Opinions?
http://www.nature.com/news/has-a-hungarian-physics-lab-found-a-fifth-force-of-nature-1.19957
>>8101286
You mean the sixth. The fifth is love.
>>8101286
Sure, why not?
Let's wait for outside verification And replication before Nobel prizes are given out.
It's not Telegraph or any of the other usual suspects for mega popsci, and it's not some bullshit "It's THE FUCKING FUTURE NOW" article either.
10/10 would be intrigued again.
>>8101286
I'm skeptical, but it's definitely worth exploring. Could be a very exciting find if true.
>>8101286
Finally, the death of the standard model :^)
We preons now?
>>8101302
I think you mean capitalism.
>>8101493
It would be very funny.
Billions spent on LHC and these unknown guys fuck everything up.
>>8101563
Murphys always right
>17 MeV gauge boson
>current LHC energy is 13 TeV, almost a million times higher
>new gauge boson couples to electrons
We should have found it already considering the heavy ion collisions at CERN.
>arXiv preprint claims it can explain the muon's anomalous magnetic moment
I can't say I'm not intrigued.
>>8101563
i didn't tought of that. Lmao.
>"According to the standard model, physicists should see that the number of observed pairs drops as the angle separating the trajectory of the electron and positron increases"
>"But the team reported that at about 140ยบ, the number of such emissions jumps"
This only further shows that modern physics is a huge steaming pile of dogshit. Pure maths circlejerk which is either untestable because "muh energies are too high" and on the rare occasions when it has to predict something like account for all the energy in the universe it fails miserably.
>>8101493
can anyone say they are satisfied with the standard editions, I always go for the premium so should physics.
>>8102100
topkek
>>8101286
So wait, where is the part where they talk about a new fundamental force? They just seem to be proposing the existence of a new type of particle.
>>8101302
>>8102143
Claiming the existence of a new fundamental boson is exactly synonymous with claiming the existence of a new fundamental force.
>>8101286
>Has a Hungarian physics lab found a fifth force of nature?
What's the name of that law about newspaper headlines that contain questions? They can almost always be answered with "no".
Anyway, until other people have confirmed this it's far more likely that it's just a mistake. Physics in particular has a lot of misses for every hit.
>>8101972
>This only further shows that modern physics is a huge steaming pile of dogshit
Feel free to do better.
>>8101818
>We should have found it already considering the heavy ion collisions at CERN.
They did say that this doesn't contradict previous work. Presumably there's a good reason it didn't show up there.
Maybe it's a range thing? I have no idea.
Centripetal force is real
Island of stability when
As others have pointed out, I too thought the mass seemed kinda low for an undiscovered boson. But I don't understand quantum field theory or the standard model, so idk. Someone explain this shit. How could such a force/boson elude detection from previous measurements at other experiments?
>>8102302
That wins the award for the most autistic quote ever.
>>8102370
Noone understands this shit, not even people who make it up
>experimental results are 3 times higher than expected
>le quarks come in 3 (three) different colors xdddddd
Almost as good as dark energy
>>8102302
This literally means nothing.
>>8103254
> EVERYBODY LOOK AT ME IM SOOOOO SMART! WAY SMARTER THAN THOSE PHYSIC PHAGGOTS XDXD THAT'S WHY I SIT ON 4 CHAN SHITPOSTING INSTEAD OF BEING PAID $100,000'S TODO WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE IM TOO SMART FOR THAT DUUUUHHHHHH XDLMAO
>>8102143
symmetry
>>8101563
It's not like the LHC is useless if the SM is suddenly expanded. Particles will always need smashing, similar to your mom.
>>8105848
It's almost like the LHC was built hoping to find stuff beyond the SM.
>>8102327
Betteridge's law.
>>8101286
>Decent article and thread has sensible replies
Colour me surprised.
>>8102327
>appeal to authority
>>8102302
that one quote killed the entire movie
>>8102318
>exactly synonymous
Why do pedantic autists love incorrectly using such obtuse phrases?
>>8108090
>pedantic autists
I don't know, why?
>>8102302
So is hatred. Or disgust.
>>8108012
movie was already shit, be honest with yourself
