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How to determine such slopes that are sufficient to assume that a sequence converges, and possibly use such slopes to determine the limit?

Here's n/((n#)^(1/n))
Can someone please guide me how to determine the limit?
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By the way, a similar sequence with the factorial in place of the primorial will yield e.
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Can the slope be used to determine whether a sequence very likely converges to zero or a positive value?
Does it look like n/((n#)^(1/n)) > 0 for all n?
What does theory on growth of primes say about whether or not (n#)^(1/n) grows quickly enough to make n/((n#)^(1/n)) null?
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>>7693236
ln(n#)~n
n#~e^n
n#^/(1/n)~e
n/e∞

ln(p_n#)~nln(n)
p_n#~ne^n
p_n#^/(1/n)~e(n)^1/n
n^(1-1/n)/e∞
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Isn't this really interesting, /sci/?
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>>7693329
What?
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>>7693325
Shouldn't this be fairly simplistic for you to answer, /sci/?
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>>7693400

[math]\ln{(x\#)}= \sum_{p\leq{x}}^{ }{\ln{p}}[/math]
Prime number theorem states [math]\sum_{p\leq{x}}^{ }{\ln{p}}\sim{x}[/math] and [math]p_n\sim{n\ln{n}}[/math]
so, substituting into that first equation, [math]\ln{(p_n\#)}\sim{p_n}\sim{n\ln{n}}[/math]
[math]p_n\#\sim{n^n}[/math]
so we end up with
[math]\frac{n}{n^{n/n}}[/math]
Take note that [math]p_n\#>n[/math]
Let [math]\epsilon[/math]<0
Therefore we have:
[math]\frac{n}{n-\epsilon}\simeq{0}[/math]

>>7693329
You had the right idea, you just messed up through your work, though.
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>>7693565

Huh? Why didn't those 2 LaTeX expressions not work? They worked in the TeX preview...
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>>7693596
Can someone please make them work?
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>>7693596
There's something wrong with the way 4chan parses the tex code, no one really knows what it is but putting white space everywhere seems to work.

>inb4 this doesn't work

[math] \ln{ ( p_n \#) } \sim{ p_n } \sim{n \ln{ n }} [/math]

[math] \frac{ n }{ n - \epsilon} \simeq{ 0 } [/math]
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>>7693565
So does n/((n#)^(1/n)) converge to 0 or some positive value?
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>>7694277
Alright so the sequence in the OP would be n/(e^(n*ln(n)))^(1/n).
This is a constant sequence, 1, which isn't the limit as seen from the picture.
Did I understand something wrong or is it just the approximate nature of these results?
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Isn't it peculiar how the ratio between n and nth root of nth primorial converges? Isn't this kind of convergence just really nice?
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Really? Don't you like this sort of convergence, /sci/? Why isn't anyone expressing their affection towards such an interesting sequence?
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>>7695330
>>7695397
not really, no.
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>>7695426
What kind of sequences do you like?
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>>7695428
any sequence that illustrates the ideas I'm currently studying, serving as an example to aid in learning the theorems?
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>>7693236
How to evaluate whether this is null or not?
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>>7695433
gay
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>>7696386
Is there no way to evaluate this?
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>>7693236
Careful, you can't say slopes anymore. The proper term is "Asian Americans."
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>>7697039
Thanks for bumping, it'd be really nice if someone knew how to evaluate whether or not the sequence is null or not.
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Here's the values of the sequence at some 10^n:
n=10^1: 1.0445
n=10^2: 0.63573
n=10^3: 0.40472
n=10^4: 0.29179
n=10^5: 0.21880

Is this any indicator of being not null? 10^6 takes Maple too long to compute.
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Wtf is a primorial? Is it some new hipster function?
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Can convergence to 0 happen arbitrarily slowly so that the graph can appear indistinguishable from a non-null one when inspected at a "small" less than infinitely large interval?
Is it ever feasible to make statements about convergence based on the properties of the graph at finite intervals?
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Is the sequence really that untouchable, /sci/?
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>>7697336
[math]x\# = e^{\theta(x)}[/math], [math]\theta(x)[/math] being the first Chebyshev prime counting function.
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Is it very probably null?
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>>7693236
Stop bumping dude. It probably converges because the prime density converges as well.
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>>7699461
*to a positive value
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>>7699463
>to a positive value
Alright, that's great. Then doesn't the growth of the denominator have to converge to a constant? It can't keep curving more and more violently if the ratio converges to a positive value, right?
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>>7699706
Does (n#)^(1/n) really asymptotically approach a line? If not, is it even possible for n/(n#)^(1/n) to not be null?
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>>7693236
For large numbers:

ln(x#)=x
x#=e^x
(x#)^1/x = e


x/[(x#)^1/x] = x/e --> doesn't converge
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it diverges, OP you are a retard if you can't even plot a function properly
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>>7700885
>>7701007
No, you are wrong. Your statement is absurd. n can't grow faster than (n#)^(1/n), please check why.
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>>7699706
>>7700843
Nevermind, it actually converges not to a constant density but a density save for log(x). Yes it converges to 0.
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