Is it conceivable that one day we may derive a scientific proof that life is not worth living? Many primordial illusions are being upset by current science whether it be faith or free will. Why not life itself?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/brilliant-pupils-logical-suicide-1188778.html
Just what was in that note?
>>8114552
> Finding an objective answer to an opinion question
Whether life is worth living is an opinion type question, no stronger than a statement like "Chocolate ice cream is good." Life may not have any higher meaning, but that doesn't mean anything in terms of whether or not it's worth living.
>>8114559
Subjectivity is dead.
>>8114552
>Many primordial illusions are being upset by current science whether it be faith or free will
Just because children on reddit say it doesn't make it true. Science says nothing about free will nor on the existent of God.
>>8114559
Suffering and happiness are quantifiable at the chemical level.
One need only compare their relative frequency.
the funny part is, you don't choose life
the only impossibility of the universe is nothing, existence is a constant
>>8114617
Free will is obviously an unfounded hypothesis though. It's born purely from our minds. It's hard to grasp, because human brains are built to think we're something special, worth surviving. If they weren't, then we'd be more likely to die/not spread genes/not exist into the future. Everything we can observe, leads to the idea that "self" Is an illusion purpetuated by the evolutionary need to survive. we're machines that make other machines, it's just that over 4 billion years, life got so efficient at making copies better and better, that it obtained the ability to realize there's no purpose to keep living life. The only thing stopping us from dying, is the will to go forward. We're made up of billions of tiny organisms. organs, tissue, proteins, chemicals, atoms, sub-atomic particles. All of these things are more an actual entity than "us". To call a human one entity with its own forces, is horrifically inaccurate and not based on fact. "Free will" is nothing. Your brain makes decisions an average of 10 seconds before you're consciously aware of it. These decisions are based purely on genetic coding perfected through natural selection, predictable thought patterns, and past experience. Don't be so fucking engrossed in the game of life, that you forget you're playing a game. you think you have free will, you think you have desires, that change based on how you see fit? It doesn't work like that. It's based on genetic mutation, and what's most likely to get humans to spin off more life before we die. If we don't reproduce, we cease to exist with the passage of time. If we do reproduce, the order of molecules in our DNA bleeds into the future, until the balanced system of balanced systems that is life, gets thrown off balance until the end of time, basically. In this region of time and space.
TL;DR nothing is worth anything, free will is an illusion. humans love to tell themselves lies just to get through the day.
>>8114698
>humans love to tell themselves lies
Anon it's not considered a lie if you really believed it. We've only had evidence of free will's non-existence for a relatively brief time. For the other tens of thousands of years where we've been actively asserting it, we couldn't have known any better.
>>8114652
One can enjoy suffering.
>>8114552
>he taught himself to use his father's shotgun and worked out how to fire it with a wooden spoon
Sounds like a real fucking genius.
>>8114552
there's many different ways to approach the meaning of life, and every way to approach it is based on the circumstances of the person who is answering the question.
explaining the question of "the meaning of life" would literally take an entire philosophy course with a capable professor. it isn't easy since it deals with so much.
>>8114559
If I were to prove that the heliocentric model is entirely bogus and the earth is a stationary flat plane, and imply that we are the center of the universe and possibly lead to the general proof that a creator exists or existed, would that cheer you up and continue to fight in life?
