I've heard that 85% of succeeding in getting a job and working in STEM is due to social skills, which is quite little compared to other fields. Is this true? Is being able to get along with people more important than being able to solve problems?
So there is no luck in it? Or are you considering luck to be inside social skills as a karma thing?
>>7683144
this is pretty accurate, i was a top stem student who got nowhere in the field because of autism
>>7683144
>shockingly
found the butthurt NEET nerd permavirgin
>>7683144
Very true. I'm an aerospace engineer, and only one or two of my coworkers seem autistic
IQ explains way more than 15% of the difference in income
Also
>no sauce
>no information about how this was measured
>no definition of terms
Did a business major make this crap?
>>7683144
This applies to any field, not just STEM. If you can't get along with your co-workers, you aren't doing much to foster teamwork, which is pretty important when working on a project alongside other people. If you're going to be an asshole, you better be 100% correct every time you open your mouth, or you'll be the first one cut loose.
>>7683212
>If you're going to be an asshole, you better be 100% correct every time you open your mouth
You also better be more productive than the entire rest of your team.
One of the biggest adjustments for me when I went from student to engineer was going from an environment of competition to an environment of collaboration.
looking good helps too.
>>7683217
Or at least the most productive. People need an incentive to place value in what you say, so if you're ridiculing them for their inferior intellect, you need to suit words to deeds and outperform them all. That appeals to the management.
>I don't care how much of a shit he is, he's right. He's the most productive member of the department, and his work is impeccable. Quit pissing him off before I replace YOU.
It's rare, but it happens.
>>7683212
being an asshole or fighting with coworkers is OBVIOUSLY going to get you fired, that wasn't really the question here
its about those of us who lack socialisation skills, have social anxiety, don't talk much, introverts, generally awkward spaghetti-spilling people who make up like 70% of 4chan's population
>>7683144
An interview generally doesn't ask much technical knowhow from you, they focus on personality.
Welcome to reality. Of course managing an autist isn't very fun even if he is a fucking math wizard so this is not without reason.
>>7683231
no, if you're the most intelligent, skilled, and productive person, if you're an asshole you still won't go anywhere, you might avoid being fired, but if you're all 3 of those things, and you keep the work environment positive, and encourage your peers rather than put them down, you'll get promoted.
>>7683144
>social skills
Communication in this context is having people understand what the fuck you are saying/doing when writing papers, talking to them, and presenting your ideas in an understandable well ordered manner.
>Now you understand why your professors can't explain for shit
It's true, research internships are given to whoever brown noses the most. This is what happens when normies are allowed into stem.
>>7683144
Nope. No one cares if you get the job done in the best way possible.
>>7683144
>Send out my CV with perfect GPA, 2 internships and research publications on it to hundreds of companies; zero responses.
>Attend a departmental social with industry people and academics attending; get 3 high job offers in one night.
Yes, social skills are important. Even my internships I got my first one through my network. Second one was a cold application to a research lab and I was initially rejected for it and basically very lucky to get it.
>>7683144
if you want to be something other than a cubicle shitter, then yeah, social skills are super important.
>>7683144
Yes, it's about social cohesion.
They don't want some guy with pure autism making things uncomfortable and weird for everyone else.
>>7683320
This. It's also why being attractive is important. No one likes unattractive people in the office.
>>7683328
Attractiveness doesn't matter as much, if the general level of attractiveness is low. Ugly, friendly people do good work, too.
>>7683203
>IQ explains way more than 15% of the difference in income
What's your point?
>>7683334
I don't just mean physical attraction by "attraction" as you are well aware gregariousness makes a person more attractive, however, physically attractive people can compensate social autism to some extent because of their appearance alone.
>>7683203
High IQ individuals tend to have better social skills anyway I don't see your point...
...oh wait, you thought internet and mensa tests were reliable and those autistic retards who barely manage to break into STEM are actually intelligent.
Basically, no, they are not intelligent, they are just good at grinding and exam babbying.
>>7683351
>..appearance alone
but not for long
