how do I deal with depression /sci/?
specially the fact it make you give up on your hobbies and goals.
are there any good medicine?
>>7731702
I was pretty depressed for 2 months until I started visiting sci regugarly, learning math and forcing myself to watch a ton of pop sci video's. The latter really helps to get all the negative thoughts out.
Just dont go to any other board
>>7731702
Welcome to depression. It'll only get worse. There is no cure. The only escape is suicide. You may go to therapy. You may be prescribed meds. And you may temporarily believe it's getting better. But then depression comes back. The tumor on your soul is growing and nothing can stop it.
Just bee ureself
>>7731702
Depression isn't real stupid nigger.
>>7731702
Shamanic Ayahuasca Ritual.
You'll die and be born again.
>>7731702
Exercise. Exercise. Exercise.
>inherently improves your life
>it's something you inherently get better at
>it makes you think about something other than your life
>it trains you to get back on the wagon when you fall off
>you can do it anywhere
Exercise is the wonder drug for depression. You can tell, because it's the #1 thing you don't feel like doing when you're depressed.
Do a push-up. 1 push-up is better than 0 push-ups.
>>7731702
Good news, all you have to do is stop beeing depressed and just bee yourself!
>>7731811
>Exercise is the wonder drug for depression.
For me exercising doesn't do shit. I often go to the gym and then I get even more depressed afterwards because I saw happy people there.
>it's the #1 thing you don't feel like doing when you're depressed.
My depression makes me nervous and aggressive. I could exercise all day but it isn't sufficient to distract me from my suicidal thoughts.
>Do a push-up. 1 push-up is better than 0 push-ups.
Push-ups are a meme exercise, just like barbell bench press. Do dumbbell bench press for real gains.
>>7731702
Think of it this way, there is always something in your life that makes you feel better then you currently are feeling, you have one life (as far as we know) and every second you are living is one more second you are currently experiencing. Life's happiness should come in the experiences. Good and bad (if you have a bad experience than you use that as your stepping stones to good ones) no matter what is happening in your head, you just have to remember, that it's your brain and if you don't want to be depressed then you just don't. Nobody knows who you are and nobody needs to, as long as you know that you are living, only you can decide whether you want to be happy or not. I mean a praying mantis is obligated to get their head cut off when reproducing, just remember you aren't obligated to do anything...including being depressed. Society made things depressing, be above societies views. >>7731702
>>7731702
It seems like "depression" describes a range of different conditions. Often a depressed person will achieve excellent results with the first SSRI they try, others switch through five or more without meaningful results. Treatment-resistant cases often respond well to some less mainstream drug and this is an ongoing research area, suggesting that the mechanistic bases of these cases are different, if slightly.
Something often associated with treatment resistant depression is a polymorphic MTHFR gene, which codes for an enzyme that produces a rate limiting cofactor for the later stages of your monoamine synthesis pathways. Exogenous l-methylfolate is an effective treatment for this.
There's a company called GeneSight that will amplify DNA from a cheek swab and tell you whether or not you have defective MTHFR alleles or any defective cytochromes (as well as other things of interest,) which can then inform your prescriber (or you) as to which meds you're more likely to find safe and effective
People tend to stupidly and frustratingly overemphasize the behavioral/situational aspects in something like this and a lot of people with intransigent depression issues have learned to tune this out. Depression is very much an involuntary mode of reacting to situations, but controlling your environment (i.e. stripping away toxic or abusive relationships and possibly finding a situation where you are part of something and feel needed by others) can help you feel less shitty. The rank theory of depression goes further and holds that it's a sort of adaptive response to loss of social status you can't easily recover from, so you back down and dont hurt yourself, which would imply environment has a central influence over the neurochemical basis itself.
>>7731754
Horrible idea if you are anywhere on the autism spectrum or have an anxiety disorder. Otherwise it's safe but lacking in evidence, like homeopathy. The 'wasca is definitely not for a first-timer though.
>>7731828
>For me exercising doesn't do shit. I often go to the gym and then I get even more depressed afterwards because I saw happy people there.
Go so hard that you can't expend the brain power to notice them. Or, don't go to the gym.
>>7731828
your an idiot. exercise has been proven in study after study to be the BEST treatment for depression and anxiety. what makes you different? do it more
>>7731702
My theory about "depression" is that it's a cocoon stage while your brain transforms itself to deal with a new situation. It's totally normal.
What ISN'T normal is the cultural idea of "You're wasting time! Get out there and seize the world!"
The only way out of depression is through it. And you can't get through it without first deciding to not care about what you're missing out on.
Depression is hard, because it's a challenge. Take on the challenge. Be alone with yourself and be okay with it.
>>7731846
Yeah for mild depression. It worked for me initially but eventually I got so depressed that when I went cycling which I used to be absolutely fanatical about after 10 miles I became so distraught I couldn't even turn the pedals anymore.
>>7731832
Sertraline worked for me. Unfortunately my sex drive got permanently nerfed.
>>7731850
>What ISN'T normal is the cultural idea of "You're wasting time! Get out there and seize the world!"
I forgot to mention that this is basically the #1 axiom of the 4chan attitude. This is the worst place to be depressed. I shouldn't be here desu, I might relapse.
>>7731854
>about after 10 miles I became so distraught I couldn't even turn the pedals anymore.
That's a feature, not a bug. Exercise is bugtesting that brings out and deletes the unhealthy habits in your mind. You got better when that happened. Do it again.
>>7731846
>what makes you different?
Perhaps the fact that I have real severe depression and not some stupid normie meme "depression".
>do it more
Sometimes I spend like 6 hours in the gym. I still wake up every morning wanting to kill myself.
>>7731867
OP here.
my problem isn't depression, but rather that I want to be an artists (painter) and depression make me quit everytime.
I just want to keep doing my hobbies but depression keep making me quit.
fuck that shit
So much bullshit speculation and "intuitive" nonsense in this thread.
>>7731832 is the only one who's got a clue so far.
That and exercise for treatment of MILD cases of depression.
>>7731702 OP, if it's serious, life-affecting, and prolonged (several months long), you should talk to your doctor and get properly diagnosed before you try to self-remedy. It's likely to be a variety of factors at play here. Seek professional help; not from these idiots here.
>>7731867
>Sometimes I spend like 6 hours in the gym. I still wake up every morning wanting to kill myself.
I suspect that you're very fit, and so you can get away with doing that without really pushing yourself. The exercise isn't the main part of the cure, it's the measurable self-improvement that is the cure.
Either go harder at the gym, or find something that you're bad at and get better at that in a measurable way.
>>7731872
>depression isnt the problem
>the problem is i cant do the thing i want because of depression
depression has apparently fucked up your higher reasoning abilities as well.
>>7731886
>depression has apparently fucked up your higher reasoning abilities as well.
It's not "as well". Depression IS faulty higher reasoning. The striking thing about when a depressive opens up is that what they say almost always makes no objective sense.
>>7731886
you seem to confuse feeling down with depression bro.
>>7731702
Anyone else think it's kind of annoying that your body forces you to take care of it with ye olde carrot and stick (emotions)
I do.
>>7731867
>6 hours in the gym
Get a fucking job. At least, then you would have a reason to kill yourself.
>>7731702
Get a real job (physical, preferably in the sun)
Eat real food, made by you or someone you personally know
Join a le church
Stop wanking to porn, have sex with real girls
And finally, get some actual friends
>>7731702
Stop living a deplorable, wretched life
This is the only effective treatment for depression. You can thank me later.
By realizing that depression is just a meme in your brain and consciousness doesn't exist, your feelings of sadness are just imagined.
>>7732262
Consciousness is real. The mind is an illusion.
>>7732262
If the imagination of imagining something is just an imagination itself maybe he merely imagined that he was imagining.
>>7732262
id love to see someone sneak up on him when he's giving a lecture and smash his fucking hand with a hammer.
maybe he'll believe in qualia then.
