Hahahaha
https://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/education/2016/05/13/for-many-teachers-math-just-doesnt-add-up.html
>>8075783
>Americans/Canadians
kek indeed
>>8075783
>Lack of math skills for elementary teachers is seen as a "huge problem" for North American education faculties
>North American
topkek, I mean. What were you expecting? Have these subhumans ever been not below average?
Why would anyone who's good at math want to become an inner city school teacher? No shit there's a shortage of inner city school teachers who are good at math.
>>8075809
Love for teaching, the future 'return on investment' of possibly inspiring +1 students enjoy math
I know of someone with multiple (supposedly great) research papers who just wants to teach high school math
>>8075809
>mfw be me
>mfw way back
>be undergraduate
>4th year education major sitting beside me asked me for help solving quadratic equation
>>8075825
?
>>8075822
> asked me for help solving quadratic equation
To be fair most of the ones you see in school you can guess so maybe he encountered something with complex roots.
>>8075834
it wasnt
>hahaha
it's not funny, it's really fucking sad actually
>>8075819
>inner city kids
>ROI
Don't make me laugh.
>>8075822
Did you kindly tell him that you practice completing the square and to fuck off?
>>8075848
Are non inner city schools supposed to be any better?
I went to what I think was a half decent public school in Ontario (OP pic related) and permanently hated math until I got to see some higher level material in university.
It would have been nice to have a single teacher who wasn't just coasting by
>>8075836
Then he must be simple. I am sure most education majors aren't double digit IQ barely literate monkeys.
>>8075855
>Are non inner city schools supposed to be any better?
Washington DC outspends rural schools per pupil by like 4:1 and still gets lower scores than them.
>>8075809
> Why would anyone who's good at math want to become an inner city school teacher? No shit there's a shortage of inner city school teachers who are good at math.
Honestly the bigger question is why would anyone "good" at any subject (outside education itself) want to be a teacher for k-12 schools? And when I mean "good" I mean capable of inventing, business starting, academic research, college professor/ company trainer, +70k starting, professional partnerships, stardom etc.
Unless you genuinely love kids or teaching, teaching k-12 is kinda of the last "safe" resort of sorts for professionals. Mind you it still looks nice on the resume (I know this because I taught for a few years and hiring employers seem to like said skill because it means I can teach fellow employees software they do not know about) but unless you're in it for the long haul it's usually not worth the trouble if you can help it.
It also doesn't help that k-12 education infrastructure is a mess. The articles below sums up the problem for the most part.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html?referer=
http://www.americanradioworks.org/segments/a-different-approach-to-teacher-learning-lesson-study/
Both highlight the fact that the education and teaching techniques that made Japanese education effective and great came from mathematicians and professionals in U.S. but never reached the U.S. public system.
>>8075783
>you will never have a hapa milf girlfriend that tries to actually improve education
why even live??
>>8075917
I taught for like 6 months during my 20s cuz I thought it was fun
thats basically it. I would rather kill myself than teach as an actual job.
Also I agree with you
>>8075857
They are actually, that's why they are education majors
>>8075858
Are you implying intelligence is genetic, shitlord ?
>>8075937
i would totally be fine with her teaching me harshly.
>>8075917
This.
Teaching pays like shit compared to literally any other job a degree-holding mathematician could have, and it's a waste for anybody ambitious enough to become innovative in their field of study.
But since it's tax-funded, people don't want to give muh taxes to schools, which in turn results in shitty pay for those jobs, which dissuades more capable people from ever wanting such a shitty-paying job where you have to put up with everyone complaining about their snotnosed kid being precious and misunderstood and whatever.
>shit the bed at co-op interviews, get into some manufacturing certificate program at local CC to have credentials
>part of course is "math for manufacturing"
>it's literally 2nd grade shit like improper fractions and basic arithmetic
>immediately suspect the credentials are basically worthless
>>8075783
American here.
All the teachers were dumb as bricks about their subjects except 1 science teacher who loved the job and won awards for teaching so well. all the rest literally taught directly from the book/workbook did only the bare minimum to prepare the students for the seasonal state tests so the school could get more money for sports.
I didn't really realize what was going on, at that time, I just thought they disliked the students. Though, most did.
>>8077427
>anime
FUCK OFF
>>8075917
>Honestly the bigger question is why would anyone "good" at any subject (outside education itself) want to be a teacher for k-12 schools? And when I mean "good" I mean capable of inventing, business starting, academic research, college professor/ company trainer, +70k starting, professional partnerships, stardom etc.
We solved this problem in the past by letting women do it, which worked out well because they love kids and didn't have much chance of a successful academic or professional career elsewhere. Now that all that's changed, of course, we no longer have the option of filling the schools with top-notch (female) teachers.
>>8075783
Education majors are pretty much retarded.
>>8077804
whoever made this visualization is retarded
>>8077810
too information dense for you?
>>8075783
My mother used to work as a math consultant for elementary teachers, and at least once per week she would have to explain to a teacher what the equals sign meant.
There were also teachers that insisted that statements like 2 + a =7 were incorrect, because it wasn't written as a=7-2
>>8077825
desu I think the meme that "math is useless" is due to there being very little people who actually know how to use it
>>8077804
wtf why block math with cs, of course you're gonna get shit results. fuck man fuck that study
so triggered right now reee etc
HAHAHAHAHA
Will Smith's kid posted about this on his twitter feed a billion times, and everyone just laughed at him.
>"Questioning and criticising authority is stupid, lol!"
>"Thinking is bad! Just repeat what other people say and act really self important and criticize criticizers!"
^ 99.9% of the worldwide human groupthink phenomena
>>8075858
The disparity isn't that stark, and it ignores cost of living and the fact that things like subsidized lunches are lumped into education spending. Giving hungry kids food is great, but it doesn't make sense to hold it against a school's ROI.
>>8075857
They actually are, there are multiple studies that show IQ by major and education always comes out last.
>>8075783
Math education in America is ruined because we refuse to reward excellence. Teachers do NOT get bonuses for producing excellent students but instead receive bonuses for NOT producing poor students. Teachers are taught to ignore the best and average students and concentrate on the worst performing students (NO child left behind). It is considered far better to produce a class of 40% B and 60%C students than a class of 30% A, 30%B, 20%C and 15% D and 5%F. They fire teachers for poor students and give NOTHING for producing excellent students.
>>8077810
You must be an "Arts" guy.
>>8079177
Nice try, maplefucker. That article is about Canada.
>>8079177
Is Americas system that shitty?
Here they stream the classes which is a fuck load better don't have retards holding a kid back. Some teachers are better at helping those struggling and others are better at helping those excelling. Everyone progress at the pace best for them. Etc... The list of benefits goes on.
>Ontario
No shit, there fucking Education system is a joke. I know people who went through schools to become teachers and 90% of their courses are just "show up to the exam and pass."
Meanwhile the private and offshore schools are a joke and cash grab credit mills.
>Eastern Canada
Not even once. Just look at this shit.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/chinese-school-could-lose-ontario-acceditation
>hs teacher marka you down for writing multiple = signs on a row
>hs teacher marks you down for completing the square instead of using formula
>>8075825
Would
>>8079628
>Is Americas system that shitty?
Yes..., yes it is. The liberals want EVERYONE to do well and if a teacher produces 100% C students that is MUCH better than 50% A and 50% F students. In fact if the teacher has a small group of exceptionally brilliant students then the testing will show a large difference, and according to liberal philosophy the ONLY reason for this is some BIAS on the teachers part (since all students are equally gifted).
>>8076001
So it's a vicious circle of mediocre talent teaching our kids due to bad pay?
>>8081030
> the librulssssssss
> no child left behind was passed by Bush
>>8081520
Reminder that Obama pushed for the Common Core, which manages to be even shittier than No Child Left behind
>>8081504
It's worse than mediocre talent, but yes, combined with education standards being lowered so that blacks and hispanics can keep up.
>>8081521
>which manages to be even shittier than No Child Left behind
It's actually not though.
>be math undergrad
>education major flatmate wonders out loud how long she's been watching a TV series for
>13 episodes
>50 minutes
>mfw she types in 13 * 0.5
because apparently 0.5=50 minutes. Education people should all be made to do a basic entry level uni math paper
>>8075825
qt loli
>>8081652
I don't get it, what's wrong with that?
>>8075965
i think people underestimate the importance of the home life, especially in the first few years, in the development of a kid
you can spend as much $ as you want but if the kid was not in a good home environment at a young age you can't do much
>>8081691
50 minutes * (1 hour / 60 minutes) = 0.83 hours... not 0.5 hours.
>>8077852
ikr
chemists probably pulling down physicists
reee
>>8081708
What? 50m * 60m is 300m or 300/60 = 5 hours
0.83 hours is 49min and 8secs.
>>8081730
You're a moron. 0.83 was shorthand for 5/6. 50 minutes to hours -> 50 minutes / 60 minutes = 5/6 hours (exactly 50min). 13 * 5/6 hours = 65/6 hours or ~~10.83 hours. You dunce. How the fuck do you spend 50 minutes watching one episode, watch 13 of them, and only do it for 5 hours. 5 hours = 300 minutes, so if they're 50 minutes a piece, then 300 / 50 = 6 episodes. She watched 13
>>8081756
It's astonishing how you're failing kindergarten math here.
0.83 isn't a "shorthand" for 5/6 since 5/6 is equal to 0.8333... not 0.83. 0.83 is an APPROXIMATION of 5/6.
Also, you must be extremely retarded to go on converting 50 minutes into hours. (13 x 50)/(60) suffices just fine. This was actually my source of confusion in your notation: I thought by "50 minutes * (1 hour / 60 minutes)" you simply meant "50 * 60".
>>8081730
Wrong
50m*60m=300m^2
50*60m=300m
Please be b8
>>8081824
The 'm' isn't supposed to be a variable. I suggest working on your reading compression.
>>8077804
this, we have the lowest of the low teaching our children.
I for one think education should be automated with programs constructed by elite researchers and contributors in their field.
>>8081800
He used dimensional analysis like a good scientist, you nigger.
>>8077810
Problem with charts?
>>8075783
My elementary school math teacher was terrible. She didn't get the concepts herself and would mark things right or wrong based on exact matches to the answer guide.
3/5 was wrong if the answer guide said 6/10.
2 was wrong if the guide said 2.0
A*B was wrong if the guide said B*A
>>8082006
That's a horrendous chart.
>>8082443
My calc1 teacher was a black woman. I still consider her one of the best.
>>8082006
what the fuck's up with the axes?
Wouldn't you have time on horizontal and VGP on vertical?
