What is the most rewarding job/career a mathematics major can pursue ?
>what are the top tier careers for a mathematics major ?
>>8197833
probably crypto researcher for the NSA
>>8197833
First finish high school, kid.
>>8197833
I don't think someone can do well in math with that kind of spirit. Either you study math because you like/love it either you do engineering/business studies.
>>8197841
I reject this opinion of yours, because it doesn't matter how much you're being compensated - at the end of the day, you'll always know that what you are working on is being used by the god-damned NSA. And if you've got your mind right, you'll feel kinda bad about that - even when they do pick up the periodic terrorist.
/sci/ won't like this (muh money), but for me, the right answer is some blend of teacher and/or researcher, so a professor. I enjoy teaching math to others and I've been told I'm good at it.
middle school math teacher
>>8197854
The only honest answer ITT.
is a bs in math a meme?
Be a wizard, best vocation for anyone good at calculation
>>8197833
>What is the most rewarding job/career a mathematics major can pursue ?
Education if you aren't autistic.
I taught for 2 years as I got my MS (taught, not TA'd) and got a job at a small college afterwards. I don't do research for the school (I do that in my free time, which is ample), I just teach calc, discrete math, algebra, etc about three courses per semester.
The first benefit is that it's easy as FUCK. Barely any work at all. Once you have notes prepared, you can glance at them hungover 10 minutes before class and still give a good lecture.
The second benefit is that it actually is rewarding. Every day I teach I try to convince my students that mathematics is an intellectually rewarding pursuit and every semester I get a few kids who like math for the first time in their life, or see it as interesting for the first time in their life, or at the very least now have a stronger toolkit to approach whatever they are interested in doing. It's fun. You can make a game out of it.
>>8198319
The fact that this is your goal is wonderful. Good job and thank you.
>>8198308
wow software development and being an actuary sound meh. but i love math so
>>8198319
>Education if you aren't autistic.
What if you're an asocial loner? Fairly sure I'm not autistic, if I was I'd be very low-scoring high-functioning.
>>8197850
Math MSc here. I work in Marketing Analytics. I often think I'd be way happier in academia even though it's at best 1/3 of the pay
>>8197850
Elliptic curves is not a new field of research.
So it doesn't matter whether he works for the NSA or not at this point.
>>8199912
Again, you're coming at this from exactly the wrong direction. The point is not exactly what is being done in terms of "math-work" and whether it's cutting-edge or not. The point is that you should be somewhat bummed that your work product is helping the NSA, of all entities. Even something like "Marketing Analytics" >>8198525 , if it's confined to the private sector, is preferable, and that's really saying something (marketing, ugh).
>>8197833
Teacher
>>8198319
I just wanted to say that although "math for education" gets a bad rap, I have a great amount of respect for those that do teach math and even more for those that revel in it.
Thank you.
>>8197833
>pic of apples
back to /ck/ with you fatty
>>8198493
You may well grow out of that bud.
>>8200384
>apples
get your eyes tested cunt
>>8197850
How much is the realistic pay for a mathematics professor? I can't really find anything definitely accurate on it, but I'm definitely considering going into it (I'm in college right now).
You can do anything with a math degree - both dork stem stuff and front office business jobs. It would be better if your degree was from Yale or Duke. The greatest factor in your future success is your personality. Why do you think the Dartmouth/Harvard (Douglas M. Hodge) man runs PIMCO.
>>8197841
Why shouldn't I work for the N.S.A.? That's a tough one, but I'll take a shot. Say I'm working at N.S.A. Somebody puts a code on my desk, something nobody else can break. Maybe I take a shot at it and maybe I break it. And I'm real happy with myself, cause I did my job well. But maybe that code was the location of some rebel army in North Africa or the Middle East. Once they have that location, they bomb the village where the rebels were hiding and fifteen hundred people I never met, never had no problem with, get killed. Now the politicians are sayin', "Oh, send in the Marines to secure the area" cause they don't give a shit. It won't be their kid over there, gettin' shot. Just like it wasn't them when their number got called, cause they were pullin' a tour in the National Guard. It'll be some kid from Southie takin' shrapnel in the ass.
And he comes back to find that the plant he used to work at got exported to the country he just got back from. And the guy who put the shrapnel in his ass got his old job, cause he'll work for fifteen cents a day and no bathroom breaks. Meanwhile, he realizes the only reason he was over there in the first place was so we could install a government that would sell us oil at a good price. And, of course, the oil companies used the skirmish over there to scare up domestic oil prices. A cute little ancillary benefit for them, but it ain't helping my buddy at two-fifty a gallon.
>>8201085
the engine would have never been invented in a world of (You)s
>>8200867
I'm not a professor kek
last I checked, baseline professor salary at the /average/ uni is something like 100-200K, that's not including whatever other projects or side stuff (you're always supposed to have projects and side stuff) you've got going on.
>>8200867
That's more than sufficient pay. That's it, then, for me! I know what to do with my life! Fucking. Finally.
>>8201884
>>8201395
Don't tell him lies please, math professors dont get paid nearly that well.
>>8197833
Why did you ask the same question twice?
>why did you ask the same thing two times?
>>8200475
/sci/ really is the worst board to joke on
>>8201956
>i was pretending to be retarded Xdddd
Just graduated with a BS in Math. Going into a 2 years MS in Stats program in the fall. What are some career options for me when I graduate? Is it all data science stuff? How does that pay and where would I work? I think working in a casino would be fun.
>>8197833
Shameless self bump
>>8201974
good question. bump
>>8201909
is this a joke? hold on. a physics professor ASSISTANT, that's right, a fucking ASSISTANT gets paid 80k a year here. how the fuck is a full blown math prof making less????
>>8201974
ask your fucking faculty are you stupid? who goes on a trap image dump website for life advice?
>>8202112
Not him but my math department said "lol idk".
Tbh I think many mathematics departments are so isolated that they don't care about what their students end up doing, when I asked the same question everyone directed me to a guy, and the guy told me to either get a PhD(from a better university) or change my focus.
Unfortunately the tenure system has made departments no longer accountable, the only way to fix them is start cutting funding until they demonstrate their worth.
>>8202217
Stat is all over the place. Hell, a fun job to have would be to work in sabermetrics for some MLB team. Dunno what the pay would look like, but I can't imagine it's bad.
Seriously though, a shitton of researchers will pull in a stat specialist just to design and deal with the analysis, marketing companies love stat people, you can do quality control stuff in industrial settings, consult and teach business people slightly more advanced analysis methods than doing averages (seriously, time weighted averages are like magic to many of these people), so on and so forth.
>>8202250
>offer a degree in applied mathematics
>have no direction to get into doing applied mathematics for a career.
Yea, no. It's not the students fault that the departments are putting out misleading degrees which everyone on the inside knows are pointless.
Like I said, mathematics departments are unfortunately isolated entities and most probably fall further in the liberal arts spectrum then sciences because of their highly insular nature, not that sciences are any better for jobs.
>>8202265
you can blame everyone else, but the fact is you've been lazy these years, you haven't bothered to get an internship anywhere, you haven't picked up skills to get you employed, and you haven't the faintest idea of what to do because you never bothered.
>>8202308
I'm getting a masters degree in something more valuable(and ironically I was one of the departments best students) but that's not the point of the discussion.
The question is if mathematics degrees(applied or not) actually lead into careers doing mathematics and the answer to that question is no.
Which makes the title "applied mathematics" degree even more ironic.
Like I wrote, mathematics at this point falls far closer to liberal arts then science, the departments are disconnected from anything in the real world and none of them have any drive to change it because they aren't being held accountable. They truly don't give a fuck where there students end up, they have tenure - why change?
>>8201909
I would still happily teach math for this kind of money, although admittedly that seems below-average to me. High-school teachers get this kind of money in certain districs (i.e. the ones I've heard of).
perhaps certain math profs are simply spergs who can't stick up for themselves in a negotiation the same way a marketing professor or a finance chad who got his PhD might.
>>8202348
held accountable? for where the students choose to go? are you fucking insane?
mathematics degrees taken by people who like mathematics and want to do mathematics definitely lead into careers in mathematics
you're just a lazy, entitled, unskilled person.
>>8202236
>sabermetrics
Every time I see this word, I'm disappointed that it doesn't mean a rigorous approach to comparing dick size.
anyone have a career in biostats, data analytics?
i'm looking for odd jobs on upwork, trying to figure out how i can put my aptitude for problem solving to use.
>>8202807
Turn sex into a sport, analyze metrics, and make that shit happen.
>>8197833
>what are the top tier careers for a mathematics major ?
Actuary
>>8202831
that is bullshit
literally no one who is an actuary likes being an actuary
everyone who is one says the same thing: "i like the pay and job security but holy shit this job fucking sucks"
>>8198319
pls be my teacher
>>8202834
then why is it the number 1 job according to some poll
>>8203723
Because asston of money.
I don't know where you're at in your life, but at some point, the vast majority of people have to choose between making money and doing something that they find fulfilling. The people who choose the former often use the money to fund fulfilling things in other aspects of their life. People who choose the latter often don't need as much money because they're not looking to fund such a thing. Yes, there are people who have both, but it's not that common.
Anyway, up to a point, money can get people to put up with a ridiculous amount of bullshit. Hell, look at the insanity that doing something like working on a drilling rig is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkqpEXy0frE
(skip to around a minute and realize that you're seeing three inch pipe spaghetting out of the ground) -- and that's not even common enough of an event to worry about -- it's a job where everything is heavy enough to maim you at best, everything is under enough pressure to kill you if it fails, and a lot of the stuff you deal with will blow you up or just outright kill you if you breathe it...but it's a way to make a lot of money in a relatively short amount of time which draws a lot of people who are well qualified to work in other fields. I mean, how does making $160k working only six months out of the year sound to you?
>>8201967
What is the sarcasm smiley again? Is it:
:^)
>>8198493
There is hope. You can grow out of being "asocial loner". Just as mathematics and other things you can study require some maturation, social things do too. Some get rewarded by their brain doing tough math when they 15 but brain reward system doesn't encourage social activity until 25-30 and for some other people it's the complete opposite.
Top tier jobs for math majors are jobs like:
Data Scientist
Big Data
Software Developers
Crypto
Professors
Industry Researchers
Bros should i go for a bachelors in applied math and have no job offers. Or CS and have job offers lined up? I love math and i kinda dislike CS but moneys a big motivator
>>8201085
thanks Will
Is a Statistics BS viable?
>>8197833
>ctrl+f
>"300k"
>nothing
wow /sci/ newfags have replaced you
>>8204566
>>8204134
>>8202831
>>8202816
For data analysis , actuarial sciences, cryptography, etc... is a bachelor's in Math sufficient or is a Master's required?
And if so Stats? Applied Math?
Any experience with Data Analysis Masters? (I've seen it at some colleges it does exist)
>>8202348
Also, you are an idiot. Not sure what kind of fucked up experience you had but if youtruly are who you say you are, you should know better than 2 spout all dat bull$hit nigga.
Become a leather jacket wearing chaos theorist who bangs chicks and gets invited to dinosaur theme parks.
>>8197833
Programming jobs
>autist thinking they will have pure maths-centered careers
lel
>>8205399
Lol. Looks like someone didn't have the brains to do a mathematics degree.
Keep crying. Hahaha
>>8205411
>mathematics degree
>any undergrad degree
>brains
LEL
self-important undergrad detected
>>8205425
So there exists no 4 year degree which requires brains?
That's some razor sharp edge there kid.
>>8197833
creating your own companies and becoming the richest person on the planet
>>8205662
>there exists no 4 year degree which requires brains
*tips fedora*
Is a math minor useful at all?
I just like math and wanna minor in it with materials engineering degree
>>8198319
Your life is one of my career goals, but with physics, and with a receiving a PhD rather than an MS. I doubt that I could be a great researcher, but I do think that I both can and would have the drive to be a great teacher, especially at a small school where students have probably never understood how science and math can be beautiful.
What would you say the career prospects for professors at a school like yours are? Are they like what it's like to try and get a professorship at a research school?
>>8204775
literally came in here for this
