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Ohio State will lose at least 1 of the next 2 games. BOOK IT!
Find me a better duo. Pro tip, you fucking can't.
tOSU
2. Bama
3. Oklahoma
4. Clempson
5. BootyBlasters
6. Iowa
7. Houston
8. Northwest Missouri St.
9. OK St.
10. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
>>63667105
Actually it's OSU who's been getting better, Michigan is pretty much heading into opposite direction.
>>63667125
To be fair, Indiana plays everyone close, and Minnesota is better than their record indicates.
Indiana is a strange team.
>Michigan is getting better
To the guy in the last thread, since the Northwestern shutout and the 4 weeks straight giving up less than a touchdown, Michigan lost to MSU, nearly lost to Minnesota, and went into double OT against Indiana, giving up 41 points in the process. Jordan Hall and Nate Sudfeld are good, but that's still not a sign that Michigan is getting better. If anything, it looks like they peaked.
I don't even think it's a given that they beat Penn State.
>>63667167
IU is weird as fuck
>>63667128
right here
>>63667167
Regardless, OSU beat Indiana in regulation and took a big fat shit on Minnesota.
So if "Ohio State has struggled against cupcakes" is the reason why Michigan is gonna win, it just doesn't make sense since Michigan struggled even harder.
>>63667198
OSU beat minnesota by 2 scores. Comfortable, but nothing to brag about. The only big fat shit on the field that night was cardale jones.
>>63667175
OSU only beat Indiana 34-27. Don't get cocky lol
>>63667167
You are right about Indiana but wrong about Minnesota. Minnesota is dreadful and should be a one-win team. They had no business beating Kent State, Ohio, or Colorado State and won all three games on sheer dumb luck. I don't think it's a stretch to say that they're the worst team in the Big Ten besides Purdue this year.
Indiana is actually a somewhat good team, the injuries to Sudfeld and Howard derailed their season and their defense lost them games that their offense won them. They should have beaten Michigan and Buttgers.
>>63667128
>tfw switz matches the NCAA record for punt return touchdowns in Beamers last home game and then breaks the record while taking a big ole shit all over NC State.
>>63667198
>shit on Minnesota
if i recall, Minnesota had the ball and was down by 7 but threw an interception giving OSU the ball in Minnesota territory with like 2 minutes left. OSU scored in garbage time to make it a 2 score lead. bravo
>>63667227
Like I said, Indiana is better than their record indicates due to losing Howard and Sudfeld for a couple of games. We were never in danger of losing to them, where Michigan won because Indiana decided not to give Howard the ball at 4th and goal after he'd spent the whole game demolishing Michigan's defense.
Also, Elliott is a lot better a back than Howard is.
>>63667140
>chokelahoma
nope
>>63667257
OSU was up 21-0 into garbage time. Gave up two scores, Minnesota was very briefly back in the game, then OSU scored again to put them back out of reach. This was without JT.
Ohio State 34-27 Indiana
Michigan 48-41 Indiana in OT2
Ohio State 28-14 Minnesota
Michigan 29-26 Minnesota
Ohio State 49-7 Rutgers
Michigan 49-16 Rutgers
Those are their common opponents. Give me one reason why it's "probable" that Michigan wins other than "I want it to happen".
>>63667288
Good enough to get some people to bite
Not this guy
>>63667282
how is scoring 2 touchdowns and having a possession to tie the game "garbage time"? When OSU got the ball back, all they had to to was run it. For whatever reason they did a QB sneak.
>>63667288
You forgot Maryland,
OSU 49 - 28
Michigan 28 - 0
But that's hardly usable as evidence of anything
>>63667288
I said "plausible", not "probable".
I'd say a huge factor that people are dismissing is the game is in Ann Arbor.
Playing on the road is tough wherever you go.
Guess what teams these are.
Points Per Game 36.4 32.6
Points Allowed Per Game 13.8 14.8
Total Yards 453.3 393.7
Yards Passing 208.5 224.9
Yards Rushing 244.8 168.8
Yards Allowed 298.4 268.7
Pass Yards Allowed 171.6 165.5
>>63667303
West Virgina 45 - 6
>>63667316
Oklahoma - Oklahoma State?
>>63667308
Somebody in the other thread said it's "probable" the B1G cannibalizes itself, which implies tOSU losing to either MSU or UM, or both.
>>63667316
Hint: 1 has played 4 top 25 teams and the other hasn't played any.
>>63667297
The game was already out of hand. Minnesota never had a shot to win. Having the ball down a touchdown against OSU at the end of a game is a game you cannot win.
OSU called a QB run because they run the ball with their QBs and running backs in a zone run scheme. They just happened to call the QBs number on that particular play
>>63667316
Iowa
>>63667127
>tfw Tosu beats msu and then loses to Michigan
I can't wait for the butt hurt cries from /cfb/.
msu BTFO, Tosu BTFO, B1G BTFO, /cfb/ BTFO
>>63667316
The 1st column is OSU and the 2nd is Michigan.
>>63667332
Could just mean Iowa wins out.
>>63667316
OSU - Iowa?
>>63667316
michigan osu
>>63667308
MSU is plausible. Michigan is not. Michigan losing out is far more probable than them beating OSU. I would go so far as to say Indiana, Minnesota, and Penn State both had a more plausible chance of beating Ohio State than Michigan does
>>63667316
Alabama and Iowa?
>>63667337
Minnesota had the ball while they were 7 points down. They could have EASILY put that game into overtime with one score. After all they scored twice in the 4th pretty easily against OSU.
>>63667367
Do you know the definition of the word "plausible"?
I could understand the Michigan meme a bunch of weeks ago but not now, just fucking no.
>They only lost to Utah, which is an elite team.
Utah got exposed already and UM also lost to MSU.
>they have an elite defense, 3 shutouts in a row
They conceded 41 points to fucking Indiana and 26 against Minnesota.
I'm just not seeing it.
Why does some autist keep posting Oklahoma webms that nobody cares about?
>>63667377
Plausible means "seeming reasonable or possible".
Michigan beating Ohio State is totally unreasonable and completely impossible. It fails the definition of plausible.
>>63667394
The denial is strong here
ACC AND PAC SUCK A FAT DICK.
NOTRE DAME SUCKS A FAT DICK FOR ALL THEIR ACC GAMES AS WELL.
>>63667390
It is very difficult to accept that losing to one of the historically worst iterations of their bitter rival is going to keep them out of the CFP regardless of what they do. I can't blame them.
>>63667394
>If I keep repeating it then hopefully it comes true.
>>63667380
to be fair it was 34 in regulation
The think the argument lies in the fact that OSU has played a few teams close, and Michigan will be the best team they've played. Ofcourse OSU will have jt barret
>>63667394
Stats for OSU and Michigan. Michigan has played 3 teams in the top 25. OSU has played 2 teams in the top 50.
Points Per Game 36.4 32.6
Points Allowed Per Game 13.8 14.8
Total Yards 453.3 393.7
Yards Passing 208.5 224.9
Yards Rushing 244.8 168.8
Yards Allowed 298.4 268.7
Pass Yards Allowed 171.6 165.5
>>63667390
>>63667411
>all these non blue blood opinions
sigh
>>63667406
fat dicks
fat dicks everywhere
>>63667390
>>63667411
Let me explain. Beating Baylor was a pleasant surprise and it honestly made my week, and watching highlights keeps that good feeling going. His good feelings are turning into shitposting. Classic 4chan behavior
>>63667127
>>63667354
Dream on faggots.
>>63667394
How about the coaching edge, Harbaugh>urban
>>63667227
>OSU had a close game against a shit team
>but you know, Cardale was starting, and the g-
>EXCUSES! FACE IT OSU GOT EXPOSED AS FUCK AND WON'T BEAT ANYONE
>Michigan has a close game against a shit team
>b-but refball and injuries and fluke plays and luck
I honestly love the idiotic Ann Arbor double standards.
>>63667426
>Oklahoma
>blue-blood
I kek'd
College Football Bluebloods:
Texas
Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
USC
Alabama
>>63667370
Vonn Bell, Darron Lee, and Joshua Perry were all not on the field during both TD drives. The difference is 3 of the four best players on the defense.
>>63667439
I raise up the needy and punish the ignorant. I am fan of a blue blood program and because of my demonstrably higher fanhood status I have expectations placed on me, which I begrudgingly and reluctantly accept. It is the responsibility of all blue blood fans to support the brand of college football.
A clemson and an Iowa fan obviously wouldn't understand this, tis the mind of the mediocre to not understand.
ESPN Experts' Poll
Nov. 17, 2015
Name Position School Year 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Total
Derrick Henry RB Alabama Jr. 10 0 0 0 0 50
Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma Jr. 0 2 4 1 0 22
Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio State Jr. 0 3 2 1 1 21
Leonard Fournette RB LSU So. 0 3 0 2 3 19
Deshaun Watson QB Clemson So. 0 1 1 4 1 16
Dalvin Cook RB Florida State So. 0 0 1 1 2 7
Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford So. 0 1 1 0 0 7
Corey Coleman WR Baylor Jr. 0 0 0 1 2 4
Luke Falk QB Washington State So. 0 0 1 0 0 3
Keenan Reynolds QB Navy Sr. 0 0 0 0 1 1
>>63667426
you tried son, and you failed.
>>63667460
>Texas
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL no.
>>63667422
Your entire argument is that because Michigan's schedule has been harder to date than OSU's, Michigan will win.
That's fucking stupid.
>>63667487
Oh yeah, and I forgot Nebraska.
That's all though.
>>63667460
>this bait
don't fall for it guys
>>63667496
>Your entire argument is that because Michigan's schedule has been harder to date than OSU's, Michigan will win.
THAT'S LITERALLY THE CFP COMMITTEE
>>63667483
Is there anything less hood than supporting Notre Dame?
>>63667460
Texas is a blueblood and Oklahoma isn't.
>>63667460
>Texas over Oklahoma
I'm not a fan of either of them but that's just stupid
>>63667439
can't fault you for enjoying a big win.
>>63667448
How the hell is Harbaugh better? Look at their records kek. Urban is GOAT
>>63667516
maybe supporting BYU? I see your point though, and I agree.
>>63667512
The committee's job is to pick the teams most deserving, not who is going to win when they play. Rankings don't reflect presicted results. No committee member with half a brain thought Baylor would beat Oklahoma, at least I don't think so.
>>63667460
>>63667521
>>63667501
This is reddit tier bait.
>>63667521
>>63667524
They're by far the most iconic team in one of the most iconic football states. Everyone knows the longhorns (hook em, etc.), even soccer moms, whereas nobody knows who the fuck the sooners are.
>>63667548
pretending.jpeg
>>63667551
>whereas nobody knows who the fuck the sooners are.
The bait is terrible.
>>63667548
Nope, I'm from the east coast and you see Texas gear all over the place, but I've never seen anyone wearing OU gear.
Texas has far more name recognition and branding nationwide.
Why do people thing somebody from the Shig 12 has any chance of winning the Hiesman? Literally no defense in that enire conference.
>>63667099
In the spirit of the OP, I present to you:
OFFICIAL BLUEBOOD MEMBERSHIP:
----------------------------------------
UNDISPUTED TIER:
Alabama
USC
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Michigan
Ohio State
DISPUTED TIER:
Texas
Nebraska
Tennessee
NOT MEMBERS EVER:
Everyone Else
>>63667605
>Texas above Michigan
>Michigan isn't in dispute of being a blueblood
2/10 bait.
>>63667605
i'll just reply to it now:
>MUH TEXAXS HURR DURRR
look at the natties, son, and stfu
>>63667589
>branding is indicative of Blueblood status
Is Oregon a blueblood now?
>>63667625
No, but it bumps them up higher than their rank would be otherwise.
>>63667618
texas is tied with fucking:
georgia tech
michigan state
penn state
lsu
texas has LESS THAN
miami
nebraska
pittsburgh
NOT A BLUEBLOOD faggot
>>63667637
So basically equal to Texas?
>>63667618
her silence with regards to:
>>63667621
and
>>63667646
is the sound of her brain exploding with all that cognitive dissonance. everything she's grown up believing about texas football has been a lie. they are barely even "borderline" status, and penn state an nebraska have a stronger case for inclusion than texas
>Soonerfags think their team is more iconic than the Texas Longhorns
Oh God, the delusion.
>>63667668
>claiming some vague metric called "iconic"
>yet gets completely btfo with hard facts and numbers
stay retarded, texas
>>63667544
And what criteria do they use to determine the best teams?
Whats that phrase I keep hearing? SOS?
The SOS argument is here as long as the CFB wont shut the fuck up about it.
>>63667618
>calling a well-thought-out post bait
>your post is itself bait
>>63667668
>calling sooners delusional
>longhorns actually the most delusional of them all
since when did previously honorable texas begin using jew argument tactics?
>>63667605
How can Oklahoma be higher than Texas when 80% of the players are from Texas?
>>63667710
you forgot the jaden smith face
>>63667605
>literally no Ivy
Wow babby list rankings, cute.
>>63667681
>Oklahoma one a bunch of "titles" back in the pre-civil war era, thus they are more of a blue-blood than Texas
top lel
>>63667723
why do you keep memeing this so hard? it's been hashed and rehashed a million fucking times, but the 50 "national championships" claimed by ivies don't mean shit because they weren't playing any teams nationally, and most of those seasons were 2-4 games long. the modern game begins somewhere in the 1930-40s
>>63667710
How can any team in the United States claim to be a blue-blood over Texas when over half of their rosters are from Texas?
>>63667746
sorry you FEEL that way, but facts are facts. go to reddit and become and sjw, i feel they give more credence to feelings. sounds like more your style
>>63667762
>half of their rosters are from Texas
[CITATION FUCKING NEEDED]
if anything, half their rosters are from CA or FL, not TX.
>>63667768
>24-17
>24-17
>24-17
>24-17
>>63667551
>>63667551
OU is superior to Texas in literally every single way historically. There is no comparison. We have owned you the past 20 years. You have gone through 3 coaches in the time we've had one. We have 8 conference titles to your what? 2? I can't even remember because you literally can't compete, and OU hasn't had a season like Texas has had the past two years in literally 25 years.
>>63667746
Oklahoma has more titles than Texas since 1980 so that doesn't really make any sense unless you are false flagging to make Texas fans look stupid
>one
>they weren't playing any teams nationally
They beat every fucking team that existed.
>most of those seasons were 2-4 games long
The first 10 seasons.
What about the other 40?
fbs teams are scared of ivy ball. Just admit it.
>>63667787
>Texas fans need help looking stupid
Pretty much just a trolling free for all in this thread
>>63667693
Are you drunk? SoS is a huge factor in rankings. As it should be. It does not mean that a team is better than another team necessarily. It means they have a better resume. Clemson has a great resume but would get blasted by Ohio State or Alabama. That doesn't make OSU and Bama #1 and #2 because they're better than Clemson, because they don't have equal resumes.
Who is better =/= SoS
>>63667605
>Texas
Texas has won a championship as well as been to a championship more recently than Oklahoma, USC or Michigan yet they are somehow disputed?
>>63667175
The bettors agree. The spread has narrowed to UM -4. I'm not sure I'd take either team with that spread. I was hoping to get PSU with a few more points.
>>63667778
what is that even in response to? i'm not a oklahoma fan. the world doesn't revolve around your shitty state of texas. no one even cares about you outside of oklahoma nad texas
>>63667701
When they realize that they aren't accomplished enough on the field to be blue bloods
>>63667128
make way for the number 1 tag team rapist duo in the ncaa
>>63667803
>more recently
after reading all your pathetic attempts to defend texas as a blueblood, i think you actually just don't know what the term "blueblood" means. look it up then come back here
>>63667805
I would take msu they are getting 13.5
>>63667792
those championships were mostly awarded retroactively, nobody was even bothering to worry about who the National Champ was until the late 20's
>>63667802
It is a valid argument as long as the bowl selectors use it to rank.
It is literally how the best teams are decided.
>>63667834
I was just looking at that shit.
How about Ok State -1 vs Baylor? You gotta take OSU in that one.
>yfw 24-17
>>63667665
Not a longhorn fag. The post was more meant to degrade the scUM.
>>63667836
They beat every team in existence.
>>63667853
>35-45
>Texas fans think head-to-head can be used to break a three way tie
>>63667837
Rankings do not mean best teams, the mean teams that have proven the most. That is not the same thing. Nobody is deciding the 4 best teams in the nation, they are picking the 4 most deserving.
I don't know why you can't tell the difference between the two concepts. Being ranked higher than another team doesn't mean that you are better than that team.
Red River Rivalry Wins:
Texas: 61
Oklahoma: 44
kek
>>63667848
Seems like a pickem I don't know Big 12 like the B1G, but would probably pick Ok State -1.
>>63667853
>>63667853
Considering your coach was on the verge of being fired I don't blame you for celebrating an OU win likes it the super bowl.
I don't know how Brown wasn't fired after losing a fourth time by a near 40+ point margin.
Oh, and two of the last three times we've lost to Texas we went on to play for in a NY6 bowl or better.
>>63667874
>I don't know why you can't tell the difference between the two concepts.
It never worked that way and no one will ever accept it that way.
>>63667853
>>63667823
>>63667803
>>63667778
Friendly reminder that despite beating OU 45-35, the nation recognized that Texas was still inferior and did not deserve to be advanced to the Nattie. Tis the price you pay for not being a blueblood.
>>63667316
POST THE ANSWER FAGGOT
my guess is bama and osu
>>63667876
>leather helmet wins
Texas is 40-35-3 against Oklahoma in the poll era
>>63667605
As a Nebraska fan, I definitely think they should be in the DISPUTED TIER at this point, but at the same time they are leagues above Texas and Tennessee.
Also, if you put Nebraska in the DISPUTED TIER you would have to put Michigan down there too, because they have as long of a title drought as us.
OFFICIAL BLUEBOOD MEMBERSHIP:
----------------------------------------
UNDISPUTED TIER:
Alabama
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma
USC
DISPUTED TIER:
Nebraska
Michigan
>"IMPLYING" TIER
FSU
Miama
Texas
Tennessee
NOT MEMBERS EVER:
Everyone Else
>>63667931
I would put Florida in the implying tier
>>63667931
>As a Nebraska fan, I definitely think they should be in the DISPUTED TIER at this point
god, why are nebraska fans always such bros? it's like they are going out of their way to be reasonable and likable
>>63667902
bysytander just kinda following this debate, I can't help looking at this image and seeing that UT beat OU three times when they were lower ranked, but OU never beat UT as the lower ranked team.
>>63667949
Not even. No history outside of Spurrier and Urbz.
>>63667949
hahahaha fucking why?
florida, along with the rest of the sec, belongs in the NOT MEMBERS EVER category. quit trying to sneak your way in the back door
>>63667927
>Texas is 40-35-3 against Oklahoma in the poll era
So they're still 5 games worse.
>>63667931
>DISPUTED TIER:
>Michigan
LEL
Remember that one guy who kept saying that Illinois will take it to the BTCCG
Blue blood discussion just brings out the best shitposting in all of us.
>>63667956
I don't know why that happens and I don't care. If losing to Texas means we win every game then so be it, and frankly, because of TCU and Baylor's pussy OOC schedules we really need Texas to get their shit together so the conference can actually be respected again. When only one of OU or Texas is competitive it really does hurt the other one.
>>63667955
hey, thanks bro. :^)
If the three of the four teams end up being Clemson, Bama, and Ohio State/Iowa, then do you take an 11-1 Notre Dame who has wins over Stanford, Temple, and Navy and a loss to Clemson; or an 11-1 Oklahoma who has wins over TCU, Baylor, and Oklahoma State and a loss to Texas?
>>63667982
really should only be 4
>>63667955
>Michigan not a blue-blood
>reasonable
OU faggots should be banned from this board. Nothing but shitposting and webms nobody gives a fuck about from their end t b h.
>>63668006
TTech will take their spot.
>>63668019
I take Oklahoma
>>63668035
And I should not have sexual intercourse with your mother on a nightly basis but da pussy is too sweet.
>>63668019
Oklahoma has much better wins and a much worse loss.
I think OU deserves to be because the quality of wins has more to do with how you're playing, especially late in the season.
ND still has to beat a Stanford team that is a 60/40 favorite over them
>>63668019
You move ND to 3 and make Bama 4
>>63668069
This. Stanford is not a top 10 team and OU will have beaten multiple top 10 wins to ND's 0. Not to mention ND's entire resume is dependent on the 24th ranked team staying there.
>>63668069
They'll beat Stanford.
They've been a paper tiger since Harbaugh left.
>>63668019
Fuck Notre Dame, they need to join a conference or die
I think Oklahoma would get in over them because they would be a conference champion and their wins would be leagues better than fucking Temple and Navy.
But that's implying Choklahoma doesn't choke against TCU or Okie State
>>63668019
if Tulsa beats Navy then ND takes a pretty big blow
>>63668091
>>63668103
>OU excuses intensifies
if the ACC, SEC, and B1G champions all get in again and the XII champion misses out again, will that mean we might finally see a real push for it to get to 12 teams for the CCG? or will it just be more offseason chatter that never amounts to anything
>>63668116
Big 12 is arena football tier and is a joke in /cfb/.
>muh 55-48 shootouts every week
>>63668116
This season is shaping up to be ACC, SEC, B1G and Big 12 champs going to the CFP
Pac 12 cannibalized itself again and no way is an independent getting in over a conference champ
>>63667988
Remember that one guy with some crazy flag I've never heard of who kept thinking Maryland would be good?
>>63668019
ND also handily beat USC, who could also still win the PAC-12. Also Pitt is going to be top 25 soon.
OU fags in this thread getting BTFO
How'd the Red River Rivalry game go for y'all this year?
>staymad
>>63668162
>Also Pitt is going to be top 25 soon.
They're not gonna be ranked even if they win out
>>63668178
I wish my team lost to the #1 team.....
>>63668178
Least our best player didn't fake his fake girlfriend's death before the nattie, completely derailing the team in the process
>>63668191
Winning tough games and dropping a trap game >>>> losing to the best team on your schedule
Quality win > quality loss
>>63668157
well it's not just "any" independent, it's blue blood notre dame.
for that matter, what about the reverse hypothetical? if ND can't get into the CFP even with a good season just because they're independent, will that lead to a real push for them to join a conference or just more offseason chatter that never amounts to anything?
>>63668192
>fake his fake girlfriend's death
Someone has to make a movie out of this, Rudy 2.
>>63668212
Except, ND has more quality wins than you
>but MUH BIGXII competition
talk to me when they play a team that actually can field a defense
>>63668214
>ND joins the Big 12, and Texas comes back on line
>OU, Texas, and ND spend the next decade terrorizing the Pac 12, Big 10, and SEC
Holy fuck that would be glorious
>>63668271
TTU held Arkansas to under 30 points. Arkansas put 50 on Ole Miss. Ole Miss beat Bama.
Thanks for playing nigger but we smashed TTU. If Tulsa beat Navy or Temple loses again your season is over.
>having a seasno dependent on a navy win
Holy fuck are we even having this conversation
>>63668214
How is this a good season for ND, I mean, if they win out at 11-1, their only quality wins are over USC and Stanford, and no Navy and Temple are not quality wins they are Go5 scrubs.
if they end up 10-2, their only quality win would be over USC and they would have lost their two biggest games on their schedule. That wouldn't be a good season win all you play is a cupcake-tier acc-like schedule
if they had ended up at 12-0, then yeah I think they would have gotten in to the CFP, especially over the ACC champion if it was Clemson
They already join the ACC in other sports, they should just fuck off and join them in football already.
>quality loss
Has there ever been a more c ucked measurement? That's like saying "my wife is getting fucked by a nigger, but at least his cock is big"
People who defend Quality of Loss should be ashamed of themselves
>>63668294
After they lose to Houston at home they either have to put Houston top 10, or ND doesn't have a quality win.
>Unless
G5 wins are only quality wins if you're Notre Dame.
>>63668274
Texas would block the fuck out of ND potentially joining.
ND to the B1G makes the most sense, geographically and historically.
But they would most likely end up in the ACC if anywhere, but I doubt they'll join a conference anytime soon.
>>63668271
>/cfb/ logic
Navy shit on Memephis, who shit on Ole Miss. Ole Miss beat bama, therefore ND is better than Bama
>>63668271
They won't by season's end. When your argument for your SoS is Navy you already lost the argument
>>63668231
Fuck Rudy. What a goddamned cunt nugget. I would have beaten the fuck out of that little piece of shit too if I were the starting offensive line.
>>63668324
meant for
>>63668294
>>63668322
>Texas would block the fuck out of ND potentially joining.
No they'd just make Houston the other team added.
>>63668299
Texas and USC imploding really hurt ND. How bad is that schedule that fucking Navy is anchoring it
>>63668324
>(you) logic
the transitive property does not work that way
Notre Dame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oklahoma
From the eye test.
>>63668334
ND is better than Bama, but not OU. The argument is for who deserves to be in and I'm sorry but the strength of your argument resides on almost but NOT beating Clemson and hoping a military academy and a Go5 school have strong finishes.
Admit it bro, if you were any other team you would be sitting where UNC is.
>ND's best win is fucking Temple
>>63668396
Navy, but still sad
>>63668309
Maybe it is a chuckold measurement, but it makes sense to use.
Let's say hypothetically that ND and Oklahoma both win out and they are 11-1. For the sake of argument, let's just say that they both have equal SoS and number of Quality wins. How would you decide between the two to pick the last 4th team to get in?
Well, Oklahoma lost to a Texas team with a losing record, while Notre Dame lost to an undefeated, ACC champion Clemson. Obviously Notre Dame would come out the victor in this scenario.
But yeah, no loss is quality imo and it should be like a last resort sort of tie breaker determiner.
Official Current Hesiman standings
1. Derrick Henry
2. Ezekiel Elliott
3. Baker Mayfield
4. Leonard Fournette
5. Dalvin Cook
>>63668466
>Bama running backs
lelno
>>63668427
How can you bring up records without bringing up who they played.
OU will have beaten THREE teams ranked in the top 10 this season, Okie Lite and Baylor are still there. They have smashed the two best offenses in the nation and are fixing to play the the third (albeit depleted).
OU has five wins RIGHT NOW that are more impressive than anything ND has done. WVU, TTU, Tennessee, Baylor, TCU, and Okie Lite are better than anything ND will have beaten this year.
Also realize that if Navy loses to Tulsa that your SoS is going to be in arguably worse than OU's and Tulsa has a top 20 offense and a wideout that's going in the first round if he can shave a tenth of a second off his 40
>>63668466
>Winning over Baker "Kliff Babby" Mayfield
Sorry it's impossible.
>>63668466
>4. Leonard Fournette
"no"
the Bama game proved he's a meme rb
>>63668477
I'm an OU fan and if OU makes the cfp it should go to Mayfield no question.
Henry has a fucking NFL O line that he's running behind and the SEC is really down this year, HOWEVER, his QB is fucking terrible, his wideouts are worse, and his defense isn't scoring.
He pretty much has to do it all himself.
>>63668487
He's saying hypothetically if they were to end up with the same SoS. It's a hypothetical, not meant to be something that can necessarily happen this year.
Also, completely agreed that quality of loss is for kucks and any use of it at all in declaring a team to be good should be met immediately with slander and ridicule
>>63668487
holy fuck, did you not read the part where I said "For the sake of argument, let's just say that they both have equal SoS and number of Quality wins"
That was a hypothetical situation about how the quality loss argument could be made. Obviously, if they both win out the rest of this season Oklahoma is leagues above ND in terms of SoS and Quality wins you fucking sperg
>>63668338
>Texas letting Houston in
if anything they would block Houston and any other Texas team. Texas has no problem with letting ND in, the problem would be finding the other team. Boise State looks good but it's a shitty market to add. They would probably go for a good market/shitty team like Tulane or Memphis
>>63668537
>For the sake of argument of quality loss
>how great of a loser you are is the argument
yeah i guess i can't wrap my mind around such stupidity
>>63668534
I think ND is top ten.
But if I'm seeding for a fucking tournament I don't just seed people higher for good losses, that's fucking stupid.
I would look at wins for a tiebreaker and see who has the best wins.
You guys hear about the B1G vs SEC challenge Bielema was talking about.
>>63668551
committee already proved they don't give a FUCK about "quality" losses last year anyways
>>63668551
Are hypotheticals hard for you?
>>63668550
This already happened and every Texas team voted Houston in and the non Texas teams blocked it.
>>63668551
>this damage control
kek m8, next time you should read what you're replying to.
>>63668550
Instead of adding a team soley for football they should consider basketball revenue as well. The 12 turned Louisville away who then went on to beast mode with Charlie Strong then their basketball team won the natty.
>>63668563
Sounds good to me, although it should be in late November so that SEC teams have to actually play in the cold and snow.
Fucking pussies.
>>63668563
No, but it sounds like Bert is fucking salty he left a perennial B1G West contender for a fucking scrub Arkansas program that exposed how shit he is as a coach
top laffs
wait why are Notre Dame fans not properly bringing up the fact they BTFO the Texas team that beat OU?
"quality losses" is stupid but when there is a common opponent like that it's a better argument than everything but quality wins
>>63668566
>if hypothetically notre dame wasn't a cfb fossil with a shit schedule who always ends up being overrated, would you think they were a good team because of the way they lost
That's just too far out for me man, might as well be talking about what would happen if we used dinosaurs for players instead of humans
>>63668588
>I live in an irrelevant flyover state and I'm butthurt
>>63668588
Nah fuck that. A B1G - SEC showdown would be the GOAT way to start the season every year
OU got bootyblasted by a team the bootyblasters absolutely bootyblasted.
They have no argument. ND is one of the four best teams in the country. They would play anyone in the top 4 close. This is not 2012
>>63668563
>Bielema's concept would consist of ranking all 14 teams in both conferences during the preseason and matching them with their respective nonconference counterpart for a game that season.
using preseason rankings would lead to some very lopsided match-ups generally favoring the B1G considering how overrated SEC teams are in preseason rankings. e.g. SCAR, Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, Arkansas, Ole Miss
>>63668103
Wow, trashing Navy huh?
Fucking terrorist scumbag shit head.
Fuck you ya commie bastard
>>63668616
>living in the south and calling others "irrelevent"
>>63668601
The hypothetical in question is "if two teams ended the season with comparable SoS and the same record, should quality of loss matter?" Ignore the teams in the hypothetical
>>63668601
>nd schedule overrated
it ended up weird but come the fuck on man, they played GT. They played Texas. USC, Stanford, etc... THEY DO NOT PLAY A SHIT SCHEDULE. you are full of shit
>>63668598
True, but common opponent is generally further down the rung when comparing two teams
Oklahoma has a better SoS and number of Quality wins, don't they?
The big 12 should match up with Ivy's and at the end of they year the team among st them all with the best record should claim the national title.
>>63668396
>>63668406
>Shitting on the Naval Academy
ISIS scumbags confirmed
>>63668647
Navy is a fucking meme team m8
stay mad
alluh akhbar
>>63668589
You haven't been watching football if you think Arkansas is shit. Bielema has been doing a great job with that team.
>>63668661
>any of those teams
>good
>>63668641
I'd rather go off their final record the previous year, or even just a 14 year round robin between the two conferences, but the concept itself would be fun
>>63668681
navy was ahead of osu for 3 quarters last year. play them. i dare you
>>63668661
>ACC
>PAC
>6th in Big 12
Tough shit.
>>63668704
OSU was horrible at the beginning of last year
>>63668690
>3-9 (0-8 SEC)
>7-6 (2-6 SEC)
>6-4 potentially end 8-4
>great job
wew lad
>>63668704
they got bootyblasted by the bootyblasters
they are an irrelevant meme team
sorry to break it to ya
>>63668694
you dont schedule your games knowing how they will do next year. when you schedule blue-bloods you have a good shot at having a god team. when your schedule absolute trash like baylor you dont
Why do Ohio State fans love cum so much?
>>63668661
They tried to play a great schedule but literally every fucking team imploded on it. You don't rewarded for trying to do something, you get rewarded for doing it.
It's not your fault so many teams went soft on you but in that situation you really do have to win out and you didn't. You're only competitive game of the season was a loss and the CFP clearly thinks these teams are playoff worthy but isn't putting them in until the schedule works itself out. If the CFP wasn't so high on OU then Baylor would have fallen way further than that. LSU lost to a 4 and fall all the way to 9. Baylor lost to 12 and fell to 10. Baylor would have fallen lower if the CFP wasn't high on OU.
They're just not going to move them up until they've fully atoned for that texas game
>>63668750
It's tasty to be honest family.
Who else thinks a yearly Nebraska/Oklahoma rivalry game would be GOAT?
>>63668750
It's just so delicious. I like it more than ice cream. A nice bowl of cum at the end of the day is just the ticket.
>>63668763
I don't know why they do not schedule it.
>>63668763
>2 of the biggest has been teams in the country
nah
>>63668765
M8 where have you been we changed our name a few weeks ago
>>63668724
Their losses are deceptive just like TN's losses. They'll be a top 15 team next year.
>>63668750
I think because it's so salty, they can't tell the difference between it and SEC tears tobehonest
>>63668781
Didn't they say that last year?
>>63668779
that hurt my feelings anon :/
mike riley will turn it around next year, r-right?
>>63668763
We should name it "The Irrelevant Bowl"
>>63668753
>LSU lost to a 4 and fall all the way to 9. Baylor lost to 12 and fell to 10. Baylor would have fallen lower if the CFP wasn't high on OU.
>LSU goes from 2 to 9 for losing to a 4 on the road
>Baylor goes from 6 to 10 for losing to 12 at home
You might have a point there
>>63668788
TN has been a young team for 20 years now.
One of these years they'll grow into it.
>>63668781
>talk shit about ohio state's cupcake schedule
>lose to fucking toledo at home
>talk shit about based texas tech's ryan gosling coach and the air raid offense
>lose to texas tech at home
>their losses are deceptive, they'll be a top 15 team next year
"no"
>>63668763
There needs to be a rotating rivalry game between the six Blue Bloods. No one cares about Nebraska
I'm at UCLA
A lot of the football players (if not all) seem to have those hoverboard things and they all kinda roll around on them. Since I doubt that every player independently purchased them, would that be the sort of thing provided by the athletic dept? I'm thinking it would be against the rules for players to accept them for free from one of the manufacturers for effective marketing purposes (people see players rolling around on those things and think they are cool so they buy their own)
>>63668814
They didn't drop the extra 3 because 3 teams left the top 10.
With their second losses.
>>63668816
Tennessee is the biggest "NEXT YEAR IS OUR YEAR" team in sports, followed closely by UGA
>>63668819
>le air raid
stale meme desu senpai
>>63668838
It's just a nigger thing bud. I've seen non athlete niggers riding them around campus they just think it's cool.
>>63668857
Even the white offensive linesmen have them, same with Rosen. It seems that literally all of them have them, which is what I found odd.
Alabama will EASILY win all of their remaining games. They will win each remaining game (including both playoff games) by double digits.
>>63668855
I think TN could be good, but they need to stop letting a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome call plays.
Install butch in a recruiting position only, because that's literally all he's good at. Hire some talent playcalling.
>>63668855
Georgia is more the "this is our year" team that falls flat.
>>63668828
Year 1
Alabama/Ohio State
Oklahoma/Notre Dame
USC/Michigan
Year 2
Alabama/Michigan
Ohio State/Notre Dame
Oklahoma/USC
so on and so forth
>>63668855
Their entire defense is juniors and sophomores though. Tennessee is going to be for real next year.
I know it's easy to say things like "they always say that" when you're 17 and a year seems like eternity, but i'm telling you, they are going to be a good team.
>inb4 Tennessee sucks
I hate tennessee, i just know they have a young talented squad.
>>63668881
>OSU plays two bluebloods every year
I don't just like it, I LOVE it
>>63668865
White football players (non-QBs and kickers) are basically niggers.
>>63668881
OU had a 2 year home and home with ND recently and will be starting one next year with tOSU already
>>63668895
Not true at all. Offensive lineman are the least niggery players on the field.
Ohio St is the FSU of 2015.
>FSU won the title in 2013
>FSU returned nearly all starters in 2014
>FSU played nobody and when they did? lol
>OSU won the title in 2014
>OSU returned nearly all starters in 2015
>OSU has played nobody and when they do?
meme team
>>63668881
Notre dame already has a home and home with OSU in the next few years. We just got done playing home and home with OK. We play USC every year. ND knows they need a good schedule every year, we arent baylor.
>>63668895
Well Rosen is the QB and he has one.
All I'm asking is where every player got the few hundred dollars that those things cost. I'm wondering if the football team provided them for some reason
>>63668903
>>63668893
>tOSU and OU could make playoff this year and will be playing each other week 3 next year
Holy fuck all dat youngstown in one game my heart can fucking handle this pressure tbqhwyf
>>63668922
Except Ohio State has an elite coach and Jimbo Fisher is a scrub.
But I think Ohio State might lose to Michigan
>>63668922
Already said by me a few days ago.
Both had QB off the field issues.
Both will be the #3 playoff seed.
Both blown out by eventual loser in CFB playoff championship.
>>63668923
This is the thing that pisses me off. I hate ND, but they try to put together a schedule every year that is good. Baylor doesnt even fucking try. TCU doesnt try. At least try, this shit should be penalized by the committee, a 1 loss Baylor or tcu team has no place in the playoffs.
>>63668922
FSU lost a lot of players where OSU did not. Not even close to comparable
>>63668945
Glad someone else has been saying it. I've been banned for a month and can now finally get in on the playoff debates.
>>63668943
Jimbo Fisher and Urban Meyer have a ton in common. Both don't give a shit about off the field issues and will cover things up in order to win. Same way Bowden was.
Nick Saban has won more titles than all of them and has way more integrity. He's an elite coach. They are scrubs.
>>63668943
Jimbo and Urban have a lot in common since they both are known to cover up for their players and sacrifice discipline for wins. Same as Bowden.
Nick Saban is the exact opposite. He doesn't take shit and wins the right way. And he has more titles than all of them.
>>63668958
FSU brought back 17 starters from the 2013 team.
>>63668954
Last year the Big 12 had Tennessee, Alabama, Notre Dame, BYU, Cal, Arkansas, Florida State, Auburn and Minnesota in it's OOC and still got left out of the cfp. There is no reason to schedule like that if we have to go undefeated in conference to win a playoff bid.
>>63668997
2010 Bama team returned a lot of starters. Literally everybody we played took a bye week before they played us.
>>63668997
OSU isn't literally coming a play or two from losing to 5-7 teams every week, I'm not worried about them
>>63668865
aren't there any football players at UCLA that come from well off families? I could see them having their dad buy the whole team stuff so they could chill together. I mean, rosen put a ghetto hot tub in his apartment right? apparently comfy is more important than football at UCLA
>>63669039
I'm an Alabama fan. I'm just trying to explain to the delusional guy why people are shitting on OSU.
>>63669039
only returned 2 on Defense that year though
>>63667984
>Michigan Not being in "Implying Tier"
1/2 National Championship in SIXTY SEVEN (67) YEARS (Terra orbital period).
While Ohio state has won 7 National championships in the Last 61 years.
>>63668997
But the players they lost were:
Kelvin Benjamin
Davonta Freeman
Timmy Jernigan
Terrence Brooks
LaMarcus Joyner
Telvin Smith
That's four All-Americans and 5 All-ACC players.
In other words, nobody who stayed was any fucking good.
>>63668961
>>63668989
Dial it down a little, don't make the bait too obvious...Had me until
>Nick Saban has way more integrity.
>yfw "t"OSU is btfo by both MSU and Michigan
>>63669171
>MSU's injured ass team
>Michigan's talentless ass team
>having even the slightest of chances
yeah, right
>>63669114
Oh and for OSU, they lost just two second team All-Big Ten players, one who was not seeing the majority of the snaps at their position anymore, and an All-Big Ten honorable mention.
How awesome would it be if we could get all the bluebloods in a plane and fly it straight into a mountain.
>>63669280
Impossible, the Ivy's only drive.
>>63669280
>hates Bluebloods
Kek Oregon fan detected
>>63667099
>mfw I saw this thread edition
>>63669186
>Michigan
>talentless
I take it you haven't followed Michigan football the past few years? They've had the talent of a top 10 team for a while now their problem was Hoke was an absolute shit coach. The fact that when Harbaugh stepped in and they were immediately much better is a testament to that
>people still think OK State will lose to Baylor
Really?
>>63668103
i still don't know why you think ND has to join a conference. I could see the argument if there were only 4 conferences and 4 spots, but there aren't. I could see if every other conference had a CG, but they don't. You also managed to ignore ND's win over Stanford in this scenario. Other than OKST, I don't think Baylor and TCU with their backup QBs are really definitively better wins than ND's wins over USC and Navy. They also have a common opponent with very different outcomes.
You just sound like a butthurt babby.
>>63668616
>not liking the snow
>not having a childhood
bolts rangers game thread????????????????????????
>>63668328
maybe in forums, but the committee has admitted they look at opponent records as part of their ranking system.
>>63668487
WVU, TTU, and UT aren't better than USC.
>>63668564
that wasn't an isolated variable last year.
>>63668871
they will lose to Auburn
>mfw FSU beats UF
>mfw UF beats Bama
>mfw we don't even have to deal with SECfags in the CFP
>>63670113
>>63670087
I like how most of the anti-sec fags want other schools to knock out Bama, rather than their own. Because they know that even if the schedules were changed today, and they got a matchup, they wouldn't win.
>>63668961
>>63668989
>Nick "waaaaaaah there has to be some reason we lost because I'm a poopy whiner doo-doo diaper butt baby" Saban having more integrity
>>63670004
go back to your mad at sandwich general
>>63670145
i'm getting deja vu. I feel like i heard this exact same shit one year ago or so. And also the year before that.
>>63669032
get a conference championship retards
>>63670113
...and then the delusional lardass from an irrelevant flyover state woke up from his wet dream.
>>63670170
>the northeast
>flyover state
also,
>sec retards calling other people lardasses
>sec retards calling other people delusional
>>63669280
>his school isn't a blueblood
>his school will NEVER win a natty
>he hasn't killed himself yet!
>>63669305
>not using the same left shark pepe you used 5 times in the last thread
>the Eastern most region of the Carolinas
How did the SEC convince Vandy to associate with them? Also, vice versa.
Did each side just agree to compromise their core characteristics to add in some flavor?
>>63670254
baseball
>>63670273
i guess that actually does generate interest and revenue down there. Can't believe that actually moves the needle.
Hey guys, I have a question that I think you guys might be helpful with.
I'm working on a project for a programming class. The project must deal with data analysis and file input. My plan is to have the user input two CFB teams and the script would then spit out the predicted winner after analyzing the two different spreadsheets. The hard part here is trying to nail down the prediction model. That's where I need your help.
I've been playing around with cfbstats.com and I have my code importing the Team Stats into a spreadsheet pretty nicely. In theory I would go through the criteria and assign points to each team based on which one checked the criteria. Team with the most points is the predicted winner. Or something like that.
So any advice for a model (based on cfbstats.com, example LINK , or offer me a better stats site)is welcome. This won't be fool proof by any means, but maybe 60-70%?
Straight up, not ATS.
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/110707/dull-football-weekend-a-great-time-for-a-fall-wedding-in-alabama
the state of alabama looks worse every day
>>63670340
>>>/bet/
>>63670340
How would you account for every QB /kliff/ Kingsbury has ever touched being a heisman winning god?
Do you have some sort of program that accounts for that?
>>63670340
>>63670340
Screw that, predict the playoffs by using My Team is Better than Your Team
Have your program start with any team. Then run My Team is better than Your team with that team as My Team. For every team. Then repeat this process for every team. compile all the data into a 60gb spreadsheet. Then have your program assign a weight to each team based on the total number of transitive jumps it took to beat every team. The more jumps it took, the lower the team's initial ranking.
>the exact center of Florida
>>63670439
>Tech fags have nothing, so they claim Baker Gayfield as their own
>>63670569
>Most overall yards from a QB in the country
>Nothing
Vincent Testaverde spend a year with him and left too, and we know he has the Heisman gene.
The tech Qb's will dominate Heisman voting for awhile. No matter where they are.
He may even put up the top 3 candidates in one year.
>>63670233
tru senpai my b
>>63670569
>implying Basedfield isn't going to win the Heisman
>>63670788
I think everyone is implying that, including the people who decide the heisman.
>head to head heisman candidate match up
>Fournette vs. Henry
>Fournette 31 yards
>Henry 210 yards
Henry is winning the heisman bitch ass nigga
>>63671019
meant for this cum guzzler #2>>63670788
>>63671019
FAKE INGRAM HEAD@$$
>mfw Tennessee running back tandem
Weekly reminder Iowa will keep winning and there is not a fucking thing you can do about it.
>>63671419
>daily reminder that they still won't get into the playoff.
Enjoy the Hot Pocket Bowl.
ucf is not very good
>>63671563
East Carolina is doing to UCF what i do to teams in Dynasty mode in NCAA 14 when i have recruits visiting
>>63671563
>tfw you put a cheeky fiver on UCF winning the American
>>63670788
>Implying the twenty year Heisman cycle doesn't exist
>Implying an Ohio State running back wont win the Heisman like Eddie, Archie, and Hop-along did
shiggy shagggy diggy do
>>63667487
>Washington has more chips than Oregon, Oregon State and Wazzu combined
feels good to be relevant
>>63670952
Henry isn't as valuable to his team as much as Zeke is. Any Alabama running back can be successful when they always have a star offensive line. That's why out of all of Alabama's history, only one player has one the Heisman, and all of Saban's memebacks since Ingram haven't won anything. Zeke is a proven runner, only having fewer yards than Henry do to the difference in carries. Zeke is also a fantastic blocker and capable receiver. Elliott is the one part of tOSU's lackluster offensive production that has remained steady through all of the quarterback drama. He really is the greatest player in the nation, and probably the most deserving of the award.
>>63670168
Then we have to add teams. You can't do round robin and a title game, it's a guaranteed rematch and a 1/1 game tie between two teams doesn't solve anything.
>>63672042
I agree with everything you said but Henry is still the only offensive weapon on that team. His Qbs and wideouts are trash which is why his O line gets even more respect. They have to fight through 9 in the box on every play because the safeties don't respect Coker's arm.
A balanced team like OU, ND, or Clemson would sphincter wreck Bama.
Although I think Bama could probably run all over Clemson
>>63672220
Then fucking add teams. Stop letting Texas cock-slap everyone in the conference so hard it prevents them from making their own decisions. Add Houston and Memphis.
>>63670681
>Most overall yards from a QB in the country
'no'. That would go to Matt Johnson.
>>63672538
>>63672538
I would love to add Houston. That is a great university, a great campus, and Herman is already getting a raise to 3 million, making him the highest paid G5 coach. UH board wasn't about to let him get away the way Sumlin and Briles did.
>>63672538
>Houston and Memphis
>2 glorified community college
Nah, family we'll add BYU and Navy instead
>>63672669
BYU wont join a conference.
>>63672730
>Muh Notre Dame of the west
You mean they won't join a G5 conference
this is the worst football sunday ever
347th for go gators
>>63667955
:( tfw i got out of my way to deprecate my own team and noone gives me props
>>63673462
>non name fag and name fag make similar posts.
>non name fag post is respected.
>name fag post is ignored.
What's the lesson here senpai? I'm giving you this one chance, and now I'm going back to ignoring you.
I think what a lot of people are forgetting about is that the committee looks for improvement over the season, and might think Oklahoma has improved beyond the point of Notre Dame, who themselves have had injuries, So even if you think the bootyblasters would bootyblast Oklahoma personally, you should probably recognize that the committee thinks in terms of "now"
Also, this week is a trap game. After the big win Oklahoma gets complacent, eyes its instate rivals, and Treyvon boykin lights up for 600.
>>63673514
tripfagging makes people jealous? idk man, racking my okie brain
>>63669060
that would be a violation. matt leinert and dwayne jarrett lived in an apt that leinert's parents rented and that was considered a violation somehow
>>63673935
Boykin isn't smoking anyone on a bum ankle and without Doctson they have no chance.
Who /readyfornextweek/ here?
Seriously though, fuck this week
>>63675855
Im a Stanford fan until the end of the regular season
>>63676068
technically shouldnt you want them to lose to cal then beat nd
>>63676068
Same, Notre Dame is one of those teams that should just be erased from the NCAA.
>>63676216
i think they're effectively out, at least not over Oklahoma, but maybe you're right. Bowling Green fan then...
>>63676461
i just meant so the stanford loss will look a little bit worse for ND
>>63676496
Im just here for Oklahoma, Notre dame can do whatever they want as long as they are under our feet. Actually, I take that back, fuck notre dame
>>63667814
Second
>>63671552
>the fucking Rose Bowl is something to sneer at
Dude
>tfw want to go find my NCAA Football 14
>tfw don't know where to look
>tfw it's cold
>tfw not very comfy
>>63676824
So get /comfy/ man throw on some sweats and grab a beer.
>You're one of the captains
>You put your heart and soul into every practice, every weight lifting session, every film room viewing, and every minute of every game week after week
>one of 3 players on the team that actually has passion for the game
>but you happen to be part of this team
>it's your senior year
You know for a damn fact that there's several players in this situation, right now.
I can't imagine how they must feel.
>>63668588
>implying your players from literally where could survive the florida heat
>implying someone other than a gator would get out of the swamp alive
>>63668650
>were not irrelevant we have snow
If I wanted the snow I would live in the northeast. The midwest has literally nothing that you can't get better somewhere else.
>>63676983
I just got out of a feels thread on /b/ so this make me cry
>>63677014
The featureless landscape and dull way of life seem to produce a sense of serenity that affects most folks native to the area. Life is simple, the weather is fickle, and you support the football team.
It's why Nebraska fans are so nice.
>Inb4 Iowa loses to "Literally Who" Purdue because muh midwest snow
>>63675855
Still haven't made a new trip? The Georgia Tech game was a whIle ago.
>>63677083
Can we expect so some snow saturday? Damn I love the snow games.
>>63676983
>lost to FIU and Furman
>playing Stanford and South Carolina 2 years after Bortles
Who /LOSINGSENIORSHERE/?
>>63677409
They are calling 3-7 inches Friday night into Saturday morning here in Cedar Rapids (30 mins north of Iowa City) i think most of Johnson County sits in the 2-5 inch band
>>63677409
>>63677629
Just rechecked the forecasting models. Iowa City is sitting in a 6-8 inch snow band with snow ending early Saturday afternoon.
>TFW Oregon - USC means one team's season was a failure and one team's season was only mildly disappointing
>>63667551
Yep, people that don't know anything about college football don't know the Sooners. People that actually know college football know that they've been an impressive blue blood team for a century.
>>63668763
OU-Nebraska used to be a huge rivalry, they just switched conferences. I would love to have it back.
>>63677035
Nebraska fans are great, please come back and play OU every year again, we miss you ;_;
>>63677675
Purdue already bad at running the ball and stopping the run.
Will Iowa rush for 300 yards tomorrow?
>>63678451
Most delusional post desu.
Blueblood schools achieve name recognition by nature of their success.
>>63678451
>>63678729
Adding to this: If your team can be introduced as "yeah, my team is pretty good, but you probably haven't heard of their past successes", they aren't a blueblood.You're just a college football hipster.
>>63678729
>Oklahoma
>not successful
lmao
>>63678781
It's successful in the same way that Wisconsin or Michigan are. Generally win enough to go to a bowl game. But not a blueblooded program that's routinely in contention for the National Championship.
Are we seriously arguing if Oklahoma is a blueblood or is this just bantz and shitposting? I can't really tell the difference desu
>arguing over bloo bloodz
>dont include schools with 20+ nattys
This is how I know you're all fucking retarded. You should be afforded no opinion on the matter.
>>63678897
/cfb/ is literally 100% shitposting
I am 21 years old and an upper classmen in college. Let me name you some blueblood programs that have never been relevant in my entire football life
>Nebraska
>Penn State
>Colorado(?)
>Tennessee
>>63678948
Princeton?
Really?
>>63678963
Only one if those is a bloo blood.
Tenneesee will never be relevant again now that faggot Bud Adams and the Titans stole their market.
>>63678970
>Acting like based Yale doesn't have as many nattys
>>63679005
>Ivyleagueeducation
Come on m8, I'm just here to shitpost.
>>63678963
>>Penn State
>being born before 1994
>dying in 2005 only to be recuscitated a year later, and again between 2008-2009
>Tennessee
>not being alive for 1998, Peyton Manning, and the early 2000s
>Nebraska
>not being alive 1994,1995, and 1997
Soubds like you are either actually 12 or actually know nothing about college football at all
Alright lads, It's time to have a talk about Christian McCaffrey
>>63679038
He's actually shit and was shut the fuck down by the only team Stanford played that was even remotely competent. His success is nothing but a reflection of just how bad the Pac lel is. If he was in the B1G, he would not start on a single team. If he was in the SEC, he would not start on a single team. If he was in the ACC, he would not start on half the teams. If he was in the Big 12, he would not start at several schools. If he was in the AAC, he still probably wouldn't be guaranteed a starting spot.
/discussion. Thanks for playing.
>>63679070
Actually, to be fair, though, I think by the time he's a senior he will be a good back. He's not at all close to there yet though.
Christian McCaffrey is a god damn freak of nature.
I saw it with my own eyes before.
I have never been burned like he burned me before. Before puberty is he was athletically superior to his brother.
I competed around a bunch of athletes that played/are currently playing D1 sports, some at very fucking high levels. I have seen some freak natural ability athletes. But nothing like him.
Before I knew he was Ed McCaffrey's son, he tore shit up.
He will be the white RB hope.
>>63679080
>>63679070
Though no, he is not at his peak yet. I would not be surprised seeing 2k+ yard seasons from him in the PAC 12 in the future.
I had no idea how really good he really was when I was younger. But since I have people to compare him to now that are also currently competing at a college level. He should fucking dominate.
>>63679027
Pretty sure Penn State's wins don't count, since they were accomplished through the cheating powers of pedophilia.
[spoiler]I really really really hate penn state fans, for their hero worship of Paterno.[/spoiler]
>>63679115
Do you want me to do a top 10 RBs this year + McCaffrey and my past player comparison for each?
>>63679137
Do it.
Although. I'm not trying to say he's the greatest back this season. But I think he will be up there the next 2 years.
>>63679122
Sandusky didn't want to molest those children. It was all part of a black magic ritual sacrifice to the demons of college football to get Joe Pa's teams the NC's they had earned but not gotten credit for.
>>63677022
>tripfag browses /b/
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!
>>63677409
>tfw too warm in Ohio to snow on Saturday
>tfw no snow game this year
>>63678963
>Colorado ever being considered a blueblood
coach Mac left several years ago m8
WHARE THE FUCK IS MY RB COMPARISON!!!!
you have ten seconds to convince me that Texas A&M will beat Vanderbilt this Saturday
>Proptip: you can't
>>63679147
1a) Ezekiel Elliott
Fast as fuck, but mostly a one-cut back that absolutely refuses to go down. Wants to be thought of as the second coming of Beanie Wells, but I think he's actually better than Wells.
>past comparison: Eddie George and Thomas Jones when he was in the NFL
1b) Derrick Henry
Power runner, but one of the best at it. Fucking huge and beastly, impossible to bring down
>past player comparison: NFL Brandon Jacobs when he was good.
2) Jordan Howard
His stats aren't up with the others because he missed a couple games, but Howard is an unstoppable force when he's playing. Shredded elite defenses at Michigan and OSU before he went down with the injury, behind the shitty O line at Indiana. His big concern is his lack of top end speed.
>past player comparison: former Indiana running back Tevin Coleman
3) Dalvin Cook
Explosive and versatile. Has really come on this year. Biggest concern is that off the field he's an incredibly massive piece of shit, like Lawrence Philips levels of shithead thug.
>past player comparison: former FSU product Davonta Freeman with a higher ceiling.
4) Leonard Fournette
Dominates against shit defense but shows up weak against strong defense. Maybe a year away from really breaking out.
>comparison: Shitty version of Marshawn Lynch
5) Samaje Perine
Can really go off in a game if needed but Oklahoma doesn't always rely on him.
>comparison: bigger Maurice Jones-Drew
Cont.
>>63679437
6) Larry Rose III
Doesn't get much attention because NMSU, but should
>comparison: college Matt Forte
7) Royce Freeman
Literally the second coming of Jonathan Stewart and the embodiment of everything that entails
>comparison: Jonathan Stewart
8) Alex Collins
All the talent in the world, but has turnover issues and is pretty dumb. It's telling that Bielema, who has had many great college backs play for him, has not been high on him, despite a lot of success.
>comparison: Cedric Benson (on the Bears, not in college)
9) Matt Breida
Plays at Georgia Southern, but is dominating at unheard of levels. YPC is insane. Too small to succeed in the NFL
>comparison: Garrett Wolfe
10) Christian McCaffrey
Not quite there yet, but is developing nicely as a back. Another year or two away from taking the league by storm, although he is dominating right now due to shit Pac 12 play.
>>63679280
Sorry I actually had to do work at work weirdly enough
We In
>GO POKES!
How many quarters does Conner Cook last against Ohio State's D-line?
>>63677409
There will be a snow bowl between Wiscy and Northwestern. Should be fun
>>63679472
Cook has been historically great against OSU's defense, but I think this is the year the lack of talent around him and the shit O line combined with the emergence of Tyquan Lewis and Sammy Hubbard will be too much for Cook to handle and he'll get tossed around like crazy.
Bosa is elite, we all know that, but Lewis and Hubbard are both easily future top 10 NFL picks when their time comes. Lewis legitimately might be better than Bosa.
>>63679437
>>63679447
Why do college coaches influence a runners style so much?
Doe sit have to do with the scheme? What they think is "best". Or are they recruiting the same shit from the same places?
>>63679447
Oh fuck, McCaffrey's comparison is Glyn Milburn
>>63679513
A lot of it is that the players see past players that had success there, and choose to go to a program that someone with a similar skillset has succeeded. It's why Elliott, Clarett, Wells, and Eddie George were all similar in their running styles, despite being from 3 totally different coaching staffs and in 3 different offensive schemes.
Another reason is that recruiting pipelines often feature the same high schools that send players already trained in a certain style of play, such as Ted Ginn Sr's boys from Glenville at Ohio State (though Cardale and Troy Smith are rather exceptionally different types of QB).
Another is simply coaching scheme. Bielema runs a crazy heavy ground attack, for example, and it leads to him getting power run backs like Gordon and Ball, along with stupid massive retarded linemen like Gabe Carimi
>>63679493
I think Sparty will spend too much time trying to prevent Bosa, that Lewis, Washington, and Hubbard will cause hell for Cook.
>>63679569
Whats the best style of running for the NFL right now?
Excluding Adrian Peterson.
Has OU&Stoops produced the best backs? tOSU is up there. Bama maybe?
Is this due to blooblood recruiting magic? What makes these players better in the NFL?
>>63678963
Tennessee lost the natty in 98 and won it in 99
Nebraska won the natty in 96 and 98, and also won another BCS bowl in december 96. Then they lost the natty in 2002.
I'm not sure how you define relevance, but I would imagine playing for and winning nattys is pretty relevant. Unless you somehow aged 21 years since 2002.
>>63679659
All of the Alabama backs have been able to land a draft pick, however, only Mark Ingram has managed to maintain a decent career. Lacey was decent until this season.
>>63679659
It seems like teams in NFL want to rotate between a running back that runs strictly between the tackles and gains short yardage, and another back that is used for receiving.
>>63679754
Yes, depending on the team.
They're also using powerback/cutback "quick back" whatever you wanna call it. And just throwing to them more.
I don't know which style is better. Chip kelley Uses a power, off tackle, and "flat"back and passes to two of them.
I have no idea which is better. But I like to see powerbacks replacing fullbacks for short yardage scenarios.
>>63679725
Yeldon looks like he could at least be ingram level.
>>63679659
Honestly? Matt Forte is the ideal NFL back these days. Everyone else has a short burst of success, then gets worn down and fades, or has to deal with injuries. Forte has been consistently good since entering the league and despite a fairly heavy workload as the only Back in Chicago, doesn't show any signs of slowing down.
He's a strong receiver, great blocker, and he runs really smart, taking care to avoid taking a beating so he can continue taking a high workload without getting worn down. You don’t see many smart backs like that, but I think that style is the key to a prolonged NFL career.
In college right now, I think Larry Rose III and Zeke will probably be the two that are able to have a sustainably long NFL career. Henry and Cook will be great for a few years, then fade as they take a beating, and I don't think Fournette is actually good enough to succeed at the next level.
UNC is making the playoffs, family
>>63679863
>unironically losing to the worst team in the SEC
>>63679832
Zeke seems like the top back for the NFL even if he isn't the rushing leader. He may be the best offensive weapon in the draft assuming he enters it.
But with the emergence of the checkdown league. Would a back with McCaffery's style(Not him necessarily) be able to thrive in the NFL? I wouldn't have thought so 5 years ago, but things have changed.
>>63679863
Literally impossible. Will not happen. There is not enough things that can happen to cause this to occur. There will be a one loss-undefeated Big 12 champ this year, an alternative outcome is not possible. Bama or Florida will have minimum 2 losses. B1G champ will have minimum two losses. Houston will probably be undefeated, and there will be a one or two loss At Large team.
UNC can't get in over any of those things. They probably can't get in over a Pac 12 champ with 3 losses.
>>63679899
I see McCaffrey being able to be a role player, like a 3rd down back or a change of pace guy.
>>63679863
those 2 FCS games fucked you senpai
>>63679923
Do you think more teams will start drafting backs to pass to?
Fortes, Petersons, and Murrays are a good tool. but not everyone can have them. Will the shift to this happen?
>>63679953
Probably. Danny Woodhead has been the spearhead of the receiving back movement, and his success as primarily a receiving back I think has been causing teams to look for those types of guys to have for a change of pace.
>>63679976
I have to pick between diggs and crabtree to start in fantasy.
Do I start either? Or go balls out, pick up Welker and start him?
>>63680018
Wrong thread brah.
Go with none, pick up Ka'Deem Carey for the Bears, that migga is gonna get three fluke TDs against Denver and be the best fluke fantasy start ever.
I'm from the future trust my advice.
>>63679659
A back has to be strong enough to take the hits at the line of scrimmage, fast enough to out run at least 8/11's of a defense, he has to be shifty with great vision and he has to be a solid down hill runner (none of this arm tackle will get you down bullshit).
Alabama's running backs are exactly none of those.
>>63680018
I'm reluctantly starting Diggs this week due to having like 3 WRs on a bye. Last week he received an abnormally small amount of targets (but only because they barely passed the ball) and he still made 50 yards of it.
>>63678883
>Oklahoma and Michigan
>not bluebloods
Fuck off desu senpai
>>63678897
Gotta be bantz nobody is that stupid
>>63679863
>no ranked teams played
>most of those teams are .500 or under
>losing to SCAR
>>63680513
They could literally aet the record for most points in a game against Clemson while Clemson is #1 and still not get in. Exhibit A B C D and E on why you don't schedule two fucking FCS schools and Illinois if you play in the ACC Coastal
>>63680538
This desu senpai, UNC is effectively out.
>>63680356
>mfw I might actually do this
With Mark Ingram out this week I was starting Latavius and Ryan Mathews, but I just Mathews is now out (>glassthews) for Sunday. With trades not going through until after this weeks games my choices are to either start Melvin Gordon or pick up Carey (waiver wire absolutely barren at RB). Should I actually go for it and hope for a fluke game?
This week is an absolute must win, playing the #1 guy who has scored like the 9th most points all season and just keeps getting lucky.
>one of those talking head faggots on the champ drive app picked Conn over Houston
My theory is that he wants other people to bet stupidly so he makes more money after the inevitable Coogs win
>tfw there is no /CBB/ thread
Are people who aren't current students, alumni, or perhaps immediate family of the former two allowed to be legitimate fans of a college team? I feel like I meet lots of fans that have never even been to college, much less the one they cheer for.
>>63678544
I hope so... I hope Purdue just keeps fumbling all day. Iowas been pretty good with forcing turnovers this year, add snow and it could get ugly.
>>63680735
Because it's irrelevant until March
>>63680740
If you're employed by the university, yeah. I know a lot of people who grew up Canes fans because of family but went to some small school (without an athletics program or D3) and are still Canes fans, don't see anything really wrong with it so long as you're loyal.
>>63680735
Atta boy Frenchy!
>GO POKES!
>>63680740
OFFICIAL LEGITIMATE CFB FAN POWER RANKINGS:
1a. Alumni
1b. Current Students
POWER GAP
9. University Employees (including faculty)
POWER GAP
99. Immediate family members of 1a
POWER GAP
999. Immediate family members of 1b
POWER VALLEY
999999999999999999999999999. Bought a t-shirt at Walmart
>>63680821
What about former player? I was recruited by Ohio State and could have started but I blew my knee out. Probably could have gone pro too.
>>63680740
What if you're from a shithole town that only has a college
>>63680821
What about being a janitor at USF?
>>63680844
Former players are in 1a tier.
If you were just recruited but didn't attend then you are still in 999999999999999999999999999 tier.
Ohio State has had an unbelievable 4 year run here, and may cap this year off with a title, but they will come crashing to earth next season. Yes, their roster is still young, but I don't think any of them are staying, do you? Here's their starting roster:
>Offense
WR/HB: Curtis Samuel, So
WR: Michael Thomas, Jr RS, considered #1 WR prospect
WR: Jalin Marshall, So RS
WR/HB: Braxton Miller, Sr RS
LT: Taylor Decker, Sr
LG: Billy Price, So RS
C: Jacoby Boren, Sr
RG: Pat Elflein, Jr RS
RT: Chase Farris, Sr RS
TE: Nick Vannett, Sr RS
QB: JT Barrett, So RS ; Cardale Jones, Jr RS
>Defense
DE: Joey Bosa, Jr
3 Tech: Adolphus Washington, Sr
2 Tech: Joel Hale, Sr RS ; Tommy Schutt, Sr RS
DE: Tyquan Lewis, So RS ; Sammy Hubbard, Fr RS
SLB: Darron Lee, So RS
MLB: Raekwon McMillan, So
WLB: Joshua Perry, Sr
CB: Gareon Conley, So RS
CB: Eli Apple, So RS
FS: Vonn Bell, Jr
SS: Tyvis Powell, Jr RS
Yes, a lot of redshirt sophomores, but these guys are all so talented they could go in the first round if they wanted to. On Offense, you return just Curtis Samuel, Jalin Marshall, Billy Price and JT. Four guys, only one of whom is an O lineman. On defense, you return Lewis (hopefully), Hubbard, McMillan, and Conley. Possibly Powell, and slightly possibly Apple. Then the rest all go pro/graduate. This team will struggle hard next year to retool
>>63680821
>tfw alumni/former player at a D3 school
GO 'CATS
>>63680403
Ingram has the same number of broken tackles this year as AP so your last sentence is retarded.
>>63680903
You forgot Elliott, but he's going pro.
Can we take one second to observe the ridiculousness of this one recruiting class, though?
>Zeke
>JT
>Jalin Marshall
>Billy Price
>Joey Bosa
>Tyquan Lewis
>Darron Lee
>Gareon Conley
>Vonn Bell
>Eli Apple
That's as many as 7 future early round draft picks, and as many as 10 draft picks. That might be the best single class in all of cfb history. Certainly the best OSU had since 1967-1968, maybe ever
>>63667337
OSU refballed their first TD, MN had no chance beating both the buckeyes and the refs.
>>63680821
I have a couple friends who are Nebraska fans for the sole reason that they were born in Nebraska. They're bigger fans of Nebraska than they are of the college they attended.
Triggers me a little desu
>>63681054
Everyone from Nebraska is like this.
It is THIER team.
>>63680792
I forgot about employees, that makes sense. Honestly though, I don't really count anyone besides students/employees/alumni as legit fans. If you like a school that much that you'll cheer for it, just fucking apply to it and attend.
>>63680821
10/10 list
>>63680903
On offense - Curtis Samuel obviously, and Jalin Marshall will definitely be back. Their talent-to-usage ratio was way too low and they know they'll probably get more snaps next year. I don't see Billy Price being drafted any higher than the 6-7th round so I think he stays. Barrett could go either way but I think he stays another year to increase his sample size for draft scouts.
On defense - Again, obviously Raekwon will be back. I don't see Conley leaving. It sounds like Bosa wants to play one year with his brother. Tyquan Lewis and Tyvis Powell are both 50/50. Both would definitely be drafted but neither of them on the first day, it would probably be the smarter move for both to stay another year.
>>63681196
>IMLYING FUCKING ALL OF THEM DIDN'T GO THERE TO PLAY SCHOOL
SEMPAI PLS
Why are Ohio St fans so delusional? It's cult like and it isn't healthy.
>>63681243
oh troo
>>63681244
Probably because you're just a douche and just don't get it. Nerd.
>>63681244
Coach
Urban
Meyer
>>63681510
IF YOU CAN BTFO SABAN YOU'RE COOL IN MY BOOK
>>63681196
Bosa is going pro. It's just a pipe dream to have two Bosas, and one that wouldn't play out how you think it would anyways. Nick will be behind Sammy Hubbard and Tyquan Lewis for playing time, maybe even Darius Slade too, unless they move Hubbard to Darron Lee's spot. He'll be entering college recovering from a knee injury, so he's not going to see much time as a freshman.
Only way Joey stays is if that whole defensive core decides to stay for a fourth attempt at a title run
>>63681557
Sabans btfo Urban more often tho
>>63681795
Just let me have the rest of this year man, it's almost over.
>>63681795
They're both 2-2 against each other
>>63681929
Yeah but saban blew him out twice. Once in 09 sec champ game and I think the other was in 2010 @ Bryant Denny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9iBhm1ejA
Get hype niggas
>>63680869
that's a university employee, senpai
>>63681727
>Darius Slade
As a Lions fan I kek'd
I wasn't really buying the Bosa returning thing, but I saw (iirc) a direct quote from Joey a few weeks saying he would "like to play with Nick." Obviously by no means is that saying "I'm not declaring for the draft," but it was the first time I took the Bosa staying 'till he's a senior thing seriously.
On the note of Hubbard moving to LB, I think he could fill either the weak or strong side nicely. Realistically he could probably play any position other than nose or true cornerback, but I'd be willing to bet a lot that Meyer is going to experiment with him in a bunch of different positions this offseason.
>>63682355
Hello, fellow sports fan. Welcome to /sp/.
>>63682392
thanks for trying to make me feel welcome, but i've been here many years, in fact
>>63682375
I think you see Sammy and Lewis play the two End spots next year and either Nick rotating in for reps or Nick playing DT his first year on campus, what with the total lack of talent at DT behind all the seniors this year
>Everyone in /cfb/ isn't tripfagging
I LOVE semen
I really really like cum
>>63682375
>meyer is going to experiment with him in a bunch of different positions
>>63682666
TRIP UP AND START SLURPING SEMEN OR GTFO!!!
>>63682599
Tripfagging is for faggots though
>>63682698
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU TOOK A CUMSHOT FAGGOT?
>>63682720
>not having a cum hose coating yourself in semen
my picks
X-USC vs. Oregon (the ultimate meme team)
Northwestern vs. X-Wisconsin
X-MSU vs. tOSU
Baylor vs. X-Okla St.
X-OU vs. TCU
X-LSU vs. Ole Miss
UPSET OF THE WEEK
X-Cal vs. Stanford
>>63682931
>not picking against the spread
0/10 apply yourself
>>63683029
m8 oregon's favored
who else is /worried about auburn/ here? This game has trap written all over it for bama.
>>63682931
>I like being wrong, the picks
>>63682931
>MSU over OSU
HUE. You're acting like the prophecy isn't already in motion. Notre Dame/Michigan Championship. Cap it.
>>63683137
>Notre Dame/Michigan Championship
>>63683174
CAP IT
A
P
I
T
>>63682931
>>63683029
>>63683040
>>63683045
>>63683174
>THIS SAMEFAG
>>63683137
Michigan is out of the playoffs no matter what
>>63683244
3 posts early
>>63683254
autism
>>63683244
>4 posts early
>muh SEC
>no Ohio State
>no maps
>no semen
Literally the worst /cfb/ thread ever made
>>63683205
Are you fucking retarded, or do you just not watch college football? Seriously, are you a fucking semen-slurping yuro using an American proxy? Because anyone with a fucking shred of knowledge about American sports knows that Michigan is still in the playoff race, you fucking mongrel. Maybe you should use your eyes and look at the B1G standings - we can still make the conference championship game. Maybe you should also use your fucking brain and realize that the champion of the B1G (aka the champion of the best conference) will make the playoffs no matter what. No matter fucking what. Last I checked Michigan still has a 6.2% chance of winning the B1G, which means we have a 6.2% chance of winning the natty. Who's gonna stop us? Clemson? Iowa? LOL. Literally nobody. Fucking nobody.
Bluebloods:
tOSU
Michigan
Texas
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Alabama
USC
Waiting list:
Nebraska
Tennessee
25 years out if they can get their shit together right hot damn now:
Miami
>>63683315
And then there's this faggot
>[spoiler]Go Hawks[/spoiler]
>>63669280
>being this keked by the upper class
Isn't it wonderful when the peasant scum shows some fight?
>>63669280
There's ~100 players on a team, plus coaches and staff. There's 5-7 bluebloods, depending on which fan you ask. That's 600-900 people. There's not a plane big enough, dude.
>>63670163
Was that before or after the Tide got rolled in both those years?
>>63676840
>tfw you got sweatpants as a gift 5 years ago
>tfw fit perfectly still and are still the comfiest pants you own
>tfw beer, camp chair and Fallout 4 to go with it
I have transcended comfy tbqh
>>63682355
He could be another step removed, like he might be an employee of a company the university hired.
Will a Group of Five team ever make the playoff?
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