>You can't /sci/
MIT is the best university in the world. That's why yuropoors have us so much. We're winning!
>>8002655
Princeton
NYU
Harvard
ITT Tech
UCLA
>it's "shill for uni you'll never get into but wish you could" thread
oh
nah I'm alright with ICL and cosy, well paid job straight out of uni
>>8002661
>ITT Tech
Fucking KEK
>>8002655
>look, we have the best universities...
>... for chinese students
the result is threads on /sci/ asking why chinese students flood american universities and cuck americans out of their own teaching system
nothing to be proud of really
>>8002661
Forgot University of Pheonix
>>8002666
nice trips
You studying engineering?
>>8002661
>ITT Tech
You're a disgrace to humanity.
>>8002689
I bet that...
You spelled Caltech wrong
http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/university-subject-rankings/2016/mathematics#sorting=rank+region=+country=+faculty=+stars=false+search=
>>8002655
Oh, I guess that's why the most highly-cited institution worldwide in physics and space science is in Germany.
http://archive.sciencewatch.com/inter/ins/09/09Top20Overall/
>>8002739
>he most highly-cited institution worldwide in physics and space science is in Germany.
>>8002723
not even close
but hey, at least you tried
Purdue University and UMich > MIT
>>8003043
You've obviously gone to one of these schools.
>>8003050
UMich's nuke dept is rated #1, over MIT's and Purdue's nuke dept puts out more publications per faculty than MIT's
plus dat big10 swag
>>8002753
>dat charisma
U aussie m8?
>>8002655
>Name a better school
Alright
ITT tech.
>>8002736
>Ecole normale supérieure
>13 Nobel prizes
>10 Fields medals
>Best mathematical education in the world
>Ranked 27th
>>8002727
This.
>>8002655
Caltech>>MIT
Carnegie Mellon #1 computer science
MIT #2
>>8003066
TOP KEK!!
>>8002655
All the people I've ever met from MIT were insufferable cunts.
Sure, they're mostly pretty intelligent but no one wants to work with them and they get almost 0 collaborations
They only seem to get along with other MIT people
basically the school is one big circlejerk
>>8003158
aaaaaayyyyyy
>>8003158
Is it real? I have the opportunity to go for a 6 months exchange there but I don't want it to be worse than my current one
>>8003412
>no
>>8002655
Name a more terrifying mascot
>Protip: you can't
>>8002655
>yuropoors have us so much
wat
As a romanian, I would really like to be in the MIT... But is it THAT good?
>>8002655
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Advanced_Study
>>8002655
Have you ever thought about the reasons why these rankings exist?
Don't look at such issues like a mathematician, you'll reach terribly non true conclusions.
>>8002655
Vandy.
>>8002661
Princeton and Harvard inflate the shit out of their grades like most Ivy League schools.
>>8003419
Their robotics department got gutted not their cs department
>>8003514
>OP asks for schools
>posts a research center
>>8002655
>Going to an expensive college so you can get the same job as someone else from a state college unless you're going to be an academic.
Also
>Not having an in depth knowledge of the subject matter before you went to college.
Normal but selective universities that have good programs and great social life are probably the best for practicality. No point in going to an elite school if no one knows what it is or if you can't make any friends there.
An easy guide for this is basically to find good schools with top-tier sports programs or active greek life.
Think:
>UPenn
>Duke
>Berkeley
>UMichigan
>Northwestern
>Vanderbilt
>Notre Dame
>Georgetown
>UCLA
>USC
Basically, if you're not going to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, or Stanford, no one will really know or care how good your school is past the threshold of "good school" so you might as well go to the listed above and make the most out of college.
>>8003660
Almost forgot
>Going to college unless its needed for your career.
If you go to college to try to get a programming job, I honestly don't know what to say.
>>8003081
''Best mathematical education in the world'' is subjective, nad also you didn't provide any evidence for what you said.
>>8003662
Add UNC, UVA
I redid the entire list here:>>8003662
Below are a list of schools that have very strong programs that are outside of Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, Columbia, MIT, etc. Order doesn't matter here.
University of California—Berkeley
University of California—Los Angeles
University of Virginia
University of Michigan—Ann Arbor
University of North Carolina—Chapel Hill
Georgia Institute of Technology
University of California—San Diego
University of Wisconsin—Madison
Pennsylvania State University—University Park
University of Washington
University of Texas--Austin
Vanderbilt University
Northwestern
University of Notre Dame
University of Chicago
Duke
University of Pennsylvania
California Institute of Technology
Carnegie Mellon University
University of Southern California
>>8004132
I agree with this list. There are a couple other regional ones but these are all fine.
It's interesting to compare what /sci/ sees as a good school and what schools are considered target schools for banks.
Northwestern checking in.
I may add Rice to the list.
>>8002655
>enjoy paying for education amerifat
>>8003663
Muh nigga
>>8004132
>University of California—San Diego
TOP KEK
>>8004132
Explain this, burgers:
Why are almost all your universities called "university of [State]", even when there's multiple universities within a state.
>>8002666
ICL masterrace reporting in
>>8003663
>employers will accept that you're qualified based on the fact you say you are
>>8002745
I keep forgetting that I'm talking to retarded freshmen.
>>8004132
>University of Notre Dame
>mfw going to cc first
>mfw going to a fairly obscure uni
Well, fuck, is it all over for me?
>>8004260
Just an educated guess or observation,
Back in the old days universities were seen as a place to learn abstract liberal arts. But "land grant" universities were endowed to teach practical things like engineering, sciences, etc.
Usually within a State you'll find the more traditional liberal arts university and the STEM ones. This doesn't mean the former universities lack STEM programs (sometimes they are some of the top STEM programs in the nation), but it'll be more obvious which of the two schools is the engineering or STEM one.
Due to this you sometimes have: University of [State] -- at XXX because one school will be the more liberal arts one (traditionally) and the other will be your more traditional STEM one. I noticed that a lot of STEM ones follow the name of "The [State] University" while your liberal arts one is "University of [State]" but that isn't always the case...
Anyway, TL;DR universities have different purposes and since they all exist in the same state they may overlap with names.
btw this could be entirely wrong just my guess
true GOAT coming through
Things discovered by cambridge:
>Calculus
>Gravity
>Evolution
>DNA
>The Computer
>The Electron
>The Neutron
>Cloning
>IVF
>Hydrogen
>Laws of Thermodynamics
>The scientific method
>Electromagnetic theory
The list goes on and on. What has your university contributed to science?
>>8004598
Cambridge did not, by itself, contribute all of these things. Cambridge was a collaborator on many of these projects. Cambridge deserves credit for doing so (as do other collaborating universities), but don't be a cunt about it.
>>8004609
I think most Ivies have CS departments ranked lower than CS departments at non-Ivies. (I'm another person from an Ivy, by the way.)
>>8004598
What has your university contributed to science?
Attend Trump University and learn for yourself.
>>8004609
most of these were discovered at cambridge alone, collaboration is a very mid-20th century thing.
>>8004609
Who did Newton, Bacon, Darwin and Maxwell collaborate with?
>>8004029
Indeed, that's very subjective. The question deserves a detailed post about mathematical education in France and the whole culture around the Grandes Écoles, it's a unique system that performs badly by most worldwide rankings criterias because of the very limited number of students in the top schools and many other factors. If you want I can write a more detailed post.
UCR
who side?
R'side
>>8004132
University of California - Santa Barbara has actually surpassed San Diego academically according to the most recent world university rankings.
>>8004150
I'd imagine Northwestern gets overshadowed by Uchicago a lot. At least schools like Vandy and Duke are powerhouses without much serious competition compared to an equally respected school like Northwestern.
>>8004630
Leibniz and Faraday
>>8004598
>true GOAT coming through
>Things discovered by cambridge:
TOP KEK.
>>8003451
Go Bears.
>>8004260
Not all schools were named at the same time.
>>8002739
Difference being that Max Planck is a collection of 83 different institutes rather than a single university.
>Bachelors
Going to a top expensive school for an undergrad degree
LOL
>Master's degree
If you can get in for free or with majority of the expenses taken care of, sure. If not, there are middle-tier to high tier respectable universities where you can get your degree and have more freedom
>PhD
Bread and butter. This is where you should thrive to go to MIT, Harvard, etc. Universities should be paying you to get your PhD there. Even if they don't, it is still worth getting it at those schools.
>>8004598
Newton discovered calculus while Cambridge was closed due to the plague.
Hey guys,
I just got into Princeton, Columbia, and MIT. Which one should I go to for /sci/? Thinking about physics, math, and electrical engineering/computer science majors.
>>8005518
definitely MIT. the school is excellent in all of the fields you just listed, while the other two, though good, are ivies and don't have programs nearly as strong in those subjects
>>8004630
Hook
>>8005518
MIT for any kind of engineering. Princeton for math and Columbia for Physics.
>>8003066
I go there and this is basically a meme at this point. I mean yeah we are decently ranked in everything but people take this school way more seriously than they should.
>>8004470
Hey dumbass, you can get certifications proving you're qualified, even from Harvard and MIT now. You can volunteer to develop for projects like Blender or Firefox, you can get work online programming for individual people. If you wanna be a sysadmin you can host servers for people to play videogames on, and charge them for it. There's tons of ways to get experience thanks to the internet.
You don't need to go to college to be a programmer. You need to go to college to be on the cutting edge of Comp Sci in an ACADEMIC setting.
>>8003663
I want to design and/or help work on making computer chips. I'm going to college for computer engineering. Should I get certs instead? If so, which ones?
>>8005857
CE is a whole different ballgame I'm not familiar with, because its in the engineering field I'd assume you still need to go to college but I don't know.
>>8005812
Now that's interesting. I see so many 'top' universities, but all the interesting tech/sci development is not coming out of them. The BIG names seem to be old-boy clubs who get their alumni into influential positions, hardly meritorious.
Offtopic: Is physics/math (not their engineering counterparts) even taught in MIT, Caltech, and so on, like they are taught in actual universities?
>>8004132
>featuring Pedo State and not glorious Minnesota
Senpai, UMN has some pretty high quality programs.
>>8005875
You can literally look that up yourself on OCW.
>>8005934
So for the case of MIT, the name is just a tradition? It's not an institute of technology then.
>>8003557
>he's an undergrad
>>8004132
UChicago and Caltech perform better than Yale and Columbia on pretty much all rankings for certain subjects.
>>8002655
GOAT UNI COMING THROUGH
for certain subjects, most notably Physics, Maths, and Economics.
>>8004945
Duke exist in the same state as UNC. It isn't a secret that UNC is comparable to Duke (eg they are both ranked the same in CS), but at a cheaper (in state) price. Something like 60k compared to 20k. I think UNC is something like 50k out of state so more comparable OOT. UNC Is also a top 5 public school, so no it doesn't overshadow every school in the state. Plus, even though Duke has a better name it's engineering department is ranked similarity or the same as NC State's which has a strong in state program.
>>8004945
Northwestern is where UChicago rejects go.
>>8003066
Not even close to being the best school in texasville
>>8004260
Are you really this fucking spastic?
>>8004598
Do you list all of those on your cv when applying for jobs?
>>8005812
>>University of Texas
>> people take this school way more seriously than they should.
Only Texicans do.
Everyone else recognizes the limitations that this school has.
>>8003557
Princeton started grading more harshly years ago.
>>8005942
Pretty much, yes. It is not a strictly science/technilogy institution. Look here: http://web.mit.edu/education/
>economics
>history
>literature
>music and theater
>WOMEN'S AND GENDER STUDIES
>>8005376
This guy gets it
>>8006280
yo same where ya at
>>8002655
USA has 6* France's population, only 2 more Field's medals.
At least for one subject I think MIT is beat.
>>8006383
>Princeton
Isn't it a meme ivy league uni?
The last time Princeton meant something to society was in the late 1960s.
>>8006652
Princeton and Harvard are By far the best Ivy League schools. Princeton is competitive in most stem areas.
>watching MIT open lectures helped me ace my subjects
>from cuckmany so no university fees
the amount of butthurt burgers feel will never be the same
>>8006652
Princeton and Harvard are the best two ivies. Followed by Yale, followed by Columbia, followed by the rest.
>>8006538
>USA has 6* France's population, only 2 more Field's medals.
Care to compare Nobel Prizes?
>>8006750
Sure.
How many non-
european
asians
jews
have nobel prizes for their work in american universities?
>>8006787
Not involved in this, but wouldn't it make more sense to look at those who were schooled in France vs. those schooled in the US? If someone has earned all of their degrees in one country, it makes more sense to count them as a winner in said country as opposed to one they were born in.
Just saying. It may not even matter.
