Wim Hof holds over 20 world records for withstanding extreme cold exposure, and has been researched to have some manner of conscious control over his autonomic nervous complex. He's able to thermoregulate to the degree that he /never/ gets hypothermia.
If it's possible for a man to do this through willpower, it's possible to automate it in some fashion. How would /sci/ go about automating and improving thermoregulation?
I've been thinking that a device on the inside of the body heating up past a certain point could trick the rest of it to keep at a matching temperature - there's evidence that the same happens to outside temp (those temperature bracelets by MIT, for example). Anyone know if this would work, in theory?
>>7940487
he killed some nerves or some shit in his foot in the marathon in finland though so it's not /unlimited power/
>>7940487
Whats the benefit of using a machine to control the thermoregulation of the human body vs using a machine that just heats it up?
>>7940487
Do some research about hibernomas to determine how to grow BAT to extreme levels wit the injection of hormones.
I would assume gradual exposure would lead to decreased sensitivity. My guess is like any skill, the trade off is you lose the ability to know when you've exceeded your limits. Porn stars and magicians suppress their gag reflex, but in the event they accidentally the whole cookie (for example), they lose the muscular contraction response to dislodge the cookie.
I doubt he is incapable of hypothermia. I'm no biologist, but I would assume the chemical release of energy (and thus body temperature) is temperature dependent and eventually the inability to regulate temp will start killing tissue. I could see him being able to survive for longer periods of time than most, to the point his arms and legs become frostbitten and trashed, but again it would be due to his body's desensitization to respond.
>>7940487
>>If it's possible for a man to do this through willpower, it's possible to automate it in some fashion.
yes, it is called tummo.
>>7940518
BAT?
>>7940511
I want to see if I can do it. There's no real human implant that improves or adds something to a healthy person just yet.
>>7940520
That's why an implanted option would be best - if it's deactivated or not currently in use, then the body would react as it would before.
Obviously we won't be able to create something that protects from extreme enough cold that metabolism would be impossible. I'm aiming for sustained effects around -10, -20 Fahrenheit.
>>7940548
Brown Fat
>>7940548
pacemakers are regulators. hypothermia is a feedback loop between the physical effects of cooling and the nervous effect of protocoled homeostasis. han likely practices to not think with his mind, but his spine, to regulate blood pressure in his extremities. this does not ward off the physical effects of cooling though, it only trades tissue damage for a much shorter exposure time, (as the blood is now circulating colder temperatures systematically)
>>7940523
is that guy still alive?
>>7940557
a few religious people claim so, but most buddhist would say that he is dead.
>>7940556
Which is the goal, essentially. Trading irreversible cell death for a reversible condition, and elimination of other effects (shaking, for example). The exposure time that he shows is prolongued, as well.
You can't send the nervous signals directly with current technology, so the best way would be to trick the body into ignoring outside physical effects and keep regulating blood pressure as it would normally. What's the best way to achieve this, though?
bump for general interest
>>7940487
well, I don't know about this guy but I personally almost never get cold and wear a t-shirt in all temperatures. I think that when I'm in a cold atmosphere my metabolism just goes into hyperdrive to keep my body in a comfy state because usually when I'm in sub zero temperatures and then go into roomtemp I instantly get really hot and start sweating.
I really don't think he is conciously raising his body temperature, I would guess that regularly entering ice baths and that sort of shit has trained his body to react better to cold
Wow there is icecobes!!!! So cold
There is air trapped inside. Let's see what happens we take ice cold water and put him there.
And if this is true >>7940508
, he is just a hoax
>>7940523
It is very strange that many Buddhist monks do not decay.
>>7940548
>fahrenheit
Do you suffer from frostbite of the brain?
>>7941347
Can you trick metabolism into acting that way, though? I know some shitters in MIT tricked people's skin into feeling colder/warmer because of a cold radiating armband
>>7941367
>Not using the superior system
look at this low epistemology pleb.
>>7941399
>not kelvin
>not Celsius
>Superior
>>7941365
He does it in ice water all the time. He has training videos of him diving in water under ice on youtube. This guy has scientific papers about his training techniques and has performed a few rigorous lab studies showing how he maintains normal body temperature in ice water.
Go research more instead of being so wrong about "trapped air keeping him warm".
He's done some cool stuff with the immune system as well, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24799686
>>7941405
>implying fahrenheit isn't by far the best for inferring human temperature ranges and making quick estimations.
>b-but my neat 0 and 100 numbers!!!1111
A range of 32 to 100 is much better than a range of 0 to 35. Which are the things that matter when you're talking about people.
>>7941431
Why is the 32 to 100 range better? Is it because of the smaller intervals? Do you use the metric system?
>>7941446
Because it's got a larger range. 60 degrees to 95 in celsius is like 20-35. Temperature changes that would be 1-2 degrees in F are decimals in C, which adds unneeded complexity and lowers the potential for quick visualizations. There's nothing wrong with Celsius - it's better in things like chemical temperature, for instance. It's just not the best for human temperature ranges.
>>7941468
No, the use of Fahrenheit induces phony precision. Decimals in degrees cannot be meaningfully distinguished by humans and are irrelevant.
The one exception to this is fever. Amazingly, non-retards are able to handle the decimals there.
could it be said that the only reason we dont use kelvin as a standard is because of our history with mercury thermometers
>>7941371
>>Can you trick metabolism into acting that way, though?
see >>7940523
where you dilate your blood vessel exactly where you skin is cold, so you end up being very red where your are cold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZJik8ncXtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS0fiGSqAzc
bymp
>>7940487
Wow, that guy's cool.
