Answer me this:
Why do mosquitoes exist?
>they are annoying
>they are everywhere
>they leave behind itchy bumps
>they carry diseases
they serve no purpose other than to reproduce and die and annoy other forms of life
why do they exist?
here's a better question, would there be any formidable repercussions if we found a way to drive them to extinction?
>>8090872
The question doesn't make sense. Are you implying that animals exist to serve some purpose? Like your car?
>>8090872
>Answer me this:
>Why do humans exist?
>>they are annoying
>>they are everywhere
>>they leave behind tons of trash
>>they carry diseases
>they serve no purpose other than to reproduce and die and annoy other forms of life
>why do they exist?
>>8090872
Gambusia affinis i.e. the mosquitofish. I have seriously heard arguments that eradicating mosquitoes is bad because it will affect the mosquitofish. Even though they eat many other larva and cannot thrive solely on mosquito. Seriously though, this is the only argument i have ever heard against eradicating mosquitoes past some philosophical bullshit PETA level muh right to existence bullshit. Also the way you described their purpose describes most of life in general.
their eggs are tasty for fish n shit senpai
they are probably the most successful species ever to exist on earth.
we should kill them all though.
>>8090872
You can ask the same question about literally any other life form.
Why does anything exists?
Does everything need to have a purpose in order to exist?
>>8090883
>they are probably the most successful species ever to exist on earth.
Ya and Filipinos are the most powerful race on the earth. You obviously cannot into prokaryotes.
>>8090881
humans are altruistic, compassionate, and can empathize
humans help things other than themselves like other animals and the environment
humans are capable of restoring life to gaia and shaping and directing the flow of conciousness and life on earth
humans could save earth from a singularity or meteor impact, making us the most valuable form of life on the planet
misquitoes cant do any of this
>>8090892
>gaia
> shaping and directing the flow of conciousness and life on earth
what if we put vibrators into every pool of still water on the whole world
>>8090897
HOLY SHIT
HUMANS ARE GAIA
>>8090903
you would waste a lot of resources making water ripple while the larva got a free massage. Flowing water is different than vibrating water.
>>8090897
>current year
>still not educated on gaia core
We dont actually know what is at the center of the earth.
It could be a ball of iron (lol), or it could be Gaia, aka mother nature.
If you're a square headed brainlet, you'll go with a ball of iron because of the images the textbooks show illegally (they have no proof)
if you have a high IQ and an open mind, you could maybe consider the possibility that Gaia does exist and resides at the center of earth, where she is able to create life through techtonics
>>8090891
>what are hyperboles
>>8090872
>Why do mosquitoes exist?
Because they fill an environmental niche.
>>8090911
What are they actually?
>>8090907
damn
>>8090908
gaia could very well explain why earth is the only known planet with advanced life
and it would show existence of higher life forms, essentially "gods"
beings who inhabit whole planets and direct their development from within
gaia core theory is more believable than 99% of science and alternative science explanations for earth, the supposed "iron spinning ball" and other stupid ideas by small human minds
>>8090872
Because they're apparently really good at reproducing.
Motherfuckers have been around for 80 million years. Drinking Dinosaur blood, man. Meteor impacts, massive climate and environmental changes, the little bastards keep on truckin'
>>8090908
Nah, its solid FeNi surrounded by molten Fe and Ni with trace elements. A crackerjack box compass will show you this.
>>8090927
or gaia has a magnetic field
>>8090930
Or the reptilians are using powerful electromagnets powered by the geothermal energy of the core to project mind control waves from their Jewish designed Illuminati mind control devises.
>>8090920
"gaia could very well explain why earth is the only known planet with advanced life"
Or, maybe the universe is enormous? We've discovered 3500 planets outside the solar system so far. There are fuckin' 10^24 stars out there, let alone planets.
Think about that ratio for a second.
>>8090938
what was the probability of abiogenesis again? 10^200?
>>8090938
Why would you use quotation marks instead of
>greentext?
Reddit much?
>>8090942
>implying anyone really has all the variables involved lined up to do an accurate measure of probability
>>8090942
what is the probability of existence of a deity, you fucking hack?
>>8090945
reddit uses meme arrow syntax, have you visited the internet lately
>>8090953
Well, I'm on it right now and nice job explaining how reddit works. You should go back.
>>8090952
unknown, obviously. However, one could argue that it would be the inverse of the probability of intelligent life evolving from lifeless chemicals on a habitable planet without one
>>8090970
perhaps, if that probability was an exact value rather than a naively huge upper bound
which brings us back to the original point: your whole argument is worthless rhetoric
>>8090996
that's fair but either we exist with a form of creator or we exist without one, the only other option is that we do not exist
>>8090960
sorry for the insufficient explanation, i googled a wikihow for you, because i thoroughly enjoy explaining to morons that social websites i do not give a fuck about have influenced each other
>>8091012
a tautology is slightly less pointless than an unfalsifiable claim.
>>8091028
how is that a tautology, the only way the probability changes is if we assume the existence of the multiverse
>>8090942
>cells literally nothing but chemistry
>what is probability of chemistry
worthless.
>>8091034
>either we exist with a form of creator or we exist without one
for the sake of simplicity let existence be a given, let P = there is a creator, not P = there is not a creator,
>either P or not P
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middle
>>8091041
>if I throw all these puzzle pieces in the same general direction then they will all fall into place perfectly
>it's literally nothing but physics
>>8090892
Dat moment when you can't tell if bait or really stupid.
9/10 bait(stupidity, as applicable)
>>8091049
>atoms are nonreactive and inert much like cardboard puzzle pieces
>>8090942
The chance of the life surviving AFTER abiogenesis is probably much lower. Life probably spawns all the time and just dies immediately.
>>8091048
okay yeah, what I said was basically law of thought, but that kindof supports the assertion of the probability of creationism being a 'naively huge upper bound', don't you think?
>>8091052
>the natural tendency of atoms is to assemble as a functioning, self-repairing, self-nourishing, reproducing system
>>8091069
we were originally discussing the probability of abiogensis which you stated was the inverse of the probability of creationism, and i emphasized that that is the inverse of a probability we do not know, not the inverse of the upper bound.
you then backpedaled to the claim that well at least we can agree either creationism or not creationism, which I've been attempting to explain is useless because it is literally axiomatic
>>8090881
To worship God, their creator.
>>8091074
i was going to play the quote game but then i kek'd too hard
please define a "functioning" biological system
are you "functioning" because you participate in creationism arguments on 4chin? is that your function? are you performing it well?
>>8091074
the tendency of any randomly generated system is to eventually do something impressive
get at me
>>8091078
oh ok there was a miscommunication, I thought you were trying to say that creationism somehow wasn't the inverse probability of non-creationism
Just to clarify in case there was misunderstanding, my statement was that the probability of creationism would be the inverse of the probability of abiogenesis and macroevolution functioning perfectly on a world that happens to be the right temperature and have lots of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, etc
of course this probability would be completely dispelled by either an infinite number of habitable planets or an infinite number of parallel universes, which are both equally unfalsifiable claims
>>8090914
>>Because they fill an environmental niche.
Your mother exists because I fill her every night
>>8091086
CONJECTURE:
The universe assembles matter in such a way that the matter in the universe ultimately constructs ever-more-accurate models of the universe.
Predictions about the future of the environment given some (growing) subset of the state of the environment.
It is trivial to see that natural selection was a subset to this behavior until a sapient species arose.
>>8091099
Considering two of those are synonyms of the other terms you used, all you've given me is "escape death as long as possible" which is vague as hell and "self-repairing" contributes to in one way already.
>>8091107
New poster, synonymous means they mean the same thing. "Finding food" is an implication of "escape death" assuming you need food and "make copies" doesn't stave off death, it just makes sure your genes survive.
>>8091107
ok how about "live long enough to reproduce", is that good enough? Vagueness is irrelevant because the original argument is over the probability of abiogenesis
>>8091116
Except he already said "self-nourishing". I'm just playing with him while he lists off words to sound smart. All creationists can do is alternate between tautologies and unfalsifiable arguments while wondering why others aren't convinced.
>>8091121
I bet you thought you'd get away with that ridiculous ad hominem driven statement, you smug, fedora wielding autist
>>8090891
Filipino is fucking Asian nigger
>>8091131
>ad hominem
I was attacking the stupidity of the words he chose in his mindless rhetorical argument. Did you look that term up in the dictionary before copying and pasting it?
>>8091057
exactly, without a Gaia to nurture this life, it will perish probably immediately
how will a cell survive without an environment rich in gas and minerals, unless there exists a Gaia to provide it?
its the reason why there is no life on asteroids and small moons, my hypothesis is that the Gaia beings are of a certain size, so in order to impregnate the celestial bodies, the bodies need to be a certain size
it explains why earth has life and the moon does not
and Gaia are surely rare due to their advanced life forms likely moving on to the next conciousness, while a select few remain here to herd the sheep (us).
without gaia we will never reach the awakening, but i fear we will kill our mother before we evolve beyond crude human emotions such as greed and want.
if only there was a way to contact her, and we could also ask her about the mosquitoes, but now that i think about it, maybe mosquitoes are Gaia's way of telling us we need to stop destroying the earth
i think once the Gaia impregnate a planet, they become entwined and connected, they lose their physical form and become the planet itself. so if earth dies so too will Gaia and there will be no one to guide us to the awakening so we can take on our true forms of emotion and energy at the edge of the universe where we will cross into the 4th dimension and possibly become Gaia ourselves as a new generation of guides for other sentient beings
>>8091152
kekklehaus
>>8091142
no, you were attacking the idea of my "stupidity" in general while cherry picking details, followed by a completely unrelated, generalized statement about creationists. You argue like a reddit atheist. I should've known better than to continue to responding to someone who things ridicule counts as an argument.
>>8091152
what happens if we go to Mars
Things eat them for survival. Everything in nature is essential, even if we hate it.
>>8091163
i think if there is a Gaia in Mars, it perished long ago.
I read that long ago Mars had just as much life and greenery as Earth did until it was struck by some asteroids which created a dust cloud that lasted millions of years.
I think that dust cloud maybe asphyxiated the Gaia because it could no longer draw its strength from the sun, and that is why today it is a desolate and barren hunk of rock.
But also you'd have to consider that there cant be a Gaia for every large rock in the sky, but maybe they like to stick together? Maybe earth Gaia and mars Gaia were friends and they decided to impregnate within communication distance?
But i'd have to imagine that such advanced virtually celestial lifeforms would be able to communicate directly through the ether via some kind of instantaneous link such as the 4D consciousness we all know as dreamstate, which they must be able to use at will.
as awakened beings themselves im sure it would be no issue to commune directly through thought and emotional energy, but i dont know if a Gaia could survive being struck by enough meteors that it cant breathe the sun anymore.
i would assume that they need some form of energy to survive once they impregnate the rock and fuse with it, becoming the planets guiding will
but its hard to say what really happened to mars, maybe it was never impregnated in the first place, i guess we will find out when we land there, and maybe we can reawaken the Gaia and reestablish its link with our own. although i mean it probably wouldnt be happy with how we have treated our Gaia, right i bet it would be pretty angry seeing that ours is now on life support with climate warming and the negative energy attributed by billions of sentient life forms whose sole purpose is materialistic greed and corruption and no care for the environment
if i was the mars Gaia i would probably leave the suns orbit and crash into the earth, to destroy humanity but save earth Gaia in the process
we /x/ now
>>8091162
it's hard to cherry pick when you give me two or three actual terms per response in a vague hand-waving argument. i didn't ignore a single thing you said. i responded to many in parallel, however.
my statements about creationists only came after watching you flounder. sorry for giving you a strawman to cling to as if it describes the entire argument.
keep telling yourself how mean i'm being to you, but all i did was dismiss your rhetoric as rhetoric. i didn't start responding to turn your viewpoint around, but to highlight the fallacies and meaningless statements. so i think i'm done if you're done whining and calling me a fedora-wearing atheist (i'm agnostic fwiw!).
>>8090892
I choose to believe you're trying to troll and not that you're a massive imbecile
>>8091179
THAT IS QUITE LITERALLY THE PLOT OF THE MOVIE "FINAL FANTASY SPIRITS WITHIN".
>>8091185
You throw around 'vague' like a buzzword. I originally stated that the probability of abiogenesis was incredibly low and you responded that it's the nature of chemicals to form life. Wouldn't you agree that that assertion was as much or more vague and rhetorical than my response regarding the general properties of a living thing?
>>8090872
Without them spreading disease and killing off other animals, things would get out of hand.
>>8090874
they have a large total biomass but afaik no animal relies on mosquitoes for it's primary source of food.
If you find a way to genocide mosquitoes, nobody is going to give a fuck about reprocussions.
Just kill these fuckers.
information transfer
they probably aid in evolution; in intraspecies mixing
in gene flow
>>8090872
>they are everywhere
What is Antarctica?
>>8090874
Mosquitoes occupy a specific niche which can easily be taken over by other midges, gnats, or flies if there was a vacuum created. You wipe out those cocksuckers and there's plenty of other dicks ready to take the limelight.
Take a fucking ecology class
Big part of mammalian DNA is viral and that DNA help in human evolution (the placenta is from viral DNA), Mosquitoes drive evolution (red queen)
What if, we created a giant organic blob out of HeLa cells, dropped it in Panama or where the most mosquitos come from (basically their source), and infected it with a virus designed to kill mosquitos. Then we made everyone stay inside their homes for a day, and wear mosquito repellent for a week.
Would it work?
Alternatively, we could design something a self-winding fly swatter with an area that is dipped in whatever pheremone or other released by bannanas or their digestion that mosquitos like.
>>8090872
>they serve no purpose other than to reproduce and die and annoy other forms of life
That's a pretty good definition of life.
Submit that shit to Merriam-Webster, they might take it!
>>8090872
Because they can.
>>8090872
Since every answer in this thread is by a 12 year old, I'll chime in my thoughts.
Mosquitoes don't have a "purpose" per say. But if you look at it this way, mosquitoes are perhaps nature's way of keeping other species' population in check.
