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Ohio State will lose at least 1 of the next 2 games. BOOK IT!
Find me a better duo. Pro tip, you fucking can't.
tOSU
2. Bama
3. Oklahoma
4. Clempson
5. BootyBlasters
6. Iowa
7. Houston
8. Northwest Missouri St.
9. OK St.
10. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
>>63667105
Actually it's OSU who's been getting better, Michigan is pretty much heading into opposite direction.
>>63667125
To be fair, Indiana plays everyone close, and Minnesota is better than their record indicates.
Indiana is a strange team.
>Michigan is getting better
To the guy in the last thread, since the Northwestern shutout and the 4 weeks straight giving up less than a touchdown, Michigan lost to MSU, nearly lost to Minnesota, and went into double OT against Indiana, giving up 41 points in the process. Jordan Hall and Nate Sudfeld are good, but that's still not a sign that Michigan is getting better. If anything, it looks like they peaked.
I don't even think it's a given that they beat Penn State.
>>63667167
IU is weird as fuck
>>63667128
right here
>>63667167
Regardless, OSU beat Indiana in regulation and took a big fat shit on Minnesota.
So if "Ohio State has struggled against cupcakes" is the reason why Michigan is gonna win, it just doesn't make sense since Michigan struggled even harder.
>>63667198
OSU beat minnesota by 2 scores. Comfortable, but nothing to brag about. The only big fat shit on the field that night was cardale jones.
>>63667175
OSU only beat Indiana 34-27. Don't get cocky lol
>>63667167
You are right about Indiana but wrong about Minnesota. Minnesota is dreadful and should be a one-win team. They had no business beating Kent State, Ohio, or Colorado State and won all three games on sheer dumb luck. I don't think it's a stretch to say that they're the worst team in the Big Ten besides Purdue this year.
Indiana is actually a somewhat good team, the injuries to Sudfeld and Howard derailed their season and their defense lost them games that their offense won them. They should have beaten Michigan and Buttgers.
>>63667128
>tfw switz matches the NCAA record for punt return touchdowns in Beamers last home game and then breaks the record while taking a big ole shit all over NC State.
>>63667198
>shit on Minnesota
if i recall, Minnesota had the ball and was down by 7 but threw an interception giving OSU the ball in Minnesota territory with like 2 minutes left. OSU scored in garbage time to make it a 2 score lead. bravo
>>63667227
Like I said, Indiana is better than their record indicates due to losing Howard and Sudfeld for a couple of games. We were never in danger of losing to them, where Michigan won because Indiana decided not to give Howard the ball at 4th and goal after he'd spent the whole game demolishing Michigan's defense.
Also, Elliott is a lot better a back than Howard is.
>>63667140
>chokelahoma
nope
>>63667257
OSU was up 21-0 into garbage time. Gave up two scores, Minnesota was very briefly back in the game, then OSU scored again to put them back out of reach. This was without JT.
Ohio State 34-27 Indiana
Michigan 48-41 Indiana in OT2
Ohio State 28-14 Minnesota
Michigan 29-26 Minnesota
Ohio State 49-7 Rutgers
Michigan 49-16 Rutgers
Those are their common opponents. Give me one reason why it's "probable" that Michigan wins other than "I want it to happen".
>>63667288
Good enough to get some people to bite
Not this guy
>>63667282
how is scoring 2 touchdowns and having a possession to tie the game "garbage time"? When OSU got the ball back, all they had to to was run it. For whatever reason they did a QB sneak.
>>63667288
You forgot Maryland,
OSU 49 - 28
Michigan 28 - 0
But that's hardly usable as evidence of anything
>>63667288
I said "plausible", not "probable".
I'd say a huge factor that people are dismissing is the game is in Ann Arbor.
Playing on the road is tough wherever you go.
Guess what teams these are.
Points Per Game 36.4 32.6
Points Allowed Per Game 13.8 14.8
Total Yards 453.3 393.7
Yards Passing 208.5 224.9
Yards Rushing 244.8 168.8
Yards Allowed 298.4 268.7
Pass Yards Allowed 171.6 165.5
>>63667303
West Virgina 45 - 6
>>63667316
Oklahoma - Oklahoma State?
>>63667308
Somebody in the other thread said it's "probable" the B1G cannibalizes itself, which implies tOSU losing to either MSU or UM, or both.
>>63667316
Hint: 1 has played 4 top 25 teams and the other hasn't played any.
>>63667275
>>63667297
The game was already out of hand. Minnesota never had a shot to win. Having the ball down a touchdown against OSU at the end of a game is a game you cannot win.
OSU called a QB run because they run the ball with their QBs and running backs in a zone run scheme. They just happened to call the QBs number on that particular play
>>63667316
Iowa
>>63667127
>tfw Tosu beats msu and then loses to Michigan
I can't wait for the butt hurt cries from /cfb/.
msu BTFO, Tosu BTFO, B1G BTFO, /cfb/ BTFO
>>63667316
The 1st column is OSU and the 2nd is Michigan.
>>63667332
Could just mean Iowa wins out.
>>63667316
OSU - Iowa?
>>63667316
michigan osu
>>63667308
MSU is plausible. Michigan is not. Michigan losing out is far more probable than them beating OSU. I would go so far as to say Indiana, Minnesota, and Penn State both had a more plausible chance of beating Ohio State than Michigan does
>>63667316
Alabama and Iowa?
>>63667337
Minnesota had the ball while they were 7 points down. They could have EASILY put that game into overtime with one score. After all they scored twice in the 4th pretty easily against OSU.
>>63667337
>>63667335
>>63667367
Do you know the definition of the word "plausible"?
I could understand the Michigan meme a bunch of weeks ago but not now, just fucking no.
>They only lost to Utah, which is an elite team.
Utah got exposed already and UM also lost to MSU.
>they have an elite defense, 3 shutouts in a row
They conceded 41 points to fucking Indiana and 26 against Minnesota.
I'm just not seeing it.
>>63667375
Why does some autist keep posting Oklahoma webms that nobody cares about?
>>63667377
Plausible means "seeming reasonable or possible".
Michigan beating Ohio State is totally unreasonable and completely impossible. It fails the definition of plausible.
>>63667394
The denial is strong here
ACC AND PAC SUCK A FAT DICK.
NOTRE DAME SUCKS A FAT DICK FOR ALL THEIR ACC GAMES AS WELL.
>>63667390
It is very difficult to accept that losing to one of the historically worst iterations of their bitter rival is going to keep them out of the CFP regardless of what they do. I can't blame them.
>>63667394
>If I keep repeating it then hopefully it comes true.
>>63667380
to be fair it was 34 in regulation
The think the argument lies in the fact that OSU has played a few teams close, and Michigan will be the best team they've played. Ofcourse OSU will have jt barret
>>63667394
Stats for OSU and Michigan. Michigan has played 3 teams in the top 25. OSU has played 2 teams in the top 50.
Points Per Game 36.4 32.6
Points Allowed Per Game 13.8 14.8
Total Yards 453.3 393.7
Yards Passing 208.5 224.9
Yards Rushing 244.8 168.8
Yards Allowed 298.4 268.7
Pass Yards Allowed 171.6 165.5
>>63667390
>>63667411
>all these non blue blood opinions
sigh
>>63667406
fat dicks
fat dicks everywhere
>>63667390
>>63667411
Let me explain. Beating Baylor was a pleasant surprise and it honestly made my week, and watching highlights keeps that good feeling going. His good feelings are turning into shitposting. Classic 4chan behavior
>>63667127
>>63667354
Dream on faggots.
>>63667394
How about the coaching edge, Harbaugh>urban
>>63667227
>OSU had a close game against a shit team
>but you know, Cardale was starting, and the g-
>EXCUSES! FACE IT OSU GOT EXPOSED AS FUCK AND WON'T BEAT ANYONE
>Michigan has a close game against a shit team
>b-but refball and injuries and fluke plays and luck
I honestly love the idiotic Ann Arbor double standards.
>>63667426
>Oklahoma
>blue-blood
I kek'd
College Football Bluebloods:
Texas
Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
USC
Alabama
>>63667370
Vonn Bell, Darron Lee, and Joshua Perry were all not on the field during both TD drives. The difference is 3 of the four best players on the defense.
>>63667439
I raise up the needy and punish the ignorant. I am fan of a blue blood program and because of my demonstrably higher fanhood status I have expectations placed on me, which I begrudgingly and reluctantly accept. It is the responsibility of all blue blood fans to support the brand of college football.
A clemson and an Iowa fan obviously wouldn't understand this, tis the mind of the mediocre to not understand.
ESPN Experts' Poll
Nov. 17, 2015
Name Position School Year 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Total
Derrick Henry RB Alabama Jr. 10 0 0 0 0 50
Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma Jr. 0 2 4 1 0 22
Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio State Jr. 0 3 2 1 1 21
Leonard Fournette RB LSU So. 0 3 0 2 3 19
Deshaun Watson QB Clemson So. 0 1 1 4 1 16
Dalvin Cook RB Florida State So. 0 0 1 1 2 7
Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford So. 0 1 1 0 0 7
Corey Coleman WR Baylor Jr. 0 0 0 1 2 4
Luke Falk QB Washington State So. 0 0 1 0 0 3
Keenan Reynolds QB Navy Sr. 0 0 0 0 1 1
>>63667426
you tried son, and you failed.
>>63667460
>Texas
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL no.
>>63667422
Your entire argument is that because Michigan's schedule has been harder to date than OSU's, Michigan will win.
That's fucking stupid.
>>63667487
Oh yeah, and I forgot Nebraska.
That's all though.
>>63667460
>this bait
don't fall for it guys
>>63667496
>Your entire argument is that because Michigan's schedule has been harder to date than OSU's, Michigan will win.
THAT'S LITERALLY THE CFP COMMITTEE
>>63667483
Is there anything less hood than supporting Notre Dame?
>>63667460
Texas is a blueblood and Oklahoma isn't.
>>63667460
>Texas over Oklahoma
I'm not a fan of either of them but that's just stupid
>>63667439
can't fault you for enjoying a big win.
>>63667448
How the hell is Harbaugh better? Look at their records kek. Urban is GOAT
>>63667516
maybe supporting BYU? I see your point though, and I agree.
>>63667512
The committee's job is to pick the teams most deserving, not who is going to win when they play. Rankings don't reflect presicted results. No committee member with half a brain thought Baylor would beat Oklahoma, at least I don't think so.
>>63667460
>>63667521
>>63667501
This is reddit tier bait.
>>63667521
>>63667524
They're by far the most iconic team in one of the most iconic football states. Everyone knows the longhorns (hook em, etc.), even soccer moms, whereas nobody knows who the fuck the sooners are.
>>63667548
pretending.jpeg
>>63667551
>whereas nobody knows who the fuck the sooners are.
The bait is terrible.
>>63667548
>>63667548
Nope, I'm from the east coast and you see Texas gear all over the place, but I've never seen anyone wearing OU gear.
Texas has far more name recognition and branding nationwide.
Why do people thing somebody from the Shig 12 has any chance of winning the Hiesman? Literally no defense in that enire conference.
>>63667099
In the spirit of the OP, I present to you:
OFFICIAL BLUEBOOD MEMBERSHIP:
----------------------------------------
UNDISPUTED TIER:
Alabama
USC
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Michigan
Ohio State
DISPUTED TIER:
Texas
Nebraska
Tennessee
NOT MEMBERS EVER:
Everyone Else
>>63667605
>Texas above Michigan
>Michigan isn't in dispute of being a blueblood
2/10 bait.
>>63667605
i'll just reply to it now:
>MUH TEXAXS HURR DURRR
look at the natties, son, and stfu
>>63667589
>branding is indicative of Blueblood status
Is Oregon a blueblood now?
>>63667625
No, but it bumps them up higher than their rank would be otherwise.
>>63667618
texas is tied with fucking:
georgia tech
michigan state
penn state
lsu
texas has LESS THAN
miami
nebraska
pittsburgh
NOT A BLUEBLOOD faggot
>>63667637
So basically equal to Texas?
>>63667618
her silence with regards to:
>>63667621
and
>>63667646
is the sound of her brain exploding with all that cognitive dissonance. everything she's grown up believing about texas football has been a lie. they are barely even "borderline" status, and penn state an nebraska have a stronger case for inclusion than texas
>Soonerfags think their team is more iconic than the Texas Longhorns
Oh God, the delusion.
>>63667668
>claiming some vague metric called "iconic"
>yet gets completely btfo with hard facts and numbers
stay retarded, texas
>>63667544
And what criteria do they use to determine the best teams?
Whats that phrase I keep hearing? SOS?
The SOS argument is here as long as the CFB wont shut the fuck up about it.
>>63667618
>calling a well-thought-out post bait
>your post is itself bait
>>63667668
>calling sooners delusional
>longhorns actually the most delusional of them all
since when did previously honorable texas begin using jew argument tactics?
>>63667605
How can Oklahoma be higher than Texas when 80% of the players are from Texas?
>>63667710
you forgot the jaden smith face
>>63667605
>literally no Ivy
Wow babby list rankings, cute.
>>63667681
>Oklahoma one a bunch of "titles" back in the pre-civil war era, thus they are more of a blue-blood than Texas
top lel
>>63667723
why do you keep memeing this so hard? it's been hashed and rehashed a million fucking times, but the 50 "national championships" claimed by ivies don't mean shit because they weren't playing any teams nationally, and most of those seasons were 2-4 games long. the modern game begins somewhere in the 1930-40s
>>63667710
How can any team in the United States claim to be a blue-blood over Texas when over half of their rosters are from Texas?
>>63667746
sorry you FEEL that way, but facts are facts. go to reddit and become and sjw, i feel they give more credence to feelings. sounds like more your style
>>63667762
>half of their rosters are from Texas
[CITATION FUCKING NEEDED]
if anything, half their rosters are from CA or FL, not TX.
>>63667768
>24-17
>24-17
>24-17
>24-17
>>63667551
>>63667551
OU is superior to Texas in literally every single way historically. There is no comparison. We have owned you the past 20 years. You have gone through 3 coaches in the time we've had one. We have 8 conference titles to your what? 2? I can't even remember because you literally can't compete, and OU hasn't had a season like Texas has had the past two years in literally 25 years.
>>63667746
Oklahoma has more titles than Texas since 1980 so that doesn't really make any sense unless you are false flagging to make Texas fans look stupid
>one
>they weren't playing any teams nationally
They beat every fucking team that existed.
>most of those seasons were 2-4 games long
The first 10 seasons.
What about the other 40?
fbs teams are scared of ivy ball. Just admit it.
>>63667787
>Texas fans need help looking stupid
Pretty much just a trolling free for all in this thread
>>63667693
Are you drunk? SoS is a huge factor in rankings. As it should be. It does not mean that a team is better than another team necessarily. It means they have a better resume. Clemson has a great resume but would get blasted by Ohio State or Alabama. That doesn't make OSU and Bama #1 and #2 because they're better than Clemson, because they don't have equal resumes.
Who is better =/= SoS
>>63667605
>Texas
Texas has won a championship as well as been to a championship more recently than Oklahoma, USC or Michigan yet they are somehow disputed?
>>63667175
The bettors agree. The spread has narrowed to UM -4. I'm not sure I'd take either team with that spread. I was hoping to get PSU with a few more points.
>>63667778
what is that even in response to? i'm not a oklahoma fan. the world doesn't revolve around your shitty state of texas. no one even cares about you outside of oklahoma nad texas
>>63667701
When they realize that they aren't accomplished enough on the field to be blue bloods
>>63667128
make way for the number 1 tag team rapist duo in the ncaa
>>63667803
>more recently
after reading all your pathetic attempts to defend texas as a blueblood, i think you actually just don't know what the term "blueblood" means. look it up then come back here
>>63667805
I would take msu they are getting 13.5
>>63667792
those championships were mostly awarded retroactively, nobody was even bothering to worry about who the National Champ was until the late 20's
>>63667802
It is a valid argument as long as the bowl selectors use it to rank.
It is literally how the best teams are decided.
>>63667834
I was just looking at that shit.
How about Ok State -1 vs Baylor? You gotta take OSU in that one.
>yfw 24-17
>>63667665
Not a longhorn fag. The post was more meant to degrade the scUM.
>>63667836
They beat every team in existence.
>>63667853
>35-45
>Texas fans think head-to-head can be used to break a three way tie
>>63667837
Rankings do not mean best teams, the mean teams that have proven the most. That is not the same thing. Nobody is deciding the 4 best teams in the nation, they are picking the 4 most deserving.
I don't know why you can't tell the difference between the two concepts. Being ranked higher than another team doesn't mean that you are better than that team.
Red River Rivalry Wins:
Texas: 61
Oklahoma: 44
kek
>>63667848
Seems like a pickem I don't know Big 12 like the B1G, but would probably pick Ok State -1.
>>63667853
>>63667853
Considering your coach was on the verge of being fired I don't blame you for celebrating an OU win likes it the super bowl.
I don't know how Brown wasn't fired after losing a fourth time by a near 40+ point margin.
Oh, and two of the last three times we've lost to Texas we went on to play for in a NY6 bowl or better.
>>63667874
>I don't know why you can't tell the difference between the two concepts.
It never worked that way and no one will ever accept it that way.
>>63667853
>>63667823
>>63667803
>>63667778
Friendly reminder that despite beating OU 45-35, the nation recognized that Texas was still inferior and did not deserve to be advanced to the Nattie. Tis the price you pay for not being a blueblood.
>>63667316
POST THE ANSWER FAGGOT
my guess is bama and osu
>>63667876
>leather helmet wins
Texas is 40-35-3 against Oklahoma in the poll era
>>63667605
As a Nebraska fan, I definitely think they should be in the DISPUTED TIER at this point, but at the same time they are leagues above Texas and Tennessee.
Also, if you put Nebraska in the DISPUTED TIER you would have to put Michigan down there too, because they have as long of a title drought as us.
OFFICIAL BLUEBOOD MEMBERSHIP:
----------------------------------------
UNDISPUTED TIER:
Alabama
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma
USC
DISPUTED TIER:
Nebraska
Michigan
>"IMPLYING" TIER
FSU
Miama
Texas
Tennessee
NOT MEMBERS EVER:
Everyone Else
>>63667931
I would put Florida in the implying tier
>>63667931
>As a Nebraska fan, I definitely think they should be in the DISPUTED TIER at this point
god, why are nebraska fans always such bros? it's like they are going out of their way to be reasonable and likable
>>63667902
bysytander just kinda following this debate, I can't help looking at this image and seeing that UT beat OU three times when they were lower ranked, but OU never beat UT as the lower ranked team.
>>63667316
>>63667949
Not even. No history outside of Spurrier and Urbz.
>>63667949
hahahaha fucking why?
florida, along with the rest of the sec, belongs in the NOT MEMBERS EVER category. quit trying to sneak your way in the back door
>>63667965
>>63667316
>>63667927
>Texas is 40-35-3 against Oklahoma in the poll era
So they're still 5 games worse.
>>63667931
>DISPUTED TIER:
>Michigan
LEL
Remember that one guy who kept saying that Illinois will take it to the BTCCG
Blue blood discussion just brings out the best shitposting in all of us.
>>63667956
I don't know why that happens and I don't care. If losing to Texas means we win every game then so be it, and frankly, because of TCU and Baylor's pussy OOC schedules we really need Texas to get their shit together so the conference can actually be respected again. When only one of OU or Texas is competitive it really does hurt the other one.
>>63667955
hey, thanks bro. :^)
If the three of the four teams end up being Clemson, Bama, and Ohio State/Iowa, then do you take an 11-1 Notre Dame who has wins over Stanford, Temple, and Navy and a loss to Clemson; or an 11-1 Oklahoma who has wins over TCU, Baylor, and Oklahoma State and a loss to Texas?
>>63667982
really should only be 4
>>63667955
>Michigan not a blue-blood
>reasonable
OU faggots should be banned from this board. Nothing but shitposting and webms nobody gives a fuck about from their end t b h.
>>63668006
TTech will take their spot.
>>63668019
I take Oklahoma
>>63668035
And I should not have sexual intercourse with your mother on a nightly basis but da pussy is too sweet.
>>63668019
Oklahoma has much better wins and a much worse loss.
I think OU deserves to be because the quality of wins has more to do with how you're playing, especially late in the season.
ND still has to beat a Stanford team that is a 60/40 favorite over them
>>63668019
You move ND to 3 and make Bama 4
>>63668069
This. Stanford is not a top 10 team and OU will have beaten multiple top 10 wins to ND's 0. Not to mention ND's entire resume is dependent on the 24th ranked team staying there.
>>63668069
They'll beat Stanford.
They've been a paper tiger since Harbaugh left.
>>63668019
Fuck Notre Dame, they need to join a conference or die
I think Oklahoma would get in over them because they would be a conference champion and their wins would be leagues better than fucking Temple and Navy.
But that's implying Choklahoma doesn't choke against TCU or Okie State
>>63668019
if Tulsa beats Navy then ND takes a pretty big blow
>>63668091
>>63668103
>OU excuses intensifies
if the ACC, SEC, and B1G champions all get in again and the XII champion misses out again, will that mean we might finally see a real push for it to get to 12 teams for the CCG? or will it just be more offseason chatter that never amounts to anything
>>63668116
Big 12 is arena football tier and is a joke in /cfb/.
>muh 55-48 shootouts every week
>>63668116
This season is shaping up to be ACC, SEC, B1G and Big 12 champs going to the CFP
Pac 12 cannibalized itself again and no way is an independent getting in over a conference champ
>>63667988
Remember that one guy with some crazy flag I've never heard of who kept thinking Maryland would be good?
>>63668019
ND also handily beat USC, who could also still win the PAC-12. Also Pitt is going to be top 25 soon.
OU fags in this thread getting BTFO
How'd the Red River Rivalry game go for y'all this year?
>staymad
>>63668162
>Also Pitt is going to be top 25 soon.
They're not gonna be ranked even if they win out
>>63668178
I wish my team lost to the #1 team.....
>>63668178
Least our best player didn't fake his fake girlfriend's death before the nattie, completely derailing the team in the process
>>63668191
Winning tough games and dropping a trap game >>>> losing to the best team on your schedule
Quality win > quality loss
>>63668157
well it's not just "any" independent, it's blue blood notre dame.
for that matter, what about the reverse hypothetical? if ND can't get into the CFP even with a good season just because they're independent, will that lead to a real push for them to join a conference or just more offseason chatter that never amounts to anything?
>>63668192
>fake his fake girlfriend's death
Someone has to make a movie out of this, Rudy 2.
>>63668212
Except, ND has more quality wins than you
>but MUH BIGXII competition
talk to me when they play a team that actually can field a defense
>>63668214
>ND joins the Big 12, and Texas comes back on line
>OU, Texas, and ND spend the next decade terrorizing the Pac 12, Big 10, and SEC
Holy fuck that would be glorious
>>63668271
TTU held Arkansas to under 30 points. Arkansas put 50 on Ole Miss. Ole Miss beat Bama.
Thanks for playing nigger but we smashed TTU. If Tulsa beat Navy or Temple loses again your season is over.
>having a seasno dependent on a navy win
Holy fuck are we even having this conversation
>>63668214
How is this a good season for ND, I mean, if they win out at 11-1, their only quality wins are over USC and Stanford, and no Navy and Temple are not quality wins they are Go5 scrubs.
if they end up 10-2, their only quality win would be over USC and they would have lost their two biggest games on their schedule. That wouldn't be a good season win all you play is a cupcake-tier acc-like schedule
if they had ended up at 12-0, then yeah I think they would have gotten in to the CFP, especially over the ACC champion if it was Clemson
They already join the ACC in other sports, they should just fuck off and join them in football already.
>quality loss
Has there ever been a more c ucked measurement? That's like saying "my wife is getting fucked by a nigger, but at least his cock is big"
People who defend Quality of Loss should be ashamed of themselves
>>63668294
After they lose to Houston at home they either have to put Houston top 10, or ND doesn't have a quality win.
>Unless
G5 wins are only quality wins if you're Notre Dame.
>>63668274
Texas would block the fuck out of ND potentially joining.
ND to the B1G makes the most sense, geographically and historically.
But they would most likely end up in the ACC if anywhere, but I doubt they'll join a conference anytime soon.
>>63668271
>/cfb/ logic
Navy shit on Memephis, who shit on Ole Miss. Ole Miss beat bama, therefore ND is better than Bama
>>63668271
They won't by season's end. When your argument for your SoS is Navy you already lost the argument
>>63668231
Fuck Rudy. What a goddamned cunt nugget. I would have beaten the fuck out of that little piece of shit too if I were the starting offensive line.
>>63668324
meant for
>>63668294
>>63668322
>Texas would block the fuck out of ND potentially joining.
No they'd just make Houston the other team added.
>>63668299
Texas and USC imploding really hurt ND. How bad is that schedule that fucking Navy is anchoring it
>>63668324
>(you) logic
the transitive property does not work that way
Notre Dame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oklahoma
From the eye test.
>>63668334
ND is better than Bama, but not OU. The argument is for who deserves to be in and I'm sorry but the strength of your argument resides on almost but NOT beating Clemson and hoping a military academy and a Go5 school have strong finishes.
Admit it bro, if you were any other team you would be sitting where UNC is.
>ND's best win is fucking Temple
>>63668396
Navy, but still sad
>>63668309
Maybe it is a chuckold measurement, but it makes sense to use.
Let's say hypothetically that ND and Oklahoma both win out and they are 11-1. For the sake of argument, let's just say that they both have equal SoS and number of Quality wins. How would you decide between the two to pick the last 4th team to get in?
Well, Oklahoma lost to a Texas team with a losing record, while Notre Dame lost to an undefeated, ACC champion Clemson. Obviously Notre Dame would come out the victor in this scenario.
But yeah, no loss is quality imo and it should be like a last resort sort of tie breaker determiner.
Official Current Hesiman standings
1. Derrick Henry
2. Ezekiel Elliott
3. Baker Mayfield
4. Leonard Fournette
5. Dalvin Cook
>>63668466
>Bama running backs
lelno
>>63668427
How can you bring up records without bringing up who they played.
OU will have beaten THREE teams ranked in the top 10 this season, Okie Lite and Baylor are still there. They have smashed the two best offenses in the nation and are fixing to play the the third (albeit depleted).
OU has five wins RIGHT NOW that are more impressive than anything ND has done. WVU, TTU, Tennessee, Baylor, TCU, and Okie Lite are better than anything ND will have beaten this year.
Also realize that if Navy loses to Tulsa that your SoS is going to be in arguably worse than OU's and Tulsa has a top 20 offense and a wideout that's going in the first round if he can shave a tenth of a second off his 40
>>63668466
>Winning over Baker "Kliff Babby" Mayfield
Sorry it's impossible.
>>63668466
>4. Leonard Fournette
"no"
the Bama game proved he's a meme rb
>>63668477
I'm an OU fan and if OU makes the cfp it should go to Mayfield no question.
Henry has a fucking NFL O line that he's running behind and the SEC is really down this year, HOWEVER, his QB is fucking terrible, his wideouts are worse, and his defense isn't scoring.
He pretty much has to do it all himself.
>>63668487
He's saying hypothetically if they were to end up with the same SoS. It's a hypothetical, not meant to be something that can necessarily happen this year.
Also, completely agreed that quality of loss is for kucks and any use of it at all in declaring a team to be good should be met immediately with slander and ridicule
>>63668487
holy fuck, did you not read the part where I said "For the sake of argument, let's just say that they both have equal SoS and number of Quality wins"
That was a hypothetical situation about how the quality loss argument could be made. Obviously, if they both win out the rest of this season Oklahoma is leagues above ND in terms of SoS and Quality wins you fucking sperg
>>63668338
>Texas letting Houston in
if anything they would block Houston and any other Texas team. Texas has no problem with letting ND in, the problem would be finding the other team. Boise State looks good but it's a shitty market to add. They would probably go for a good market/shitty team like Tulane or Memphis
>>63668537
>For the sake of argument of quality loss
>how great of a loser you are is the argument
yeah i guess i can't wrap my mind around such stupidity
>>63668534
I think ND is top ten.
But if I'm seeding for a fucking tournament I don't just seed people higher for good losses, that's fucking stupid.
I would look at wins for a tiebreaker and see who has the best wins.
You guys hear about the B1G vs SEC challenge Bielema was talking about.
>>63668551
committee already proved they don't give a FUCK about "quality" losses last year anyways
>>63668551
Are hypotheticals hard for you?
>>63668550
This already happened and every Texas team voted Houston in and the non Texas teams blocked it.
>>63668551
>this damage control
kek m8, next time you should read what you're replying to.
>>63668550
Instead of adding a team soley for football they should consider basketball revenue as well. The 12 turned Louisville away who then went on to beast mode with Charlie Strong then their basketball team won the natty.
>>63668563
Sounds good to me, although it should be in late November so that SEC teams have to actually play in the cold and snow.
Fucking pussies.
>>63668563
No, but it sounds like Bert is fucking salty he left a perennial B1G West contender for a fucking scrub Arkansas program that exposed how shit he is as a coach
top laffs
wait why are Notre Dame fans not properly bringing up the fact they BTFO the Texas team that beat OU?
"quality losses" is stupid but when there is a common opponent like that it's a better argument than everything but quality wins
>>63668566
>if hypothetically notre dame wasn't a cfb fossil with a shit schedule who always ends up being overrated, would you think they were a good team because of the way they lost
That's just too far out for me man, might as well be talking about what would happen if we used dinosaurs for players instead of humans
>>63668588
>I live in an irrelevant flyover state and I'm butthurt
>>63668588
Nah fuck that. A B1G - SEC showdown would be the GOAT way to start the season every year
OU got bootyblasted by a team the bootyblasters absolutely bootyblasted.
They have no argument. ND is one of the four best teams in the country. They would play anyone in the top 4 close. This is not 2012
>>63668563
>Bielema's concept would consist of ranking all 14 teams in both conferences during the preseason and matching them with their respective nonconference counterpart for a game that season.
using preseason rankings would lead to some very lopsided match-ups generally favoring the B1G considering how overrated SEC teams are in preseason rankings. e.g. SCAR, Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, Arkansas, Ole Miss
>>63668103
Wow, trashing Navy huh?
Fucking terrorist scumbag shit head.
Fuck you ya commie bastard
>>63668616
>living in the south and calling others "irrelevent"
>>63668601
The hypothetical in question is "if two teams ended the season with comparable SoS and the same record, should quality of loss matter?" Ignore the teams in the hypothetical
>>63668601
>nd schedule overrated
it ended up weird but come the fuck on man, they played GT. They played Texas. USC, Stanford, etc... THEY DO NOT PLAY A SHIT SCHEDULE. you are full of shit
>>63668598
True, but common opponent is generally further down the rung when comparing two teams
Oklahoma has a better SoS and number of Quality wins, don't they?
The big 12 should match up with Ivy's and at the end of they year the team among st them all with the best record should claim the national title.
>>63668396
>>63668406
>Shitting on the Naval Academy
ISIS scumbags confirmed
>>63668647
Navy is a fucking meme team m8
stay mad
alluh akhbar
>>63668589
You haven't been watching football if you think Arkansas is shit. Bielema has been doing a great job with that team.
>>63668661
>any of those teams
>good
>>63668641
I'd rather go off their final record the previous year, or even just a 14 year round robin between the two conferences, but the concept itself would be fun
>>63668681
navy was ahead of osu for 3 quarters last year. play them. i dare you
>>63668661
>ACC
>PAC
>6th in Big 12
Tough shit.
>>63668704
OSU was horrible at the beginning of last year
>>63668690
>3-9 (0-8 SEC)
>7-6 (2-6 SEC)
>6-4 potentially end 8-4
>great job
wew lad
>>63668704
they got bootyblasted by the bootyblasters
they are an irrelevant meme team
sorry to break it to ya
>>63668694
you dont schedule your games knowing how they will do next year. when you schedule blue-bloods you have a good shot at having a god team. when your schedule absolute trash like baylor you dont
Why do Ohio State fans love cum so much?
>>63668661
They tried to play a great schedule but literally every fucking team imploded on it. You don't rewarded for trying to do something, you get rewarded for doing it.
It's not your fault so many teams went soft on you but in that situation you really do have to win out and you didn't. You're only competitive game of the season was a loss and the CFP clearly thinks these teams are playoff worthy but isn't putting them in until the schedule works itself out. If the CFP wasn't so high on OU then Baylor would have fallen way further than that. LSU lost to a 4 and fall all the way to 9. Baylor lost to 12 and fell to 10. Baylor would have fallen lower if the CFP wasn't high on OU.
They're just not going to move them up until they've fully atoned for that texas game
>>63668750
It's tasty to be honest family.
Who else thinks a yearly Nebraska/Oklahoma rivalry game would be GOAT?
>>63668750
It's just so delicious. I like it more than ice cream. A nice bowl of cum at the end of the day is just the ticket.
>>63668763
I don't know why they do not schedule it.
>>63668763
>2 of the biggest has been teams in the country
nah
>>63668765
M8 where have you been we changed our name a few weeks ago
>>63668724
Their losses are deceptive just like TN's losses. They'll be a top 15 team next year.
>>63668750
I think because it's so salty, they can't tell the difference between it and SEC tears tobehonest
>>63668781
Didn't they say that last year?
>>63668779
that hurt my feelings anon :/
mike riley will turn it around next year, r-right?
>>63668763
We should name it "The Irrelevant Bowl"
>>63668753
>LSU lost to a 4 and fall all the way to 9. Baylor lost to 12 and fell to 10. Baylor would have fallen lower if the CFP wasn't high on OU.
>LSU goes from 2 to 9 for losing to a 4 on the road
>Baylor goes from 6 to 10 for losing to 12 at home
You might have a point there
>>63668788
TN has been a young team for 20 years now.
One of these years they'll grow into it.
>>63668781
>talk shit about ohio state's cupcake schedule
>lose to fucking toledo at home
>talk shit about based texas tech's ryan gosling coach and the air raid offense
>lose to texas tech at home
>their losses are deceptive, they'll be a top 15 team next year
"no"
>>63668763
There needs to be a rotating rivalry game between the six Blue Bloods. No one cares about Nebraska
I'm at UCLA
A lot of the football players (if not all) seem to have those hoverboard things and they all kinda roll around on them. Since I doubt that every player independently purchased them, would that be the sort of thing provided by the athletic dept? I'm thinking it would be against the rules for players to accept them for free from one of the manufacturers for effective marketing purposes (people see players rolling around on those things and think they are cool so they buy their own)
>>63668814
They didn't drop the extra 3 because 3 teams left the top 10.
With their second losses.
>>63668816
Tennessee is the biggest "NEXT YEAR IS OUR YEAR" team in sports, followed closely by UGA
>>63668819
>le air raid
stale meme desu senpai
>>63668838
It's just a nigger thing bud. I've seen non athlete niggers riding them around campus they just think it's cool.
>>63668857
Even the white offensive linesmen have them, same with Rosen. It seems that literally all of them have them, which is what I found odd.
Alabama will EASILY win all of their remaining games. They will win each remaining game (including both playoff games) by double digits.
>>63668855
I think TN could be good, but they need to stop letting a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome call plays.
Install butch in a recruiting position only, because that's literally all he's good at. Hire some talent playcalling.
