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News:
Heyward nearing decision
Greinke/Shark introductions today
Doyers want Cueto
Jose Canseco contemplates nuclear bombs and terraformation
Chri$ Davi$ want$ ca$h


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Royals
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good morning /mlb/
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>>64143959
That's fucking it. I'm fucking sick of your retarded, ugly-ass, stupid fucking cat. Your cat looks like it got cleaved in the face with a machete at birth, it's so fucking ugly. Every time I see that dumb cunts wide face all I feel is a pure seething hatred for you and that ball of retarded piss and fur. If I ever see you or that fucking cat in real life I'm going to kill myself right then and there on the spot because killing you wouldn't satiate the rage I feel from that dumb, stupid, ugly, piece of shit, retarded, fat-ass fucking shitcat. Fuck you, and fuck that fucking cat.
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>>64143959
Royos
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so /sp/ I found out Analheim fans on reddit celebrated 4,000 suscribers about 3 weeks ago.
A's have over 5,000, this concludes that Oakland has more fans than Analslime.

eat shit facebook stat fags
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>>64144015
> memeiners and oakland gays are nothing but redditors
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>>64143917
>Heyward nearing decision
bullshit
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go o's
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>>64144408
wew
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>>64144449
> caring about reddit
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>>64144558
I forgot every Angels fan is on Facebook
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>anglels
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Why is literally no team seemingly interested in Cespedes?

Sure he's a retarded Cuban with no plate discipline, but he's still a legit power hitter in a league that desperately needs them, and he can play all outfield positions with a cannon arm. I thought he would be a lock for $150 million or more, but seems more and more likely that everyone prefers Jason Heymeme.
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Any Royals fans having a problem now? I used to just think about the Royals when I was having sex and I'd last longer but now it has the opposite effect and I'm not sure what to do or think about now.
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>>64144820
Because Cespedes is garbage in Center, old, and has had only two good offensive years, one of which just happened to be the year before FA. He's pretty much guaranteed to stop giving a shit once he signed and, even if he did still care, he's going to rapidly decline due to age well before his contract is up.
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The Detroit Tigers
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fuck I wish greinke would give interviews everyday, his autism is something special
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>>64144921
link
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>>64144932

dbacks website
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>>64144921

Did he talk about his pokemons?
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Heyward probably going to the Cubs
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http://m.dbacks.mlb.com/ari/video/v533854583/live-dbacks-news-conference

AUTISM
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>>64144991

>we were minutes away from going to another team

Thank God he went to the DBags instead of the Jints

Sounds like he didnt really like the Doyers
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>yfw the cubs don't make the playoffs
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>heyward literally, unironically, signed with the cubs for less money because he wants to win
I can't stop laughing
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lel the reporter just asked about his anxiety / autism
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>>64145006

>Arrieta regresses
>Pitchers adjust to Schwarber and he continues to have awful defense
>Injuries plague the rest of the lineup
>Finish barely above .500
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>>64144978
I don't know how to feel about this. He isn't going back to the Cards for sure (allegedly) though.

I get the feeling it won't be the Cubes though. Like some memeteam like the Gnats or Hueston will come out of nowhere.

>just got update on my phone

Nevermind, Cubes it is.
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Report: Tommy Hanson died due to cocaine overdose
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>>64145031
>>
WE HEYWARD NOW
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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 6m6 minutes ago
Cubs are believed to have gotten heyward for less than $200M. Apparently taking less to be at addison and clark. @GDubCub 1st
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So if the Cubs and DBags meet in the postseason, how many road games will the cubs really have?
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Heyywarrrdddd to Cussbbbb
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 8m8 minutes ago
Source: Heyward to #Cubs.
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>>64145066
What do you mean?
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No one has it better than us

so happy to be a Cubs fan
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>>64145049
>arrieta regresses
>lester getting old, will decline
>lackey is an old fuck
>bryant will be exposed
>heyward is hardly any better than dexter fowler
>zobrist will decline
>kyle 'gold glove' schwarber
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Fuck the Cubs tbqh
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CUBS ARE NOW THE BEST TEAM IN BASEBALL. EAT SHIT REST OF MLB. FUCK THE CARDINALS AND FUCK THE DOYERS.
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>>64145073
Half of Phoenix is from Chicago.
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So have the Cubs won the offseason? I know we don't know the terms of Heyward's deal, but if the managed to lure both Zobrist and Heyward for less than the highest bidder, along with their win-win trade of Castro, they haven't really made a bad move this winter.
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>>64144921
I never really understood this meme until I saw his interview before game 5 of the NLDS.
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>>64145091

>Cubes fans unironically believe that this won't happen
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EAT FUCKING SHIT TARDINALS
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>tfw woke up just in time for some hot stove action
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You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy The Cardinals, not join them…bring balance to the Crown, not leave it in St Louis! You were my brother Alex, and I loved you.
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lel Heyward literally shit on the Nats they offered him way more money but he unironically thinks the Cubs are a better team and more likely to win

which is funny because the Cubs are basically the new Nats, aka an overrated meme team that everyone will pick to win every season but will spectacularly fail down the stretch

why didn't the nignog just resign with the Cards, an actual non-meme team with a history of winning?
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Heyward
Zobrist
Schwarber
RIzzo
Bryant
Soler
Montero
PItcher
Russell

Muh Dick
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>>64145129
>The rest of the mlb being this mad
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What the hell are the Cardinals doing this winter?
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>Braves trade contract year Heyward and Walden to the Cardinals for Miller and Jenkins
>Cardinals immediately give Walden an extension
>Walden breaks down a couple months into the season and probably won't even be able to pitch this year due to injuries
>Cardinals couldn't re-sign Heyward, watch him go to the Cubs
>Meanwhile, Miller has a career year with the Braves
>They trade him for a ridiculous price to Arizona
>Add Swanson, Inciarte, and Blair to Jenkins
>All from one year of Heyward and a broken down reliever
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>post tfw cubes overpay on a vastly overrated player
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>>64145112
Really? I have never heard that before, hell I even just did a quick google search.
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to what degree will arrieta regress in 2016?
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If you want to read something hillarious

https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis
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>>64145168
>@UncleCharlie50 Unfollow Heyward, he's a faggot backstabber
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>>64145151
>schwarber in the outfield
My sides
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>>64145154

>Ottoman Empire
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>>64145155
Nothing

They are literally doing fucking nothing

Source: I'm a Cardinals fan
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>>64145159
Yeah a guy who's average 5.2 WAR over the last 4 seasons and is just entering his prime is overrated. Stay delusional faggot
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>>64145168
>https://twitter.com/BestFansStLouis
>Heyward is a trader
>trader
>trader

Missouri public schools, ladies and gentlemen.
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Daily reminder that DG is a pedo
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>Zachary @zachEdwards10
>Heyward is a trader
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>>64145190

This is why you don't do meth, kids.
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>>64145182

>WAR
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>>64145190
>US public schools, ladies and gentlemen.
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>>64145159
He took less than $200mil according to Heyman

https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/675377910409220096
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>>64143917
I wonder what Belcher said to Park
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>>64145200
>being this uneducated
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>>64145156
Thank you based barves, you are my greatest ally.
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>>64145190
It's a meme at this point. I think it started when Youkilis signed with the Yankees a few years ago.
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>@JasonHeyward Please change your profile pic, fuck face.
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>>64145180
Has it frustrated you? What were you expecting from them and where do they go now?
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So are the DBacks last year's Padres?
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>>64145190
Hey you don't know he might be an avid trader of goods
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>Waino is Bueno @Barneyrme 10m10 minutes ago
>fuckin twat ! fuck off judas heyward
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>>64145182
>muh war
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>>64145180
How are you not used to this by now? The Cardinals don't spend money and yet all you do is win.

If I was a cardinals fan, I would be pic related.
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>>64145254
Yes, but now with more autism!
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>>64145175
He'll play DH once Manfred and the boys shake things up at the CBA talks
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>>64145254
No, they're the Marlins from a couple years back. Expect a July firesale.
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At least Heyward didn't go to the gnats.
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>>64145214

>WAR
>Doesn't even have a universal calculation
>bWAR completely overrates defense
>fWAR overrates baserunning
>Can't project it well
>Can't build teams based on it
>People hold it on a be all pedestal anyway
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>>64145254
No. The Padres were shit and tried to build a contender in one offseason. The Dbags had a great core of young, talented hitters and fielders already and just needed some pitching, which they've gotten.
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FUCK THE CARDINALS
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>>64145266
>Sabermetrics are stupid
>they aren't an educated measurement of a players success utilizing multiple years of data
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64145288
Nice digits.

>Nats
Ravaged by injuries and BDSM choke-play
>Memeiners
Shit
>Anglels
Shit
>Ayys
Lel
>Red Sox
Too many aces, it was a house of cards from the start.
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>>64145288
>>64145288
Except multiple teams build on advanced stats. Especially the best teams in the league year in and year our. All those teams had significant injuries that hurt their overall team.
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WE SAID IT ALL ALONG

2016 CUBS WS

YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE US AND NOW YOU'LL PAY FOR IT
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The gints are gonna sign meme upton and its gonna be bad
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wOBA is the GOAT stat.

Eat my ass
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wOBA is the GOAT stat.

Eat my ass
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>>64145238
It can be a bit frustrating even though the cards have been doing well without throwing money all over the place. I was really hopeful they'd get Heyward but deep down I knew that he was leaving. I try not to play GM too much because I always get let down

>>64145273
I am used to it but a man can dream
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>>64145320
wOBA is a god tier stat along with wRC+
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>>64145266
>I don't understand how they calculate this statistic, so I think it's stupid.


Putting all your faith in war is retarded, but these posts are worse.
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>>64145311

I said WAR was useless, not all advanced metrics.
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>>64145304
>trying to validate an enormous contract with just one stat
>muh war
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>>64145320
>not LD%
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>>64145310
Hello Reddit.
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MY

DICK

IS

DIAMONDS
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ITT: salty gnats and analslime fans that didn't get heyward.

Congrats cubes I hope you fucking win next year.
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>yfw the Cubs trade Soler to Cleveland for Carrasco and then sign Gordon away from the Cardinals
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>>64145304
>>64145304
OH REALLY WELL HOW MANY RINGS HAS BILLY BEANE WON WITH MUH SABERMETRICS AND MUH WAR? NONE? I THOUGHT SO

CHECK AND MATE ATHEISTS.

only thing that matters is clutch and that is why derek jeter is the best player of all time
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so this is WAR, huh
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>>64145333
Well wRC+ literally comes from wOBA.
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>>64145361
Baitobaitotbhfam
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>taking less money just so you dont have to play for the expos

my fucking sides
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>>64145166

@JonHeymanCBS 11m11 minutes ago
Early guesstimate on jake arrieta 2016 wins: 28
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>it's a meme stats thread
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>>64145357

Barves fan here.

The Cards not keeping Heyward makes the trade sending him there feel all the better, especially after what they got from trading Miller.
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>>64145385
>wins

I thought we all were passed this
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>Giants FO is going to shop the bargain bin again and settle for Fowler
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>>64145337
WAR is a good measurement of value. It's not the only stat they used to sign him retard. He's also the best defensive RF in baseball and has elite K rates and BB rates. Plus his contact rate is terrific.
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Washington Nationals @Nationals
The #Nats have agreed to terms with LHP Oliver Pérez:

Just give the man his ring already.

>>64145361
He practically won it for Boston in 04
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>>64145280
Nice.

I'm excited for this to blow up real good.

I'm a Dodger fan living in Arizona and all these DBag fans are fucking annoying. I can't wait for them to be put in their place
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>>64145358
That would be amazing
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>>64145399
WHERE'S
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The only stat that matters is the number of world series rings since the turn of the 20.1 th century
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>>64145385
>jon gayman
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>>64145372
I know that's why it's fucking awesome.
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Jaysfans ready to be irrelevant next year? Shapiro and Atkins have told every free agent that Toronto isnt a buyer and won't be for the next decade. Dollar is tanking and a recession is coming. Rogers might not own the team in ten years.

Forget the playoffs. Rebuilding starts in 2017. Hope you enjoyed AA's wild ride because now its the Shapiro's spinning coffeecup ride of mediocrity.
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@gorgan_miffin 16m16 minutes ago
Fuck you Jason Heyward. I hope you break your jaw in Chicago.
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At least my based Jason is on a team I respect now. Fuck the Cardinals, love a Braves fan
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>>64145168
>>64145190
>Heyward turns down the Cardinals, who offered more than the Cubs
>The Good Beard Haver @HarrisNye
>"Smh Jason heyward another classless trader who values money over winning"
>112 RTs and 47 likes
>the shitty of shit louis
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This is why the Cubs are a meme and will never be at the Cards level. Shit will blow up soon and the GM will jump ship again like he did with the Red Sux.
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>dfw the Cubs will likely win the WS in your lifetime
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Where did this best fans maymay come from?
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Yeah that trade worked out well for the Braves. I think Swanson is gonna be a good player for the Braves. Won't be better then Simmons defensively but he will be a solid defender and provide actual offensive value. The Braves fleeced the DBacks in that deal considering the fact that Miller is a #3 at best.
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>>64145461
Mfw you die in ur sleep thus proving there is a god
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>>64145461

Their rotation is older than dirt and their lineup gets mowed down by good rotations.
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>>64145463
IDK that twitter has been around for a couple years though
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desu the cubs right now will probably be about as good as last year, which obviously isn't bad

>>64145397
he's a great right fielder, but will he really be that far above average as a center fielder where he'll play, I doubt it. I honestly don't see him as much of an improvement over fowler, not on the offensive side either

Coghlan was also great in the outfield last year for the cubs, so you can't really expect an improvement from coghlan/schwarber last season with a full season schwarber now, if at all. Biggest room for improvement on the team is Soler if he plays like its the playoffs against the cardinals

as for the infield, bryant will be a little worse if anything, russell and bryant will probably be steady, and zobrist I can't see as much of an improvement over castro/baez, especially with zobrists big defensive decline

arrieta will definitely regress significantly, lester will be worse if anything, can't expect much from lackey over guys like hammel and hendriks
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>>64145519
*russell and rizzo
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>Justin @ChefJustln 3m3 minutes ago
>@JasonHeyward fuck you trader! Fucking faggot!

>Chris Wagner @anotherwagner 1m1 minute ago
>@JasonHeyward you are dead to me, not for leaving but for going to the GOD DAMN FAGGOT GOAT FUCKING @Cubs. I say thanks but wish you no luck

>Chip210 @Chip_210 28m28 minutes ago
>@CBearsbulls @JasonHeyward not mad i said celebrate being a fag. a northside douchebag. eat a dick

>Dep @Sheriff_Deputy0 26m26 minutes ago
>@JasonHeyward change your profile picture you fag, nobody in the cardinal fan base likes your idiot self.You used the cards.

>The assblast of the city of St. Louie
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>yfw Shapiro trades EE, Donaldson, Bautista and Stroman for shit prospects by July
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>>64145155

They realized they cant beat the cubs and now they are going to wait 5 seasons plus to be relevant again. Smart move desu
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>>64145406
MY
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the cardinal assmad on twitter is tremendous
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>>64145569
literally astronomical levels of butthurt
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>Gordon Wittenmyer @GDubCub
>Heyward deal less than $185m. Believed to be eight years.

just pee on my hair baka senpai
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How many wins can we expect from the Cubes? Assuming they trade Soler and acquire someone like Tyson Ross, I expect a few games above or under a 100 wins next year, as long as the young guys play well and Arrieta isn't a fluke
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>>64145590
Fucking kidding me
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https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/3weujc/best_fans_in_baseball/

assmad STL fans downboating posts exposing them for the scum they are
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>>64145590

>Nats offer over $200 million
>Heyward goes to the Cubs instead for over $15 million less
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>>64145608
>reddit
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>>64145432
Hello new jays fan. How are you doing? Are you enjoying your first offseason?
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>>64145519
You're forgetting that CF in wrigley is one of the smallest in baseball. He projects to be an above average CF. I'm also not convinced that is where he plays. They still may trade Soler. Heyward is a huge improvement over Fowler strictly because of his contact skills. That's something the Cubs lineup desperately needs. They have enough power between Bryant, Rizzo, Schwarber, Baez and Russell.

Bryant is only going to improve. He'll probably be about what he was this year defensively. Russell is only going to get better and Zobrist should be steady as he ages. After Zobrist came back from his DL stint he was much better.

Arrieta will likely regress but he's still an ace and arguably the second best pitcher in baseball behind Kershaw. I'm not sure a lot of people understand just how good he is. Lester will be steady. He's been consistent his entire career. Will see what happens with Lackey and Hammel but Hendricks was excellent last year. He's a great BOR pitcher.
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>tfw no Trout/Heyward outfield
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>>64145623
>not shitposting with ur reddit bros

smdhfamtbhjoe
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>>64145615

>the federal district of Washington
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>>64145598
Early estimate is 152
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>>64145627
how is bryant "only going to improve"?

most rookies, especially a guy like bryant who strikes out a lot, regress hard in their sophomore season as the league's pitchers adjust to their meme swings.

best you can hope for is league average 3B play from him
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>>64145627

Heyward is a career .268 hitter senpai
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Gordon Wittenmyer @GDubCub 6m6 minutes ago
Heyward deal less than $185m. Believed to be eight years.
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>>64145627
>Arrieta
>arguably the second best pitcher in baseball behind Kershaw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL6fw1n2PHI
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>>64145673
Yeah its obviously Bumgarner.
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>>64145634
2021 NY Yanks outfield:

LF: Jayson Heyward after his opt out
CF: Mike Trout (signed 2020)
RF: Bryce Harper (signed 2019)

*DH: Aaron Judge
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>>64145653
Yes, 152 wins is definitely within the realm of possibility
>implying Arrieta won't strike out every batter he faces, pitching every game and leading the cubes to a glorious 162-0 season
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>clay jarrell @cgjcards 48m48 minutes ago
>@JasonHeyward I hope someone throws it at your face again you greedy piece of shit.

>W.t.beer @treybeer23 46m46 minutes ago
>@JasonHeyward your a piece of shit . I hope you fail.

>Seth Patterson @patterson_seth 38m38 minutes ago
>For signing with the Cubs Jason Heyward I hope you get Lou Gehrigs

>Mike Fagan @ItsMikeFagan 35m35 minutes ago
>I hope Jason Heyward breaks his legs every fucking spring training.

>DT @Dtaylor1121 34m34 minutes ago
>@JasonHeyward well congrats you greedy bastard. Hope you suck in Chicago. You went from pimp daddy to piece of shit in seconds #FuckTheCubs

>Best fans in baseball
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>>64145688
Wow I don't recall jays fans being THIS ass blasted when price went to Boston.
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>Heyward signs with the Cubs
>Walden ded
>Cardinals have already reached the maximum value they can get from that trade
>mfw that trade continues to pay off for the Braves and will for years to come
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>>64145658
.315 Career at wrigley
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Come, my brothers in Cubdom, join me in revelry; we must celebrate in the tears of Tardinal fans everywhere.
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>>64145658
Batting average is incredibly overrated. His career contact percentage is 80%
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>>64145683
Bumgarner is 3 behind Arrieta and Kershaw
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>>64145717
We are just getting them back for the JD Drew for Wainright trade
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>>64145744
>Arrieta has one good season
>2nd best in the league
Arrieta isn't even in the top 5 m8.
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>>64145615
Cusb probably offered more years... duh
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>Ross Piercy @PiercyRoss 47m47 minutes ago
>Heyward is a FAG

>trent felton @_TFelt 44m44 minutes ago
>heyward is a fag
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>>64145744
If anything he should be 1b to kershaw given hes extremely reliable in the regular season and the current day GOAT postseason pitcher
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>>64145765
Nah man you didn't watch every game of his this year like I did. He's legit that good. That second half dominance wasn't a fluke. He got a lot of positive variance but that's how good his stuff is. he's gonna regress but he will be a mid 2 era pitcher.
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>>64145768
Cubs offer is reportedly ~$185 million, Nationals over 200 million
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>>64145783
I believe you. I believe he's an ace and I believe he's better than 95%. The only problem is you don't get called the best after 1 season. Greinke, Kershaw, madbum, Price, Hernandez are much better and have been consistent for years.

>inb4 bandwagon since August
I'm not trying to insult you it's just silly to label him as such.
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>>64145814
I've been a Cubs fan my entire life. 3 generations of Cub fans in my family.

I disagree. I use more of the eyetest though when it comes to pitchers.
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>>64145814

I have to agree with you, I hope he doesnt fuck up next year tho
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>Colby Perry @freshoutdawee 44m44 minutes ago
>@JasonHeyward change your god damn picture and header cock sucker

>Joel Birch @joelbirch28 11m11 minutes ago
>@JasonHeyward i hope u and @JohnLackey get injured #CardinalsNation

>jeremy dee @ChitownNSession 22m22 minutes ago
>@JasonHeyward fuck you..fuck your family,fuck your ugly girl..your a backstabbing greedy traitor bitch..enjoy bein in that toliet you pussy.

>Jesse Emery @JuicyJ2Hi 15m15 minutes ago
>Fuck the Cubs. @JasonHeyward you dirty bastard! Go suck up Lackey while your there pal

>Best fans in baseball
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>>64145391
All because Oscar Tavares had to go kill himself...
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>J @jaschonwobbins 3m3 minutes ago
>Jason heyward is the definition of a blue gummed coon and I hope he never wins a ring

This one is pretty good lol
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>>64145871
Can we build a perimeter around STL and enact economic sanctions against imports/exports to the area? sounds like a good plan to me
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>>64145893
>blue gummed coon

Im pretty racist but that's a new one to me.
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>Be Braves fan
>love Heyward
>hated to see him go to least favorite team
>still liked him as a player
>see Cardinals fans now raging at him
They don't deserve you based Heyward
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>all that hair DG wont get to pee in
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>>64145765
Arrietta has had 2 good seasons
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>>64145933
Kek
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>>64145978
Arrieta has had 1 good season, and one REALLY good season
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>>64145893
>blue gummed coon

jej
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>>64146003
so thats 2 good seasons
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>>64146010
lel
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>>64146010
I don't think you get just how different of a pitcher he is with the Cubs. He completely changed his mechanics after he left Baltimore and went back to just throwing instead of focusing on how he threw.
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>>64146046
>went back to just throwing instead of focusing on how he threw
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>>64146037
You cardinals fans are fucking ruthless holy shit lol
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>>64146075
I'm not even memeing. That's literally what he does. He's said it in multiple interviews.
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Is there a worse fan base in sports than the St. Louis Cardinals?
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>>64146100
This one gets points for being creative though.
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>>64146133
The LA based teams and the Florida based teams are right there.
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>Cardinal fans mad at a guy who only played one season for them
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>>64146133
That "city" deserves to lose their NFL team.
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>>64146119
>I'm just gonna throw the ball and hope it's a strike
that's how I used to pitch, but then again I was an outfielder
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>>64146133
Yankees are pretty close
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>Brendan Cogs @CogsBleedsBlue 13m13 minutes ago
>Fuck @JasonHeyward, you piece of shit. You and @JohnLackey can go suck the goat's dick like the rest of Chicago for another century.

>CogBleedsBlue
>BleedsBlue

I like this one though
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>>64146133

Cardinals fans actually go to their games so yes, there are worse fans.
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The Angels will pay more for Josh Hamilton to play for the Rangers next year ($24 mil) than the Cubs will for Heyward to play for them.
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Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 7m7 minutes ago
Source: Heyward with #Cubs is eight years, $184M.
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>>64146182
>CogBleedsBlue
>BleedsBlue

I have a feeling hes a St. Louis Blues fan.
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>>64146165
When the ball comes out of his hand apparently it looks like it's coming from the SS position. He's like a RH version of Sale in terms of release point.
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Is St. Louis the shittiest city in the nation?
Is that why you Cardtards have all this impotent microdick rage?
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>nast
lol
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>>64146206
he's worth every centavo ese
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>Peter Gammons@pgammo
>Jayson Heyard is 8 years, $184M with two opt-outs.

GEE JAYSON
HOW COME YOUR MOM LETS YOU HAVE TWO (2) OPT-OUTS?
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>>64145893
>blue-gummed coon

All this Methinal assmad has made my fucking day.
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>>64146217
Makes sense. That's still funny though.
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>>64146179
kek
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lel Heyward has two separate opt out clauses in the contract.

Hes totally leaving for the Yankees if they don't win him a ring, which they won't because cursed.
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>>64146206
So CC Sabathia and Josh Hamilton walk into a bar...
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>>64146133
Nah. People are just cherrypicking the racist shitbags on social media. I'm a Cardinals fan, I don't blame Heyward or the Cubs. I blame the Cardinals FO. Team is petrified to spend money on ANY good free agent.

Now watch the Cardinals end up overpaying for the likes of Upton, Gordon, or shipping numerous guys for CarGo.
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>>64146100
>blue gummed coon
Methinals fans
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>>64145684
MUH DICK
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>>64146347
Signing gordon would actually be a pretty smart move. Better defensively than heyward and a fairly good contact hitter.
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>>64146333
Even if he leaves the Cubs farm is deep enough to replace him. Especially in OF prospects. We could also just sign Harper too in 3 years.
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>>64146561
It's really close between Gordon and Heyward.
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>Corey Fritz @sho_titz_4fritz 13m13 minutes ago St John, MO
>Well... I guess you can throw Heyward in the list of players I hope get hurt during next season. #sorrynotsorry

>NAS @NAS_____ 49m49 minutes ago Boston, MA
>@Yung_Messiah RT @ethancarter_23: @UncleCharlie50 Unfollow Heyward, he's a faggot backstabber
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>>64146670
>Implying the cusb can compete with the 10 year/$500 million contract the Yankees are going to offer a player that has said he want to play for the Yankees before
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>>64146701
But what about Gordon and Heyward vs. Gordon Hayward?
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>>64146763
Winning a championship with the cusb will be too enticing for him to leave
They'll have Worlds Eries win within threebyears
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>>64146763
Yeah they will be able to compete with them. I do expect him to end up on the Yankees though. 2019 is when the Cubs new TV deal kicks in.
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>23 Million a year for a guy who hits 13 HRs and 60 RBIs

Lol
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>>64146854
>HR's and RBI's are the only thing that makes a baseball player good
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>>64146869
>twenty three million
>for thirteen homeruns and sixty runs batted in
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Heyward was actually willing to take less to sign with the Cubs because he wanted to be reunited with former teammate Tommy La Stella
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>>64146854
what is this, 1990?
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Would it be correct to say that its an attractive prospect for players to be able to contribute to winning a WS for the Cubs after 100+ years of failure?
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>>64145626
>implying depressed melodramatics isnt a longtime Jays tradition since '94

Wilner, Blair, pls stop posting on /sp/. I've seen enough shit Jays seasons to know what's coming. Don't piss on me like I'm DG and tell me it's raining, Rogers. Gather your angry pepes now before opening day.
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>>64146905
>23 Million
>for one of the top 15 players in baseball

Stay assblasted
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>>64145686
>then get swept in the the nlds
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>>64145684
>no Dean "The Triple Crown Machine" Anna
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>the white sox are sinking further and further into irrelevancy
>near worst attendance
>worst tv viewership
>they're only going to get worse
>montreal sox soon
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>>64146958
VIKING
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>>64146938
>23 million for a man who hits roughly 13 Runs by hitting it over the outfield boundaries and 16 Runs from getting a hit that drives in a player that had currently been standing on a base prior to the hit

Lol
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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 2m2 minutes ago
greinke has agreed to donate 1 pct of yearly salary to dbacks charity

autism awareness, no doubt
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>>64146926
The times have changed my friend. We are now a team that holds high hopes only to see them crushed.
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>>64146938
>heyward
>top 15

Lel calm down their cubby
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>>64146938
>top 15
PFFFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>64146960
They're not gonna move
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>>64146978
He also gets 4 premium season ticket seats. Two at the teams cost and 2 at Grienke's cost
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>>64146978
:3
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>>64146981
That was 2013 senpai, 2016 is the year of beercan showers and statue defacements
>>
MIS LADOS MIS AMIGOS

DONDE ESTAN MIS LADOS
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>>64146960
Who?
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>>64146993
>>64147000
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>rags
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>>64147034
he probably thinks the acct RTs those posts in earnest
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>>64146978
>1 pct of yearly salary
Whats that?
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>>64146976

>the statistic of RBI invoked in 2015

this guy specifically seeks out a baseball thread on a anime website to post about baseball, so he clearly cares about it, and yet he's so dumb that he brings up RBI

sorry life you live m8
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>>64147054

interesting that there aren't any pitchers in that list my man.... where did they go???
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>>64147054
Ayy lmao
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>>64147103
Why would you ever include them together. Fucking retard
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>>64147054
Lol
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>>64147055
lmao look at this fuckin monkey
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>>64147081
>australian education
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past 5 years
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>>64147103
That's the position player list. Pitchers are a separate entity since they only pitch once every 5 days. You can't judge them together.

>>64147107
Nice. Resorting to memeing because you can't prove me wrong.
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>>64147137
Lol
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>zobrist signs for less money
>heyward signs for less money

how does feo keep getting away with it
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>>64147054
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>>64147137
BTFO
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>>64147149
back to facebook faggot
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>>64147139
Not the other guy but I was agreeing with you senpai, you got em bruh
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should I make a twitter account and badmouth Zobrist lids?
He used the A's desu
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>>64147181
Ahhh ok. I take back my insult towards you then.
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>>64147186
>juggalon9ne

MIS LADOS
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>>64147156
He's theo epstien. And players are seeing what he's built and want in
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>>64145490
this.
>great young bats
>one of the best offensive teams in the game
>get swept by the mets and their young arms
>only one way to solve the problem
>buy more bats
>mfw
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why does josh hamilton have such garbage plate discipline
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>>64147280
Their going to add another young pitcher this offseason and their bats are only going to get better with experience.
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>>64145334
But war, war never changes.
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>>64146978
dont forget, a minority stake for a Chipotle franchise
>muh guacamole
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>>64147135
I cbf looking up his yearly salary breakdown
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>>64147034
>Getting called out by Rams fans

I can't even
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>>64147156
>shit franchise gets goat gm
>dodgers get that flukey jew Friedman

Why.
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>winter meetings essentially over
>team still has holes
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>>64146561
Yeah, I know Gordon is really good, but he's older. Could have had Heyward during his prime. I always go off the deep end year after year when the Cardinals don't really sign anybody, then they go out and win 90 games.

They however really do need help this season. Holliday is getting older, and gone soon. It would be stupid to not pick up Gordon, CarGo or Upton right now. And get some more pitching other than Jonathan Broxton....
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>>64147280
They went out and got OPB to compliment the power they already had a ton of and to make their offense more consistent
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>>64147345
how can a team with multiple bumgarners have holes? he's a one man team
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>>64147396
mate before the cespedes trade, they were grinding out gutwrenching 1-0, 2-1 games. It was basically, if they gave up 3 or more runs, they lost.
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>>64147365
To be fair Boston fucked you guys by throwing an absurd amount of money at David Price. It was almost certain he was headed to St Louis and then Boston offers him 30 more.
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>>64145460
>Being mad at Boston
stay c u c k e d, shit louis.
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>>64147116
>>64147139

war is calculated 57/43, pitchers split the 43% they're responsible for, batters split the 57% they're responsible for. there are more batters than pitchers by a little bit. SO they're directly comparable if you chop off a few sig figs. Maybe just take the ones place and compare. but ill be damned if kershaw isn't a top 15 player in baseball.
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>>64147462
I think the AAV was around the same? Cardinals offered 6/190. Boston was 7/217. Or it could have been opt out years. It also could have been more opt out years for Heyward in the Cubs deal. I'm not sure.

But it's just frustrating seeing the Cardinals making a ton of money, and having that new TV contract that kicks in, and they always get beaten out in good free agents.

I just hope they do something.
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>>64147507
>Nast
>St. Louis Keknals
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>>64147507
Absolutely c-u-c-k-e-d
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>>64147516
Why aren't you guys looking at Chris Davis? Don't you need a legit 1B?
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>>64147559
It's not the cardinal way or some elitist bullshit
>>
Are the Red Sox legit World Series contenders this year bros?
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>>64147584
Yes. They will win the AL east.
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>>64147559
>mfw they give him $200M only for him to turn into Adam Dunn
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>>64147559
Chris Davis won't hit nearly as many homeruns at Busch compared to Camden and all the parks in the AL East. He would obviously crush on the road against the NL Central, lots of homerun parks in that division.

I would not be surprised if they did sign Davis, but I would be disappointed in that decision. Besides, Boras is asking for 8/200mm. Cardinals are not that retarded.

Only guys worth looking into at this point is Gordon, Upton, trading for CarGo, and then going after Cueto or Leake. The rotation is looking really weak with injury concerns for Martinez, Garcia, and Wacha. Wainwright will probably be fine.
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>>64147584
tbqhwy Joe, that rotation has 6 aces now. Or did they trade away Joe "2015 AL Cy Young Award Winner" Kelly?
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>>64147668
They're gonna get crushed by the Orioles rotation, desu, it's fucking air tight
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>>64147584
Red sox fan here, not really. They're playoff contenders for sure, given that the two biggest things that were responsible for their issues last year have been cleaned up (partially)

But there's tons of other probelms that prevents them from being WS contenders.

1. Hanley Ramirez and Pablo sandoval

These two fucking miserable fatshits are on the team, and because of their expense, henry will force John to play them

Im still praying dave trades one of them before pitchers report, but chances are extremely slim

2. Pitching depth

Ya, we have an ACE and a bullpen now

But we severely lack quality depth. Nobody on the team past Price is durable, despite Johns comments the other day that he expects 200 IP out of CLAY FUCKING BUTTHOLES

Weneed a deeper rotation

3. Price isnt reliable in the post season

This one's self explanatory

4. Still some questions about players like JBJ and Rusney

They had a greatish end of the year, but their track record is against them. For all of our luck, they could completely fall apart and bust in the coming years

In all honesty, this is a pretty big gamble by DD, but im on board with it

And then theres a whole bunch of other issues as to why they arent WS contenders tbqh with you Joe, just trying to be realistic Joe
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>>64147507
>getting kekolded this hard

I don't know who to laugh at more.
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>>64147703

Hanley is great bat tho, right? Is he still playing left field this year?

Yeah, true. We only have one legit pitcher (no real "2" pitcher)plus Clay will be great for like 3 weeks, garbage for the rest and injured for the majority

It's so weird Price in the postseason. I'm still willing to believe he can fix

Yeah, hopefully JBJ keeps up
>>
>>64146921
I would say so
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>>64147703
Did you break Hanley's hand that one time we were playing you guys?
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>>64146960
How they are going to move one of the oldest teams in the league? That'd be retarded
>>
Apparently, Heyward might have gone with the Cubs because of the opt-outs.

Not surprising really.
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>>64147747
>>64147767
For the month of April, Hanley was worth his defensive woes

After that injury in which he needlessly and dramatically crashed into the wall like a fucking idiot, he was one of the worst bats in the offensive lineup

From the time be got back in May until mid August where they started benching him for "injury" he batted close to .214

If not for Napoli batting less than .200 in that same timespan, he would have been the worst bat on the team

And i have a feeling his batting woes were because he checked out after he started sucking, not actually because of the injury

I want him off the team tbqh with you Joe

Reeeee
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>>64147054
>Bryant is there
>not rizzo
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>>64147811
I was talking about that one time he got hit in the hand by a line drive while he was running to 2nd. IIRC he was sent to the DL but I didn't pay attention to what happened after.
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>>64147624
The pirates should look at chris Davis
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who /nobullpen/ here?
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>>64147624
Idk Chris Davis has a lot of power. He obviously wouldn't be hitting 50 HR in St Louis but you're looking at 35 to 40 a year.
>>
Why don't we hear more about the AL West?

On average, they are the largest market division

2. Angels (Los Angeles)
5. Rangers (Dallas-Fort Worth)
6. Athletics (San Francisco)
8. Astros (Houston)
13. Mariners (Seattle)
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>>64147894
Who /nothingButBullpen/ here?
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>>64147894
we'll give you brian matusz for nelson cruz
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>>64147584
Red Sox fan here.

They'll be the first team in MLB history to go 162-0 and get swept in the ALDS. I'm okay with this though.
>>
>>64146960
Only a Cubs world series win would make me happier as far as baseball is concerned.
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>>64147913
Is there a more irrelevant collection of teams than the AL West?

Jesus.
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>>64147510
Pitchers and hitters are judged completely differently. You can't really compare guys that are playing everyday and guys that aren't. It doesn't take away the fact that pitchers are great at what they do just that it's not fair to compare them to hitters.
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>>64147894
Our BP is basically
Benoit
Furbush
Zych
Scribner
Nuno
and the rest of the shitters will fight it out in ST. Dipoto said he'll make one more FA acquisition for the BP though
>>
>>64147938
Just like the Patriots
>>
>i just learned that crawford was on the cards
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>>64147844
Rizzo is at 16 though.
>>
>>64147844
Offense is less valuable at 1st than 3rd.
>>
>yfw Barry is allowed to play a game for the Marlels in order to extend his HoF eligibility
>yfw he hits a dinger
>yfw he teaches Stanton to hit 80
>>
@JonHeymanCBS 20m20 minutes ago
Cardinals have great fans. But some of these comments on twitter about heyward are WAY over the top. perspective, people

Okay, who showed him Baseball's Best Fans?
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>>64147888
No he was fine. le 15 day dl stint face
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>>64148063

Marlins are also moving in their fences 10-15 feet this year. 50-60 dingers from a healthy Stanton is not out of the question.
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>>64148063
>teaches Stanton to hit 80
>Gives Stanton his mysterious creams
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>>64148095
Wonder if he saw the one of the butthurt fan who burned his Heyward jersey.
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Would the Cubs winning the Eries be the biggest shitstorm moment on /sp/?
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>>64148117
Bruh, moving the fences it won't help Stanton when he hits 450-500 foot dingers. baka familia
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Does Cespedes make sense for the Angels? Or they should pursue Daniel Murphy or someone else? The Angels need another big hitter to complement Trout and Pujols.
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>>64148127

>He thinks Bonds was great because of roids
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Most irrelevant CA team: A's or Padres?
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>>64148187

Padres. A's at least have at least had success in the past.
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>>64147894
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>>64148169
For the money he'll command? I dunno. Do you think Josh Hamilton is available? How much is he getting paid these days?
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>Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 1m1 minute ago
>#Cubs roster overachieved in many ways this year. Theo, who is wise, knew same players may not repeat that in '16. You see the result.

Thoughts?
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1. Jason Heyward CF or OF
2. Ben Zobrist, 2B or UT
3. Kris Bryant, 3B or OF
4. Anthony Rizzo, 1B
5. Jorge Soler, RF
6. Kyle Schwarber, LF or C
7. Addison Russell, SS or 2B
8. Miguel Montero, C
9. Pitcher
If pitcher bats 8th, then Montero bats 7th and Russell 9th

BN: Javier Baez SS/2B/3B
BN: Tommy La Stella 2B/3B
BN: Chris Coghlan LF/2B
BN: David Ross C
BN: Matt Szczur OF / Arismendy Alcantara UT /Brendan Ryan SS/2B

1. Jake Arrieta
2. Jon Lester
3. John Lackey
4. Kyle Hendricks
5. Jason Hammel

CL: Hector Rondon
RP: Pedro Strop
RP: Justin Grimm
RP: Adam Warren
RP: Trevor Cahill
RP: Travis Wood
RP: Neil Ramirez / Clayton Richard / Rex Brothers / Zac Rosscup / Carl Edwards Jr.
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>>64147913
Houston has a larger market than dallas home boy
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>>64148235
Big, if true
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Let's play "Where are they now? Who the fuck would want them?
I'll start
>Mat Latos
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>>64148181
>still used them
If you used them you used them, he should be disqualified from the HoF for that reason, it's also why I don't consider him the HR king. Hank Aaron is still the king.
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>>64148244
Neil Ramirez being healthy this year could be huge for the bullpen. When he's throwing in the mid 90's with his slider he's lights out. He started to look like himself again at the end of the year.
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>>64148197
>implying it takes only 26 outs and two strikes to win a major league baseball game

I don't think so, Hector.
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>yfw the 2016 Cubs become the 2015 Nats
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>>64148331
The Cubs actually won a playoff series though
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>>64148197
Tiki and DG need to get together and discuss baseball for all of us to watch. If things go well, they can even piss in each others' hair afterwards.
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>>64148197

>yfw they win the first three, then one strike away happens 4 times in a row
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>>64148261
wasnt he with the marlins last year
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> age
> favorite baseball team
> presidential candidate you support


19 years old

New York Mets

Donald Trump
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JUST
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>>64148406
delete this post
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Is Chris Davis going to become Josh Hamilton 2.0?
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>>64148406
>19
>Braves
>probably not gonna vote because they all are terrible fucking choices
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>>64148244

More than anything, I have NEVER seen as much versatility on any team.

1. Heyward can absolutely play all three OF spots
2. Zobrist can play every position except catcher and pitcher (bullshit, he just hasn't tried)
3. Kris Bryant is competent as fuck at 3B, LF, and is even a back-up 1B.
4. Schwarber can "play" LF or C. Doesn't matter. He's gonna hit.
5. Russell can play the whole goddamn infield incredibly well.

I feel pretty bad for Baez. The guy is too talented to sit on the bench. Cubs need to trade him for an elite reliever. The bench is pretty solid already. La Stella? Coghlan? Ryan? They all play multiple positions competently. Old Man Ross is just Gandalf. Szczur is a very good CF with pinch-running ability. Alcantara CAN be Zobrist 2.0, but probably won't. Doesn't hurt to try.

Unreal tbqfh.
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>>64148406
398

Hiroshima Toyo Catp

El Chapo
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>>64148416

I'll delete your mum's pussy with muh dik.
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>>64148402
>this level of Texass delusion
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>>64148431
*Carp
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>>64148406
20
Mariners
Vermin Supreme
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The Cubs might actually win the World Series next season

Just one more decent or above average pitcher
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>>64148406
21
Baltimore
Gary Johnson
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>>64148292

Another really interesting thing is that, since the Cubs' position players are ridiculously versatile, they can probably always afford to carry an extra pitcher over a bench player. How awesome is that?
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>>64148453
>>64148402

Bit early to be shitposting about the WS, don't you think?
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>>64148429
>Cubs need to trade him for an elite reliever
we're gonna have 4 competent revilers in AAA as it is
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>>64148406

22

Cubs

Luis Gutierrez :^)
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>>64148406
20
Yankees
Probably Gary Johnson, I don't think he's even announced a run yet

Otherwise I'm just going to write myself in as a candidate

This country is going to continue being mediocre for another 20-30 years, doesn't really matter which red or blue jackass gets voted in

*adjusts fedora*
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JILL STEIN
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>$184 million for a guy who averages 19 HRs and 68 RBIs with a .268 average and .350 OBP
>b-but muh WAR
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>>64148476

Not competent enough. Baez is too valuable and teams have been offering multiple major league pieces for him. Whoever offers an elite RP should get him.

I also don't want to see Baez wasted away on the bench. Guys like Mike Fontenot got screwed out of decent careers because they had to sit on the bench for so long. It's like a freshly baked cookie: you can wait a while to eat it but, if you wait too long, it just gets hard, you can't make it soft anymore, and it goes into the trash.
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>>64148479
>Rangers 2016 WS Champs

Just like that all-Texass ALCS?
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>>64148530
fuck off gramps
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>>64147894
>tfw have zero idea how the bullpen will be every year
>tfw it's always shit
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>>64148530
>muh argumentative fallacies
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>>64148479

Where have you been, fuckboy?

>>64148516

CHRISTINE O'DONNELL
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>>64148531
>Mike Fontenot
>Screwed

u wot m8
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>>64148569
>burgerclappers
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>>64148479
Choo and the bullpen were in the ALDS when they got reverse swept and gave up the lead with errors
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>>64148531
If you trade Baez you need to trade him for a starter

Bullpen is strong enough
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lets say you were a pitcher for the 2011 texas rangers

you were one pitch away from winning the World Series

what would you do
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>>64148477
>Luis Gutierrez

That traitor needs to nose dive on to the Dan Ryan.

>all this talk of trading Soler

Better get a righty-mashing OF if >we do. Heyward and Schwarber don't hit lefties well.
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>Barry Bonds shouldn't be in the HOF

Literally the atheism of sports related opinions
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>>64148625
>that inning where the Jays got extremely lucky it was apparent the Rangers were far the better team.
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>>64148406
22
Cardinals
Fuck I don't know they're all bad. Rand Paul if theres a gun to my head
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>>64148406

23

Angels, lived in Anaheim for half of my life

Donald Trump
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>>64148581

Alright, not the best example, BUT some pretty good players have been fucked from having to sit on benches. Nate Schierholtz was a bench piece but had a couple of good years playing full time while getting paid.

>>64148591

She deserves a good rape tbqhwy.

>>64148601

I'm sorry about your pain.

>>64148607

I'll gladly take a starter. He should be in a package for Tyson Ross. But I don't have extreme confidence in this bullpen.
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>>64148531
Relievers are like the weather. Baez is too valuable to trade for anything other than an ace-caliber pitcher (obviously not by himself).

Also, I loved Fontenot in 08, but be real. He never had Baez's potential. Or value. He was a manlet with surprising power and a serviceable defender.
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>>64148705
How dare you respond to me
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>people actually supporting trump for president

typical /mlb/
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>Best Fans
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>>64148706
Are you forgetting that the Rangers only took the lead in that game due to what was possibly the luckiest play in baseball history?
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>>64148633
Get myself ejected and let someone else take the fall.
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>>64148643

What'd he do?

>>64148705

In Soviet Russia, bourgeois is you!
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Can't get anything by Jim. This guy is an absolute madman
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>>64148651
>steroid users should be let into the Hall of Fame
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>>64145688
>>Seth Patterson @patterson_seth 38m38 minutes ago
>>For signing with the Cubs Jason Heyward I hope you get Lou Gehrigs

>get piccolo motherfucker
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>>64148406
>>64148406
>24
>Mets
>believing in politicians

like other anon said, gun to my head, probably Hill-Dog
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>>64148718

>He was a manlet with surprising power and a serviceable defender.

I'll give you that. He's not the best example, but guys like Schierholtz and DeRosa comes to mind. They were bench pieces for too long but, once they really got to play, they had some pretty good years. Casey Blake is probably another great example.

But, true, let's not waste Baez on just a reliever. Cubs can absolutely get something great for him (and others).
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>>64148718
They have big plans for Baez. They want him to be the new Zobrist. He honestly could be better then him long term because of the bat. Honestly, I'd like to see them try him out in CF. He's been playing that position in winter ball.
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>>64148806
>ignoring Barry's god-like hand eye coordination, plate discipline, and career accomplishments because of "muh roids"
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>>64148773
I don't want politics on /mlb/, so let it suffice to say he must be deported.

>tfw I'm getting stars in my eyes like the offseason of '08-'09
>remember what happened next

I-it'll be different this time, right?
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>>64148850
I didn't know Barry Bonds trolled /sp/
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>>64148625
Even if the errors were made by 1 person (which they weren't, and Odor's misplay of that bloop probably should've been an error too), being reversed swept was a team effort.
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>>64148705
Good thing you are dead. Hope someone piss on your corpse.
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Orioles have a winning season for 2016 desu senpai. Kekees have no chance and implode mid season. Red keks have shitty players. Blow gays have no pitching. The TB Gays are irrelevant.
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>>64148913
pretty accurate post tbqfwhy
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>>64148872

Just get the helium tanks ready, m8. Everything goes to waste. Nothing lasts in life. We all die sometime.
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>>64148936
Too bad we were 0-6 against the Twins.
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>>64147913
Angels and As are secondary in their markets.
Seattle is hidden hidden in their own little corner of the country
also, longest active postseason drought
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>>64148954
Feels bad man.
>>
>>64148913
>>64148936
Tbqh with you Joes, it will be incredibly satisfying to knock you memelords back down to your eternal 4th place position
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>>64146046
The Cubs have elite pitching coaches as well
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>>64148968
Who's fifth? Red keks? How's the 2015 AL All Star shortstop.
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>>64148828
That's what I'm hoping. Baez must eventually take over 2B, but he's essentially Zobrist's understudy unless/until Ben loses it or Javy wins it. His defense is so damn good, expect him to relieve Zo at second by the 7th often.

I wouldn't mind losing him, but only for a legit ace with more than a year of team control at least. Or some similarly impactful bat at a position of weakness. But preferably an ace. Obviously it would cost more than him, but he's a big trade chip.

Prefer to see him grow in Wrigley for now otherwise.
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>>64148977
Yeah Bosio is the man. It's too bad we lost Derek Johnson to the Brewers though. He's a great pitching guy. He helped build Vanderbilt into a perennial powerhouse and is party responsible for David Price and Sonny Gray to name a couple.
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>>64148850
>doing steroids even though you were already a Hall of Fame player
>ruining your legacy forever

Barry pls go
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>>64148998
Joe loves mixing and matching guys based on offensive or defensive situations. Hell he was pulling Schwarber and Coghlan out in the 6th inning for defense this past few years. It's one of the reasons I'm not too concerned about guys not getting enough ABs
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>>64148947
Of course, I would just like to see more than one year as a legit contender.

>yfw Heyward Milton Bradley's the Cubs chemistry
>>
>mest sign Assdribble Cabrera
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>>64149075
Heyward is nothing like Bradley
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>>64148995
Shut up SHUT UP

WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU
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>>64146869
Yeah because the fans really pack the stadium for a guy with a high UZR
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>>64149165
Real fans of the sport do.
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>>64145213
ching chong me rikey egg roll
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>>64149165
Because fans packing for the stadium dictates how good a player is
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>>64149165
>I don't understand baseball
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>>64149104
>right fielder
>signed with Cubs after 97 win season
>wears sunglasses in the outfield
>has never eaten a ghost pepper

I don't like these warning signs.
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>>64149165
ichiro didnt hit homeruns or drive in people but he still brought in a lot of fans
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>>64146561
That's why the Giants are in on him.
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>>64149165

Pffft what a pleb. I had some fantastic bleach seats in CF this year when the Cubs played the Nats. Obviously, I got to see Harper play and even hit a dinger, which was cool. I even saw Scherzer's wicked pitching. But you know what I really remember from the game? The ridiculous amount of space that Denard Span covers in CF. That motherfucker is fast and good. If it was in the air, nothing got past him.
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>>64148406
2X
O's
Pic
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>>64149260

>black

Matter of time before he gets shot by some cops outside of Wrigley (because he deserved it, of course).
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>>64146561

>tfw you think back to the ninth inning of gm 7 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbI54dTaFT4

Who else was /abouttohaveaheartattack/ back then? Could Gordon have turned it into an inside-the-parker if he went full-speed the whole way?
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>>64149218
What I'm saying is that you pay a guy top dollar if he can put up all around great numbers and not just be good on defense because that doesn't draw casual fans or their money in.
>>64149224
I'm actually a sabermetrics guy to a degree. I just don't think his numbers warrant that much money.
>>64149309
He got hits at a high rate, routinely beat out ground balls with his speed, had the best arm in the game, and had an entire country behind him.
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>>64149394

no
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>>64146921
Believe it or not, Cubs are one of the most desirable teams players want to play for at some point in their career.
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>>64146561
>Better defensively than Heyward
Heyward is the best corner outfield in the game
>>
>>64147427
You're neglecting to mention the fact that that's only because 1/2 the team was injured and they were pretty much running out their AAA team every day
>>
Do the Cardinals throw their money at Chris Davis now? Or Justin Upton?
>>
>>64149614
Problably Gordon or CarGo
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>>64149614
Please don't do Davis, Cards. I want that sack of shit Boras to come crawling back to us and accept a 4yr/$80M contract for Davis.
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>>64145363
underrated post
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discus
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wtf
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reminder that memeiner anons are total faggots
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>>64149723

Winning the offseason means nothing. Cubs got some work to do.
>>
>>64149837
wow man what did we do to you
>>
>>64149837
>he actually dumped this qt for some slimy Dominican girl

I hope that anon feels bad every time he sees her face posted here
>>
I swear to god if Dombrowski trades everyone the Marlins wanted for Fernandez I will personally come to his office at Fenway Park and slap the shit out of his stupid ass.
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>>64149837

she's part of Felix's harem now, there's no looking back to junior prom
>>
>>64149837
That guy is a complete fuck up
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>>64149837
>>64149930
>>64149938
what are you guys talking about
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>>64149922
He's not bandwagoner, don't worry.

I take DD's comments about "not seeking out any other big transactions this offseason" as truth.

Why? Because he's done literally everything he has said he was going to do this offseason.

1. Get a power pitcher (Price)
2. Better the bullpen (Kimbrel, Smith)
3. Get a back OF (Young)

At this point, I think he's all ears, but he's not actively shopping

That is to say, he's open to big deals and whatnot, but he's not the one making the calls to other teams for it to happen.

And DD loves the young kids on the team (something he was never allowed in Detroit because the Owner is in desperate win now mode), he wouldn't trade them for anything other than possibly the likes of Sonny Gray or Chris Sale.
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>"Why didn't you take me to prom, anon?"
>"Do you really think you'll end up with Maria?"
>"I could have saved you, anon."
>>
>>64149837
That faggot could be plowing that every day if he didn't go for some slut. baka desu senpai.
>>
>>64149973
Mariners fan got asked by that girl to prom but he decide to go with some fat Dominican grill who has kids with a black guy now.
And that grill is now a scout for the Mariners.
:^)
>>
Sometimes the Red Sox can be such a based franchise

https://twitter.com/RedSox/status/675460087217979392

>tfw didn't get picked

I tried at least
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>tfw you don't browse /mlb/ for one day and you miss out on all the hottest new memes
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>>64150083
wow. i heard about her being a scout but come the fuck on, anon.
>>
I really, really don't want to think about this but...

The Cubs should trade Baez + Soler for Salazar or Carrasco + Cody Allen. Cubs and Indians would have to add more pieces to make it work. Cubs could get Chisenhall, Indians could get Jason Hammel + money, or some pitching prospects (Johnson or Edwards). Whatever makes sense.

Then, the Cubs would look like this:

C - Montero
1B - Rizzo
2B - Zobrist
SS - Russell
3B - Bryant
LF - Schwarber
CF - someone who is amazing defensively, even if they don't hit much
RF - Heyward

SP - Arrieta
SP - Lester
SP - Salazar / Carrasco
SP - Lackey
SP - Hendricks

SU - Rondon
CL - Allen

By putting Heyward in RF and getting a defensive-minded CF, Schwarber is less of a liability in LF.

Am I batshit insane, is this feesible, or both?
>>
>>64150011
Baby come back
>>
>>64150142
You are delusional.

But with Theo at the helm, anything's possible.
>>
>>64150142
>sign someone to fill the hole in CF
>immediately make a new hole in CF
>>
>>64150142
I saw something suggesting the Cubs trade Soler+ for Inciarte+Teheran
>>
>>64150142
yeah

thats not happening
>>
>>64150204
That is really really stupid
>>
>>64150011
Seattleanon, if you're reading this, give her a call. I bet she thinks about you everyday wishing you'd have asked her out.
>>
>>64150011
I hope that anon is a massive kek with three wife's sons.
>>
>>64150142
>The Cubs should trade Baez + Soler for Salazar or Carrasco + Cody Allen
Ajahhajajajajajaakakakaja
>>
>>64150021
desu nothing ever came of my prom date
>>
>>64150233
If he does call I hope she calls him a faggot
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>>64145358
>Soler for Carrasco
>>
When is pitchers/catchers report?
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>>64149994
offbyfive.png

I do like his moves so far. I can't wait to see Price at the Trop now that he's keked the Rays twice within their own division. Very glad Miley's had his his "talents" taken elsewhere. Personally I'm hesitant on any pitcher that changes leagues (thus my cautious hope for Kimbrel's continued eliteness), but I just hope Vazquez comes back firing and JBJ hits above .260.
>>
>>64150317
5 months - 5 days
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>>64150277
You faggot. That's what you get when you go for some slut who's just going with you for the sake of going than some girl who genuinely likes you. Not only that, she fucking likes baseball. smfh at you senpai.
>>
>>64150329
so its the same for every team?

kind of new to the intricacies of baseball
>>
>>64149172
I didn't think I'd ever see this happen. Brings tears to my eyes...
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>>64150360
Yeah
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>>64150197

Theo's a fucking maximal mad man. To quote Theo: "Don't let your dreams be dreams. Yesterday, you said, tomorrow. SO, JUST DO IT. MAKE. YOUR DREAMS. COME TRUE." :^)

>>64150200

Heyward is not an ideal option at CF. Why not make RF better (;__;) with his defense, get another guy who covers tons of ground in CF, and push Schwarber to the line so that he won't have to cover much?

>>64150204

That's possible. I could see that. It would probably be Soler+ though.

>>64150221

That's what your mum said til my dick was in her mouth.

>>64150269

Faggy Memeke plz.
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>tfw i have qt friend who likes going to MLB, single-A MiLB, and >hockey games
[fire emoji]
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>>64149396
You should know that Heyward hits for contact then, which is exactly what the Cubes need
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>>64150389
>Heyward is not an ideal option at CF. Why not make RF better (;__;) with his defense, get another guy who covers tons of ground in CF, and push Schwarber to the line so that he won't have to cover much?
because you'd create a hole to improve a position that doesn't need to improved
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>>64150394
that's pretty based. where are you where all those are near to each other
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>there are retards who believe Schwarbordo is anything more than a DH
>There are retards who take the time to make defensive schemes to fit that fat fuck.
Lmao
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>>64150327
I've got opposite feelings about Miley being gone.

Ya, he was one of the 5 ACES, but he was actually the most reliable of the 5 and easily the most durable. If you look back at my post here >>64147703 you can see that I cite quality pitching depth as one of biggest concerns this coming season. Getting rid of Miley feels like a minus in the category considering what we do have at the moment, albeit not a big minus at that.

I still think we need some serious front-end ptching depth, lest we put our hopes in the 117 Million Grape Man and Cy Young Kelly again.

Kimbrel will be elite. Don't worry.

Vazquez is great and all, but I'd rather use him as a trade chip at this point. Seems like a soon-to-be injury prone fella, and although his defense is dynamite, I'd rather have more offense there.

Swihart hit over .300 to end out the season, which is TREMENDOUS potential for a catcher, one that has been compared by Major League scouts across baseball as a "Buster Posey". I will gladly, glady, gladly take a Buster Posey as my catcher.

And if you noticed, his defense improved greatly by the end of the season, seems to me he's a quick learner.

And yes, I also hope JBJ can hit just around .240-.250

For his elite defense, that's worth it

tbqh with you Joe
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>>64149427
Ummm gordon won 4 straight gold gloves and the only reason he didn't win last year was because he got injured. Nice try though.
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>>64150412
Yeah, also gets on base. His power numbers in that stadium could actually improve too I guess.
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>>64150389
You are legitimately retarded, and annoying.
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>>64150485
>>64150485
new
>>64150485
>>64150485
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>>64150437
Los Angeles

>Dodgers
>Kings
>Quakes
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>>64150428

Pffft tell that to Theo Fucking Epstein, you cock sucker.

>>64150441

Two words: arthritic hips.

Two more words: Yasiel Puig.
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>>64150453
>gold gloves
lel
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>>64150437
Everett WA. I live very close to the Mariners single-A affiliate and there's a hockey team here too. Going to AAA games would be fun but the stadium is like 60 miles away
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>>64150503
>quakes
>la
uh
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>>64150437
Bay Area has all those in close proximity too.
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>>64150142
>trading Soler

Hell no. Baez maybe sure, he is by far more likely to be a meme.
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>>64149172
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>>64145091
>Schwarber progresses defensively
>Bryant progresses, less Ks
>Arrieta doesn't regress, no room for improvement though
Agree with everything else though
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>>64146347
Cardinals offered him over 200 mil
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