why do some scientists calls themselves materialists, when we
You are currently reading a thread in /sci/ - Science & Math
why do some scientists calls themselves materialists, when we don't know what matter fundamentally is? And the deeper we go the spookier and less "material" it is
seems like Berkley was right all along ;_;
>>7968096
At the quantum level it's all just consciousness and information.
They're empiricists, not materialists. The math is so tantalizing and perfect it leads everyone down the abyss, because you're right, we can't even say for sure what math itself is. And no one seems to acknowledge that.
>>7968104
but isn't that terrible? would be much simpler if subjectivity didn't factor into it
>>7968106
Math is entirely self referential, it doesnt have to "be" anything
>>7968096
Materialism just means you think the universe is entirely based on rules, with nothing supernatural going on