603182
Bootyblasted.
>>64601675
>implying Stanford isn't the single best team in the nation right now.
>>64603244
>lose to NW
>can't shutout the #2 B1G team
>doesn't win Heisman
>>64602759
You're an idiot if you don't think the Buckeyes should've been in last year. They literally booty blasted the two "best" teams in everyone's eyes.
tOSU was on an entirely different level than EVERYONE last year. The committee actually got it right unlike this year with fucking MSU and Oklahoma.
Not to mention ranking Iowa of all people above a Buckeyes team that would've stomped Stanford into the ground.
>>64602460
For the sake of actually determining the best team a conference table with the #1 in each conference advancing would work best, but conference championships make too much money and the size of the conferences means they can't play that many games
>>64606226
Welcome to how EVERYONE felt about FSU and Oregon getting in last year, shitlord. This is the other side of the coin.
I cant say that OSU would have won, but if I had a choice as to who I would think was the better team going forward it would have been them, I think Vegas would agree also.
Also, why not have Vegas spread projectors choose, and just take out the points they add for teams whose fan base bets heavy
>>64606226
well MSU deserved to be in because they beat Ohio State and won the B1G championship. Oklahoma was just the flavor of the month.
come at me
>>64601675
>yfw the BCS would have still picked Clemson vs. Bama for the ship
Beating an overrated Notre Dame doesn't mean shit. Bama and Clemson would both run a train agains the cuckeyes.
>>64606226
Ohio State had less of a resume last year than Oklahoma this year, and Ohio State had less of a resume this year than last year
>>64606536
you probably said that last year
>>64601852
It would be a better game than either the Fiesta Bowl or the Rose Bowl were this year tbqh
>>64606536
>You now remember literally everyone thought the same thing last year about Oregon and Alabama
>>64606715
Yeah
People really need to stop bitching
Some year there will be blowouts
Deal with it
>>64606539
How can anyone argue that tOSU didn't deserve to be in last year. They literally showed you right in front of your eyes they were the best.
Just because you don't think their resume was "good enough" doesn't mean they weren't the best team in college football last year. The committee saw through all the bullshit about tOSU not being good enough and went with the right choice.
>>64606226
aOSU beat Alabama by a touchdown. That's not dominating.
>>64601820
MSU and Iowa both got booty blased in their bowl games.
I am happy with the outcome. everyone knows tOSU and Michigan runs the Big Ten
>>64606754
Hey look! It's someone who didn't watch the game and only looked at the box score!
>OSU playing for a championship when it didn't win its own conference
Would OSU play better than MSU did against Bama? Sure. But did they "deserve" to be in when they fell flat on their asses because they lost to MSU AT HOME playing BACKUP QUARTERBACKS? Fuck no.
MSU deserved to be in because they won arguably the second best conference in 2015. If OSU wants to argue about being "the best", either win your own damn conference or go independent and shut the fuck up.
>>64606749
Pointing to the playoffs as your evidence is completely wrong
If Kansas had made the playoffs at 0-12 and won it, would you have accepted it?
The easy fix is to just make it a twelve team playoff and get rid of the three week delay between the season finales and playoffs.
>>64606788
For what?
Soothe your autism?
>>64606788
OR we could do a proper 64-team January Madness bracket
>>64606787
If they walked in and beat the top two teams in the nation back to back then yes I would.
>>64606810
Not the same guy, but this is the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
>>64606779
This argument is beyond retarded. Iowa didn't deserve to be in the B1G Championship anyway. They didn't even play MSU, Michigan or tOSU during the regular season.
The real B1G Championship should've been a rematch between MSu and tOSU. Honestly the biggest travesty is the committee ranking Iowa better than tOSU.
>>64606779
but i want the better team in the playoff thought, simply stated, and 8 team playoff will solve this for the most part
>>64606787
First off any team with 2+ losses should be automatically disqualified from contention imo.
>>64606867
No it won't
You'll find something else to bitch about
>Amateur ""sports""
>>64606779
How fucking stupid are you?
The back up quarterback argument is fucking dumb. The Buckeyes literally won the National Championship with a 3rd (THIRD) string QB.
>>64606879
There goes Stanford
>>64606843
>The real B1G Championship should've been a rematch between MSu and tOSU.
Well sorry bud, that's now how conferences and divisions work.
>>64606867
Sure, an eight team playoff would have OSU in easy. But with how the playoff is currently structured, arguing that OSU deserved a spot more than MSU is moronic.
Also, an eight team playoff will own create the same argument we're having now for team just outside the top 4 for teams just outside the top 8.
>>64606898
>implying previous seasons matter
Regardless, losing to a weaker team at home does not a playoff resume make.
>>64606767
I watched the game. Alabama almost came back near the end. Overall, for an off-year Alabama team it was still embarrassing, but in no way similar to the blowouts that were FSU vs Oregon and Oregon vs aOSU.
>>64606892
nah cause a one lose osu team will always make it so im fine
>>64606802
It's not autism you fuck. The playoff is better than the bcs system but four teams isn't big enough of a bracket for a league as big as the NCAA. Twelve teams gives you the top ten teams in the country and two wildcards in a sense.
It eliminates any notion of power 5 favoritism and allows true Cinderella stories that TV stations and fans eat up.
Stop being a bitch. You know it's true, plus in the end it's more football to watch
Alabama and Saban were lucky OSU didn't make it
>>64607014
>The playoff is better than the bcs system but four teams isn't big enough of a bracket for a league as big as the NCAA. Twelve teams gives you the top ten teams in the country and two wildcards in a sense.
Where would those teams be picked from?
>It eliminates any notion of power 5 favoritism and allows true Cinderella stories that TV stations and fans eat up.
Actually Cinderella stories make for shit ratings
No one cares about them
>Plus in the end it's more football to watch
No it wouldn't actually
>Defending national champion with one loss in 3 years doesnt make playoffs
>ONE LOSS IN 3 YEARS
meanshile shit tier msu with lost to fucking nebraska and only beat michigan by the fluke of the century makes it.
Ya everyone on the committee needs to be fired asap
>>64607082
What team was that?
>>64607095
Would OSU have gotten btfo 38-0 if they played bama in the playoffs (keep in mind osu btfo bama in the playoffs last year)
No? Then osu shouldve been in over msu. case closed
>>64607136
>osu btfo bama in the playoffs last year
No they didn't.
>>64607136
But Ohio State lost to Michigan State AT HOME
>>64607153
And if they did, why would it matter?
This is a completely different season
>>64607157
see:
>>64607136
>>64607136
>>64607136
>>64607153
Yes they did, osu anally raped bama (who everyone thought hurrr #1 seed sec so stronk)
>>64607082
2 losses. Both to MSU.
>>64607136
Sorry OSU lost its biggest game of the year to an eventual conference championship and you're super butthurt about it.
>>64607082
And what, four quality wins in three years?
>>64607170
Im butthurt the committee clearly put the wrong team in the playoff, as witnessed by the result yesterday.
Im also butthurt that youre a mouth breathing retard
>>64607136
OSU got btfo by Michigan St at home with their backup QB. Alabama would have beat OSU by 50.
>we're better than MSU!
>couldn't beat them head to head
>couldn't win their conference
You guys ever consider that Notre Dame is just shit? they didn't beat anyone and lost every important game.
Besides it's not about picking the 'best' team. If it were then why even have the teams play at all? Just decide who the best team is by committee or pick the team with the most drafted players. The playoffs are played by the teams who earned their spot and won the games that mattered. tOSU didn't win the game that mattered.
>>64607189
Confirmed not watching the game. It was refball.
>>64607189
one of the first games actually that I could say with confidence was thrown away by the coaching staff, willingly
>>64607167
>osu anally raped bama
Nope. Not even the Bama team as this year. They're better in every regard and are playing with a chip on their shoulder.
>>64607198
>lel xDDDD look mom I posted it again!
>>64607185
Win you conference next time, bud.
>>64607219
This is actually the best argument you've made so far.
>>64607206
Why does a Canadacuck care about aOSU? Refball or not, they struggled at home and lost to a shit team.
>>64607233
>muh conferences
If all we care about is conferences winners why the FUCK do we have a committee? They are literally irrelevant then.
>>64607045
>Where would those teams be picked from?
The same way they are picked now you dunce. It's just an expansion of the current system.
>>64607241
>Alabama lost 43-37 at home to OLE MISS
>OLE MISS
>>64607219
I seriously don't understand what the argument is for tOSU to be in over Michigan State. You keep saying tOSU was 'better' but how do you know that?
Oh wait the best way to decide which team is better is for them to play. It's how we decide championships. Well tOSU lost to Sparty. They blew it. poof.
I know your pain. I'm a tennessee fan. We're a better team than our record. But we fucking blew it when it mattered. We're a better team than Florida but they deserved Michigan in the Citrus bowl over us because they beat us.
>>64607244
Teams who don't win their conference shouldn't even be considered. Committee just decides which winner sucks the most.
>Needing the BCS or this playoff bullshit
Kids, college ball was infinitely more enjoyable when you played your fucking season and then, if you did well enough, to a bowl game and didn't have this national championship bullshit.
>>64607271
>start a backup QB who's not ready
>-5 on turnovers
>still almost win the game
Terrible loss, but it could have gone worse. They used it as motivation for the rest of season anyway so it all worked out.
>>64607244
Because conference championships help determine the best football team in a given geographical area.
If OSU is better than MSU, they should have shown up and beat them. They didn't.
MSU had a bad loss and, 2 good wins, and a fluke win (which is still a win). OSU had one good loss. Normally OSU would come out on top but they lost to THE SAME TEAM that had that bad loss, 2 good wins, and a fluke win.
If you want to complain about how college football at large is structured by attacking the idea of conferences and conference champions, fine. Go for it. But until the entirety of college football dramatically changes, win your conference- hell, at least play for a conference championship, or shut the fuck up.
>>64607303
Yup, now for the forever bitching of
>but muh team shoulda been in
that expanded the basketball tourney to 65645465414 teams.
You idiots clamored for a playoff and this is the bullshit you have to deal with forever.
>>64607318
>Offensive coordinator went full retard and threw the game
>Ezekiel Elliott, the best player on the team, only touches the ball 12 times
>Literally run the same play over and over and over
>Still barely lose the game
How is this any different?
>>64607303
all of this so much
college football is about kicking the shit out of teams you hate, bragging rights. When Tennessee plays Florida or Bama those are yearly national championship games. I like seeing them whoop up on bee one gee mid tier teams, but I'd happily get beat 100-0 by Northwestern for just a victory of bummer or flawda this year.
>>64602216
When you say Iowa is the 2nd best team in the conference you lose all credibility. Ohio State is the best team in the conference, but MSU was the most deserving so obviously them going is fine. But Iowa at 5 was a fucking joke.
>an entire thread devoted to highlighting the autism of Ohio state fans
best way to end my day. topkek faggots enjoy the tears when saban takes the golden vagina trophy for the next 5 years while you keep posting about how "w-we were the f-first undisputed champs"
>>64607340
Agreed. OSU should have beaten MSU. The system is flawed because all the other teams had worse losses than that and Oklahoma doesn't even have divisions or a conference championship. If OSU was in the Big 12, they may have gone to the playoff. Justifying OSU over MSU though makes no sense. OSU is much, much better and just as deserving as Iowa though to be ranked 5.
>people saying stanford shouldn't have gotten in over oklahoma
i told you faggots the whole time oklahamoa was trash they fucking lost to TEXAS. Look at that, TEXAS. Stanford had better SOS than oklahoma they deserved number 4 even though they had one more loss, they had better wins than oklahoma.
>people saying michigan state deserved in
um lol... michigan state should be considered a 2 loss team, the whif six was the worst thing to happen it let sparty in the playoffs. Stanford should have been in over michigan state also, but if mich state had lost to mich at least ohio state would have been better than msu for the playoffs. fucking people don't use their brains.
>>64607411
I am glad you don't like facts are a stupid fucking retard. I am not an OSU fan but the system is clearly flawed...
We have a system where not all conferences even have championship games and losing earlier in the year is better than losing later. Soon we are going to have conference champs with 3 or more losses and this shit isn't going to fly.
I don't know what you guys aren't getting...Oklahoma doesn't even have divisions or a conference championship and lost to Texas. The fuck?
>>64607428
> OSU should have beaten MSU.
>Justifying OSU over MSU though makes no sense.
Actually the fact that MSU beat OSU makes it make plenty of sense.
>>64607454
that's what i'm saying. oklahoma got in on literally
>muh boomer sooner
fucking gay
>>64607480
i never said osu deserved to beat msu... i said if msu had lost the game to michigan, everyone agrees they should have and got lucky, osu would have won the big 10. (msu would have 2 losses, osu 1, osu beats iowa). then msu never makes the playoffs and osu can easily beat bama.
>>64607353
alabama won its conference. ohio state didn't.
>>64607480
Meant for >>64607438
>>64607518
>This argument again
>>64607503
My bad meant for >>64607480
>>64607503
>if a bunch of shit happened that didnt happen then this shit that wont happen could happen
You're a faggot, dude.
>>64607538
>>if a bunch of shit happened that didnt happen then this shit that wont happen could happen
do you even watch games? MSU beat Michigan on a lucky botched punt on the last play of the game. if the Michigan punter had literally just layed on the ball MSU would not be in the playoffs and OSU would be in their place. How do you not understand this?
>calls me a faggot
fuck you faggot
>>64603850
The Heisman voters are literally cucks.
>>64607561
But MSU did beat Michigan and Ohio State. MSU did win the Big 10 and get assraped on national tv. Your argument is fucking stupid.
>If we won all of our games then we wouldn't ever lose
No shit, faggot.
>>64607583
you're why sp is complete dogshit
did you watch the msu michigan game even fag?
>>64607598
>games won against teams on crazy last seconds play don't count as actual wins
Keep telling yourself that. Enjoy the game on the 11th. Roll Tide, faggot.
>>64607598
>WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT MY REALITY WHERE OSU IS IN THE PLAYOFF AND IS GETTING READY TO PLAY ALABAMA IN THE NCG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>64607637
>>64607610
>i won on a lucky play so my team is good
>>64607684
>I lost to the team that needed a lucky play to win so my team is obviously the best in the country
You're such a faggot dude.
>the burning river of ohio
You lost to MSU. Get over it.
>>64607715
>I beat a team who lost to a team on a lucky play who I lost to
>>64607719
well since ohio state beat alabama last year , and bama beat MSU, that mean sohio state technically beat michigan state.
>>64607715
>i can't understand a not very complicated concept so i'm going to keep repeating the same thing over and over
Guys we can all admit that if the game wasn't played in a driving rainstorm that made OSU's playcalling go full-retard, OSU would have bootyblasted MSU this year, right?
>>64607750
IT WAS THE RAIN THE SUN WAS IN MY EYES I COULDNT SEE DO OVER MULLIGAN WE ARE THE BEST
Is there a more crybaby fan base in the country?
>>64607765
they don't call them Ocryo State for nothing, anon
>>64607765
Did you watch the game? The offensive coordinator literally ran the same play (QB run) over and over and over because he was scared to throw the ball.
If you don't think the wheather had anything to do with that then I'm sorry you're an idiot.
>>64607318
>>64607353
>Still no legitimate explaination
>>64607765
Yes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbDx49zrts
>>64607781
>if x and y would have happened then we would win it all
X and Y didn't happen. What happened is you lost, didn't get to play for a conference title, didn't make the playoffs, and got to play notre dame in the who gives a shit bowl. There's always next year. Try not to lose 1 of the 2 games you guys play yearly.
>>64607818
No one is saying shit about winning it all. I'm saying that the play calling was clearly influenced by retardedness and the weather.
>>64607812
another call from based Phyllis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3L5aDO_uF8
>>64601852
>Gaylord Family Stadium
OSU fan, not even mad. 50-4 senior class with one of the most improbable NC's ever, crushed Michigan AGAIN, beat down ND in a bowl game. Still have Meyer, JT Barrett, and another disgusting recruiting class. I really can't see you haters through these Ohio State buck eyes.
