>Stem degree has a mandatory psychology module.
>1/4 of the new MCAT is psychology
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>wahh I have to take classes that aren't hard sciences
Grow up.
>>7864576
Psychology can be interesting anon, give it a try.
>>7864576
At my school only stem degrees i know that do this are CS and SE. Its like the school knows these programs are full of autists so they make them take these social psychology classes. Good thing im CpE, dodged a bullet
>i don't like psychology
>>7864578
Yeah why would a doctor need to know anything about human psychology when the main part of their job is to treat and work with people.
>>7864576
>being forced to take courses that have nothing to do with the degree
Only in 'murrica. You guys can't understand that University and High School should be different things.
>>7864671
There's nothing wrong with getting a rounded education. The problem is that everyone spends too much time complaining about "this is so useless for me" that they get nothing out of the experience.
>>7864674
>The problem is that everyone spends too much time complaining about "this is so useless for me" that they get nothing out of the experience.
This, I wish people would just enjoy their course. I mean, that is what you're there for right?
>>7864576
The problem with psychology is that its really new and it is dealing with the most complex software we know of.
But human behaviour follow patterns and there is no reason we can not build models to predict these patterns to some extent. Its like trying to reverse engineer a machine code. I think psychology is going in the right direction.
>>7864674
>>7864683
There is a simple solution to make people enjoy them: just stop making it mandatory so only the people interested will take it.
You should already have a "rounded education" after highschool, otherwise your education system has failed you. University is for higher level formation in more specialised fields; it's good to have interdisciplinary knowledge, but you should be able to choose what you think would be helpful for your future (especially considering you're paying for those courses).
>>7864683
>>7864674
>>7864658
>enjoying being forced to spend time, money, and energy on something irrelevant
>>7864670
>not if i'm a forensic pathologist
shiggity diggity doo
>>7864710
>I think psychology is going in the right direction.
A study found that over 70% of psychology papers, as well as other social """sciences""", cannot be reproduced at all, do not follow the scientific method, and reach completely non-sequitur conclusions.
In other words, psychology researchers write complete made up bullshit, publish their bullshit, and get to call themselves scientists.
Another point to this is that psychology is not new. It has been going on for decades, even centuries, and still there is no actual science behind psychology. There is not a single model that predicts human behavour. There is no reverse engineering going on. There are no patterns found.
The only knowledge we got from psychology is:
>When you are ordered by a figure with authority, you what you are ordered.
>This 100% worthwhile science :^)
>Thank you for your tax payer money :^)
>This only cost us 50 million dollars :^)
>What do you mean? From where did I get my new Yacht? Oh, gambling :^)
>>7864739
>citations needed
Having a well rounded education keeps you from being and embarrassment to the institution.
>>7864746
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/scientists-replicated-100-psychology-studies-and-fewer-half-got-same-results-180956426/?no-ist
>>7864751
(You) oh man I can't get enough of these universitys adding classes to my curriculum I never want to leave, I could have graduated years ago but I haven't fulfilled my music appreciation requirements yet. its a good thing employers don't believe in on job training anymore otherwise id be forced to start my career in my 20's and never get to take those totally necessary courses in migratory bird droping analysis
>>7864670
Dumb weeaboo
>>7864776
I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm a third year mathematics student if that clears anything up.
>>7864576
yeah, well, one of university's objectives is to produce people with well rounded education. Study this module, you might learn something useful about your autism.
>>7864735
Whenever you get diagnosed with Schizophrenia you'll see how "irrelevant" psychology is.
>>7864829
>Get diagnosed with Schizophrenia
>Go to psychologists
>Pay her to talk shit for 50 minutes
>Go home
>Still with schizophrenia
>Next day
>Go to real doctor
>Get actual, science-proven medication
>Now feel better
>Go to psychologists place
>Shit on her yard for being a fucking con-artist
>Feel even better
>>7864833
the field of psychology studied and developed medicine to treat Schizophrenic you fucking idiot. You're thinking of a therapist you fucking idiot.
You are an autistic fucking idiot, you fucking idiot.
>>7864833
yeah, well, mate, shitting on someone's yard is not considered "feeling better"
>>7864836
>the field of psychology studied and developed medicine to treat Schizophrenic
No they didn't. They just studied it.
Point me to the fucking psychology education with enough chemistry, biology and physics to train them into even making babby aspirin, sperglord.
>>7864836
I think you're mistaking psychology for psychiatry.
>ITT: Butthurt psychbabby majors trying to prove their major is a real science
>>7864671
Not only in USA, I'm European and I have to take like four or six semesters of humanities courses
>>7864847
>ITT: Autistic STEM majors sperg out over the perceived "purity" of their subject as if that has any relevance to the real world
I can do this too desu.
>>7864833
>Get diagnosed with Schizophrenia
>Psychologist just talks shit. She just wants to hurt me and steal my money. Doesn't know what's going on. I do. I'm above her.
>Goes and gets a placebo effect.
>Yeah see bitch! I'm not crazy.
>Shits on her lawn
>That'll show her how not crazy I am.
>>7864855
>I'm above her
As I study pure mathematics, I agree with this statement.
>>7864852
>implying psychology has or has ever had any relevance in the real world
loving every kek
>>7864852
>ITT: People think that more than just STE majors care about relevance to the real world.
>>7864868
>implying I said it did
Reading comprehension is hard, huh?
>>7864874
That's what you were implying you autist.
Having social awareness is hard, huh?
>>7864881
>reading implications that aren't there into things
Too much time on 4chan, my friend.
>>7864752
>The studies tested were selected by individuals who found expressed interest in the area and only on recent studies
>The most surprising results were less likely to be replicated
>The main problem lied in studies that used relatively high p values
Is this the study every sperg post on here all the time cause this doesn't seem to prove shit when it comes to well known psychological effects that are well tested. It only shows how important peer reviewing is and why not to take a single experiment to heart and instead look at a multitude ranging on the topic.
>>7864776
Being retarded is tough huh?
>>7864735
then get a fucking tech degree or something
>>7865316
So what? It is still pretty sub-par considering how reliable results are in STEM. Also you can not call psychology a science if there are still schools who do not consider it (every therapist today).
>>7864576
why not history? or a language?
something smells very fishy.
psychology isnt a science. psychology is like searching for a needle in a giant pile of stinking shit.
you are going to school at an asshat factory.
>>7864674
>>7864726
I have coworkers that have graduated from american universities and they dont recognize any any philosophy, economics, literature, etc, that i mention. so much for that well rounded education. universities should just give up on forcing liberal arts/soft science classes on STEM students and give them free elective credits and let them choose what they want to learn. it will probably save everyone some grief
>>7864726
>but you should be able to choose what you think would be helpful for your future
you can. the people who complain about taking bullshit "feels" classes in college are the ones who register at the last fucking minute and just pick a bunch of random credits off the flow chart.
its not the american secondary education system, its lazy cunts who can't take accountability for their own education.
>>7864576
>Psychology
http://www.weeklystandard.com/print/articles/making-it-all_1042807.html
just bullshit your way through the course...
>>7864576
I looked up a degree in Chinese Mandarin at a college and there was a mandatory course on Indigenous Australians. lol figure that one out.
>>7866450
Was it an Australian university? Seems weird to study indigenous Australians outside Australia. They're probably one of the least influential groups of humans in history.
>>7866471
Yes, it is in Australia.
>>7866473
Was it La Trobe? I think they require every student to do a unit about aboriginals, regardless of their degree area.
>>7866477
USQ, a regional university in SE QLD. Hmm maybe it is other universities as well.
>>7866478
It's generally only the lower-ranked pleb universities. I mean USQ isn't even top 600. La Trobe only just scrapes into the top 400.
>>7864670
>MCAT tests to see if you already know everything you need to be a doctor
>>7864670
Yeah because Freud is way more important than organic chemistry and physics.
>>7864683
Students end up paying quite a lot of money to study stuff they've never asked to study though. Can't relate but it kinda sounds absurd.
>>7866640
Then why do they pay to go to such an institution? Why not go somewhere else?
>>7866791
Some companies tend to make it a requirement, and it's kind of normal to choose high-quality courses over low-quality ones. If the students just interested in acquiring more mathematical knowledge and are willing to pay thousands of dollars for it, why can't Academies work like any other paying service ? Nobody minds about bonus options, but 1/4 of the service I asked for, being other stuff I don't need ? That's way too much.
I also suppose most others institutions impose those classes as well, where else do you want them to go ?
>>7866862
Before I reply to this properly, can you verify what you mean by "companies" and "academies"?
>>7866873
Respectively private corporation, and higher education institutions.
Not a native speaker if it wasn't obvious
>>7866885
If some companies make it a requirement for you to take such courses, and you opt to take them, then it's not the fault of the university or the company. After all, if you wish to work with the company then it's implicit that such a course will be useful. If you don't like it, pick another company.
I mean, I really can't relate to this, but I chose my institution based on its course content and quality. There was a university ranked around the same, either 1 or 2 above or below mine, but had too much emphasis for mathematics from a numerical analysis side, so I simply didn't go for them. High quality institutions tend to have really varied courses when compared to each other, so is:
>I also suppose most others institutions impose those classes as well, where else do you want them to go
really a problem?
>>7866900
>some companies make it a requirement for you to take [psychology]
what do they sell? vacuum cleaners? encyclopedias?
>>7866900
I meant you might be more likely to be hired by certain companies if you have a degree from specific, prestigious universities that, however, happen to have mandatory psychology classes.
>I chose my institution based on its course content and quality
Makes sense, but then what's OP complaining about ?
>>7866917
Sorry, I'm not really following what you're trying to say.
I'm referring to
>Some companies tend to make it a requirement
from a slightly earlier post.
>>7866922
Ah I see... but once again, isn't this your own fault for wanting to get into these companies? You can't really complain about that then.
>>7864710
Except that's not psychology, that's cognitive science/psychology.
>>7864576
>ITT: signs that your school is actually a tuition farm.
>>7864836
>>7864833
>>7864845
>>7864842
Get your facts straight first.
>>7866623
Freuds theories aren't believed by any psychologists any more.
>>7864576
Heys goys, I finished high-school math and college math without ever learning how to do integrals. The school and college taught it - i just didnt pay attention, and then passed the exams by just skipping the questions about integrals and solving everything else.
Studying CS by the way, so i had only 4 math classes if that matters.
How fucked am i for my future life, for not learning integrals?
>>7864576
>math major
>have to take psych course for general ed
>3 years later about to graduate Psychological Sciences with math minor
no regrets
>>7867236
Here's your (You)
>>7867236
Even the most SHITTY schools including community colleges make CS majors take up to calc 2 at the minimum. How did you pass calc 2 without doing any integration?
If you never took calc 2. Please tell me the school you go to
>>7867257
A college in Eastern Europe.
>>7867228
But other quacks like Jean Piaget are.
>>7867257
>Even the most SHITTY schools including community colleges make CS majors take up to calc 2 at the minimum
Nope. All that is required for CS is 1 semester of discrete math. No Linear Algebra, Calculus, Probability or Statistics is absolutely needed.
>>7868664
>Nope. All that is required for CS is 1 semester of discrete math. No Linear Algebra, Calculus, Probability or Statistics is absolutely needed.
>murrica
>>7864868
Yeah mental health isnt real
>>7864576
I had ethics, it was pretty interesting. Good professor too.
>>7864576
>implying the study of ourselves and neuroscience is not important
pretty sure the only reason you faggots bag on it is because its a popular field
>>7864576
>Stem degree has mandatory ethics
>>7864576
>look into classes to take
>one of them is about AI, but 75% of the class material is basically just a rehash of Algorithms and Datastructures, Logic, Probability, and Programming (logic programming)
>>7868658
Modern developmental psychology only use Piaget as a basis for further study. Most of his ideas have been rejected or improved on.
>grading linear algebra homework
>question asks for the dimension of one vector space
>student answers with a list of 5 numbers
>>7871843
Well, was the vector space 5 dimensional?
> The only mandatory classes in my CS PHD are interdisciplinarity bullshit.
I already have to teach C to stupid student, don't waste more of my time.
>>7871849
no it was 3 dimensional
irregardless your answer should not be "dim=0,1,2,3,4"
>>7867236
Bait
>major in psychology
>most courses involve neuro-
>main professor is female and one of the most rational women I've ever known
>doesn't show a bias towards females
>teaches facts like females not being wired for monogamy, males fall in love faster and out of love slower than females, etc
>girl students faces when
Last two years of undergrad were wonderful. Didn't even have to take a single course related to Clinical.
>>7870069
>neuroscience
Don't ever conflate psychology and neuroscience
>>7864863
You know, I´m going to study mathmatics, but I´m reluctant to because I´m afraid everyone there will have the same superiority-complex as you
>>7872077
Yeah underpowered reverse inference studies are great
>>7872077
Where do you think behavior originates from if not the brain? Neuroscience and psychology are as intermarried as chemistry and physics. They are one and the same in all but name.
>>7871980
>irregardless
dur
>>7872474
Anon was talking about neuroscience as a subset of psychology
You wouldn't talk about Physics as a subset of chem
