I'd like to see them bring in video refs/reviews besides goal line tech.
Preferably captains/coaches getting a limiter number of challenges per match/half.
What do you guys reckon?
Would have been interesting to check this one too, though you'd need something to keep it in check so it doesn't turn into Rugby League's vid ref ever 30 seconds.
>>57923401
fuck off
>>57923401
I think it would be cool, but think about this.
>team attacks
>player in front of the keeper about to score a goal
>referee blows whistle, calls offside
>play stops, attacking player simply shoots the ball anywhere
>video ref time
>it was onside
Wat do?
>>57927453
If you bring video to football it could not be applied on offsides (except when ref not validating a goal because he whistle after it was scored).
It could be use only on penalty kicks and serious fouls (like if it deserves a red or not).
Football is too rigged/corrupt to see it happening though.
>>57927453
The refs don't call offside, then if/when the player scores, they review to see if anything has been done illegally (see Henry vs Ireland) or an offsise
>>57923401
Its the logical step forward that needs to be done to improve the game. I would give the coach 3 challenges (like in handegg) where refs get a video review of the play and then decide. If the challenge was wrong, coach is charged with one of his 3 possible subs (like handegg's timeouts).
Sadly this will never happen, cause it would destroy refball match fixing, and ruin FIFA's business.
>>57928020
offside*
>>57923401
The line superimposed on the pitch isn't straight in this image. Look at the stripEs on the grass, the "offside line" is slightly more than halfway to the right of the grass stripe on the nearside, but off to the left of halfway of the grass stripe on the far side.
He's still probably marginally off, but it's a lot closer than this image makes it look
>>57923612
Clearly onside
I'm in big favour of videorefs. Each team 1 call each 45 minutes.
>>57928548
the lines are correct. look at the boxes of the discolored grass. they are shorter in length on top than at the bottom. therefore the slanted line is right
Why not just put one line every 5 yards and have the remaining yards marked with little dashes on the sidelines and 1/3 of the way in from each sideline?
>>57928548
>The line superimposed on the pitch isn't straight in this image
What is perspective? This game would have been a draw or City win if not for refball.
>>57928660
>Each team 1 call each 45 minutes.
I'd make it 1 call per game, incl extra time and any extra halves (in the case of a tournament/playoffs before the shitty penalties)
why aren't all goals reviewed? They give the players literally 5 minutes to celebrate every time. Why not use it to confirm goals
>>57940125
What? No. Stop being a butthurt fanboy. Utd was better throughout 80% of the match.
>>57927453
>Wat do
The same thing we do now, what's the problem?
>>57940187
Because most FA's and UEFA are lazy shits that much rather prefer human referee who can be blamed and also take bribes.
>>57940125
Sorry to break it to you but that's not how it works
No because then it wouldnt be soccer. Now fuck off
>>57923401
Well, the "tech" in OP's pic sure is bullshit... if that's the kind of shit they're gonna try to pull with it, fuck it
>>57940419
#REKT
>>57940360
It'll still be football if teams can challenge bs calls that everyone watching can see.
Just need to limit it so it doesn't turn out like Rugby League.
>>57923401
give each manager two or three challenges per game. if you're worried about the flow of the game, limit them only to big decisions (like penalties, goals, and red cards). the fourth official walks over to a little monitor to watch replays of the incident, and then tells the main shitcunt what the score is.
Kind of a casual here, but aren't both teams on one sideline? Put a track along the opposite side with cameras perpendicular to the sideline, and either automated or manually-controlled to stay even with the last man. It would make reviews fairly easy for offside calls.
As for how they are officiated, it would make sense to do it like turnovers in football. Anything that's even close is played as a continuation, then at the earliest continuation/change of posession, the review would occur.
Regular camera angles can already be used for goals, enforcing diving, and sideline calls.
Honestly I get the opposition to replay, it's rusty at best when introduces in every sport it's in, but it gets refined over time and starts to improve play. If you have the technology to make the right call without severely changing the way the game is played, there is no excuse not to do so.
>>57923401
Why doesn't soccer show the official game clock?
>>57940520
Most people aggree with all this, they could also have more line or something like in handegg. The problem is not the technology, its the FAs and FIFA
Mata's was offside that was it.
No, we need refball so Gazprom FC can get to the RO16 every year.
>>57940568
Most articles are calling Fellaini's head and shoulder off.
>needing this much refball to beat ManShitty
Not until it takes less than 10 seconds to review the play and make the decision
>>57940646
>dat goallinestewardguy.
>>57940646
what a fucking disgrace
>>57923401
>>57923612
>>57940419
I still wonder why they don't use an aerial lateral cam for checking offsides on TV, longside cams are just horrible.
Pic related, a gyroscopic 360° cam is actually nice on some replays and provides a better view of the action.
>>57923401
It's embarrassing tbh. All the people who are complaining about the flow of the game are full of shit. If it gets stopped for a foul or to call an offside or to celebrate a goal then there is plenty of time to make sure the decision is a good one
>>57923401
protip: video reviews simply displace human error (essentially a constant) away from the football field itself and into the lap of the video reviewer. with regards to offside, fouls and simulation, it's still essentially a referee making a decision in the end. The same amount of incorrect decisions would occur, just for different reasons. No longer would blatant simulation occur, but the implementation of video evidence would force fifa rule makers to bring a greater level of rigor, clarity and specificity to the rule regarding simulation. This creates a more complex rule which opens up various interpretations of the said rule. Different interpretations, due to different referees gives different results and ultimately an identical amount of inconsistency (human error) to what we already have. Sometimes things are just against you, sometimes they are not. That is sport.
>>57940767
Its pretty slow to maneuver and not all grounds have it
>>57940673
No refball m8
>>57923401
put sensors in the unis
>>57940841
>The same amount of incorrect decisions would occur,
How do you know?
>more complex rule which opens up various interpretations of the said rule
Not really.
>wanting pauses in the gameplay to review video
I think you'd prefer american sports.
>>57940125
>being this upset
Fuck off you boring, degenerate, American, fat cunt.
>>57940646
what game was this?
>>57941000
Schalke Basel in the CL last year.
>>57940968
rugby and cricket?
>>57940646
UEFALONA
>>57923401
Have algorithms monitoring the game in real time, which then send a taptic and audio signal to the ref whenever there's an offside.
>low cost
>efficient
>no need for breaks
>no need for more refs
>>57941329
>what if the algorithms fails?
shit happens.
the algorithm can be improved iteratively. with the amount of games played each week it can get pretty robust in short time.
>>57941344
it can't fail more than refs do already anyway
While we're at it, when does FIFA introduce a proper clock?
>reduce game time to 60 minutes
>clock stops whenever ball is out of play
Is it that fucking difficult? This change doesn't cost anything and would already improve the sport massively.
>>57942467
>reduce game time to 60 minutes
why?
>>57942677
because games would last longer if the clock stops whenever the ball is out of play
the average game time of a 90 minute football game is around 56 minutes or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czYKLattC8A
@ 45 secs was this not offside, city needing refball to beat southampton
>>57940697
kek is hard
