>>7748663
Yes. Going into a career you're not good at that also has low job prospects is a really bad choice.

>>7748663
Do short courses in programming and/or business. You'll get some white collar/neo blue collar job.

>>7748674
>Do short courses in programming and/or business.

You mean like certificate programs?

>>7748678
Probably ocw and stuff. Certificates aren't that meaningful.

>>7748663
>tfw can't get any job with this degree

You probably haven't tried hard enough.

Care to tell us what kind of jobs you have been applying for?

>>7748663
Did you at least teach yourself some programming? Learn up on algorithms? Develop any sort of remotely useful skills?
A BS in mathematics means you can prove 100+-year old theorems. That's all.
The one advantage you have is that employers look at a BS in mathematics and know you at least have some problem-solving abilities. That means if you also have some experience in programming then it's highly likely you can program your way out of a paper-bag, unlike the majority of CS mouth-breathers. However, without any sort of applicable skills you're literally just a dude who can regurgitate some theorems in the eyes of any prospective employer.

>>7748663
Banach space

>>7748764
>Did you at least teach yourself some programming?
He shouldn't have to. Any math degree worth its salt will teach you at least two semester of practical programming and one or two in algorithms.

Seriously, from the 80k debt I can inquire that he is from america so, america get your math degrees up to par will you? The biggest markets for math majors are in finance and technology (the whole range of what the technology industry is).

>A BS in mathematics means you can prove 100+-year old theorems. That's all.
This is not true. If you are pretty smart yourself (or have strong memorization skills) you will be able to prove a bunch of theorems but a good math degree will be filled with applied classes like statistics and, as I said, some computer science.

And if for some reason OP actually paid 80k for a degree with 0 applied skills then he really is no better than a humanities fag.

Source: math major.

>>7748772
Not all maths degrees are applied maths.

>>7748777
But that is the problem. My degree, for example, is not a degree in applied mathematics. The primary goal of it (specially in the last 4 semesters) is to prepare the students for grad school in mathematics but that does not stop it from being able to teach many easily applicable classes.

In all honesty, american pure mathematics degree are borderline retarded.

Unfortunately the applied mathematics degrees are not any better. I've seen curriculums that will have you learn fucking chemistry and biology. What the fuck is up with that?

How did this happen? How did the biggest academic country in the world manage to construct the two most useless STEM degrees in the entire world? It simply does not resonate with me.

>>7748782
Because you don't understand the value of a well-rounded education. If the universities in your country are so much better, why aren't they pumping out Nobel laureates or world-changing entrepeneurs?

>>7748663
>>tfw GPA too low to get into any graduate program
How low is it?

>>7748791
> a well-rounded education.

Sorry but a well-rounded education is one that mixes both pure and applied mathematics so that graduates can feel free to go into industry or go to grad school without problem.

Instead what you have is pure math degrees where 1% of the graduates will go to grad school and only about 20% of that 1% will even find a position as a tenured professor in the end so for what even? Meanwhile, the 99% from the original bunch have to struggle finding jobs because they, like OP, already have too much debt or simply are not good enough to go even deeper.

> If the universities in your country are so much better

A little fragile are we not? I never attacked your universities. I'm just saying that the way your math departments are structured seems weird.

One choice will give you no applicable skills while the other will waste your time with classes that will never serve you because a fucking applied math major will never work in a chemistry or biology laboratory for fucks sake.

>why aren't they pumping out Nobel laureates or world-changing entrepeneurs?

There are quite a handful of entrepreneurs coming out of here but you got me with the Nobel.

Your education is probably better (and it better fucking be, because my university is 100% free while you have to pay tens of thousands of dollars a year) and pure math are better at training the really outstanding prodigies that are just destined to be succesful .

However, having a prodigy-centric education is not the way to go about things. It is certainly not the way to keep a healthy economy.

As I said my degree is not pure nor applied and the degree is just called 'Mathematics'. Maybe you should take a lesson from that and drop your pure and applied curriculums and just have one curriculum named 'Mathematics' with various electives in both the applied and pure realms of mathematics.

Or, you know, don't do anything at all.

>>7748663
You can always become a private tutor/teacher

>>7748806
Give me some examples of notable people graduating from these supposedly superior maths degrees in your country. Or any other degrees in your country.

>>7748813
You know that your universities' reputation is fundamentally predicated on their research output and not their teaching standards right?
..and you know graduates from your big name universities only go on to remarkable success because they're so selective right?
...and you know that students only go there for the name recognition right?
...?

>>7748813
I honestly don't have any names so... you win?

However, it is very foolish of you to think that the success of a few math graduates translates into 'all math grads are doing just fine so our curriculums are just fine'.

But, as I said.
>Or, you know, don't do anything at all.

Which seem to be the attitute you americans take for everything really.

Just like you don't do anything about how your universities are so incredibly expensive that many can't even afford to go or pay their loans after graduation.

>>7748678
Certificates yes.

>>7748744 is retarded.

Certs are very important in IT and directly correlate with your salary.

Getting something in business shows people you aren't an aspie so you can get promoted to middle management in whatever company.

>>7748823
I'm not even American, just wanted to watch you cling to that assumption as it's interesting how jealous you are. I'm just not stupid enough to pretend American universities aren't outperforming the rest of the world. Face it, if your universities were so good they would be producing higher quality graduates than the American universities you love to hate. This evidently isn't happening.
You're a classic case of inferiority complex, and it hurts to watch you beat yourself up in jealous rage.

>>7748838
What the fuck are you talking about?

In my past two posts I have exclaimed how I believe the american higher education is better than mine and every else's for that matter.

I even literally said
>Your education is probably better

But you are still not getting my point.

American math curriculums are top tier, definitely, but you could have it better.

In my opinion, any math grad should have an easy way into industry and that is not what the results are showing. That problem is very easily fixable, just add in more applied classes to 'pure' degrees, maybe even as electives if you so desire, just don't leave your math majors empty handed when they try to get a job.

>>7748806
Idk about him but at my school there isn't really a pure math major, applied math major or even statistics major. There;s just a math major that you can fill the requirements for by focusing on pure, applied, or stats classes and even then you have to take one of two classes from the category you're not choosing (like if you choose to focus on pure math you still have to take a couple applied and stats classes), There's only one semester of CS required though and it's just the intro to programming class. My school is a pretty mid tier private school though so I'm sure at better schools in the country they have an even more well-rounded math curriculum.

>>7748782
>I've seen curriculums that will have you learn fucking chemistry and biology. What the fuck is up with that?

general ed for all STEM majors. They're all required to take some math and physics, chem too (esp. engineering majors)