Is McKenna's stoned ape theory bullshit?
>>7919559
What would make you think this had any validity?
DUDE LSD LMAO
The stoned ape theory is stupid because it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the evolutionary process. The theory is pretty much claiming that exposure to psychoactive substances caused physical changes which were then passed on to offspring, which is impossible. Enhanced vocal cords and communication centers in the brain helped create spoken language, not some shrooms
>>7919661
>implying Lamarck wasn't right all along
>>7919661
Psychoactive substanves caused mutation in offspring, which is plausible
Fractal timewave was the physics discovery of the century
>>7919559
>>7919661
I don't think that is his theory, so why don't you calm down for now
I believe mckenna thinks humans who took psychedelics, stimulants, and anxiolytics were selected, while those who didn't weren't. And that we are thus a druggie species. I am sure this applies to alcohol and stimulants in a sense, that humans have an easy time with alcohol and caffeine for example, but I don't have put much thought into the whole psychedelics selection yet
>>7919874
No, that's not plausible.
>>7919559
For the posters in this thread, I believe his theory comes from some receptors in the brain that seem to hold no purpose other than to receive external psycho-active chemicals
I have not confirmed this and will not bother, but if you'd like to, have at it
>>7919991
I wouldn't say it's pharmacology, but one of the cutest things we did was to make azetidine analogs of LSD: using the diethylamide, we took a carbon and hooked the two ethyls of LSD together and that gave us a dimethylazetidine. We had the methyls on the same side of that four-membered ring or on the opposite sides, either with R,R or S,S stereochemistry, showing that it was just one of those that was most like LSD. This proved that with LSD, when the diethylamide binds, those diethyl groups bind in a specific way. Then we modeled it, and we did mutagenesis of the receptor--and we haven't published this yet--and found that leucine 229 in extracellular loop 2 was the thing that interacted with that diethyl amide. The fact that the receptor has evolved specifically to be complementary to LSD, that is interesting.
>The fact that the receptor has evolved specifically to be complementary to LSD, that is interesting.
https://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/nichols_david/nichols_david_interview1.shtml
>>7920010
> ayy
This is where shit gets interesting
Why them receptors there ?
>>7919970
Introducing foreign substances into the body always has a chance of causing mutation
>>7919661
That's not his theory actually.
>>7919559
>stoned ape theory
actually hypothesis
• psilocybin confers improved vision and attention
• improved nutrition as a result
• greater mating opportunity as a result
• more genetic diversity, more rapid evolution
• selection for intellect and aesthetic
not the worst of all possible hypotheses, but finding evidence to support it is a problem
>>7919661
Stop calling it a theory unless it was published in scientific paper.
Following your logic every teenager stoner group should be considered researches in field.
>>7920360
It also lead to a more unproductive behavior, to a higher chance of actually dying.
>>7920365
Stop calling it a theory if it is just a published hypothesis. Following your logic every sociology/economics/stoner group should be considered scientists in field.
>>7920360
•whoah
•I didn't
•realize
•we could
•use bullet
•points
>>7919559
McKenna's idea's aren't even taken seriously by academic philosophers. let that tell you where his ideas stand among intellectuals.
>>7920380
>Stop calling it a theory if it is just a published hypothesis.
THIS
I would think /sci/ of all places would understand the difference between an "idea" and a "THEORY".
>>7920232
Your case of FAS is not proof of this.
>>7920373
>unproductive behavior
not part of the hypothesis, try to focus
>>7921248
>not part of the hypothesis
That's the point, idiot. Put down the bong and try to use your brain for a second.
>>7920807
jesus m8
i laughed
I always assumed that the Stoned Ape theory was less of a genuine belief and more something interesting and fun to think about. Imagine the feeling of being on psychedelics from the perspective of a non-human animal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50tlF3kGbT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmnzIhbX2bg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LwQ0ZiTYkQ
