Why the fuck do all Software engineering jobs require a CS degree not a fucking Software eng degree?
>>8066047
Just because a company calls it's code monkey jobs SE doesn't mean it's actually SE, you can't legally give an SE job to anyone without an accreditted SE degree.
You can actually sue the company posting the wrong title win the case:
http://sce.uhcl.edu/helm/SWEBOK_IEEE/papers/10%20reprint%205.pdf
>>8066062
CS is technically a science which involves math you inbred coon
>>8066064
CS has nothing to do with science or computers, you illiterate spergmaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Op3QLzMgSY
>>8066078
But it does involve math does it?
>>8066078
>chinese cartoon gif
Looks like you're the one who belongs in /g/
>>8066080
It involves more magic than math.
>>8066083
You know you are on a chinese children's cartoon website, right?
>>8066086
>claiming the website is about chinese cartoon on a mongolian throat singing website
Most (if not all) decent schools don't offer a software engineering major.
>>8066129
Im currently studying software dev and planning to go into software engineering in uni but every software job asks for cs
>>8066047
>Software """"""""""""""""engineering""""""""""""""""
>>8066314
It becomes very apparent that it's an engineering when you take data structures.
>tons of ways to solve a problem
>need to pick the best solution given constraints and requirements, weighing pros/cons of various designs
So how much are CS and SE actually apart from another? Im in Germany and we basicly have IT and Applied IT, If I understood it right IT is basicly CS and applied is SE.
Is CS so much better than SE? I love coding but I hated math in high school / did really bad, so im not sure I could actually do well in CS
>>8066353
>If I understood it right
You didn't.
>>8066365
Isn't computer science some programming with most of the focus on math and logic behind it?
>>8066047
I'm not sure what this image is about. Context?
>>8066047
>not a fucking Software eng degree?
My wife has a master's in SE and she's so computer illiterate she has trouble using Yahoo mail.
>>8066367
IT is programming, network infrastructure, web design etc. It's a plebshit degree for the Staceys and Kevins of the world.
CS (what it's actually supposed to be) is not just about "learning how to program with some math", it's about the theory behind computation and algorithms and broad variety of subfields.
SE (what it's actually supposed to be) is destinct from CS in its hardware interfacing and focus on physical systems; more concerned with embedded systems in product designs and/or industry applications, but this also includes typical engineering on general computers/workstations and so forth. SE majors take more intro/general science and engineering courses to understand the systems they are working with.
Of course CS generally ends up being used as code monkeys due to falling standards. In any case CS and SE are virtually unrelated.
>>8066084
Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about
>>8066388
Oh okey. I thought it was the same thing because the unis in Berlin all only have IT and nothing similiar to computer science.
I know CS is mainly about math/logic, but how much actually is it? I like the logic and math aspects when I programm, but I was pretty shit at math in high school
>>8066078
Wew lad, you fell for the meme. What do you actually know about CS?
>>8066083
Kek
>>8066047
Dafuq you talking about?
Entre level development positions don't even need a degree, most just ask any kind of experience.
I know because I am a software developer and I'm still a college student, and I'm not studying CS nor SE.
My interview went like this
>What you know?
>What you done?
>Know SQL?
>You start next monday.
>>8067302
If you want to work for good companys and earn good money they ask for a degree, usually the degree covers for experience
>>8068258
I doubt that, unless you are harvard tier, out of uni most people are getting top tier work. There are simply not enough 'good' jobs in software.
Really, the ratio is like 20:1 when it comes to code monkey jobs and interesting cutting edge engineering.
>>8068520
Im doing software dev right now and once im done i can go uni for SE but people say you need CS do do SE
