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So... continuing the old thread.
Also, a question. How can a N.1 status affect N.2 driver? Shouldn't they have the same car and same engine? Other than team orders, I can't see how some could have their performances so deeply affected.
I'm specially referring to Eddie Irvine in 99, for example.
>>64254575
http://www.fastcompany.com/3029762/how-a-popular-two-letter-word-is-undermining-your-credibility
>>64254690
So, I just read that autistic article.
Priority for new and replacement parts, the car is inherently designed towards the needs of the number one drivers, one-way setup work (number one gets to look at your setup if something is awry, good luck doing it the other way around), general psychological influence.
>>64254575
Well, the Number 1 status is not limited to just team orders.
In most cases, the Number 1 driver also gets first pick on new development parts of car and engine (which happens to this day, when only one of a new part is available), they get the best strategy, and perhaps most importantly, they get a lot of influence on the direction of development of the car.
So, when the hitherto Number 2 gets full backing of the team, they can finally set up the car to be ideal for them.
Taking your example of Eddie Irvine and '99, James Allen writes of an example - Ferrari had a new spec of rear wing development, which Schumacher tested. He didn't particularly like it, and it didn't make much difference to lap time, so Ferrari shelved it.
Then, post-Silverstone, when Irvine tested the wing, he immediately went half-a-second faster. It was a case of the new development suiting the style of Irvine but not Schumacher. Had they put on the new wing, Irvine could have done much better from earlier in the season, but since the development of the car was focused on the number 1, the number 2's performance suffered.
>>64254904
So, how was it?
>>64255211
So so
>tfw no Schumi ;_;
>>64255822
I still have some hope to see Schumi back in the paddock visiting old mates in some 10 years :(
>>64256232
even if it's the mika dragging him around in a wheelchair
>>64256232
>>64256238
I would literally cry tears of joy if he got well enough for this, Tbh.
>>64256232
Michael Schumacher (1969-2016)
>>64256706
Who will be first. Murray or Schumi?
>>64248745
Never. I was close, but I never quite was able to push the button.
>>64255180
>Well, the Poo status is not limited to just designated shitting streets.
>>64256232
It's because of people like you that he is still suffering in that bed
>>64254575
Do you guys actually spend time watching this glorified procession?
Literally every other motorsport is more exciting, even turn left. It's run by a manlet scumbag who sucks off the highest bidder.
Go watch the start of the WEC race at fuji this year and come talk to me about how there's more overtaking in a few laps than a whole f1 season. F1 would've pussied out of even racing because there's some rain.
Anyone who only likes f1 and no other motorsport literally knows nothing about motorsports.
>Despite this overwhelming amount of evidence that f1 is fake and gay, someone will try argue.
http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2015/december/jaguar-returns-to-racing.aspx
>>64258403
wtf is this livery lol
>>64258403
Noice
>>64258372
Here's your (You).
>>64258372
Yes, manbabies watch F1 all the time.
There is WEC around and people watch F1.
In 2015 + 11 + 15
No wonder this thread is full of filthy indians. By the way,
>>64258429
POO2LOO
>watching the meme series WEC
>not knowing about the eternal bubble of endurance racing
>British Wehrlein
>>64258546
and Nico still gets dominated by him
>>64258372
you should've asked why companies throw so much money at it instead
>>64258592
>companies throw the same budget of Toro Rosso on LMP1
>have better marketing income from it than in F1
>>64258598
>have better marketing income from it than in F1
Oh my god, this nigga is actually serious. Comedy gold, my man.
>>64258626
Feel free to go to Audi and ask them how they feel about racing on
>meme racing
rather than
>Formula Mercedes
>>64258633
Yeah, I am certain the company that has dominated LMP racing for 15 years now may have positive feelings about it. Now, about Toyota, Nissan etc., well, needing to ask them is pointless. I'll just rub the inevitable news pieces regarding their withdrawal from WEC under your nose when they arrive near the end of this century.
Endurance racing is simply not economically sustainable because it fails to appeal to a mainstream audience. Just study the history of the late World Sportscar Championship and you will see the future of the WEC.
>>64258666
>Yeah, I am certain the company that has dominated LMP racing for 15 years now may have positive feelings about it.
Thanks for agreeing with me, my point stands.
>>64258666
And by century, I meant decade.
Do the black nations like Brazil, Argentina & South Africa bandwagon Hamilton?
>>64258546
He talked about that in the bbc season review and he said something like Matt Damon wasn't there yet so Ridley Scott told Hamilton that he can try and act out that scene and he really enjoyed it, that was the high point of his weekend and when he got to the paddock everything started to go down.
>>64258697
>the nigger is actually from the Islamic Kingdom of Bongistan
>>64258697
I wouldn't say I like him, I appreciate his respect for Senna, but 2008 still brings a bad taste to the mouth.
Our media (Globo) tries to push him for the casuals as a the hero because
>he's mixed just like us
>>64258717
But he's as black like you guys right. I mean it's not like Bruno Senna is coming back & Rubens was the ultimate #2 driver. Brazil hasn't got much to cheer for so might as well get something close to your roots right
>>64256840
murray. he's what, 90? schumacher will live for a long time, unless he takes the dignitas route.
>>64258730
>like you guys
TOP KEK
>Alonso
Can't fabricate this shit
http://www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sport/formula-one/f1-fiat-chrysler-considering-bringing-alfa-romeo-brand-back-to-formula-1-competing-with-ferrari/story-e6frf3zl-1227646142368
please make it happen,
get one of those useless teams out of the way
>>64259360
>2017 could have Mercedes, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo & Aston Martin and Renault
We /1950s/ now? Wasn't that the last time when these many manufacturer-backed teams were on the grid?
>>64259410
Ferrari, Honda, Toyota, BMW and Renault literally 7 years ago?
> designated shitposting newfag
>>64259432
since mercedes had shares in mclaren that makes it six manufacturers
>>64259410
>>64259432
And that does not include McMercedes, too.
And Spyker in 2007, but they had customer engines.
>>64259410
>We /POO2LOO/ now? Wasn't that the last time when these many indian-backed Rajeets were on the designated?
>>64259432
>>64259448
I meant that particular combination of manufacturers. I worded it extremely poorly. My bad.
>newfag
I've watched all seasons live since 2000, and all previous seasons dating back to '84 from the megatorrent.
>McMerc
>manufacturer
They were a works team, but not a manufacturer.
>>64259445
25% shares. I'd argue it's not enough to be called a manufacturer team, but that'd undermine Aston Martin being considered one too.
>>64259521
aston martin is literally just sponsorship money. if the deal even goes through they'll be just as much a manufacturer as infiniti are, i.e. not at all.
>>64258666
>be me
>go to Le Mans
>fucking huge corporate events for all car makers
>audi showing that the lights they developed for their Le Mans cars are now on their road cars
>audi and Toyota talking about how hybrid systems are now in road cars
Meanwhile in f1
>we'll instate rules about team spending but let redbull spend double anyway
>Ferrari propping up new teams to get extra testing time
And I'm not arguing that more people watch f1, I know that's a fact.
I'm pointing out how ya'll need to watch legit racing series like WEC, supergt, motogp, gt endurance racing, v8 supercars, btcc rather than the shitshow that F1 calls "racing" every 2 weeks.
>>64259558
I'm aware, which is why I can't question McLaren Merc being a manufacturer, even though I personally think 25% shares aren't enough.
I just thought it was an interesting coincidence that Merc, Ferrari, Alfa and Aston as major names were last in F1 in the 50s.
>>64259603
>ya'll need to watch legit racing series
Fair enough, and I'd say most of us already do.
>rather than the shitshow that F1 calls "racing"
Why 'rather than'? Why not both (which is the case for most people in these threads anyway)?
>>64259603
>legit racing series
>motogp
Pick one
>>64259621
Aston Martin did not compete against Mercedes and Alfa Romeo in the 50s.
>>64259656
Forget it. My point was that the last decade that list of teams existed in together was the 50s.
An irrelevant coincidence which for some reason I found interesting.
>>64259499
You are a newfag in /f1/, poo2loo.
Besides, do you have to reply to every comment in every thread? Jesus...
>>64259698
>shit on streets
>thinks he can talk about f1 on the internet
>>64260014
>Besides, do you have to reply to every comment in every thread?
Yes. Yes I do. Simply because it triggers you.
>>64260277
Get a room you two
this Brazilian's obsession with the Indian is pretty sad 2bh
>>64260314
So true. I'm getting tired of this shit. (pun not intended)
Maybe they should start their own thread. Or just meet in some chatbox.
>>64260314
It was funny when I first noticed it starting up again about 3 threads ago, but I don't want to hear two weeks of
>Poo2loo
>HueHue
The Brazilian's obsession is just creepy
thank god I have them filtered
Most annoying people in current /f1/ power ranking:
1. The Hue
2. The Poo2Loo
3. The Stop Bullying Me
4. Loserbernd
GAP
5. Friendly Reminder (although I'm sure that it's 3-4 Germans with the pasta these days)
>>64260884
teach us your ways Hungarybro
>>64260997
>3 out of the top 5 are German
What can we conclude from this, gents?
>Pray for the Michael
>>64260997
0. Ahmed
>>64258413
It will change
>>64260997
Personally I find Dorftrottel like you to be most annoying.
>>64260997
Indiabro is only annoying when he's responding to the Hue
>>64261214
>which is all the time, since The Hue™ is posting poo2loo every 10 minutes
>>64260997
there are annoying brits but there are disguised by the good brits, like me
Do you guys think we will get any closer to engine parity next year?
Really hoping to see more than one team fighting for wins next year.
>>64261377
No, not really. MWL for another whole season
>tfw wwe is less predictable than f1
>>64261377
Ferrari might get closer, since Mercedes will (hopefully) be getting diminishing returns on their developments now. But to overhaul Merc would still be a tough ask. and even to compete with them will only be possible for the works team.
Renault is a bit of a puzzle for me; they were the clear second best last year, and fell back massively this year.
Honda will win nothing.
>>64261452
Overhauling Merc is not a tough ask if compared to pooing in the loo just for once in life, if you are Rajeet.
>Ron Dennis today cuts an outdated and out of touch figure. Again, in Abu Dhabi, he said that he hated “tweeting and all the other social media. I think it’s not the way for the future.” As a wise Paddock sage noted, these words on the future seemed to have come from a man living in the past. One who, until very recently, did not really understand what an email was and told people he needed to contact that he would do so by sending them “an internet.”
Well memed Ron, well memed.
>>64261532
Is he the majority stakeholder of McLaren Group? Or is the rest of the advisory board as clueless as he is?
>>64261613
I think the Bahraini consortium holds the
majority (around 50%), with Ron holding 25%. Dunno about the rest.
>>64261613
>clueless
Friendly reminder when Whitmarsh was running shit in F1, he unironically hired Perez.
>>64261642
I think the Indians shit on streets on their majority (around 50%), with rivers being 25%.
>>64261642
on Wiki it says he owns 75%
not sure if that's accurate though
>>64259603
Most people posting here do watch both, calm your shit man
>>64261653
The only thing negative about Perez is that he was too fast on occasion and triggered Button.
>>64261654
Yeah, Wiki claims he bought back the Bahraini shares at the end of last year. But I remember reading that the deal fell through because it depended on Ron bringing in a certain amount of money to the team via sponsorship deals, which he failed to do within the specified timeframe.
Not sure how true that story was, though.
>>64261685
Him only scoring 23 points to Button's 66 before India (when the car got a bunch of great upgrades but Button started having shit luck) was far worse than that.
>>64261685
that and the fact he's a shit driver, and so is button
>>64261356
you're not fooling anyone Nige
>>64258413
LOOKS GUYS LOOK HOW AWESOME ELECTRIC POWER CAN BE IT'S LIKE TRON AND THOR HAD A LIGHTNING BABY OH IT'S SO COOL LOOK AT ALL THESE NEON COLOOOOORS!!!!!
>>64261653
Why the hate on Pajeet, famm?
>>64261953
>cars still can't shoot each other with lightning bolts during the race
shit 2bh
>>64262144
Come to think of it, that would be a great way to encourage clean racing, but conductors on the cars, and if cars behind another come closer than a certain amount, charge could be transferred in a visually exciting way, also promoting overtaking.
Like a more THORSOME version of DRS!
I just watched 2012 abu-dhabi
Jesus fuck its like it was a different Raikkonen. Pls come back old gimi ;_;
>>64261421
I feel like I need to say something about this. I see people posting this like its the end of the sport. Not specifically your post but it happens mostly on places where retards aren't afraid to speak, like reddit.
F1 will always be prone to have boring during races. F1 is not a spec racing series, there will always be a big performance difference between cars, bigger than what driver ability can compensate for in most cases.
Faster cars will most likely always qualify in front of slower cars. During a race, without any unpredictable element, this will cause the fast cars to distance themselves, and slow cars to fall behind, and this happens all around the field.
This is purely the nature of the sport. If you want to watch cars passing each-other all around go watch Indy-car or something. Please don't come here and force your spec bullshit to F1 like less aero and spec floors and any other shit to make cars slow just because of overtaking. This is not what F1 should be about
Thankfully FIA agrees with that. I cant wait for 2017.
>>64262726
I can agree with this, i like F1 for the amount of TECHNOLOGY it adds to racing.
I think the only reason why people want to ban certain aspects to racing, is to bring it down to the lower levels of other teams. Which is fine and all, but that just prevents the main goal of the 'sport', and that is to go inhumanely fast.
Though it is frustrating to see a mediocre driver dominate the field simply because he has the better car though.
>>64262826
>Though it is frustrating to see a mediocre driver dominate the field simply because he has the better car though.
Agree, but that is just how it is. Challenging for the title is a privilege among the F1 drivers, not a right.
>>64262726
The problem is that in the past, teams were able to freely improve their cars week to week. Now there is this token shit and any aero changes need approved etc.
Of course the best teams would still be the best, that doesn't change even in a full spec series like Indycar. But the simple possibility meant you didn't have to brace for a full season of near identical results and novelty could happen not because of rain but because a team made a daring improvement (that everyone subsequently copied). I think the double decker diffuser was the last case of such a thing.
>>64262917
not only that, but when a team breaks through with large improvements.
It creates a huge shit storm, and it makes it enjoyable to watch again.
>Ford will never hate Ferrari with a terrible passion again
>>64262889
I completely agree with you
>>64262726
I disagree.
F1 is about building the fastest car given a formula. If part of that formula dictates spec parts to improve the racing then so be it.
If manufacturers want to piss away money developing hybrid tech then let them do so. But there needs to be a low cost alternative to keep teams around for them to beat.
>>64263079
Fuck off, "low cost" regulations are the very thing killing the sport. Most of the "low cost" rules force the smaller ta to spend more money than they otherwise would anyway. It's a joke
>>64263101
The only thing that's a joke is the cost of these new engines.
>>64263079
To a certain point, i think you are correct, but with technology. Especially newer ideas, they will always be more expensive. And as time progresses, it becomes cheaper.
If they were to give only dimension regulations, that is where the imagination and creativity stems from imo
>>64263071
you have good taste in cars
>>64262726
>F1 will always be prone to have boring during races.
Nope. Opinion discarded.
>>64263079
Regulations are welcome but when you start making cars slow because of overtaking you're doing it wrong.
Priorities are:
1. Fast cars
2. Everything else
>>64263121
t-thank you. such an elegant livery. poor peter revson - would-be revelon heir. same goes for piers courage and courage brewery.
>>64263221
my favourite part of that era was there were no barriers.
And if there were, there was very little of it. Monza was scary as fuck
>>64263121
>>64263071
>>64262967
>>64263221
look like silly mario kart cars lmao
>>64263287
they slid around like them as well
>>64258810
>not enjoying you paid holiday with included trackdays, masseuse and lots of cash
>>64261802
Lots of cars running fuel tonight lads
>>64258413
>>64261194
I loved 2000-2004 Jaguar. Such a shame they were shit.
>>64258810
>Roberto Merhi
>50.000
how? isn't the minimum wage for an F1 driver set at €150.000 per year?
>>64260314
>>64260425
>Karun Chandhok vs Ricardo Rosset
>>64263775
reminded me of this
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/48914/1/jaguar-one-of-our-diamonds-is-missing.html
>>64263809
>minimum wage for a driver
What
>>64264206
unions
>>64259410
Agreed, imagine in a few years:
Mercedes
Ferrari
Aston Martin
Mclaren-Honda
Renault
NASCAR team
Audi or Porsche
Alfa Romeo
Williams
That's a lot of relevant names that will surely make the competition more fierce and exciting. BMW will want to jump in as well if all their competitors are doing it.
>>64264242
Does the GPDA have any power? There aren't any regulations about minimum salaries as far as I can google, I'll be happy to be proven wrong. I can't even find who all the members of the GPDA are except for the chairmen and some articles about Kimi and Max not being in it. Even if such a regulation existed, many of these drivers are essentially paying their own salary via personal sponsors.
>>64264531
Also Mehri didn't run a full season, which may factor in, if there is a minimum salary.
>>64264575
it might be like a quarter back, after he plays a certain amount of games, he can no longer be red shirted
And I think the soul purpose of the GPDA is safety, not so much salary or politics
>>64259603
>Including Touring cars as 'legit racing'
The BTCC has been shit since 1998
Why are British car brands so shit?
>>64264662
they dont because none of them exist anymore excpet for a taxi company
>>64264662
At least they have brands
Also I think many of their companies are neat and make cool sports cars
>>64264654
1999 desu.
>>64264694
Well that was the first year after the 1998 peak.
>Got in home in time for Smash
Fuck yeah
>>64264727
2000 was shit.
>no volvo, renault or nissan
>class b championship
modern btcc is like indycar. just not the same.
indycar is at least watchable. but cart was the eternal goat, and battered formula 1. in my eyes anyway.
>>64264677
That's exactly what makes me so curious. They have a lot of talent for sure, most of f1 is based there. They even created a lot of what we consider a modern car, but still, British brands are nothing compared to Italian/american/German brands.
I'm back lads
>>64264881
Many of them focus on making niche cars like Ariel, Caterham, Ginetta, Radical and Ultima. Even their larger companies that are owned by cogomerates focus on niches rather than selling to the lowest common consumer. I don't know the history or why that is, but the economy/lower priced market is dominated by Toyota and Volkswagen so there seems to be no point to trying to re enter it.
>>64265058
*conglomerates
>tfw never catch typos until it is too late
>tfw autocorrect is fucking useless
>>64265058
>>64265082
VW was created on the selling point of making sure everyone had a car. Similar to beginnings of Ford.
Toyotta has made a huge profit in the past making reliable cheap cars that could compete with upper situates. They are/were similar to Chrysler when they were good/decent.
>Sources said that an Aston Martin board meeting last week had concluded with directors leaning towards a decision not to re-enter F1 for the first time since 1960.
FORSKINDIA BTFO
>>64265461
Daily reminder the """""Aston Martin""""" in the GT scene is just Prodrive doing their thing.
>>64265461
Booooooo
>>64265461
My email campaign of sending them public shitting videos paid off!
>>64264662
god focused all his energy on saving the queen rather than the industries
>>64265925
i blame the EU
>>64265950
I blame the men in brown suits at British Leyland who flew our whole industry too close to the sun in the 70s.
>>64265975
the black and tans?
or """"Eco friendly''''''''''''' people
>>64265531
>>64265993
This excessive quotes shit is retarded pls stop, you aren't a 13 year old girl.
>>64266008
sorry ill add more satire next time
>>64265461
>people genuinely thought aston martin would buy into force india
>people genuinely thought aston martin would give force india mercedes-level budget
>people genuinely thought it would make force india competitive
>>64266046
I don't think Aston's total revenue could even match Merc's F1 budget
>>64266099
they're spending a shitload on electric powertrains too
>>64266126
Shit. James bond is going to ride a electric car in the next movie?
>>64266156
He'll probably be in a genderfluid phase too.
>>64266168
atleast they wont tarnish Daniel Craig
Next Bond will be Bailey J
>>64266126
>Aston Martin vs Jaguar vs Audi vs Renault vs Citroen in Formula E
I would be okay with is
>>64266168
>>64266231
>Implying it won't be Nicki Minaj who also will be the new Doctor in DW
>>64266249
>the 100 year formula
>>64266266
Bond gotta have a dick mang
>>64266313
Fuck of cis shitlord
>>64266313
Laverne Cox then
>>64266313
I've got some news for you
i for one welcome our new overlord Bailey Jay
TOP FUCKING KEK:
>There was the interview with Danish television that he asked to start again after forgetting the name of the team’s young GP2 stand out Stoffel Vandoorne. They couldn’t of course. They were live. And so Ron compounded his error by talking up their other young prospect, Nick. Nick Heidfeld
put ron in a care home desu.
and from cuckcedes:
>The investigation has shown no reason to believe that information has been transferred to Ferrari nor have any of the court documents made any allegation regarding any inappropriate conduct by Ferrari
>>64266637
>Nick. Nick Heidfeld
oh ron, you senile devil
>>64266637
He's showing a lot of promise in Formula E, I for one think he might be the most promising young talent since Susie Wolff
>>64266929
I dunno, that young Jacques Villeneuve fellow looks pretty quick
>>64266008
Misread your post and thought you said 'excessive quotas' with respect to the 'black and tans'.
>>64266249
I'm not gonna be happy until Tesla is sponsoring a FE team.
So who's most likely to be a future champion?
>Stoffel Vandoorne
>Kevin Magnussen
>Fag Verstappen
>Alexander Rossi
>Pascal Wehrlein
>Roberto Merhi
>Rio Haryanto
>Carlos Sainz Jr
Obviously the last 3 are just for the lulz
>>64268845
Basedstappen as long as he doesn't go to the Fernando Alonso School of Changing Teams
>>64268845
>MAD MAX
>Vandoorne
>Mehri if he's kissed on the arse by the Mercedes angel while they're still dominant - watch him take Choco Senna's seat when Lew Lew leaves to make music videos with Snoop Dogg
>Carcrash Sainz Jr is underrated; if he got lucky with a car and lucky with points he could end up with one in a Button/Hill/Villeneuve kinda way
>>64268845
Sainz is good, he has a better chance than most of those on that list except maybe Verstappen and Vandoorne
>>64268876
>tfw Alonso never won a championship with Ferrari
>>64268845
>no reechardo
>no buttass
>no kiwiyacht
Most entertaining team of the year?
Top Racing Memory: Nick Heidfeld almost being killed by Prost in the first ever ePrix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG1VPss4LKI
No moment in racing I've witnessed has captured me like this prime overtake attempt
>>64269615
To be fair from a Formula E/Agag perspective I think that may have been best thing ever.
They got so much fucking coverage on all news channels because of that.
>>64269667
Could you imagine if Heidfeld got potato'd though that would've absolutely killed that league in the first race.
>>64269667
>>64269679
I couldn't believe it when I first saw it, Heidfeld flipped like 3 times in the air and landed on a concrete barrier upside down, on another day he could have just as easily died
>>64264803
>cart was the eternal goat
Damn right, Britbro.
(Not being a homer here, just appreciating great racing.)
>>64269615
did Prost get any punishment for that? that looked blatantly deliberate
>>64269679
>got potato'd
>>64269997
Yeah, I can't remember exactly what but he did, his dad probably yelled at him to kek
>>64269893
Based Menard's liveries
>>64270280
alain just knows that ayrton would've done it do him if he ever had the chance
>>64269997
He got a 10 place grid drop for the next race.
>>64269615
Dude should have hit that motherfucker in the mouth with a tire iron for that bullshit...
how do i filter brazil
>>64269893
>>64270294
One of the last pictures of Greg Moore, too - that was just before the crash that killed him.
Four wide at 240mph...if a racer has to go out, that's a pretty ballsy way to go.
>>64271260
>That crash
>>64271260
>>64271389
What killed him? was it the g force? Was it hitting the wall with the head at +150 km/h? was it the rolling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tl-6oqN0i4
>>64265531
But that's the same as saying Jaguar winning Le Mans in 88 and 90 was just TWR doing their thing. Nobody remembers it like that.
So lads, I finally got through rewatching the 2010-2014 seasons, what seasons should i watch next?
>>64271927
You must be tired of hearing Hamilton and Vettel
Watch Le Mans with Steve McQueen in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be3-J9XtJCw
>>64271927
'97 or '98. Or maybe 2003
>>64265671
You forgot your Indian proxy, m8jeesh.
>>64263409
>blue and yellow livery
what the fuck were they thinking about
>>64272364
they knew they'd be signing alonso
>>64254690
>brogrammers
>>64272752
>you now remember Narain Karthikeyan
>>64266637
Did he actually say Heidfeld?
If not, he probably meant Nick de Vries. One of there young drivers in FR3.5.
>>64272854
heidfeld was also a mclaren test driver back in the day
>>64272718
That reaction of Smedley. Pure gold
>>64272162
R A J E E S H
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POO2LOO desu senpai.
Jenson is standing on the big building at the Abu Dhabi circuit. He wants to demonstrate how safe it is. He claims that if you fell you would simply slide to the bottom. He feels so strongly about this he is willing to use he daughter to test the theory. He drops her. At first she slides, but then the angle becomes too steep and she begins to tumble. She lands awkwardly on a pile of pillows and is pronounced dead at the scene.
lame webms tbqh
>>64272718
>tfw that crushing feeling I forgot to buy ice this morning
>>64271927
heh, i'm doing the same, starting from 2014 working backwards until the files are no longer HD and almost done with 2013 (just watched Korea and it was fairly entertaining despite that track's awful reputation)
after that, gonna start with Schumi's rookie season and work up to where i left off and then finally chronologically from 1978
Been watchin F1 on and off for about 3 years now, how long will Haas last you lads think?
>>64273965
gene will have a stroke at monaco 2017 and the team will collapse after his immediate death
>>64273983
Will Grosjean carry the Haas-Ferrari machine or die by it?
>>64274004
Gutierrez surely isn't going to be scoring points
>>64274242
What do you think their ceiling is for 2016, a top 7 finish or two? Can they even achieve that much I wonder, everyone seems to think Haas is gonna get wrecked and I can't really disagree
>>64274268
I think they will be slightly better than expected, competitive lower midfield at worst
>>64274317
Its a dallara chassis . I'd keep my expectations for now tbhfam
>>64274317
most of their hirees are from marussia and caterham
won't be competitive lad
>>64274340
>>64274355
I'm putting a bit of stock in the fact that Haas as team has a solid racing background and the fact that they received some Ferrari International Assistance
I accept the fact that they will probably suck major assholes but my spirit and optimism will not be broken
>>64272364
Im not sure, they only had it blue for two races in 1964 though
>Haas F1 will never have this livery
>>64274390
haas exploiting the wind tunnel loophole was 100% to benefit ferrari's 2016 aero via testing as many parts as they like rather than to benefit haas in any meaningful way, as those 70 ferrari employees who were briefly on the haas payroll are not in any way shape or form involved with the design of the haas car.
their car will be shit, their pitstops will be shit, their strategy will be shit, esteban will be shit and the us will have yet another failed team.
>>64274417
whoa lad, let's wait until they fail to throw them into the fire, an American team will be good for F1
>>64274408
i love that the people who design those concept liveries never took the time to realise that ferrari have a strict policy of never allowing customer teams to put ferrari logos on their car
instead you just see the prancing horse plastered everywhere they can manage to cram them into
>>64274439
If Haas helped Ferrari cheat the least they could do was let them use the pony tbqhwymf (to be quiet honest with you my friend)
>>64274408
The yellow paint is actually kind of good looking, though I would have gone with baby blue
>>64274439
>Americans in charge of giving a shit about foreign nation policies
>>64274446
Nah. That is not how it works m8. Its a brand thing. Ferrari is ultra-excluisve. The only car that can ever carry a Ferrari logo is a Ferrari.
>>64274436
not doubting that, gene is just in way over his depth and believes that five or six strong employees will mean the team will be competitive while ignoring the need for the 150+ others who are integral for having a functioning unit.
>>64274417
>Being so negative
What's got you so down f.a.m?
>>64274446
>>64274468 is exactly right. the only customer team to ever carry ferrari logos were NART and that's because they were literally works ferraris
>>64274499
>>64274468
I know, just shooting the shit, though I do hope they keep their Black and Yellow livery
>>64274470
I think they know they're gonna be shit they just don't want to say it so they can gather more hype/fans, either way I'm sure Haas-Ferrari will bring us some laughs
Would f1 be better if the grid was replaced entirely by Porche factory drivers?
Mark Webber
Earl Bamber
Nick Tandy
Patrick Long
Patrick Pilet
Brendan Hartley
Timo Bernhard
Jorg Bergmeister
Neel Jani
Roman Dumas
Wolf Henzler
Michael Christensen
Marc Lieb
Richard Lietz
Frederic Makowiecki
Kevin Estre
>>64274571
Nope, some of them have only driven Porsches for the last 10 years.
>but
>Would a category make entirely out of Porsche LMP1s, GTEs and GT3s be better than F1?
Yes.
>>64274571
>list beings with Wobbler
No comment needed.
>>64274640
>not wanting a field of only Webber or JPM
this guy
>>64274621
Did you hear the unfortunate news?
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/lmp1-performance-cuts-confirmed-for-2016/
>>64274665
Are they trying to step away from Hybrids now?
>>64274697
No, if anything the fuel flow limit pushes towards having even more hybrid crap
The only deployment limit is going to be at Le Mans bc its FIA grade 2
>>64271536
A combination of all of the above. Not even a HANS Device would've saved him that day IMO.
What's worse: Ron Dennis' handling of McLaren or JJ Abrams handling of Star Wars?
>>64274745
i got you, the teams will be hit really hard though this year with the fuel limits. Do you think they are trying to push the diesel hybrid combo as well? Or is the 4,9L gasoline equal to 3,8L diesel cut?
>>64274811
both have one last shot to redeem themselves
>>64274814
Eh, i dunno
Porche won with a 2.0 V4 this year and Toyota is moving to a V6 for 2016 if i remember right
>>64274268
top 7 would be a great finish. i think they are going to finish 8th and I feel that's optimistic.
confidently feel they are going to finish above Sauber and Manor, so that's 9th. any higher depends if McLaren and Lotus/Renault can get their shit together or not. don't see them challenging Toro Rosso at all and that's the next team up,
>>64275068
why does everyone think Sauber is going to stay shit/get worse?
what people need to assess about haas possibly beating sauber and manor is their respective drivers.
haas have one very good driver, and dead weight for the other. the car and updates are a complete unknown.
sauber have a good driver and a middling/poor one. they cannot develop a car over a season anymore it seems.
manor at a competitive level in f1 are an unknown. their drivers (especially if they choose harayanto or german hamilton) are poor. they should retain rossi. they do have the best pu on the grid, and williams gearbox and rear end (i think).
that said, i think haas could beat both teams, IF they had a good second driver. i'm not sure grosjean can do it alone.
>>64271536
>>64274794
Yes, it was a combination of everything (speed, last-second flip that meant his head was crushed into the wall by the car, tumbling), though I knew the moment he hit the wall he was gone.
When God decides it's your day to go home...you go.
>>64274811
The new Star Wars has pretty much 100% good reviews, and it's Star Wars so there's only so much you can do. Bennis is simply too old and stuck in his autistic ways now.
>>64275245
Grosjean gave up the opportunity to be a Renault works driver in order to join Haas. Surely there is something he saw in the team and car in order to warrant such a risky move.
I think Haas will have the best car of the three worst teams. Whatever Nasr can do in the Sauber I think Grosjean will do a little better in the Haas. Gutierrez and Ericsson will both be literally who, and it will be interesting to see if Manor can compete.
Formula Meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si7kvd54Fis
>>64275657
Vettel is really giving gimi :DDDDD
fight for all those meme shekels
>>64275657
He's really matured post-Red Bull. I quite like his personality now.
>>64275686
I guess that happens to all drivers when there is no real competition on his team partner.
If Kimi was giving him a run for his money I don't think he would be so cheeky.
>>64275606
i read that he didn't want to wait so long for the renault decision to take place - maybe he thought it wouldn't happen? i'm sure i also read that alain prost (apparently has influence at renault) doesn't like grosjean.
you have to factor in the manor package though. mercedes and williams, and the team is not new. but if they choose two shit drivers, it may be for nothing.
>>64275795
I doubt Grosjean's decision had anything to do with uncertainty of the deal. I'm pretty sure everyone involved knew Renault was committed.
The rumor on here was that Renault was just playing hardball with Bernie and CVC to get more TV money and that Renault offered to pay Genii for any debt that resulted from their waiting.
>>64275785
you misunderstood
meme shekels are separate from actual shekels as they are tied to your meme factor not your driving ability
>RB & TR will pull out
>Lotus too deep in denbts, will pull out
>it's Foreskindia's last year, don't even have a finished car
>fucking Manor, their car doesn't even run, this is their last year
>Sauber sued to their death, kek
What a drama, and here we are with 11 teams for next year. Can't say that I really expected a team to leave, but still: I like it.
>>64275686
he was the same at Red Bull, he just didn't show it as much
>>64276208
>it's Foreskindia's last year, don't even have a finished car
didn't even know about this rumor; what was it over?
>>64276317
They missed pretty much all of testing because they didn't have enough money to pay their suppliers to build the car.
It took them half the season to get their new car ready.
>>64276317
>>64276345
Plus Vijay spending half of his time in front of some judge
>>64276345
The fact that the new car was pretty much the third best in non-downforce-reliant conditions makes me sad. Force India are the single most scummy and shady team on the grid, yet they somehow always produce good cars to mask the weaknesses of their drivers.
>>64276379
>not rating Hulk and Checo
>>64276417
Hulk's performance this year has been tier 3 at most. Checo was better, but then he's carried by his tyre saving skills and has almost no other redeeming traits. It also helps that he can't really crash into people like he did in ages past if he's always trying to stop 1 less time (and thus never has to overtake anybody).
>>64276417
Perez was pretty good this year, but Hulkenberg solidified himself as a meme driver.
Remember when everyone was linking him to Ferrari and Williams? What a joke.
>>64276417
>tfw he had two front wing failures and a dns in belgium
and everyome ignores his good first half of the season, and forgets sergio's middling first half, and they only focus on his second half.
20 point difference isn't much. it was 96-59 to hülk ladt year, and nobody said amything.
>>64276450
>Williams
Especially funny when you consider just how much Rubens destroyed him that year. One fluke session doesn't suddenly make him any better than he actually is.
Don't mind me, just the most entertaining and innovative brand of "motor" sport coming through
>>64276470
>and nobody said anything
Because nobody expected anything from Perez, who was outscored by Button 66-23 before the car got good and Button started being crashed into repeatedly. Even with those 20 points, Hulk would've lost if you also compensate for Perez's bad luck at other points in the year, and losing to Checo at all is beyond damning.
>>64276475
>spec series
>innovative
Maybe you were making a joke?
>>64276486
>>64276506
It's only season 2 lads, many manufacturers are coming in and teams are being allowed to do more and go faster every season, Formula E will change racing 2bh
>>64276528
No, racing will change formula e, not the other way around.
Infrequent reminder that Jolyon Palmer is a works Renault driver
The city of why
>>64277363
Blocked their own video kek
Ron Dennis better send Bernie "an internet"
No bullying of me is allowed!
>>64275657
Wow those fucking cunts have no sense of humor and I don't just mean the serious business Mercedes faggots.
The staff was telling Seb to stop joking around...what the fuck.
>>64277569
Russia is no place for humor after all..
>>>>www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/features/2015/12/best-of-f1-2015-ecclestone-rosberg-frank-exchange.html
Bernie and Nico talk about F1, who would be a better champion
>Bernie: From a pure business aspect - sorry Nico if I have to say this - you are not so good for my business.
>Betaberg: Wait a minute. That is a hard call.
>Bernie: It sounds harder than it is meant. Unfortunately you don’t have the German fans on your side. As the cancellation of the German Grand Prix indicates, Germany is a terrible market for Formula One. On the contrary Lewis is a hero in the UK. The British love Formula One. Sebastian (Vettel) is also not doing much for F1. People hardly recognise him on the street.
>Lewis is a hero in the UK
>UK
That's an odd way to say Americucks
>>64277538
S U T I L
M
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>>64277701
No one here knows who Lewis Hamilton is.
If you ask anyone in America to name a formula 1 driver they'd say Mario Andretti.
>>64277820
That's a fucking lie. I'm American.
>>64277870
The flag is wrong. I'm posting from Texas
>>64277820
i asked my sister, who knows nothing about Formula 1 or sports in general, if she could name any drivers
she named Lewis Hamilton and "Alonso something or something Alonso"
>>64277955
I would fuck your sister probably
>>64277955
I called mine and she said Schumacher, but then again, I've had the TV blaring his name at ungodly hours of the morning since I knew what F1 really was.
>>64277980
I'd fuck her too I think
>>64272364
Those weren't entered by the Ferrari factory team, they entered with the Argentine Automobile Club and José Froilan González.
>>64278029
I think an autistic fuck tried to come near her like you, I'd kill you. Of course I'd spend hours with you tied up in my basement so that I could bully you until you begged to die.
>>64278068
aren't you doing that already?
TOP FUCKING KEK IT'S REAL:
Here's video of Ron Dennis 'forgetting @svandoorne's name' and mixing up his Nicks as mentioned by @thebuxtonblog:
streamable.com/vrmt
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>>64278232
QUICK
N
I
C
K
>>64278232
He
Fucking
Said
Quick
Nick
>will be nurtured for the rest of their careers.
>>64278068
Please no
>>64272696
That's one good crash tbqh
>>64272790
>>64272798
Remember that race, funny.
>>64278232
>we have Stoffel, we have Vandoorne and of course Nick Heidfeld
Why the fuck would he say that?
>>64278319
he's traumatised that lewis left the team that made him. this has left ron psychologically damaged beyond repair, resulting in dementia.
>>64278349
Ron cannot leave the safety of his box for long
>>64278260
Mmmmm
>>64278068
animefag rekt hard
>>64278232
top rebarbakek
>>64278232
Ron is old ;_;
Dont make fun of him guise
>>64278319
>Why the fuck would he say that?
Ron memorized the dictionary from a young age which doesn't leave room for much else
>>64278647
would 't be surprised if that's true, kek.
>>64274571
Nick Tandy seems pretty handy at the wheel but you forgot Hulk so that's a "no" from me.
>>64278647
That's quite the inimical way to spend time as a youth.
>>64278232
Absolutely Rebarbative
Friendly reminder that I'll fuck your sisters if you don't stop bullying me.
>>64279721
Friendly reminder I'll bully you to the point of death, and then keep you on life support if you don't stop.
>on holiday in America
>get to have this American flag and pretend I'm a clueness American
alright lads, NASCAR > F1 desu senpaitachi
>>64279944
Okay I'll keep quiet ;_;
That was uncalled for
>>64278232
Ron looks like death and has dementia all of a sudden, I'm pretty worried about him desu
>>64279721
How much autism do you have?
>>64279981
Let's meet up and have some holiday butt sex
>>64279981
Where in America are you visiting?
>>64279993
JA ZU RASSISMUS
Fatties keep shitposting, why shouldn't others?
>>64279981
Are you enjoying your stay in the land of the free and the home of the brave?
>>64280065
no faggot, already seen some guys holding hands in the street, disgusting desu
>>64280072
places on the west coast, heading up to oregon tomorrow then washington
>>64280081
food is nice, other things not so much desu, hate not being able to cross the street whenever I want
>>64280131
>west coast
you picked the worst part of the country tbqh
>>64280147
U wot?
>>64280131
make sure you get some space cookies when you're in washington
>>64280147
>>64280157
Minus the driving roads this desu senpai.
>>64280131
Meh, I've crossed the street when I was supposed to, didn't stop the fucker from turning the corner into me.
Is that a thing in Europe? Just cross when you like?
>>64280131
dont get shot in LA
>>64280147
been to the east coast before, florida, pilly, maine, didn't really like it as much as i liked washington, havent been to oregon before so looking forward to seeing it
all those trips before though was when iI was a kid so can't really remember much
>>64280160
not a degenerate desu
>>64280187
yeah just cross where ever and whenever you like, not against the law
>>64280202
not setting foot in la tbqhwyl
>>64280278
good idea, north cal is best ca, even then its kind of shit
>>64276528
Dead series is dead m8
>>64277519
Its only block on embed, so you have to watch on the yt page
>>64259603
A le mans car has to be reliable, so super high compression motors are not feasible. Meanwhile, in Fucked 1, cars are making retarded amounts of power, with all but a foot wide strip of carbon fiber dangling daintily off the ass of the car acts as the difference between cornering and pulling a Senna. F1 cars shouldn't go any faster than they do now. Le Mans is like a few straights, a few chicanes, a few tight turns, taken at off throttle 2nd gear, and then more straights. It is not that technical. It is not that hard. It just takes patience, and the mind of a fucking robot to find your braking landmarks, and running through a fucking mental checklist of corners for a few hours. Le Mans is more about the engineering.
Meanwhile, F1 is tapped out in fourth through a death bend, where a 10 mph difference in speed actually decreases their grip, and then they spin off the track, wheel to wheel, in open cockpits, while on fire. It requires a great manufacturer, and great drivers.
F1 needs to get rid of the no refuel rule, the budget cap, and the tire faggotry. Other than that, they're doing great.
>>64280842
Le mans cars run at more than 1 track ya know? Also a team can't afford to develop only reliability if they have any desire to win, they are essentially running at sprint pace for 24 hours.
>>64281454
>LMP cars hold track records everywhere
>F1 is slow
The only thing that you can hold over F! is the night racing. That is the only difficult or frightening part.
>>64280842
>so super high compression motors are not feasible
TS040 runs 17:1, stop pulling facts out of your butt desu senpai
>>64281749
>TS040
How the fuck are they running 17:1 without direct injection? Fucking Japanese wizards.
>>64281515
I don't know what you're saying here in the green text as I didn't say any of those things.
Since we are talking about other series anyway.. what other sports do you watch /f1/, including racing?
For me
>Racing
Indy (though I have been drifting away from it recently)
FE (this shit is surprisingly good)
F1
WEC
Motogp
Brazilian Stock car
>non racing
soccer (brazilian championships and sometimes uefa)
surf
Rugby (World cup sometimes)
UFC
>>64278068
>I'd spend hours with you tied up in my basement so that I could bully you until you begged to die
You'd force him to watch Sky's coverage of Formula 1?
>>64282055
>racing
F1
Indycar
WEC
V8 Supercars
GP2 but not so much this year
>non racing
lol
>>64282251
>>96
>>64282055
>Brazilian Stock car
I have no idea why I laughed so hard reading this
So what is the proper way to watch/follow WEC anyways with such long races?
>>64282290
I would laugh even harder if you watched it
ft. Brazilian legends Rubens Barichelol, Luciano Burti, Antonio Pizzonia and Ricardo zonta.
So much speed
>>64282296
-Get comfy
-Tune in to a high quality acestream
-Watch the first hour
-Keep it in the background and listen for raised voices and look in once in a while
-Watch the last hour
-make the occasional post laughing at ferrari
>>64282351
BTW this is for the 6 hours races at boring tilkedromes
For Le Mans you better be prepared to throw away 2 days so you can watch all of it or as much as possible because it is fun and the threads are great.
Will Renault and Honda improve relative to the other engines or will they remain shit?
>>64282055
>racing
-F1 (religiously)
-Indycar (not as religiously)
-FE, GP2, GP3 (fun to watch when I remember a race is on)
-WEC (follow but don't watch much, tough to watch a 6 hour+ race)
-WRC (I wish it was really good again and there was actually good coverage of it)
-NHRA (don't watch much but love going)
-NASCAR (not really by choice)
>non racing
-Baseball
-Basketball
-Football
(all religiously)
-Hockey
-UFC/boxing
-Tennis
-Golf
(only big events)
-Soccer (World Cup only)
I watch too much sports and should do something useful with my time...
>>64282386
I expect nothing from Honda in terms of pace. Maybe they won't retire so often. Renault I have no clue about. I would love for the factory team to destroy redbull and witness Horner's tears
>>64282055
>racing
F1
MotoGP
would really like to start following WEC, WRC, IndyCar, and Formula E; may give NASCAR another shot (can't into ovals really, sorry)
>non-racing
soccer (La Liga, English Premier League, Serie A, Bundesliga, UEFA competitions, and MLS)
Olympics
NBA
NCAA College Basketball
and I just read up on the NFL and college football, don't really watch games anymore
>>64282711
also the FIFA World Cup, ofc
>>64261377
I am hoping that Ferrari will be a lot closer to Merc next year. I think it is entirely likely that they will be. In-fighting amongst Hamilton and Rosberg will definitely hurt them if Ferrari are biting at their heels. So that will be good to see F1 actually have some competition again.
>>64282752
Does Merc still restrict what engine settings Williams can use?
>>64282386
>>64282461
Honda could well improve performance-wise. I read something the other day saying that Honda had much improved their MGU-H deployment.
In fact I read something saying that Alonso trialled a "full-deployment" lap at Abu Dhabi, and he got the third fastest lap of the race.
As for Renault, they could well beat Red Bull, because I'm pretty sure they're not supplying RB with a full-spec engine.
>>64282784
Is that what they do? I thought they just supplied them with an older engine.
I sincerely doubt they will give Williams the full-force, up to date power unit in any case.
>>64282055
>Racing
F1
FE
NASCAR
MotoGP
>Non-racing
Cricket
Tennis
Mandrama
>>64282055
Football
Tennis
Golf (if I'm really bored)
anyone have a list of good motorsport/f1 docs/vids/movies etc?
>>64283134
Not comprehensive, but Grand Prix is a classic - though some people skip the non-racing scenes - and features real footage from F1. The old Spa circuit with onboard vision from Phil Hill's car is magnificent - you come to realise that the only reason the cars in the 60s handled at all was that the centre of gravity was low cos the driver's balls were so big.
Rush is rather good - fairly close to how reality went, nicely shot - though you'll see they use and over use Brands Hatch to stand in for a bunch of tracks. The casting is excellent.
Grand Prix the Killer Years and One (which is a bit of a bitch to search for, torrent wise haha) are both excellent documentaries covering similar themes - the safety of the cars and some of the more notable, more tragic accidents.
>>64283134
Both "Truth in 24" audi movies are good. Jotasport made one too I think it was just called "road to le mans".
Patrick Dempsey had a documentary series about le mans, not sure what it was called but people say it was good.
>>64282055
NHRA
WEC
Indycar
Off-Road (Dakar, Baja)
MotoGP
Formula E
V8 Supercars
NASCAR
WRC
>>64276506
Power train development is opened up for season 2.
>>64277538
Are you sure you're not a mono-eye?
>>64283134
Basically the American Senna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIn0Ca9ekg4
>>64283134
Days of Thunder
Le mans (1971)
Winning (1969)
Winning (2015)
The world's fastest indian
American graffiti
>>64283522
so god damn shakespearean
>>64272364
it wasn't ferrari's entry, see also other privateer ferraris in various series
>>64275245
>they should retain rossi
no they should not
rossi brings next to nothing in sponsorship and isn't a particularly quick driver at all. he only looks quick compared to stevens because stevens is yuji ide tier.
>>64275606
>>64275882
>Surely there is something he saw in the team and car in order to warrant such a risky move.
it was 100% down to the uncertainty of the renault deal and renault not guaranteeing any sort of competitiveness until 2018. grosjean knew that going to haas for a foot in the door of a ferrari seat in a few years was his best option.
everyone at enstone knew that renault were committed to buying the team back, but at the same time would drop out of the deal if bernie didn't give renault the historic constructor bonus, and knowing bernie that was a very possible outcome. grosjean also signed for haas after the italian grand prix where negotiations between renault and bernie were believed to be at their worst.
>>64275245
Haas should have hired Ryan Hunter-Reay or Josef Newgarden instead of that Mexican pay driver. Gene Haas is a billionaire and if his team is competitive and becomes popular in the USA, he will have a license to print money. The team isn't going to become popular here with some spic that nobody has heard of other than F1 fans.
>>64282816
until monza of this year williams had the same engine as merc
mercedes just used the excuse of "hpp can't manufacture any more engine esé we don't have the monies pls pay us twice as much"
they'll have the same engines again in 2016
When Alonso remembers the 2010 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
>>64283638
lel
>>64282055
>Racing
F1
Moto GP every once in a while
Formula E and GP2 if I catch the race on TV
DTM some times
>non racing
Football (real football), specially the Premier League and Uefa shit
I always watch the superbowl but don't care about NFL throughout the year
>>64282055
Racing:
-F1
-WEC (go to Spa every year to see them, it's great!) (must admit I don't watch the races after Le Mans in full)
-Dakar
-DTM (only highlights)
-FE (only have seen this season)
-Indy (started watching since this year again, but only saw the first half of the season)
-Started watching WTCC in 2014, but gave up after the first couple of races, since it is just Citroenwinslol
What I'd like to watch (again):
-NASCAR (if I find the time)
-WRC (if it ever becomes good again / if there'll ever be good coverage again)
Other sports:
-Football/soccer (only EC and WC and their qualifiers, and the last matches of champions league)
>>64282055
F1
FE
Football (Bundesliga, EL, CL)
Superb Owl and Playoffs
various Winter sports
>>64282055
racing:
f1
wtcc
wec
endurance races
indy 500
blancpain
gp2
gp3
porsche """""""""super"""""""" cup
wsr
non racing:
alpine skiing (atm)(we should all get on it it's fucking rad)
footy
waterpolo
handball
swimming
hockey (non NHL)
tennis
>>64285153
How would he be popular with drivers that aren't known here anyway? A billionaire doesn't become a billionaire by throwing money at dumb ideas. The idea is to use some capital to start up the te, but bring in partnerships via sponsors so you don't lose money. Bringing in americans just because they are American wouldn't move the needle one bit. I love indycar but there is nothing to suggest they would do better than Gutierrez and more likely would do worse and only hurt the opinion of Americans in F1.
Was Zandvoort the best F1 track ever? It was all about speed and driver skills. Post any track that was better.
>pro tip: you can't
>>64286528
Spa?
>>64286528
new zandvoort is a 10/10 track
just a shame its pitlane and paddock are too small for f1
>>64286528
Old Spa was still the best track of all time.
>>64286546
>>64286578
Wish we still had 4 or 5 min laps in modern F1
>>64286558
Look at all what the destroyed
>>64286590
they*
>>64286590
Sadly missed. Like driving on the old roads around Spa, or worst still what happened to Hockenheim.
At least the 'Ring is still there to drive on.
>>64286590
i agree that it's unfortunate they had to demolish the old track, but imo the new layout is even better (if a bit on the short side)
>>64286602
>'Ring
Made me think about this Ring :(
>>64286626
the old track is still there except for boschkurve and rindt
>>64275606
at the time when grosjean had signed for haas, there was no guarantee that renault would buy lotus.
in the event that grosjean stayed and renault did not buy lotus, grosjean most likely would not have a seat next year. either lotus would not be on the grid or he would have to find more money than maldonado or palmer.
>>64285153
>Haas should have hired Ryan Hunter-Reay or Josef Newgarden instead of that Mexican pay driver.
when the mexican pay driver beat newgarden in GP3?
>>64286799
>>64286824
1. rebarBative
2. It was Boullier not Benis
3. POO
>>64286839
>rebarBative
Fuck.
>It was Boullier not Benis
I know, but it sounds more like Ronspeak via Boullier, so I put Benis in.
Should I bother fixing them, or are they not worth it?
>>64286848
fix it like jimmy
>>64282821
Is public Shitting a Sport?
>>64286887
If it were, it would be IndiaWinsLol
>>64286858
Fixed spelling, but kept Ron instead of Boullier. For some reason, he seems fitting for it.
Absolutely too many rebarbative images.
sorry for the reddit meme but this came to my mind and I have to get rid of this shit
>>64287071
Sorry m8
Rebarbative is undank
Ronspeak is undank
please let us give power to the almighty underlord to take Ron away
And Bernie too
\o/
who /LIDF/ here?
>>64282290
Brazil has a touring car category that differs from every single touring car formula because of
>muh tradition
which runs, on a spec basis, a V8 engine on a tubular chassis and calls that "Stock Cars". Throughout the years, they have even used nitro as a boost system for those cars (while today it is the traditional push to pass).
>Súper TC2000 is much better than it
>>64287551
that petronas
>>64287551
Sounds like Trans-Am minus the nitro
>>64282821
>F1
Shit.
>FE
Muh pseudoseries with RC cars. Is it the new A1GP?
>NASCAR
Turn left.
>MotoGP
Spicwobble
>Cricket
Acceptable despite being a shit sport
>Tennis
Not a sport
>Mandrama
POO2LOO suicide yourself Raheesh
>>64283441
>NHRA
Wooooo exciting race vroom vroom autism
>>64285991
>WTCC being Citroenwinslol
Pechito is the best touring car race in history. You should be thankful to watch him win 75% of the races.
>>64283522
>American Senna
HAHAHAHAHA
>>64287751
>American Senna
Shouldn't it be called "Lewis" then?
If the fatburger didn't threaten to kidnap me, I'd tell you to stop fucking bullying me right now. But he did.
Soooooo..... I'll be quiet ;_;
>>64287828
but if your hands are tied how can you type?
>>64287947
Why is this happening to me
I'm innocent
>>64282055
>Racing
F1
MotoGP
WRC
WEC
>Non Racing
football (soccer)
basketball (both european and NBA)
the american sports (NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB)
tennis
olympics (summer and winter)
>>64283522
>It's making the air on Earnhardt angry, it don't know what to do
https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/677157019237933056
Haas confirmed for obeasts
>>64282055
Wait, are the Brazilian that made his own thread for the BR test match?
Youre a pretty cool guy if you are.
and its mostly WEC, Indy, and F1 for me
Rugby, Soccer, Baseball, and Hockey too
>>64288514
>4 December 2013
im a fucking idiot
ESPN did something neat
http://espn.go.com/i/infographics/20151111_f1/F1_Endoftheroad_infogr8b.pdf
>>64287422
I wont defend much of his personality, but Lewis definitely is a top 5 driver on the grid. Only Alonso and Vettel are for sure better than him.
>>64288920
>5
Maybe in recent times, but overall he's still top 3 among the current drivers. Then again, Alonso's also been falling off in recent times.
>>64289279
>there are two drivers better than Hamilton "in recent times" that are not "current drivers"
Chad plz.
Wobbler? Merc-Schumacher?
C'mon.
>>64289357
Recent times = current grid and nobody else, though I still think Hamilton is at least in the all-time top 10 (as are Vettel and Alonso).
>>64289279
hamilton is grosjean-at-the-start-of-2012 tier (or even hamilton 2011 tier desu) and has been since 2013. he was good before that but his years at mclaren were purely a detriment to his racing style and he hasn't recovered at all.
>http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/itv-to-step-in-as-bbc-backs-out-of-f1/5098163.article?blocktitle=News&contentID=42816
get ready for adrian "the ledge" chiles :DDD
>>64289467
>since 2013
Nah, 2013 largely only happened because it was Rosberg's team (good riddance, Brawn) and because he had a hole in the chassis for much of the second half. 2014 and 2015 completely eroded his wheel-to-wheel racing skills though, and he's still utterly incapable of thinking for himself or fostering any sort of functional relationship with those around him.
People tend to massively overrate his 2007 season and judge him based on that.
>>64289563
he deteriorated massively over the course of 2013 tho
regardless of the hole in his chassis he could not race wheel to wheel to save his life by midseason
>>64289467
Hamilton is a victim of his prima donna attitude.
F1 drivers are ridiculous. They demand outrageous compensation and act like children.
I would argue that his time at Mercedes has been more poisonous than McLaren. He didn't have the level of dominance that Mercedes has now and McLaren really had a leash on him PR wise.
>>64289521
>BT Sports F1 coverage
>Michael Owen walking around the grid aimlessly
>>64289563
>2013
>Rosberg's team
Lolno, it was Hamilton's the moment he signed for the team. Ffs I remember Rosberg getting a podium and all Brawn and Lauda talk about HAM's disappointing race
>>64289941
>tears his acl, hamstring and mcl as soon as he tries to go back to the commentary box
>has to be stretchered off, takes 18 months away to recover
>>64289563
>Rosberg's team
Yeah, particularily in Malaysia.
>>64289851
his mclaren years were what led to it imo. he had no control over his image and ron had a total vice grip over him.
when he freed himself from that when he signed for mercedes he was so used to having the mclaren dick up his bum that his newfound freedom gave him ex-disney-child-star syndrome and completely skullfucked him
>>64290012
That coincides with the moment Brawn finally lost control of the team.
>>64290074
>they had to bring him in to team radio to finally execute team orders
>lost control of the team
You cannot make this shit up.
>>64289941
>You are now imagining Robbie Savage trying to interview Raikkonen
>>64282055
>Racing
sailing (The GOAT form of racing)
F1
WRC
Indy a little bit
Horses
>non racing
Hockey
Football (mostly NCAA because college student)
Baseball
Soccer (NCAA and world cup)
>The commercial PSB is ready to step in after the BBC decided to walk away early from its seven-year deal, which was due to run until 2018, as it battles to cut costs
>Sources have indicated that the BBC could save up to £60m per season - or around £180m in total - as a result of its U-turn, but will have to pay F1 rights-holder Bernie Ecclestone a termination fee, which could run to tens of millions of pounds
>The corporation has now decided that it can no longer afford the sport, following its decision to take £35m out of its budget as part of measures taken to close the £150m funding gap created by the so-called iPlayer loophole
and yet they spend massive amounts oh muh serious drama and keep shittly com dancing. not that i really care because of basedstream.
>>64289521
>the return of races with ad breaks
>chiles
lol no, I'll continue Acestreaming the Sky F1 broadcast thanks very much
Who will play Ron in the Hollywood biopic?
>>64290622
People watch the dramas and shitty dancing and they get some money from the oversea sales.
>>64290696
Larry David
>>64290696
himself.
ron cannit allow anyone else to portray him. he likes to be in complete control - sort of how you like to be controlled.
:^)
>>64290622
Source? Please fucking tell me this isn't true.
>>64282055
>Racing
F1 every qualy and race session, practice only when im hyped enough
WEC, MotoGP, FE when I get reminded thats its on and im in the mood
>non racing
football
cycling
>>64289851
>>64290022
It's freedom from his dad too.
>>64290873
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/itv-to-step-in-as-bbc-backs-out-of-f1/5098163.article?blocktitle=Top-Stories&contentID=2298
>>64288024
>>64290604
How do I into WRC m8s?
>>64290622
blame Dave for cutting their budget
>>64291110
he was right to do so.
>>64282386
Yes.. Mercedes already reached the peak of power output in this set of regs I believe. They cant get any better and Ferrari is almost there as well so I think we will se Honda and Renault improving a lot in relative terms.
>>64291110
but i like the home of witty banter
>>64291146
>Mercedes already reached the peak of power output in this set of regs I believe
no they haven't
>>64291164
Remember how they used all their tokens in Monza and it was barely a tenth faster than before? That is what I'm basing this argument on.
>>64291164
With the current fuel flow regs there's a good chance they're pretty damn close.
>>64291130
>only british broadcaster to produce anything worth a shit
>lets cut them
yeah what a stand-up guy
>>64291223
Exactly.. even if they still have something to improve, Mercedes' development X power-output graph is a lot steeper at this point than it for Honda and Renault.. they will definitely improve more in relative terms. If they don't they should commit sudoku already
>>64291202
the monza upgrade
1) was a testbed for their 2016 engine. they knew they had both championships in the bag so they ran it somewhat detuned to gather as much data as possible. if they bump up the engine modes and run it hotter they can find an easy 40+hp
2) was an introduction of a brand new fuel type from petronas, which would only work with the monza engine. they used the final 8 races to conduct a ton of fuel research so that petronas can start 2016 as strong as possible. even in monza the new fuel gave over 30hp more than the old engine.
these combined will create a likely 80hp boost. compare with ferrari who used sauber as their guinea pig all season and found 70-ish hp over the course of the year (probably 110 over their engine last season) with miles of room for improvement still.
and we haven't even gotten started on the turbo or the hybrid system yet
>>64291286
>70-ish hp over the course of the year (probably 110 over their engine last season)
think i mixed my numbers up there - more in the region of 50 and 85 respectively
>>64291202
>>64291286
Remember how at Monza Hamilton pulled a 25 second gap easily in 7 laps despite it being the end of the race.
Mercedes have been sandbagging
>>64291314
exactly my point. we're coming into just the third year of a revolution of engine technology in f1. there will be absolutely massive gains in total horsepower in the coming years.
>>64290696
Louie CK
>>64290696
Ronald Jenkees
What happens when all the car companies realise Formula E is going to be really useful for developing electric cars and they all flock to it?
>>64290710
>how's the engine ron?
>pretty bad. prettyyy prettyyy prettyyy bad
>yfw mclaren hire jose mourinho to turn around their fortunes, win a championship in his second year and then immediately sack him
>>64291437
Jaguar is already doing it and I wouldn't be surprised if this issue with Aston and force india is because they are thinking about it.
>>64291286
>was a testbed for their 2016 engine. they knew they had both championships in the bag so they ran it somewhat detuned to gather as much data as possible. if they bump up the engine modes and run it hotter they can find an easy 40+hp
Eh.. If they run detuned why did Rosberg engine explode? All they engines are somewhat always running detuned, Ferrari could match Mercedes in power if they wanted but the engine would get too hot and explode in a few laps.
There is a physical limit here. Assuming (and that is one big assumption for me) that they are already using the best materials and they have the best engine design there is a point where increasing power would just result in too much excess heat and therefore would require more cooling which would result in drag that would negate the engine effects in terms of race pace.
>>64291437
all the major ones are considering it already, most of the big ones (bmw, audi, toyota, etc etc) have serious plans in place for when the batteries last enough for one race without changing cars in the pitstops
>>64291602
The engine that exploded was an old spec engine.
His new spec engine had a failure in FP3 and they had to do a quick change.
He then used that one in Singapore.
>>64291357
>Implying Ron is
>Disorganized
>Fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnW35UDmWOI
>>64291739
Forgot to add he does have the autism down pat though.
>>64291602
>Eh.. If they run detuned why did Rosberg engine explode?
lol did you even pay attention to the race
rosberg wasn't running the new engine because they had a water leak when fitting it, so they took it out to be on the safe side and ran the old one with some 4,000km on it. the engine blew up because it did more mileage than it was made for.
>All they engines are somewhat always running detuned, Ferrari could match Mercedes in power if they wanted but the engine would get too hot and explode in a few laps.
you're missing the point. the new merc engine was much more detuned than the old one which was pretty close to max power at all times. if they put it up to normal race power it would be significantly quicker and have the same, if not better, reliability than the old one.
>There is a physical limit here.
and they aren't even close to reaching it
>Assuming (and that is one big assumption for me) that they are already using the best materials and they have the best engine design
the best engine design won't be reached for years. people thought the 2004 cars were f1's aerodynamic peak for example. 2008, 2013 and 2015 show that that was nowhere close.
>there is a point where increasing power would just result in too much excess heat and therefore would require more cooling which would result in drag that would negate the engine effects in terms of race pace.
not really. sacrifices made through cooling are minimal relative to the gains in other parts of the car that can be made. again, there will always be a better engine design or better manufacturing method for the v6s because of how new they are. the v8s had been around for 60 plus years which meant everything to be discovered about them pretty much already had been. the diminishing returns will still obviously be a factor but they won't hinder development much for years to come.
>>64291437
>>64291530
>>64291647
Still waiting on Tesla to dive in and wipe the floor.
>>64274814
They're talking about having the same times or faster next year even with the fuel flow limits
>>64291530
Aston are developing electric powertrains so it really wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine it
>>64291794
They don't really need to. They've already got a reputation for making the best premium electric cars and if they turned up and sucked it wouldn't look good.
Besides, most car companies are entering because they need something to kickstart EV development. That's all Tesla does erryday, I don't think they need a motorsport program really.
Would be cool though.
>>64291794
tesla wouldn't benefit from being in formula e until the regulations catch up to where their motor and battery design is at. the mid-race car swaps would hurt their brand and if they don't completely dominate the field, even in their first year, it would be a failure. they'd have to have the perfect motor for formula e to be viable for them in its current state
maybe they could involve themselves in the same way BMW do (safety car and trackside ads everywhere) but as a manufacturer it won't happen in the near future
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>>64292479
>>64292479
>>64292479
>>64258413
They obviously want to be Mercedes.
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