What role does male pattern baldness play in the evolution tree? How does it help us?
Type M master race
>>7981650
>How does it help us?
How does hair help us?
>>7981656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuedZ1Y_dU4
>>7981663
Makes it us makes us attractive to the opposite sex.
Note xsibit A. See how she is touching his hair.
Cure when?
Does caffeine shampoo work or is it snake oil?
>>7981650
>How does it help us?
my guess is it helps us get vitamin d while wearing clothes in northern climates
>>7981676
>Makes it us makes us attractive to the opposite sex.
You have cause and effect backwards, friendo.
>>7981650
>tfw 21 and in second stage of type M :(
>>7981650
>Type O
>Literally balding look slike a growing O
TOP KEK YOU CHEEKY CUNTS
>>7981676
>Makes it us makes us attractive to the opposite sex.
most of the guys reproduce around 16-30, before going completely bald, so the argument is invalid.
>>7981656
>balding
>master race
>>7981677
I use it and am type A final stage in op's pic at 27, so no.
>>7981650
Balding is one of the best examples of how evolution really works. Evolution does not select for beneficial traits, it selects against harmful traits. And evolution is an extremely blunt instrument. There are only two outcomes with any trait; either it causes you to die or become sterile or it doesn't.
Baldness provides no advantage, and indeed is quite annoying, but it doesn't kill you or render you incapable of breeding. So it keeps getting passed on forever.
>>7981650
>>7981731
A better way to say it is that evolution selects for sustainable traits.
Most reptiles have a fairly small brain to body size ratio when compared with mammals. More brains are better right and reptiles are older than mammals, so why don't reptiles have larger brains?
Because the price isn't worth the gain. Anatomy is expensive. If you want to be bigger, faster, stronger, smarter, then you will often require more calories. What's the point of having a race car when all you do commute for 15 minutes to work each day in bumper to bumper traffic?
Baldness persists because the drawback is incredibly minor.
>>7981656
>A master race for balding
>>7981676
So bald guys don't get laid. Rock solid logic my friend.
>>7981650
Type M, reporting in. I think we can all agree that Type O and Type O+M are the most pathetic.
Where my Type O bros at
Also, >tfw 25
>Type O+M
Lord have mercy
>>7981650
Shit happens.
>beginnig stage
>nig
>tfw type m and grey hair at 22 years of age
>>7981731
But the opposite of a relatively harmful trait is a relatively beneficial trait
>>7982465
the opposite is a none relative harmful trait
lrn2logic
>>7981650
I'm a 19 year old KV and I don't want to go bald or be infertile what do?
So I'm Mexican and people here rarely go bald, why is that?
>>7982529
They die in cartels before they can go bald
>>7982491
No
If a bacterium doesn't have the ability to breakdown a certain protein, that's a relatively detrimental trait to survival compared to other bacteria if the protein is numerous enough
If a bacterium does have the ability, that means it has a relatively beneficial trait
Type M beginning stage since I was a child
My father is the same type and stage at 70.
I guess it must not be a beginning stage in our case.
>>7981677
the only three things that work are transplants, minoxidil and propecia.
everything else, especially stuff you'll see in consumer products, is clearly snake oil.
>>7981691
They all look like the letters
>>7981656
Type M represent!
>being a low DHT NW0 fag
>>7981650
evolution by natural selection doesnt produce the "best" thing over. All it has to do is work. otherwise we would be jetting around on biological wheels instead of legs
>>7982555
Actually ketoconazole shampoo like nizoral is helpful against balding. Keto+ propecia + minox is considered a holy trinity against baldness. start a regimen and you will likely keep your hair for a decade or 2 more.
>>7983347
that fucking dot in second stage
Maybe hair loss is beneficial for heat loss purposes. A transition from an active hunter gatherer to a sedentary ,more muscular and therefore higher heat generation, lifestyle.
bald at 30 reporting in
might get a transplant after I finish school
>>7983685
nah. you look sexy this way
>>7983535
Man, I had a friend who talked for years about how weird it is that no creature ever evolved wheels.
We tried to reason with him how there really where no roads in the past and that any 'wheel-rats' should've just start evolving during the last few centuries.
Another school of though meant that there is no way to bring nutrition to keep the bio-wheel healthy while spinning free.
It essentially need some way to dock with the host during rest, it's also very hard to dream up useful intermediate stages for a bio-wheel propulsion system.
>>7981650
It helps women identify beta males and alpha males and act accordingly:
Bald Beta males = bad genes but good providing capability, women will extract resources (beta bux) from bald beta to provide for offspring of genetically-superior alpha
Non-balding Alpha males = genetically superior, women want to get impregnated (alpha fux) by superior genes in order for maximum gene transmission (sexy sons hypothesis)
in b4 white knights and toasty roasties claim sexual selection doesn't apply to humans when it applies to every other species
>>7983685
nigga u look like yul brynner
>>7983707
>70% of men are beta males
>>7983720
Sounds about right senpai
Type M reporting in. I'm somewhere in between first and second stage and the middle part of my hair is starting to thin a lot. I'm only 22.
Might go and see my doctor soon and ask whether it's a good idea to start using finasteride.
>>7983740
Just shave it all of and become a wizard, like this guy >>7983584
>>7983740
Pussy
>>7983740
>finasteride
don't do it bro, it's literally chemically castrating yourself
DHT is a much more powerful androgen than normal test, by inhibiting it you run the risk of getting gyno or getting perma ED
why fuck with your precious bodily fluids like that? what's the point in having a full head of hair if you don't have the sex drive to capitalize on it?
O + M here.
At least I'm not O.
I'm in between the first and second stage on type M. I'd say about 1/4 of the way. So at this point it's not possible to tell due to my haircut, unless it's very windy.
Anyway I'm not that fussed. Once it gets worse I'm going to jump on steroids and cash in my natty card. Will work myself up to 120-130kg bw.
GOING TO GO 6'4 130kg BALD BEAST MODE AND SCARE THE FUCK OUT OF EVERYONE
>>7983753
I-it's okay if I take a lower dose than what is prescribed though, right?
>>7981650
Tells females that your seed is old, dried up and useless.
>>7984227
>yet plenty of bald men fuck women every day and make babies
>>7981656
this desu
>>7983753
dude, that only affects like the 2% people under treatment.
>>7983734
>translate this plot to IQ, and you have a world where the women think 58 percent of men are brain damage
the irony
I can't contain my laughter
>>7986601
What exactly is ironic about that you white knight chucklefuck?
>>7983701
the thing is many creatures can assume a spherical shape and roll! so it isn't necessary for creatures have a freely rotating wheel. But yeah you bring up a good point, there arent too many natural places on earth where rotating locomotion is useful/ suitable to the terrain.
>>7983707
the best part about your post is you think beta bux and alpha fux is witty. Top kek my friend.
>>7986617
the irony is that women would think of men as brain damaged while the reality is the exact opposite.
>>7983685
Go with a dark suit
Get off the finasteride hype train especially if you haven't tried minoxidil first. Minoxidil+transplant at age 30-35 is way safer combo.
>tfw 60yo dad isn't balding or even greying
>tfw his three older brothers aren't bald and are barely grey either
>tfw inheriting perfect hair genes
>>7982495
Exercise, eat a good diet, don't jerk off too much
>>7983685
nigga, just lift. you look good imo.
>>7986796
>yfw you find out it skips a generation
>>7987545
Fixed that for you
>>7983347
I don't see how a hairline like the one pictured is necessarily receded at all - many people have a natural hairline like that, since childhood.
>>7981663
its a result of overselecting for high-testosterone.
male pattern baldness is god's way of preventing us from devolving back into a species of bloodthirsty monsters.
>>7986844
So he can look like mr. clean if he gets jacked?
>>7981656
>Trying to justify balding
>>7981650
>How does it help us?
Yet another one of these "what's the evolutionary advantage of bullshit!?!1one1" threads?
It doesn't help us:
- How does atopic skin help us?
- How does type 1 diabetes help us?
- How does lactose intolerance or celiac disease help us?
- How does bad breath help us?
- How do small boobs help women?
- How does cancer help us? (about as common as baldness)
Human beings are flawed. We live way beyond what nature originally intended us to. We're filled with mistakes, problems, issues, and minor nuisances, every single damn one of us.
What does it take to ram it through your heads that evolution isn't something that happens by design? It's not just a scientific alternative to religions or other children's stories of intelligent design, it's something completely different. Mutations are random, but within that randomness, the traits that have an actual positive impact on a species' survival tend to survive and propagate, while those that have a negative impact tend to die off. And everything inbetween just randomly tags along and tends to survive. But it's an ongoing process.
So whatever happens to us after mid 20's has very little to do with evolution, since throughout most of our - and our genetic ancestors' - existence, our lives haven't been longer than that.
>>7983755
It's literally that ugliest type
>>7988356
>- How do small boobs help women?
Less strain on the back, lower chance for breast cancer, more attractive to men with higher income to name a few (source for the last one: https://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/m.j.tovee/Swami-JScEc-2008.pdf, or just google it, there's a lot more studies)
Also, just because it is not immediately visible, doesn't mean there's a benefit, for example there exists a gene variationthat causes men to be born deaf, yet at the same time improves wound healing
If there is no benefit, then the gene variation will die out slowly over time, but if there the benefits are "good enough" compared to the downsides, it will survive
Any wide-spread gene variation at least has some benefits, otherwise it wouldn't be wide-spread
>>7981650
Are you trying to imply that every genetic mutation has to help us?
Because that's not how it works
>>7981656
>>7981680
>>7981650
Balding is a work-in-progress for natural selection. It's basically just a error/dysfunction that happens when humans grow older because the human species is not perfect.
Also, we rushed evolution and stopped here where we are now, so I don't think it's going to get much better.
>>7983707
Five-star post.
>>7982444
that's kind of sexy
>>7981650
Nigga evolution don't give a shit about you, if you've already bred then whatever happens to you afterwards is of only minor consequence.
>>7983685
>30
>still in school
you have worse things to worry about than balding
>>7983765
Dose is flatlined, doesn't matter how much Finasteride you take it'll still be cycled the same way a 5mg Propecia pill gets through to your system.
>>7981650
it has led to increased hat production
![o-USAIN-BOLT-570[1].jpg_1.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u9T5qu9.jpg "o-USAIN-BOLT-570[1].jpg_1.jpg")
>>7981650
Reduced air resistance when running.
> pic related
Coincidence? I think not.
>>7983685
Save the money and go to a tailor instead.
>>7991171
>implying he fell for the highschool to college meme
>>7981650
Bald body of modern human is consequence of an illness made by viruses to a human specie.
>>7981650
Perverts did bald bodies fashionable.
>>7981650
Dirty prehistory savages prefer bald sexual partners because disgusting of louses
>>7981650
Bald head don't have protection from Sunlight and therefore work bad so act as a devolution factor.
>>7982465
The thing is that people generally reproduce before they show signs of balding, so having more hair after reproduction is irrelevant to whether you have already reproduced or not. It's similar to why cancer is not selected against, because generally cancer doesn't develop until you are older, long after you have reproduced.
>>7981650
>type O+M second stage
JUST
>>7981650
balding probably hasn't played much of a role before modern times given that it hasn't really been that big of a factor in sexual selection as men have generally procreated before balding in their rather short lifespans
>>7981650
It was made specifically so that you would create this thread at right that moment. Congratulations, anon. You did your job, imposed by Greater Will, splendidly.
>>7988356
>>7988390
Humans females are the only mammals to have full breasts when not actively nursing offspring
All female monkeys and apes walk on all fours, when a female is in estrus (fertile and ready to breed) their sex organs engorge and become bright red, this is the signal to males
Most female mammals are only fertile at certain time of the year so this signaling is important for reproduction
When humans began walking upright this signal was no longer readily visible, when a human female becomes fertile, which is nearly a permanent state, unlike apes, facial lips swell, as do cheeks, breasts also swell, giving males visual clues
No other mammal gives birth to young that are as helpless as humans, a female needed a partner to help with food and protection, a female with permanently swollen lips, breasts and a large backside kept males interested even when she was not fertile and caused them to stay close and help her, so they would have opportunities to mate and reproduce
That's why a swollen ass, large breasts and big lips evoke a predictable response in most normal men
"Forget it, Jake; it's Genetic"
>>7995199
Love me some tits and ass
