I'm very scared of dying anons
How close are we to immortality?
here is a picture of a weeboo cartoon to cheer you up.
disclaimer: you will die
>>7996716
why are you scared of dying anon.
Tell me, I'll fix you for free.
>>7996716
> afraid of dying
highschool kid detected. gtfo this board
>>7996716
So have kids, pass on your genes and memes. Or mentor someone.
>>7996716
go to /b/ regularly and find those rekt threads
they really help to see things in the right perspective
>>7996716
You are immortal
>>7996726
I'm afraid of not exising anymore
>>7996727
I'm 63 kiddo
>>7996820
I kinda have the same feeling. Don't think about it. Listen to some good music.
>>7996716
You were born too early man, just like the rest of us...
>>7996885
I have no music taste. Everything sounds bad to me after listening it for too long.
>>7996820
why are you afraid of not existing anymore? Is there any reason why existing indefinitely would be good?
>Evangelical christian cousin hugs me one day
>Tells me without a hint of doubt in her voice I'm going to live forever
>First thought in my head is nope I actually want to die someday
See I enjoy being alive and all that, but anything past 100 years is just way too much for me.
>>7996902
>Everything sounds bad to me
Death will bring you peace
>>7996820
Almost everyone has that fear
It's easier to come to terms with it though.
>>7996849
Are you really?
>>7996907
I want to see the peak of human evolution. I want to see other planets, other galaxies, I just want to see where it all leads to. I just wanna find out what the absolute maximum of human achievement will be. And I'm dealing with infinite Weltschmerz that I probably won't even get to see us colonize Mars
>>7996958
Can't do that without becoming a cynic bastard
>>7996977
nah dude, I'm not afraid of dying, but at the same time I'm an optimist. Live while you can, senpai. The way I see it, you're not aware when you're dead, so there's no point about worrying about the void. You just gotta accept the fact that you'll stop being one day, doesn't mean you can't have fun while existing.
Just get cryonically frozen.
>>7996985
Yes it does. How am I supposed to enjoy life knowing it's all in vain anyway? I'm a purpose driven man. I can't just live enjoying myself. I want to live exploring the depths of the universe. I want to know everything to grant me a vision of Nature's forces that bind the world, all its seeds and sources and innermost life—all this I shall see, and stop peddling in words that mean nothing to me.
>>7996716
Why is this the one and only board that is obsessed with immortality? never once seen it mentioned on any other board. My explanation is that kids who think they are smarter than everyone else extend that into thinking they will be able to work out how to live forever.
>>7997009
You could argue everything's in vain. The universe will eventually die of a heat death, even the artifacts we have flying through space (like voyager) will eventually lose electrons one by one until it slowly disintegrates. But all of this stuff is large scale things. All you have to do is focus on right now, and focus on being happy. Because simply, a happy life, is a good life.
>>7996727
>only people in high school are afraid of dying
>>7997018
Sounds like the philosophy of those obscure new age sects to me.
I refuse to believe that the end of our universe is unavidable. I'm sure we can reverse the process one day and create a Universe in our image.
And it makes me sad that I won't be around for that day
>>7997009
So get cryonically frozen idiot
http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html
>>7997024
If you believe that, then work towards laying the foundation. Be the change you wanna be in the world. I know it's some cheesy sounding quote, but if you help lay the foundations, You might help just a little.
>>7997013
The better question is why is everyone else NOT obsessed with immortality? How much of a cuck do you have to be to just accept that one day you'll get cucked by Death and can't do anything about it?
>>7997026
How do I make sure someone will thawn me?
First I need to make an impact on the world big enough to make sure that I'm notorious throughout history. Then I'll freeze myself. It's the only way
>>7997033
First of all, you are getting frozen. You are going through a process of vitrification.
Just read the blog post. It sums up all the information.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to live forever. If any of you faggots actually want to die someday then go fucking die someday. Stop hating
>>7997040
I know what cryonics is. What I'm saying is that there is no guarantuee that peope in the future will care enough about you to revive you. Who would revive average Joe who died of Cholera in 1777 when you could revive fucking Mozart, y'know what I mean?
I don't know what's worse, dying one day or having to live forever. Can you imagine how you'll feel after 5 billion years of being alive ?
I think the best thing would be to live forever but to be able to wipe your memories every 200 years or so, and maybe keep records in a database so you can see who you used to be and don't lost everything.
>>7997030
Because it's the reality. Just because you read a few biology books doesn't mean you can live forever. /sci/'s obsession with immortality is indicative of it's inflated ego. You are just like everyone else, you are not special, you will die in 50-60 years just like everyone else. hell i can even comfortably predict how you will go, likely either heart failure or cancer. Just like everyone else. So if I were you I'd instead research painkillers because I heard cancer is real painful.
>>7997057
You mean kinda like the Doctor from Doctor Who?
>>7997057
I don't think the brain can even handle living that long, eventually I think it would stop working due to the amount of connections. Your brain only has so much matter to fold in a volume
>>7997064
You can die if you want to. I won't die.
>>7997066
You could always artificially expand your brain
FOREVER YOUNG, I WANNA BE FOREVER YOUNG
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO LIVE FOREVER?
FOREVER, FOREVER
>>7997068
Remember Weyland in Prometheus? Sad desperate decrepit old man. Don't be like him. Die with dignity when your time comes.
>>7997070
What does that even mean?
>>7997077
THEY SAY WE ARE WHAT ARE BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE
I'M BAD BEHAVIOUR BUT I DO IT IN THE BEST WAY
I'LL BE THE WATCHER OF THE ETERNAL FLAME
I'LL BE THE GUARD DOG OF ALL YOUR FEVER DREAMS
I AM THE SANF IN THE BOTTOM HALF OF AN HOURGLASS
I TRY TO PICTURE YOU WITHOUT ME BUT I CAN'T
CAUSE WE COULD BE IMMORTALS
IMMORTALS
JUST NOT FOR LONG FOR LOBG
AND LIVE WITH ME FOREVER NOW
PULL THE BLACKOUT CURTAINS DOWN
JUST NOT FOR LONG FOR LONG
BECAUSE WE COULD BE IMOOOOOOOOO IMMORTALS
IMOOOOOOOOOOOO
IMMORTALS
>>7997083
Get an upgrade
>>7996716
>How close are we to immortality?
very far
>I'm very scared of dying anons
at least you dont have to be scared of being alone, though you might not realize it. I believe all people assume they are going to live forever so they technically arent scared. if everyone really comprehended that 60-80 years is a blink of the eye in time, which so far has been running for 13.8 billions years, everyone would be terrified right along side with you.
either that or realize you barely existed anyway and nothing was lost.
>>7996716
Just remember that life has no value and any belief to the contrary is pure delusion.
Disclaimer: may negatively impact your life.
>>7996716
Immortality in conflict with evolution is. Only in case some immortal creature might do evolution all be okay.
>>7997179
>some immortal creature might do evolution all be okay
What?
>>7996973
that's pretty egoistic don't you think?
>>7997195
So what?
>>7997024
and then? when we have a universe in our image. if we can live forever? if we have everything we ever wanted?
is that purpose?
No.
>>7997204
And then we'll go for the unimaginable. We're going to be gods even our current most ridiculous imaginations of God can't compete with. We'll travel to other dimension. We'll travel to even beyond that we'll to to the end of all.
And then we turn mad and return it all to 0 and restart
>>7997214
sounds fun. still no purpose in my opinion.
>>7997231
also OP, i don't think there is any way to deal with the consequences of death. Everybody who handles it does it by either ignoring it and pretending like death is an impossibility in the deeper levels of their brain, doesn't understand it, or is a druggie/alcoholic
>>7997082
that's exactly what will NOT happen if we achieve indefinite lifespan: you will have a youthful body again.
>Die with dignity
it's hard to mantain dignity when there are many kinds of bugs and worms eating your remains.
>>7997195
compared to what? What right have you to decide when someone has to die?
>>7997269
Well it's gonna happen to you so just deal with it.
>>7997283
great way to come out of a conversation.
I want you to explain to me why there is dignity in dying.
>>7997055
Average Joe is going to be of more historical interest than Mozart because he is representative of his time better than some outlier celebrity.
>>7997287
dignity is stoic acceptance of the inevitable and getting it over with with the least fuss possible.
what if life is a simulation?
>>7997064
Why do people think that you have to think you're special to want to live forever? It doesn't make any sense. I want everyone to live forever, especially my family and friends. It's so fucked that our stories keep getting cut short.
>>7997310
It's not that you want to live forever, you're right everyone does it's that you think you actually can.
>>7997310
because in movies/books you have to be special to be the one that lives forever
>>7996902
>after listening to it for too long
Believe me, I have the same problem. Are you living in the past, are you drowing in a sea of regrets? Don't stand still, move with your life. Don't repeat my mistakes.
>>7996779
>>>/b/678865236
>>7996716
well OP while immortality would be impossible since just about all lifeforms eventually ages (even bacteria that reproduce colonially), i think extending lifespan is for sure within the realm of possibility ... and in fact we already live nearly twice the lifespan we lived in the 1900s thanks to healthcare and agriculture improvements. we might be able to live longer if we can make a better DNA repair system to fix mutations we accumulate within our lifespan. but then again a host of other things besides mutation accumulation can kill us like heart disease and accumulation of plaque in our arteries for example. also some traits are selected for because they help us when we are young but hurt us when we are old and these persist since natural selection weakens with age. its a complex issue.
>>7996820your life sucks anyway anon, m-m-maybe it's a restart
>>7996805
This. The "You" that exists will live again as long as earth can sustain life. Leaves die each season and come back when it's spring. Flowers bloom, everything is reborn. Death isn't the end, but it's change. Life is a cycle, but your life will end and that "You" will not exist in that life again. Is this reincarnation? Guess you could say so. Just my insight, but my other guess is that you'll die and go to heaven where you'll shitpost on the daily.
>>7997636
>my other guess is that you'll die and go to heaven where you'll shitpost on the daily.
This just made me cry tears of joy, anon. Thank you.
>>7996716
My guess is probably 7-8 generations away from extending life to something like 500 years but we'll run into other issues we haven't forseen
You could, for example, tackle the telomerase problem, maybe overexpress p53, cut out shit genes with CRISPR-like system and put in some better ones, basically become the perfect specimen and that would take you out about 500 years or so but then you start running into shit we can't comprehend like the effects of 500 years of LTP on the brain when it goes senile at 100, or the long-term effects of ionizing radiation, or replacing cells and dna but not the corresponding epigenetic profiles
I hate to break it to you OP, but we're no where close to immortality.
>>7996716
>Concerned with mortality
Typical
>Does nothing to prevent it
Also typical
if you want to live longer eat a Mediterranean diet and excercise
>>7996973
>Implying things haven't peaked already
Western Civilization is beginning to crumble t b h
>>7997304
This.
OP is a fag.
>>7997734
If this is the peak of human evolution, I feel sad
>>7997304
Dignity is having a sense of pride and self respect.
Accepting that you're just going to die qithout you anything to do about it is the ultimate undignified act. So yeah, you're just a fag.
>>7996907
It's just human nature. I don't want things to end.
>>7996716
But life already is everlasting.
Living indefinitely is plausible, but you will die. There is no getting around it.
I'm gonna live forever so fuck you /sci/
Enjoy your nonexistence someday deathfags
>>7997220
There's literally no objective meaning in anything.
Even if God existed, objective meaning would not arise from it.
Existence, and subjective meaning inside of it, is still worthwhile though.
QUANTUM IMMORTALITY
NO ONE DIES
>>7998206
god damn, that's eerie.
http://waitbutwhy.com/table/how-long-would-you-live-if-you-could-choose-any-number-of-years
What would you type, /sci/?
>>7998309
[math]\infty[/math], no question.
What's the appeal of dying?
>>7998348
You can show how much of a cuck you are
Cucks love it
>>7996779
>>>/b/678958860
>>7996716
Sorry, but you ARE going to die. You will be VERY lucky to live beyond 100 years.
Live these last few years well.
>>7996820
You don't "cease to exist" you either go to heaven or to hell, your choice family.
>>7998683
I'd like to believe that. But given that I don't even have dreams when I sleep I'll just forever be scared of ceasing to exist
>>7996820
When you die you don't have conciousness or memory so how will you know you're dead
>>7998912
I won't. Thats the problem. I won't exist at all anymore. How is that not scary as fuck
lifes an illusion
it never ends
>>7996820
You shouldn't be.
Non-existence is rationally preferable and objectively superior to existence.
>scared of the only guarantee in your life
Why for?
Suicide is the only responsible choice one can make in life. What are you waiting for?
Go read the fan fiction "My Immortal" an d tell me if you want to live forever
>>7996933
I want to die everyday
>>7999004
IT NEVER ENDS
>>7997220
You have to touch the sun to melt your wax wings.
Radical life extension will come out in 2050
Are you ready to live past 120 /sci/?
>>7999018
Technically you don't exist when you're sleeping, there's a break in consciousness. Same goes for when you go under for surgery, the moment you wake up from going under will seem instantaneous.
>>7999233
>Technically you don't exist when you're sleeping, there's a break in consciousness.
Dumbest thing I've ever read on 4chan, congrats
>>7996716
Death is bullshit anyway. Our minds are information fields. A body means next to nothing; it's just an antenna.
Nothing at all can exist without first being observed into existence; that's how quantum fluctuations cause reality itself. Those fluxes also created minds, which, according to Orch OR experiments can react to quantum vibrations.
Microtubules are nothing but little antennae that pick up on a certain fluctuation field.
This is also likely why twins know what's going on with each other, because they were formed so close, they pick up on fields that are barely out of phase.
It doesn't matter if you die, because you'll just float around as an amorphous blob of thought until you find another antenna.
If you want to not even have to worry about that, get real close to some kind of inanimate object. Or, do some research into Applied Quantum Observation. If you don't solve it, I will, so I don't really care if you do or not. But since you're supposedly 63, you likely have finished actual work or are close. Go start researching how to create programmatic collapse states by measuring the effects of individual collapse states based on conscious intent.
That'll get you "telekinesis", or AQO.
Otherwise, just plan to stick around about 20 more years and wait for me.
Alternative: Check out BioViva. They have telomerase gene therapy that actually reverses aging. Liz Parrish is who you needa see.
>>7998912
I guess I have the mindset of a robot
>>7999105
I'm not autisicenough to read fanfictions
What's it about
>>7999277
/x/ pls go
>>7996746
Why did this shit make me laugh way harder than its good for me
>>7999233
Dumping mandatory immortality set
>>7999692
>>7999695
>>7999699
>>7999703
>>7999705
>>7999712
Part 7/7
Every one of these is a way to cheat death, but unfortunately for us, OP, I doubt either you or I will see it happen.
>>7996724
I have mainly lurked on 4 for about 6yrs now, and this has been my favorite comment so far.
>>7996716
Dying is the price for living.
You didn't exist before you were born, you won't exist after you die. Therefore enjoy life, it's practically only borrowed.
>>7999727
apart from the first 2, maybe 3, the others are way too sci-fi and futuristic, I doubt some of them might even be possible, like 6. Also, cyborgisation doesn't account for neurodegenerative diseases and the problems with replacing the organic parts of the body. Thanks for the dump though.
>>7996820
>>7998683
Yeah what this guy said. Instead of actually facing your issue, you can just live in lala land and pretend that after your brain decomposes it's mental states and false perceptions are transfered eternally to a pleasant or torturous magical plane depending on that brain's behavior.
Oh but you gotta act like it's a fact despite a complete lack of support. When people ask you if you're mentally unstable, just tell them you have faith and that it's something you just gotta experience.
>>7996716
True immortality is impossible. Entropy will eventually kill us anyways
Well you're waiting at least about 300 years for transhumanism.
>>7998982
You didn't exist for 13 billion years before you were born. Was that scary?
>>7996973
Same here, I'm scared of death because I fear that my life was pointless, because I'm scared of dying with billions of questions, because I still haven't seen everything I want to see. I fear that no matter what I do my life will be generic and in vain. I want to be remembered and help humanity achieve something.
>>7996716
the reason why im not afriad of dying is because nobody knows what will happen after our life. when we die the real journey will beginn....
>>7999801
lower your expectations and you may live a more fulfilling life
plant a garden
hug a friend
exert positivism
I'm not a devout christian or anything like that, I take science as fact and hardly care about others, I also find it highly unlikely there is an afterlife but I just really hope there is, because maybe then I'll actually be able to complete my life.
>>7999808
>exert positivism
>>7999808
That's the problem, I don't want to be just another sheep of society, I want my life to be worth something, and once it is then I'll plant a garden.
I just want all of my curiosities solved, then I'll embrace death, knowing I have no regrets.
>>7999816
if you stopped pretending that you are more important than all of the other 'sheep' you'd be happier
>>7999823
I'm not saying I'm more important than them, I just want to actually contribute to humanity, and not be a generic individual.
Immortality is like dividing by 0.
But i bet we will have a average life span of in a couple decades. Long, boring, impoverished lives, but at least we might still be breathing.
>>7999830
>generic individual
>generic
>individual
do you see the flaw in your logic?
you are projecting your ideals onto others that are seeking or sought something different in life than you
We will likely one day find a way of living millions of years as long as we keep progressing at this rate, but I'm sorry to say I doubt it'll be in our lifetimes.
Singularity will happen and people will be able to revive someone from the past no matter how far away. Since humanity will live forever even if the chance of someone reviving you is very small, in an infinite amount of time it will happen. Since you don't even exist during that time you will just stop thinking and then immediately wake up in distant future.
Trust me my familiada.
>>7999839
>yfw you're the last generation to miss out on immortality
>>7999838
I respect what most people have sought out for in life, I'm mainly just talking about the new young generation who are doing jackshit and are freelancing off their parents while getting rich from lip syncing videos, I respect anyone who has a goal in life, and I hope that they achieve that goal, I'm just saying that in the modern days you need more than hard work to reach these goals, you also need luck, which is why I feel my life is rather pointless as I'll never really achieve my goals.
>>7999852
I actually had the opportunity to chat with a nobel laureate last week, I guess you could consider him one of those people that combined hard work and luck
he knew it was lucky too
he also is still working in science, trying to get funding, trying to make people believe in his latest work
so how you judge the success of others (not just the 'sheep', but also the highly successful) is not how they perceive it intuitively
in other words, none of us can truly succeed by your logic, you'll never 'make' it there. you might set goals now, but those goals will always be changing
>>7999877
I realise I sound like a dick categorizing people so I apologise, I believe that hard work deserves what it gives you even if luck is also a large factor, if you worked for what you want then you deserve it.
I plan to live my life to the best of my abilities and try to achieve the best I can, and hopefully I will be happy with my life, and I hope other anons live their life to the best of their ability too, however I'm not a very positive person and I often look at downsides before anything else
But as I was originally saying, I'm simply scared to die while my life has not been what I want it to be. And by my logic I believe it's still possible to achieve your goals, as I believe in hard work, but I also see that you need at least some luck.
>>7996716
>>7999903
are you worried that you'll have a slow, inevitable death (by death I mean process of dying, of course we all die) where you'll mull these thoughts over and drive yourself insane? the amazing thing is that as you age your brain changes, so that you find different (some would say deeper) meanings to life. And during the dying process your brain will release chemicals that will cause your state of mind to drastically change so these thoughts of 'regret' will be blunted
>>7999967
I knew about how you are calmed upon death but I never knew your brains actual way of thinking changes as you get older.
Well I guess you learn something new every day.
take some psychedelics, guaranteed you will shit on your fear of death
>>8000019
tim ferriss is that you?
>>8000026
u wot?
I searched up Tim Ferris and I don't see how in any way this resembles him
>>8000062
he's probably the most famous proponent of ayahuasca and some of the other psychs
he has a number of really good podcast episodes with spiritual healers talking about the various compounds they use and in what scenarios they employ them
you might find it interesting: http://fourhourworkweek.com/2015/09/14/are-psychedelic-drugs-the-next-medical-breakthrough/
>>8000068
oh thanks I'll be sure to check that out
>>7996716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh517TMtVbo
>>7996933
just fucking end it then. we don't need people who don't appreciate life
>>7997047
truth
>>7998271
deathfags should just kill themselves already desu senpai
>hurr durr why do you care you wont care when your dead
just kill yourself right now then, there are painless ways of doing it. Your dead self wont care, right?
Thats what I thought.
>>7996907
Yes.
>>7999241
You're right, I shouldn't even have to say it. It's fucking obvious to anybody with above high school education.
>>7996779
This is true
