52 days until season starts
News:
>Ducks have re-signed forward Jakob Silfverberg to a one-year, $850,500 contract
>Major announcement in Buffalo Monday and there are a lot of NHL dignitaries coming including Colin Campbell.
>canucks have never won the Stan Lee cup
>>51430676
Oh I recognize that picture. It's from the time a 5'6" manlet checked Daniel Sedin should-to-shoulder, Sedin dove to the ice, "injured" himself, went to the hospital, and ended up not being injured at all.
You may only reply to this post if your team will make the postseason this year
Not so fast, hongcover fans
Lets start this thread off right
YOU MAY ONLY REPLY TO THIS POST IF A TEAM IN YOUR COUNTRY HAS WON A STANLEY CUP IN THE PAST 21 YEARS.
NOT SO FAST, CANADIANS.
>>51431074
>inb4 1980 and 1993
>>51430676
news update:
these franchises have still not won any (0) cups
>Blues
>Chinkcucks
>Sabres
>Panthers
>Sens
>Caps
>CBJ
>Mild (still not a top-5 team)
>Jets
>Perds
>Shorks
>Arizona
(shit that's a lot of garbage franchises)
>>51431182
>1993
>1990
>1989
>1988
>1987
>1980
>1960
>....
so how much longer till Tavares escapes the islanders and actually build a career
>>51431165
when we start pumping out more quality players, your post will then make sense
>>51431241
When was the last time an English team won a cup?
>>51431271
>2018 Tavares2Leafs
>>51431241
think before you post, please
>>51431271
is the whole team going to Brooklyn?..orrr is it going to be a free-for-all
no one seems to know a thing about the Brooklyn deal
You may only post in this thread after this post has been made if your country fills any of the following criteria:
>has a top 22 scoring player in NHL history born in your country
>more than two gold medals since the inception if ice hockey
>more than three NHL players to average more than one point per game in their career
>haven't been beaten 5-0 by Finland in order to not qualify for an Olympic medal since the inception of hockey
>>51431314
>build a career
>in Toronto
lol
>>51431241
mild confirmed not top 5
>>51431395
buddy, look at >>51431389 you clearly can't post
>>51431302
every cup is England's by proxy
>Lord Stanley was a britbong
>Canada part of the commonwealth; queen on the money
>implying I'm from britstan
>I have no face
>>51431389
this only instigates and ruins our /hoc/ thread.
>put down the syrup
>>51431324
But anon, none of those franchises have won
>>51431394
>>build a career
>>in Toronto
yeah totally Phil Kessel didn't go from being completely underrated to being one of the most dangerous goal scorers in the entire NHL period
he totally isn't the 2nd highest point producer in the last three seasons
he totally isn't top 5 in goals scored over the last SIX seasons, totally didn't play 5 of them in Toronto, nah
>>51431424
>thinking anyone cares about your posts
TL;DR LOL
>>51431456
buddy you can't post, read the post you quoted
>>51431521
>expecting a habs fan to not sit on taranna
>>51431241
>even the lightning and hurricanes have won Stanley Cups
>shorks
>>51431588
*shit
>>51431521
>Phil ''40 goal scorer'' Kessel
>good
Pacioretty > Kessel
>>51431588
I don't even care about the Leafs tbh. I prefer to shit on the Sabres or Panthers, although I have to admit that I hate Pylon Phenoof
>>51431685
>mfw patches scored more goals last year than bill the thrill
>mfw the habs refpucked past the lightning
expanding on my previous post:
what solid American players we got out there currently/soon to be drafted/soon to bathe in tears of syrup?
As a Blue Jacket fan:
Dubinsky and Johnson will rek your buttholes
as for the other "teams"..I have no idea
>always lurking..always watching
>>51431787
Dubinsky and Johnson suck dick
>>51431787
the real deal jack eichel
>dubinsky, johnson
>good
>>51431381
The team is going 15 miles east towards Brooklyn. It's not really a big deal. The ownership negotiations, and the Barroway lawsuit are bigger problems for the islanders team in the future, imo.
>>51431779
>mfw patches scored more goals last year than bill the thrill
It's only the beginning my good friend, Patches is soon going to be an actual 40 goal scorer
>>51431787
>le prosthetic phallus logo
>>51431779
>habs refpucked past the lightning
>mfw people are pathetic enough to say this in a public forum
>>51431490
winning the cup isn't everything (in my opinion)..having a strong, consistent, lasting franchise makes a brand..
So I'd rather have THAT then win the cup, say, every 15 yrs
>>51431685
>>51431925
neither are going to be good until they get a no1 centre
>>51431992
>mfw people actually believe the frog refs didn't carry the habs past the lightning
>>51431521
I really don't think Toronto brought that out in him
>not that i really have anything against the leafs (besides your shitty business side of the team)
>>51431992
>Lightning fans
>knowing anything about hockey
I bet he can't explain why this suckerpunch wasn't penalized.
[spoiler]because the refs were shit and made bad calls on both sides and only delusional homer faggots complain about bad reffing[/spoiler]
>>51432048
>winning the cup isn't important
>It's ok if they don't win the cup as long as they try hard
this is the mark of a truly hopeless loser
>shorks
>chinkcucks
>blues
Based /hoc/ posters keeping me so occupied at work every day, good stuff comrades
>>51432211
>mfw I work in retail
>can't shitpost at work
>>51432067
Galchenyuk is projected to be a PPG player by most people who know shit about hockey
Until then they have David ''GOATest of the All-Time GOATS'' Desharnais lol
>>51432153
>suckerpunch
That was a perfectly legal play and was called as such. The real crime was the refs were shit and denied Tampa Bay their rightful victory.
>>51431971
don't be a nigger..or since you're Canadian, a chink...Who you cheering for that's so based?
>>51432197
>this is the mark of a truly hopeless loser
>chinkcucks
you got that right
>>51431787
Jack Eichel
Noah Hanifin
Colin White
Kyle Connor
Zach Werenski
Confirmed for top 15 in 2015
Luke Kirwan
Auston Matthews
Joey Anderson
Riley Tufte
Ryan Lindgren
Nick Pastujov
Confirmed top 15 2016
2017 is the year of the Americans though.
>>51432268
>16 goals
>GOAT
assist babby
>>51432295
>That was a perfectly legal play
ayyyyy lmao
>>51432255
Lol
Dead end faggot
>>51432115
>"At 5-on-5 Tampa got eaten alive. During the regular season, the best 5-on-5 goals-for/against ratio was Boston, who outscored their opponents at evens at a rate of 1.53. Tampa gave up 10 5-on-5 goals to Montreal, while only scoring five in the series themselves (a clean rate for Montreal of 2.00)."
>refpuck
>lelning 'fans'
>>51432376
>>51432377
I'm only 19 and I'm still in school
What do you want me to do? Work at a boring office like you? Talk about dead end.
>>51432378
>implying the habs didn't get away with tons of penalties 5on5 that weren't called which lead to advantages that lead to goals
>british hockey "knowledge"
>>51432456
>still this deluded
>florida hockey fans
>ayyyyy lmao
This week in eternal news...
>9-1
>4-3
>Rags
>Thorton the worst captain of all time
>Canada has not won a Cup in 21 years.
Daily reminder that
>Ameriburgers
>1980
>>51432501
>taking the bait repeatedly
ayyyy
>>51432600
>4-3
>a big deal
stay delusional
>>51432629
>canucks
>zero (0) stanley cups
>worse than the laffs
>>51432255
>be me, ausfag
>only work 45 mins every hour as a roof carpenter because of Aussie 'smoke break' homemade laws
>ability to shitpost for all eternity every single day
>no one takes an Aussies comments seriously
:(
>you will never be an eternally buttfurious asian hongcouver fan watching his team get BTFO repeatedly in real life and on 4chan
>>51432859
id literally filter all australians if i knew how
>>51432859
Embrace your elite countrymen's ability to shitpost. You were born into it, we merely adapted to it.
>>51432859
>You now realize that aussies are descendants of brits who shitposted so much that the english had no other choice but to send them to the other side of the world to contain it.
>>51432456
>gave twice as many even strength goals
>40 giveaways in 4 games
>dramatically outshot and outchanced in every game
>BTFO
>still crying refpuck
pathetic
>>51433008
top lel
>>51432912
You can
>>51433009
see
>>51432622
>revealed my ruse
>still arguing
pathetic
my work here is clearly done
>>51432912
>Trying to hide your shame of giving birth to the most based country to ever be
>being utterly irrelevant at all sports
>being British and being generally a waste of space
pick 3 m80
>>51433028
>duckduckgo
>thatbackground
lel
>>51433170
>Trying to hide your shame of giving birth to the most based country to ever be
But Brits aren't ashamed of Canada.
>>51433144
>>51432622
BTFO florida pleb backtracking
so very pathetic
>>51433008
Makes me tear up with pride really
>>51433170
your literally our mutated autistic son. canada is the upstanding son that were proud of and america is our rogue teenage son that we still love deep down.
>>51433375
>being mad at straya
calm that edge, son
>>51433327
>completely assblasted britfag getting trolled to the max
so very pathetic :^)
the funny part is i'll argue the same shit at a later point and you jerks will still respond, every single time proving beyond a doubt i've got you eating from the palm of my hand
just like when you inevitably reply to this post because you can't help yourself
>>51433426
top kek
>>51433295
I'm 'mirin
>>51433426
>I spend all my time getting BTFO
>AHAHA that'll show them.
great plan there.
>>51433426
>this anal wreckage inspired diatribe
Sorry bro
You got murked.
>>51433493
thought so
don't fuck with me next time kiddo. it won't end well for you.
>>51433375
>absolute top tier laughs
>Canada and GBR being relevant to anything ever
>muh gold medals
>muh heritage
no need for your feathers to be so ruffled by the son being greater than the father
>>51433504
>>51433584
>successfully troll using the same tired and simple arguments every time
>someone always takes the bait
Clearly you know nothing about my master plan
>>51433426
>ill unironically spend my time on a malaysian cartoon board engineering arguments so that i delude myself into thinking i have control of something
literally the saddest thing ive read all week
>>51433705
>being an autist
>'plan'
>>51433705
>pure unadulterated butthurt
Wow stop posting any time you're making yourself look worse and worse
why do I even bother with this general
>>51433705
This is probably the most embarrassing display I've ever seen on 4chan.
>>51433667
>Canada and GBR being relevant
u watch it m80
>>51433746
>>51433749
>>51433789
>>51433861
>all these responses
>all this asspain
my fucking sides
see ya next time, nerds :^)
>>51433846
>the offseason
it can only get better
>>51433980
Not if you're Canadian
Why is /hoc/ the most based general on the board?
>>51434097
>sean
>>51434097
it is sometimes. It was fun but then that brit game.
>>51434097
because of faggots like
>>51433880
>>51433705
>>51433426
>>51433144
>>51432622
>>51432456
>>51432295
>>51432115
getting
>BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
getting
>>51434084
Are you trying to mess with my emutions?
>>51434160
>game
came
>>51434160
This guy?
>>51434271
>>51433028
>WWE
hahahahahahahahah
>>51434277
Is it working?
hahahaha you are so analravaged xD
in all seriousness, stay classy. And I actually like the habs.
>>51434444
>I actually like the habs
>frogpuck
why straya why
>>51434338
yes. I'm pretty sure it's the same brit all thread. I noticed it turned to shit when he came and I doubt it's a coincidence.
>>51434383
I feel obligated to watch all the ppvs since I've been with it since early childhood
I mostly go in there to make fun of people though. I never go in their autism general
>>51434383
WWE is gay
but
>canucks
hahahahahahahahah
>>51434497
Because the frogs are the team of the future
>>51434537
no there's actually another bong
hence:
>>51433375
>>51433417
>straya
>ameriburgers
>britbongs
>>51434652
>mfw british invasion
>>51434497
>Subban is a negro
>old
>aren't the laffs or cantpucks
They aren't as based as the Sens, but they aren't embarassing
>>51433028
>wwee
>>51434749
see >>51434537
stop bullying me
>>51434745
>Senpoors
>ape-frogs
why are you like this?
>>51434749
Who is Dean Lombardi going to trade rape this season?
>>51432349
>confirmed for top 15
Just like Nick Ebert was a confirmed top 10 pick in 2012, right?
>>51434846
>regehr to sens for turris
>mfw
>>51434702
>one man shitposting army
>power of straya
>>51434886
blown the fug out
>you will never be Canadian
>you will never be Australian
>you will never be Muslim/British
>>51434846
cantpucks
sedins for bag of pucks
Buffalo announcement is probably something irrelevant like the draft or combine
>>51435035
>mfw
>muslim/british
>implying there's a difference
>>51435074
that's the joke
>>51430676
Give me one reason why Lee Stempniak won't put up 45 points this season
>>51435099
He sucks dick
>>51435099
He is unlikely to be traded away from the >rags
>rags
>>51435035
>muslim
dafug
>>51435039
Vancouver would pick up 13.8M/year of the contracts too
>>51435099
1. he's a rag
2. he's only ever put up more than 40 once and it was in 06-07
>>51435150
>cantpucks
shit team etc.
>>51434830
Sens gave us king Alfredo
>he is kill anyway
>>51435173
but rags genuinely aren't as bad as /hoc/ makes them seem
>>51435254
the probably the 10th best team in the league
>>51435268
not even. they're definitely top five
>>51435035
>you'll never be jew
Canada > USA
>>51435254
>>51435268
>>51435280
>rags
>>51435280
are you an expert?
>>51435307
no I just pay attention
You faggots like to talk shit about the Wild and say (wrongly I might add) that we aren't a top 5 team. Well let me tell you something: every team that would predominately be listed in the /hoc/ top five got worse this offseason with the exception of the Kings who remained unchanged for the large part and the Wild who have added even more pieces and bettered the team.
>Blackhawks got worse
>Kings got mehh
>Boston will regress
>St. Louis pffffftttttttt
>Anaheim, are you fucking kidding me
>Stars/Avalanche, who gives a shit
>Habs are not as good as the Wild
>Shittburgh and other lEastern trash
If I was GM, I'd rather have Stamkos over Crosby
>>51435305
>>51435254
>>51435268
>>51435280
>rags
/hoc/ who is a player that will crack 80pts for the first time this season?
Voracek
Duchene
Benn
>>51435280
>rags
>not a shit team/franchise
>>51435280
>rags
>top 5
TOP LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
>>51435356
Benn
>>51435342
Kings will be even better next year with the emergence of Toffoli and Pearson, maturation of Doughty and Carter going back to center full time
>>51435356
Benn
>flyers & avs
>good
>>51435342
>this desperate minnishit damage control
admit it bro, wild a shit, vikings a shit, twins a shit, twolves a shit
>rags
>>51435343
I wish you were the gm of le froggy team with shit opinions like that
>Chicago STILL waaaay over the cap
why is this allowed?
>>51435342
>mild
>>51435362
>>51435367
>>51435305
>>51435404
>can only spout memes instead of refuting
You know it's true.
Lundqvist is the among best goaltenders out there right now.
>>51435356
pic related
>>51435390
Wild are actually very very fucking good, and if you watched Bridgewater yesterday you will see we will make a run at the NFC North this year. Twins are shit though, but still have one of the best farms in baseball (if not the best) and TWolves got a new superstar who is in a comfy atmosphere. No huge pressure, and a market similar to Canada
>>51435437
>rags
kek
>>51435381
and Muzzin
#fancystats say he's very underrated
solid defenseman
also full season of Gaborik
>>51435418
Chiraq is only $2.2M over, Filthy is nearly $5M over
>>51435439
>market similar to Canada
So one that will never EVER support a top 5 team ever again?
>>51435437
>>51435367
>>51435362
>rags
>>51435437
>Lundqvist is the among best goaltenders
>29th in SV% last season
>rags
>>51435437
>LUNDSHIT
>LUNDPADS
>PADQVIST
>PADSHIT
LELMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>51435437
>lol nash
>traded 2 1st rounders for a 38 year old
>lost stralman
>lucky to get to cup final
wild card team next year
>>51435469
oh god I can hardly wait. Dynasty confirmed
>>51435504
OH GOD WHAT
>rags
>>51435439
Bridgewater is shit as are all black QBs
Wild were a fluke last year and won't make the playoffs this year
>>51435485
For basketball dumbdumb. He grew up in Canada so Minnesota isn't some huge culture shock full of bix noods and yes men entourage. That's the reason his last year in college ball was so uneventful. Wasn't comfy. My cousin knows him pretty well
>>51435521
>implying 35+ year old players can't be good
gr8 b8
>lucky to get to a cup final
funny, we did it with ease
>>51435504
bahahahahaahahahahahahahaha
>padqvist
>no ring no king
>lel rags
>>51435504
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
>>51435536
Did you watch, anon? I suggest you watch.
And I'd take out a fucking mortgage and bet that shit on the Wild making the playoffs, you saying they won't is preposterous and nothing more
>>51435504
>system babby
>>51435524
yup my money's on them next year
blackcocks and the rest can't get on their level
>>51435552
>we
And you got gentleman's swept with ease
>>51435559
You know nothing about hockey, you've never stepped foot on the ice in your life
And all black qbs are destined to fail
>preseason
>>51435491
did they die?
>>51435552
>did it with ease
>took 7 games to beat the flyers, 2 of which without their main goalie
>took 7 games to beat the penguins
>had to run price to beat the habs
>got BTFO when they had to face a real goalie
>>51435609
do you even know the background behind that pic?
>>51435644
rekt
>rags
>rags
>>51435644
it was 3 games w/o mason
lol last thread cantpucks get BTFO
now it's the
>rags
/hoc/ is alive and well
>>51435686
even worse
>>51435620
lol what m8? you're fucking retarded.
shit my fucking rolllerblades are probably better than your skates
>>51435644
>>took 7 games to beat the flyers, 2 of which without their main goalie
>>took 7 games to beat the penguins
>>had to run price to beat the habs
A win is a win. The conditions don't matter. When was the last time your favorite team made it to a final mate :^)
>>got BTFO when they had to face a real goalie
No one got BTFO
It was a close game
>>51435698
lel I bet faggot
what's your rollerblade setup?
>>51435627
Worse than death -- they became a metaphor for the >rags
>rags
>>51435647
I do! It's just wonderfully symbolic
>rags
>>51435708
My team made it to the final last year
And mopped the floor with the >rags in 5 games
:^)
>>51435708
>A win is a win
Turns out the rags should've been going for more like 4 wins
You know, like how many the Kings won out of the 5 you played
>rags
>>51435743
One of the Kings scouts died in 9/11 and they brought the cup to the memorial. I crey evry teim
>rags
>>51435759
Mexicunt bandwagoner detected
>>51435802
>One
>>51435809
Say it my face ese I bet you don't even bang
>>51435828
oops forgot there were two
>>51435739
B-Bauer Vapor XXR Lites?
actually Nike Bauer cause I got them in high school
Markus Naslund, Trevor Linden, and Pavel Bure Stanley Cups combined: 0
Colin Fraser Stanley Cups: 3
>>51435922
>hongriot chinkcucks
>>51435898
lol I actually used to have those, then I bought a pair of NB x30s and mounted sprungs on them
If you've never tried sprungs they're worth the money, they simulate skating on ice even better than the old bauer rockers
>>51435834
>lying about being a kings fan
no one can be this degenerate
>hate a team simply because its coach was fired by your team and went to the Stanley Cup Finals the next year
>use the 9/11 Memorial as a vehicle to express your hatred
>mock a national tragedy because your team fired a coach
>being this incomprehensibly pathetic
>>51435922
>putting players names on the cup who didn't play a single playoff game due being a healthy scratch
>>51435989
You clearly don't know who I am do you
My name is Spencer
>>51435973
Will look into that, thanks m9.
These ones tear up my ankles pretty fucking good though, not gonna lie. Got scars from them
>>51435998
Bro what are you talking about?
Are you sure you know which team brought the cup to the 9/11 memorial? And why exactly they did it?
>>51436044
:^(
>>51436051
No problem bro, its sprunghockey.com for more info
peace
>>51436066
See
>>51435743
>It's just wonderfully symbolic
>>51436044
stop with this silly meme
>>51435998
>being this incomprehensibly pathetic
>rags
>>51436112
Not a Rangers fan. I live on the opposite end of the country. But you're complete trash.
>>51436100
It is symbolic.
>hate a team simply because its coach was fired by your team and went to the Stanley Cup Finals the next year
>use the 9/11 Memorial as a vehicle to express your hatred
It was the canucks that fired AV, not the Kings
therefore the canucks did not bring the cup to the 9/11 memorial
And it wasn't to mock a national tragedy, it was to honor the two Kings staff members who died in 9/11
>>51436100
>>51436135
Look they did it again this year lel
>rags
>>51436148
you could argue what the Kings did eventually caused AV to be fired
>>51436148
>missing the point this badly
Holy fucking Christ..,
>>51431521
Nigga, Kessel's career is shit. He's a premium, luxury piece on a team full of plugs, run by plugs and supported by plugs and smelly riff-raff.
>>51436148
>trying to talk sense to a mad raggot
Your heart's in the right place, bro, but you're wasting your time
>>51436161
At least we can all continue to laugh at the Canucks, a team that has never won, and never will win, anything.
>>51436180
What is your point then?
You clearly said it was an act of hatred based off the firing of a coach, when it's a completely different coach, team and reason for doing it?
Are you ok?
>>51436216
Calling 9/11 symbolic in the context of how the Rangers' season ended, you unbelievably retarded fuck.
>Ragcouver Can'tpucks
>>51436243
Ah I get it now, you're a completely assdevasted cocksucking faggot
Here's a picture for you, stay mad
>>51436315
>being this fucking dumb
My sides.
>>51436243
No no no, it's the Kings bringing the Cup to the 9/11 memorial that's symbolic
I mean, if 9/11 was going to be symbolic of how the rags' season ended, it would have to be FOUR planes crashing into buildings
>>51436333
>being this retarded
>getting completely anallydominated over someone's comment on 4chan
MY SIDES
>>51436366
>failing to understand something plainly obvious
>n-no y-you're the r-retard
>>51436406
>get completely buttblasted by lol i trol u
>achieve a new level of autistic rage on a laotian puppet show image board
holy shit i'm dying here
pathetic
>>51436247
>Vanloser
>Vanpooper
>Sadcouver
>Nolucks
>Can'tpucks
>Shitnucks
>Can'tcups
>watching the Aussie ice hockey league live
>quality of play is low
>enjoyable nonetheless
>having a beer with my father, young couple sits in the chairs next to us to view the game
>qt blonde with a stunning body, catches my attention right away, struggling to focus on match
>her bf is a 5'5 manlet wearing a Devils jersey
>can smell his B.O from 95 feet away, smells like stale taco juice and toejam
>mfw even a fucking Broduer loving faggot can snag a qt in Australia
>>51436447
>>51436447
He's probably rich or that is his sister
>>51436447
...we have an ice hockey league?!?!?
I know there is a baseball league, but ice hockey wtf
>>51436447
:^)
>he has no gf
>he mad as fuck
>>51436490
>games are only 50 minutes long
lol australia.
>>51436490
nigga, even Kuwait has an Ice hockey team
>>51436515
15,15,20. Confusing, but the entire league is fun to watch since it's all pure aggression and no technical skills
>>51436540
based Mexican hockey team
>>51436441
>laotian puppet show image board
oh god lol
>>51431165
Rangers reporting in
>>51436694
>rags
>>51436694
>rags
>>51436694
Second rangers fan here.
>>51436710
>kongs
>>51436770
>rags fans greentexting the Kings
you can't do that
>>51436770
>pre-inconsolability
>rags
>>51436770
I hope this picture doesn't trigger you :)
>>51436783
Too late nerd :^)
>>51436762
>that picture
fukken saved
>>51436603
Not that confusing.
Kids here play 15 15 20, up until Bantam if I recall correctly. Might be different now.
>>51436809
Hey isn't that the guy from this picture?
:^)
>rags
>>51436809
>head and shoulders
Shouldn't he be using this?
>rags
>>51436799
No. Maybe you're just so insecure about your team's abilities that you can't handle the fact that they lose sometimes. Shit happens.
>>51436843
Why, yes it is. *tips fedora*
Look, if we are going to shitpost two months before the first game; We are going to Shitpost right.
East:
1.Boston
2.Pittsburgh
3.Montreal
4.Columbus
5.Tampa
6.NYR
7.Detroit
8.Philadelphia
West
1.Chicago
2.Anaheim
3.St. Louis
4.LA
5. Dallas
6. San Jose
7. Colorado
8. Edmonton
(Yah, Suck it Minny)
>>51436865
My team just won the Stanley Cup, and thus I have no insecurities :^)
Shame the rags will never get to finish that picture of the cup on the wall