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realest of the real maps edition

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1st for no basketball in /cfb/
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2nd for tOSU
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The chosen four will be Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Notre Dame

Fuck off non-Bluebloods
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>>63600103

should have made a no Big 10/ACC fans allowed thread then
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>>63600208
>the two conferences to most recently win a natty aren't allowed

the butthurt is real
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>>63600248
SEC BTFO
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>>63600193
Fuck Alabama and Notre Dame. Those two schools can go fuck themselves.
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Clemson will lose to South Carolina, preventing their national championship hopes, and will get BTFO against North Carolina and North Carolina will win the natty, with it's only loss to SOUTH CAROLINA

GO CAWKS
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>>63600160
Hoping for a good game desu
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>>63600193
>one loss team with no conference championship getting in

lol no that is Clemson's spot if they don't Clemson to UNC
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>coaches poll and ap25 both nearly identical
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>>63600339
North Carolina shouldn't even be fielding a team, which is fucking bullshit. I hope they get bootyblasted by some meme bigger than theirs
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>>63600339
May lose to UNC, but not the gamecuucks. Not with that shit QB and shit defense.
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>>63600339
Fuck off game keks you are fucking garbage.
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>>63600389
both absolute shit too.
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>>63600388
I disagree. Clemson doesn't have the history to back up theif program and therefore don't belong if a real blueblood is available as a contender.
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>>63600557
that's not how the selection committee works

is this literally your first year watch cfb?
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>>63600396

When it happens, just know it isn't worth taking your life over.
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>>63600557
>muh history
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>>63600589
The selection committee saw last year that non-Bluebloods (FSU and Oregon) can't beat a historically great program. They won't make the mistake of putting in an irrelevant program like Clemson in again
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>>63598680
>IF you took Clemson and FSU and put them in the Big 12
You just made my pants fit funny.
>diamonds
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>>63600654
then why do they have Clemson #1 for the 2nd straight week?
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>>63600674
the Big 12 isn't the Big 10 money wise especially with Texas dominating your shit

The Big 10 could offer Maryland more than the ACC but the Big 12 can't offer more than the ACC

there is no way the Big 12 can get anything other than AAC teams or BYU
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>>63600693
Same reason TCU was ranked last year in the top 4 for much of the season. They're giving them credit for a good season but when it comes down to it they'll hold out the memeshit programs.
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Hey senpai. /Vols/ bro here. How's everyone doing tonight?
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>>63600103
>Western Kansas rooting for K-State football and KU basketball
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>>63600730
considering all the TVs in the ACC footprint, I'm surprised they don't have a network yet

fuck espn, go with fox and get a bigger cut of the pie
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>>63600730
I'd be OK with BYU and a good G5 program that isn't Houston. Memephis, maybe, to get into that part of the country for recruiting.
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>>63600743
the reason TCU was left out was because the Big 12 doesn't have a conference championship game

pay attention
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>>63600784
Bama fans root for Kentucky in basketball
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>>63600748
Just lost internet while I was in the last 3 of a poker tournament. Probably would've gotten 1st or 2nd, got 3rd

pretty upset tbqh
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>>63600743
>they're just trolling

argument lost
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>>63600869
bama fans also root for vanderbilt in baseball
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>>63600869
I'm pretty sure most of the SEC roots for Ky basketball except maybe Florida and Arkansas
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>>63600859
That's just the convenient excuse. I'm sure this year they'll say it's because the ACC is a weak conference or something.

There's no reason to ever put a non-blueblood in unless they want to feed a team to the slaughter
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I know we said to avoid basketball discussion but...
post your team and yfw how you think your team will do in basketball this year

>Tennessee
This year is kind of a rebuilding year since we got rid of dumbass Tyndall. I'm hoping Rick Barnes will do well.
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>>63601015
>There's no reason to ever put a non-blueblood in unless they want to feed a team to the slaughter


This is the dumbest thing I've ever read in these threads.
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>No team located west of the mississippi has won a national championship in the last ten years
How in the fuck?
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Oh, hey Iowa.

Road to the CFP goes through Lincoln, get ready Kawkeyes.
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>>63601134
just under the threshold of intelligence required for winning it
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>>63601104
Why should they give irrelevant meme programs a chance? If you want to play with the big boys, you should go to a blueblood, or you should just accept your inferiority
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>>63600591
again
>with that defense and QB
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>>63601157
Don't get to down /Husker/ bro. Just gotta wait for things to get better. As a /Vols/ fan I know how it feels. Also atleast you beat MSU.
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>>63601194
non-truebloods have won the natty within the past 10 years. call me when a non-trueblood hasn't won it in 20+ years
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>>63601334
>Trueblood
They're football teams not HBO shows M8
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>>63601134
California and Texas are the only states with people

Cali is too soft and Texas is too dumb to understand the game above a high school level
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>>63601435
>Population matters
M8, Do you think Alabama only recruits from Alabama?
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>>63601423
With that logic, the NCAA would only have truebloods in the organization. What's your shit excuse for not having that?
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>>63601499
I was questioning you using trueblood instead of blueblood M8. I wasn't questioning the actual meaning of the post
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>>63601499
HBO execs won't allow it
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>>63601498
no, but Bama isn't taking them faggots from Cali, they're getting them from Florida, Georgia and NC.

so yea, population does matter, and being close to civilization matters
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>>63601553
>>63601558
same difference desu m8s
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>>63601599
>Close to civilisation
I think you mean close to large populations of African Americans friend
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i am happy to announce the washington state cougars are being promoted to blue blood status after their comeback win over UCLA. youve earned it cougs!
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>>63601680
I want to disagree but I can't decinitively prove Nick Saban isn't a vampire
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>>63601690
who are the dregs of civilization, so you need to be close to civilization
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>>63601724
Anyway, the NCAA isn't going to only allow historically legit teams in only.
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>>63601690
Where large numbers of people live there tends to also be large numbers of basketball Americans
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>>63600869
hell fuckin no i dont
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Why are good football schools usually bad at basketball?
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>>63601983
Most schools only have enough money/resources to focus on one sport.
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>>63601837
I BET YOU WALK AROUND SAYIN "ALATUCKY! ROLL CATS" YOU FUCKING BANDWAGON QUEER
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First for Cougs
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>>63602250
you literally disrespected dead navy seals by winning last night
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>>63602141
never bandwagoned in my life
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>>63601015
muh mythical national championship from 1930
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>>63602318
rammer jammer
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>>63602280
UCLA's the one who let the ghosts of navy seals down m8
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>>63602498
YELLOWHAMMER
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>>63602250
Is there a more GOAT logo in all of football?
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>>63602596
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>>63602596
UT's logo looks more like a goat.
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>>63602730
meh, reminds me of the braves.
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>>63600338
Yeah fuck off to the best team in the nation by far
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>>63603182
>best team in the nation
>lost to ole miss
>has yet to beat anybody good
>plays an fcs school this week

AYY LMAO
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>>63603182
They are the best defense in the nation M8. Their offense is probably the biggest liability anyone in the top 4 has
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>>63603303
>has yet to beat anybody good
lmao who does have a win over anyone "good" if Alabama doesn't?
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>>63603447
lets look at their schedule
>unranked Wisconsin
>lost to unranked ole miss
>unranked UGA
>unranked Tennessee
>unranked Arkansas
>soon to be unranked LSU
>unranked Miss St

while Clemson has
>#5 ND
>#15 FSU
and really is the only team to have beaten anybody good, and UNC will make 3 ranked teams
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We number 4 baby.

We in.

GO POKES!
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>A team coming from a state ending in the letters ma will win the national championship
Book it bitches
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>>63604086
>Alabama
>Oklahoma
>South Carolima
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>>63601780
NCAA != CFP Selection Committee
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>>63604256
>South Carolima
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>>63601724
you can now. he was bleeding on the sideline yesterday
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>>63604334
Clemson is a good football team
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>>63604453
thats not the issue here lmao
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>>63604256
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>>63604484
???
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>>63604484
>>63604550
oh shit nvm
I fucking forgot North Carolima, UNC has a chance
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>>63600654
lmao your team was BTFO by two non bluebloods in the natty last decade

same with Oklahoma, another natty by the same two teams
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>>63602730
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Why is WKU called "Grip n Sip"?
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>>63604772
It's a long, elaborate story involving several interlocking memes.
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>>63604772
Lss: Bobby Petrino
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>>63600837
That'll probably happen in the next decade desu
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>>63604854
>implying a network will be relevant in a decade
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>>63604067
GO POKES!
(We will be ranked 7 by the comitee)
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>>63600730
It absolutely can, youre delusional and/or have no knowledge of the big 12
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>>63601983
Football is more important. If you're good at football then there's no reason to care about basketball. Like here at Ohio State, we've had an excellent bball team for the past 10 years, but no one cares because the football team has been really good too. If you're a bball recruit, woudn't you rather go somewhere where you're the main attraction and not the sideshow? Like say you're considering whether to go to Indiana or OSU. OSU has been a better team lately, but at Indiana you would be the most important person on campus.
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Is there any more based football announcer bros?
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>>63600193
>Ohio State
>blue blood

wew lad
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a bit late, and i'm also fairly drunk, but i remember i had a decent conversation with someone from this thread who claimed that stanford had the best chance to get in the playoffs (this was pretty early season), and i also claimed that U OF A U OF A U OF A U OF A U OF A was a good team.

where you at, m8? boston college still has one of the best defenses in the country (told you that pitt wasn't the trap game for notre dame, and that it was the eagles) and that arizona would was a quality win.

fuck the mormons. go catholics. go irish.
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>>63607293
Him and Herbie were god tier. Blackledge and Nessler are severely underrated though.
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>>63604772
because of a meme and the mascots resemblence to an intergral part of that meme
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>>63600654
This is some "King of SEC" tier shit-posting.
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>>63605347
This desu senpai
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>>63607537
>Boston College is the trap game for ND

dead
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>>63600654
The selection committee saw last year that even a blueblood in the sec can't get past the first round of the playoffs.

ftfy
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>>63608851
True.

I don't even know why we have tournaments to be quite honest. They should just award Ohio State the title already since we know every single year they're the best team in the nation. Their only losses since Woody Hayes was hired have all been nothing but flukes. Asterisk next to every single title that didn't go to OSU
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>>63608995
True desu family
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>>63600982
What the fuck is this even trying to say? Thanks for providing literally no context.
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>>63600982
>SEC, 12/14 good teams
>Pac-12, 10/12 good teams
>Big 12, 7/10 good teams
>Big 10, 5/14 good teams
>ACC, 5/14 good teams

So teams in shit conferences compensate by playing more games out of that conference. Cool.
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>>63609659
>SEC, 12/14 good teams
>Big 10, 5/14 good teams

No. Just fucking no. Vandy, Mizzou, SCAR, and UK are both worse than all of Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, and Indiana. Vandy and UK are probably even worse than Rutgers.
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>SEC EAST
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>A social media report, citing “two Baylor sources”, stated that Jarrett Stidham is likely ruled out for Saturdays game against Oklahoma State
Hmmm Ok State will exit the top 25 if they lose against a 3rd string QB.
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tOSU
2. Bama
3. Oklahoma
4. Clempson
5. BootyBlasters
6. Iowa
7. Houston
8. Northwest Missouri St.
9. OK St.
10. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
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Charleston Southern is 9-1, so I guess they aren't the shittiest fcs team out there. Any chance they give Bama trouble? Do they run a meme offense?
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>>63610063
Alabama lost to a 3rd string QB last year :P
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>>63600339
3-7
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Is ranking teams for seeding in a tournament better than ranking them based off of who would beat each other better for /cfb/
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>>63610596
Whatever puts OSU at #1
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>>63610655

BCS was elite.
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>>63610699
Only 3 times. They fucked up by leaving OSU out all the other times.

Asterisk for any title game that didn't include OSU
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>>63610722
If there was 4 teams allowed surely OSU would have won those.
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>>63610739
By my count OSU has been the best team in the nation every year since Tressel was hired
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>>63610763

By my count the FCS champion is the national champion due to actually having a tournament.

How can the FBS championship be legitimate if OSU isn't in it every year?
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Let's say you're an outstanding high school player, non-linesman. Just about every school in the US wants you. Given you want to play in the NFL, where do you go?
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>>63610843
What position? This matters a lot
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>>63610843
Overall? Bama.
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>>63610843

Ohio State
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>>63610854
Whatever you want senpai
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>>63610843

Notre Dame
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>>63610843
Any SEC school and FSU
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>>63610905
Most likely Ohio State then because they produce draft picks at every position except QB. How those picks fare is sometimes another story but I digress
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>>63610945
>Most likely Ohio State then because they produce draft picks at every position except QB. How those picks fare is sometimes another story but I digress
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>>63610973
What's inaccurate about that statement? There are OSU players at every position wandering around the NFL. Some have done well, and some are Ted Ginn Jr.
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>>63610843
The one with the most dope uniforms - even if you lose a game at least you look good in the process.
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>>63611473
Can't wait to see how they will look with the Jordan brand.
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>>63610843
Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, Miami, or USC, because those are the brand names that get first round draft picks.
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>>63611820
>LSU
>Miami
>going to a non-blueblood

kek
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>>63611601
Definitely, I'm glad they're dropping Adidas and I really like the unique matchup with Jordan
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>>63611882
>this comment

Miami is still producing top first round talent. NFL still respect miami even if they are not winning.
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>>63611902
Tbh Adidas should be banned from making College Football Jersey (or any jersey).
Seriously their Canes ones are fucking awful. Not to mention TAMU or UCLA.
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>>63612105
Yeah I'm a UCLA student and think our uniforms are retarded
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>>63612105
I think all brands should be banned from making these new age jerseys and every team should go back to their old uniforms. they are fucking trash
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>>63612178
Gotta agree. New age unis are gay af.
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>>63611968
>taking my comment that seriously

It was a joke. Why anyone actually chooses to go to Oklahoma or Nebraska over Miami I don't really get. Honestly wasn't even trying to throw shade, I really fuck with the U - I have a lot of family in Coral Gables and Ft. Lauderdale and grew up watching both the Wolverines and Canes, and I was at the '01-'02 Rose Bowl.

>>63612105
Agreed, I actually really liked what Nike was doing with the Canes - I'm not normally a fan of alternates but I liked their smoke grey unis. The fact that Adidas/TAMU managed to fuck up the white and chrome look says a lot. And UCLA's aren't horrible just because UCLA has such a good color combo, but the unnecessary texture and bad cutoff lines really make them a lot worse.
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>>63610843
Miami. They are "NFL U".

Don't think there has ever been a program that has put more talent into the NFL, while having such a shitty W-L record over a 10 year period.

If you want to win a championship, go somewhre else. But if it's purely for going to the NFL, Miami is the best choice.
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>>63611882
Miami and LSU currently have more players in the NFL than any other schools.
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>your team
>your preseason predictions
>where you are now
>where you think you'll be next year

1. Florida Gators

2. 7-5 3rd in the SEC East

3. 9-1 SEC East Champions

4. 11-1 SEC East Champions
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>>63613651
1.- Okie State
2. 9-3 (Loses against TTU, TCU and Baylor)
3. 10-0 (still can't believe it)
4. 9-3 with losses agaisnt the Big Three
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>>63613696
M8 TCU won't be very good without BASED BOYKIN. You guys will prolly be third or second in the B12
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>>63610843
If playing in the NFL was my primary objective, I'd try to find a middling school with a coach known for talent development rather than program development. You want to train with/against good enough players, but you don't want to lose your spot in the depth chart to some 5 star stud or due to injury. Don't want to go too small of a pond tho.
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>>63613651
>ND
>9-3
>insane number of Injuries, slightly overrated, no more juice because stanford fucked up, just waiting to get jumped by the pokes or UNC
>9-3
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>>63613651
1. Oklahoma
2. 9-3 (assumed losses to K-State, TCU, and Baylor) 3rd in Big 12
3. 9-1 Big 12 runner up (so far)
4. 10-2 (loss to ohio state and some conference foe)
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>>63613989
can't wait for that OU/tOSU series

just please don't shit the bed and have people saying "wow another weak OOC sched for tOSU"
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>>63613287
That's fucking fantastic. Are they blue bloods? Can you handle a joke?

Hint: both of those questions have the same answer.

>>63613651
>Michigan
>8-4 with losses to Utah, BYU, MSU, and PSU
>8-2 with a shot at winning the B1G if OSU takes care of business against Sparty
>hip
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>>63613651
Bama
14-1 natty champs
9-1 bout to make the prophecy come true
15-0 national champions saban ascends to valhalla
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>>63613810
That's a great way to end up being Kellen Moore
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>>63613651
> UF next year's noncon schedule
> FSU, UMass, North Texas and Presbyterian.

Why do we do this every year.
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>>63614176
I don't know. I understand the profits involved and that it's easier to get smaller schools to come to OUR stadium, but I hate that we're back to playing fucking FCS schools. Our OOC schedule this year was pathetic, but at least we didn't play any FCS programs.
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>>63614176
>implying OOC schedule means anything when you play in the SEC! SEC! SEC!
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>>63613651
1. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
2. 11-1 OVC champion
3. 9-1 OVC champion
4. 12-0 OVC champion
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>>63613651
>Clemson
>10-2
>10-0
>11-1
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>>63614067
or jerry rice, randy moss, demarcus ware (off the top of my head)

It's also a great way to avoid be John David Booty.
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>>63607342
I'm a Michigan fan, and holy fuck you're dumb. tOSU is one of the two blue bloods of the big10.

>Nebraska isn't really big10
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>>63614176
>teams play 2 FCS teams
>hold it against big 12/ND for not playing an extra CC game
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>>63614243
also
>ACC champs
>ACC champs(hopefully)
>ACC champs
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>>63614276
I don't hold anything against anyone. I'm just tired of UF thinking it is okay to play FCS teams every year just cause they also play FSU.
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>>63614429
I don't mean you specifically, you actually seem to value challenging matchups. But plenty of commentators do not share this view or exercise selective logic
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>>63614258
Those are not the rule but rather the exception to it. These are the guys the major schools missed in recruiting. There will always be some of them, but almost all pros come from power 5 teams.
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>>63614467
I also wasn't suggesting g5 conferences, I was suggesting schools that are mid-tier in p5 conferences. I don't know why it was assumed otherwise. I just wanted to counter a shitty argument with a less convenient version of the same argument.
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>>63607293
I grew up on Keith Jackson and Pat Summerall.

Also like Nessler

Can't stand Millen, but the worst is that Britney Spears retard.
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>>63612178
Fucking this. Stick with the classics 10/10. Michigan, Penn State and Alabama aren't fucking around with their uniforms every year and it's good for branding.
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>>63614429
Also what is up with SEC teams playing FCS teams the 2nd or 3rd week in November every year when every other conference is only playing conference games? Seems like its almost like a free bye week late in the season, while the rest of the country can only play these low level teams in September, then have to grind it out all the way to the conference championship game.
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>>63614578
I understand having cupcakes to start the year, get your kinks out, get greener guys some experience etc. But it makes no sense to be having these games in November. its just a "win" for the sake of penciling one in. And as already pointed out, 12-1 with 2 FCS wins is often seen as better than 11-1 with 0 FCS wins.
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>>63614578
SEC starts conference play a week early and then leaves a bye later on.

On one hand, it's smart because it gives the team a rest. On the other, it's stupid because it means the team is playing an irrelevant game on ESPN News at 11 while another team is playing the 7:00 PM prinetime slot against the #7 ranked opponent amd gettting all the hype from it.
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>>63614635

late season tune up before rivalry game? fuck, i don't know but its been that way for a long time
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reminder that 90 percent of you are losers that are fans of shit teams so you sit around like a fatass on saturdays cheering against teams you hate to validate your existence but when they win you want to kill yourself because you have nothing better to do with your life.
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>>63614658
Alabama started the year with a (then) top 25 OOC matchup. so I don't give a shit about Charleston Southern right before the big rivalry game.
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>>63614658

not to mention cupcakes prior to rivalry week didnt help them against the ACC last year

>0-4

LOL!
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>>63614779
I don't really either. There's positives and negatives to both approaches, obviously
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>>63614658
The SEC doesn't even need "style" points. There is already the perception that the best SEC team is deserving of being in the CFP, probably even over a few certain teams in other Power 5 conferences if they were to be undefeated (Iowa, Oklahoma State, etc).

Basically the SEC teams just get an easy week of light practices, get to rest their guys who are injured, and tune up whatever they want about their team against a weak foe late in the year, right before the toughest 2-3 games of their schedule and bowl season. Meanwhile other conferences have to fight through injuries and hope to gain more style points in their primetime games against good teams. How the fuck is that fair?
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>undefeated clemson beats cuse in cuse by 10
>espn trashes them for barely winning

>an undefeated LSU beats cuse by 10 earlier in the season after only leading by 4 at halftime
>"Leonard Fournette posed for a photo with former Syracuse great Floyd Little after leading LSU to another victory, a fitting end to another stellar day for the Heisman Trophy hopeful."

SEC bias is real if you say otherwise kill yourself
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>>63614887
desu I don't think anyone trashed clemson. they are #1.
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>>63614922

they had the espn cfb show on the bar and the analysts all said bama was better at this point and should be 1 because of their unconvincing win.

plus ESPN literally has an article right now anointing Henry the Heisman winner when elliott isnt even mentioned
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>>63614947

Zeke is a great back no doubt. How many top 50 defenses has he ran against?
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>>63614772
Why so mad at sandwich tho?
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>>63614947
Henry is likely going to be the nations leading rusher going into post season play plus breaking the schools single season rushing touchdown record. I don't see why he shouldn't be the contender. He's stepped up huge in their biggest games so far.
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>>63615013

bamas schedule is horseshit this year too. LSU turned out to be overrated trash. oh well. we'll just destyroy bama in the playoffs again and let those inbred fucks get overhyped every year for no reason
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>>63615037

You dodged the question senpai. And 2014 Bama =/= 2015 Bama
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>>63615026

saying he's the front runner is fine. saying it is "inevitable" that hes going to win is trash
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>>63615037
>we

What position do you play for An Ohio State University Buckeyes, m8?
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>>63615094

tuition giver
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So I did the research and Zeke has ran against 3 top 50 run defenses

>47. Penn State 27 car 153 yds 1 TD

>48. Illinois 27 car 181 yds 2 TD

>50. Northern Illinois 23 car 108 yds 0 TD

Henry has ran against 4

>5. Wisconsin 13 car 147 yds 3 TD

>23. Ole Miss 23 car 127 yds 1 TD

>27. LSU 38 car 210 yds 3 TD

>31. Middle Tennessee 18 car 96 yds 3 TD

>37. Georgia 26 car 148 yds 1 TD

Objectively, Henry is the better back.
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>>63615251
oops, Henry ran against 5
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>>63615251


>MTSU
>UGA

lol
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>>63615317

literally ranked higher in rush defense than all of the teams that OSU played
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>>63615370
it's ok he doesn't like facts
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>>63614461
Its tough cause losing even 1 game is bad if you're a high tier P5 school, but there is literally no need to schedule a FCS school. Look what happened to Michigan against App. state. Not saying UF needs to schedule an Oklahoma or Stanford every year. Like replace Presbetarian with a decent American Conference team. Both teams get a strength of schedule boost and the AAC gets more opportunities to play better opponents.
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>>63615251
Meh, Elliott gets less caries and produces similar overall results. Elliott still has to play MSU and Michigan, which will help this stat, while Henry just plays cupcakes left. It will even out at the end of the season, and statistically they will be comparable rushers.

Zeke was also elite last season and is the better receiving back.

His stats objectively suffer from the number of weapons around him getting touches
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>>63615579
Zeke will end with 5 (Michigan and Mich State) but Henry will still end up with more with 6 (Florida is 10th in rush defense).

Last season means absolutely nothing for the Heisman race this year.

Why should Henry be punished for Zeke not getting touches.
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>>63615579
>less carries
25.6 147.3 zeke
23.6 145.6 henry
that is henry getting less carries and similar overall results
also every one of those defenses that henry played are better than every one of those defenses that zeke played
37th(lowest for bama)>47th(highest for tosu)
like i said you don't like facts
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>>63615653
Won't Iowa be one too? They would both end with 6 then.

>>63615741
You're looking at only their games against top defenses when Elliott has yet to play his hardest defenses. Elliott's best games have come against top defenses because the team leans on him in those situations. Right now, Henry has the lead in the comparison, because he played more top defenses early on. OSU's are all at the end. Compare them after those games and they'll be roughly even
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This pretty much solidifies why the committee is so high on Bama as their favorite one loss team.
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>>63615845

god damn, who knew clemson and bama had the toughest schedules
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>>63615509
that worked so well for Ole Miss

This has been debated for years. Basically, there's nothing the gators can do to add to their strength of schedule in an appreciable way. Might as well take a break to giver yourself a better chance at winning the last few. Except when Ga Southern shows up
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>>63615818
we will see
>>63615845
and bama hasn't played any fcs school yet, after this saturday opp w/l will be 70-40
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>mfw Baker Basedfield wins the Heisman
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>>63615940
I mean, unless Alabama decides to meme up their FCS opponent next week and get Henry an NCAA record, both will produce similar results.

Looking at defensive rankings of teams either face is fairly irrelevant, anyways, since there isn't a team in America that could stop either back, except maybe Alabama and Ohio State themselves.
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>>63615961
>mfw he wins the Heisman
>mfw he goes on to get BTFO in the national title game like his counterparts Jason White and Sam Bradford
Oklahoma Heisman QBs everyone
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>>63616049
no, it is not irrelevant
everyone said fournette was unstoppable, but look what happened when he played an(the) elite defense
henry has better stats so far, against tougher opposition, and you don't want to listen to facts
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>>63615251
>5. Wisconsin

what goofy system are you using?

ranked by yards per attempt, which they always should be, they are ranked

>39. Penn State
>(51. Illinois)
>34. Northern Illinois
>+ 33. Maryland

>13. Wisconsin
>11. Ole Miss
>(52. LSU)
>37. Mid Tenn
>41. Georgia
>+ 40. Arkansas

don't really care about which one is better but your methodology is whack
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>>63616090
The difference is that Fournette never proved he is unstoppable while Elliott and Henry already have. You forget what Elliott did to the best defenses in the nation last year. Their resumes speak to that definitively, where Fournette's never did
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>>63615939
Well who thought Memphis would be a top 25-30 team. Thems the breaks. Though if you're going to schedule a tougher noncon, put them 2nd. That way you have a cupcake warm up, then the tough game, then conference schedule, then 2nd cupcake and then rival game.

Either way if you don't win your games whether it's Memphis or Georgia Southern then you're screwed.
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>>63616107
Explain to me how per attempt is even relevant when it comes to rushing defense. Not being able to keep the offense off the field doesn't make you a better defense
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>>63616051
>implying OU will even make it to playoffs
At this point it's all but confirmed that the final seeding will be
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Notre Dame
4. Michigan

>mfw we get to bootyblast Notre Dame in the Champions Hip after they tried to avoid playing us this year
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>>63616127
honestly you cant really blame fournette for his numbers against bama. lsu's blockers were getting absolutely sonned on every single play
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>>63616226
OSU is going to rekt Harbaugh so badly that you guys will be begging Hoke to come back
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>>63616107
>>63615251
>>63616127
ok so i looked it up and current numbers are even better for alabama
5. Wisconsin
17. LSU
21. Arkansas
26. Ole Miss
33. Middle Tennessee
37. Georgia
vs tOSU
48. Penn State
49. Northern Illinois
52. Illinois
59. Maryland
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>>63616299
Well of course not, but OSU and Bama's O lines don't get pushed around like that. And Elliott has the added advantage that you can't stack the box against him because OSU has great deep threats
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Name your team and name the biggest concern you have going forward:

>Bama
Outside of the offensive line deciding not to play sometimes, I'd say the underneath pass coverage on defense is a concern. Miss St ate us up doing cross routes over the middle which then progressed into deeper crossing routes with no safety there to help. It's been a weakness all year and I'm worried someone like Ohio St or Clemson will shred us apart there.
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>>63613651
>Ohio State
>National Champs
>10-0
>National Champs
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>>63614053
>he thinks Mishitstain is going to stop Zeke
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>>63616379
>us

What position do you play for the University of Alabama Crimson Tide football team, m8?
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>>63616451
punter cuz im puntin these nuts in your mum's mouth
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>>63616345
Bama beat LSU and Fournette without stacking the box, and I doubt they will need to against tOSU and zeke
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/11/9/9697260/alabama-leonard-fournette-strategy#4875845
inb4 muh sbnation
good article that uses stats and facts
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>>63616403
this desu senpai
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If Henry wins the Heisman that will be the third Lane Kiffin has coached.

Can't miff the Kiff
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>>63616466
LSU doesn't have half the O line OSU does, and Fournette isnt half the back Elliott and Henry are

It's like you don't remember what Elliott did last year against Bama. They won't be able to stop him
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>>63616379
>OSU
Only concern is health at corner. If Conley and Apple stay healthy there's no issues, if either go down we're lacking in depth at corner.
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>>63616379
> UF

Treon Harris tbqh.
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>>63616581
>only concern is health at corner
>not quaterback
nigga your qb got arrested for driving under the influence, and then asked the cop to let him go because he is a football player
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>>63616630
JT goes down and Cardale isn't flashy but he clearly can win games. Not concerned if we have to roll with Play School
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>>63616630
>20 year old kid pleading with the cops because he knows he's in deep shit
keep trying to play that up as arrogance. at least he didn't rape anybody. #shameless jameis
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>>63616504
>Kiffen was the reason Leinart, Palmer, and Bush won the Hiesman
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>>63616713
I don't really care, but the media does and it might affect a suspension
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>>63616713
>19 year old kid breaks a window and steals crab legs because he's a retard
keep trying to play that up as arrogance. at least he didn't rape anybody.
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>>63616756
>I can't spell
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>>63616379
>Ohio State

The pass protection could really step up. It would also be nice for Ed Wariner to get his head out of his ass and stop calling retarded plays.
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>>63616209
because per game is skewed by pace and style of play of the teams you play

a rushing defense that gives up 2.5 yards per attempt but 100 rushing yards is always, always, always better than a rushing defense that gives up 3 yards per attempt but 90 yards per game.
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>>63616767
The media is retarded and the Mike May's of the world look for any chance they can get to cry wolf about OSU. These are the same people that tried to claim OSU should face the death penalty over tattoos and that Cardale Jones complaining about having to go to class is somehow evidence of something dirty going on, and not literally the opposite of that.

Same people always call for programs to get punished as much as possible for stupid shit that isn't even the program's fault, then sweep UNC under the rug saying "well, everybody does it".
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>>63616887
Fuck UNC. They don't deserve to field a fucking team. Ohio State and USC have 1-2 players recieve an illegal benefit and their program gets fucked over.
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>>63616874
Not at all. The one that gives up the few yards on less rushes indicates stats were skewed by a big play, or something happened to force the offense off the ground game. A defense that has tons of carries against it indicates they can't get the opposing offense off the field and the other team is dominating the pace of the game.
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OSU>Clemson>Bama>ND

OSU would run all over clemson, clemson would pass all over bama, bama would booty blast ND

prove me wrong

protip: you cant
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>>63616887
i did not say whether it was deserved or not, i said it would be an issue with some including the media and is a cause for concern going forward
>>63617008
see
>>63615845
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>>63617059
They broke no rules so they'll receive no penalty. It's actually not against the rules to seek special treatment, just to receive it
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>>63614031
we will lose 3 of our 5 best players, Striker, Sanchez, and Shepard. Stiker has been quiet this year and Sanchez is replaceable, but Sterling Shepard is our bread and butter. Like our only good reciever
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>>63617129
I didn't say anything about "they"
i said him, one person, singular
he did break the law, and him asking for special treatment looks bad
i swear you can't even read
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>>63616966
>A defense that has tons of carries against it indicates they can't get the opposing offense off the field

it really doesn't indicate that at all, it more likely indicates an inability to defend the pass (Arizona State) or a freakishly fast style of play (Oklahoma) or playing against teams that tend not to run the ball as a rule (Toledo) or vice-versa (Duke)

are you really going to expect me to believe that Wyoming's run defense is better than Hawaii's?
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>>63617221
forgot my pic
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>>63617201
The university, team, and Barrett are one entity when it comes to receiving a punishment. He broke the law with the DUI, which was published more severely than other teams punish DUIs. Him asking for special treatment means literally nothing and affects nothing and the NCAA cannot do anything at all about it
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>>63616379
>Oklahoma
basically your "showing up to play" thing for the offense. Mayfield always tries hard, but the line can be terrible and the recievers were dropped like 6 catcheable passes against baylor
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>>63617250
> Eastern Michigan
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