Mfw when our prof said we can't use our calculators in the subject(eng'g statics)
>>7713801
So? Most of the applications are analytical derivations from spatial DE models. There's no need for calculations.
>The sum of forces at each point is 0.
>The sum of angular momenta at each point is 0.
>Solve the system of equations with Gauß.
Wow such difficult calculations...
I still don't get why there are semester long classes about about something that can be easily learned in a single day.
>>7713803
To develop creative problem solving and logic skills. There's also situations that are indeterminate etc. which require more creative methods to solve.
So it helps you to develop modelling skills on physical problems with baby math so you don't suck at modelling more complex physical phenomena later. It's also why circuits have an entire first year module at some universities. And why ChemEs have mass and energy balances classes.
>>7713802
You have to understand that engineers don't think math can be done without calculators.
I remember I was taking complex calculus at a university where engineers only needed one, or two more math classes for a math minor, so they normally would take complex. The professor prompted the class with "And what's sine of 1/2?", and literally all of the engineers reached for their calculators. It was really pretty shocking. They could do basically nothing analytically.
I'm not one to try to put down engineers normally, but that class was an eye-opener on how people are at math when they claim to be so good at it.
>>7713832
Correction, he asked for sine of pi over 2, not sine of 1/2.
>>7713832
>You have to understand that engineers don't think math can be done without calculators.
I am an engineer and no one in my class thought that.
Our first year statics we were encouraged to develop the model and do a degrees of freedom analysis first before doing any calculations or manipulation.
>They could do basically nothing analytically.
Analytical calculations is still calculations even if it's not numerical you fucking idiot. Worse still thinking that doing numerical calculations is important at all is for STEM fan boy retards.
>>7713845
>>7713841
I'm sure you learned the original definition for things like derivatives, and integrals before you went ahead and forgot them as soon as you learned what things like the power, quotient, and chain rules were too.
And why would I pretend to be in the same class of people that don't even know what the unit circle is, anon? Let's not be as stupid as en engineer here.
>>7713849
The only difference between kids like you and the kids in your C anal class is that you know nothing about engineering while they finished half your degree as peripheral courses to their own. I suggest you shutup and keep your major politics locked up in your autistic little department where no one can break the delusions you garnered to help you sleep at night.
>>7713854
>Half of my degree is all I would need to do your entire degree
Did you need your calculator to figure that out?
>>7713849
>MEMORIZING EPSILON-DELTA PROOFS IS IMPORTANT TOO GUYZ?
>AM I SMART YET GUYS?
>GUYZ?
>I'M IMPORTANT TOO ;_;
>>7713860
>If I study biology, I'm just as a good as a surgeon
Did you use group theory to arrive at that conclusion?
>>7713860
I drew you a Venn diagram since I doubt you are smart enough to realize where you stand yet.
As the B implies, undergrad level obviously.
>>7713870
>This is what a massively inflated sense of intelligence looks like
>>7713870
Not that guy, but I'm curious where math and engineering coincide where physics doesn't.
>>7713890
Control theory.
>>7713892
I don't think you'll find many math majors that even do that during undergrad.
>Engineer majors use technology to make sure they are correct
>Math majors just want to show how smarter they are than every one else because they memorized the unit circle
Sounds about right.
>>7714239
Memorizing worthless crap you don't need is not smart. It's autism of the ugliest kind.
>>7714239
More like
>Engineering majors don't know why the things they do work, but they know how to type them into a calculator, and in the real world, they'll probably never actually have to think, right?
>Math majors actually know why they do what they do, which allows them to do it faster and understand what's wrong if they get incorrect answers.
>>7714405
This. Asians in particular love doing this.
>>7714424
But that's extremely superficial and naive. Engineers take more numerical analysis and computational classes than math majors. If a computer simulation doesn't converge and engineer is more likely to know why than a math major. Even mathematical physicists consult engineering departments on computational issues unless you attend one of those shitty universities.
>>7714424
memorizing the unit circle != understanding what it represents
funny because I do believe that engineers have the broadest understanding of how things work. It's the inch deep and mile wide vs. mile deep inch wide education.
>>7714424
Nope, math is piss easy. Did you know that most (male) math majors sleep 9 hours a day and have girlfriends?
https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-study-math-at-Caltech
If math is so easy why do engineers suck at it
>>7714546
autism?
>>7714546
They're to busy sucking dick
>>7713801
Why would u want to? When the time comes to build a structure 4 use, u have to make sure it's correctly designed;what if ur calculator is wrong?
>>7713801
Don't worry OP, you won't be needing that shit in the real world once you start pushing papers and letting the dosh flow
>>7714546
it's pretty horrifying how fucking terrible the average engineer is at math, I attribute this to spending extensive time in bullshittery positions and administrative work. at least they have the solace of job stability and making good money.
I interned in an analysis role back in school and they had to fire or transfer people because they couldn't do math beyond the power rule or solve ODE/PDE's analytically or using numerical methods to do their job. don't even get me started on computer programming ability.
this is what happens when you niggers 'work together' on homework on all the time, one fag learns how to do it and the others copy. but in the real world you work together and can look things up, so your C in calc II doesn't matter :^)
>>7714546
Because the ones you see in class have a ton more difficult classes to worry about, it's your core classes, not theirs, see >>7713870 that's actually very accurate in terms of coursework. They are probably better than you at intuitively grasping the material, they just spend 10% the time studying as you do.
>>7714856
is that a framed twitter post in the bottom left?
