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Ok, /sci/, who is the smartest man who ever lived ? Who is it ? And how did he contribute to this world ?
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define smart
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>>8179179
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jacob barnett
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GauB
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>>8179232
/thread
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>>8179179
chris langnan
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>>8179179
obama

>pretending to be a dumb nigger
>gets elected to the most powerful position in the world
> shits the country up
>gets re-elected
>people (especially overseas) think he's the best thing ever

only a genius could get away with deception at this level
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>>8179179
That would be Isaac Newton without a question.
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>>8179242
Terrible choice
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>>8179201
This or Euler/Jacobi
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>>8179242
t. high school calculus kid
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>>8179233
shit choice from a shit poster, what a surprise?
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>>8179331
Its advanced math ok?
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>>8179179
Me.
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>>8179242
this
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Probably Jon von Neumann.
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Socrates obviously.

Socrates, Plato and Aristotle. No Doubt
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>>8179179

My nigga Da Vinci
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Neumann

Literally no competition
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Jon Von Neumann
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"Man" ok hardmode /sci/
Who is the smartest women who ever lived
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>>8179416
>>8179459
Why?
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>>8179463
That astrophysicist who discovered the stars are mostly hydrogen
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>>8179463
Emmy Noether.
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This is impossible to know. In Von Neumann's own words, the smartest person to ever live in terms of raw intellect most likely lived and died unknown and in poverty.
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hard to say. a lot of people say Von Neumann.
i'm going to throw Ramanujan out there.
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>>8179463
That isn't hardmode at all.
See >>8179478
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probably jacob "triple integral" barnett
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>>8179463

see

>>8179232
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>>8179321
>Invented calculus
>Discovered gravity
>Formulated the laws of motion

>not smart
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>>8179478
She's my personal pick for smartest person alive or dead.
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>>8179532
>invented calculus
Leibniz is rolling in his grave right now
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Nikola Tesla because he could do integral calculus in his head when he was a child and recite entire books from memory. He invented the radio (not Marconi), the remote control, the induction motor,Tesla coil, neon lights, flourescent lights, lasers... pretty much everything.
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>>8179855
it's funny

reading about him makes him seem like an idiot

he didn't like math/theory, didn't believe in atomic theory (electrons included) or einstein's relativity, and wanted to impose eugenics to make a superhuman race
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>>8179855
T. Somebody who can't do integral calculus
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>>8179179
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>>8179179
if not penrose pic related
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>>8179179
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that it was Isaac Newton.
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>>8179868
Sounds like /sci/.
If Reddit didn't love him so much, or 4chan didn't have a kneejerk reaction to hating everything reddit, he might be the king of /sci/
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>>8179331
>>8179321
Fuck off, coming up with something like Newton did is insanely hard. Read about him and you'll see how the man was fucking genius.
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>>8180079
Leibniz notation is better, Newton BTFO.
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>>8179240
Pretty much
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>>8179179
Euler pretty much created modern mathematics, so him.
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>>8179240
>obama
>shitting the country up worse than bush or reagan

alabama sisterfucker detected
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>>8179240
And YOU figured it all out.
Must be YOU then.
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Cosmological Argument
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>>8180074
jacob barnett is the king of /sci/

and tesla is retarded in terms of /sci/ not to mention an engineer too
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>>8179997
Just nitpicking from a MUH LINGUISTICS standpoint, but I believe it's a lowercase "t" which denotes the proper response for the off-hand "regards".

t. Linguistics Minor
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>>8179855
Nice meme.

Exaggerated nonsense, the cult of Tesla hits people so hard I had someone actually try and tell me he was magic. And not some retard either, he was studying the same undergrad as me.

He was an inspired engineer with great ideas but farrrrrr from the most intelligent person ever.

People like Gauss, Euler, Newton/Leibniz (depending on your outlook on life), Darwin (I know I will get hate for that), Curie, Me etc etc would be up there in sci and math.

Figures like Alexander the great, Genghis Khan, Confucius, Shakespeare, Homer, J.S. Bach would also be considered rare geniuses in their respective fields and should not be discounted.

It depends what mood I am is as to which one I land on; if I am using pretty much any field on Maths it is Gauss, if I am using genome models to predict phylogeny (which is a lot of the time) its Darwin or Me, if I am listenieng to the Goldberg variations it is J.S. Bach.

You may as well ask "who is the most attractive person in history".
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>>8180498
Audrey Hepburn?
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>>8179242
>>8180079
Newton was incrediblely clever, sure, he produced one of the most, if not the most, significant piece of physics in history. Newton was also fucking mental and lifted ideas from others without every giving them due credit they deserve.
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Aristotle definitly. He could legit say that he "invented" logic
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>>8179330
>Jakobi

What the fuck are you smoking?
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>>8180498
>darwin

We get it you eat doritos
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>>8180511
fuck you are correct, I take it back.
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Its me u facking fags, im gonna change the world
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>>8179232
STOP LEARNING SO THAT YOU CAN START THINKING ANON ITS SO SIMPLE GOD BE ORIGINAL AND DROP OUT OF SCHOOL AND THINK ANOOOOOONN
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>>8179179
Its me
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>>8179179
Hard to say. It really does depend on your definition of the word, "smart." Is a guy who has an IQ that is off the charts but never invented anything still considered smarter than someone with an average IQ who invented many things? Not to mention the fact that genius can take many different forms and is note relegated solely to science and mathematics. Was Mozart "smarter" than your run-of-the-mill scientist? It's all way too tough to call with any degree of certainty.
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>>8179179

In my honest opinion, Isaac Newton
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>>8179855

Tesla is a meme
Just like the car
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Hello my name is William James Sidis and I am one of the "smartest" humans that ever existed, I had the mental potential of a fucking zerg mastermind but never did shit worth remembering except maybe learning a ton of languages, I died in oblivion, some consider me to be what Nietzsche called in his book "So Spoke Zarathustra" the Homo Sapiens-Sapiens-Sapiens, or the super human, the next step for mankind, nevertheless I died never to be remembered for what I was and still am, and will be for a very long time, The smartest man who has ever lived as of today you motherfucking faggot OP
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>>8181020

>yfw this is the opinion a lot of people unironically have about themselves

Y-you're not one of those are you anons?
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>>8181029
Of course not sempai. I know I'm not the smartest but I intend to do shit with my life.
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>you try to invade this guy's country
>he incinerates you before you can even see him

no doubt it is this motherfucker
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>>8179179
Since Newton has been mentioned I might go wth J.R. Oppenheimer, simply for his ability to successfully manage that many nerds working on the Gadget while Groves kept the heat off of him for being called a commie plant
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Paul Dirac! Schroedinger BTFO
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>>8179460
>>8179416
>>8179459

This

You dipshits wouldn't be able to shitpost without him
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>>8180498
>Shakespeare
Not even close. He's esteemed in the English speaking world but his French, Italian and German contemporaries wrote miles above his level.
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>>8179868
What's wrong with eugenics?
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>>8179179
me and I contribute by shitposting
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>>8181788
Other than the fact that it's a waste of time?
Nothing.
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>>8179179
>who is the smartest man who ever lived ?
some unknown faggot
>how did he contribute to this world ?
probably didn't
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>>8179478
probably to be quite honest
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>>8179855
he was french btw
>>8180063
great mind but not the smartest
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Whoever invented the wheel
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>>8179179
Man?

Why not woman?
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>>8181097
Oppenheimer's contributions are vastly overstated there are at least a dozen people who deserve at least equal credit with him.
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God.
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>>8179479
That statement alone makes von Neumann, the smartes person to ever live in terms of raw intellect who's known.
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Jacob Barnett
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This is retarded without some criteria. If we're just talking about enormously creative influential minds, it's impossible to say. How does one compare the contributions of Archimedes to Newton to Grothendieck? Then how do you compare those to Plato/Aristotle, Kant, Wittgenstein? And then you have all of the enormously creative writers, artists, inventors, physicists. It's really comes down to "Lul I think X would have been harder to come up with than Y"--judgments made by people who couldn't have come up with either...

On the other hand, if we are purely talking BRAIN POWER--the power to quickly learn, to quickly understand something, assess a problem and solve it, etc... then the answer is unquestionably John von Neumann.

Also, just to rant, while gauss and Euler are top tier, I feel like Lagrange doesn't get enough love out of the older mathematicians. Also, modern day analysts in general don't get enough love. Differential geometers, number theorists, and algebraic geometers get all of the glory. If tao wasn't a child prodigy who proved theorems about number theory, he probably wouldn't even be that famous. Why do you think it is the internet shows so much reverence for geometers and number theorists, yet other super famous mathematicians like Lax, Nirenberg (well deserved Abel prize winners), Pierre-Louis Lions, Jean Bourgain, Brezis etc. are not so well known on internet communities? They've all contributed AT LEAST as much as Tao, and I'd argue far, far more.
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>>8182977
I am become bait
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>>8179179
I'd vote for Lao Tzu.
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>>8179179
>*was
The first Chad/Daquan
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>>8179179
Kary Mullis

Invent PCR while working in bakery
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This is the sole valid option.
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Plato
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>>8179463

The one who makes my eggs without bitching
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>>8179179
Newton for inventing fucking science
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Leibniz. He contributed to almost every important field of human knowledge ez pz.
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>>8179416
> Not creating your own computer based on Harvard architecture
Pleb af
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>>8179463
Ada Lovelace
And she got that ass
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The smartest man who ever lived.
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Tie between J. Robert Oppenheimer and Wernher von Braun
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Nikola Tesla, disagree with me and I'll run you over in a tesla with tesla coils on it for cool effects and tesla cannons made by Winston on the hood to shock you boi.
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Alan turing had some pretty fucking out there levels of problem solving

But desu if ramanujan hadnt died he wouldve become without a doubt in my mind the most agreed upon as smartest man to live
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>>8179532
>"discovered gravity"
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>>8183210
>literally a chink
have you ever met a yellowsushiman irl?
they're dumber than a pebble
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>>8180498
>Goldberg Variations
how is babby's first day listening to classical?
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>>8180130
Aquinas was a genius in his time, but I think he was outclassed by Wittgenstein and Heidegger
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>>8181788
the surviving 'super race' gets wiped out due to lack of genetic variation or alternatively stagnates due to genetic inbreeding and winds up less intelligent than they started
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Shinichi Mockizuki, i'm not even memeing either,just look at this shit

this is the math of the 25th century in the now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HCz1tFqIcs
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>>8180130
Any argument that god must exist is stupid and invalid, but nothing is worse than the ontological argument. The cosmological argument doesn't work because it doesn't explain what created god, or how something could exist outside of causality (or if something can exist out of causality that could have been an explosion with no need for any god's involvement), but it may as well be gold compared to the ontological argument.
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>>8180092
I'd say Euler. Pascal was a genius, but unfortunately christianity kept him from really contributing to mathematics. If he was an atheist, I'm sure he would have made some truly incredible contributions (in addition). I would also argue Leibniz.
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>>8179855
Except most of that stuff is not verified, more likely exaggerated by people who want it to be true. If you read any credible accounts that have sorted through primary sources instead of regurgitating the legends people propagate you would see him as more of an idiot than not. He was smart and deserves to be called a genius for what he did accomplish but he spent most of his time embellishing himself in order to sell his ideas, a lot of which were completely ungrounded in science.
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>>8188872
Yeah if you create a small "super race" that could be a problem. I'm just advocating killing off the weak. Maybe the lowest .01% averaged across any set of 'valuable' traits. Can't really go wrong with that
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Human beings have existed for millions of years. I like thinking about the crazy prehistoric geniuses who first figured out stuff like counting, writing, domestication of plants/animals, wheels etc.
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Prophet Muhammad
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