How does the U.S. fair against Europe in science?
>>8159649
They all moved here in the 1930's because Europe sucked so bad. We win.
>>8159649
Today ? Depends on what fields.
However, it's very encouraged and prestigious to have research experience in the USA. At least in France.
From what I've seen people come to us, do a project or two then go back and use fact they worked in us to propel their career forward.
US is better cause more $$
which the only thing that matters these days
>>8159653
only the untermensch
Isn't EU scientific output more comparable to East Asia? North America trumps all in terms of sheer output.
>>8159683
Number of publications per scientist isn't a good index. It might be a good index that the system is pushing scientists to publish more, and this would probably mean more bad science.
Also if you take Eastern Europe reaserch output, it will really drow the european average to be really low.
And why Turkey is Europe, while Norway and Iceland are not, what the hell?
>>8160661
filename says "EU and Turkey"
>>8159649
Depends on the field. The US is a lead player if not THE lead player in many fields.
Money plus brain drain has put the United States far ahead. They still have money as well as elite institutions that produce top level talent while continuing to draw people from overseas.
>>8159683
Yeah it does. North America is more capable of drawing better scientists imo.
Even in Canada 2/3rds of the staff are foreign -born and a ton of postdocs moved here from europe because the academic job market is abysmal.
>>8159653
>1930's
>70 - 80 years ago
At some point your bonus from that time runs out, mostly due to people dying off.
The US is still a leader in basically all scientific fields, but it is steadily losing ground due to the EU and china increasing funding over the last years while the funding stayed relatively constant in the US.
>>8161240
>The US is still a leader in basically all scientific fields
Yeah. But not because of Americans but because of foreign expertise. Good immigrants with know-how. Just like back then when Einstein & co went to the US. Most efforts and inventions weren't done by Americans but from immigrated people.
>>8160680
change it to EU, UK and Turkey.
